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I don't understand this current divorce arc. Do the writers

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I don't understand this current divorce arc.
Do the writers hate Jerry, or are we supposed to feel sympathy for him?
Because he's in a very sympathetic place right now, but it seems like the writers are trying to blame him for the divorce when it was Beth's fault.
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>>94374920
There's 7 threads up on this subject you fagget but here's your (YOU)
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I think we're supposed to be mad at Jerry because he can't find a job.

Then again most people can't.

Its more Beth than Jerry who has the issue though. Beth and her daddy issues she put her dad before the man she married. But then again they both keep blaming Summer for their problems.
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>>94374920
>Do the writers hate Jerry?

Yes. But you're also supposed to laugh at how pathetic he is, that's the joke. Giving up his money to a literal dog because he's too spineless to stand up to it is funny. Presumably.
The whole point of Jerry is to get pushed around and laughed at, it's a very common archtype. The only problem is that if you go too far, he becomes sympathetic and it's no longer funny. That and, well, he's right about Rick.
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>>94374920
There already is a thread about this you massive faggot.
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>>94374938
I wouldn't want to get in a fight with a rabid street dog either.
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>>94374920
I don't know if you've ever heard of "character development" or a "character arc" before, but usually it involves characters being pulled out of their comfort zone and put through an emotional (or sometimes literal) gauntlet which forces them to reflect on the person they once was and come out the other side stronger and more complex.

That's what's happening to Jerry right now.
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>>94374960
Kick it in the head as hard as you can. Problem solved. You would be amazed at how little dogs can strafe to avoid it
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>>94375015
does it work on wolves or those big hunting dogs?
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He is literally becoming Meg from Family Guy.
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The show is just poorly written, and so far this season is the worst example
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>>94375044
If this season is the worst example of poor writing, you're saying this is the best written season yet?
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>>94375055
kek
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>>94375055
uh
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Rick and Morty's writers are such unbelievable hacks that they are too incompetent to write characters to have a proper balance between being comedic and serious, and because of that, they flanderized Jerry just to be the show's punching bag.
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>>94374938
fuck, I'd be afraid of a feral dog, it's relatable
he's pathetic when he's looking for excuses to find a job, not when he tried to kick out rick to protect his wife and kids
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There was an interview with the VA that said he and Rick would find some common ground. Maybe we get alpha Jerry soon.
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>>94375026
No because by time you try it's already at ypur throat. Or it's buddy is at your ankle.
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>>94375536
Maybe they bond over atheism.
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It's getting really hard to find how much shit they drag Jerry through as funny. As someone with self esteem and confidence issues, I constantly feel like I'm a fucking Jerry.
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Maybe they're just doing whatever they think is funny or interesting.
Why does everyone think a writer must hate a character to do anything bad to them?
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>>94374920
Beth and Jerry are both shit desu, she has major daddy issues and he's a huge loser who begs his children for money. They deserve to be miserable together.
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Rick and Morty celebrates Nihilism, and Jerry represents caring about stuff. They're giving you the idea of "fuck caring about things"
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>>94377077
I wouldn't say it celebrates it.
Rick's nihilism leaves him empty. Jerry isn't just caring about stuff, he's being an insecure wreck about fucking EVERYTHING to the point it controls his life.
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>>94376712
Hitler falling down a flight of stairs is funny, Mr. Rodgers falling down a flight of stairs is a tragedy.

Jerry in this season is only funny if you feel he deserves to suffer, because the joke is "Jerry is suffering" and that's it. Compare thst to last season and Pibbly Nibbles penis thing, there the humor came from the situation, and Jerry simply enabled that humor.
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>>94374920
Rick actually explained it. The universe, the everything is centered and revolves around him in every way. He keep Jerry around because he felt sorry for him and his daughter liked him, but after working for the enemy he crossed the line. So he manipulated everyone and everything to get him out of the picture, and to make him suffer he spared him the release of death.

>Jerry pissed Rick off, so Rick had the writers sideline him.
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>>94375015
I pull out my 12-guage and put it down in the street like a child. Dogs are just animals and if you want to prove that you're the alpha, you need to show them whose boss
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>>94374934
Every Walmart within a 100 mile radius of me is hiring. They don't even drug test anymore.

Not having a job is just laziness
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>>94374920
Jerry is shit, Parnell is an eternal cuck, and STFU have a (You)
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>>94374920
Its a strawman of the cuck brainlets that get upset at the concept of nihilism and intelligence beyond theirs.
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>>94374938
Both Jerry and Beth are completely and utterly pathetic. Jerry being a conformist loser while Beth being a equally pathetic daddy's girl and drunk.
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>>94374920
>but it seems like the writers are trying to blame him for the divorce when it was Beth's fault
lol wat

>enter situation where you are clearly in the minority (everyone but him likes Rick)
>make idiotic ultimatum
>ultimatum ends up destroying marriage

It was 100% Jerry's fault. He wasn't entirely wrong but he chose entirely the wrong time and words.

Jerry's an idiot.

That said I think the Jerry subplot will end up turning around by the end of the season.
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>>94377119
Sobthey are contrasting, Rick is obstinacy and gives not fucks, Jerry is obsessive and doesn't know how to let go
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>>94374920
>just a fun brainless show
>satire of back to the future where every episodes plot is a spoof of a popular movie, book, etc
>caring about the plot
Comedy is dead
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>>94379735

Rick acts like he doesn't care, but there are plenty of times where he does.
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>>94374920
They are both to be blamed. Jerry didn't put his foot down earlier and Beth is still clinging on her dad. Heres your (You).
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>>94374938

So basically he's the Squidward/Meg of the show?
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>>94380370
Yes and it has already gone from funny to just plain sad.
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>>94376518
>says it ONCE in the very first episode
>bluepilled retards STILL triggered 4 years later
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>>94379040
>>Assuming walmart pays like a real job
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>>94381535
3 months to become a department manager making $15 an hour barely doing more work than an average hourly
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You guys know other shit happens in this show right like damn, how can topic interest you so fucking much??
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>>94374920
you're supposed to feel sympathetic, you dumbass
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>>94381565
That's basically peanuts an hour when you're trying to support a family (even with Beth's income).
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>>94381624
its better than nothing at all
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>>94379680
Rick caused the collapse of society and nearly got everyone killed. Even Beth was in agreement that enough was enough before Rick returned. It was absolutely the correct time.
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>>94380884
God
*BURP*
isn't
*beats the shit out of satan*
real
*begins preying and begs god for mercy*
Morty.
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What's the deal with Morty's rant saying his dad is being some kind of spineless fencesitter who needs to either stay or go away?

Jerry's taken hard decisive action. He gave Beth an ultimatum, and instead of backing down and apologizing when she chose Rick Jerry stuck to his guns and is moving out. He's filing for divorce and is planning on suing for full custody. What's this "Jerry needs to shit or get off the pot" nonsense? Is it because he hangs around the house? Of course he's going to visit Summer and Morty. What, just because he's divorcing Beth (mainly out of concern for his children's safety) he has to completely exit his kids' lives except for every other weekend?
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>>94381930
There's no way in hell Morty actually knows the details the way we the viewer does or is really able to objectively look at the situation.
When my parents divorced I know I went through phases where I would despise one parents for something I saw as weak or immoral but months later I would realize they were just trying to be involved or something. Kids take divorce weird.
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>>94375026
Don't know about wolves, but I had to fend off a sheepdog with rabies once and it worked pretty well.
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>>94379040

Honest question. I have never held a job and I am 26, would Walmart hire me?
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>>94379735
>Sobthey are contrasting, Rick is obstinacy and gives not fucks
What's with all the spelling errors here?
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>>94374920
everyone in this show is just too unlikable and everyone is a shit to everyone else. I just dont see the appeal of this show. Rick is the biggest shit and its not funny. the mom is a bitch all the time to the dad. the dad is far too pathetic and is the meg of this show. Summer is just shitty, shes like season 1-4 Meg/ Brian. and morty is the closest thing to a likable character but hes such a loser too.
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>>94381724
I didn't expect to see Ghost and the Engineer from True Capitalist Radio. How long ago was all that?
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>>94384455
Probably. Their turn over rate is so high they'll often take anyone they can get. Just don't come across as a complete retard and you should be fine. You'll probably get suck bring a cashier or warehouse, but it's better than nothing.
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>>94374920
Jerry is now the Meg of Rick and Morty.
I bet one episode will end with Rick farting on his face.
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>>94386713

Thanks, you honestly restored a litle of the light in my life.
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>>94374920
they aren't trying to make a point. it's just a story.

but yes the purpose of this character has always been to be despised by everyone.
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>>94374920
Look up shadenfreud. Beth is pathetic too
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>>94375015
What if I don't like violence?
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>>94375015
Why do you know this? Buddy do you kick puppies?
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>>94374920
The writers have no idea what they are doing anymore, surprise!
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>>94374920
>I don't understand the divorce arc

Because it's Dan self inserting himself/his feelings towards marrige and divorce. Dan sort of empathized/liked jerry in some of his interviews and such, saying he'd prefer to be the blissful idiot like jerry then suicidal asshole like Rick, etc etc.

And now he's taken the character to a place where he feels he is at. It's why he's very easy to sympathize with at the moment and why the writers shit down his God damned throat. Because that's how Dan feels and that's how Dan probably seems himself (with the loser jerry aspect added ontop.)
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>>94387450
Why haven't you been able to work? 27 no job here. Mentall illness was too bad since I was about 12/13
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>>94381930
Morty has a lot of repressed anger over his family situation. Even though he hates Jerry, it's not as bad as his hatred for Rick and desire the straight up murder his grandfather for being an asshole.
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>>94381724
That is supposed to be the joke. Rick denies the existence of God up until he finds himself on the verge of disaster, where he immediately starts praying and begging.
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>>94374920
Women cant be wrong in divorce apparently, Jerry isn't satisfying her needs while disregarding his own.

I never liked Jerry but god damn pick on someone else, they all have issues.
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>>94386713
>Just don't come across as a complete retard and you should be fine.
wrong, even complete retards will be hired because the govt gives walmart tax cuts for hiring disabled. act as retarded as you want, it JUST MIGHT land you the job more than if you didn't
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>>94379040
From what we've seen he's trying to get an advertising job, but only job hunts online, and is probably blacklisted for his Hungry For Apples thing
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I still have hopes that the whole point of the divorce arc is to build Rick up so he can get fucked in the ass with no lube and take the mother of all falls to punish him for his hubris.

IE he gets everything he wants (no Council of Ricks, No Federation, Beth divorcing Jerry, Morty at his mercy, and Summer as a hyper-competent sidekick) only to for it to backfire on him big time.

We already have the plot Phoenix Person and his wife are apparently rebuilding the Federation or at least, martially what's left to get revenge on Rick. Summer's a loose cannon and more to the point Rick's going to probably pay dearly when Summer realizes the truth about her grandfather in terms of how Summer responds, and the Council of Ricks is probably regrouping even as we speak.

Which leads us to Jerry; ten will get you twenty, that when Beth starts dating again, whoever she gets is going to make Rick's life a living hell. He won't be cowed and most likely be an Alpha male type who will immediately threaten Rick's supremacy over his captive family. And Rick's attempts to kill or vanish him will probably backfire big time and be the thing that causes Summer and Beth to turn against him again.

At which point, Rick will have to crawl on all fours to Jerry and suck Jerry's dick to get him to come back home, so the two can break Beth and her Chad Thundercock up and reunite Jerry and Beth so Rick doesn't end up exiled to a crooked nursing home where they drug everyone into a stupor as his punishment for being a shitty human being.
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>>94374920
The old writers may have had something planned with him, considering how he constantly ends up a badass, when Rick is not actively fucking with his life (he needs to create Morties).
But since they are all fired, don't expect the new writers ever pick that one up. Of course this sorta bunch loves to portray his demographic as eternal losers. The only hope there is, is Roiland keeping the show on tract.
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>>94389699
Rick probably knows God personally, but does not have a high opinion of him.
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>>94374920
This much b8 is obvious.
Jerry is a terrible piece of shit, with very few redeeming qualities.
>No job
>lazy
>not assertive/gutless(lacking manliness)
>bad parent
>low intellect
>probably under average penis
I'm sure there's more.
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>>94393587
Given that he's a sociopath, Rick will never let Beth date again. Too much risk of Beth bringing into the family someone Rick can't control or browbeat into submission.

Knowing Rick, he'll do one of the following to Beth to keep her single:

1. Emotionally manipulate Beth to "take time for herself and her career" after the divorce, in order to keep her from dating. He might even start brutalizing horses to create demand for Beth's surgical skills so that she doesn't have time for romance.

2. He'd just going to kill/maim/mutate any and all men who Beth tells him that she's attracted to/is seeing romantically.

With the later, I would not be shocked if that's the reason behind next week's "Talking Pickle Rick". IE Beth is dating and Rick created a gun that turns people into pickles so that he can turn Beth's dates into pickles and kill them/put them into a drawer, and cause them to die an extremely horrific manner/condemn them to a fate worse than death in terms of turning them into pickles and then putting them in a drawer and forgetting all about them.

And for those who say Rick wouldn't do that, remember he created a device to TURN PEOPLE INTO SNAKES
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>>94393839
That device didn'tt turn people into snakes. It vaporized them and then he released a snake from his leg tube.
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>>94393587
I don't think he'd ever suck jerry's dick (if anything manipulate/blackmail him into helping), but this whole idea of the universe backfiring on rick surely sounds interesting.

My only concern is that they might fuck it up like they did the seemingly fair "rick acknowledges jerry is right and turns himself in to protect his family because deep down he knows everyone around him ends up hurt and even he has a bit of humanity" season 2 finale with the "PSIKE I TURNED MYSELF IN ON PURPOOOOSE!! NOW THE GOVERMENT AND THE COUNCIL AND JERRY ARE GOOONE MOTHERF****R!!! I'M GENIUS RIIICK!!" season 3 opener. It just feels like even if rick gets his shit backfiring on him after this current season, by the time we get to season 4 they'll twist it around to somehow make it "part of his plan".
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>>94379653
>intelligence beyond theirs.
The reasoning the show uses is retarded. Like that one rant Rick gave about chemicals in the brain. It's stupid people trying and failing to write a smart character as Rick proved that love was not only a physical thing, but it could be measured.
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>>94393752
>>94389699
You're both wrong. Rick is aware of the hypercrisis. It's explains why he both believes in a creator and believes life is meaningless at the same time.
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Summer show sympathy to him so i don't think the show want us to hate him
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>>94394174
This.
I sure as shit don't watch this show to feel "intellectually superior" or to tip my fedora.
I watch it for the sci fi adventures of an unhinged sociopath with an inter dimensional portal gun putting his well meaning grandson in more and more fucked up situations because Beth has so many daddy issues that she allows it.
It's like watching a car crash.
Anyone that actually sympathizes in any way with Rick is the same kind of chump that likes the Joker for more than being a great foil for Batman.
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The women writers hate men
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>>94394237
To be honest, I don't like the idea of someone being a creator of mine, who dictates me what is right and wrong, and then fucks off never to be heard again. That's something aliens or fairies (the original, not the Disney ones) would do for shit and giggles.
In the end of the day, I prefer eternal darkness over eternal servitude.
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>>94393587
All they've said so far is that he's going to get his comeuppance.
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>>94394493
Asshole characters like Vriska, BBC's Sherlock or basically the entire cast of The Loud House are pretty popular right now.
Apparently a lot of people seem to identify themselves with or see the ideal partner in them.
Rick is merely a child of modern times.
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>>94387678
Just get a dazer. No, that is not a misspelling of the word "tazer".
It's a device that makes a fuckton of noise at a frequency humans can't hear.
Dogs fucking hate it.
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>>94374920
Is season three airing now? I'll have to check Hulu.
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>>94393667
Yeah basically.
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>>94395172
To the extent that I identify with asshole characters, I think it's because I dislike myself.

To the extent that I see ideal partners in asshole characters, I think it's because I believe I deserve no better.
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>>94395504
Or maybe you just really like assholes?
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>>94374934

>Then again most people can't.

I needed a job, and browsed around on Craigslist for an afternoon. Emailed every job that I could reliably transport myself to and was even remotely qualified for by the thinnest stretch of the imagination.

Two days later I was scanning mail and answering phones at a law firm down the street from my house, for $10 an hour.

Jobs are not hard.
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>>94384852
And people like Jerry because he's the lease shitty of the bunch.
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>>94395584
I did the same thing and was unemployed for a year. Your anecdote does not equate sum total
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>>94395620

Agreed. Every situation is different. I spent a fucking year job hunting with a degree in a field hiring like crazy and got nothing, only to get a better job doing something else only marginally related. They won't even hire you for low wage jobs if you're overqualified most of the time.

The idea that you can file papers for 10$ and provide for a family of four is retarded.

It's also besides the point. The opening to season 3 made it obvious that if Jerry does well and Beth doesn't it rattles her inferiority complex. That marriage only vaguely worked if Beth was allowed to dominate to an unhealthy degree.
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>>94388000
Wait can anyone actually confirm this? Because if it's ture it kinda sad.

>also dem trips
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>>94374938
Which doesn't make sense because opposite of this characterization he put his foot down and told Beth it was him or Rick.

How do you go from directly confronting the issue and laying down the line to spineless?
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>>94386632
I'm guessing you missed his 2016 to 2017 comeback?
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>>94395584
>>94396720

Cool story time, I played the game the way you were 'supposed' to and used only Monster, CareerBuilder, etc and avoided Craigslist like the plague. Never got a call back.

Started using Craigslist out of desperation.

Virtually all of the jobs I've had in the last ten years have come from answering a Craigslist ad.

Also I job hunted every day for at least three hours per day for six months, wasn't able to find a job until I moved to a crappy town.
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>>94395504
/r9k/ opened the eyes for me.
Assholes are all miserable beings, who instead of improving themselves do their best to get everyone else down to their miserable levels.
I used to feel sorry for them, but now all I feel is disgust.
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>>94379040
Nigga I'm finally employed but that's only after I did resumes and showed up for interviews and constantly applied for jobs online for 4 months straight and I was rejected practically every time.
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>>94388000
Did Dan go through a divorce?
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Jerry Doofus rick episode when?
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>>94399134
>How do you go from directly confronting the issue and laying down the line to spineless?
By the confrontation being a giant failure. Like most people who use a "choose he/she/it or me!" ultimatum he probably thought she would definitely choose him and was unprepared for the consequences of being wrong. Having *half* a spine burned him and now he's shy.
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>everyone keeps thinking Ricky is Dan and Justins self insert

You do realise Jerry is Harmon right? Harmon fully acknowledges he's a spineless piece of shit
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>>94374920
I always gather the show is really hard on Jerry for shock value. Kind of the same with morty. They are both fundamentally good characters, if a bit stupid, and it always is a bit of a shock when the universe fucks them over. Kind of a "nice guys finish last" kind of thing.

They do give Morty and Jerry the odd win though. Like with Jerry finding out in an alternative reality he was a superstar, but wanted to give it all up just to be with Beth.
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They hate him because the writers are female now and they want to feel superior
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>>94403737
And yet Beth is still a dumpster fire of a human being and Summer actually got worse.

It's almost as though you're looking for reasons to get angry at whether the writer has a wang dang doodle or a hoo hah.
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>>94403020
neither rick nor jerry are harmon. Harmon's said himself the two of them are what you get when he is split into two people
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>>94403737
There were female writers in season 2 also. even season 1?
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>>94404114
Apparently there were a lot of diversity hires between seasons 2 and 3. Never a good thing for a show.
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>>94387715
Not same anon, but I don't kick puppies. Although, I sure as hell would kick a mature dog coming at me with intent to harm me.

There comes a point where the "pet people" need to stop covering for a hostile animal and accept that they were failed to be domesticated and need to be treated as you would a lion or another non-domesticated feral animal running towards you.
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>>94374920
Its a redemption arc with a twist. At the end Jerry saves the day, or so you expected. He fucks it up. Next season he has his coming to an age arc and we return to status quo.
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>>94387715
If a dog attacked me in the street I would do a lot worse than kick it.
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>>94374920
Jerry gets fucked over because he's the anti-Rick.

Rick is assertive, spontaneous, super-intelligent, and despises anything that threatens his freedom and individuality.
Jerry is spineless, complacent, stupid and almost incapable of thinking for himself.

Jerry was set up from the beginning to be the every-man in a show that aims to deconstruct social norms, so of course he's going to be the butt of the joke 90% of the time.

The new sympathetic direction they're taking him in is most likely due to the change in writing staff (and the sympathetic direction is definately intentional). Looking at the adverts, he's getting some part in a rick-adventure despite the fact they have almost zero business interacting at all anymore. So he's probably going to get some character development at some point and quite possibly turn into a foil of some kind for Rick.

I'm sure they have something they want to do with him. After all, at this point i'm sure the writers have realized 90% of their audience are a bunch of Jerrys who wish they were Ricks.
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>>94393667
> on tract
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>>94377783
Holy fuck this is cringey
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>>94404604
I dont want to be Rick, fuck that tryhard faggot
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>>94379040
I remember applying to every open position in every Walmart in my vicinity and getting ignored/rejected by all of them.
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>>94404604
This
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>>94404744
Don't wanna let the inner wolf free and show the lowly dog that you have a dark demon inside you that is just waiting for its chance to come out?

Obviously by, "inner wolf", I mean your father's gun and by, "lowly dog", I mean your local high school.
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>>94374938
>Giving up his money to a literal dog because he's too spineless to stand up to it is funny.

Honestly, if he had put his foot down and fought the dog, he'd have probably gotten mauled by it. And then it would eat his welfare check anyway.
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>>94377783
>show them whose boss

Whose boss? Your boss? Oh! you mean "who's".
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>>94374920
>Hurp derp, I'm an idiot and need everything in my media to be black and white with clearly defined GOOD and BAD
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>>94381565
Yeah I know this is a day old post but advancement is not one of the things Walmart is known for. I've known plenty of people who worked for them and it all basically boils down to nepotism.
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>>94374938
>he becomes sympathetic
Only other losers would find someone like Jerry sympathetic.
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>>94374920
he's a meme character with no purpose in the story
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>>94405253
Yeah I was about to say this.

I know someone who is in a somewhat high position at Wal-mart but it took her a little over a decade to get there.
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>women start writing
>tacked on divorce ending with jerry being shit on taken in a bigger direction
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>>94408764
I don't get why they want to beat the Jerry jokes to death. They aren't even witty, they just continue to show the concept of a spineless man living out his divorce is and except the fans to eat it up. That's the template for jokes, not the joke itself
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I don't understand how people think Jerry is a pathetic pushover. Almost every episode with him in it is about him putting his foot down and growing a spine. Like the marriage counseling episode and fucking Rickshank Redemption.

Niggas want to act like that one Flashback in Total Rickall with the crazy hobo is the entire series.
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>>94402058
Honestly /r9k/ saved my life
After high school I was just being a lazy depressed neet who bought into the nothing matters line of thinking

Then I found 4chan
And then I stumbled onto /r9k/, and it was like looking in a mirror. I was horrified by what I saw, so I changed. I got a job, got back to school, an I'm currently on a diet and exercise regimen so I can get stronger and healthier, haven't felt this good in years
So yea those loosers helped me get my life on track
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>>94395172
There exist well written asshole characters, like Ash from Evil Dead. The key is to give them a good reason and play the rest of the universe off it. Comparing the two, Ash is an example because gods forced him to become a killer and made him kill his best friends and little sister, only to be shunned by society and deemed a psycho when in reality he saved the world. We see Ash's decent into his current position in life. With Rick the only explanation we get is that something happened a while ago and he's a nihilist, that's it. Its lazy writing. Also, the world around Ash knows he's a terrible person. All his friends pretty much hate him save for Pablo and Kelly, and even they know that he's a racist, selfish jerk. Him being a dick usually gets him into trouble because the writers know people shouldn't aspire to be him. With Rick, his assholish nature seems to get him out of trouble and everyone but Jerry and Morty give him pats on the back for being the way he is.
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>>94409093
and dont forget. jerry`s new home is the same kind that milhouse`s dad went to.
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>>94374932
want to talk about samurai jack instead?
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>>94408764
>unironically blaming the women writers for a problem that's existed since S2
Rick wank and Jerry bashing is not new my man. Besides, Roiland's the one that had a divorce this is clearly his doing.
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>>94395584
>$10 an hour
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>>94374920
Don't really get it either. The first couple seasons seemed to set up Jerry as a pathetic loser, but also that Beth was really fucked up too and her complex about her father was super fucking dangerous for everyone and that she thought way too highly of herself to boot.

They had no less than 4 different episodes where Jerry stepped up and did something above and beyond for Beth and/or the family.

And now hes just there to be a punching bag and Beth is just some aloof mom that is just kind of a set piece.

I mean, its fine if the rest of the show is going to be the Summer Rick and Morty adventure show and they wanted to get Beth and Jerry out of the picture, but I just don't get whats going on with their character arcs.
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>>94374938
Why did everyone take Rick's side anyway? Rick has never done anything good for them except narrowly saving them from the danger he himself caused.
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>>94405706
Both Beth and Jerry are just incredibly annoying now.
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>>94374938
>too spineless to fight a rabid street dog that can and would literally kill you
>this is somehow pathetic and not something any sane person would do
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>>94409499
>The divorce plot is Justin
Dan literally got divorced when S2 ended and the massive delays and "writing conflicts" became a thing. Do the math.
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>>94409499
I was referring to the shitty execution of the divorce and how that divorce idea is making the already there Jerry shitting idea more prevelant
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>>94389699
Sounds like a certain loli.
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>>94410476
Quit shoehorning waifus into discussions
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>>94410573
Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
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>>94402261
Yes. But he has a new gf now (she looks on the younger side for Dan as well.)


But you can see it at the end of his production company logo. In the first season you see Dan sitting happily with his wife and dog by the fireside. after the divorce we see Dan passed out in the dark with booze bottles all around him.
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>>94409845
Apparently if male character isn't a fucking superhero they're pathetic.
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I just figure wherever this is going, Jerry is gonna get thrown SOME kind of bone in the end, for me the bigger question is how the fuck this came about.

For what possible purpose would they be on a rollercoaster together, by all rights they shouldn't have any reason to interact.
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>>94379040
>Works on my machine :^)
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>>94379040
Well, aside from a part time minimum wage job not being worth jack shit outside of weed money for teenagers, thats hardly typical. And often, they don't like hiring middle aged people if they can avoid it. Young people will deal with the job because they only need pocket money, and old people are fine because they basically just want to work and don't care what kind of work it is. But people that are in the regular adult range are usually not worth hiring on for the entry level stuff, which is 99% of it and the only thing they hire for that doesn't require experience or a military background.
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>>94381930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaE6toi4mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OqwKfgLaeA
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Alright, there's six or seven threads a day so instead of arguing let's talk about something more interesting:

Why is Jerry and his current arc so upsetting that it keeps coming back to haunt their every thought? What is connecting enough everyone to either rise to his defense, shit on him, or shit on the writers and/or the network?
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>>94374920
>Jerry's attempt to haggle with the Wolf where he spells out the symbolism of the harassment

That was actually one of the few times that explaining the joke actually worked. Though it might just be because of the vocal delivery. Jerry's VA is capable of some real panache when the character isn't being drowned out by his spergy wife, son, daughter, and father-in-law.
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>>94410850
Cutaway gag.
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Did they actually fire the guys and replace them with girls? I thought they just let girls on the team, not that they ARE the team now
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The whole thing feels off. As if the entire universe is coded just to make him miserable.
I would be presently surprised if it turned out that Rick or someone else had done something to make it like that. Though I won't hold my breath for it.
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>>94411162
It's just the writing, I'm sure. Jerry saying something average and then everyone gets pissed because hahaha
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>>94374920
Youre supposed to feel sorry for him cus hes a good guy who got the shaft

Youre also supposed to feel angry that he is such a push over even when his family is in danger.

Hes the literal opposite to Rick, Rick asserts himself and needs to learn to be kind and have and show empathy for those he loves.

Jerry has the love and empathy but his issue comes in being unable to protect that or those he loves.

Rick and Jerry are polar opposite learning experiences leading to more or less the same character development point.
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>>94409499
>unironically blaming the women writers for a problem that's existed since S2

But the divorce was 100% the new writers idea.

>>We had a lot of new writers in Season 3 that [had ideas] once we opened the hood on Beth and Jerry’s relationship by saying, “Let’s have them split up instead of continuing this running gag of their dysfunctional marriage.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/rick-and-morty-creators-how-hiring-female-writers-made-season-3-the-best-yet
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>>94411325
>how-hiring-female-writers-made-season-3-the-best-yet
oh no
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>>94374938
no Jerry is Harmon's self insert, he feels like he is Jerry inside. Harmon feels pathetic and depressed inside especially now since his wife left and he's showing us what he's going through through Jerry
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>>94377192
>Hitler falling down a flight of stairs is funny, Mr. Rodgers falling down a flight of stairs is a tragedy.
The mental image of Mr. Rogers falling down a flight of stairs got a solid chuckle from me.
And to be honest I've felt Jerry deserves all the shit he gets all the way back from the 1st episode when he kept saying being a veterinary was a lesser job than being a doctor when he worked in fucking advertising. The guy's a retard, and retards deserve no pity, lest they grow content and come to think their way of going around in life is appropiate in any way.
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I think they write Jerry as a dick at random times to counter the fans saying they feel bad for him, they just randomly make him a retarded asshole sometimes
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>>94411325
>>94411364
>article is written by a woman
>has an annoyingly quirky way of writting
>stupid fucking jokes
>" the results were really good because it meant that both the men and the women could increase their attention on Beth and Summer"
>"It’s more about everyone being freer to just pitch randomness. So the result is you see cool stuff happen with Beth and Summer this season"
>" the writers, the vast majority of which are raised by separated parents. Everybody’s got a story about one of their parents acting differently in a separated context, like how awkward their dad looked in a subtly different outfit, you know, the windbreaker and the Newsie cap in the driveway. Everybody’s got these kinds of cringe stories. I think we all contributed equally"
I bet she loves S3
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>>94410850
Calling it now, Jerry will be getting custody of the kids, Rick takes Jerry out for a day of fun and bonding, as soon as he gets whatever he needs from Jerryits HA HA IT WAS ALL FAKE I HAVE NO EMOTIONSFUCK YOU JERRY WUB A LIB DIB SZEUCHAUN SAUCE BURP

After the season premiere I can't buy Rick as anything but a shithole
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>>94410986
For me it's that Morty blames his dad for the divorce and none of it on Beth. It's a two way street and every else in the family is ignoring Beth's obsession with Rick. Morty still has the same option from the beginning of the episode to the end that it's Jerry's fault instead of both of them.
It feels more like an abusive relationship where Rick does whatever he wants and Beth stays home and tries to pretend everything is okay so Rick doesn't run off again.
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>>94409812
I think the next interesting development is gonna have to do with Beth's burgeoning alcoholism going to the next stage, if she becomes as much of a booze hound as Rick it's certain to have some repercussions in the show's dynamic.
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>>94410850
Some different universe, Rick gets an emotion change through science and reverts in the end, Jerry does something that makes Rick want to use him (being an older and stronger morty shield?)

It's ANYTHING they'd want it to be. Hell it could be a random mid-season episode where everythings' great and everything sets back in the next episode like it never happened.


I'm curious what the blood thing on him is from, did someone get fucked on the coaster or is it a plot point? I never see details taken after the scene it happens in so I assume the former.
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>>94374920
>Jerry is your typical MRA
>thread filled with /r9k/ NEET posts
I see why you Elliot Rodgers sympathize with him so much.
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>>94402987
I thought it was a success. A failed him or me thing would go she chooses Rick and Jerry takes it back to stay with Beth.

Jerry stood his ground and did probably the best thing for him. Unless it turns out to be terrible too.
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>>94411875
Nice scapegoat, female humor is shit and it's not a scapegoat to say that unless you're personally offended or baiting.

Women being on for the sake of women and making story decisions and writing what they like is a shit move. Some female writers can be fine but they're few and far between.

There's more good men writers because they don't focus so much on defending their gender and unless they're a nu-male or extreme female hater, the female megapraise/hate is left out, and there's rare occurrences of those extremes in show runs. The only prior issue with RandM in the past was the humor anyway being touch and go. Now it's a more flanderized female take on what it was and shitting on jerry more.
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>>94411875
>MRA
You already fucked up at the start.
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>>94410850
If it ends with him getting back with Beth it won't be worth it. Fuck that bitch.
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>>94411875
>>Jerry is your typical MRA
how?
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>>94411827
>It feels more like an abusive relationship where Rick does whatever he wants and Beth stays home and tries to pretend everything is okay so Rick doesn't run off again.

It's not like an abusive relationship, it IS an abusive relationship. Rick does whatever he wants and everyone has to put up with it or else he'll leave, which is only bad due to Beth's issues.
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>constantly undermines his wife's job despite her doing her being more qualified than him
>obsesses over his wife cheating on him because he has a victim complex
>so totally inept at his job that the first time they ever ask him for a pitch it's so bad he's fired for it
>prepare to lie to an entire planet to sate his ego and only stopped when his son was disappointed in him
>fantasised of being cucked by Sleepy Gary
>spends time and feigned interest in his daughters pursuits purely to try and bum money off her
>sits at home all day doing nothing to the point where he blows hundreds of dollars on a phone call service
>completely okay with being subjugated by an alien empire because they gave him meaningless promotions despite his entire family suffering under them
>eats things from other people's drawers in the freezer

If you genuinely identify with Jerry or believe that he is in any way justified then you are subhuman
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>>94413329
that is fucking peanuts compared to the miles long list of shit Rick has done.
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>>94413329
>>constantly undermines his wife's job
grow a pair, "you've always wanted to be a real surgeon" obviously came out wrong but due to this show's writing they twisted it into some bullshit anyway

the fact you're crying that his wife is being neglected by him and he's a jerk shows your stance
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>>94410850
rick learns that he actually likes jerry when he gets to know him
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>>94413506
It's all about how they carry themselves.
Rick is aware that he's a piece of shit that is selfishly motivated, but Jerry is under the illusion that he's a good person who is being mistreated when actually he deserves the treatment he's getting.

>>94413510
I don't particularly give a shit about Beth but Jerry annoys me as he's a goddamn hypocrite. He constantly complains about Beth giving him the same treatment that he gives her, because he doesn't have the stones to take what he dishes out.
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>>94387715
Dont kick puppies myself but several years back when I was getting something out of my car a dog showed up in my driveway growling. Although the logic should have been jump in the car, I was glued on the dog and logic had already ran away ahead of me. Purely out of reflex when it charged I kicked it but I think that was more in the throat but that scared it off
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>>94409379
What you describe is a realistic portrayal of how these people are treated.
The clique on the other hand writes their assholes as godlike beings who are never wrong and can get away with everything.
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>>94374920

Fuck, I missed it. Is there a dl link around?
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>>94415440
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/12228691/Mad_Max__Fury_Road_(2015)_1080p_BrRip_x264_-_YIFY
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>>94410890
Everytime
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>>94411325

>“Let’s have them split up instead of continuing this running gag of their dysfunctional marriage.”

When you put it like that it was a good move. The dysfunctional marriage subplots were getting tired as fuck.
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>>94416384
The problem is that now it's just a dysfunctional divorce.
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>>94416384
Of course someone with an idea of changing something would describe the former as a step down.

It's just that here it's women wanting Beth with a new guy and kicking Jerry to the curb, but still being sure to stick with him just to shit on him, so basically it's hardly different despite the change, they still want to have Jerry be on the series just to shit on him despite taking an extra step to remove him.

It's clear the divorce is just a "fuck with jerry" idea or else they'd have moved on afterwords.
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>Stoners make fart and poo poo jokes
>What does it mean? What does it mean???
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>>94417513
This thread isn't that
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>>94419984
The show is that.
This thread is reading too much into it.
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>>94420831
I think you might be retard
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It's the culmination of all of the episodes where you're shown that it would honestly be better if they divorced. Like, I DISTINCTLY remember people on this board wanting Jerry gone because every Beth and Jerry B Plot was basically them semi-reconciling was more and more prove that they had a shit relationship.

Jerry's basically the equivalent of the character in a show who knows what's REALLY going on (the nosy neighbors, the guy who knows magic is real, ect.) that gets shit on to protect the main character, but turned up to the extreme. He's also suppose to be the inverse of Rick; where Rick always wins because he always gets his way, Jerry always loses because he never gets his way.
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>>94416716
The three women I have talked to the new season about all fucking hate Beth and think Jerry is better off without her.
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>>94421977
10/10 every woman
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>>94421977
That's because Beth is equally pathetic and worthless; she just blames everyone else and tries to numb everything with alcohol. It was only her intense need for normalcy that made her stay with Jerry.
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>>94422065
Beth is just fine, it's her family causing her stress. She has issues because Rick is an asshole and abandoned her and Jerry is a prick that tests her. I hate when this fandom implies she's a horrible person
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>>94374920
Divorce arc is to explore Jerry and Beth as characters outside their marriage.

Especially Beth who was always defined by it, now she'll have a chance to show something more to her character besides being a ball busting bitch wife.

Anyway I don't think they will get bacl together especially since Harmon said he was tires of that running gag.
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>>94416716
Judging by the last episode Beth life isn't going to be better without Jerry.

She wanted to hang out with her family by the end of the episode and they told her no. Rick, Morty and Summer are a team and she's excluded from it and with Jerry not there to take her abuse or keep her company she's just going to fucking fall into depression (like that universe were she never married Jerry and is with all those birds).

Which is also good for the character since it's going to force her to develop.
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