>ITT-people /co/ blows out proportion but arent really that

Always thought it was funny that her last name is Sugar and she writes such a cutesy sweet show.

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>>94945064
>that weird moment when you fall for a reverse trap

>>94945288
Did you believe the memes that she was a young Jewish boy?

>>94945325
Do you know what a reverse trap is?

>>94945325
no. But she kind of looks like a dude I knew in HS so it's kind of freaking me out.

>>94945064
I love Funhaus

>>94945345
Yes, a girl who looks like a boy. Like Naoto from Persona, right?

>>94945064
Zuke wasn't exactly the source of everything wrong either.

Even with Lapidot, the other boarders portrayed them the same way.

>>94945365
Exactly.

And I love Rebecca, I really do, but she honestly does look like a young Michael Cera with that haircut. She even managed to pull off cosplaying as Luffy:

>>94945064
>Literally all the problems with the show besides townie filler originated from zuke
How could you say something so wrong, about a show that was flawed at the very concept, especially considering it was shit long before she ever came onboard, and continues to be shit after. The hatred of Zuke is completely unfounded, sure she's a faggot, but in no way worse than the rest of the staff. Stop shifting blame for your shit onto anyone but the person who created it. Rebecca ruins everything she touches.

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>>94945447
forgot pic

>>94945378
>Even with Lapidot, the other boarders portrayed them the same way.
Shes the one who took it to cancerous levels

>>94945447
>Rebecca ruins everything she touches.
She did fine with AT and Hotel Transylvania was completely untouched.

Everything is a hyperbole when she's only been professionally animating since 2010.

>>94945475
How is this SJW?

Aren't we always telling people to make their own shows if they want to see gays/blacks/women in shows, they should make their own?

>>94945447
>>94945475
>show is bad just because its got gay characters
This show has a lot of problems but the LGBT undertones arent one of them. Also even with all its problems i still love the show and am pissed its been effectively cancelled and reruns have been taken off in favor of more TTG cancer

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She literally did nothing wrong.

>>94945447
>>94945475
>>94945525
By this logic, Milestone is shit because they decided to wanted to have black characters in comics.

>>94945325
If you didn't know who she was, would you really think she was young boy?

>>94945064
>Literally all the problems with the show
All stem from the show existing.
Fuck Sugar, fuck Singing & Crying Universe, and fuck Bipolarity Time.

>>94945064
>Literally all the problems with the show besides townie filler originated from zuke. Sugars kinda spuneless and she couldnt reel her staff in until it reached a boiling point and fired zuke, and honestly sugar seems like a nice person.

Objectively false. If anything the majority of the problems with this show had nothing to do with the Zuke drama.

>hey, X is pretty cool
>I like X
>really? I like X too!
>fuck man, I LOVE X!
>X IS THE BEST EVER!
>holy shit, stop talking about X, faggots
>why are there 4 X threads up at once?
>Xfags are so fucking annoying, holy shit
>X thread? better start spamming in it, hopefully it will get 404ed
>go back to your containment thread, Xfags
>go back to your containment board, Xfags
>months later
>you know now that the dust has settled, X is pretty cool
Literally the nature of everything that ever touches 4chan. Becky Sucrose is rad though, I bet her in person and she's really cool.

>>94945325
>>94945562
maybe because im bi but i actually think shes really cute and am jealous ian gets to bone her

>>94945527
Who this?

>>94945586
*met her in person

>>94945571
>>94945576
Alright then, tell me why the show is bad without saying its because its gay or there crying in it
>>94945586
What was she like?

>>94945571
Ow, the edge.

>>94945064
Seth MacFarlane. for similar reasons to those OP posted.

>>94945064
social climbing twat who couldn't write relationships to save her skin

>>94945596
VivziePop. She made a webcomic called Zoophobia, that one werewolf video with the Kesha song, and is now working on a web series called Hazbin Hotel. /co/ hates her for reasons I can't quite fathom. I think it might have to with some overblown drama with another artist, but the details for that are really flimsy, or just plain not liking her work and deciding that makes her a horrible person.

But what do I know. I'm some faggot who shitposts on 4chan.

Zuke did nothing wrong

>>94945642
>social climbing twat
How so?
>couldn't write relationships to save her skin
Eh, I'd disagree with this.

>>94945490
>>94945513
this, even if its not the best, it's not like its forced because she's been pressure by consumers

>>94945605
She's really nice. I met her at MAGfest when Attack the Light and the episode On the Run were announced. I told her that her show helped me though a trying time in my life (was going through a bad breakup then) and she was very happy to hear that. She was quiet but really nice, so pretty much the same how she is in interviews. She's just an overall genuinely nice gal.

>>94945490
>She did fine with AT
This is the worst thing she did.
Reminder that she is at fault for
>Flame Princess
>Fionna and Cake
>Gotcha
>Jake the Dog
>I remember you/Simon and Marcy
She killed AT.
>>94945555
>Blacks are the same as gays
Kys
>>94945525
Putting a political message above good story telling is retarded. So unless they have another excuse for their inability to tell an engaging or even moderately serviceable story, this is a problem.
>its been effectively cancelled and reruns have been taken off in favor of more TTG cancer
It's not canceled and TTG is unironically not as bad as this garbage fire. TTG is mediocre and boring, but SU is painful to watch.
>>94945513
There is no "we" you might have said this, I disagree, leave the gay pairings to the fans to headcanon about in their sex chats.

>>94945765
>There is no "we" you might have said this, I disagree, leave the gay pairings to the fans to headcanon about in their sex chats.
So gay creators aren't allowed to have gay characters on their own show?
That's such ass backwards logic.

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>>94945064
That's a shitty picture, OP. Here's a better one.

>>94945765
>Fionna and Cake
That was Natasha Allegri you retard.

>>94945826
>So gay creators aren't allowed to have gay characters on their own show?
When like half of your characters are some sort of queer in a kids show, it starts to get ridiculous, yeah.

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>>94945826
>They aren't allowed
When did I say this? You can think something is stupid without thinking they should be forbidden from doing this. I don't think you should disagree with me but I'm not going to throw you in jail for it. I just won't agree with you or like what you said. These are opinions Anon, we're all just talking opinions.
>>94945855
All of "her" pictures are shitty, "she" looks like a horse got plastic surgery
>>94945857
[pic related]

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>>94945765
WE

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>>94945609

The pacing is off, the world building depends on mystery which is only ever upheld behind a wall of 'I don't need to tell you this until later despite the fact that it would be pertinent information for you to know' and people just not asking questions or reacting to phenomenon like normal people would, the fact that Steven's powers are at a point where they border on OP and could potentially negate any form of tension because he can now potentially rez anyone, the fact that many of the conflicts are resolved by deus ex machina with a random power or person or object conveniently coming in to save the characters at the last minute, the consequences that do occur out of character's stupid/selfish actions are either so insignificant that they could be ignored or significantly postponed/only addressed after hundreds of episodes. The fact that townies are focused on for the purpose of 'well we got to care about the earth somehow and understand why the gems want to protect the earth' despite the fact that the gems don't remotely care about these people or the earth at all except out of some selfish/delusional obligations.

>>94945765
I thought Fiona and Cake was Nat's fault.

>>94945892
>Garnet
>Pearl
>This is som how half
90% of the cast is straight.

>>94945922
>>94945947
Fionna and Cake was Nat's brainchild. She actually come up with the idea during a rule 63 thread on /co/.

Sugar did work on the episode but to say she's completely responsible for them is stupid.

>>94945947
>F&C is a fault
have you tried fapping to her?

>>94945922
How is it stupid though?
You seem to think that having gay characters is bad on principal.

I love Becky. She's so punk

>>94945765
>Blacks are the same as gays
Not what I said but thank you for proving you're retarded.

>>94945947
>>94945993
She only made the characters, who aren't bad, in fact Allegri's comics with them are good. I was referring to the episode Fionna and Cake, which was a dumpster fire, and am completely willing to admit Sugar did a better job in the later F&C episode Bad little boy.

>>94946048
You compared having gay characters in a comic to having black characters, which is radically fucking different.

>>94945475
I fucking hate these faggots. Think media always brainwashes people.

>>94945922
>All of "her" pictures are shitty, "she" looks like a horse got plastic surgery
She's currently engaged to her boyfriend of eight years, she must be doing something right.

>>94945765
>Fionna and Cake
>Gotcha
>Jake the Dog
>I remember you/Simon and Marcy
All good episodes. I don't like SU, but your hateboner for Sugar is unjustified. She's got talent.

>>94946069
>You compared having gay characters in a comic to having black characters, which is radically fucking different.
How so? Keep in mind, there were plenty of gay characters in Milestone.

>>94946073
Someone for everyone Anon, doesn't mean she doesn't look worse than a bear's dirty foot. Also, source?

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>>94946073
You mean this guy?

>>94946105
You can see an engagement ring during the SDCC 2017 footage. There's an interview with her where it's in plain sight.
>>94946106
Is it weird I find these two cute together?

>>94946069
>and am completely willing to admit Sugar did a better job in the later F&C episode Bad little boy.
Hell no, the first F+C is the only good one. Bad Little Boy was less like a parody of fanfiction and more like actual fanfiction.

>>94945765
>TTG is unironically not as bad as this garbage fire
Kill yourself

>>94945933
WUZ

>>94946161
KANGZ

>>94946106
What ever happened to that show Ian went solo for?

>>94945944
>The pacing is off, the world building depends on mystery which is only ever upheld behind a wall of 'I don't need to tell you this until later despite the fact that it would be pertinent information for you to know' and people just not asking questions or reacting to phenomenon like normal people would, the fact that Steven's powers are at a point where they border on OP and could potentially negate any form of tension because he can now potentially rez anyone, the fact that many of the conflicts are resolved by deus ex machina with a random power or person or object conveniently coming in to save the characters at the last minute, the consequences that do occur out of character's stupid/selfish actions are either so insignificant that they could be ignored or significantly postponed/only addressed after hundreds of episodes. The fact that townies are focused on for the purpose of 'well we got to care about the earth somehow and understand why the gems want to protect the earth' despite the fact that the gems don't remotely care about these people or the earth at all except out of some selfish/delusional obligations.
Holy shit, that actually was a good argument and didnt devolve into name calling. Good job anon

>>94946093
By what fucking standard are Gotcha or Jake the Dog good episodes?
I can understand Simon and Marcy/I remember you, people like the songs, even though the story they told was cliche boring garbage that never even needed to be known, and the entire plot connected to them was disappointing. But there is literally no redeeming factor in Jake the Dog or Gotcha.
>>94946128
Shit opinion, immediately discarded.
>>94946125
So, random speculation based on jewellery. got it.

>>94946183
He had to do a quick rewipe.

>>94946183
OK KO? It's still on, I think.

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>>94946161
Better and more likable than the actual crystal gems

>>94946213
Oh, that's his show? I guess I'll try it then. Looked not so hot but for him, I'll give ti a go.

>>94946197
>So, random speculation based on jewellery. got it.
You do realize it's called the "ring finger" for a fucking reason, right?

>>94946221
Yes but she can't go to space due to it having no streets.

>>94946231
You literally have no idea who, if anyone, she's engaged to.

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>>94946221
>special snowflake love interest that never really does anything a love interest does
>the traitor that had character development until she turned into the AYYY LMAO meme character
>the rape victim
>better

>>94946221
god damn that is some awful art

>>94946272
Anything's better than toaster nose.

>>94946269
>has been in a relationship with Ian Jones-Quartey for 8 years and counting
>they have helped each other with their animations since college
Really fires up the old neurons.

>>94946278
Eh, I've seen worse.

>>94946221
>>94946278
How tall is lapis?

>>94946323
Taller than Peridot, Steven, Amethyst and Connie, shorter than Garnet and Pearl.

>>94946323
She's not supposed to be the same size as Peridot.

>>94946125
>Is it weird I find these two cute together?
No, they are. But I just hope they don't have kids, it would be cruel and unnecessary.

>>94946238
SIlly man, as long as she can avoid the loo she'll be fine.
>>94946272
>special snowflake love interest that never really does anything a love interest does
She's far funnier and more likable than Steven, and is in no way a bigger snowflake than "THE ONLY HUMAN GEM HYBRID IN EXISTENCE"
>the traitor that had character development until she turned into the AYYY LMAO meme character
Ayyy LMAO MEME > The rest of the shit cast who are at the very least equally unfunny, and at least twice as unlikable and disappointing
>the rape victim
This is a bad thing? Her moody attitude is endearing, it's a good contrast to Peridot.
>>94946323
No fucking idea, that tends to happen when you hire a bunch of talentless hacks to make a cartoon.

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>>94946348
Peridot isn't supposed to be the same size as Peridot.

>>94945363
not /co/ related and I don't see them get much shit but I agree
Elyse is the funniest woman I've seen in any gaming/lets play YT thing

>>94946404
Peristairs.

>>94946348
If you look closely at the pic, she's actually a bit taller than Peridot.
The proportions just make her look smaller.

>>94945765
>>94946093
All of those episodes are good. You didn't list her worst episode, Bad Little Boy, which was boring fan pandering to the highest degree, but I guess that could be included under Fionna and Cake.

Jake the Dog was solid enough even if I agree that the whole Farmworld arc was kind of a waste of time, and Gotcha is a legitimately great episode where LSP was bearable and actually seemed to learn something about herself and other people, and Finn was really cool in it. Plus there was a real nifty adventure thrown in.

>>94946393
>that tends to happen when you hire a bunch of talentless hacks to make a cartoon.
The person who boarded the episode was an EEnE alumni though.

>>94946424
hehehehehehe

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>>94946272
>the rapist
FTFY

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>>94945345
All I know is that they're much better in 2d

>>94946272
>>94946472
SHE CONSENTED
WHEN JASPER GRABBED HER AND SAID "LET'S FUSE" SHE FUCKING DID IT. SHE WASN'T RAPED, SHE JUST CAME TO REGRET HER DECISION

>>94946197
Gotcha was sweet. The entire story was about LSP realising what a nice, standup guy Finn is, and it was funny to boot.

Jake the Dog was a great episode. Finn becoming corrupted by the Ice Crown and the whole Farmworld dimension going to shit juxtaposed with Jake and Prismo's banter in the jacuzzi, what's not to like?

>Shit opinion, immediately discarded.
Bad Little Boy is easily one of Sugar's weakest episodes. Practically non-existent story with no real conflict and failed at what the first F+C did so well, which was parodying fanfiction. It lacked self-awareness and wasn't particularly funny or interesting.

Your taste is some of the worst I've seen.

>>94946510
>rapist is trying to fuck you while aiming a gun at you, says let them do it
>you say okay out of fear

>this wasn't a rape in your world
granted Lapis wasn't that bad off and did actually want to do it in the end, but reminder that the first thing she did after getting out of the wreckage was fly away before Jasper grabbed her. it wasn't voluntary, she just decided to capitalize on it to torture Jasper.

>>94945765
>Sugar made 5 (very debatably) bad episodes
>this means she did a horrible job
nigger I could go through the episode list and show all the good shit she did. she was able to make episodes that were funny, had very good action by AT standards, sad, interesting from a character/lore perspective, whatever the fuck. she could do pretty much everything well, and her fuckups were few.
the one thing you could say she did wrong is introduce plots, like Flame Princess or Lady's kids, that weren't able to flower in an interesting and satisfying way because she left the show or wasn't able to be there every step of the way to care for them. Sugar was good and didn't kill the show at all.

and Gotcha is a real fun episode fuck you

>>94946574
she wasn't being held at gunpoint at that moment.
>she just decided to capitalize on it to torture Jasper.
Exactly, she DECIDED. If that's not consenting I don't know what is.

>>94946722
she still didn't want it to happen though, she was just using the rape as revenge while being raped.
it's more like while the person was raping them they pushed both of them out a window and injured the both of them, not the person consenting to it.
once again, her first instinct was to run, not go over to Jasper and fuse.

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>>94946465
>You didn't list her worst episode, Bad Little Boy
Her best episode, the episode was simple fun and exciting, it had something to compliment the singing instead of just random movements on screen, There were legitimately good jokes throughout, Marshal Lee's voice actor was perfect for the part. It was a great episode through and through.
>Jake the Dog
The dialogue was awful, there were a few good visuals, any suspense in the episode was killed knowing Jake had his wish, and that it was nothing but an alternate universe.
>Gotcha is a legitimately great episode
I had to read this, with my own two eyes
>episode where LSP was bearable
There is no such thing
>>94946557
>Practically non-existent story with no real conflict
This is a stretch. Fionna and Marshal Lee go to a party and Marshal kidnaps Cake. This episode has as much of a story as any other good AT episode, and as little of a story as any other good AT episode.
>failed at what the first F+C did so well
Nothing. Literally nothing.
>wasn't particularly funny or interesting.
Watch the episode
>>94946703
>I could go through the episode list and show all the good shit she did
Very little
>she was able to make episodes that were funny, had very good action by AT standards, sad, interesting from a character/lore perspective, whatever the fuck. she could do pretty much everything well
Patently false

>>94946869
>there are people alive that thing Rebecca Sugar's best episode was actually Bad Little Boy
What the hell man. For your sake I hope you're a 17 year old girl who had her sexual awakening when that episode first aired and Marshall Lee was just so dreamy, because otherwise how can you have taste so shitty?

>>94946766
at the time, she wasn't being threatened. Jasper never said "fuse with me or I'll shatter you". She grabbed her and made the proposition. If she were held at gunpoint I'd think differently. If she had said no and Jasper grabbed her again and wouldn't let her go, I'd think differently. But no, she heard her out, thought about it, and did it. Yes, she betrayed her through the fusion, but still consented without any visible repercussions for declining.

>>94946869
>Bad Little Boy
>her best episode

Good lord fucking kys.

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>>94946869
>Wrong
>No
>False
>Wrong
>I can't believe this
>Wrong

Great arguments, anon. You sure are making your point clear and contributing to the conversation in a way that doesn't make you a faggot.

>>94946869
>Bad Little Boy
>Her best episode

>>94946963
>>94947043
>>94947106
Mortal Folly or Chamber of Frozen blades are the only other options, I'd put them at about the same place honestly.
But when you look at how much garbage she puts out in AT and her own show, "Sugar's best episode" is not a high bar.
>>94947060
Is there any other response to utter nonsense?

>>94946987
dude, Jasper was holding onto her pretty tightly and asking only to coax her into it. it was a very reasonable assumption for Lapis to think that if she said no Jasper would smash her to bits right there.
it's not full on consent.

>>94947129
Both of those other episodes are also pretty good and both much better than BLB to me. This is now just an opinion fight but it really is odd how you hold such fondness for this pretty whatever episode.

Can you explain yourself more? The stuff you said here >>94946869 was all very general ("it was fun and had good jokes" isn't an in depth explanation of why it was good).

>>94946106
I keep forgetting that he's the voice of Wallo

>>94947129
>Is there any other response to such utter nonsense?
Yeah you could explain your opinion instead of just dismissing the other side as--

...Shit, I'm on /co/, never mind.

>>94945420
>She even managed to pull off cosplaying as Luffy:
Pics or you're the greatest bullshitter on 4chan right now.

>>94946574
More like

>rapist is trying to fuck you while aiming a gun at you, says let them do it
>you have a button that'll set off a rocket launcher and blow the rapist to shit, that you can use at any time
>you say yes to lure the rapist in and then counter rape

>>94947239
>("it was fun and had good jokes" isn't an in depth explanation of why it was good)
Cartoons aren't that complicated and it's midnight, but.

Marcelline had a very distinct personality in her early appearances, in her first two or so episodes this is really apparent. She has a disregard for civility and will fuck with people just for a laugh, Marshall Lee was just like Marcelline was around her introduction, accept being clearly more familiar with Fionna, anything in a cartoon ultimately boils down to to subjectivity but I'll try to explain the appeal of this, their loose personality creates a dynamic with Finn/Fionna that at the very least I find interesting, heroes and well, anti-heroes generally do have interesting interactions, I'd use something like Spiderman and Deadpool as an example. I think this episode is a perfect example of this dynamic., The episode starts off (there is a scene before this that had a joke I found funny, but like all things this is subjective) with something calm, a game in the rain with the archetypal "good boy" PB, the episode doesn't let this scene play out any longer than it needed to for the viewer to get the idea that Fionna is bored with the situation despite liking PB. It's something you see a lot in this episode, there aren't really many things that you get a lot of explanation of unnecessarily, the progression is natural and doesn't leave a lot of hang time. This was a big problem in a lot of other episodes, specifically a lot by Sugar (including in her own show), The interaction between PB and Marshall Lee is short but funny. The episode not long into it's runtime puts you in a more exciting environment than the quiet tree-house it started out in, you immediately get a feel for the difference in atmospheres of the two characters PB and Marshall Lee, which helps from a storytelling perspective considering we don't know the two particularly well yet.

character limit incoming

>>94948469
Sugar really thinks everything is a musical for some reason so there is a song in this episode, but with the context this actually makes sense as opposed to feeling forced or contrived like in 'I remember you.' The song communicates an actual message that the other character could be expected to 'get' from the words being said, which is something I again think SU or some Sugar AT episodes fail at, the songs are usually written in a way that it doesn't seem like whoever they're singing to would even have the context to interpret or in some cases they'd be singing to no one at all, which feels like a forced way to dictate a character's emotions to an audience.
During the song you get a good feel of the relationship between the two from their interaction, it felt genuine. The fight and song leading up to the ending (of the story) paired well with the fight scene with a few funny bits of animation. Fionna's statement to Marshall Lee, telling him off for fucking with her, especially when she thought it was serious it was a great way to show they cared about each other even despite what just happened. It was moving in a way.
Even outside of the (main) Fionna and Cake story, I know /co/ likes to call any compliment of a show a buzzword, but the opening story Ice King told was funny just because of how ridiculous it was, scenes like that and praying to Glob when he thought he was haunted just make the episode so much more likable. Comedy is all about subverting expectations.
This episode did everything right even with potential to do so much wrong.

>>94948469
I can respect you because you have legit reasons for liking this ep so much, even if to me it seems like nothing special. I'm sure that part of the reason you don't like episodes like What Was Missing and I Remember You is because they're so focused on one thing that unfolds slowly over time, as opposed to having a pacing that is constantly moving and introducing new interesting things like BLB.
I also liked more villainish Marceline too, though I think it was handled oddly in BLB because Marshall was clearly shown to be Fionna's friend already yet he was acting like a bigger asshole to her than Marceline ever acted to Finn. And all the 'you like me babe' shit was really boring to me and something Marcy never pulled with Finn.

Cheers man.

>>94945064


Good GOD, that is one homely sack of meat.

Holy FUCK.

That fucking chin like a snowplow, the nose like Carl Malden that drank a few too many, cripes....

This faggot should learn to like ugly.

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Anyone else agree adventure time became heartless, depressing, and unwatchable after sugar left? I fucking love SU but if there is one thing you cant blame the show for its the fall from grace of adventure time, as sugar left the show to make steven universe. Its gotten better now, but i feel alot of the magics been lost and it now feels like some kind of epilouge depressing sad end of a show. I dont know, i hope the ending is happy and uplifting.

>>94949007
>can blame the show for
I fucking hate my keyboard
>>94948911
I know shes kind ugly but i still think shes cute

>>94949007
No, and you are greatly overestimating her influence on the show.

>>94949007
I don't know, AT certainly took a tumble and lost a decent chunk of its charm, but I still liked it.
I think the problem is that it was certainly better at being a wacky, silly cartoon with a tiny injection of depth, than a cartoon that's much more often trying to be deep and serious and interconnected all while maintaining that same feeling of wacky silliness. Sugar helped with it, but I think her leaving was a minor thing that didn't tip the balance all that much.

It's kind of a meme saying AT got good recently but I think it is the truth, I feel like seasons 7 and 8 are a much better and more refined and thought out version of the show that season 5 and 6 were trying to be. I certainly don't think AT was ever soulless or insincere, but there were lots of parts were it was awkward, boring, and dumb, and I think recently the show has gotten a better handle on those things.

The ending scares the shit out of me because they could go ten different directions with it. My one hope with it is that they do something outside the box, because ending the show with just Finn and Jake on a hill and Finn turning to Jake saying "You know Jake, we really were a Adventure Time" or something of that sort would be dull as dishwater.

>>94949033
Then what did adventure time in? Its gotten to be a sad lingering dead corpse of a show, im glad its getting an end, but they shouldve made it years ago or if they had to have wait until 2018 instead of ending it in say 2015 then they shouldve made the seasons before it ended happier and less bleak. Adventure times whole universe used to be full of weird characters and be a happy place. Now when you watch the show you get a feeling of it being barren and joyless. I guess it feels more folksy and alternative, but this level of just feeling sad while watching it is not how it shouldve gone. Ive never seen a show go from such a tonal shift from say an episode from its 1st season to one from its last. Its sad and depressing that a show i used to love and inspired me to be an artist makes me sad and depressed just by watching it. Anyone else feel this way?

>>94945064
>ugly art style's been around since the beginning, it's only more simplified series
>she couldn't be the one who lets storyboarders change up character models all the goddamned time
>i doubt she's the one who makes the characters cry or sing all the time
>townie fillers made up too much of the show so far to be redeemable

Adolf H--
>>94946959
Shit, I got upstaged.

>>94949098
>The ending scares the shit out of me because they could go ten different directions with it. My one hope with it is that they do something outside the box, because ending the show with just Finn and Jake on a hill and Finn turning to Jake saying "You know Jake, we really were a Adventure Time" or something of that sort would be dull as dishwater.
I really hope they dont pull a samurai jack and have finn die a broken and loveless man, and that depressing barren landscape theyve shown as the future really does come to pass. It would be really sad to see a show that used to help me out with my depression with its wackiness and cheerfulness end in a dead and heartless world. I swear to god if they do this i will cry so goddamn hard and be depressed for a while.

>>94949164
The show got popular, the writers got more free rein to do what they wanted. Also, they couldn't keep doing what they had been doing otherwise the show would've gotten very stale, very quickly. Adventure Time has always been about pushing the boundaries of weirdness, and the change of tone, and transition to more experimental storytelling is a natural progression of that philosophy.

I still love the show, perhaps even more than I did in the beginning, but I can totally understand how you're feeling because the show has changed a lot over the years.

>>94949218
Based on the future they've shown Finn is totally gonna die, but it probably won't be shown. I mean, he is just a human, no other ending would be appropriate for him. Would be boring for him to become the 15th immortal person on the cast.

I think that Finn has definitely plateaued onto being in a good state in his life, even with him facing hard times still. His story has been a journey of growth, and he's either at or near the end point of his maturation so it would be far too depressing for the show to not give him a happy ending I think.
Adventure Time already got rid of all their angsty "this is pointless everything sucks I'm dead inside" stuff concerning Finn during the 6th season I think.

I'm not sure what form that ending will come in, he could finally get a girl, defeat the Lich for the final time, reaffirm that he loves being a hero and helping others, do some shit with Jake and his other close friends and loved ones, but I feel his story will have a happy end.

>>94949233
I dont care if it wouldve gotten stale. They shouldve just kept it the same way it was and just progress the story with its wackiness, not have a complete tonal change and make the veiwer feel downright suicidal after watching an episode. The reason why im so upset is necause adventure time meant a lot to me, and it was my favorite thing to watch on tv after i got home from my freshmen year of highschool during a time when everyone either hated me or didnt care about me. Seeing it become this tryhard sad parralel to its once hilariously happy self is just plain sad. Im watching the last season for nostalgias sake and because i feel obligated to see how it ends, but i refuse to watch the seasons before it because ill feel depressed and downright suicidal if i do.

>>94945475
>I think it's a statement that gay people should be ignored

They SHOULD be ignored. That's how I treat 99% of people that I come across in my life. They shouldn't be celebrated, paraded, and passed around like trendy handbags.

I admire Sugar for at least taking the step of, "I don't like there is no ____, so I want to make my own _____", but I hate the notion that entertainment NOT having enough representation is viewed as a problem rather than an observation. Especially when you're talking about fucking classic fairy tales that were clearly from a different time period.

>>94949007
Sugar leaving didn't decrease the quality of the show. In fact Sugar started the sad and depressing story arc trend in AT
>Its gotten better now
No it hasn't.

>>94949276
I know hes going to die, but i just dont want him to die sad and alone like jack was implied to have. I also want them to recton that bad end of a future to be a timeline that was prevented. Lemonhope as an episode had such a sad ending that i dropped the show a little while after that after thinking about it for awhile. Ive only just started watching again after about 3 years of ignoring it because i hated the storys and routes they were taking. I just want the show to be happy again, even in its last 5 minutes.

>>94945527
Despite having a million followers, she still manages to be a big "literally who" on this board. That's probably because the majority of her fanbase are underage teens who are attracted to e-drama and her edgy characters.

I imagine she's gonna have a hell of a time being even semi relevant in like five years when her fanbase grows up. She feels like a newgrounds animator in that regard.

>>94945064
>Sugar's kinda spineless and she couldn't reel her staff in until it reached a boiling point and fired Zuke
>until it reached a boiling point and fired Zuke
>boiling point and fired Zuke
Lauren Zuke is 100% the reason I soured on this show and am now so far behind. PLEASE tell me this is true!

>>94949334
Its not much better, but im watching because i have an obligation to see how it ends after loving it many years ago, and the show now has some moments of being funny while having a slight taste of depression rather then a few years ago in something like breezy were you just felt like crying afterwards

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>>94949349
Yeah, zukes gone since the begining of season 5. No one knows if she was fired or just left but alot of people think she was kicked out

>>94949338
I get you, the show really veered off from being happy stuff with boy and dog fighting monsters into some really fucking weird and often uncomfortable places that not everyone signed up for.
At the very least I'm confident that Finn will have a good end and I hope you enjoy what time the show has left bruv.

>>94949314
This. Being gay shouldn't be special, it should just be a thing that you are.

>>94949388
Thanks, it didnt help that finn loosing his GF and her turning out to ne a bitch hapend around the time i got dumped, and it also didnt help that he hasnt gotten a mew gf in 3 FUCKING YEARS

>>94949338
The ending in Lemonhope was far, far into the future though. Nothing lasts forever.

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>>94945064
I believe hopper said it best

>>94945447
>Rebecca ruins everything she touches.
What?
Welph, now I know why we only have shitty shows. Bad tastes always prevail.

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Bendis is actually not that bad of a writer. Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil are actually good, and his 'trilogy' is pretty enjoyable.

Can someone give me a summary of what happened with Zuke? I missed that shit.