tfw EMH essentially comined Secret Empire and Secret Invasion

>>94982385
Yes.

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EMH did everything better. Remember that one time they had Doctor Doom and he was the best Doctor Doom ever?

>>94982385
Based Kyle & Yost

>>94982385
Holy shit you're right.

>>94982385
>imposter Cap wore the Ultimate outfit
That show was too good for this cruel world.

>>94982385
This getting canceled and Ultimatum is why i hate Loeb the most out of anyone working at Marvel aside from Ike

>>94982385
Hell, Marvel did it better with that one "What If" where Cap gave the "I say America is nothing!" speech.

>>94982529
Kyle wasn't involved with EMH. It was Fine and Yost.

>>94982522
Holy fuuuck!!! Well done mf

>>94982385
EMH took many things and made them better than the comics. It was only when Kyle and Yost were replaced with Man of Action that the show took a nose dive

Fuck...we were going to get the best Ragnarok too

>>94982522
I love this scene cause all he wanted was a DNA sample of the skrulls and prove they had infultrated everything (he had that before I assume). Once he had that he just told everyone to fuck off and then a few episodes later solves all of Secret Invasion for them.

>Doing the peon work is beneath me

>>94982385
Too bad the consequences didn't last long :(

>>94982385
I never watched this show. Is it really good?

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>>94982542
Cap with no wings on his head should be a huge red flag that he's an evil imposter.

>>94982752
It would not be hyperbole to see it is the single best thing created in the whole of human history.

>>94982752
Fantastic! (at least until Man of Action took over in the middle of season 2)

>>94982749
Hulk never really rejoined the team, so that's at least one consequence

>>94982752
better than any of the Spider-Man cartoons tbqh. The only action cartoons that can compare are Gargoyals and maybe BTAS

>>94982752
Incredible season 1, decent/good season 2... this season was ruined by Loeb and Man of Action, but have some great moments too.

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I was really hoping to see Wonder Man get his problem resolved and join the team as well as Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch eventually joining the team. Damn the Disney purchase!

>/co/ circle jerks this mediocre cartoon too

>>94982901
Trying to make WATXM fit in with EMH would be a mistake, if only because Quicksilver was straight up evil and Wanda became the new queen of Genosha

Neither of them could join the Avengers after that

Best theme song ever. Too bad they dubbed Fury plugging the movies over it in season 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJmfLvzK0Q

>>94982943
Yost already said that they are in the same continuity. As is Hulk Vs. and Thor: Tales of Asgard.

>>94982957
>Too bad they dubbed Fury plugging the movies over it in season 2.
I think it was a combination of the Disney purchase going into effect and the singer of the song getting arrested for rape.

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>this could have been Marvels JLU, already drawing refference to lesser know properties like DnA's GOTG
>had Avengers the movie not taken off, this would have finished with the first real Infinite Gauntlet adaptation
ITS NOT FAIR
YOU WHERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE MARVEL ANIMATION
GODDAMN IT

>>94982943
>redemption stories don't exist

come on, they are adapting the comics in which both started out villains

>>94982722
> So now what, you gonna fight them with me?
> That would be beneath me. Such chores are what people like you are for.

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Remember when the Guardians weren't a goddamn joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKLZCansSY

>>94982522

WITNESSED

Also love that Hawkeye still manages to shoot the arrow perfectly at Doom even while being blown away by a fireball.

>>94982984
>>94983071
Quicksilver literally helped his father start a war with humanity that would have led to Sentinels ruling the world.
Wanda hated Pietro after that. Why would she ever join the Avengers alongside him?

In the comics they had nowhere else to go after leaving the Brotherhood.

>>94983147
isn't it
>oh, I get it, you need my tech to make it work
or something like that. Love how arrogant he is and Doom just doesn't give a fuck

>>94983241
That's included, followed by "Doom needs no-one."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7YVK8bx8s

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>>94983191

>>94983186
>Rocket with a bad cockney accent
Just like in my head

>>94982522
Fun fact: this version of him was voiced by Dr. Cortex

>>94983272
Only version of Carol I've ever liked.

>>94983186
The Starlord officer's outfit is still my favourite.

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>>94983272
>female Carol Danvers
I feel like throwing something, I miss her so much.

>>94983071
But even when they were villains it was the "we are serving you out of obligation for saving our lives" kind, not the actually evil kind.

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>>94983282
He's supposed to have one too.

Wish that moment between Madame Hydra and Captain America went somewhere. The one where he asks what gave her her scars and she responds that what happened made her hate people like Cap.

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>>94983314
how about throwing a few Kree?

>>94983289

Best Carol and Janet.

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>>94983435
yeah

>>94983283

WOAH

>>94982522
This is why i come here

>>94982943
This was the period where Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were considered mostly "Magneto's children" by Marvel, so they wound up as bit players in an X-Men series instead of an Avengers series.

If Joss Whedon wasn't old and a '70s nostalgic they probably would be mostly minor X-characters to this day.

>>94983186
He's the Star-Lord! Respect him!

>>94983051
>had Avengers the movie not taken off, this would have finished with the first real Infinite Gauntlet adaptation
The Avengers movie is the only reason this show got put into production. At least we got something as good as the first season, anon.

>>94982522
FUCKING CHECKED

>>94983314
I honestly thought this version of Carol was just as dull as she always was in the comics.

EMH always made me care about characters I didn't care about before, but they just couldn't get me interested in Carol.

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>>94983051
I long for what couldve been

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>>94984690

>>94982752
Best Marvel cartoon with Spectacular Spiderman.

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>>94984718
Why was this Jan so perfect?

>>94984718
I would have loved to see Damien and Satana. Such underused characters

>>94984846
>Put a literal semen demon that eats people's butterflies in a children's cartoon

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>>94984995
DC made Constantine work

>>94985230
>Wasn't allowed to smoke

>>94982814
God damn now that's some mother fucking praise.

>>94983435
>>94983467
That episode is one of my favorites in the entire series, seeing the Hydra/Cap interactions were pretty great but all of the other characters from organizations had enough screen time before and during the episode to make their actions feel genuine.

>>94985267
>wha wha, not allowed to smoke
I get it, he can't get lung cancer but they wouldn't do that story anyway. At least he stole a grimore for the only purpose of fucking 3 succubi. That's John enough for me.

>>94983186
This episode made me buy the first trade.

>have the best Avengers cartoon and quite possibly the best Marvel cartoon
>can it in favor of a show that makes United We Stand look better by comparison
Why does Loeb hate us so much?

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>>94982522

Okay, you deserve it.

>>94983186
God, EMH's is like looking through the looking glass now.

Not that surprising. Justice League had a plot that was basically Injustice, except better written.

>>94986111
Because dead son

>>94982522
Well done, sir.

>>94982814
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Those were both major cartoons of my childhood. So tell me this: How does it stack up to those series WITH nostalgia goggles on?

>>94983147
How does Doom accomplish any scientific feat when he seems to view handling the minor steps as beneath him?

>>94982522
checked, good job...

>>94983314
As opposed to male Carol Danvers?

>>94983447
Why do I like female costumes with bare hips so much?

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>>94987044
Legs are a glorious thing and should only have stockings on them

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>>94987021
Yes.

>>94987127
Yeah, that seems to sound about right.

>>94982522
Checked. Holy shit.

>>94982666
>666
Surtur clearly agrees.

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>>94983186
Damn do I miss the badass and stoical Star-Lord.

>>94982814
I'd argue the Justice League and Unlimited should be in there as well.

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>>94982752
Damn good until it got canned partway through the second season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ-cz-3zqo

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>>94987610
Fuck me, it's been too long since I've seen that...
Definitely one of Marvels best animated works.

>>94983186
As much as I like the Guardians film I'm glad this show was my first introduction to them.

>>94987610
One of the best cape openings.

>Best Thor
>Best Hulk
>Best Hawkeye
>Best Fucking Captain
>Best Wasp
>Best Hank
>Best Doom
>Best Ultron

Fuck man is there any character that EMH didn't get right? Even fucking Graviton and Red Hulk were cool as shit

>>94988199
Nick Fury was alright, but would have been much better if they kept him white. Spider-Man would have been good if they didn't dub over Josh Keaton's already recorded lines with Drake Bell.

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>>94983289
Got ported to the comics for ANAD. Was the best time for Carol since Busiek.

>>94987817

Drax is a shit member of GotG. He's a great character but he and Gamora are boring. EMH using Warlock and Quasar was a better call.

>>94987391
I mean Peter Quill did quip in the DNA era it was just usually more sardonic.

>>94988454
That's how he should be. Not goofy OOGA CHAKA MUH WALKMAN!

>>94988549
The worst part is that I actually don't mind the Chris Pratt version of the character. It's just that the translated version in the comics replacing the best version is infuriating and it's infecting every medium he show up in.

>>94988454
Yeah, but that fit the character. The only real qualm I have with DnA's GOTG is turning Groot into a joke. I much preferred how Giffen wrote him in the Annihilation Star-Lord title and Howling Commandos. Other than that, DnA are great and I'm glad Yost and FIne brought them in to write that episode of EMH.

>>94982522
No webm?

>>94988334
Did his lines ever get leaked? Would nice to edit them back in.

>>94988619
Annihilation Guardians were the best incarnation of the team and I'm mad that kind of dynamic was replaced with the most generic characters imaginable like Phyla and Adam

>>94988655
Sadly no. And it's infuriating.

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>>94988708
Didn't JK Simmons also dub over Daran Norris as JJJ for that episode? I mean, that's not something I mind nearly as much. JK is a perfect JJJ. But it would have been nice to see Norris reprise the role from Spectacular. He did do a fantastic job.

>>94982522
Doom does not fail...

>>94982522

I have to acknowledge this post

>>94982901
>Wonder Man
Crap! I completley forgot about that plot point.

>>94982522
Based doom

>>94982522
Good show my dear boy

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>>94983186
>>94987391
>being voiced by Master Chief

muh dick

>>94988199
As much as I like the MCU, I 100% agree with this. Evans Cap is the only movie version that's even CLOSE to the perfect version of the character but EMH still takes it by far.

>>94990185
This.

>MCU Cap
>Me: "He's a stand up guy, I really respect him."

>EMH Cap
>Me: "I WILL FOLLOW YOU TO HELL AND BACK"

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>>94982522
Checked

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>>94982522
DOOM DUBS? FUCK YEAH!

>>94982752
Its so fucking good you can't believe it exists.

>>94988199
Any else agree that while EMH Ross was great, JLU Shaggy Man was the best Red Hulk? Like goddamn just port his dialogue over 1:1

>>94991517
Tatasciore did the Red Hulk's voice in EMH though.

>>94988199
Black panther was eh

>>94991780
I thought he was pretty good.

>>94982752
Nah, it's just everything else was so bad it's good by comparison.

>>94982522
Doom does it again

>>94987391
To be fair Star Lord was pretty MCU until he killed all those people and became guilt ridden

>>94988199
Hawkeye was just the coolest here. It was really kind of guy you could believe would drop Avengers to lead Thunderbolts and look good while doing it.

What a waste of Renner, he ever stood out only in Civil War when he was allowed to be the only quippy character and have ACTUAL TRICK ARROWS and not blend in like he did in the Quipvengers.

>>94991780
I thaught he was cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKlfg6b-KiU

>>94993571
Renner should wear the purple mask and be more of a wiseass.

>>94990157
Voice was perfect.

>>94983314
>>94983272
Best carol the only Carol I like

I hope this is how they portray her in the movies and not the dyke tryhard leader one in the comics

>>94990575
EMH Cap was super inspirational. Truly the embodiment of the American spirit.

>>94993571
>No Thunderbolts episode.
Worst timeline.

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>>94994459
>EMH Carol
>not a dyke
Anon, I...

>>94982522
>see gif
>immediately check post number even before the replies show up
Ayy

>>94982522
Wow. I'm blown away. Well done.

>>94988199
I liked Ultron in EMH but he's not best. Ultron is supposed to have the weirdest father complex and that part was very under developed. He ended up just being a basic skynet villain. He was very threatening though. and the way he treated Vision was spot on

>>94983186
Man, I remember liking this series but I have the feeling watching it again now would just be better. Shame Netflix dropped it.

>>94988685
>not liking Phyla
shit taste senpai

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>>94988199
>coolest
Best Amora. Holy shit her voice makes me diamonds every time!

>>94982522
Truly the best

>>94993648
And then they barely let him do anything cool again

>>94995796
No one likes Phyla, except for that one guy.

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The second season was terrible.

>>94995932
I'm not Judge and I like Phyla.
I like Carol more though

>>94995932
>>94996103
I am also not Judge and I like Phyla.
I also like Carol more

>>94982522

Nice

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>>94982385
Best costume
Best Characterization

She's an actual girl here

>>94995932
Phyla is just atrocious shit.

Worse and dullest quasar ever

What EMH had were those great team fight scenes with a panning camera kinda like a protoMCU where you feel the team is fighting in a single large location instead of how JL/JLU did where when the team fights it seems they had individual fights because of all the cuts.

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>>94996318
Plus she had a crush on Jan, so she also had better taste in bug-women.

>>94996062
not terrible, it started out great but then get a bit disappointing but that's only in comparison. Still at it's worse it's one of the better action cartoons

>>94982522
checkedd

>>94996062
I'm still fucking triggered that Tony didn't become dumb, narcissistic rich boy instead of getting his armor downgraded.

I mean, the reason he got the armor in the first place was because he was a rich guy with the intelligence to boot. I wouldn't be so upset if this was some rookie writer, but shit or not, this was approved by someone that was in the comics industry for YEARS. How the fuck do you not know how Iron Man works??

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>94988199
> Best Zemo.

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>>94982522
Well done anon, good showing

>>94995932

I'm not Judge, and he seduced me to the Phyla side.

>>94983186
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKLZCansSY
>HOW CAN WE UNDERSTAND YOU NOW?
>We're speaking mind to mind.
>I AM GROOT

stupid as fuck

>>94996862
Autism.

>>94997676
he was introducing himself

>>94982984
No, he said he intended to initially, but he didn't worry about that afterwards and said it's up to the viewers.

>>94988747
Yup. I'm also mad at how the modern Marvel cartoons wasted JK Simmons so much. He was only ever behind a TV screen and never got to be a character.

>>94982522
>Doom headbutts T'Challa whose wearing his vibranium-mesh suit
Shouldn't the BP suit just absorb the impact?

>>94984735
Because she wasn't a bitch like her 616 comics version. The only good Janets were EMH and Marvel Adventures. They kicked ass, but were also nice people.

>Dat Cap as the Human Torch
LOL, I like that joke there.

>>94987127
Wait a second is this marvel ultimate alliance?

>>94998353
Yeah but Doom was wearing his plot armour

>>94983051
I was supposed to do what with how many resources you kangaroo bint slut?

Shout-out Sophie.

>>94996062
That second half of that season and specifically that episode were made by Jeph Loeb.

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>>94982385
And lets not forget that E.M.H hosted the superior version of Ultron.
>The only good version in media soo far.

>>94998353
in the comics his suit generally is shown to absorb fast moving low mass objects but not do as well against high mass slow moving objects, bullets v punshes
captcha: calle Xola
we have a hydra problem here, Avengers Assemble!

>>94996378
That Graviton fight was the shit.

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>>94982522

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>>95000957
Wrong. They turned him into a generic "all humans are evil cause they did one bad thing" Robot. Comics version is, "I need to prove to daddy that I'm good enough for him...So I will kill all life."

>>95003032
Hank Pym here. Let's go save The Avengers

>>94995710
See that's what I liked about this version of Ultron. He acts like he's this typical robot bad guy, but he made himself a son, tried to make Janet his robot girlfriend, & was replacing the avengers with robots out of spite. I feel like had the series gone on further, we'd have really started to see Ultron lose it.

>>95003409
See >>95003717

>>94982522
Witnessed

>>94982385
Is the whole series available on blu-ray? I keep seeing 4 episode DVD packs at Walmart. Even Spectacular Spider-man managed to get to blu-ray.

>>94982522
U N B E L I E V A B L E

>>95003409
That's literally what Ultron is though.

>>94982522
Checked.

>>94982752
Fucking amazing, watch it with 90s X-Men, they feel like they could take place in the same universe

>>94982385
This show really is the last relic of 'old Marvel'. Playing everything straight, no tongue in cheek 'lol this is so crazy guys', no trying to ground it in reality, the characters are in their costumes most of the time. Action, adventure. Not shipping and memey quips.

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>>95006649
There was a little tongue in cheek, like having Jan get clocked in a fight and have this scene afterwards to be cheeky

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>>94982522
Checked

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>>94982385
>the absolute state of modern Marvel tv shows
>this was supposed to be Josh Keaton's last hurrah as Spider-man and Loeb had Drake Bell rerecord all his lines
>the literal moment Loeb took over, the show immediately turned to shit with episodes like Powerless and multiple episodes where the premise is fake Avengers when we just finished the Secret Invasion storyline
Seriously though, where are blu-rays, Marvel.

>>94982522
Majestic. Only someone as wise and as powerful as our great leader would be able to get dubs with such precision

>>95006979
That scene alone makes me orgasm

>>94982385
That scene was handled 100x better than Nick Spencer's version in SE 10.

>>95007058
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0079ILI6G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_PU2PzbBJ7K2X3
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H57T5FC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_mV2Pzb81KBBS0

>The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill
>The Avengers getting spread across the Nine Realms
>Reed giving zero fucks about Tony making an armor out of Uru
>best Carol ever
>"Hi everyone, I'm Spider-Man, and this is my trusty sidekick Wolverine."
>the Gamma World episodes

I remember coming home one night and my roommate had this on and I was like, Wtf? Is that Ultron? And then I saw he was building Jocasta and was like "Can we please go back to episode 1? I need to watch this." EMH was far too good for us.

>>94985230
Animated Constantine is shit

>>95010274
WRONG

>>95007058
>the the show was already in production before the Disney purchase
>tfw Disney aired the first season without interfering
>tfw Disney put Loeb in charge of Marvel Animation for season 2
>tfw Loeb got rid of Fine and Yost and brought in Man of Action
>tfw it was really to start a new show that would coincide more with the movies and be dumbed down like Ultimate Spider-Man
>tfw they dubbed Drake Bell over Josh Keaton's already recorded two episodes and even paid the other actors to record it with him because the rapport was so different
>tfw they said Avengers Assemble was a sequel series to EMH and it was all in the same continuity
>tfw that was not remotely true

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>>94983051
is that rouge as ms Marvel

>>94982522

Jesus.

>>95012019
Yes, but these images weren't season 3 plans. Just fun artwork Perkins decided to draw.

>>94982522

This is why I always wanted Doom in the MCU, I just want to see him owning everyone and making fools of them. A great actor would be needed to pull it off and it goes against MCU's habit of making everyone a quipping jobber.

Just imagine a preview for an Avengers movie and the trailer is just Doom kicking each and every one of their asses like it's nothing.

But sadly, everything's fucked and at least EHM did the Marvel universe justice.

>>94983186

I just remember thinking "holy fuck they did the GotG too? With those designs? Someone's actually reading comics!"

>>95013211
Seeing that after what they've been turned into just makes me sad now.

>>94996346
but avril existed

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>>94983467

>>94982522
beautiful

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I liked how the EMH Comics also showed adventures that didn't happen on the show and resolved some plotpoints like Ravonna waking up only to steal King Solomon's frogs from Wakanda and Thor, Cap, and Tony fighting the Grey Gargoyle in the Norn Queen's kingdom.

>>95014760
EMH comics were great when they were original stories written by Yost and Fine. We even got a Micronauts issue. But then the comics turned into literal screenshots of the show with dialogue balloons holding the scripts of episodes we already saw. Thanks Disney.

>>95014987
>We even got a Micronauts issue

Which issue.

>>95014760
Did they ever explain why Kang was blue? Was he kree?

>>95015329
that was just the mask of his helmet

>>95015350
Then why was he blue in jail?

>>95015481
the paint was still wet when he put it on an in-joke about Dr Doom's origin

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>>95015081 #
Issue #7. But they called themselves the Microns.

>>95016028
Peter Parker and Herc also appeared in various issues. She Hulk was mentioned but didn't appear, and Magneto and the Maximoff twins showed up in one issue and it was hinted that they would later join the Avengers.

>>94982522
Checked

>>94982522
GLORY TO DOOM