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What's the worst concept for a character out there?

Pic related, its fucking embarrasing that Gwenpool is a thing, honestly shit like that makes comic books in general look bad
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>>94575257
but DUDE STRONK FEMALE CHARACTER LMAO never mind the fact she's an entitled cunt
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>>94575281

Pretty sure this post makes comic books look bad a magnitude higher than anything Gwenpool has done.
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>>94575257
ITT anon tries to pretend he hates something because "it's bad" and not because it has a woman in it.
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>>94575310
muh strawmen arguements bait lmao
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>>94575313
If its so ''good'' why don't you post a FUNNY page from it?
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>>94575386
can you articulate why you think its bad?
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>>94575474
>>94575367
>>94575281
>>94575257

Might want to show some proof, cause right now you just talking out your ass
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>>94575313
Are you implying anything with a female character can't be bad?
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>>94575474
>>94575518


The comedy is terrible, they never do anything creative or original with it, they never set up jokes with a pay off at the end, there is nothing funny about this book and clearly the book is trying to be funny and ''cute'' with really poor attempts at comedy.

Post a FUNNY page from the book if that's not the case
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>>94575257
Man its like you can tell when the anti Gwen fag wakes up.
The story time preview thread went to shit the same time this thread was made.
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>>94575546
I would have to post everything, the comic is pure gold but if you could post a particular scene you hate I would love to see why it upset you so much
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>>94575537
no, I'm implying /co/ is super transparent in their motivations.
>>94575546
i don't keep scans, i buy floppies, besides what's the point. We've been down this road before anon. You've already made up your mind and it doesn't mater what anyone posts as it won't reach your standards of being FUNNY
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>>94575546
It's not a comedy book
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>>94575566
Honestly at this point you just have to admire the dedication,
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>>94575586
Of course it is. It's a story about a female Deadpool who wears pink. If it wasn't a comedy, she would be singing and teaching children about friendship and sharing.
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>>94575582
>it doesn't mater what anyone posts as it won't reach your standards of being FUNNY

I bet he finds this funny
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>>94575615
really it's a fish out of water story
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>>94575615
Dramedy

You laugh, you cry and then you laughcry
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>>94575257
>Marvel has several cool female characters that never got a solo book
>shit like Gwenpool, Moon Girl and nuWasp got ongoings right out of the bat
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>>94575571
t. Marvel Drone who would lap up The Adventures of The Stupendous Shit if the Marvel logo was slapped on the cover
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In general, the Inhumans were a mistake
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>>94575281
Every modern Marvel "strong female character" is written the exact same fucking way.

I am tired of Marvel introducing characters that follow this archetype:
>Teenager
>Genius / "Super-genius"
>Funny, i.e. quip a lot, even in serious/dangerous situations
>Incredibly powerful, nothing seems to be a challenge to them, leading to lack of growth/stakes
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>>94575546
What are the objective criteria for "funny"? Unless we determine that, you'll potentially be able to brush everything off as "not funny" because we have no idea about your criteria.
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>>94575763
translation: no i can't so I'm just going to say you're a shill instead.
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>>94575257
What makes it look bad? Cause you sound like a whiny asshole when you say shit like
>HURR I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT'S BAD
Explain yourself
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>>94575780
T. Never read Gwenpool

Gwen is none of those things
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>>94575474

Not OP but just look at the character. She's a girl wearing a pink Deadpool costume. The sole reason she exists is to try and cash in on Deadpool's surge in popularity. Her name is Gwen, they call the book Gwenpool and most people assume it's about Gwen Stacy.
This character started her career as an alternate universe Gwen Stacy who is a character Marvel needs to move the fuck on from. Then they retroactively made her last name Poole.
Everything about this character is cheap and lazy. And the single most depressing thing about her is she's probably the most successful character Marvel has come up with in the last quarter of a century. She's a great reminder that a creative medium is creatively bankrupt.
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>>94575861
>she's probably the most successful character Marvel has come up with in the last quarter of a century
That's Kamala, Gwenpool never drew a single dime.
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>>94575849
yes she is, she is the one that makes jokes in every situation and that's her whole character, is lame as shit.

Again, post a page from the book that proves that's not the case.
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>>94575861
>This character started her career as an alternate universe Gwen Stacy who is a character Marvel needs to move the fuck on from. Then they retroactively made her last name Poole.

none of that is true anon.
The art concept was from a month of alternate covers featuring gwen stacy. The character concept was separate and has always been Gwen Poole.

Shit like this makes it super easy to tell the people who have actually read the comic and dislike it, vs people who just don't like the concept and pretend it's because the book is bad.
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>>94575763
Gwenpool was the first comic book I ever thought about buying because I enjoyed the storytimes. I don't care about anything else. My LCS even pointed out to me that I only buy gwenpool.
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>>94575861
Fucking this.
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>>94575924
That's why you find it so good. You really don't know any better.
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>>94575849
>N-N-N-NO SHE'S NOT!
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>>94575924
The state of the Gwenpool waifufaggots.
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>>94575923
You retard
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>>94575923
>The art concept was from a month of alternate covers featuring gwen stacy.

And the concept for that cover was GWEN stacy as deadPOOL

GWENPOOL
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>>94575257
>Gwenpool
>Worst character

End yourself OP
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>>94575979

W-wikipedia people just didn't read her comic!!! They hate her because she is popular! The other day we made a Gwenpool thread that got 300 replies! see?? Popular as fuck!
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>>94575999
Looks like that awful page from "Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe". The "Your power is popularity!!" page.
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>>94575996
post a FUNNY or CREATIVE AS SHIT page from it to see how actually good the book is then
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>>94575908
You've already proven to us that there is no changing your mind. Why do you hate quips? In a fucking Marvel comic? Your standards for humor are probably autistically high and you should just stop trying to get a kick out of Marvel comics. It always manages to get a chuckle from me here and there.

Gwenpool isn't even entirely a comedy series. It's just a standard comic with ups and downs. I don't need to validate your irrational hate boner for a fucking comic. That's on you.
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>>94575979
how does that contradict anything i said?
make sure you pay attention in that english class when you go back to jr high anon. Your reading comprehension is super low.

find me one instance where she's called Gwen Stacy.
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>>94576032

How about....

>>94575999

That page?
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>>94575999
That's not going to trigger anyone with common sense who read the comic, because they both diss each other and make up afterwards.

Why is this used as bait?
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>>94575999
and then they exchange a couple of lines about how they are both inside a comic book and somehow that means that they are friends, the end!

The anticipated first encounter with Deadpool and he didnd't even had a reason to be there, the fight scene was a 100% generic, nothing inventive, creative or FUN about it and then everything gets solved without effort.

Even her ''wounds'' get healed via magic seconds later, literally zero consequences, shit
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>>94575950
>No argument
>Le funny meme
>Lol I'm so fucking smug
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>Muh self awareness and 4th wall break

It's decent if used sparingly but from the screencaps I see she does that all the time. Is it really like that? Those writers need some more subtlety. How can the fans eat all that up?
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>>94576035
>Gwenpool isn't even entirely a comedy series.

the comic clearly is trying to be really comedic, don't play dumb now because the plot lines are so weak that I highly doubt that they are the main selling point
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>>94575979

Anon, she says right in the book she's not Gwen Stacy.
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>>94576017
How does /co/ decides which characters are popular or not?

Namor can't sell a fucking book nor is well-known yet is an A-lister according to some, while Dick Grayson, who outsells Captain America and is one of the most popular characters in the world is a C-lister. Gwenpool is popular, but Aquaman isn't. Nova is popular, but Blue Bettle isn't...

Is /co/ made of dumb Marvelfags?
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>>94576041
>find me one instance where she's called Gwen Stacy.

she was created during the Gwen Stacy month, don't play retard

>>94576053

there is nothing interesting about it, just a guy hitting a girl a couple of times, doesn't look like it hurts and then the whole thing gets solved one page later, frieeeends forever!!!

If anything it just goes to show how bad the writting is
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>>94576086
Ok man. You obviously know far more than me about this subject. I concede that your tastes will remain shit forever.
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>>94576069
>The anticipated first encounter with Deadpool and he didnd't even had a reason to be there, the fight scene was a 100% generic, nothing inventive, creative or FUN about it and then everything gets solved without effort.

you obviously didn't read that issue.
He was the boss monster for the dungeon they were in. It was a dnd parody issue, which is FUN for people who enjoy dnd. Or there's the fact that the art changes as Deadpool takes over the narrative as the main 4th wall breaker. That was Creative, and i doubt you can find another instance of it which would make it innovative too.
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>>94576041
>how does that contradict anything i said?
Because her original concept was Gwen Stacy, not Gwen Poole. Poole came later when Marvel needed an excuse to justify her existence.
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>>94576078
>How can the fans eat all that up?
Because they're Marvel fans.
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>>94576110
>she was created during the Gwen Stacy month, don't play retard

Translation: I can't so i'm changing my argument from 'they retroactively changed her name' to it's obvious and you're just retarded.

you will never find an instance, even on that cover where she's referred to as gwen stacey.
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>>94576162
C'mon now.

This is like saying that the Mary Janes covers in the Mary Jane month aren't about Mary Jane, but "Mary Frank" and shit like this.

I think that even Gwenpool fans have to recognize that she was created as "Gwen Stacy + Deadpool".
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>>94576162
You're splitting hairs to suit your narrative. She was Gwen Stacy as Deadpool in a variant cover before she was Gwen Poole. That's a fact.

Unrelated, but ask anyone who cosplays her (the main reason her book even exists) and they'll say she's Gwen Stacy.
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>>94576078
>not liking comics where the characters themselves break panel layouts and fuck around with their own story
if you're not gonna eat any I'll have your share
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>>94575257
>anti-Gwenfags
Embarrassing.
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>>94576199
Yes she was that Litterally her origin but now she's neither
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>>94576199
>>94576201
since none of you read up the thread to catch the whole argument i'll say it again.
The art concept for the character came from those gwen stacy alt covers.

Someone saw that picture and was like "I could make a character out of that."

The character concept.. everything about her besides the art (which if you look at the face she doesn't even resemble gwen stacy) is and has always been Gwen Poole.

anon claiming they retroactively changed her name and then posting a wikipedia screengrab to prove it is all bullshit.
There's never been any instance, even on that cover where she's referred to as gwen stacey. (besides deadpool pointing out that everyone probably just thinks that anyway)
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I don't even read her comics but she's 10x better then any other Marvel female character right now. Nu-Carol is the worst
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>>94575763
>I have no arguments so I resort to literal shit analogies
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I hate that the MEGA MAN BOOTS retard has managed to convince other people of the quality of the comic without reading it.
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>>94576335
>The art concept for the character came from those gwen stacy alt covers.
not true, she was not a character before the covers
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>>94575999
Huh... I thought it was Gwen Stacey
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>>94575281
>she's an entitled cunt
Because Frank Castle is a nice guy and not a murderous asshole?
Deathstroke is also just a nice guy.

But when it's a female character, it's a problem somehow...
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>>94578032
>Because Frank Castle is a nice guy and not a murderous asshole?
>Deathstroke is also just a nice guy.
difference being that they head some real drama going on, not ''my life sucks because I don't want to get a job and I rather play video games!''

then she is rewarded with mary sue powers inside a comic book world, just what she wanted and what's her biggest problem there? people saying mean things to her...
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>>94575257
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>>94575281
>never mind the fact she's an entitled cunt

I don't even read or like Gwenpool but the amount of projection here is transparent as a paper thin glass window. I'm so fucking tired of every argument for something being "LOL SHE HAS A VAGINA SO SHE DUMB LMAO". Like, at least come up with some with substance, like, "she serves no purpose as a character other than constant comedic relief and pandering to Deadpool fans and millennials who are new to comics." You don't exactly look any less entitled when you're triggered by the mere existence of a female character or a female writer. you could always, just, ya know, not pay to read the book. not give them money. protest them in others ways aside from "LOL FEMINISM!", which implies the character and story would've been inherently better if written by a male or if Gwenpool pandered more to your viewpoints instead of Tumblr or something.

I guarantee if a character was announced tomorrow called Nationalist Man who was for everything /pol/ spouts, you and all your cronies would be sucking his cock. that's entitlement, when you're picky with how fictional characters are portrayed. its petty as hell and pathetic.
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>>94576065
>Why is this used as bait?
The "everyone who doesn't read your comic thinks you're gwen stacy" line.
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Why does everyone think she's Gwen Stacy? Aside from looks and her first name being Gwen, she has no real connection to her. Have you all tried...actually reading the comics?
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>>94575257
You make comics look bad with your constant nerd bitching.

Gwenpool bitch
Rick and Morty bitch
Gwenpool whine
Rick and Morty complain

How about you start a thread about comics you DO enjoy..?
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>>94578568
>How about you start a thread about comics you DO enjoy..?

because that'd require them to use their brain to form substantive points instead of just saying "DIS SUCKS! SO OVERRATED, RICK AND MEMEY AND FEMINISM SUCKS, LOL!"
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>>94578497
See >>94578349
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>>94578349
Rewarded? She's being forced to turn into something she does not Wana be.
A villan
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>>94577931
the reading comprehension on /co/ today is at a first grade level.
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>>94579231
>Rewarded? She's being forced to turn into something she does not Wana be.
>A villan

we all know that its not going to happen

>>94579280
your point is still wrong
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>>94579313
You're just an idiot.
My statement: "The concept for the characters look came from those alt covers."
your statement. "No it didn't retard, it came from those gwen stacy alt covers!"

try reading the whole post next time instead of stopping at the line you want to refute.
context is king.
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>>94579313
It already happend
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>>94575281
>DUDE STRONK FEMALE CHARACTER LMAO
I haven't read all of Gwenpool, but "strong" is not the word I'd use.
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>>94579395
>It already happend
and then its going to be erased from history and from ever happening and she is going to get a generic happy ending because this book is all about safe space tier adventures
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>>94579570
>safe space tier adventures
i swear you can tell when Anon learns a new phrase cause they shoehorn it in everywhere even when it doesn't fit.
It reminds me of when toddlers are learning to speak.
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>>94579612
>i swear you can tell when Anon learns a new phrase cause they shoehorn it in everywhere even when it doesn't fit.
>It reminds me of when toddlers are learning to speak.

all her problems get solved like one page later after they happen.

>friend dies
>doesn't matter, he comes back as a ghost
>get thrown in hail?
>doesn't spend a single day inside
>facing bad guys???
>she can defeat even M.O.D.O.K like if it was nothing.

Also the filler artists are the WORST among all of marvel
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>>94579705
That's quick drama resolution Anon.
not a safe space.

keep going though, someday we'll teach you what words actually mean.

I honestly have no defense against your last point though, the filler art has been garbage tier.
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>>94579784
>That's quick drama resolution Anon.

yes, bad writting because having REAL and LASTING consequences for her actions would disrrupt the safe space
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>>94575257
Why are you still trying to create a hatebase when the last attempt to do so hilariously backfired into her current popularity?
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>>94579821
>gwenpool
>popularity
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>>94579838
The delusion is real
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>>94579821
>e when the last attempt to do so hilariously backfired into her current popularity?

her sales are terrible and her toys don't sell either
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>>94579838
>>94579849
> A dedicated thread almost every day
>Has managed to spread into a waifu for multiple boards that wouldn't have known she existed if it wasn't for an anon trying to false flag up a hatebase via spamming her everywhere
>not popular
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>>94575257
The entire meta narative of "I'm actually a main comic character so I can't die" is honestly boring and lazy. Gwen as a hero isn't interesting either, she is literally like every other quip-y superhero Marvel has shat out in the last 5 years except she can also make jokes about comics IN the comics! Riveting stuff.
Also seeing her reasoning for wanting to abandon her real life and jump into a comic makes me wanna barf.
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>>94579807
>consequences for her actions would disrupt the safe space
you keep using that word in the wrong context anon.
Safe space: a place without criticism.
you will never find a definition that includes "no consequences for your actions."
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>>94579872
None of the things you've mentioned indicate popularity. But I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
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>>94579893
yes, and they have Gwenpool never facing consequences for her actions as to not trigger the tumblrina marvel audience, to AVOID CRITCISM
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>>94580389
>not trigger the tumblrina

look. Theres those buzzwords that Anon just learned again.

IDK anon, we're obviously going to go around and around because you ether lack the comprehension to understand what i'm saying or you're just trolling and both are equally faggy.
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>>94580389
Keep revving up those fantasies of yours, man

>The TRIGGERED audience will stop being triggered because a dead guy shows up as a ghost at some point while blaming Gwen for it
I mean, i don't even know why I'm explaining this, the idea that one reads Gwenpool's in search of a "safe space" is ridiculous on principle and you only think of it for unrelated stuff you blame marvel for. Unless your idea of safe space is fun read, in which case i guess I'm sorry the book didn't turn out to be Sin city level of dark? You know that lighthearted doesn't equate bad writing (or tumblr writing i presume), right?
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>>94580550
it warms my heart that anytime the poster # goes up in this thread, it's someone new telling anon to shut down their sameposting faggotry.
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>>94580600
I should stop coming in these threads, really, because it's either literally the same guy shitposting over and over or more simply his kind of views are the "popular" ones that get mindlessly presented as truthful more easily by clueless idiots, it's repetitive and tiring

But that depresses me. I keep finding topics that i have to add to my metaphorical "avoid to mention on 4chan" list because they only lure out the worst in people
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>>94580600
>it warms my heart that anytime the poster # goes up in this thread, it's someone new telling anon to shut down their sameposting faggotry.
its a cellphone poster, the one that keeps dumping the same gwenpool pics all the time.

because its weird to see that many people joining the conversation just to shut up one guy with ''lmao your wrong'' comments without taking part on the rest of the thread
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>>94580868
The entire thread is basically discussing the same topic, i simply joined the most recent replies chain. Or should i try refute stuff that was said 4 hours ago?

And wow, i fucking knew you'd mention the pics dumping, i was about to use one for the post but then i realized that'd just give you another reason to say stupid shit, because somebody like (you) always mentions it to fuel their prosecution complex. Apparently that's not even necessary, you were already in the thread itching to accuse somebody of dumping too many Gwen pics whether the dumping started or not

But no, i don't dump stuff. I'm the one that once (around last week i think?) asked a guy to indeed dump pics so i could collect some, do you remember me too since you feel so involved in this crusade of yours?
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>>94581008
>The entire thread is basically discussing the same topic, i simply joined the most recent replies chain. Or should i try refute stuff that was said 4 hours ago?

sure buddy, and the upcoming ''lol, Gwenpool is cute!!'' comments with the SAME pics that you see again and again in these threads are also different guys
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>>94581430
Not him but she is really cute. Can't blame people for noticing it.
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>>94575546
>Just say "I don't think it's funny" five times with different wording
Don't even bother trying to argue the quality of anything, you fucking idiot. Just be happy with what you like and dislike and try to stay out of any discussion that requires thought.
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cant wait for gwentuurd to become mainstream so /co/ hates it. its deadpool for hipsters at the moment.
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>>94582329
We'll hate her when she gets popular enough to start being written by different people. Her few appearances in other books has shown that Hastings is the only one who can write her.
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>>94582377
The aperance of her in that rocket/groot team up was OK, but other than that, yes she's been a complete mess outside her own book.

Isn't that like par for most comics though? guest writers often don't "Get" a character and write them out of character all the time.
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>>94575763
Nah i dont read Squirrel Girl
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>>94583145
>>94582377

I was about to argue Venomverse but realized that was writtn by Hastings too. Damn you guys are right then, I remember her Champions cameo and honestly it felt like it was written by the Op. Never read or saw her but wrote her a an idiot due to a weird dislike of the character.
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I like Gwenpool as long as she's written by Hastings. She leans too much on 4th wall shit and memespeak when anyone else does her.
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Its really weird that people have such hate for a character that isn't even popular, and is a C- Lister at best.
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>>94577196
>tfw I actually like them
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>>94583441
A list super duper populer. Litterally the new Wolverine
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Gwenpool herself is pretty fucking bad I agree, but what they ended up doing with Gwen Poole can be actually very entertaining too bad the writing is shit and it only works in a very specific artstyle.
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>>94575546
before you said
>post a GOOD page
why did you change it to "funny"?
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>>94585487

Because that anon is a chronic shitposter who has been doing the same spiel in Gwenpool threads for over a year.
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>>94575386
If animal man is so ''good'' why don't you post a FUNNY page from it?
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