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Daily reminder /co/ can draw better than a fucking professional

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Daily reminder /co/ can draw better than a fucking professional Marvel artist.
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>>94652022
>bigger tits
>different face
>everything else identical
Wow, much better!
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>>94652055
I mean, if it's identical except for fixing the flaws in the photo then yes, it would be considered better.
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>Trudy Cooper will never draw SG
but why
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I think her concept art of squirrel girl looks better.
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Doesn't take much
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>>94652251
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>>94652022
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>>94652228
Is that by Erica? What the fuck happened?
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>>94652022
>generically attractive=better
Maybe I should stop giving artists so much shit over sameface and samebody. At least half the blame for all these characters looking mostly the same outside their costumes is because the readers reee about anything they can't fap to.
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>>94652290
She added the fucked up lips.
Frankly her Squirrel Girl would look a lot better if she just had a normal fucking mouth, not the malformed flaps of flesh Erica ended up giving her. It's not cute, silly or endearing, it's just ugly and honestly a little disturbing looking.
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>>94652022
"professional"
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>>94652022
Then why none of you fuckers works in comics or cartoons?
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>>94652388
I'm working on it faggot
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>>94652022
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>>94652343
There's a difference between "can't fap to" and "can't look without feeling sick." She's the latter.
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>>94652228
>That headshot at the bottom
Why did she have to change that? Looks way better.
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>>94652022
>the purpose of female characters is to be sexually attractive to me personally
>My penis is the best judge of art's quality.
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>>94652388
They rejected my pitch for a Wolverine/SG book ;_;
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Would have been nice if it were like this.
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>>94652484
>preggo
The most top tier of all fetishes.
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>>94652446
Oh here we go....
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That's cute that you're saying /co/ as if you yourself did anything.
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>>94652022
>Her head in the comic is actually drawn in the shape of an acorn
Why does her face need to look like such shit, Acornhead actually works...
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>>94652589
what if its vore?
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>>94652605
that's literally the only difference in the art. They made her look more attractive.
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>>94652484
There is a whole MU in there.
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>>94652632
Then its far less good.
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>>94652558
We need to clone Gurihiru. Just have him illustrate every single comic series with a cute female lead.
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>>94652290
Artists usually can draw in different styles you know? Her regular style is different from the usual Squirrel Girl comic.

Story is that she presented multiple styles to Marvel, and they choose what looked more like Nickelodeon.
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>>94652022
If so good then why not draw tree as well?
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>>94652418

Post your work oh wait you won't.

Erica is better than everyone because she puts on comics every month and most of you can barely do pin ups/fan art.

You guys are just pleb.
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>>94652638
That's your subjective opinion. The objective opinion is that /co/'s version is just drawn better.
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>>94652652
Gurihiru is a team of two Japanese women.
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>>94652693

Wrong, it has no backgrounds.
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Daily reminder that /co/ can trace pretty well but can't write for shit
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>>94652558
>people still think Guri is peak Doreen
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>>94652055
look closer dumbass
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>>94652800
>daily
Real talk though there are 3-5 anons who are incredible artists who work for major companies
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>>94652670
why defend this
fucking christ why
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>>94652827
SJWs, anon.
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>>94652022
don't know who's the guy but have one of the worst art in Marvel, he and the America guy, don't know the fuck were they thinking pic related "Glactus"
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>>94652781
good, the process has already begun
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Why the fuck isn't she a mutant anymore?
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>>94652418
Yeah right anon, like that anon that goes to calarts or the one who's intern in CN
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>>94652670
here's an old one
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>>94652875
That pic gave me cancer.
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>>94652819
that looks great but it might be because I'm a weeb
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>>94652902
Oh shit I love Megaman.
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>>94652932
same
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>>94652055
Yeah, now she doesn't look like a tard
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>>94652819
I love the Hellboy style GIANT AS FUCK gloves on her in this style.

Honestly, I like it when artists make her awkward looking because, well, she's supposed to be weird looking.
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>>94652875
Since when does Galactus say he's gonna "kick butt"? Why would Squirrel Girl talk about Gender to Galactus? Why doesn't he just crush her? Why is she almost as big as his head?
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>>94652989
>It's a silly book
>It's a silly book
>It's a silly book
>Galactus is actually usually only depicted at about 25 feet tall
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>>94652343
It's more appeasing to the eye, why wouldn't you want your likeable character to look visually appealing instead of a mess?
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>>94653039
Because I am Rebecca Sugar.
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>>94653012
It being silly doesn't mean shit, if Deadpool met Galactus and they went to the Las Vegas strip it wouldn't make any sense.
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>>94653079
I always suspected she was a /co/ user
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>>94653079
Tits or gtfo
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>>94653081
No, it wouldn't make sense, but it might be funny.
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>>94653147
You can be funny without changing the characters so drastically.
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>>94652558
It'd still be the same turd written by Ryan North
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>>94652823
>Real talk though there are 3-5 anons who are incredible artists who work for major companies
What?
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>>94653200
Why do people like him? He did that awful shakespeare choose your own adventure game and dinosaur comics, but somehow he gets to ruin squirrel girl too?
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>>94653182
Sure it can, but it chooses to do otherwise.

Like, it's fine not to like something for what it is, but that doesn't make the thing wrong because it doesn't appeal to you.
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>incredibly stylized art is called shitty for being incredibly stylized

I bet you autists complain that South Park characters are anatomically incorrect
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>>94653079
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>>94653039
Because I don't consider physical attractiveness important to my enjoyment of a character. It's called not being a shallow autist. Maybe try it out sometime.
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>>94652877
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> Daily reminder I need to post an edit over a year old to get attention on the internet
Have you considered suicide threats
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>>94653364
>>94653337
>>94653302
It really triggered you, huh?
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>>94652875
>>94652907
>>94652989
>>94653012
>>94653081
>I thought the pic was funny...
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>>94652272
I hate this art style so much. Penny Arcade does it too, I don't know how to describe it but the overly pouty lips and curved facial expressions just piss me off
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>less stylized
>better
pick one
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>>94652022
UMMM but she won ComicsAlliance best comic and the Eisner so ....
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>>94653337
I don't care about wanting to bang squirrel girl or not, I care if the art is well done
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>>94652022
isn't her looking ugly as sin the point?
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>>94653506
>ComicsAlliance
>Eisner
>being a sign of quality
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>>94652989
>"kick butt" is just one of those common SJW phrases because it sounds quirky. Other common phrases include

>jerk
>badass
>omg
>yass
>alt-right
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>>94652022
Are there more redraws?
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>>94653506
>UMMM but
not even ironically funny
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>>94653563
This anon gets it.
Squirrel Girl is canonically not conventionally attractive.
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>>94653580
SJW's don't say alt-right, you're called nazis or white supremacists.
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>>94652983
If every character still looked the same as their first appearance, Wolverine would still look like a cat. First appearances are not an argument for how a character should always look.
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>>94653079
Your show sucks you kike faced demon.
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>>94653720
SJW journalists throw around "alt-right" like vowels.
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>>94653079
hey becks
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>>94652423
Now they just both look fucked up.
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>>94654506
I know, I just wanted to switch their faces.
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>>94652022
I'd like to see /co/ keep up with a deadline.

because every other /co/ project REALLY got off the ground even with no deadlines at all!
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>>94652670
Hello Erica.
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>>94652799
/co/ is just proving they can draw the character better. Why include the background?
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>>94652589
Only preggo i fapped to was the bioshock elizabeth webm....idk she looks really cute.
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>"professional"
>literally the first artist they could get from tumblr
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>>94652484
she's full of nut
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>>94652388
Because I already have a better job?
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>>94652423
If you had to fuck one, which one would you choose?
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why not just make her full furry
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>>94652022
>Friendly reminder that a professional artist don't need to do any effort because fandom literally eats any crap that comes from a famous comic brand

Fix it
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>>94654801
Sure, but what's wrong with a drawing or comic hobby on the side?
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>>94652022
>generic legbeard shit
>generic neckbeard shit

>big improvement.
woo lad.
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>>94652022
If the standard is that artist on the left, just about everyone can draw better than that. Low standards.
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>>94652827
Because these threads are fucking useless. Not even that guy but god the fucking entitlement and bitching about something so amazingly inconsequential is amazing. We get it, the art sucks and Marvel's writing is too le Left-Wing now. We've already masturbated each other about this topic, multiple times, to completion. Post something unique and interesting that isn't completely a rehash of stuff we've already talked about.

Same shit in "RICK AND MORTY BAAAD?" threads and "ASHI A SHIT DEBATE ME" threads. It's boring. Talk about Ed Edd n Eddy or do a Rocko's Modern Life retrospective or recommend comics or something. The most interesting thing in this thread so far has been the pregnancy porn anons were posting of SG.
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>>94652343
I agree that attractive =/= drawn better. Ugly characters can still be well drawn, and vice versa.

Henderson's problem is that they're ugly and drawn poorly. Even when she's drawing characters that are supposed to be attractive, they're still drawn poorly (and are often ugly). She is a legitimately bad artist.
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>>94653412
That's because it is funny.

Is this what people get mad about when they talk about Squirrel Girl? This is fucking fine, am I missing something?
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>>94652022
>out of the 7 billion people on earth, one who happens to browse /co/ is able to draw better than a marvel artist.
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>>94655415
Yea its not just squirrel girl. Everyone in the book looks like shit.
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>>94652022
if you think that is good you should check buttsmith.
not only the art is better than most marvel have now, but the plot is also better than anything marvel put out in the last decade, and its a porn webcomic
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>>94655529
It's not just that book. Henderson has shown time and time again that she's middling fanart tier with little to no grasp of the basics. She needs to study anatomy and get some life drawing practice in.
Until then, her non-stylised shit will look like trash and her stylised shit will look even worse.
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>>94654785
I want her to be filled with my nut, if you get what i mean.
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>>94652055
One face looks nice. The other face physically repulses me. Guess which is which.
The tits are a lil unnecessary though, yeah.
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>>94655411
soooooo, you're triggered?
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>>94653689
Yeah with her wack ass eyes, buck teeth and such. The point with her is that having a weak ability+not and looking average at best belies her achievements.
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>>94655411
>do a Rocko's Modern Life

How about "take a Rocko's Modern life scene and adapt it to 2017"? That would be steller
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>>94655604
I cant with the simple and flat art that some of these books have. SG is the worst because Erica and what you said.

I hate the lemon faces everyone has. And she cant draw expressions all that well.

I wonder if i kept up my drawing, i probably be much better than her.
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>>94652022
I realized how idiotic this thread (that people keep posting over and over) is.
How the fuck do you know "some guy on /co/" isn't a proffesional artist?
Being hired in comics aren't some high end of artistic ability, especially by fucking Marvel who generally hire cheapest artists possible - I mean, Rob Liefeld and Greg Land are considered some of the better/more popular Marvel artists out there. This is Marvel, where all Star Wars books are traced from movie stills, and every spaceship or a weapon is traced from 3D model.

In comparison, there is a ton of art careers that actually require you to be good at art. Being an animator, storyboarder, concept artist, videogame artist - 2D or 3D; being a comics artist isn't necessarily some high end of the spectrum of artistic ability, being a comic artist just means you can draw FAST and are preferably cheap.

Comic industry doesn't have any money because comics sell like 20 thousand copies a month. Videogames or movie tickets sell in millions. Do the math, it's obvious they are going to get better artists.
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Okay, so, let's critique all those 'better' art, shall we?
>>94652022
It isn't 'better' in any capacity, dude just made her sexier. He didn't fix the awkward pose or the tail that looks like it's glued on, or the terrible coloring, so it's not really 'fixed'.

Obvious mistakes - anatomy and proportions are all fucked up; boobs are MUCH worse, guy was trying to give her bigger boobs but ended up making these boobs into antigravity boobs - if she isn't wearing a bra (as it seems so) breasts would NEVER protrude like that when a person is lying down.

Original was at least funny/silly. "Fix" is trying to be "more realistic" in all the worst ways.

Overall: this isn't improved in any capacity. I recommend you read Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud - this is only changed on a layer that McCloud would call "surface".
Surface is the 'look' of art, and if you think this drawing is better, you are every bit as deluded as Rob Liefeld fanboys - because you mistake form for substance.

>>94652251
You just added the marks around the eyes, which sounds to me like a person butthurt by change in design. Also you changed the boobs.
BOOBS ARE AFFECTED BY GRAVITY. THEY'RE SACKS OF FAT AND BEHAVE NOT UNLIKE BALOONS FILLED WITH LIQUID.
On a person who's lying down or reclining like SG is in the picture, breasts will be NOT standing up.

>>94652272
That's fucking horrifying. You made generic silly drawing into stuff of nightmares. Why doesn't she have any lips? This makes her look like a crossdressing Joker. Ew.
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>>94652022
I kinda like that the Squirrel Girl on the left has a head shaped like an acorn. I never got the feeling that SG was supposed to be attractive.

The rest though is awful.
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>>94652022
why dont /co make their own publishing house then?
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>>94652022
>"professional"
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>>94656008
Well I think
>>94652251
Fixed her facial proportions up a lot.
Mostly the lips, jesus fuck what is wrong with the original's lips. It looks like she had recent botox or was eating bees.
The nose looks less like a pig snout too
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>>94656008
Erika please
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>>94652055
>has a human looking face
>no nigger lips
>no bug eyes and beady pupils
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>>94656008
>if she isn't wearing a bra (as it seems so) breasts would NEVER protrude like that when a person is lying down
That's not what 4chan ads are telling me
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>>94652378
I like the idea of Doreen having plump lips, but yeah Erica can't draw them well at all

>>94652983
eh I don't count her debut as having any merit toward influencing later drawn depictions, Ditko was half assing that comic

>>94653689
she's been portrayed for most of her existence as conventionally cute, it's only in her debut comic(which as already mentioned was Ditko half-assing it like he did for any Big 2 work he did after the early 70's), and when Erica Henderson draws her that she looks like she's got an extra chromosome

>>94655664
>The point with her is that having a weak ability+not and looking average at best belies her achievements.
actually Squirrel Girl has a pretty decent power set even ignoring the "Talks to Squirrels" part, she's basically a mix of Spider-Man and Wolverine when it comes to her powers, she's not exactly a wimp, it's just kinda easy to forget sometimes cause Doreen prefers to solve her problems without fighting if she can
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>>94655163
Nothing whatsoever. Hobbies and jobs should be kept separate though, when you make a hobby into an obligation, it loses a lot of its enjoyment.
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>muh art style
It's just fucking ugly. Here, made absolutely minor changes to the face, it keeps all the style but makes it less unpleasant to look at. Just because someone has an art style doesn't mean it's a good style, and this isn't even a unique style in any way. It's extremely popular to the point where you can barely tell different artists using it apart. It's not artistic expression it's laziness and ineptitude mixed with idiotic notion of ugly art being quirky and progressive. Those people have their reality warped so far that they draw purposely deformed characters thinking it's cute. I'm all for more varied art styles but this is not helping the cause, whatever that cause is.
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>>94652558
awww that's cute and she actually looks like a squirrel
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>>94652055
>>different face
This alone is a vast, vast improvement.
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>>94652022
They just made her more conventionally attractive. Which I like more but I'm not enough an autistic spaz to confuse that with "drawing better." They wanted her to look like a gross man for whatever reason, if they wanted an attractive version they'd find someone that can draw better than the anon.
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>>94657073
But everyone in the comic looks like that.
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>>94655712
>i probably be much better than her.

lolol this delusion
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>>94656848
Good edit, but I feel like nitpicking the fact that I think she's supposed to have a bit of an overbite, considering her teeth and all. If you could convey that better, I think your edit would be a perfect comparison piece.
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>>94656008
Isn't there a new issue you need to scribble together the day before release? How do you have time to shitpost?
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>>94652022
OP why did you post two pictures of shit next to eachother?
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>>94653302
But it's not stylized. Her body anatomy is fine. Her face goes all fun house mirror for no reason.

Where as in this one everything is weirdly stylized and it works.
>>94652819
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>>94652022
>Daily reminder /co/ can draw better than a fucking professional Marvel artist.
More like "professional Marvel AUTIST", amirite?
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>>94657203
You're right, that's because it's the style she chose. Correlating that with artistic talent is retarded, because she can draw normal faces. She just chose not to... for some reason.
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>>94652388
>wanting to actually be a professional artist

I had enough top ramen back in college, thank you.
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>>94652388
>Then why none of you fuckers works in comics or cartoons?

I'm not nearly sycophantic enough to kiss the right asses/suck the right dicks to get ahead in the creative 'industry'

You also need to come from a wealthy family with connections to be successful in entertainment and I'm just the scion of 'privileged' poor white lower class working folks.
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>>94657391
I dunno, have you see the kind of person that starts out pretty normal, maybe a little stylized as an artist then they go through something, tumblr, calarts, some other art college, and they come out drawing like they want to be the most original snowflake?

Yeah the concept pics look ok, but if you look at all her loose art, the concept pics are an anomaly. Not the other way around.
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>>94652388
I make comics. Just not Marvel or DC comics. I even make money. Not that that's hard. The biggest hurdle to making comics professionally is not being a slow ass bitch. You can have a lot of good artists but they can't manage the schedule it takes to work for any of the major companies unless given special favour.
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People only see the face but he also changed the ears, the knee, the belt and the neck
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>>94657236
>implying she set a high bar to pass
Whatever erica.
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>>94657477
That's not true! It's not all about money and connections. If you were a woman or a minority you could get into any industry you wanted, without being rich or knowing anybody.
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>>94652022
that's actually an insult to /co/. Some people earnestly work on their art stills, not everyone is a worthless college dropout like me.
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>>94652022
What if she's supposed to be ugly? Then the Marvel artist is doing a better job.
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>>94652022
Back when that book launched and people were defending Henderson's art, someone did that "I'd like to see you do better" thing. So I took 15 minutes out of my lunch break and did this.
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>>94657477
How about Craig then?
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>>94653689
>canonically not attractive
What about her isn't attractive?
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>>94657810
You can pull up a version of any character that's attractive no matter how it's stated they're supposed to be fat, or homely. Many Comic artists are lazy shitheads with only one body type.
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>>94657660
Give me a link to see more of your art, I love your style
N-no homo
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>>94652022
This meme needs to end
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>>94652022
Irrelevant, as /co/ can't into social and hard work enough to actually get an industry job creating professional comics.
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>>94653337
Have fun never being a successful artist. Tumblr is this way: http://farms-art.tumblr.com/post/136431911106/ill-just-put-this-here-real-quick-all-the-kids
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>>94652484
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>>94655566
Incase is a miracle of the universe, it's unfair to compare mere mortals to him.
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>>94658014
Being a successful artist isn't really worth it. You have to deal with a bunch of whining assholes that only want to masturbate instead of understand character variance and things like costume design for that makes sense for the character it's for instead of tickles your pickle at all times. It's soul crushingly boring unless you can turn that part of your brain off.
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>>94652877
You didn't know what you were talking about before, but this post was funny enough for it to make up for it.

7/10, not bad
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>>94654173
>"i'm not happy, bob. Not. Happy."
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>>94657420
>implying artists don't make money
must suck to not have talent
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>>94658191
Actually you don't have to deal with them at all. You can just not go on 4chan
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>>94652558
then fat ugly landwhales wouldn't be able to feel identified with her
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>>94652022
>Professional artist with deadlines and a life that has to draw an entire book
>Compared to a basement neckbeard with nothing else to do with his time who edits literally one single picture
>This is comparable somehow

Woooow I bet /co/ can draw an entire professional comic and not have it fall apart in the planning stages literally every single time.
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>>94657420
Fucking christ, that pic got me. 10/10 lols.
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>>94655524
Why the fuck would you bring up the total population of Earth when not even .0000001% of them browse /co/? That's so fucking stupid.
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>>94652446
At least its an honest opinion from myself.
>men are honest through their penises
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>>94652055
I know, it was so fucking easy.
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>>94652022
What I hate most about it isnt even that she's kinda gross looking, its that she looks exactly fucking like my obnoxious cousin
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>>94655411
Erica, come on, you've got work to do.
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>>94655454
Yes. A sense of humour.
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>>94652887
Because Fox
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>>94658191
>Costume variance
>I WANNA TURN THE CHARACTER INTO A FAT DOWN SYNDROME CHILD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING HER TOO MUCH.

Okay.
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>>94653720
That's changed, now alt-right encompasses everyone who disagrees with them who isn't a card carrying Republican.
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>>94658592
>It's a "/co/ thinks they have a sense of humor" episode
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>>94658631
/co/mblr doesn't, I'll tell you that for free.
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>>94658191
I can understand wanting something that makes sense for a character. It doesnt change the fact that we are visual oriented people in a visual oriented medium (comics).
Making it cute is not necessary but it helps A LOOOOOOOOT. I dont even want to fuck Squirrel girl. I dont care AT ALL if people masturbate to her.
BUT.
If I see a cover with a cute character, i will give a look. If the interior seems cute, I will buy it and read it. If its shit, most likely I will just ignore it for something else. If gurihiru did the interior for SG, I can assure you I would buy it and read it, even if its an innocuous story and lazy plot. Stop pretending its the fucking patriarchy every time things dont go your way, we judge by looks, especially our entertainment, and no amount of Social justice will completely change that, ever.
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>>94657660
That's some top-tier Squirrel right there.
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>>94657477
Because it's not like Japan where the industry is large enough to sustain people coming in via talent. The comic industry in the US is so small and the number of people interested so large that unless you self-publish, if you're not connected or lucky, you're not even getting through the door.
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>>94652657
but why did she pick the "beaten so hard with an ugly stick she grew an extra chromosome" design?
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>>94652781
two?
Great!
We can breed them!

I know there's not much chance of offspring, but i think as scientists we should enact this experiment and observe carefully.
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>>94658661
This. If i cant enjoy the art in a book than im not gonna read it.
I was very excited for Vote Loki. The writing was pretty good but i couldnt bring myself to buy it because the interior is just ass.
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>>94658616
>He thinks I'm defending Henderson

How sweet. It's like there's never any nuance. All of her characters have a similar problem, her style just happens to be webcomic tier so people care to complain more.
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>Squirrel Girl
>was a mutant who had giant knuckle spikes, sharp claws, teeth to chew through solid wood, mentally control squirrels and can converse with them, prehensile tail

>Unbeatable squirrel girl
>remove ALL OF HER MUTANT POWERS save Tail and talking to squirrels.
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>>94652287
>dat negro
A classic caricature, still makes me laugh
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>>94658790
You can make a character look cute, sexy, edgy or critty, and it will sell. You can also make him/her ugly, but the story better carry the weight, or have something else to make up for the fact its visually unappealing. Squirrel girl has neither a story or character development to carry the lack of visual appeal. But then again, its Marvel. These days if you want a modicum of anything, you go to DC, sometimes.
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>>94652819
god I love the art
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>>94658955
Yea. Good writing can trump all for most people. SG has nothing going for it but thats probably why folks are buying. They are deluding themselves into thinking they are helping phase out 'sexy drawing' in comics cuz now they look like real people.
Just look at those edits that always just shoops characters bigger when it doesnt even match them.
Harley is a trained gymnast. Shes not gonna be a fatass.
Sure some can be fat but those people better be brawlers or sonething.
Folks like Spiderwoman, Widow, or hell Captain marvel shouldnt be. Because they actually work out. Carol is military. Name one fatass military personal you know.
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>>94657660
Honestly, I don't even mind her artstyle that much. My biggest problem with her art is that she has no idea how to make comics. Her panel layouts are boring and random, composition of panels is whack, panels often have a ton of pointless whitespace,

Here is the page where the OP panel came from. Look at how bad it is. Does it really evoke feeling of a fun nap SUDDENLY interrupted by a mugging? Of course not.
Look at how busy and cramped third panel is - you don't want to make panel with this much text THIS small.
In general, smaller/narrow panels "feel" faster because they take shorter to read, and big/wider panels "feel" slower - because of that, panels featuring the nap on a tree 'feel' faster than the actual ensuing fight which 'feels' pretty slow, which is insane - fight should feel fast and dynamic and nap should be nice and relaxing.
Composition is completely nonexistent - there are many tricks that could be used to make the bad guys seem threatening, focal points are completely nonexistent, there is no use of negative space or framing or really anything, panels have no flow - normally you want artwork to lead reader's eyes through the page in a line, showing all the important stuff...
Look, I could go on.

She is a mediocre artist, but a TERRIBLE comic artist.
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>>94659041
Trained gymnast wouldn't have much fat, and ergo boobs. That's beside the point that she most likely would be wearing a sports bra to action stuff which would visibly decrease her bust size.

Look, you can rat on how shitty USG is without defending shitty artists who oversexualize characters. Both extremes are evil.
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>>94652484
>Preggo Squirrel Girl
Whew lad, why do I like that so much?
>>94652632
Even better, then.
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>>94659057
Paneling can be a writer issue as well (I've written some comics before and they advised me to specify paneling), but yeah, that's not great.
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>>94659115
Wasnt talking about how she looks in the comics. Just those shitty shoops who make her fat cuz'muh realism' i dont even like harkey but she was the first example i thought of while typing.

And how can you oversexualize a slut from birth. I hate how her main book draws as i hate that team.
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>>94658842
she actually still has all her powers, she just doesn't use them much in UBSG because one of the themes of the book is Doreen solving the situations she's in with as minimal violence as possible

if you want to see her using her powers more directly you should look at New Avengers and USAvengers, they showcase Squirrel Girl's power set better

>>94659041
on the topics of figures, that actually goes towards one of the few things that's even remotely decent about how Erica Henderson draws Doreen, she gives her a surprisingly fit physique, at least when she remembers to draw the right details(which I guess means there was some truth to that old rumor that Erica based her design for Doreen at least partially on Samantha Wright)
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>>94659041
>They are deluding themselves into thinking they are helping phase out 'sexy drawing' in comics cuz now they look like real people.

You're deluding yourself. Children buy it. Literal children with no taste. That's why it's allowed to be stupid, ignore continuity and make villains who have murdered into silly chumps. Same with Hellcat.

>My biggest problem with her art is that she has no idea how to make comics

Absolutely. She has no idea how to tell a story visually.
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>>94659213
>this dude seriously thinks children buy comics
Kek. What do you think this is, 60's?
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>>94652819
I like it, a little bit creepy but cute at the same time, is she our best one?
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>Just those shitty shoops who make her fat cuz'muh realism'
wat?

>>94659115
No tits you say.
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>>94652055
Goddammit, every time I want to use this some asshole already managed to get like ten (You)s
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>>94657420
where's the original?
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>>94659286
it's the second image a femboy?
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>>94654993
Right. She looks excited to suck some dick
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>>94657660
That's fuckin rad
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>>94659238
I don't know, ask Scholastic.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/comics/article/71400-after-slow-start-comics-sales-bounce-back-at-2016-diamond-summit.html
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>>94652877
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>>94658661
>If I see a cover with a cute character, i will give a look. If the interior seems cute, I will buy it and read it. If its shit, most likely I will just ignore it for something else. If gurihiru did the interior for SG, I can assure you I would buy it and read it, even if its an innocuous story and lazy plot.
This is 100% true, if you don't believe it, just look at gwenpool.
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>>94659521
Im dissapointed, but not surprised. It's Marvel.

Its sad they just throw the shittiest shit to the kids, like throwing the food that didnt sell that day to the dogs. Just because its for kids it doesnt mean you have to go out of your way to not try, they deserve nice things even if they are kids, pic related.
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>>94659521
You do know Marvel gets money even if the books dont sell right. Its scholastic thats has to make their money back.
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>>94659835
Marvel doesn't choose. Scholastic chooses.
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>>94652022
She makes her ugly on purpose for sjw bullshit.
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>>94652388
we are not communist enough.
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>>94659913
And the comic sells because they throw it to kids who dont know better, who could be as entertained with an empty box, or the plastic bag that comic probably comes in.
It could sell more if they at least tried to make it appealing in some way. ANY way.
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>>94657843
This and even in her GLA reammergence she was drawn to be at least awkward looking.

It was later artists that made her look boring. Erica friggin' returned her to her roots.
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>>94660038
Maybe people could try to petition Scholastic for good books. They apparently have some kind of jury or something to pick books to sell. They also sell Ms. Marvel and some various "baby's first marvel" picture books.

The top selling trades are mostly for kids and more publishers should be getting in on this. Get those little shits hooked early for a lifetime of pain.

http://www.comicsbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Bookscan-16-Top-750_sheet.htm
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>>94652652
just make them drop Gwenpool, that book is gonna day the moment they leave anyway.
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>>94653628
i did one a while back
warning it is deliberately over-the-top
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>>94652022
u're not supposed to wanna BANG squirrelgirl!
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>>94659947
More like you guys aren't good enough
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>>94652055
>bigger tits
They're not bigger. He just shaped like tits.
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>>94661301
They moved the jacket to a position that makes more sense than the original. She has boobs in the comic.
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>>94656008
>This makes her look like a crossdressing Joker.

I'm okay with this.
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>>94657379
I recognize that bulge!
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>>94657660
>15 minutes

reeee post more art or else I'll call you a liar

seriously, that's a cute drawing and I want to see more cute girls
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>>94652055
Haha yes! You're right!
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>>94663323
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>>94663323
>>94663465
Stop squirreling around.
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>>94652251
I actually forgot she had those little jestery thingies around her eyes
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>>94652022
One of these threads should be a Drawfag thread specifically to get as many /co/ anons as possible to draw Squirrel Girl and do it better than the actual comic.

No previously made art, everything made just for the thread
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>>94663611
>it's been a long day
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>>94658231
Heard it in that voice
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>>94653398
If anyone was triggered it wasn't that retard it's the people who still care about this shit in the first place.
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>>94657420
Heh, parents acted like that second scenario the entire time. I went to art school anyway with their protesting through it all and constantly telling me I will starve to death.

I got a nice paying job and they just doubled down on the "You are wasting your life, there is no money in that" If it ever gets to the point of my own movie I doubt they will ever stubbornly admit having been wrong. They would likely still tell me that I will eventually starve.
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>>94663617
Shit, I fucked up her arm. Here's a fixed version.
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>>94652877
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>>94652558
They shod just have Gurihiru draw every single Marvel book.
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>>94663323
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>>94656008

Sexier is better.
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>>94656706
>cause Doreen prefers to solve her problems without fighting if she can

I dunno if I'd go that far, she is clearly willing and able, even occasionally eager, to fuck some shit up. It's just that if it is clear she can resolve things with communication, she actually will. Which I grant, puts her far and above most capes.
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I'm still upset she's not a mutant anymore.
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>>94652022
Disgusting.
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>>94656008
>Reply
(you)
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I think Squirrel Girl should have her own rogue's gallery. She can still take out other villains like Doom, M.O.D.O.K, Thanos, Gallactus and all them, but give her some goofy rogues to chase after like Panda Mania.

Kid Koala? The Human Man? Leaping Lizard?
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>>94652989
Can't crush someone when you have a crush ON them
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>>94652055
There's a button on the pouch now you stupid faggot
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>>94656008
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>>94663809
And have their work pissed by SJWs and virtue signaler?
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>>94657660
The only thing I dislike about this art is that, unfortunately, it won't actually be an official design. I'm seriously sad that this won't get to be her design!
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>>94652022
Daily reminder that that's basically the same as winning a participation trophy.
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>>94664266
Go to hell.
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>>94652388
>>94652670
Erica, stop please.
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>>94652388
Because I'm a junior officer in the Army.

I plan on getting into writing though once I'm out.
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>>94657420
>that ending
10/10 well done
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>>94652558
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>>94652022
Most are so turned off by the designs that some of the good aspects of the art get overlooked. I like the clear set ups and composition. It's action dense, with good posture and body language that is simultaneously natural and forceful ( i think a lot of that has to do with the way she draws shoulders.) While these qualities don't negate the off-putting design choices, they're underrated and underestimated by amateurs and non-artists. Your declaration is premature.

>>94652558
As much as I enjoy Guihiru's art, I can't unsee the uncomfortably long forearm in this one.
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>>94652875
D:
O:
D:
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>>94655411
Why even come to /co/ if you don't like the community, why put up with people you don't have to interact with
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did this like a year ago, don't know how it still holds up over time basically I just took the similar features in this design (big nose, puffy lips, bucked teeth) and just made them less poorly drawn just to show its not the design, its the style that's the problem
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>>94665876
Yeah, this is much better. The worst part of the original are eyes and lips, fix those and everything else becomes passable.
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>>94665908
>eyes and lips
so basically the entire face minus the nose
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>>94665956
The point is that it's such a minor detail that even if this wasn't a deliberate choice on the artists part she could simply learn a different style very fast. Which makes all of the people defending it because she can draw fast wrong, changing consciously chosen style on a minor but important part of the drawing wouldn't make the draw time longer, it's shit because and only because the artist wants it to be and people keep encouraging it instead of telling her to change that one detail that would make the art acceptable.
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>>94665876
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>>94659057
Ugh! I just don't like the shape of her fucking mongoloid-looking head, it's disgusting! Fuck.
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>>94659160
Considering Ryan North's main comic involves literally using the same exact panels over and over, that could very well be it.
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>>94652022
tumblr faggots draw their characters to be fat and ugly on purpose because of their ideology

attractive people are oppressive and privileged to these hambeasts
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>>94652781
>Teams of multiple Japanese women under a collective name create amazing artwork

Color me surprised.
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>>94652388
I'm not a Jew.
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>>94652388
I'm too Jewish, and comics are only hiring for "diversity" now.
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>>94653302
>Lol it's just stylized!
"Taste is relative" is the excuse adopted by those eras that have bad taste.
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>>94657660
In premise, I absolutely hate squirrel girl and want to see her get hit by a train.

Your artwork makes me want to read an ongoing serial all about her cute, low-level SOL adventures.
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>>94660893
you have to ride the red dick to get a job in the big merican comic corporations
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>>94656008
>It isn't 'better' in any capacity, dude just made her sexier.
Made her look like she doesn't suffer from severe fetal alcohol syndrome. She actually looks visually pleasing at the very least.
>He didn't fix the awkward pose
In all honesty what "awkward pose"? The body isn't twisted in any particularly unnerving way, in fact it's very relaxed; which is why she should have the relaxed face given to her supposed better artist. The original's face doesn't fit the pose at all.
>tail that looks like it's glued on, or the terrible coloring, so it's not really 'fixed'.
How can you tell from that angle looking down at her that the tail is glued on? I agree with the coloring, but you seem to be going on a tangent about how the artist didn't fix shit when they clearly did. The only thing I will legitimately say is that there's a huge amount of crow's feet and white patches in the second artist's rendition of Squirrel Girl. They should've made it much more cleaner.
>Obvious mistakes - anatomy and proportions are all fucked up; boobs are MUCH worse, guy was trying to give her bigger boobs but ended up making these boobs into antigravity boobs
She probably has "antigravity boobs" because she's lying down and gravity is pulling downwards you fucking dolt. You'd have an argument if she was standing up, in fact even then this just goes to show how much the artist knows about anatomy and how much YOU don't. The breasts are being pulled up and aim upwards due to the relationship between the bicep and the breast/chest muscles. (I'm aware that breasts aren't in any way muscle, but they are connected to the body via the pectoral muscle which is DIRECTLY connected to the biceps/arm muscle.)
Stop talking about this like you know how the human body works. You very clearly don't.
Even then you're only presuming this from what you can see out of what she's wearing. Her chestpiece is most likely padded.
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>>94652378
It's so plastic surgery people can relate to her
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>>94665758
>I like the clear set ups and composition
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>>94665758
>I like the clear set ups and composition
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>>94652022
Can he keep a schedule tho? Could he do ~20 full pages a month?
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Who's uglier between the two? Steven Universe or Squirrel Girl?
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>>94652022
Skill-wise, they're both equal, just one's cute. I guess the original is not cute on purpose so this is just making an embarrassing example of how /co/ needs every girl to be waifu material
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>>94665758
>I like the clear set ups and composition
>We had to put arrows to tell you where to go.
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>>94652670
Fuck it, I don't give a shit.

I do 14-20 pages a month, full color, and I also do things like this in my spare time. So yeah I could do my own pencils and inks and let someone color for me fine. This was sometime last year.
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>>94669570
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>>94669590
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>>94652670
Fuck off /co/mblrina cancer
on retards would defend Erica's work ...EVER
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I like the way she was drawn in the Deadpool special.
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>>94669420
(You)
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>>94663809
Gurihiru's talents should not be wasted on Marvel, let alone capeshit
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>>94652022

No; you simply like the /co/ drawing more.
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>>94652055
Guess which will sell better?

Marvel don't need the money they need the diversity points.
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>>94652104
>fixing the flaws
That's not how you spell "Making it something to fap to", Anon.
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>>94653857
>Wolverine would still look like a cat
Wot?
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>>94656008
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>>94670515
>That's not how you spell "Making it something to fap to", Anon.

Compared to other superheroes Doreen is almost always drawn cute at best. We're not asking for fap bait. We're asking for something that doesn't look like it's from that one episode of the Twilight Zone with the disfigured medical staff.
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>>94652022
they're both shit.

difference is one has you slobbering all over asking for a link to a messy as fuck art archive page only to find out other works by that same artist are uninteresting and generic, but you follow him regardless. even though you very well know you won't pay attention to him ever again.
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>>94670154
Though I want to see if her artstyle with DC heroes work.
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>>94653628
I-Is... that a Bulge?
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>>94669590
Why would Doom steal a purse?
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>>94669464

I've read comics from drawn by Mobius where he puts arrows to tell you where to go.

You gonna shit on Mobius now?
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>>94653227
It's just not appealing whatsoever, I could see her doing this with either Doom or even Apocalypse but not the Eater of world's
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>>94669570
>>94669590
>>94669607

Nice stuff.
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>>94652819
I still prefer Guri's art, but I think the writing here carries it. I actually enjoy it, and it is not too "dense", if that made sense. Its spaced out nicely and give reasonable visual cues.
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>>94672114
>Its spaced out nicely
It nicely wastes space, yeah.
>>
Still doesn't make Squirrel girl a good character
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>>94669570
>>94669590
>>94669607


this is good. very good.
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So her superpower is... being ugly?
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>>94672279
And having a giant ass, yes
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>>94655649
Clearly. You all have triggered me.

>>94655699
Sure, I'd read that.

>>94658231
Nice reference, I love Fantastic 4.

>>94658570
I'm on lunch break faggot
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>>94652228
I actually made a video about this and her older work but never uploaded it.

She can actually draw when she tries, dig around her tumblr and you'll find some decent and pretty cool stuff, problem is she clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore.

I may be retarded, but I'm fairly certain she has no idea how light works though. See pic.
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>>94669570
>>94669590
>>94669607
That looks great!
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>>94653412
Yup. It took me this post and people defending the Emoji Movie of all things before realizing it, but /co/ has shit taste. It's beyond saving.
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>>94670790

The medical staff wasn't disfigured; it was that poor monster girl whom they were trying to cure that was the hideously-disfigured one.
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>>94673061

touché
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>>94663699

Flashforward 60 years old, your parents are dying.

>You are gonna starve soon.
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>>94672869
She works for Marvel, of course she doesn't give a fuck.
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>>94665853
Maybe he likes the parts he didn't complain about.
I mean there ARE comic recommend threads, storytimes, fun threads like reaction image threads, etc.
They're just stuck sharing with Shitpost that are often rerun and repeated like it were daytime tv and uncreative.
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>>94652388
cartoonists and animators have the shittiest income of any profession
thats why most of them commit suicide
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>>94668478

>Stop talking about this like you know how the human body works. You very clearly don't.

Look pal, when a woman's LYING DOWN her breasts are not going to be perky. Raising her arms above her head actually flattens them even more (source: I have fucking breasts!).

Stop talking as if you have breasts. You clearly don't.
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>>94672869
>problem is she clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore.
In order to work at Marvel, you have to stop giving a fuck at your work.
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>>94652022
I thought being unreasonably ugly was new squirrel grill's thing.
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>>94669570
>>94669590
>>94669607
your paneling is off as fuck
looks like the average black on blonde porn comic you find on paheal
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imagine wolverine making that ass bounce
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>>94675699
>>94675198
Yeah, very fucking lazy. She does these weird asymmetrical "style" choices that make absolutely no fucking sense and just looks like she didn't care enough to draw the rest.

This panel is the worst. Not showing the other cheekbone implies that there's more light hitting that side so it's less defined, at least that's what I would guess. But no, the light isn't hitting there, the dude just has a fucked up lazily drawn face.
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>>94652228
>I think her concept art of squirrel girl looks better.
it was.
agreed.

>>94672869
>She can actually draw when she tries, dig around her tumblr and you'll find some decent and pretty cool stuff, problem is she clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore.
Tossing two Eisners her way isn't going to help that giving a fuck part. She's doomed to be the Rob Liefeld of the new era at this rate.

>>94654692
>>94657621
>>94658570
>>94664730
>Erica
anon plz. Erica is way too busy to be here trifling with /co/.
That's clearly Ryan defending her.

>>94675587
>I have fucking breasts!
la de da and whoop de doo.
it's 2017 anon. with the right hormone cocktail anyone can have breasts now. stop being so breastist.

Squirrel Girl has enough boobs for her to not look like a 10 year old boy while laying down with her hands behind her head while wearing a furry bustier. You need to stop referencing your own flat saggy pancakes if you're gonna draw youthful superheroines.
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>>94652022
I think this comic gets a bad rap. it's actually quite funny. The funniest part is it's awful and the fact that Marvel keeps it afloat just to virtue signal about stronk feminine characters even though it's sales are abyssmal.
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>>94669570
>>94669590
>>94669607
It's not great but it's better than what gets published nowadays.
your composition leaves something to be desired. your art isn't leading the readers eyes from one panel to the other. the decisions you're making as to which panels are the ones meant to catch the readers eyes first are questionable.
study the cinematography of good films. learn how to frame your action better.

Marvel style storytelling traditionally focuses on dynamic energy. lots of foreshortening and diagonal lines. you'll want to focus on those first before tackle the weak contrast of your dull muddy lifeless colors.

There's loads of potential. keep studying and practicing your craft or course, but you could definitely be getting paid for the work you're doing as is. but don't let these anons gas your head up just because they're mad at Marvel's editorial and hiring decisions. there's still loads of work to do.
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>>94657660
It's cute and has this dynamism that fits Squirrel Girl.
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>>94669570
>I do 14-20 pages a month, full color
I'd like to see where these so-called "pages" are.
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>>94657660
this isn't "better" at all.
I can't push an agenda to this.
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>>94664266
A genuinely good idea inside of a Squirrel Girl thread? How rare.
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>>94657810
>>94656706
You guys don't seem to understand. There is a world of difference between a character being intended to be ugly and the artists being either unable or unwilling to draw an unattractive character.
>>94656848
So minor, you really didn't change anything at all. What exactly were you hoping to accomplish?
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>>94652022
"some guy on 4chan's /co/"

Stop shilling your shitty image you absolute faggot, you are not a deent artist, you are just a pathetic loser that has been trying to push your own picture for a month. Always the same words
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>>94678591
You seem upset.
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>>94664266
>Panda Mania.
why hasn't this happened already?
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are other squirrel girls allowed here?
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>>94678862
would help if I remembered to post the picture
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>>94678549
>You guys don't seem to understand. There is a world of difference between a character being intended to be ugly and the artists being either unable or unwilling to draw an unattractive character.
no you're just an idiot, she's not supposed to be ugly at all
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>>94676056

The principle I described applies to any size breast, really....except for implants, of course. I'm sorry porn has so thoroughly warped your perception of how breasts work, anon :(
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>>94679020
Not him but you need to get the fuck out :)
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>>94652819
She looks like what happens when Seras Victoria gets bitten by a radioactive beaver.
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>>94679020
>I'm sorry porn has so thoroughly warped your perception of how breasts work, anon :(
indeed.
maybe, just maybe, if I defend this shoddily drawn Squirrel Girl comic long enough I'll get over all the insecure body image issues all these super hero comic girls make me feel.
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