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>Both became mega hits in the Bronze age due to top tier writing

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>Both became mega hits in the Bronze age due to top tier writing of Claremont,Wolfman and Perez
>One managed to keep up the high sales afterwards
>While the other faded into obscurity until a Cartoon made them popular again

What happened to cause this?
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Teen Titans comics in the 90s (and honestly probably up til Rebirth) were BAD. Like, you think X-Men was bad for a long time, to be as bad as Titans they'd have to kill off or ruin or write out every character you cared about, fill the comic with annoying new characters, do a cast shuffle every other Wednesday and, uh... well
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>>94888651
Claremont only inserted his fetishes and not himself
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>>94888680
So it's like how writers used to make a new class of X-Men every run but then another writer starts a run they disregard the group of X-Men previous writer made to put his new OC's in the spotlight,

But even worse?
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>>94888703
If by "even worse" you mean the team's entire history/roster is retconned every other volume?

Then yes.
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Teen Titans are called the Teen Titans while half the members are adults
it's stupid and their comics are consistently shitty
literately the worst teen superhero team in comics
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>>94888703
Yeah. I think even at the time the cartoon came out, like literally the only 'classic' Titan on the team was Changeling/Beastboy. By the end of the 90s Dick was firmly in the orbit of the Bat-books and Cyborg had been turned into some kind of alien hive mind thing that went into space (I have long since forgotten the details due to stupidity). it was like if X-Men got rid of Wolverine, Cyclops, Professor X, and all the iconic characters people associated with X-Men... which they're kinda doing now but yeah.
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>>94888730
>>94888745
What the fuck was DC trying to sabotage the Titans?
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>>94888758
Well, you know how Chris Claremont left the x-books in 1991 because they were giving loads of creative power to hotshot new artists like Jim Lee and Rob Liefeld and not letting him do the stories he'd had planned? Okay imagine instead of that Claremont gets to do the stories he wants and they're bad. Like really bad. Like late-season Dallas. Basically that was what happened at the end of Wolfman's tenure. Perez was long gone, Wolfman had used all his best ideas and it showed. He actually had the Titans agree to disband in his final issue but even when they tried to revive it with a new writer it was like "shit, is there a romantic plot we haven't tried yet?" "What if we kill a Titan off every issue for a year, is that a good gimmick?"
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>>94888758
DC has an amazing ability to destroy the popularity of any character(s) that gets popular that isn't named Batman. Teen Titans and Legion of Super-Heroes were their most popular series in the 70s and 80s. In the 90s they just completely shit on them so much that they both became these niche books that not many people were reading and after that they just became outright obscure.
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