ITT, mooks, grunts and cannon fodder Let's show some appreciation

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If the 80's did anything right, it was quality army builders

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No one?

shameless bump

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Super Sentai will always have top notch mooks

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Do clone troopers count?

>>94920288
yes.

that's literally their reason for being. that and the whole order 66.

>>94919006
I'm very tired of mooks being portrayed as incompetent buffoons. Especially when they're supposed to be hardened mercenaries or the like. The heroes don't look that tough for knocking around a bunch of useless goons.

Of course, they can't be portrayed as badasses or even reasonably clever, cause that requires the barest of effort.

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>>94920451
less incompetency, more of being a war criminal (executed rather than being able to fight)

>>94920451
Yeah, but if they did THAT, and the mooks became an actual threat in and of themselves, either
1) The hero spends ALL his time just struggling against the army when he should be dealing with the mastermind and his evil scheme or
2) the hero requires an extensive back-up army of his own to handle things, in which case the point becomes moot because the hero never has to fight the foot soldiers himself anyway, as his support crew does it for him.

Besides, people who are genuinely clever badasses probably aren't going to settle for being rank and file anyway, and they'll graduate to "named lieutenants"

>>94920629
>>94920451

how do groups like SHIELD fall into this? stated to recruit the best but still are glorified mooks compared to costumed heroes.

>>94920629
Well why not give the hero their own army? Being the commander of an armed forced never stopped a protagonist from fighting on the front lines. Big Boss, for example.

Besides, due to the law of villainous ability rating, if the looks are that tough, imagine how much of a juicy challenge the villain themselves must be.

>>94920774
That's just good old vanilla bad writing.

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Were Red Shadows the worst treated henchmen?

>>94921273
SHIELD hogging the best guys might explain why the rest of the law (army, police, coast guard) is very ineffective in general.

>>94921309
can't recall what character/series at the moment but there's a boss that has a penchant for killing his henchmen for the slightest of offenses/whim.

basically they only serve him out of fear and survivability (live longer in minutes rather than die on the spot).

>>94921320
Not like SHIELD is any better.

I fucking despise that SHIELD has become little more than anti-authoritarian strawmen who exist only to make the superheroes look good. Say what you will about Pleasant Hill, at least Maria was actively trying to create a solution to the super villain problem. Don't see any of the display brigade doing anything long term productive.

... Goddamn, I miss Maria Hill. Why does Marvel have to hate on best girl so much?

>>94921683
like i said, they still come out as glorified mooks when almost every costumed freak can do a better job even if they're supposed to be trained better/have better skills than the ordinary cop/soldier.

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>>94919006
Why are mooks so appealing? Is it what you don't see?

>>94921737
They provide the illusion of infrastructure, AKA true power. You can have your magic bullshit superpowers, but nothing beats good ol' fashion hierarchy, resources, and connections.

And frankly, the imagery of a highly organized armed force is just cool. Again, makes it look like everyone knows what they're doing, and thus intimidating.

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>when the henchmen have unique body types rather than being a single copy/pasted design

That doesn't get done enough

>>94921966
Dude, it's rare for ANY characters in a comic or cartoon to have different body types. The mooks are lucky when they get to have a face.

>>94921737
Looking at the people beneath the masks gives the villains a breath of humanity that keeps them from being too cartoonishly evil
A lot of times mooks are just average dudes trying to make an honest buck, and that kind of surprisingly relatable position keeps things just ambiguous enough to be interesting

>>94920288
>>94920328

Only non-colored Clone Troopers the ones with markings have atleast an 50% increase in survival

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>>94919064
The Foot Soldier's design is really neat and deserves some appreciation.
The weird bug eyes you see in almost every adaptation of the TMNT give them a really distinct look compared to your average ninja mook. Like you see those eyes and you know you're not dealing with any ninja, you're dealing with the Foot.

I also like the Konami games where they have multiple different colors. Wish the cartoon picked that up but they look good in purple too.

>>94920142
What series? I want to watch it for these guys alone.

>>94922730

Do the turtles actually kill or destroy foot ninjas in the original cartoon? I know they do in the new one since they're robots, but I don't remember much from the old series.

Honestly, which cartoons actually having mooks serving as actual cannon fodder and getting BTFO by the heroes? I know some Transformers G1 episodes have generics getting wrekd.

>>94923798
They were robots in the old cartoon too.

How come in comics and cartoon female henchwomen are so rare. I don't mean like "evil Baroness-style second in command" or "Bad guy Moll", but just girl cannon-fodder?

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Someone needs to make the ultimate faceless mook.

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>sign up for some stargate rip-off mission
>have to wear sweaty masks the whole time
>get blown up, shot at and harrassed by natives
>but hopefully the pay will be enough for your family back home
>half your team suddenly turns against you, sides with the natives and kills you

whoop

“They may be called the Palace Guard, the City Guard, or the Patrol. Whatever the name, their purpose in any work of heroic fantasy is identical: it is, round about Chapter Three (or ten minutes into the film) to rush into the room, attack the hero one at a time, and be slaughtered. No one ever asks them if they want to.
This book is dedicated to those fine men.”
― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

>>94926397
They should have been able to see the writing on the wall or have marketable skills other than "happy to follow orders" and "trained in hazmat suit usage".

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>>94926478
what writing? who would betray such an honorable charismatic figure?

>>94926709
The "Hey guys, let's fuck over this ancient, highly advanced civilization before we have a way out of oceantown. I'm sure NOTHING WILL GO WRONG." writing.

>>94929564

>>94922263
But then seeing mooks get slaughtered en masse is no fun, bruh

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So /co/ as a supervillain what kinda designs would you give your henchmen?

For me, it's pic related or something similar. I fucking love bulky, scary looking biohazard suits.

>>94930206
Practical, utilitarian gear and weapons. Think the Replicas from F.E.A.R.
They're meant to kill people, not look scary.

>>94930206
I always like mooks that look like lesser versions of the main villain

shows the ego and vanity real well, wants people to look like him but not better than him

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>>94930270
>I always like mooks that look like lesser versions of the main villain

this

that's why cobra troopers are so classy
stormtroopers were classy but prequels ruined it

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>>94930407

I like the storm kings soldiors

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>>94930438
Crimson guards are classy motherfuckers
love they armor designs at any form

>>94924549
women are to fuck not to kill

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>>94930526
What about punching?

>>94930407
I always dug that bit in the movie intro with the crimson guard smashing the shit out of that one guy's camera

the fuck was his problem?

>>94930555
They didn't seriously make up a bunch of female cobra troops so they'd be allowed to punch lady Jaye in the face, did they?

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>>94930706
men can't beat women in cartoons

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>>94930706
Baroness found a magic seashell that put all men into a trance. So all that was left were the female cobra troopers.

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>Villain kills own henchman

>>94930748
I'm sure it slips past the censors every now and then, can't think of any examples though
>>94930755
>all that was left were the female cobra troopers

WHEN WAS THAT EVEN A THING?!

>>94930810
pffft

you know killing someone is a pretty negative solution, cobra commander

>>94923786
Ressha Sentai ToQger
The train themed Super Sentai. It's definitely a fun ride if the sillyness of the first episode doesn't slay you

>>94920142
it reminds me those guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDQPIJSO0XA

>>94921309
>Action Force
My brother.

I've always been fascinated by the idea of heroic mooks, or red shirts, if you will. Because frankly, I'm sick of the whole 'lone hero' thing. Yeah, it's a romantic idea, but the way things actually get done, how things are actually accomplished in any meaningful way is infrastructure, organization, a chain of command.

There's a reason that's how things are done in life, assuming everyone involved is doing their job, it's because it works.

But of course, red shirts gotta get shat on too, because goodness forbid anyone besides the main character do anything useful, especially if they're logically more qualified for certain tasks.

>>94931811
Pretty much all the Joes except for the super popular ones were "red shirts" but with punches and being tied up and maybe experimented on instead of killed

On an unrelated note, I'd like to say that my favorite GI Joe episode was the one where Cobra Commander lost everything and he and Storm Shadow go rob the mafia. At least, I think that's what happened, all I really remember is Storm Shadow being really loyal and Cobra getting choked up about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD3w_VdTG30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_AFraxj-4

Was something like this depicted in comics or cartoons?

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>>94919006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYQ-u9mnUGw

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>>94919006
post mooks that actually enabled their leader win to conquer the world

>>94930748
Damn she's cute.

>>94930971
Spell of the Siren was the episode. Though every once in a while there's a female trooper that shows up.

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Mooks truly are the greatest heroes of all. They generally don't have special gear. They generally don't have special powers. Yet they still fight the hero, villain or monster, and many of them die unceremoniously.

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a moment of silence for these brave bucket of bolts who went offline to make sgt. slaughter awesome.

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>>94931811

This was a small detail that I really liked about Justice League Unlimited. The Watchtower actually had a full civilian staff who actually did things that were important like repairs and engineering, maintaining the teleporter and the other facilities, ran a full cafeteria and recreation and gym areas for the heroes, and actually helped Jonn on monitor duty. There were even a few episodes like the Task Force X one or when Luthor takes over the Flash's body where they were useful in fighting off threats. It was a cool little detail that really filled out the world that I would love to see more.

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>mfw the mooks have a better more AESTHETIC look than the heroes and villians
WASTED
FUCKING
WASTED

>>94930043
Aside from the giant obvious weakspot, these guys were pretty cool

>>94930555
Huh. Mooks actually taking advantage of superior numbers. You don't see that too often.

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I love this image nearly as much as the Crimson Guardsmen eating donuts.

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>>94934361
>Terrorist organization has a union and the troopers were able to file for unemployment.
>They also get a good healthcare plan

The mook life is the best life in Cobra.

>>94933494
>just now realized that Watchtower staff uniforms look like the Wonder Twins' costumes
Heh. Cute.

But yeah, this just makes sense. I wish more media would acknowledge and explore logistics. Maybe that's why everything in the world has gone to shit, cause nobody knows how infrastructure works anymore. Gotta ingrain that shit into people's heads, that it takes organization in order to get things done.

Nobody can do everything by themselves. It's just not feasible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2S1HcctItM

>>94934518
Damn, where do I know them from?

Did they work for Two-Face?

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killing own mooks causes troubles like finding new recruits

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Shin Chan english version season 2 episode 2.
Action Bastard subplot.
Takes out the henchmen with his dick.

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>>94933552
Fire nation soldiers look awesome.

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Question: Who has the crappiest mooks?

(Pic not necessarily related, only posted it because they look like Crash Test Dummies)

>>94937042
>T-rex smashes through wall
>wall spontaneously regenerates
>triceratops phases through wall
Look, every production has to cut corners somewhere, but come the fuck on.

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bad guys aren't the only one who need grunts, BPRD and plenty of other good guys need their own share of cannon fodder

>>94937042
>wall regenerates
>triceratops walks through solid wall
>T-Rex goes straight for the salads
This will always make me laugh. It is such a fuckup that I wonder if it isn't intentional.

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>A group of mooks with no boss or mastermind

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>>94937302
The Tick was an awesome show
literally /co/ of capeshit

>random mook/jobber that got wrecked comes back for vengeance
>Hero completely forgot about their existence
Are there any series besides Hokuto no Ken that do this?

>>94935798
Yes, they were in BTAS.

>>94937571
There was that one guy who claimed to be Spider-Man's arch-nemesis. I can't remember his name, I think he had a black costume with yellow eyes.

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>>94938028
Slyde

>>94937571
The best example of this was from Gargoyles
>Prepare to get CREAMED

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>>94937140
The BPRD life is a rough one.

>>94930810
>gun makes a fart sound

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>>94938145
That's the guy. I like him.

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>>94938028
>>94938145

>>94931811
not /co/ but this is a reason I like Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard are just your canon fodder but they are just great especially that bastard with the biggest balls who saved the emperor

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>>94919006
Reminder that Shocker grunts are best grunts.

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Not really /co/ but I just remembered this

>>94933018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TA-QJ2d3kk

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>>94938384
A reminder that Great Leader had ALL the shocker grunts killed, and started Gel-Shocker

>>94937470
Only thing bad about it is the fact you can only find shitty VHS rips of the show.

Everything else I'd excellent

>>94920142
I love that for some fucking reason in Power rangers Boom comics this guys are Lord Zedds army

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>>94938445
>tfw nanomachines keep turning people into horrible monsters, and you have to fight them.
>tfw it's inevitable that you or someone you care about will turn into a monster.

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>>94926306
still need this chart to be done

>>94937571
Venture Brothers has done it several times

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>>94926306
stormtrooper and cobra trooper fusion

>>94926306
I'm imagining the three way combined one to have a laser nunchuck that just fires of beams randomly.

>>94937078
All MCU goons are extremely incompetent. The worst are probably the Chitauri or Sakaarans, who from what we saw on screen would be hard pressed against WW1 armies.

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Red/black dragon grunts looked cool

I know that mook are usually just punching bag either for the good guy or bad guys, but its kind of cool to know that most of the time they are actually all trained and professional fighters.

>>94933018
That scene pissed me off when I first saw it.

I wish there was a show about a Mook Commander trying to keep his Mooks alive/doing slice of life things with them while watching the Lieutenants and Commanders of his organization act charismatic/fuck-ups in front of the Heroes, and the Mook Commander keeps everyones spirits up by reminding them why they fight (That sweet paycheck + oath of loyalty & honor.)

>>94919006
What's Cobra troop life is like when there is no missions or trouble ? I remember there were episodes that shows their life is actually pretty good. Like they got cafeteria , swim pool, tennis gym like that

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>>94937302

They can only hope he's hiring.

>>94937042
>>94937165
I've worked on low budget analog 2D-animation productions in the past, and shit like this happened all the time.
The guy filming the scene juggles a lot of layers of celluloid sheets with background layers, character layers, individual limb layers and effect layers below the stationary camera, and fairly often he would miss a layer or screw up the sequence, especially when nearing a deadline, and if the production couldn't afford to re-shoot the scene, you got instantly repairing walls.
Compositing everything on computers were the greatest gift to animation ever, if you ask me.

>>94934388
Almost worth getting eaten by piranhas, ey?

>>94943187
Problem is everyone took the extra power of computing and used it to completely fuck off.

>>94943316
>he didnt get at least an associates in a relevant field for instant promotion
Lmao @ur life you stupid grunt

>>94943455
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean, when you say they fucked off.
Is it about the ever increasing power of computers moving the focus from 2D- to 3D-animation?

>>94943528
I mean if they spent a similar amount of man hours or even a proportional you wouldn't end up with the blobbly nonsense we have now.

>>94919006
How does Cobra keep getting these guys?

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>>94919006

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>>94943847
Cobra Commander knows how to appeal to some people.

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>>94943875

What are some shows with good "heroes against mooks" fights?

Samurai Jack comes to mind, it does "one vs. many" so right.

>>94943790
Okay, I get it now, and you're absolutely right; there're far too many productions that run on way too low a budget or cut corners in all the wrong places animation-wise.
From that perspective, the move from analog to digital did nothing good for animated shows or movies.

>>94941447
sounds like the xtacles spinoff

playing that concept straight sounds pretty bad to be frank

>>94921966
Which Duck comic is this?

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>>94943494
>not aiming for Tele-Viper and getting those sweet goggles.

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>>94945312
Tele-Viper is the absolute bottom of the barrel of Cobra's mooks. Might as well be a Toxo-Viper and their suits don't even fully protect them from toxic environments.