What is people's beef with Kirbopher aka Chris Niosi. A

>>94741366
He's okay as a person, his content is hit or miss.

>>94741366
General dickishness. I've heard stories but they're not mine to tell.

>>94741366
I've only heard bad things about him, mainly that he always plays the victim whenever he gets in deep shit that he caused.

Also TOME is one of the worst internet cartoons ever.

also he self inserted himself in said series, but that's only a small fraction of the problems the series has.

>>94742803
TOME isn't the worst. It's pretty funny. It laid down a solid three act story and had great voice talent.

And his self-insert is because the series was based on his own experience with forum spammers?

What problems is he played victim at?

>>94743641
>It laid down a solid three act story
How about you shut the fuck up, just because it laid down a three act story doesn't mean that it still wasn't chock full of shit, it is so fucking bad, as an animator it just makes me angry to make me think about, it's so bad that i have even taken nots on how bad it is, and there's 20 pages worth of notes too, mainly to do reviews on but that besides the point, it is still the worst thing i have ever gazed upon and it pains me that no one ever talked shit about how shit is was.

And all the people who did talk shit about it, namely oney, psychic pebbles and Spazkid all apologized for it, the only one who didn't end up apologizing for his critisisms on it was egoraptor, which is why i still have some respect for him

I FUCKING HATE THIS SERIES WITH ALL OF IT'S ANIMATION SHORT CUTS, TEXTBOXES, LONG TEDIOUS AMOUNTS OF EXPOSITION, SHITTY ANIME RIPOFFS OR "REFERENCES" AS HE LIKES TO CALL THEM, AN EXTREMELY SHITTY ENDING AND A RETARDED CONFLICT WITH THE VILLIAN, AND ALL OF THE EDGYNESS IT IT, AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THAT ABYSMAL LIVE ACTION ENDING

>>94741366
>Since he's a regular in OK KO!
I didn't know that. Good for him

>>94741366
It's because he didn't create Brawl Taunts 4 probably.

>>94741366
I knew he did some shit on Newgrounds back in the day. Didn't know he apparently moved up in the world.

>>94744509
Holy shit, dude. What crawled up your ass and died?

>>94744509
Isn't it that the point?

>>94742803
>TOME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaj1IVy4IFI
Who watched this on purpose? Are there people that desperate for validation of their D&D habit?

>>94741366
people have beef because THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR HIS COLLEGE!

>>94745203
*their JRPG habit

>>94744835
>Holy shit, dude. What crawled up your ass and died?

Kirbopher.

You see, back in the day, his flash animated movies were something i loved as a young one, he was inspiration to me artisticaly and made me further pursue an artistic education. I looked up to him, i really did, years later when i was more educated i stumbled upon TOME, not knowing that he was the creator of those same movies i have a child like nostoliga for, and it just angered me to no end to find out that the person i looked up to when i was a kid made this abysmal series, it makes me glad, that i've grown from the child i once was, but it still angers me that kribopher is still shit.

Hell, he made this series AFTER he was done with art college, I would have passed this series off as just something else if it was just something bad and be done with it, but with the knowlege that he has an education for this shit makes me even more mad at all of the shortcuts he takes and stuff like that.

Also he got blacklisted from Tit mouse for being an ass on a tour of the place.

>>94745235
There's also this, him begging for people money for said art college which he ended up not even needing all that money because his parents ended up paying for it all anyways.

>>94741366
I personally didn't enjoy TOME all that much, did enjoy that he was able to do it as a love letter to TVtome Adventures and he got some good VA's to help him with it. I will also admit i liked the music

Good for him on getting in on O.K.K.O. I haven't been following the series at all but it's nice to see a guy I followed on Newgrounds succeeding.

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>>94744509

Jesus, who hurt you Anon?

>>94744509
New copypasta

>>94741366
http://cailencrow.tumblr.com/post/149322977286/publicly-acknowledging-your-wrongdoings-the#notes

it's word salad but basically; Kirbs an asshat that Trump'd his way to where he is

Hate that he did it, respect cause it WORKED

>>94745284
Any proof of his blacklisting from Titmouse?

And what's wrong with TOME in your perspective?

>>94745357
TOME isn't a great series but it does have it's moments. And it has great personal writing. Deven Mack put a lot of character into Rockoon and it was heartwarming and add a lot of character development.

>>94745590
yeah TOME did have it's moments, for me it was pretty much any scene with Rockoon or Nylocke! DRAGON OF HIDING TEXT ON IMAGEBOARDS in it

his animation is shitty and so is the stories he tells.

>>94741366
I wish i kept the source so it wouldn't sound like I'm making shit up, but I remember hearing he is well known amongst VAs because he will always suck up to anyone with higher popularity or rank, then immediately jump to another the moment he gets a spot somewhere else and shittalk whoever helped him beforehand if necessary.

basically, he is the guy who will happily throw anyone under the bus if it means to propel him up the ladder.

>>94741366
I hate him because he's a huge cunt AND a suck up to anyone with more influence than him. It's why he's managed to succeed; he's a chronic flatterer to his superiors.

I hate his work because it's terrible. Like seriously, the dude can't write.

>>94746081
Where was this source?

>>94746456
How does he suck up?

>>94745590
>Any proof of his blacklisting from Titmouse?
Sadly no, i don't have any proof, just a lot of people talking about it, I know that him eating a beagle very obnoxiously was a main connecting point in all of these stories, but no solid hard evidence in my internet diggings.

and there is way too much for me to point out in every episode for me to put it into one post, but i did do a pretty good job of all of the main things that made me mad in my big rant up above.

I will admit that >>94745694 is right saying that these characters were good, episode 6 of TOME is the only one i can really admit is fairly well done and even good.

>>94746081
Also this, I've heard many times that he's just a huge dick rider, i've no solid evidence, but with how he got more and more famous voice actors for his series, even getting some of the original voice actors from .hack at the very end, i can believe it to be true.

Does anyone have proof of Kirbopher brown-nosing? Because that sounds like the reason he got the talent even though he worked with them since TTA.

>>94744764
There's a brawl taunts 3?

Man I only remembered him as that dude who did the banjo threeie flash

>>94746865
Are The Fallout Shelter forums archived anywhere?

>>94747374
Why? Is Kirb involved in em?

>>94747447
Yeah, he was. He was a real fucking suckup back then.

>>94743641
Hi Kirb, how's Runka Chunk

>>94747904
I'm not Kirb. But Kira was great to work with too. I'm glad to work with both of them.

>>94748279
Wait, who the hell are you then? Some one who was involved with TOME or something else?

>>94748332
Someone else. I'm not telling you who I am but I did had the privilege to direct Kirb, Kira and several other TOME alumni on my own projects.

>>94748279
>admitting to your bias
>expecting anyone to take your opinion seriously

Come on, man.

>>94748630
I was also greatful that Kirb drew my character Diva Dynomite, who will be voiced by Jackie Florian (aka Anneva in TOME).

>>94741366
>arin has made so much money off of his LPs that he has an enormous fan base that doesn't even know about his egoraptor days
>kira has gone from voicing amateur flash parodies of video games to being in the actual video games, even being the main character
>kirbopher is still scraping by from various oddjobs, never really getting the big breakthrough he wants

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>>94748710
...yeah.

I don't trust your opinions, man. Not when you draw like this.

>>94748889
Those are pre-dated concept sketches.

But here's an example of a frame by frame animation I did: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4h9gpxjgrWXeVNwblp6WXRJWmlwdGxqX2I4NjRnWGhHc3BF

>>94748742
You can hear Arin as Gateaux on Mighty Magiswords.

I wouldn't say he's scraping oddjobs because he's now part of SAG and is a regular voice artist. He's also working on a Kickstarter for a TOME game adaption.

>>94749001
...Am I supposed to be impressed or something? Your art is generally awful and your character concepts are...well, they don't instill much confidence in your ability to actually critically analyze the stuff you read and watch.

>>94748710
Y-you know that name was the one dee dee used when she was a super hero right?

Also according to this>>94748889
your art is worse than kirbophers

>>94749001
And this animation isn't very good either, very messy for something that's supposed to look like a simple kick.

>>94748579
And now that you've spilled the beans on all of these projects that you've worked on, could you please go into more details of what these project are and maybe a little bit more about kirb himself?

>>94749160
www.vgfacts.com/forums/thread-3798.html

He's just some doof who doesn't study and pays people to make stuff for him.

>>94749160
Diva DynOmite. Not Dynamite.

And I'd like to see you do better. I'm not perfect but others actually like my work.

I can't give much away but there Flash cartoons for my channel in the works. Kirb was great though. He handled my direction very good.

>>94744509
I see another ex-Fireball20xl fan.

>>94749222
Actually, I did all of those art myself. And I used Preston Blair as a reference.

I'd like to see your art though.

>>94749160
Fireball20xl brought me to websites that landed me here.

>>94749278
I never seen the site myself. But I hear it was good back in the day. Too bad it's gone now. I watched TTA on Newgrounds.

>>94749255
>And I'd like to see you do better.
Not them, but if you're going to act like a little bitch and pull that card, try me.

Go ahead.
Throw up one of your pieces so I can take a crack at it.

>>94749307
Too bad about Psy being a pedophile and his entire possie backing him up tho.

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>>94749279
k

>>94749374
Marry who?

>>94749390
sanic, who else

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>>94749307
In its heyday, it had alot of talented people working on the site with Psy himself being the prime reason why the site withstood the test of time.

It had a variety of media. Comics, Music, Animations and a fun community.

Ironically, it was because of Psy the website died. His pedophilia being the reason why many of his members turned on him and it imploded.

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>>94749255
What? like a better kick?

Well, I don't have the time to animate something like that, so here's something from a persona 5 animation i've been working on of Kamoshida round housing the MC.

This whole little animation took me about 2 hours to make.

>>94749278
I've actually never followed any of there works.

>>94749424
Can't justify Psy. But I liked him as Shogun in TOME.

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>>94749462
whoops, forgot to set it to animated.

>>94749462
It's not playing.

>>94749486
Christ, this looks like The Dewd's artwork.

...please tell me you're not Dewd.

>>94749486
Nicely done.

>>94749486
That doesn't even look like either character you said it was.

>>94749556
Eh, probably because flash messed up the colors.

that and i draw in a more cartoony artstyle.

>>94749577
No. No, that's not the problem here at all. This isn't cartooning, it's just drawing completely different characters, strapping on ancillary elements, and then saying it's a character from a popular work.

That character has literally none of Kamoshida's facial features, nor any sort of abstraction of them. It doesn't look like him at all in any way.

>>94749483
Psy is a piece of shit, but some of the content he helped produce was hilarious. Which included "Super Freaking Parody Rangers".

>>94749662
I loved Super Freakin' Parody Rangers. Psst... one of my cartoons, which Kirb is in it, will have a whole mess of references in em.

>>94749648
Yeah it does, the square chin, the weird kinda pear shaped nose, the poofy hair, a long as you get the basics down, people will get that it's him.

>>94749255
>>94749317
Well? You said you'd like to see someone do better. Are you going to tell me what you want me to draw better or not?

>>94749724
I want to see the art of someone who dissed mine. Let's see if your work is better. Don't go dissing others work without the proper critique.

>>94749717
You could tell me
>>94749462
is Sasuke from Naruto and I would fucking believe you. It's not a good caricature at all.

>>94749724
What like, as in full animations that i've done, or just some small little animations?

because i already posted the kamoshida kick for you.

I could link some full animations if you want.

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>>94749787
Oh shit, I love sasuke from naruto!

What are the opinions of his characters in OK KO? my favorites have to be Nick Army and Pird.

>>94749887
they're ok, and ultimately harmless to the quality of the show.

Anyones thoughts on the TOME kickstarter?

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I was really into his work on Newgrounds as a kid. I thought his comedy flashes were hilarious and I watched ALL OF the original TOME series TWICE (for those unaware, that's ~70 slightly-interactive episodes and a movie).

I fell out of him when I fell out of Newgrounds, about a year or two before I found 4chan. I watched one episode of the rebooted TOME for nostalgic purposes and my only takeaway was that LittleKuriboh is really good VA, something I already knew.

In retrospect, the original was full of stuff that flew over my head and mildly impressed me, mostly because I hadn't seen a lot of it. The fight scenes interested me because I had never played Megaman Battle Network.

I had no idea he works on OK KO, probably because I haven't started that show yet. Oddly, from what I remember of his style he seems like a good fit, assuming he's improved.

Still, remembering how much I was into TOME back then is a bit sad.

Who's psy?

>>94750089
Damn, I didn't realize how many line breaks I put in this post. That could've just been one paragraph.

>>94750089
He's only a voice in OK KO.

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>>94749784
So you're not going to tell me what you'd like me to take a shot at then.

Fine.
I sketched your cat.

Man, I wish I wasn't so socially inept, self depreciating, and bad at advertising myself.
Seeing this guys shit makes me think if I started actually posting art and throwing my hat in the animation game back then I probably could have made something out of it. Probably not though.

>>94750237
Not good. But not bad either. As her species, I dunno what she is. But she ain't no cat.

>>94749328

Could somebody give me the quick rundown on the whole Psy situation?

I missed the whole thing.

>>94750369
>Not good
No shit.

It's two sketches in, what, ten minutes? By a god damn amateur. There's a million things I can already spot that I'd fix if I was going to actually draw this instead of pop out a sketch for the purposes of showing that I got room to talk about the original art.

>>94745579
Lawdy. There's absolutely no one left from FB20XL that is worth keeping track of.

>>94741366
From a lowly anon, Kirbopher is a decent animator and VA who's a worm of a person, and usually dubbed shit projects (Pokémon past 2008) to sustain himself before going on OK GO

>>94750623
Come on. Reigen Arataka is good.

>>94750654
I specifically chose not to buy the dubbed version of Mob because Chris was Reigen. Looking up the dub online, I feel good about this decision. He did a pretty mediocre job.

>Kirbopher and Rina-chan went on to doing professional voice acting
>They're both dogshit at it

>>94750720
There good somewhat.

>>94750237
>talk shit
>"let's see u do better"
>actually does it

M A D M A N

>>94746772
>eating a beagle
I don't speak shithead, translate

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>>94744764
>tfw you rewatch brawl taunts as an adult

It's complete trash and I feel genuine shame at ever liking it as a kid

>>94750559
Tyson Hesse is a professional animator.

>>94750840
"Craptin Falcon" always gets a giggle out of me

>>94750840
Psst. Yoshi laid an egg.

>>94750824
He ate a guys dog like the fucking asshole he is. Not that hard to understand.

>>94750858
His comic Boxer Hockey was referenced as the name of Zach Holzman's character in TOME, named Boxerkahi.

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>>94750824
He ate a fucking dog, nigga. What else is there to explain

>>94749516
that has to be the Dewd

>>94750877
>>94750888
I… I thought it was a retarded expression. What, he murdered someone's pet then ate it?

>>94745203
It's based off an old newgrounds series he made, TTA. And I watched a shit-ton of TTA.

>>94750958
> GAYMER GURLZ N GUISE BEIN' ALL BITCHY AND MAKIN' IN-JOKES
wow sign me the fuck up

>>94750888
>What else is there to explain
how the fuck that chain of events came to occur you mongoloid

>>94750858
So one That's worth following, one that's "shockingly" stepped on other people to move up, 2 being chased by a mob, 1 that shit talks his past and reblogs art rather than making new content.

What about the others?

>>94749486
>>94749717
>>94749784
Not him but it's unprofessional to be so defensive and critique is necessary to grow as an artist.
Don't take this personal but it looks more like harry potter and spike spiegel in a fight and it's subjectively bad.
I can tell you are passionate about this but to get better at it you need to acknowledge you kind of suck and practice to get better.
Otherwise you'll only end up patting yourself on the back when you have the potential to make something even better.
Remember, don't take critique personal and use it as a means to get better.

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>>94751010
Do you not know how to eat or something? He took some dog, put it in his mouth, chewed and swallowed.

This isn't rocket science

>>94751046
Ian Flynn was part of the site for all of two seconds, and he had a pretty successful comic run under Sonic. Now he's kind of struggling to find work, though.

One of em whose name I can't remember for the life of me did work on Skullgirls and is still drawing fat fetish stuff to this day.

>>94751048
I know I'm not perfect and I am practicing. That's a good critique.

>>94751048
Dude, he's an attention whore who has been refusing critique and "trolling" the webcomic thread for years now. He doesn't care what you have to say, even if he says otherwise.

>>94751048
yeah, i guess i am a little defensive.

mainly because I'm already like ten minutes into this anomation and can't really change anything about it now.

but either way, we were having a discussion on animation, not artstyle.

>>94750942
>>94751010
I heard that when he and the Titmouse people were having a lunch break Kirb waltzed in holding one of the employees dogs and just started eating the poor thing right in front of everyone. Its fucked and normally I'd look past his mediocre art and voice acting but this shit is inexcusable. I'm glad they blacklisted him, but who knows if this lunatic has eaten anyone elses pets?
I hear the experience is kinda like rape. Walking into your own home to see some dude with an exceptionally large nose chowing down on your chow.
You can tell people but nobody believes you, they just dismiss it thinking your joking.
And the people that do believe you wont say anything because in the corner of the vision they know hes there, waiting, with a belly churning for their canine companion.

>>94751072
So what you're saying is this chain of events doesn't exist, since you clearly can't explain them. Meaning the dog eating thing is just a dumb rumor to grab attention.

>>94751112
Will you stop asking people to prove they can do a better job than you when they criticize your art?

>>94751271
This legit sounds like a story that never happened. None of what this rumor is about is legal. Why didn't anyone go to the police? W-well b-because reasons!

>>94751274
>The universe wasn't created because you, personally, can not explain it in enough detail.

baka

>>94751298
>being this autistic
Sometimes I lay awake at night with the existential dread of knowing that somewhere, someone is too socially inept to understand humor.

>>94751298
Believe what you want friend. I'm just saying never doubt the influence an internet cartoonist has in today's society. If you have any pets give them a good petting because you never know what could happen.

>>94751303
The universe clearly exists cause we live in it. An accusation like that isn't a given just because the accusation is made.

False equivalency.

>>94751321
Sometimes I lay awake at night with the existential dread of knowing that somewhere, a complete moron thinks they're funny.

>>94751410
I'm not that anon.
I'm just saying goddamn dude, they phrased it as his belly rumbling for canine companions. You seriously can't be so fucking stupid you thought they were being serious, right?

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>>94751360
Do you really not realize we're just making a joke out of a typo of what I presume was 'bagel
?
Or are you just pretending to be retarded friend?

>>94751360
>The universe clearly exists cause we live in it.
Someone hasn't read Descartes.

>>94751433
Do you even realize where you are? Plenty of people get a kick off of rephrasing serious events in a ridiculous manner on 4chan. Usually doing it about much worse things.

>>94751276
Will you stop talking about critique when you don't even know what that is?

>>94751507
I'm gonna take that as a "No, I'm butthurt that someone actually took me up on posting their art."

Seriously, nobody likes a "post your art" guy. It just makes you look like an insecure asshole.

>>94751668
I never posted my art.

>>94752174
Man, Egoraptor went it all.

>>94745590
I found this
https://mobile.twitter.com/unsentiments/status/755941432645431296
>>94752241
that was egoraptor?

His role as Reigen in MP100 is fucking amazing. He's a talented voice actor at least.

>>94752174
Holy shit..

>>94752385
Yep. And dang. All this for a bagel. That's discriminatory.

>there will never be a brawl taunts 4

>>94752535
You ruined my life, you... YOU BIG POOPY!

>>94752174
>one hack fraud tells another hack fraud how much of a hack fraud he is

He's probably right though.

>>94752974
Yeah, well, one of the hack frauds was in a band.

>>94752974
in Arin's defense, his grasp of color theory is better than most people's

>>94745579
god damn, i'm not a fan of chris or his stuff but making such a long dramatic post about him being a meanie is overkill. i see this a lot, makes me scared that someone will make a call out post for all the dumb shit i said when i was a 17 year old on the internet.

>>94751298
These people are never gonna realize that you legitimately can't tell what the word was supposed to be, so...

Bagel.

it was a typo of the word bagel. He was eating a bagel.

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>>94744509

>the only one who didn't end up apologizing for his critisisms on it was egoraptor, which is why i still have some respect for him

no wonder you hate him so much, just another person in the world stroking the ego of Arin Hanson.

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>tfw threw 25 bucks at Kirbopher to get my stupid oc to cameo in the season 2 premiere of t.o.m.e

>>94743641
Hmmmm. been a while, Kirb-man. Still making money from Brawl Taunts, I take it?

>>94749486
Holy shit. Why did you steal Dewd's work?

>>94750237
Still lackluster, but better than what OP originally posted.

>>94753515
I will give him that. Arin has a knack for executing colors out of nothing. If you ever color select his RAW flash files, it is insane. He makes these cream palettes from opposite colors and shit. He made an electric yellow out of a navy blue, then shaded it to look like electricity. He will never animate again, but looking back on his work, he did have a strong grasp on color theory and used it very well to make his shit pop. Kirbo on the other hand just phones it in.

>>94741366
>spent 10 years drawing and animating
>he didn't improve either his drawing or story telling skills
>gets into all sorts of shit with runka-chunk

>I spent the last 4 years improving my drawing ability and actually improve
>the most I got was getting paid to draw /ss/

Yes, I am jealous.

>>94743641
The only time I recall where he played victim was when everyone jumped ship when psyguy was outed as a pedophile. Had some shit of "oh I knew what was going down, but I just didn't say anything because I grew accustomed to psy bringing in young girls into our online friends circle."

>>94754276
I'm sure he's working on some bigger shit. Once you're an animator, you can never go back. That shit is too gratifying to fully stop.

Shit he made when people said he "stopped"
https://twitter.com/Nickelodeon/status/746033901324410880

https://twitter.com/egoraptor/status/691906687431806976

To be fair those are last year's shit.

>>94741366
BEING YOUNG HAS NEVER BEEN THIS REFRESHING

>>94741366
Is this some kinda zombie version of link from zelda?

>>94749486
IT'S DEWD!

DEWD, YOU SUCK, STOP PRETENTING YOU KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANIMATION.

XOXO
/HYW/

>>94754465
tell that to Dobson

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>>94751112
Fuck off Dewd you retard. We all know you don't actually want to improve, you do the bare minimum you think will get you attention and that's it.

>>94750942
You idiot, they're talking about a bagel, obviously.

>>94754680
>Dobson
Let's not get started on that guy's inflated ego.

>>94756673
I dunno, I think kirb may be as bad as dobson, just not as publicly hated.

>>94758094
Yeah, I want to like Kirb, but the more you find out about him, the less likable he becomes. Ah well, just another person I know to never be like.

>>94742803
Season 1 was alright, season 2 was when it fell apart. That was a rushed ending If I've ever seen one.

>>94756673
he's just full of hot air