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Why did they have to make Cap a Nazi when Marvel claims to want

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Why did they have to make Cap a Nazi when Marvel claims to want to be socially conscious? The potential for great Cap stories is at an all-time high in this climate.
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He's not a nazi. Do you read Captain America? Do you, in fact, read comics?
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>>94602662
Hydra agents are close enough
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>>94602662
No, I just read the hubbub on the twitter
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>>94602637

Because patriotism is essentially suger coated facism.
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>>94602714
This is an old meme
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>>94602714
You know, one world globalism, European federalism, etc is just nationalism for a proposed nation, right?
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>>94602637
Anon, in this climate, no cis het white male is allowed to be socially conscious. Secret Empire and Captain Hydra was Marvel's attempt to discredit and bury Steve Rogers so they could make Sam WiIlson the one and only Captain America.
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>>94602749
Nah that's bullshit.

But ultimately HydraCap is because the social climate. And he's going to be back to normal ina few months so you can get all your typical Captain America speeches.
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He isn't a Nazi
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>>94602662
He's a leader of a fascist party that puts a minority group in concentration camps where medical experiments are performed on them.
That sounds pretty nazi to me.
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>>94602749
>In today's climate, more white males are subscribing to Conservatism, white supremacy, and /pol/-tier nazism
>White males now get triggered when Nazis and white supremacists are the bad guys in any form of media
>Bitch about Steve Rogers becoming one of them

I dont understand this.
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>>94602840
>And he's going to be back to normal ina few months
Only because the whole plan hilariously backfired as the SJWs thought it was Marvels way of saying Nazis are cool and nobody likes Sam Willson. Had reception not been so overwhelmingly poor, they would have gone through with it. You can tell just by reading Secret Empire and by all the extra issues that were added that they were planning on cementing Sam as THE Captain America while Steve would have been killed or something, but they changed it at the last second. Like the shoehorning of that weird story of Steve lost in the woods.
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>>94602884
That's not surprising. Keep at it. Perhaps you'll work out why one day.
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>>94602963
If you say so anon.
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>>94602637
That's a question I've been asking for a while.
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>>94602963
You must not have been reading comics for very long. Take it from a fan of over 30 years: things change in comics all the time, sometimes for a year or two, but they always go back to the way they were. Even Wolverine is coming back.
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>>94602637
You'll get that in the new Cap book after Secret Empire. Written by Mark Waid.
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>>94602637

Not a Nazi in a literal sense, but definitely a fascist. This is definitely one of the worst times to turn the pinnacle of moral uprightness in Marvel into a shitbag fascist however.

Captain Hydra was never a long-term or permanent characterization anyways, so I dunno why people are getting so hung up on it, I mean it's not like he chose to be this way, it took a reality-bending cosmic MacGuffin to turn him into this.
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>>94602637
In what climate? Summer? Because it sure feels like summer around here.
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>>94602637
They thought Hillary would win. So they weren't ready for a world of Trump.
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>>94602637
Captain America was brainwashed by the Cosmic Cube into thinking that he's really a Hydra Agent by the Red Skull. It didn't work because even when brainwashed, Steve hates the Skull and won't hesitate to kill him the moment he gets the chance.

Captain America in Secret Empire is supposed to be a full blown Super villain not a Nazi. It's just that a decade of pundits and critics comparing their critics to various politicians ended up causing people to compare Hydra to Nazis.
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>>94603166
I thought Coates was taking over Cap?
Between the two, I'd much rather read Coates' take.
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