>Jack: "Ashi, you have Aku's powers!" >Ashi:

>>94729951
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>>94729951
>Jack: "Ashi, you have Aku's powers!"
>Ashi: "I do...Foolish Samurai!"
>*flings him into the future*

>>94729951
1. There is nothing preventing Aku's daughter from having Aku's powers.
2. The series actually ends on an unresolved conflict where Jack can't be sure whether he did the right thing or not.
Any more shitty threads to make today, OP?

>>94729951
naw, the last part of that episode was rushed as hell. Jack's parents were back to being well fed and clean when Jack killed Aku and it took until their wedding night for Ashi to disappear.

That said, I enjoyed the ride up until that part.

You didn't see that coming? I thought she'd be Aku's daughter for a reason. I'd say that is enough foreshadowing. The finale was rushed and that's fact, but Ashi getting Aku's powers wasn't an asspull, imo. The dialogue of that scene was garbage though. I don't understand the big fuss about this scene

I know Ashi was genndy teen OC waifu, but he shouldn't have shoved her into the final season of the show like he did.

>>94730033
I saw it coming but the sheer abruptness of it still really caught me off guard. They went from the middle of the fight to the whole thing being all over in the span of literally about 3 seconds, from her first opening her lips to say that she just realized she was the deus ex machina all along, to them jumping into the portal and thus winning the series.

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DUDE WITHOUT AKU I NEVER EXISTED LMAO

>>94730060
Nah the choice was fine, there were just too many strings attached. I said this when the finale came out and I'll say it again, if they'd used the post-fight scene time to just have a longer, better fight to kill Aku as he was in the future, then end on an open ended sunset or something, there wouldn't even be a discussion of wether the episode was good or bad.

>>94730146
Yeah I agree. I think it's decent enough writing story wise. The dialogue was shit and rushed, as I said, just like the final episode. S5 desperately needed at least another episode.

>>94730008
Just because Aku is her father doesn't automatically mean she has all of his powers. The series could have gone both ways with whether or not she had his powers, or only some powers, and it would make sense

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>>94730207
>tfw even after death, he still got eem'

>>94730008
>>94730273
Even then, just because she has all of Aku's powers, doesn't mean she should know how to use them all, ESPECIALLY if she spent most of her life thinking she was human. She ALSO shouldn't be able to match Aku 1-to-1 in terms of power. Those Space-Ripper-Stingy-Eyes she got? Yeah, Aku should've blown straight through those with his own. It really cheapens how much of a threat Aku really is.

>>94730322
How do you think she defeated an entire army single-handedly before? She was using at least some of Aku's powers without realizing it.

>>94730322
That was just superhuman strength and durability, which she could've easily chocked up to her lifetime of training. She wasn't travelling through time and something else impossible to explain.

>>94730455
meant for >>94730356

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>>94729951
>introduced out of nowhere
>clearly designed to be cool, fails
>screws up dynamic between two main characters
>hijacks what little plot there is
>dies out of nowhere

>>94730476
go back to /mlp/ anon

>>94730008
>1. There is nothing preventing Aku's daughter from having Aku's powers.


No but her having them at the last second only when it's convent sure as fuck is shit writing. That's the kind of thing you need to establish early not when you're in a corner

>O, MY AKU POWERS

>>94730526
she used some of them before >>94730356 + Aku opened up a majority of them himself

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>>94730514
What the fuck are you talking about

>>94730628
there was an anon shitposting about an /mlp/ character being a poochie there recently

>>94730008
>2. The series actually ends on an unresolved conflict where Jack can't be sure whether he did the right thing or not
except that's not implied at all
Jack apparently instantly finds peace with Ashi's death once he sees that ladybug and is completely untroubled by the ignored reality that every friend and ally he's made for the last 50 years has just been wiped from existence

>>94730650
Damn son that TV show's entire purpose is to sell toys, of course every character will feel like corporate mandated trash.

>>94730650
Oh. Well I wouldn't post there, that show isn't any good.

>>94730655
>apparently
no, that's just your interpretation
there is a reason why we are not shown some sort of a "happy future" or anything like that; Jack, just like viewer, cannot know whether his actions were actually for the better, all he can do is hope they were.

>>94729951
The irony is that no one can bitch about how they'd draw out episodes if she had powers earlier.

>>94729951
Good writing? No. If the season had like 5 or so more episodes for more breathing room it'd likely be a pretty solid season.

Not sure what Genndy was thinking when he made this. Probably needed money or something.

>>94730691
>any show meant to sell toys is automatically bad by default
wow

>>94730714
Explain the uplifting music at the end, then

>>94730737
He was probably thinking how they weren't giving him enough episodes to wrap it up but he had to figure out how to do it anyway.

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>>94729979

>>94729951
Nah, not really.

But it's Samurai Jack, I don't care. Those first 3 episodes were all I ever wanted.

>>94730650
Leave glimmy alone

Fuck the ending.

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>>94730541
>RUBBER NEN poster on /co/

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>>94729979

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>>94729951
>Simon: "Nia, you have the anti-spiral's powers!
>Nia: "I do!" *calls down the moon to crush the planet and gets kidnapped in the next few seconds*

>>94730992
>all he can do is hope they were.
Jack is not being a whiny bitch and hopes for the best because every single other course of action is going to give him more misery

>killing aku means I never existed!
>retroactively this means everything that just happened that resulted in the death of Aku never happened
Foolish.

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>>94732609
>If I willingly ignore and hide the truth from myself with misguided hope, I have solved the root of my misery forever.
>Jack? Jack, can you hear me? Why did you kill me, Jack?

>>94729951
I have to say it's kind of a Samurai Jack thing to do.
I mean, why bother fighting when you can just solve everything?

>>94732860
This post right here, is the reason why you come here anon.

>>94729979
>she takes him to the future that is Ashi instead.

>>94729979
WATCHA

>>94731122
Mike doesn't seem like the sort of person that does that.

>>94729951
It's good enough for HunterxHunter

>>94735047
So, not good

>>94729951

>implying

Ashi jumping straight to making a portal to the Past is the absolutely correct thing to do

You saw Jack back in episode 7, he saw the Sheep's portal he Fucking ran

>>94729951
Yes? Because it was foreshadowed from the beginning. The mystery of the cult, Ashi stretching out of the vices, her mom having powers... The idea was that you would only be mildly surprised.

>>94729979
That literally would have been better

>>94730476
>introduced out of nowhere
"Fifty years have passed" is a reasonable timeframe to introduce someone
>fails at being cool
Everyone thought the daughters were cool as shit up to episode 4, and a lot of people still thought ashi was great afterwards
>screws up dynamic between main characters
The dynamic was a literally eternal cycle between two immortals, if you want to end the show you have to change it.
>hijacks what little plot there is
So she's just as bad as x9 or the bounty hunters?
>dies out of nowhere
No arguments here

>>94735774
Her mom never had powers, and ashi stretched out of the device before she had akus powers

>>94737366
Your waifu sucks

>>94737553
She was a great concept with a nice dynamic and great design.
However genndy clearly didn't know what to do with her and if was gonna kill her off like that he shouldn't have included her at all

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>>94729979
>she accidently flings them both further in the future where Aku is even more powerful

>>94737624
well, nobody said aku can go back in time...

>ashi defense force always saying you were a contrarian if you said anything bad about her

>>94737697
>ctrl-f
>"contrarian"
>1 result found
Why you lyin

>>94730476
Also,
>louder
>angrier
>access to a time machine

>>94729951
They should have scrapped the bloated sexual tension episode to give more time to the finale. That or just ask for an extra episode.

Ashit fucked the whole season up. What was the point in helping all the future beings in earlier seasons if Jack was going to erase them all anyway. Don't give me that alternate timeline bullshit, because Genndy would have shown that instead of wasting time with Ashi's tragedy

>>94737748
She was not louder than aku or angrier than jack

>>94737783
Sounds like it's time travel you should be blaming for fucking the season up m8

>>94730207
I literally laughed that her final words were spoonfed exposition.

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Why is every waifu Genndy has tried to create post-DexMom so shit? Dude is like the anti-Hartman.

>>94730655
This 'Jack made the wrong choice' shit is the stupidest thing ever.
It is objectively better that he chose to go back because the mass suffering now never happened. There is no character death because there never were characters.

>>94737741
Back when it was airing dude

>>94737895
For five seasons Jack openly disagreed with this "objectively better choice". And we, the audience, were with him. I mean the part not suffering from mental issues.

>>94737856
Admit it, you only like Dexter's mom for her geometrical milf body and fanart. Aside from looks, she's as cookie cutter as housewife stock characters get.

>>94738883
>Jack openly disagreed
Huh? From what i recall he was always trying to get back to the past. That was always the end game.

>>94729951
It could have been, if

>>94739578
>>94738883
Closest thing to "openly disagreeing" is jack giving up on a chance to go back to the past in order to save someone/something.

Which is kind of stupid from his side since it wouldn't have even happened in the first place had jack successfully gone back in time and stopped aku.

On the other hand he got a whole goddamn army of "people who are really thankful for jack's help", or enough to start to shake up aku's (indirect) grip on the world.

Honestly, undoing the future and giving it a chance to work out better is a much better choice than all the shit aku did to the world, i mean, i get some of the logic behind the "jack did the wrong choice" thing, but from what i heard from people here it just feels like a way to justify all the hate for the finale and there are much better ways/reasons to justify it than a half-assed theory

>>94740426
>>94729951
>It could have been, if
if they hadn't fucked over the pacing towards the later half of the series.

>YOU'RE NOT MY FATHER
>YES I AM
>NO
>:o
Fuck that stupid teen drama tier writing, yes he is still your god damn dad

>>94729951
No. Now stop making threads about it.

Regardless if it was good writing or not, I will always love Aku's realization on just how fucked he was.

>>94732775
That's pretty much why time travel is an extremely shitty plot device if you care for consistency.

>>94737392
Her mother shapeshifted claws while fighting Ashi, and as we saw with the vices, Ashi inherited the ability as well.

>>94729951
Genndy can animate and choreograph but he can't write. Hopefully everyone has learned this valuable lesson by now.

>>94739578
Up until the final episode getting back to the past was nothing more than a background for the actual adventure. How hard it is to understand ffs and how many times does it have to be repeated to you autists? How is it even possible to not understand for someone who watched a few episodes.

>>94740426
You mean "all the shit" that is your headcanon? Yeah, can't see why people don't understand that. Again, pretty hard to argue with someone who fails to grasp absolutely basic themes in a fucking cartoon show.