https://twitter.com/TheInSneider/st atus/900124290858704896

Suicide Squad Joker confirmed to be a Revenge of the Joker Tim Drake situation.

>>94837621
ugh

>>94837621
Another fuckup from the "geniuses" at DC

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>Joker

The day people finally get tired of him can't come fast enough

>>94837621
>more Bat related shit
What is the point of having a superhero genre if Batman is the only thing anyone gives a shit about?

>Scorsese involved in capeshit
Anyone who believes this is stupid.

>>94837621
>Joker Origin
Just stop.

>>94837621
Are we finally doing an Elseworld live action?

>>94837621
Why? the "origin" is the least interesting part fo the Joker as a character!

>Elseworld film

great.

>Joker Origin

christ what the fuck

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>>94837621
>no HONKA HONKA

Why even watch it?

>>94837702
doubting the power of a cinematic Batverse

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>Batgirl Movie
>Nightwing movie
>Gotham Sirens
>Skwad 2
>Batman solo
>all anounced and in production
>MoS2 or anything Superman nowhere in sight
its not fair
why did they have to lump Supes with Snyder

>character origins
Everytime people do this it wrecks things. A great character should be about who they are, about their mannerisms, not what made them that way.

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>>94837621
>Joker origin

>>94837820
>>Nightwing movie
>>Gotham Sirens

I feel like these two aren't so far into product as most people think, I mean they weren't in the banned shown at SDCC

>>94837751
Agreed.
Remember when there was basically no story to Joker? "You wanna know how I got these scars" and it was a different story every time, no name, no shit like that. It was good. It wasn't leaning on what they told you happened before, it was in the fucking now, showing you what the character was by how he acted and what he did.

Nolan showed who the Joker was, and didn't just TELL you who the Joker was, and it was way fucking better.

>>94837795
>Elseworld film

Eh?

>>94837891
deadline has this:

>This will be the first film under a new banner that has yet to be named in which WB can expand the canon of DC properties and create unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters.

Different actors from the canon films.

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>current year
>be DC
>the people have decided that showing the hero's origin in a capeshit film is passé
>hey guys I have a great idea!

>>94837811
I'm asking for real though. Why even bother with the pretense at this point? Why must all other franchises be forced to live with the indignity of living in the vastly bigger shadow of another?

Go ahead and have your Bat-verse, but don't be an asshole and make the rest of us feel like the stuff we like is anything other than filler. It's just cruel at this point. Just let the other capes quietly die with some dignity, instead of being little more than moons orbiting around Batman's morbidly fat ass.

>>94837621
Why Joker's?

I mean isn't it better that we use one of the other Batman villains which had canon origins?

This has warning signs written all over it; "because Joker doesn't have a canon past, we can make any shit up for this film and it would be easy!"

>>94837891
Basically it's a standalone noir Scorsese film (Godfellas/Departed) starring the Joker.

>>94838038
>"because Joker doesn't have a canon past, we can make any shit up for this film and it would be easy!"
He'll have a daughter and lose her to some Wayne Enterprises shenanigans, driving him crazy in the final third of the film. Somehow they'll work reasons for the clown getup in there, and a Batman scene at the end.

>>94837685
I hope its soon fuck joker

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>>94837621
JUST FUCK MY FRANCHISE UP

>>94837641
>Tim Drake

When the film came out, months after Arkham Knight, people said he was Jason Todd.

Nobody seems to note Snyder's constant sucking of Miller's mythos, which means it's far more likely to be Dick Grayson.

>>94837932
a new banner that has yet to be named in which WB can expand the canon of DC properties and create unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters
This is proof that DC/WB have lost faith in the DCEU and are abandoning it.

>>94837932
>unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters

So, like the regular films?

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>Joker origin story

The Joker shouldn't have an origin story.

>we will never get The Gotham Hangover starring Joker, Penguin and Two-Face

>>94838133
Nahh thats the joker baby the one and only
>Honka! Honka!

>WITH JIM CARREY AS JACK NAPIER

>You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

Why the fuck does the Joker appeal to normies so much? Pretty much every other villain in Batman's lore is better.

>>94837621
> Joker origin story will be three stories with brief moments of the Joker as a narrator to someone who he's telling the story too.

When asked which one is the real one, Joker tells him, "Guess?" Which the person does and the Joker kills him. "It doesn't matter. Like your life."

>>94838211
because clowns/jesters causing distress is an extremely old storytelling trope that crosses many cultural boundaries

I'm not really sure why the modern day jokers that move away from laughing madman and lean harder on fucked up edge gangster are so popular other than coasting on recognition though

>>94837621
Great, it's the seventh fucking movie planned by DC starring Batman characters. Can we have at least one good Superman movie before this whole project becomes the Batman Cinematic Universe? Maybe one where he gets clotheslined by the big nerd from Colu?

No? That got shelved for the Red Hood/Killer Croc team-up movie? Alright...

>>94838134
>This is proof that DC/WB have lost faith in the DCEU and are abandoning it.
Even post-Wonder Woman?

>>94838240
MOM'S

This seems like a weird project.

I didn't care for the Joker origin on that Gotham TV show except for the part that had Joker's past connected to Haly's Circus. I was surprised no one made that connection before then.

>>94837621
Live action capeshit was a mistake.

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>>94838283
>>94837932

>mfw they eventually do a Crisis storyline

this all sounds incredibly shitty but maybe at least we'll get a Batman Beyond movie? that won't completely suck?

I want this film to show the Joker in such a disgusting light that people stop rooting for him. Have him start shooting children and shouting "HAPPY SANDY HOOKS DAY!"

>>94838283
GONNA

I don't doubt that this is an idea WB & DC has tossed around, but I mean the latest tweet from that website is "The internet reacts to the Joker movie!"

>>94838347
Molester Joker

>>94838347
>>94838373

will literally never happen

>>94838134
>This is proof that DC/WB have lost faith in the DCEU and are abandoning it.
LOL No. Not with how much money they're making and not with Wonder Woman's success. In comic terms, this is an OGN to go alongside their monthlies. /co/ was bitching about how there's no standalone capeshit and everything was connected by a series. He's your standalone.

>>94838347
Azzarello Joker? The easiest way to make sure a character isn't glorified is to make them a racist, a rapist, or both. People are desensitized to mere torturers and murderers.

>>94837685
How could you not like his in character shenanigans? HE FUCKING BECAME THE JOKER

>>94837621
>come on William Dafoe
>COME ON WILLIAM DAFOE
>COME ON WILLIAM DAFOE!

>>94838353
FREAK

>Scorsese doing capeshit
what the fuck

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>>94837621
>Joker
>Origin Story
Do people forget that it doesnt fucking matter?

>>94838406
>Azzarello Joker
Was fucking trash. But really it doesnt matter what sources they pull from, because making a Joker origin movie is a stupid fucking idea.

>>94838443
>Do people forget that it doesnt fucking matter?
The "people"are Warner CEOs. And Warner doesn't know enough about the Joker to have anything to forget.

>>94838466
Azzarello Luthor was good.

>>94837944
idk might be cool to compare the twos origin in movies form. this makes it easier to get the important events in their lives without having to go through volumes of pages or messing with wiki

I rather it be a short film in front of one of the Batman movies. Like let be a psychiatrist visit where you never see the doctor and Jokers just talking the whole time. Starring various actors playing the Joker.

>>94838522
That'd be a neat idea actually, I'd much rather watch a connected short before a film, better than fucking TV commercials before the previews.

The only way I can get behind this is if its a collection of "origins" told by the Joker that conflict one another. But we're probably getting another Killing Joke

What's so bad about the Joker having an origin story? Is it because you don't want to think too much on things?

>>94838522
something like this would be enjoyable

>>94838551
Yeah, someone go sell their soul so Moore will write it.

>>94838572
Yeah, maybe like The Usual Suspects.

>>94838577
He's better to be a mystery.

>>94838577
Retard

>>94837684
>Scorsese
>DC

>>94837820
Batgirl is probably up in the air at this point

>>94838644
do you REALLY think Scorsese gonna be in this shit?

>>94837684
WB is not DC anon

>>94838644

You know, i wouldn't mind seeing a Joker Origin movie in the feel of Goodfellas.

"As far as I can remember, I always wanted to get these scars."

>Joker Origin story
No
I hope you retarded /tv/ fags finally stop defending this shit.

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I know Warner is stupid enough to do it but 5 bucks says it is fake

If Scorsese is really involved i would like it to be a mob film.

1989 origin with red hood, show that Jack already was a little crazy before the accident.

Give him a wife and kid like in TKJ and have the mob kill them after he tries to take over the mob from falcone or maroni.

>>94838803
>I know Warner is stupid enough to do it
is going to make like 700 million at least

>>94838406
this

joker just saying nigger once would make the normies turn on him faster than batmanvsuperman dropped at the box office.

>>94837621

My mom was told about this news, and she seemed quiet distressed.

if this was some retarded MCU villain origin story you shills would be lapping it up

>>94838921
Joker would actually fit into godfather, taxi driver, goodfellas, shutter island.

>>94838803
WB is stupid enough to do Flashpoint right after they had a successful Wonder Woman film.

>>94837820
I mean does anyone want another superman movie connected to this universe? Snydersupes is just terrible.

>>94838994
No that wouldnt. It would be hilarious.

>>94839015
>if this was some retarded MCU villain origin story you shills would be lapping it up
There are many villains that could make good origin story films. From both DC and Marvel.

Joker is NOT one of them. There is a reason he is The Joker, and not known for any other name.

>>94839182
>There are many villains that could make good origin story films. From both DC and Marvel.
Such as?

>>94839226
>Such as?
Litterally any Batman villain we know their real names of. Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot, Harvey Dent, Edward Nigma, Victor Fries.

And the same applies for Marvel. Once again, as long as they have an actual real name and origin.

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>>94837621
I'll believe it when they start filming it. Even then...

>>94839166
it would be hilarious HERE, but normies would turn on joker pretty fast, and the whole fucking movie. Lots of controversy too. People have a problem with a lot less bullshit, and a major character like joker saying nigger would start major shitstorm.

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>>94839226
you really need to ask?

>>94837957
Agreed. I love Animal Man, but the chances of him ever becoming a popular character that the average person knows is non-existant.

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>>94839226

>>94839270
>even MORE Bat-faggotry
Should've seen that coming.

Again, there's no reason to even have a superhero genre, since Batman is the only thing anyone cares about.

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>>94837621
>Joker origin story

>>94839342
>>even MORE Bat-faggotry
>Should've seen that coming.
Batman has some of the best villains, that is just the way it is. It just so happened that Joker is the worst one to make an origin film for.

>>94837820
Let's be real here, nobody, at least not the general public, actually likes Superman in these movies

>>94837621
>Martin Scorsese

HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS
HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS
IF I EVER MEET HIM IM GONNA GRAB HIS FUCKING NECK AND JUST SHAKE HIM
AND SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR MAKING SUCH EXCELLENT FUCKING MOVIES
THEN ID TWIST HIS NOSE ALL THE WAY THE FUCK AROUND
AND THEN RIP OFF ONE OF HIS EARS AND THROW IT
LIKE A FUCKING FRISBEE
I WANT TO CHEW HIS FUCKING LIPS OFF AND GRAB HIS HEAD AND SUCK OUT ONE OF HIS EYES AND CHEW ON IT AND SPIT IT OUT IN HIS FACE AND SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR FUCKING FILMS
THEN I'D PICK HIM UP BY THE HAIR SWING HIM OVER MY HEAD A FEW TIMES
AND THROW HIM ACROSS THE ROOM AND KICK ALL HIS FUCKING TEETH IN AND THEN STOMP ON HIS FACE 40 OR 50 TIMES
BECAUSE HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS
HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE

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>>94839226

>>94839373
>nobody, at least not the general public, actually likes these movies
ftfy

WB is like bizarro Sony Pictures.

They have no idea what they're doing and throw all kinds of shit at the wall to see what sticks, but unlike Sony they keep failing upwards.

>>94839015
>>94839226
DC already made a movie about 5 villains dumbass.

>>94839362
>Batman has the best villains
Sure, if your measurement of quality is being spammed everywhere, to the point most people don't even know who other heroes' villains are, then I guess so.

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>>94839015

>>94839415
>They have no idea what they're doing and throw all kinds of shit at the wall to see what sticks, but unlike Sony they keep failing upwards.
That's because Warner has enough people with actual talent to regularly kill off bad ideas that get spawned. Not all of it, but enough of it that it keeps the studio running.

On the other hand it seems people with talent had abandoned Sony Pictures long ago. And with Emoji making money it is very likely they will make more like it in the near future.

>>94838426
THIS DAMMIT

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>>94839447
maybe because everyone else in DC has the worst villains

>>94839447
>Sure, if your measurement of quality is being spammed everywhere, to the point most people don't even know who other heroes' villains are, then I guess so.
That's not the villain's fault.

It is all about the film studios making the right decisions. Most people have no idea who Vulture is, now they do. Batman villains are unusually developed with backstories, with the exception of Joker.

Who fucking asked for this?

Literally fucking who?

>>94839552
No one. But they're doing it anyway.

I can't help but think WB bought the "DC wins Oscars!" meme and is basically producing an Academy-friendly Scorcese mob movie ripoff with a slight Joker coat of paint to fish for nominations.

>>94837932
>create unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters

Does that mean they'll stop this stupid cross-platform embargo now?

>>94839052
>WB is stupid enough to do Flashpoint right after they had a successful Wonder Woman film.

WB is stupid enough to do Flashpoint but have it only follow Batman and have Batman be the cause of it all.

>>94838122
This was shooped, right?

>>94838178
I would actually be insanely ok with Jim Carrey as the Joker.

>>94839447
>Sure, if your measurement of quality is being spammed everywhere
Well it works

>>94839670
See, I can't tell if you're presenting a hypothetical scenario, or referring to an actual news development. Either way, you're right, they would be stupid enough to do that, and it sell a shitload of tickets too. Still though.

>>94837758
Aren't all the live action films Elseworlds?

>>94839525
Anon nobody knows shit about Spider-man villains even after the movies.

>>94837621
I'd love to see a Scorsese directed Joker movie.

>>94838644
If you could have Scorsese direct a cape movie, what would it be?

>>94838122
>my franchise

>>94837621
In Nolan's Dark Knight, Joker is "in the MCU" and Batman's weapons and tools are supplied by Fox.

> Dat foreshadowing.

>>94837621
good, I hate that fucker.

>>94840715
>Fox
Brett Ratner directing when?

>>94838134
>This is proof that DC/WB have lost faith in the DCEU and are abandoning it.
And IMMEDIATELY doing a reboot. This is Amazing Spider-Man all over again

>>94838522
This is what WB/DC should do as their answer to Marvel's post-credits.

>>94839525
>Most people have no idea who Vulture is, now they do
Yeah he's supposed to be a anti-hero father trying to make money for his family, not some bald older guy using gauntlets to steal the life force of people so he can live longer, like how he is in the FUCKING COMIC

I've always said DC should just do standalone elseworld's movies. This whole cinematic universe building up to some world ending threat is so fucking lame.

Now give me my George Miller New Gods movie before he dies.

>>94840830
MCU Vulture > Comics Vulture.

>>94840903
No, I like what Marvel does, but DC should not blindly copy it, they should do their own thing.

>Joker Origin movie

premise is guaranteed to be shit

In all seriousness, I'd like them to double down and use a different actor to play Joker every movie. The guy's design and mannerisms change almost constantly in the comics so it'd make sense.

>>94840948
Why? Marvel's best movies are the ones that are as far removed from the grander MCU and more focused on telling a good, personal story - Iron Man, Winter Soldier, GotG. DC has always been known for their standalone/elseworld's stories, this is what they should be doing in their movies too. Look at Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, or Raimi's Spider-Man, or the original X-Men movies before Fox fell for the meme.

Why Joker? A Mad Love movie would be better. With Maggie.

>>94839552
Warner Brothers and their share holders.
Batman sells, even when they do a terrible job. So they think Batman is the only thing they can do. When Green Lantern failed they thought that the problem was that he wasn't dark or edgy. Those were there exact words, and they promised the sequel would be as such. When Superman Returns underperformed, they didn't think it was due to the fact that it had no original story or that they attached the price tag of the preceding failed attempts at making the movie to it, they thought it wasn't angsty or "real" enough, not like the Nolan movies.

Warner Brothers pushes Batman because he's their money maker.

>>94839501
Brainiac, Reverse-Flash, and Black Manta are all top-tier.

>>94841083
Solo stories like that always feel so empty.

>>94841171
DC's best and most well known stories are one-shots/elseworlds/mini-series/self-contained.

>origin
>joker
What?

>>94837621
>Todd Phillips
>the guy who directed the Hangover movies

Wow, this is going to suck.

>>94839398
wut

W-What if they're making the 3 Joker storyline?

>>94837702

It looks like a Wonderverse will overtake the Batverse if things keep going the way they are. And thank God. I love Bats but let someone else have the spotlight for once. We could've had a proper Superverse but Snyder trashed Superman's image so badly that WB let him appear in Supergirl.

>>94838406
>The easiest way to make sure a character isn't glorified is to make them a racist, a rapist, or both.
I think you underestimate the American audience.

>>94837647
/thread

>>94841577
They should hand over the reigns to Patty, she actually likes these characters. Her favorite movie is Donner Superman.

>>94837621
>Martin Scorsese
>a Joker origin movie
Yeah, right.
Seems like a load of bullshit.

>>94840679
bats

>>94839015
Capeshit in general is pretty shit.

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>>94840715

>>94837820
>Snyderman will never grow into the Blue Boy scout we all know and love
life is suffering.
At least we have Rebirth

>>94837621
Probably a younger Joker with a Red Hood story. I'd prefer them to cast a young actor for this instead of Civil War Young Tony Stark style CGI.

>>94842995
>>Snyderman will never grow into the Blue Boy scout we all know and love
How can he grow when his is canonically 30+?

>>94843076
Superman is canonically 30+.

>>94843134
>Superman is canonically 30+.
No, an adult, mature, boyscout Superman is 30+. Snyder Superman is a childish, insecure, morally struggling 30 year old who couldn't change.

>>94843220
I don't remember many Superman stories from when he was in his 20s.

>couldn't change.
People can't change past 30?

>>94838406
BASED

What kind of dirt do they have on Scorsese? Or has he just given up completely?

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>>94839015
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE MCU BULLIES ARE BEING MEAN TO ME AGAIN MOOOOOOMMYYYYYYYYYY

>>94837621
>Scorcese
My sides. Like getting mel gibson for SS2, right? . Wouldn't mind a solo though, the dceu is a mess besides Wondie, and they can easily keep her sequels set in the past. Damn, wonder if they'll have her getting fucked by Aquaman and killing children in Flashpoint.

>>94843413
>>94843459
He's not directing, just a producer.

>>94843523
I didn't say he was directing.

>>94840679
Scorsese Presents: The Badger

>>94843536
Then why is it so unbelievable to you?

>>94843560
Because he has integrity and clout in Hollywood. He's an actual A List personality, and DC has been struggling not to shit the bed basically ever since The Dark Knight came out. It's like getting Elvis Presly to give your grandma a sponge bath.

>>94843596
Because it's Batman related, who every film maker wants a crack at.

>>94843661
Yeah, like Lindsay Lohan or Miley Cyrus. Look at them now.

>>94843676
huh?

>>94843718
Everyone wanted a crack at them and now they are ruined whores, comparable to Madonna. Batman in cinema is much the same. Everyone is getting a crack. Why would Scorsese debase himself on this bukkake whore of a franchise unless they've got dirt on him?

>>94843676
Except Batman never loses his appeal unlike those two druggy roasties.

>>94843746
>Batman never loses his appeal
TDKR
Batman V Superman DoJ
Arkham Knight video game
Suicide Squad
Batman and Robin
Batman and Harley Quinn
Justice League Dark
Justice League War and I'm stopping there.

>>94843739
Can you get a little more hyperbolic please.

>>94843813
Yes I can, but I don't need to because my analogy fits just fine.

>>94839501
Fuck you Grodd is great.

>>94843808
You're only proving him correct. Even after duds, people still flock to the next Batman franchise. We went from Batman and Robin to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. From one of the worst movies ever made, to the greatest comic book movie ever made.

>>94843808
And yet people still want to be involved in a Batman film.

>>94843835
Your analogy is terrible. Lindsay Lohan and Miley Cyrus never had the appeal Batman has.

>>94843839
>You're only proving him correct
By showing times that Batman lost its appeal? Weird.

>>94843847
Clearly you never saw Mean Girls.

>>94843850
>Clearly you never saw Mean Girls.

I did, and no one remembers it for Lindsay Lohan. She was the worst part of it.

>>94843850
What exactly is losing appeal to you? All of those things made tons of money aside from Batman and Robin.

>>94837870
>remember when
>quotes movie that came out recently enough that fags who liked it shouldn't be on this board
kys

>>94843746
>roasties
confirmed incel reddit poster

>>94843850
I remember it for Rachel McAdams.

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>>94837957
I feel like screening this because it's fucking true. Batman can do anything and everything. Batman can do no wrong. Etc etc. And people call Superman OP.

I used to be a huge Batman fan but honestly seeing it EVERYWHERE has worn me out.

Just give me anyone else.

>>94837621
They're going to do something stupid and then everybody here is going to ignore it in behalf of our sanity.

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Thank god for Marvel movies.

>>94844166
As opposed to the 9 Iron Man movies in the MCU?

>>94844166
Lost it at electric boogaloo.

>>94838347
That won't happen if they want a good box office, TDK showed how we can't have a totally evil Joker instead he was "punishing" evil tendencies most of the time

>>94838122
Sorry Jesus, we couldn't get Moses or Methuselah to direct our bib...i mean capeshit epics.

I guess you're alone in your battle to save the white race.

>>94838157
Red Hood

>>94843919
TDK was almost 10 years ago.

Just kill it.

DCEU was basically stillborn, stop using its corpse as a puppet.

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Just pretend Jeto's joker is Jason Todd and kill him off.

Fuck me, the DCEU is basically a fucking mess. I almost wish that WW would have bombed so they reboot the fucking thing. Snyder really did a fucking number on this franchise.

>>94844961
If you think the failing of the DCEU is on snyder, you are a fucking idiot.

Its very apparent that its the suits at WB, they dont know what to do and what their strengths are, just look at Suicide Squad. They have planned a Shazam movie since MoS and it still hasnt even begun filming.

>>94844961

>Wonder Woman is the most popular character in the DCEU thanks to Snyder fucking up Supes and Bats

It's a weird but kind of cool feel.

>>94844989

>If you think the failing of the DCEU is on snyder, you are a fucking idiot.

Snyder has laid out the visual aesthetic and tone for the rest of the DCEU. People have every right to blame shit on Snyder, BvS was all on him.

>>94844989
It can be both Snyder and the suits at Warner.
I mean, it takes a lot of failures to go "Hey that guy that added zombie fetuses to dawn of the dead would be perfect for Superman!"

>>94844989
>If you think the failing of the DCEU is on snyder, you are a fucking idiot.
He's the one who cast a old ass Batman so he could do a total of 1 story line, skip years of interesting stories just so he can have TDKR Batman for his stupid BvS film.

He's responsible for the tone of the DCEU films. Not only that he's fucking a executive so if you don't think he has influence in casting and everything that goes on at DC I think that's a bit delusional. He's married to a DC exec.

>>94837641
Seems to be a non canon elseworld.

>>94845018
DCEU could easily survive and even thrive off of his visual aesthetic and tone, they just tasked too much and changed their mind too much.

BvS could have just been a retelling of The Dark Knight Returns, but they forced a team up movie with little hints of other characters.

Suicide Squad could have easily been a decent gritty heist movie, but they forced an end of the world scenario and Joker and up beat music.

>>94845097
>DCEU could easily survive and even thrive off of his visual aesthetic and tone,
The Batman movies could. Others not so much.
I don't think you can ever do a Green Lantern movie with his aesthetic.
And as far as Superman goes...well, just look at the reception of his Superman over the last five fucking years.

Casting a 40-50 year old Batman fucked so much up in the long term IMO. You are missing out on so much potential stories you could tell, but Snyder had to have a TDKR Batman.

It's so frustrating. Plus they need another Superman film just to bring him back to being Superman, since Snyder's Superman isn't really a close tie to the Superman everyone loves.

At least they have WW and Harley Quinn.

Just pretend that Leto's joker was Jason Todd have Nightwing take over as Batman or something. Fuck who knows.

>>94845158
>and Harley Quinn.
no thank you

>>94845097

>DCEU could easily survive and even thrive off of his visual aesthetic and tone

His aesthetic is poison to this universe, all the fire and smoke shit looks fucking awful and infected the third act of Wonder Woman.

And the tone only works for Batman.

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>the failing of the DCEU
Everytime I come here it's like I'm transported to an alternate dimension or something. They can't use Leto because Leto is like 50 years old and you can't make an origin story if the character is that old. Nevermind it ha "fake news" written all over it

>>94845376

>but they made money!

And they could have made more if they were good.

Also, Transformers, Adam Sandler movies, etc.

>DC decides to do elseworlds
>it's this shit
Give me RED SON
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>94839052

How is Flashpoint "stupid" exactly? Comic storylines never get adapted 1:1. All we know is basically gossip about the film at this stage.

>>94839052
Just like Civil War so comic accurate, right?

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>>94845447
>Also, Transformers, Adam Sandler movies, etc.
Forgetting something buddy?

>>94845473
>How is Flashpoint "stupid" exactly?
It is stupid because Flash isn't established, and Flashpoint is a bad place to start him off in. The same way BvS was a bad place for Batman to be re-introduced.

>>94845569

>Oscars as a metric of quality

o i am laffin

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Let's get some facts stragith: Flashpoint won't be a reboot unless you're dumb enough to believe they'll go with a Martha Joker and a Comedian/Negan Batman for the rest of the cinematic universe. This Joker movie is nothing but more unsourced rumour from a literal whom'st. Wonder Woman humilliated Marvel's Batman v. Superman (inb4 le civil war meme). /co/rvel has proven to be nothing but a bunch of drooling retards in the recent past, and they'll deny they ever said Thor Ragnarok was going to make more than JL just like they deny having said that Doctor Strange was going to make more than Suicide Squad

>>94837621
Jon Voight's ballsack...

>>94845515
Literally what does that have to do with what he said?

the joker's in the DC movie-verse are actually aspects of the three faced amazon god of laughter.

Denny O'Neil couldn't make a Joker solo comic work, what makes these douchebags think they can make a solo Joker movie work?

>>94845583
>It is stupid because Flash isn't established

That's what Justice League is for.

>Flashpoint is a bad place to start him off in.

Not really, it's actually a clever way to do the origin without being a blatantly an origin movie.

>>94845920
>Denny O'Neil couldn't make a Joker solo comic work

That's a serialization issue, since status quo is king and he can't really achieve anything due to being a villain. Solitary origin story is entirely different.

>>94845956
>That's what Justice League is for.
I am sorry, but do you seriously believe Flash is going to get enough screen time in a JL movie?

This is unfathomable. All the more impossible since JL need to introduce Cyborg too. What, you expect the film would be 3 hours long with ANOTHER extended edition for DVD?

>>94846019
>I am sorry, but do you seriously believe Flash is going to get enough screen time in a JL movie?

Enough to establish basic things ab4out him. Solo movies are for expanding and Flashpoint is just as good place to do it, since it's theorically still all about restoring a timeline. And it works well as a way to explain why Barry won't just timetravel all the time to fix shit.

>>94846039
>Enough to establish basic things ab4out him.
What, you mean like the way it went with Suicide Squad where there is barely any time spent on any of the members except Deadshot?

JL is already overload. It is laughable to think Flash would get time in JL, and even more laughable in Flashpoint where the Waynes and alt-world Diana are likely going to steal even more time from him.

If you don't think Flash can carry a movie on his own, just say so.

>>94846156

>What, you mean like the way it went with Suicide Squad where there is barely any time spent on any of the members except Deadshot?

I like how Suicide Squad was so poorly written it couldn't even give every character their prerequisite "one badass moment" that every team film has.

>>94845473
>>94845515
All I'm saying is that WB is dumb enough to sabotage their own success by taking the star of their one DCEU movie people actually liked, and make her an edgelord villain. Don't believe me? Just look up all the bullshit surrounding the Arkham games.

And don't you dare talk to me about elseworlds, not when this very board gleefully takes out of context panels from non-canon materials to talk shit about characters. I don't wanna fucking hear it from you lot.

>>94841679
>donnerman
meh

>>94837932
>>94838134
>>94837795
>>94837891
>elseworlds movies
FUCKING HYPPPEEEEEEEEE

>>94838572
>>94838604
Joker origin version of the usual suspects would be godtier

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>>94837820

About an hour after I left the theatre I was overwhelmed by the many, many illogical inconsistencies in the movie and came up with this set of images, a few of which I've seen reposted a few times over the years.

http://imgur.com/a/0k7ZQ

There's just such an intolerable foundation to this version of the character that it's inconceivable that one could build anything worthwhile atop it.

Snyderlards on suicide watch.

wait wait wait

what if its after flashpoint and joker is girl?

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>>94837621
>origin story
>more like stories
>it's an anthology like pic related

>>94845584

>Oscars aren't a metric of quality
>Money isn't a metric quality

What is then? Meme Tomatoes?

>>94846619

None of that shit in the image actually happened in their fight

I think Leto was actually fine in Suicide Squad.

>>94846960

That's why it's a man of murder meme. Truth doesn't matter anymore anyway.

>>94838994
Racism is cool and rebellious now, though. It triggers evil sjws. Normies eat that shit up.

>>94840830
>not some bald older guy using gauntlets to steal the life force of people so he can live longer,
thats the cartoon

>>94840830
>Yeah he's supposed to be a anti-hero father trying to make money for his family

That was the characterization in Millar's Spider-man, although there Vulture was doing crime to provide for his grandchild with leukemia since the parents couldn't afford the money for treatment.

So DC is doing an elseworlds Joker origin story that isn't connected to their cinematic universe.

What is the point?
To try and get another oscar or something

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>>94837621
>Joker Origin
>Origin

They should make a Mr. Freeze origin movie instead. One where Batman is the antagonist.

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So do we get to watch Jason die?

>>94846925
that would be cool actually

>>94838038
Joker has had canon origins though. Even The Killing Joke has a Joker origin that throws one line maybe questioning it. This avoidance of Joker origins is something very modern that started in the 00s.

>>94843413
Read the article, it says he's waiting for the script to decide how involved he wants to be. This isn't much different from many other news about how important filmmakers are totally getting into capes, guyse. Remember when Mel Gibson was totally going to direct Suicide Squad 2?

>>94846943
It's always a mixed bag of things. Did you enjoy the movie? Do others? Was it well received critically, do you disagree with the critics? Did it attract the people's attention enough to call it a success? Was it a deserved success based on quality or just plain lowest common denominator appeal?

There's no secret formula to determine officially what's a good movie and what isn't. Oscars count sure ain't one. The fucking Grinch won an Oscar. But even if we want to consider them an important factor, there's Oscars and Oscars, that 1 for DC is Suicide Squad I'm guessing, and that Oscar was specifically for makeup and hairstyles, so tell me how a coiffeur award demonstrates the movie was all around well written, directed, acted and edited?

>>94847729
In comic book movies make up and costume design are relevant categories because part of the characterization is how they look like. If you fuck up Harley Quinn's make up, you fuck up Harley Quinn and I don't give a fuck if she's quoting Shakespeare the entire movie. Same can be applied to period movies, Barry Lyndon is masterpiece among other things because the make up and costume design was brilliant. Just because you're a fanboy of a piece of shit franchise that can't win in a category doesn't mean that category is a meme, or that all the awards are memes because they can't win anything at all

Sucide Squad was shit but Harley Quinn is now a popular icon when she wasn't before, how she looked like is one of the main reasons why

>>94846925
but the third one and the first one are the same

>>94847846
I understand that. But the movie was still shit and i hate that fanboys keep hiding behind a secondary Oscar in order to deny it. Plus again, makeup and hairstyles, it wasn't even costumes, but i agree Harley looked good. I mean, i wish we could go back to the classic costume already, but as an alternative SS was one of the better ones

>>94847846
Wait no, let me rephrase that, i don't understand you because you're clearly just another contrarian or company warrior. "Fanboy of a piece of shit franchise", really?

>>94847904
But I said "Suicide Squad was shit" in the next sentence, does that look like contrarian or company warring? It's just it's usually MCU fanboys claiming that oscars are memes because the MCU is so great and RT scores are much better except when they aren't and shit like that. But I insist, Suicide Squad was really, really bad

>>94847935
But oscars ARE a meme. This is /co/, we've had hundreds of threads about how the Academy unfairly dismisses anything /co/-related because hurr they're not mature movies, about how voting members openly ignore entries and just vote what's popular or what their kids said was cool, i won't ignore all of that crap and start taking them seriously just to please the contrarians' mindset that no Oscars for MCU = MCU is the worst

>>94838102
It's sad how likely this will be.

>>94838240
Sounds pretty good.