I feel like it's kind of dickish for Harmon and Roiland

>>94490720
Roiland hates it, he's a known misogynist but can't speak out for fear of being lynched. He's probably here right now, shitposting in his only safe space

>>94490808
He's not a misogynist, he just makes jokes about it. But good job falling into the retarded tumblr callout hype and having that go completely over your head.

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>>94490720
Well, everyone has been okay (to varying degrees) with all the episodes of seasons 1 & 2. And everyone seemed to like the first episode of the third season. But people seem to hate the 2nd and 3rd, and the 4th ones preview looks pretty pedestrian. I wonder what changed.

>>94490888
Dude I literally just made that up, does he actually make jokes about hating women?

Can you tell me what sort of "Hyping up female writers" there has been? Outside you screeching banshees who would know?

>>94491329
Well, there's another thread about it, but here:
>>94489796
and here:
>>94489260

And not to mention the huge switch in names in writers in the post above.

I'm looking to your counterargument with SJWy "correlation isn't causation" and other defense of womens shitty writing skills.

>>94491329
How about all the interviews about how great it is that they're hiring female writers that started this shit in the first place?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/rick-and-morty-creators-how-hiring-female-writers-made-season-3-the-best-yet
http://www.thewrap.com/rick-and-morty-gender-balanced-writers-room-female-writers-dan-harmon-justin-roiland/
https://www.themarysue.com/rick-and-morty-female-writers/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/rick-morty-creators-finales-challenges-828683

>>94491303
Watch literally any of his streams and you'll find out.

>>94490720
>Isn't the point to treat everyone like just "a writer" in the room
If that were the point, I doubt we'd even know they had vaginas in the room because they would actually just be writers.

>>94491437
>>94491405
>get asked about new writers
>talk about new writers
Jesus christ. you guys are really onto something here.

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Seriously.

>>94491329
>>94491480
Hole detected.

I was afraid this would happen but I'm not surprised.

Another one for the garbage can. Scoot over, Futurama.

>>94491437
How can some blitering idiot write that drivel and get paid for it while I'm struggling to pay bills by whoring out my smiles as a waiter. What does that writer have that I don't? Shamelessness?

>>94491509
>phoneposting

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>>94490720
Honestly, the issue isn't overhyping the women writers or that they hired women writers in general - it's that they hired female writers who's claim to fame was "Back at the Barnyard" and "Annoying Orange".

>>94491526
Connections most likely. Probably good timing as well, I doubt they took much more care in their search for talent than "hire the first vagina that applies."

>>94491526
How do you know that they're getting paid well, though? They could be forced to shit out a quota of articles per day just to get paid like $500 a week.

>>94491578
I wouldn't say one's previous experience makes up the entirety of their skill, because talented people DO work on shit.

I mean, Roiland's credentials were fucking garbage before Rick & Morty. And look at Doc & Mharti, you would think he's some shitty Newgrounds-esque artist.

>>94491509
Yes, people seriously use popular first-result images on Google. They also seriously post about shows that just had new episodes the day prior. How crazy is that?

>>94491278
You know, all the writers write the whole episode together.

Just because someone's name is on the episode doesn't mean they had any more or less input than they usually would.

The only reason that they credit single people for writing in rick and morty is because Harmon wants everyone in the writers room to have had their name on a script at some point. (They also get bonus pay when they are credited as writer).

Everyone complained about the female writing credit on episode 2 but the truth is, she only wrote 1 line in the entire episode.

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8qeiCqfmp8&feature=youtu.be&t=2322

>>94490888
what he is doing is called "virtue signaling"

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>>94492060
Ah,so they just put her name on it like a participation trophy?

And Gao was taking a bow for "her script" without writing more than a few lines, despite her saying it was "her script getting made into an episode"?

So either they're liars and taking credit for others work, or they're writing a significant amount of it and they wrote shit.

Either way, bad for women. And you didn't see this sorta grandstanding with Ridley, Kaufman or Phillips.

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>>94490720
You know what? Fuck you. No one fucking cares about /tv/ and /pol/s autistic hatred for rick and morty so you cal all fucking shut up about it and stop posting pickle rick shitposts because your so retarded that "womyns" are seeping into everything. Nobody fucking cares

>>94491278
Who is everyone and where did everyone convene to agree on this?

>>94491303
http://whatdidrickandmortyfuckup.tumblr.com/post/126645420494/frequently-asked-questions-we-just-made-up-and

There's a callout blog tumblr that says he sure does.

>>94492406
>no one cares
Then why have there been countless threads from even before the episode came out on this subject?

>>94491480
>get asked about new writers
>respond with how the new addition of women helped make this season better than the previous ones, how the synergy of balanced sexes helps creativity flow like a well oiled menstrual cycle, and put their new women writers front and center for the face of season 3
>rather than saying, "oh yeah, we have new writers. some of them are women, but why is that important?".

>>94492470
Here.

I'm sure you're a fan. Because Women.

>>94492341
>And you didn't see this sorta grandstanding with Ridley, Kaufman or Phillips.

Yes you did. They did this for every season.
They just try to make it so every writer has at least one episode with their name on it.

They write all the episodes together, and it'd be weird to have everyone's names on every script, so when they need a name to put on the script, they just rotate around.

>>94490720
God you people are fucking stupid. You see evil feminists in every cloud and tea leaf, just waiting to pounce out and castrate you.

You know who wrote every fucking line of dialogue in this episode, especially the ones from the therapist and from Beth? DAN FUCKING HARMON. He rewrites every single script. It doesn't matter who's credited. He did this on Community too. He's the culprit, always has been. This imaginary assault from women is just your dick getting in the way of your brain. If you love the episode, thank Harmon. If you hate it, blame Harmon. It's ALL HIM GUYS. You don't need a fucking feminist conspiracy for once.

Those articles "thanking" women writers for the season are BS clickbait that dont understand how writers rooms work. Adult Swim allows it because they like publicity and have gotten in hot water in the past about female issues. But this whiny feminist conspiracy shit from you guys is even fucking dumber and more embarrassing than those articles because it shows such a deep lack of understanding about TV writing

HARMONs the one guys. FOCUS

>>94492566
I mean, what do you want from them? "Yeah our writers are new and normal we don't give a fuck" isn't really a slamming PR decision when asked about their first season with women if everyone asks over and over and over again. I imagine the only thing that would appease everyone would be saying their female writers had the credits on other shows to get the job and they met the same standards their past male writers did but that's inanely boring shit people generally already realize. Free PR to talk up the vaginas in the room isn't the end of the world.

>>94490720
>I feel like it's kind of dickish for Harmon and Roiland to be harping up their new female employees up for PR points rather than just letting them fucking work

Jesus Christ who gives a shit. Just talk about the show, or don't. Who cares about this other shit.

>>94492511
>As the Pope of Feminism once said
And you fell for a false flag

>>94491437
Adult Swim got in trouble last year when the head of the channel got caught saying women aren't funny. This is Adult Swim doing aggressive PR to cover their asses. Not Justin/Dana fault. You act like show creators are in charge of their PR- but there's a whole team doing that shit.

>>94492785
Nononono! We don't see that at all.

We just think they're talentless and awful. And I don't like to see them get any credit or win at anything. Women are awful, and deserve the worst in life. Worst thing that ever happened was playing along and letting them think they had a say in things. Like the 19th amendment comes along and then suddenly you can't shut them up about anything.

From Carrie Nation with her bitching about drinking to the current nagfest about inclusion. I mean, if half of the women in tech would do something technical or even write about something technical instead of writing about "women in tech" and the lack of it, there would probably be more women hired in tech. Same with writing. If they spent less time pumping each other up with their "you go girl"'s, and more time honing the craft they do for a living, they might be better writers. And then dan wouldn't have to rewrite their terrible dialog and still leave in enough to make them feel worthwhile but still ruin the episode.

>>94491303
>>94490808
he literally used to browse 4chan, listen to his old podcast "The Grandma's Virginity Podcast" and he mentions it. pretty sure it's in episode 16 or something.

>>94490720
They were "diversity hires". It does not serve the purpose of "diversity hires" if you don't showcase them every where you can. Because the ONLY important thing about them is: They have a vagina.

>>94492996
Jesus is this what happens when you're a 30 year old virgin. Get layed anon. You need it

>>94492742
All of this shit is controlled precisely by Writers' Guild Bylaws. You're talking utter shit. They are prohibited from doing as you described, throwing a random person's name on a random script as a participation trophy. Doesn't work like that.

>>94492996
Dan rewrites everyone's dialogue. Always. Your hateboner for women and your hateboner for this show have nothing to do with each other. Also if your hateboner lasts more than 72 hours, consult a physician

>>94493125
31. And a HALF.

>>94492521
Because this charade proves everyone on /co/s a fucking faggot

>>94490720
Please keep making these threads they are so satisfying

>>94493144
You are so ducking dumb

A writer gets assigned a script. They do the first draft. Their name is put on it.

After that the script is "tabled"- the whole room does a rewrite. After that the showrunner does their pass. If it's Dan, he rewrites almost the entire thing.

Because of residual rules, everyone agrees to let the "original" writer get sold credit even though very little (if any) of what they wrote remains

So it's not "random" you fucking armchair quarterback dipshit. It's causal. That said, the script may not have any of the "writer"a work in it at all

While there have been a few bad episodes of rick and morty written by men. It is not a good start that the 2 episodes written by women have been pretty unfunny and boring.

I know it is cliche, but women just aren't good at writing jokes for whatever reason. There are only a handful of women I truly find funny. Let's hope the next episodes are at least watchable.

>>94493232
That sounds kinda shitty really. Who could work like that?

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>>94490720
>/co/ constantly shits on Rick and Morty
>there's seven threads up all bitching about the last episode

You faggots are just fueling the fire with your intense hate-boner for this shit. Just stop giving it attention if you hate it so much, fucking christ, get your shit together. Put it all in a bag or something, I don't care, just get your shit together.

>>94496695
>just fueling the fire with your intense hate-boner for this shit
Give it time. This shit is going to come to a head.

Guys like you were saying it was no good to get mad about politics, we were just going to have to watch things get worse forever, but our getting mad about shit and spreading the word helped get Trump elected.

People are becoming aware of the problem of cliques of untalented women elbowing their way into corporations with false claims of systematic discrimination, and then destroying their products and the invested capital. It's becoming more acceptable to notice it. When it's acceptable to notice it, they're going to start dismissing these cliques en-masse and not repeating the mistake.

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>>94497183
>helped trump get elected


BULLSHIT!! trump got elected because the ruling class would rather his dumbass be in office rather than bernie sanders because socialism actually does help people and the rich don't like it. GO FUCK YOURSELF. i don't give a fuck about your capital. if you really hate liberals then be a socialist, because i gauran-fucking-tee you liberals hate socialists more than conservatives

>>94491437
You got a habit of blaming content creators for what the media says about them, anon? That's exactly like hating a show if it has a terrible fanbase.

>>94497183
>and then destroying their products and the invested capital
Sources, son? There's tons of finance data that show hiring women in management has made many fortune 500 companies even more profitable.

>>94498278
Except many of those cases are the result of what they said in interviews, not just them pulling bullshit to fit their own agenda.

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>>94498040
i dunno who's falseflagging anymore

>>94498384
Who cares? There's stuff that annoys me about nearly every show I consume, but I won't drop them if they manage to entertain me.

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>>94498411
Fun, right?

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>>94490720
A bit of a tangent, but god the art in this show is fucking awful.

>>94490720


>>94498230
>>94498409

>>94498411
>Alphinaud has no idea when or if he's being rused or not.

Sounds about right.

>>94491526
They either know a dick, sucked a dick or are a dick who knows some dick.

>>94498459
Did you mean to move your goalpost or did it just wildly slip out of your hands there?

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>>94490720
>"we're so glad your vagina could be present, it's good feng shui for the writers room!"

>>94492932
>Adult Swim got in trouble last year when the head of the channel got caught saying women aren't funny. This is Adult Swim doing aggressive PR to cover their asses.
Well they should have just kept on chugging without any fucks given.
Apologizing doesn't work in this kind of scenario. All it does is let the offended smell your blood in the water.

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>>94497183
>Guys like you were saying it was no good to get mad about politics, we were just going to have to watch things get worse forever, but our getting mad about shit and spreading the word helped get Trump elected.
>People are becoming aware of the problem of cliques of untalented women elbowing their way into corporations with false claims of systematic discrimination, and then destroying their products and the invested capital. It's becoming more acceptable to notice it. When it's acceptable to notice it, they're going to start dismissing these cliques en-masse and not repeating the mistake.

...please God tell me this is bait and you're not unironically posting this. Holy fuck.

I actually prefer all the "concerned Rick and Morty fans" threads on /tv/ that are just about arguing that the holocaust never happened.

>>94497183
>but our getting mad about shit and spreading the word helped get Trump elected.
just lol if you think all the old faggots who showed up to the polls were influenced by frog memes and not the multimillion dollar campaign and nearly 24/7 news coverage he got during the election.

I don't doubt that memes got him a few votes from normally apolitical losers who wanted to have a laugh, but saying that it amounted to anything more than a rounding error is just the most hilarious shit.

>>94498985
But you don't understand anon, Pepe showed up a couple of times on FOX, that was the thing that swayed the 50+ year olds who getting sick of the SJW movement and were unemployed, living in rural areas, and feeling neglected to vote for him!

>>94498040
>a real bernie bro

Nice Venezuela you have there faggot.

>NOT REAL SOCIA-

Go fuck yourself people are dieing because of leftists like you.

>>94498934
>I actually prefer all the "concerned Rick and Morty fans" threads on /tv/ that are just about arguing that the holocaust never happened.

I never really understood the logic behind that argument. It's always guys who really hate the Jews who are saying it, but wouldn't those be exactly the kind of people who'd be just jazzed as fuck about that exact situation?

What gives? They're already advocating all kinds of heinous shit, so why make this big song and dance about how they never did it?

>>94499079
And people die all the time because of hard right shit too.

It's because people are shit at governing each other regardless of their espoused philosophy because at the end it always comes down to power.

>>94490720
the point is to make money

>>94498985
I love the idea that people who sit in their Mom's basement whining about their video games and cartoons for ages 5-8 having a female speak or show up in the background is oppressing them are accomplishing big important things, fuck they are the Great Men and leaders of our time. The last U.S. election had nothing to do with the economy or just people hating Hillary since the 90s or Trump voters having their own valid opinions based on their own life experiences, no, it was soley about the brave and heroic men of /pol/ shitposting le meme frog and getting buttblasted about their embarrassing juvenile hobbies and talking about the defining issue of our time: a chink made a joke about a fucking talking pickle. What heroes.

>>94495464
Every sitcom writer for 6 decades?
other than John Swartzwelder of The Simpsons, he wrote more episodes than anyone else without sitting at the writer's table, rather he hammered out his scripts while smoking cigarettes in a diner and they went into production verbatim as written.

>>94498582
I'm not going to check my privilege everytime I want to make a base observation, cupcake.

>>94499094
So you can quietly set up to do it again. That's the dream, anyway.

94499645
Not even an argument in there, not even worth the (you).

>>94499204
We have a winner! It's like burger king serving rainbow wrapped food. You think they give a shit about faggots?

>>94490720
It's becoming more and more apparent that a vast majority of 4chan really needs to get laid.

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>>94500043
I find it very weird people are treating OP's post as the same as the "fuck women" threads. OP is saying virtually the opposite and that they should be treated as writers, not as women writers.

>>94500043
It's not rational, I know, the hatred building in me for these little faggot /pol/tard fucks living life on the most extreme easy mode posdible, but fuck them. I have a family to provide for now, I had cancer. These whiney little babies whose biggest problem in life is a girl writing an episode of a cartoon show they don't even watch can burn in Hell now for all I care. Maybe if they weren't shoving their shit down my throat every damn time I try to unwind from work I wouldn't be so hateful though.

>>94491643
House of Cosbys was legitimately great.
Doc and Mharti was fun. It's not for everyone's taste, like whiskey. But like whiskey, it has a fun little kick to it.

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>>94490720
>have your dream show made thanks to being friends with dan harmon
>starts out pretty great, you have a lot of creative control and get to take your characters in crazy adventures in infinite dimensions
>show gets popular
>your friend decides that now that your show is popular you need more diversity in your writers
>well okay, nothing inherently wrong there i guess
>quality immediately suffers
>show goes from being a comedy about a scientist and his grandson going on interdimensional escapades to dumb family drama with barely any jokes, said drama clearly being shoved in by your friend because every show he's ever made has had his personal problems forced into them
>you start losing creative control over your own creation and have to watch your show become flanderized
>make a side project without him because he's an insufferable asshole
>while in an interview with him, he decides to put you on the spot and guilt you for not telling him about it and letting him on

I feel so fucking bad for Justin Roiland. He's actually funny and doesn't deserve any of this.

>>94493077
I don't get how someone posting on 4chan means anything in 2017. 4chan hasn't been "muh secret club" in over a decade. It's an extremely well-known website where tons of people come and go. Some just stay longer than others.

>>94491278
>Pilot
>Lawnmower Dog
>Meeseeks and Destroy
>Rick Potion #9
Best episodes

>Anatomy Park
>Mortynight Run
>Rixty Minutes
>Total Rickall
Good episodes

>Raising Gazorpazorp
>Close Rick-counters of the Rick King
>Get Schwifty
>Interdimensional Cable 2: Tempting Fate
>Look Who's Purging Now
>Rickmancing the Stone
Shit episodes

>the rest
Either meh, passable, or forgettable, I don't care enough to rank them.

>>94490720
Pretty sure harping them up is also what set off /co/

How can one absurd goofy Adult Swim show inspire multiple threads on the board at all times for months on end?

>>94500333
What a fucking dickhead.

>>94491479
Even if they hadn't announced it people check writing credits and Season 3 credits having so many female names would have still set off the shitstorm.

>>94500750
What are you talking about, anon? Samurai Jack has been over for awhile.

>>94491278
>The ABC's of Beth

Ohh boy oh boy.

>>94491278
It's been updated, we now know eps 5 and 7 are written by Ryan Ridley

Maybe they're pushing off blame as this season is pure fucking shit. I keep watching in the hopes an episode will be decent. Episode 1 gave me deep worries about the future of this season. The episodes past it give me worries of the future of the show. Justin is the lifeblood of this show and he should leave to make something else.

>>94500333
Christ. Justin is crying out for help. Dan needs to chill the fuck out.

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>>94500943
I legit didn't even notice that change. I did notice the Starburns logo no longer appears.

>>94500975
That's because Starburns isn't doing the animation anymore, it's Canada now

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1. There's nothing inherently wrong about Pickle Rick or Rickmancing the Stone, and all bitching relating to either episode has been about the writers being women. There's been very little critique about what actually makes these episodes allegedly shitty.

2. The same outrage about poor writing happened when episodes Get Schwifty and Interdimensional Cable aired, but they're the popular and referenced episodes, also written by men. Further proof anons are contrarian and only hate episodes because they're popular.

3. It's early in the season and I'm not surprised that the writers are focusing a lot of time on character relationships as opposed to randumb space nonsense that anons falsely believe were present in every single previous episode. We've had episodes that directly focused on Beth and Jerry's relationship in really spelled-out ways:

>Big Trouble in Little Sanchez
>"IM TINY RICKKKK!"
>side plot of Jerry and Beth in couple's counseling
>regarded as good episode

>Pickle Rick
>"YEAH IM PICKLE RICK!!"
>therapy episode with Beth and kids
>anons think it's a poor episode because women

I can see through your bullshit, cucks.

>>94500988
great more works from the fucking leafs

>>94499146
>Hard right shit.

Like?

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>>94501064
>all bitching relating to either episode has been about the writers being women

>muh "all critique of things created by women is inherently sexist

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>>94501155
But seriously, what was bad about Pickle Rick that hadn't been demonstrated in previous episodes written by men?

>>94501192
The pickle-rick parts were fun. Everything else was trash. Boring family drama shit. All the beth and jerry stuff was always sub-par, but had fun elements. This was just preachy and bad attempts at humor. A continuation of the "aint I so smart I can do anything dr.who invincible man " schickt was also a put off.

>>94501238
>family drama is boring
A fair critique, but one I've heard based on past episodes before. Just pointing out it has little to do with female writers and it's literally a meme to say the show is in decline solely because the last two episodes were written by women.

>>94501271
Not only the family drama. I can't think of one good joke in this episode. I'm really trying. The first set up, the "oh whats that contraption, i'm going to explain all of it" trope was really off putting. The main complaint though about this season so far, is that It's not funny and doesn't flow well. The first episode flowed pretty good, even made me reluctantly smirk. I hated the copout "dr.who" invincible rick bullshit. but overall, especially compared to these two, not bad.

Everything just seem weird and awkward. I don't really care who writes this show, and I bet if the show started with these female writes the structure of the show would better reflect their own individual humor. But there is, it seems to me, a different perspective of humor that is trying to be shoehorned into a show that was never built around for it. Leaving everything that one bit "off" even though the show is repeating it's own past story bits.

>>94493077
he also mentioned it on the h3 podcast. I'm surprised you guys haven't talked about it more.

he explicitly says that when new episodes of seasons 1 and 2 came out, he would go to /tv/ or /co/ and pre-emptively shit on them before anyone else could harder than anyone else could

>>94495464
This is how all TV shows work. The point is that your theories about "ugh it's the feminists!!" Etc etc are totally wrong. You just have to accept that the same team who makes things you love sometimes misses the mark. A villain or a conspiracy would be more fun but the truth is that sometimes good artists making a sincere effort make less good art than they hoped. That's life dipshit

>>94500943
That is his divine punishment.

>>94499094
There was an old joke between me and a friend, before the 2016 POTUS election came, that you knew you spent to much time on /pol/ when you started questioning the holocaust. Of course that was when daily holocaust denial threads were a thing. Now it's more "how can white boys compete" and other bait threads. If anything, /pol/ teaches you to hate humanity as a whole now rather than a slecific group of people.
On a side note, I think I know a solution to stopping these political threads that keep popping up. It might be a bit extreme, and require a smidge of autism, but if you're an oldfag you've probably seen a lot worse on this sight...like Bobbing for Tommy worse.

>>94500333
Man, this was really upsetting to read. I hope they're still friends.

>>94502480
I sincerely doubt they are, given that super shitty move.

Hey roiland you shithead, I know you are lurking/shitposting

Stop advertising the fucking site and leeching puffy vagina jokes off of 4chan. Come up with your own damn jokes

>>94502655
I take the jokes I want, cause I'm a joke taker. Some people take lives, but me, I take some jokes. I'm going to take this joke too, and you'll see it on the s3 improve episode.
t. joke taker

>>94502734
damn you

>>94500333
>I feel so fucking bad for Justin Roiland.

Everything Roiland does on his own is fucking retarded trash. He got where he is by having more talented friends to carry his ass. He's only good for doing funny voices.

>>94500486
"""Famous""" people have no good reason to post here since they can't whore attention from it

If someone who has something going on with their life as in they dont work some faggot ass desk job or aren't some smug neet they're here because they genuinely enjoy being here which is fucked up

>>94502734
So, you are basically Carlos Mencia?