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Jason Todd should have been a villain. He was a shit Robin and

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Jason Todd should have been a villain. He was a shit Robin and is is a shit superhero, but when he was fighting Dickbats he actually had depth and was interesting.
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>>94830011
Is he trying to be like The Punisher?
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I wouldn't say villain, but for sure antihero.
Ya know still trying to do good but willing to go dark or lethal.
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>>94830011

Awkward autistic angsty Jason is best Jason. He's a badass but he's not that edgy and you can bully him.
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>>94830011
There isn't a whole lot od depth to being a literal red headed step-child.
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>>94830011
reminder that Jason outsells Namor.
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>>94830011
What happen to his sidekick?
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>>94830011
These were my least favorite issues of the Morrison run, though.
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>>94830011
Villain Jason is literally the worst ever. God forbid we have some meaningful character development in capeshit.
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>>94830095
Of course, He is the most popular robin and he is batman background characters.
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>>94830166
Dick is more popular than Jason.
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>>94830059
Only Artemis can bully him. She has dibs.
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>>94830166
>most popular robin
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>>94830183
>you will never bully jason
>artemis will never bully you
>bizarro will never fly around with you riding on his shoulders

It's not fair.
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>>94830207
and
>he had artemis
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>Reminder that Jason Todd wore the Red Robin moniker and costume 1st in mainstream DC
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>>94830011
He's really popular now as Bat-teenage rebel, his two full villain comic stories were dogshit, Arkham Knight had a dogshit story and you're objectively wrong, OP.
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at least Todd got some closure with a Joker
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>>94830011
Lucky for you New Earth Red Hood is coming back,
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>Lazarus Pit white streak Jason Todd is best version
>Hush-Todd costume best variation
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>>94830011
Being an Jason Todd fan is like being in the kids next door. Once you turn 20 you no longer have the urge to jack off and defend Jason with your life anymore. You grow up and realize he gay loser.
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>>94830676
>You grow up and realize he gay loser.
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I don't know what more pathetic. People hating fictional characters or people hating fans over fictional characters.
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>>94830011
>shit Robin
He took down Mogul, you little tard.
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>>94830702
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>>94830709
why no both ?
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>>94830709
People who makes this kind of threads.
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>>94830011
>that helmet with that costume
Why did they think he could pull it off?
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>>94830743
Never get why people are so adamant on saying Jason is a rebel.
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>>94830921
Maybe because he thinks some criminals need killing? And was implied to have once pushed a rapist to his death even before he died and was resurrected?
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>>94830943
The Batgirl we need.
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Whoever this "Jason Todd" is, he must be really something to have a very triggered haters like that (that storytime thread is something lmao).

I'm going to google him and I have a feeling that I'm going to like him a lot.
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>>94830059
>>94830011
Look at all that edge. Why having a multifaceted character with development when you can have your angry histrionic, one note villain of the week, eh?

Awful teenager taste.
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>best batman
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>>94831036
Oh, I never meant to quote >>94830059

And for the record, I know what the OP is doing. This thread is not going to last, son. Tomorrow is a big day.
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>>94830814
In an old fashioned colorful villain, which I guess was the point, is a very nice costume.
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>>94830011
But then who will pander to Tumblr's Rebelious bad boy fetish?
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>>94830943
The guy was going to leave the country scot-free, he already caused the death of at least one victim and he was going to continuing raping with impunity.

I would've do the same, to be honest. It didn't look like he was going to repent at all.
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>>94831158
Your favorite robin
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>>94830011
Wasn't he already a villain?
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>>94830323
Dick had the RR monkier too
I can see a pattern
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>>94831070
''tomorrow is a big day''
>BANE ?
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>>94830983
Oh trust me, you will enjoy being his fan.

I'm glad that he become my favorite because his antis are really hilarious.
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>>94831070
>I know what OP is doing
What am I doing? Jason has had two main writers for decades, Judd Winick and Scott Lobdell. Both two of the worst writers in comics, then Morrison got his hands on him and made him a legitimate character.
>Tomorrow is a big day
What's tomorrow?
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>>94831397
This guy actually putting effort. I'm impressed.

Btw, who is playing injustice here? Red Hood is so fun and really op that you can destroy Black Adam with him.
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>>94831482
He is a great match against Deadshot too.
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>>94831578
They actually referred ma gunn? This pretty awesome.
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>>94831273
For you.
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>>94831611
Ma Gunn, All-Caste, Scarlett and even Bob.
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>>94831397
Come on, anon. At least be more subtle. People is hardly going to fall for your bait and let this thread survive Wednesday, which is the day we storytime new issues that just got released.
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>>94831611
They've attended to detail a lot, as far as I've seen.
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>>94831482
I really like how they put Jason's icon on the center.
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>>94830011

I dunno I prefer crazy yet caring (and super depressed/angry) anti-hero or anti-villain but not a straight up villain.
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>>94831729
Neat. It's good place to put him between Batman and Superman considering his ideology.
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>>94831662
I seriously have no idea what you think I'm doing. Jason is an angsty whiney brat under Lobdell and Winnick
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>>94830550
>Lucky for you New Earth Red Hood is coming back,

THANK GOD!

Oh no he's not gonna be a ginger Rorschach rip off (who was designed like that just to piss off another writer) is he?

Also I don't care how many say he had red hair in the old comics. He was clearly strawberry blonde and then blonde and then had black hair.
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>>94831930
I liked blonde Jason.

From where did come this weird idea that new earth red hood is coming back, anyway?
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>>94831998
Some people are convinced that the creepy dude who is stalking Jason going to be him (I think it's actually Willis).
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>>94830011
>but when he was fighting Dickbats he actually had depth and was interesting.

Confirmed for not reading anything else about Jason Todd.
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Jason is cute

I wish more artists gave him a bit of white hair
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>>94832060
Willis Todd? Heh, this would be an interesting storyline to be honest.
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Jason Todd is love. Jason Todd is life.
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>>94830943
Fake news! That rapist fell off that balcony dammit!
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>>94832150
>94832150
pray for jason and his slut artemis
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I actually really like Red Hood's Vigilante suit from Morrison's run. Wish they'd make it.

They could reintroduce Scarlet again, as it could fit with Jason's arc of him trying to out do batman at this own shtick. But since New52 Jason != Pre52 Jason, he'd be a better father figure to her rather than the, what I felt was; a weird almost pedophilic tough love father figure. Also having Artemis as a big amazon mom and Bizzaro as a retarded brother would really also tie the family dynamic Rebirth RHATO has had.

The balding red head acne thing was also unnecessary, was really dumb and made me hate Jason for a bit
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>>94832060
>(I think it's actually Willis).

I agree.

Oh man I didn't realize that people were talking about the mystery guy. I thought people were talking about some sort of universe crossover thing.
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>>94832228
>rather than the, what I felt was; a weird almost pedophilic tough love father figure.

I kind of felt this too, except replace pedophilic with sexual tension and an age-gap because I never thought Scarlet was underage.
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>>94832060
If it is New Earth RH, that'd be cool too.

I don't see NE RH the same as Nu52 RH. They have no personality traits in common and their daddy issues are on two different sides of the spectrum.

Could also be a RH Reborn situation, or a redemption arc.
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>>94832396
I thought she was 16, but that be Ephebophilic Jason then. I agree with the sexual tension though.

Also I don't remember seeing that panel in Batman and Robin, is that from another series? He has a jacket on and a more form fitting helmet.

>>94832247
Hey, stop taking images of Red Hood covers like me! I'm avatar fagging here!
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>>94830011
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Red Hood was the weaker part of Morrison's Dickbats story.
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>>94831482
>>94831578
Y'know, I was about to complain that Artemis isn't in Injustice, but then I realized that's probably s good thing. I mean, look at what Boon did to Diana. I don't even want to think of how awful Artemis would be in these games, especially since she's supposed to be Diana's edgy rival in the first place.
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>>94832426
>Could also be a RH Reborn situation
He doesn't need it and this is completely unnecessary.

Pre-52 Jason was already redeemed in convergence.
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>>94830030
basically a punisher clone
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>>94830011
Todd was actually a fun Robin, when you reread his tenure as the sidekick. His street smarts even save Batman every once in a while.
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>>94832900
I wonder if people who keep saying that ever read the punisher comic.
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>>94832997
Of course they didn't. They wouldn't call Red Hood a punisher lite if they did.
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>>94832150
Are you the Kuron prayer anon from the voltron threads?
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>>94832997
what's so different about them?
other than the fact that RH has daddy issues while Punisher has issues with his entire family getting gunned down around him
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>>94833097
>what's so different about them?
Oh I don't know, anon. Literally everything?

The only thing they have in common is their willingness to cross the line and that doesn't make them "clone" of each other.
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>>94832228
Current team dynamics make Jason the team mom rather than team dad.

I liked Morrison's costume, too. It was fitting for his take in the character.
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>>94833097
For one thing, body count.
Off the top of your head, how many times can you remember Red Hood killing someone that wasn't a nameless crook? How many times did he just end up sending someone to jail instead of killing them?
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had an idea about a Nightwing comic series where he and Jason are working the same case of a guy who keeps breaking out of jail and killing with Jason convincing Dick to straight up kill the guy

the whole thing would lead them back to Gotham where they plan to take out the Joker, culminating in a huge fight with Bruce and Tim (because fuck Damien) and he brings in a recently reparalyzed Barbara in to try and talk some sense into Dick but instead she takes the chance to shoot Joker, executioner style, for what he did to her and her father. it ends with Batman telling them to get out before he has them all arrested
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>>94833232
Jasonfags.“Youre opinion is trash, Jason Todd has the worst fan base of all time, that includes every genre.
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>>94833097
Jason operates against the law most of the times, and is willing to cross the criminal line, and sometimes is even totally right with it.

Frank isnt.

Jason is a funny-go guy, even when he has an emotional burst which ends in violence.

Frank is Mr Serious guy all the gay.

Jason is shown many times to forgive a repent criminal.

Frank is Mr Punisher guy.
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>>94833307
jason >>> frakn fpunisher
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>>94832808
I didn't know that, what convergance issue was it?

>>94833201
>Artemis is the team dad
She's even slightly taller than him
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>>94833307
>all the gay

Oh dear, I cannot get how I failed at typing that one.
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>>94833343
In Jay's defense, she's wearing heels. Jason is about the same height (both are pretty tall). She's still more, I don't know, thick, I guess. At least by how Soy draws Art.
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>>94830011
He does what Joker should of did to this snot nose brat years ago .
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>>94833343
>with heels the shoes .. nice try
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Gotta give it to Castle...He's more ruthless. Frank has dodged bullets multiple times and has proven himself to be superior to Jason Todd.
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>>94833524
>more edgy ?
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>>94833307
Jason is the second to worst fighter of the Robins right over Tim Drake.
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>>94833574
Nice b8 m8.

Try harder next time.
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>>94833462
Definitely Frank. He's got the edge in experience and he's a lot more ruthless than what Jason's used to dealing with.Punisher lays waste to this wannabe vigilante and Frank just continues kicking his ass into the ground.
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>>94833462
This fucking arc.
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>>94833636
>>94833462
>>94833524
Uh is this anon ok? Their posts don't make any sense.
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>>94833666
Just ignore him/her or whatever.

>>94833343
Batman and Robin: fathers and sons
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>>94833462
marvel fag
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>>94833700
>Just ignore him/her or whatever.
Jasonfag.Not Again.I can’t reply anymore. I’m losing brain cells. Obvious troll .Dark_Tzitzimine
is obvious .
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>>94833923
Nice. Who is the artist?
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>>94833893
marvel fag , go to bed
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>>94830011
>he actually had depth
>as a villain

Almost by definition villains don't have depth. Not as much as anti-villains and anti-heroes, which is what Jason Todd is when not written by Grant Morrison. Until I read up on his portrayal of Mirror Master in Animal Man I just assumed that Grant simply did not get that a character could be anything other than black or white. His portrayal of Jason Todd and Magneto convinced me of this.
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>>94830011
best boy and batman
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>>94831613
tell me about anon
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>>94832900
>>94833700
>>94830077
the Trinity is back
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>>94833666
Ignore them.
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>>94833923
That's some pretty stuff. Is this for a variant cover, or just a commission? I don0t think it was made for fun. Name of the artist?
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>>94833962
>>94834889
A commision by Marcio Takara

https://twitter.com/marcio_takara/status/899833947080839168
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>>94833923
i like the background
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>>94834915
Thanks a bunch, anon.
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>Batfags will defende this
WEW FUCKING LAD
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>>94833923
>>94834915

He also has a small clip of him doing some of the inked lines.

https://twitter.com/marcio_takara/status/898628418631118848

Watching this stuff is pretty calming, is there any other marvel/dc artists that post stuff like this?
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>>94834970
> batman loves joker
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BATMAN LOVES JOKER MORE THAN HIS ROBINS
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>>94831397
>What am I doing? Jason has had two main writers for decades, Judd Winick and Scott Lobdell. Both two of the worst writers in comics, then Morrison got his hands on him and made him a legitimate character.


At this point Lobdell has written him longer than Winnick and if you're counting his entire publication history you have to count Max Allan Collins and Jim Starlin as well.

Speaking of, there's a rumor that Winnick was in fact the one who came with the Outlaws pitch but his approach was too edgy for editorial (his pitch included Roy burning a rapist alive) who decided to bring Lobdell on board
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I like the idea of Wingman and Redbird as a sort of X-Force to the Bat family, doing the dirty jobs too unpalatable for Bruce, Dick
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>>94833232
That is some truly terrible fanfiction.
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>>94830149
>meaningful character development
From who, Jason Todd? He's been pretty inconsistent in actual characterization since his resurrection.
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>>94830273
Oh so this is panel that shows Jason was a child prostitute.
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>>94830550
>Lucky for you New Earth Red Hood is coming back,
What? Sauce?
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>>94830011
I'm gonna guess you're a Dickfag who wanted him as an archenemy foil to Dick. Which is fair enough but if you actually like Jason as a character that's a pointless dead end role.
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>>94830743
>this is supposed to be Jason Todd
He looks like Roy Harper, which make sense because Roy and Jason are actually the same character.
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>>94836150
>because Roy and Jason are actually the same character
#savage
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>>94836170
They're both not-Dick.
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>>94835499
I can see it going:
>Dark shit from Damian's past he doesn't want the BatFam to know resurfaces
>Dark shit from Jason's past he wants to finally put to rest resurfaces
>Its somehow connected
>Team up, clash a ton
>Over time win each others respect
>But not enough for the banter to dissapear
>Jason becomes something of a mentor to Damian on moving past old sins.
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>>94836147
Nope, I'm a Stephenie Brown fan
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>>94836306
I'll let you off then you've had a rough decade.
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Don't mind me, just posting the best Red Hood costume.
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>>94836648
Then why didn't you posted it anon?
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>>94834996
I don't know. I've seen Jorge Jimenez share chips and pics in his instagram, but I don't know if he has shared actual videos. I don't know of more comic artist who do so, but Yusuke Murata (One-Punch Man) usually streams his work under the alias NEBU_KURO.
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>>94836782
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>>94835499
I honestly are still waiting for the eventual team up of Damian and Jason in some story arc.
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>>94836648
Jason doesn't have a fucking bad costume, I swear.
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>>94836782
>tacticool hoodie
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>>94836782
Is Jason barred from getting a costume that doesn't look like it was drawn by a 14 year old
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>>94830011
It doesn't make any sense at all to me for Batman to be at all *okay* with what Jason is doing. The writer's attempt at justifying it was stupid. That being said, he was already way more interesting in Under the Red Hood when he was still at odds with Batman
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>>94832426
>I don't see NE RH the same as Nu52 RH. They have no personality traits in common and their daddy issues are on two different sides of the spectrum.

Honestly I thought they were supposed to be sort of the same person (I mean we don't know exactly what's canon or not) and the reason Jason seems so different is.....because he's fucking crazy.

>>94832502

Isn't 16 legal in most places?

Also screw you buddy! I love Jason Todd enough to post covers too! And I'm not even trying to be an Avatar fag and I got most of my images from google! Good taste though.
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>>94837066
>>Character is called Red HOOD
>>Complain about his HOOD

Fucks sake man I know it's not the best design but pick your battles.
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>>94837418
And if your head wasn't so deep up your ass, you'd know that neither Joker as Red Hood, nor Jason's original design had any sort of a hood, the Hood part of the name referred to the helmet.
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>>94837742
I'm well aware of that, but if you expect the (much needed as opposed to tuxedo, oblong helmet, and cape) updated designs for the character to not have it you've got your head clear up to your colon m8.
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>>94837872
>much needed as opposed to tuxedo, oblong helmet, and cape
Well, now I know you've been there so long that all the shit really got to your taste.
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>>94837907
I only ever liked it when Mignola drew it. Otherwise the helmet always seemed laughably tall.
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>>94836279
>implying Jason isn't unintentionally making Damien worse
>that his willingness to kill unintentionally digs up Damien's trigger-happy attitude over killing
>an attitude Dick and Bruce have been trying to suppress for years
>Damien eventually breaks and becomes the leader of the League of Shadows as an adult
>Jason understands how Batman feels, and he and Bruce truly reconcile
>Jason comes back to the Batfam, and only kills when necessary
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>>94838029
>Jason comes back to the Batfam, and only kills when necessary
This is basically Jason right now
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>>94830175
>83 kill count
amateur
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Even Morrison disagrees with you which is why he redeemed Jason in Inc
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>>94830011
i like red pill helmet more than his current one.
Not sure about the rest of the costume though. Maybe give the skull some batwings that would be very metal
and lose the cape and give him a fancy dinner jacket
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>>94837097
yes
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>>94839217
He needs to be hot enough to sell.
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>>94838842
The fans whined enough
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>>94839514
In other words, OP is a faggot with shit taste.
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>>94835499
Eh, even if Jason is my favorite i think Damian works better with Dick
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>>94839584
>In other words, OP is a faggot with shit taste.
How is that different from any other thread on 4 Chan?
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>>94834970

Who actually defends this?
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>>94830273

I KNEW there was a panel/page where it was implied that Jason sold his body!
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>>94830011
That is such a stupid fucking costume.

It looks likes it has feathers.

God Quietly can't design a costume for shit.
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>>94830185
Red Hood Most requested DLC charact r for Injustice
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>>94840680
You can frame it and put it next to the bit where he refuses to talk about his sexual abuse.
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>>94830578
Yes.
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>>94830743
Roy Harper got swole
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>>94830256

Was this the same story where Jason turned into a tentacle monster?
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>>94831930
Not the mention thof garbage Killing Joke homage.

That arc existed only to piss off Alan Moore and Jason Todd fans
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>>94841030

Uh...well now I at least got another panel to show when people ask about it.

I wish Jason was there for me and "spooked" those men who hurt me and my friends.
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>>94837418
>>94837742
>>94837872
>>94837907

I honestly thought the hood part of red hood was meant to say that he's a hoodlum in red, and not because he had to have a hood. But then again, I grew up with men in tights/disney renditions of Robin Hood, who didn't wear a hood when he was robbing from the rich.
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>>94830525
>that last panel
kek.
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