Why are mutants hated and the fantastic four, spiderman

>>94342788
All of them are rich and wear masks.

Humans are insecure and jackass muties won't stop going on about replacing them and it triggers the fuck out of humans.

Captain America is a freak, but at least when he gets butthurt he doesn't start shouting about how in the future there will be nothing but glorious super soldiers

>Mutants

Born freaks

>Fantastic Four, others

Accidents that gave them superpowers

>Spider-Man

A fucking menace to society.

>>94342788
Magic of PR.
Most supes dont acknowledge themselves as "we are like you but better" or "we are going to replace you"

>>94342788
the boco edit should be posted more often

Why are blacks, asians, indians , and whites hated when the other blacks, asians, indians , and whites aren't hated?

>>94342788
It doesn't make sense, which is why Fox owning the X-men is a blessing in disguise. Those two franchises SHOULDN'T be in the same continuity.

FF makes sense since they are fully public figures, and the Avengers has Cap, an american hero to vouch for them. Muties are different because they can be anywhere and are as unpredictable as the average person.

As for Spidey, well its not like he is known to be in the public's good grace.

>>94342857

Pretty much.

"Homo superior". God, what the FUCK wwre they thinking?

Because the mutants are an allegory for racism and mutants and ONLY mutants being hated while all other metahumans get a free pass is totally irrational and illogical, just like racism.

>>94342831
good point. very good.

>>94342825
Spiderman rich.....kek... ohh wait

>>94342901
>Those two franchises SHOULDN'T be in the same continuity.
How to spot a moviefag.

>>94343055
They shouldn't. Not everything needs to crossover. Some things make more sense on their own.

Because having every single marvel property inhabit a shared universe was a poorly thought out idea

Because Spider-Man and FF are victims of accidents and rise to help their fellow humans where Mutants are better humans.

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>>94343110
>being so fucking retarded you can't understand why mutants aren't the same thing as ordinary metas

>>94342788
All bigotry is based upon the concept of "othering".
Any given difference can be exploited to justify the denigration and torment of another so long as it can't be easily applied to one's own group.
And this is done so that one's own group becomes elevated in superficial status by the subjecting of another to a lower status.

Mutants have the label of being other than human, it doesn't matter that this "other" is an evolution beyond the limitations of human into a higher form of life, the label of NOT human means that they don't receive the empathy reserved for human superheroes like Captain America.

TL;DR: It's the ability to say "it's US vs. THEM"

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>>94342860
Here ya go bud.

>>94343163

Cosmic Marvel is fun and Streetlevel Marvel is great. Everything in the middle sucks.

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>>94342788
"Dear Christ who let a mutie in here! Well you are going to have to get out and start swimming, we already have a mutant and he's a fat kid that can't read."

>>94343241
"Oh god, my flimsy racism allegory totally doesn't make everything about the X-Men's place in the Marvel Universe retarded!"

>>94342788
Sublime

Rest of the super heroes get their powers through magic, tech, or accidents. X-Men represent an evolving humanity by birth, and because of survival of the fittest, many see that as threatening to their own sense of self.

>>94343110
No but you see, The X-Men have had several other very good stories that came of their cross overs with other Marvel franchises, Fantastic Four, Heroes for Hire, Power Pack. So them being part of the same universe is a good thing and being separate is less than ideal. Because it cuts down on the number of things both cinematic universes can adapt.
You can't, for instance have Chat from the MA Comics in a Spiderman movie, because she's a Mutant and those belong to Fox. For similar reasons.

>>94342788
>mutants
Were first revealed to the world by Magneto showing up and proclaiming that he would genocide humanity to make way for homo superior. Later the public learned that Professor X was secretly taking in young mutants and training them as a paramilitary group to fight for his cause.
>Fantastic Four
Immediately began working PR, doing charity work, and donating money from Reed's patents. Made their adventures and incidents of them saving people well known. Didn't wear masks or hide their identities so that they became public figures that people can trust.
>Spider-Man
A menace to half the city, a friendly neighborhood hero to the other half. Emphasis on the "friendly" part. He's personable and jokes around, and saves people from regular crime unlike a certain group that only cares if it's a problem with their kind.
>Captain America
He's Captain fucking America.
>Thor
Saves people from mundane issues, has charisma, doesn't (appear to) have any secret about who he is, women soak their panties in his presence, and he's shockingly humble and in touch with the regular Joes if you talk to him. Except the one time he stiffed a cabbie on a fee, that was a bit dickish.

>>94342788
I hate the Fantastic Four.

>>94343517
Shut up Ike.

>>94342788
They can't have a seperate universe because have your cake and eat it to.

>X-men are supposed to be about random people getting super powers for no reason and persecuted for it because they're dangerous and the other guys
>lol actually we go to space all the time and there's a cosmic fire bird and these fucking aliens the Shi'ar and we time travel a fuck load and there's this fucken egyptian nigga with big blue lips and magik owns a slice of hell and we literally broke Nightcrawler out of heaven like a jailbreak to bring him back to life

>>94343311
Take the (You), buddy. If no one else is gonna give you one, I will.

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I think Ultimate Spidey described the mutant problem quite eloquently

Aliens.
Really

>>94342788
Murants aren't human. Other supers like Spiderman are just mutatd human.

That's a very keen difference.

>>94342788
Read a book

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Does every fuckwit on this thread forget how they spent the last year shitposting hate and fear at Iceman for being different?
And hate and fear at Jean Grey for being able to tell if you're in the closet too?

Half the female characters are lesbians, half the male characters are gay, there's a bunch of incestuous freaks, and the remaining are all about freaky fetishes.
The X-Men aren't just all a bunch of LGBT allegories, they ARE all LGBT.

>>94342788
Mutants are jerks.

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Because they are but to a lesser degree.
Being a hero in Marvel basically always meant being shit on by the public. Maybe for like a weekend you'd be beloved but most the time they're just ingrates if not outright despising you for no fucking reason.

Mutants have the addition of being a "race" of people that are constantly hyped up as humanity's replacements even by the good guy mutants.

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>>94342788


Because the mutants go around calling themselves superior and go on about how they're replacing humans.

other capes are anomalies but any mutant can just go off like a bomb at the drop of a hat based on something as unreliable as genetics

you'll be minding your own business getting dinner when next thing you know some mutant kid blows up the whole diner killing everyone because puberty kicked in

A mix of publicity, "normal powers", and NOT always looking freaky.

Fantastic Four? All of them are good-looking mofos who can turn their power sets off and whose powers are impressive without being scary, especially once you know what's going on with them. Thing's the exception but by hanging out with them he gets to be beloved, especially when his lovable roughneck personality comes through.

Same for most of the classic Avengers or Marvel solo heroes that are Avengers material. Captain America's literally just peak human or slightly superhuman and defends AMERICA! so he's loved. Iron Man's just a cool genius in an impressive suit. Thor is handsome as fuck and his strength and flight pop out before the thunderbolts do and a bit of research into mythology shows he's "humanity's protector", so he's on our side. Dr. Strange still acts as a doctor of sorts in public and has nothing but his costume to strike out at you. Even Spider-Man and the Hulk are beloved by the public if not by tabloids or the army, and have become part of the Avengers and thus proven heroic mettle. Same deal with not-freaky, acceptable powers.

X-Men? Not only is the typical "mutants are fucking nuclear bombs in people form" thing there, they usually LOOK freaky too and CAN'T turn it off. At least Hulk's greatest sin is being green - Beast and Nightcrawler are blue, furry, and have weird limbs. Cyclops has puncheyes. Storm lives up to her name a lot, who wants to be in the middle of lightning, same for Iceman making things around you deathly cold. Colossus is Russian. Wolverine at this rate could pass as the most normal except the Wolverine persona is probably known for not dicking around and considering murder an acceptable first solution. Jean Grey goes nanners a lot, also, dead. Not to mention whole groups of mutants proclaiming homo sapiens' destruction and they themselves are a separate species designed to replace them instead of just accepting they're humans in a weird age of heroes.

>>94342788
People like the Fantastic Four are just random accidents. Mutants being born with their powers leaves a lot of normal humans afraid that they're humanity's replacement. Humans who get powers from cosmic rays or lab accidents or whatever number in the dozens. Mutants number in the millions, with more being born every day. (At least before the "no more mutants" idiocy.)

Which isn't helped by the fact that at least 50% of mutant villains believe the same thing and revel in it.

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>>94344730
>Colossus is Russian

>>94342831
Good post anon.

Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four don't run around yelling about mutant rights and commit terrorist attacks in the name of mutantdom.

>>94342831
yet inhumans get a pass when the shit out a fart gas that turns regular folk into monsters

>>94343794
Wolverine fucked MJ when he was in Pete's body.

>>94343055

It doesn't work in the comics either

>>94345161
Spider-Man did have shit PR up to when he became not!Iron Man, the FF are straight up celebrities and the Avengers have been endorsed by the President himself multiple times and of course Captain America.

The street level heroes doesn't have as good, but yes the whole "WE'RE THE NEXT STEP IN EVOLUTION" gotta sting with people.

>>94342897
The Mutants are literally a different subspecies of human.

>>94345184
Inhumans were completely unknown to the general populace until Marvel decided to make them X-Men replacements. In bullpens past if the roaming terrigen clouds were actually a thing that happened no doubt humans would hate inhumans but because Marvel has a terrible bullpen you won't ever see stories that are realistically written instead you're going to shit like mary sue Moon Girls and Riris come out every other year and shit on continuity by making all previous characters irrelevant with their awesome power levels

>>94343241

In a world of mutants every meta would be assumed as a mutant without a solid cover like Cap and would be hated

>>94345184
And that's why their push always felt so unnatural.
>so they're disccount X-Men but get a free pass for everything they do?
I'm happy everything blew up on Ike's face.

>>94342788
>Spider-Man
>not hated.

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>>94345241
The worst part is that there's an awesome Inhumans-meet-mutants story potentially there.

People just ARE mutants in the MU. they either suddenly change or are born that way. The Earth Inhumans were forcibly changed against their will be Black Bolt's Terrigen cloud. You could have had a general populace of marvel civilians hypocritically hate mutants but be sympathetic towards Inhumans because Inhumans are merely victims of Black Bolt's evil gas gene raping you. And the mutants could get all fucking pissy about it.

>>94343311
Sealab was too good for us

Sublime mind-controlling everyone.

>dangerous
>want to overtake the entire human race
>constantly crying about muh discrimination
>kill themselves on a daily basis
Are mutants the niggers of the MCU?

>>94343482
>Were first revealed to the world by Magneto showing up and proclaiming that he would genocide humanity to make way for homo superior. Later the public learned that Professor X was secretly taking in young mutants and training them as a paramilitary group to fight for his cause.

I was right, the entire "death 2 mutants" thing was orchestrated by Magneto and Professor X working together to have something to do in their old age.

>>94345772
Something like this.

Xavier and Mags knew each other as young men, having met in Egypt while travelling the world.
It was actually Professor Xavier who had come up with the term "Homo Superior" and put forth the idea that they will eventually replace humanity, but to prove this scientific theory he needed to find a mutant to put on display as a research example. That's why he was traveling the world - to find a lab rat, Mags was just huntin' Nazis.
Once they found each other, they became ... "friends" ... and discussed /pol/ shit ... you know, like everyone on /co/ every night.
It's Xavier who thought war with humans was inevitable once mutants outnumbered humans,
unless they remained in hiding and lived as humans...
Magneto thought that mutants should come out of hiding and demand equal rights no matter what.
By Uncanny' issue # 1 Mags was being publically labelled an "evil mutant" by the teen superheroes known as The X-Men, who kept their mutant identities secret and lived in hiding.
Like how Xavier taught them all "good" mutants should.

>>94342788
Because the others chose to become heroes, Mutants are just like everybody else, i.e. like any person that decides to go hold-up a store at gunpoint, only now they don't even have to buy a gun.

The FF, Spider-Man, and the Avengers are groups of heroes who chose to serve the public and protect people. Mutants as a whole are just average people who could choose to do anything at all with the amazing and dangerous powers they have.

People don't hate Mutants because they are different, they hate them because they are just like them.

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>>94342788
Okay I'm asking this why does when everyone brings up this argument they bring up Spider-man as a beloved icon by the populace when, he has his own robots who go after him, people don't trust him, people are afraid of him, like do X-fags read Spider-man at all or do they think because he's one of the most popular superheroes in the real world he does not get shit on by the general populace in his comics. I've seen this argument used dozen of times but my god some people think that the X-men are exclusive to the whole hated and fear thing. You also never see them bring up the Hulk but I guess that throw out the argument about how the X-men have to have a universe to themselves.

>>94346218
Because it's not a real question they're asking.
It's a shill-meme to put out bad info disguised as a question.
They lay this imagined crap on Marvel comics and make them seem worse than they are in order to scare away readers.
They also often pretend there's this great mass fanbase that want Marvel to do some things that everyone knows will destroy their business. They post that crap when they think someone from Marvel might be reading posts.
It's a lot like all those Russian memes that were put out before the election to sway votes.
Only here it's non-stop shitposting to hurt Marvel's sales.
And it's actually a criminal act the mods shouldn't be allowing. But they always do.
And a lot of it gets really racist in nasty ways, so I think it's probably one of the hate groups from /pol/.
They -really- hate Marvel.

>>94344681
I hate Marvel's public. Fuck 'em.

>>94346935
Oh my God, he might actually be serious.

>>94342788
as much as i can gather, you can at least recreate being the fantastic four or spider-man.

recreating being a mutant only makes you a mutate.

imagine tony's reaction if charles xavier decides to build his own iron man (to walk and fight).

coupled with his psi powers, he comes out too OP.

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>>94345284
He's right though. Even if Avengers and FF have good PR, street fucks like Luke Cage should be assumed to be the same menace as the muties by Marvel Citizens. Instead we get this.

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>>94342788
>Spider-man isn't hated

That's half his schtick, he does his best endlessly and gets nothing but crap for it.
But they cut that aspect out of all of the movies, for some reason.

>>94348707
are there other mutants who actively promote themselves as "not mutants" so the public will entrust their safety on them?

>>94342788
Different universes

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>>94344681
>close up of Squrriel Girl boob

But she's supposed to be pure

>>94347294
Marvel Civilian Derangement Syndrome is real and has been going on since Day 1. Jessica asks "would you do this to Captain America?" They did.

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>>94342788
up until the late 90's Spidey was hated just as much and many thought he was a mutant. Fantastic four was popularized/given cult status thanks to Reed pushing hard the campaign that they were everybody's heroes. The Avengers till Dissembled were UN/government sanctioned and were many times hated by the people as much as they were loved because of that
Also Mutants were hated because of the unpredictable factor of you never knew who was or wasn't a mutant. There were very few meta humans that work outside the law with most following the Avenger's protocols which meant giving their ID to them and answering to them if anything went bad on their watch (yes, 23 years before Civil War there was already a database that had every hero registered and it was all just forgotten about for the sake of making a major crossover based on irl events) I think off my head there was only 6 meta human heroes that were off the grind and 2 of them were pursued by authorities often. Now look at mutants, where short of what was originally a small mansion that house 20 or so mutants, the other millions were just out there with no supervision of any kind so when a school shooting happens it could be with a kid that can launch fire out of his fingers. Now however it's all just a mess and your question holds weight because no one is under any real government control and most are just fighting each other hurting civilians caught in the cross fire.

tldr: people hating mutants and why they hated them made a hell of a lot more sense till the mid 00s when everything was butchered.

>>94348707
You have never read the old heroes for hire I take it? Neither were mutants but people treated them about the same.

>>94349240
Not many Marvel heroes ever kept their secret identity close to them. I think Iron Man Spidey and Daredevil were the only ones that had a strong passion to hide their real identity from the public, most other heroes didn't give a shit who knew them.

>>94349382
Thor was feared by most because many thought he was a mutant and Iron man was seen as a bodyguard bully in the pocket of a war dealer.

Anyone who thinks Marvel Civis are cool with most heroes have never read a god damn comic in about 35 years

>>94345187
That issue actually ends with MJ saying that Peter (Logan) tried to do something she thought they shouldn't do until they were older. In a later issue, MJ is bothered by the fact that Peter trusts her with his secret identity, but they still hadn't fucked.

>>94344730

It's canon that Reed specifically set out to get them good PR because all of them would be treated like shit by Marvel citizens if they didn't get good PR to mitigate the natural hatred the MU citizens would have. Johnny specifically piggybacked off of War Hero and killed of Hitler Jim Hammond by choosing the same hero name. Nostalgia boners alone made him one of the most popular heroes in universe.

Hulk is not remotely loved by the public and i half suspect citizens just play along when he's in the Avengers out of sheer terror that he might get angry at them for not cheering him.

Spider-man is only liked because of the sheer amount of people he personally saved and that was after years of work and a sliding timeline. We don't see it easily since we view him via comics but spider-man is the creepiest little shit there is. There used to be a little animation that played after some cartoons (back in the muppet babies era) with spider-man silently landing and it always creeped the shit out of me as a child. Plus half of marvel thinks he's secretly a man-spider or mutant under that mask. I mean seriously, anyone that ever uses spider-man of an example of not being hated has not a damn clue what they're talking about. Even most mutants haven't had actual cash bounties put on their head publicly for no reason.

>>94342788
>Spider-man
>Not hated
Wut?

>>94342831
Has there ever been a mutants who just dressed up as a superhero, made up a fake origin story, and when pressed declared this whole next step in human evolution shit was stupid so why associate with morons who are too stupid to shut up about it?

>>94348423
He went off topic to put it that way, but he's not wrong, it's a dumb loaded question to imply that the X-men should have their own separate universe. Now i don't know if it's all about the Fox vs MCU conpany wars, but it probably plays a part

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>>94344415
>accuse a whole board of being fuckwits
>" y-you hate iceman for being different!"
>a cherished member of a beloved team of superheroes who's selling point is being persecuted for being different
>"s-see? They're all LGBT! Check out their vibrant diversity."
t. Fag

Listen, buddy. Nobody cares what you like to fuck, remember where you are. Nobody hated iceman, they hated Bendis exhuming and changing, drastically and for the worse I might add, classic characters that didn't need to be changed. There was no precedent for making iceman gay. None. If they had hinted at it back in the 60s, people would've creamed at the idea of a character trait that was suppressed, but STILL PRESENT, finally getting to see the light of day. This was not the case for iceman and it won't be for nearly every single classic character out there.

While we're here, let me ask you something. You're a fag I'm guessing so you should be able to answer this for me. Being gay is not a choice, so doesn't it bother you that they pointed out that he basically decides not to be gay later in life? If being gay is no more a choice than being black or white or whatever the fuck, it is no less retarded for Bobby Drake to be white, find out he's black, spend some time being black, and then decide later in life to be white again.

>>94350414
To be fair modem gender politics try to paint everything about sexuality and gender as a spectrum, so compared to a decade ago the idea of a guy "deciding" to be gay out of the blue is considered normal

>>94350479
>Tfw pray the gay away camps were actually decades ahead of their time

This is one weird timeline, guys.

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>>94342788
>and the fantastic four, spiderman and others aren't?
Remember that time Johnny Storm got hospitalized just for having powers like a completely irrelevant to him group of heroes did?

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They are 13% of the population but 99% of all superpowered crime.

>>94342838
>a fucking menace to society
Watch your blood pressure jonah

>>94346079
Both Xavier and Mags were full of shit. They wanted to justify their genetics as being the "next step in evolution" despite contrary evidence that proves them wrong.

>>94347294
Look at it from the average Marvel civilian POV, all those events since the 1960's to now have been condensed to the sliding timescale of something like 12-15 years. That shit is terrifying to consider when you take into account that Magneto's EMP in Fatal Attractions or Xorn-Magneto slaughtering New Yorkers happened something 2-3 years ago in 616 time.

Ever read Marvels? It highlights how fucking batshit insane living in Marvel NYC from the common man's POV.

>>94342788
Why is John DeLorean so angry at Nightcrawler? Is he threatened by the German automotive superiority?

>>94350925
I remember Marvels. I really enjoyed it.

>>94345184
Only in the beginning, people are starting to fear and dislike inhuman now too.
Ms marvel is currently dealing with people don't want inhuman in their community I think.
As for the mutants and humen relationship, I said it's both sides fault.
Huemen and Mutants superimist keep making the situation worst while peaceful group form both sides gets hurt
either form the other side or within .

>>94342788
Spiderman is a local hero who constantly saves his community from criminals. He does suffer from bad press, but most people who are directly affected by him are for the better.

Fantastic Four has Reed marketing the fuck out of his team, putting them in the spotlight in the most flattering way exactly so they're not considered freaks.

Mutants are a reclusive group who often fight other mutants in huge slugfests that has normal people caught in the middle.

Has there ever been a story where the Avengers had issues with the public due to their most prominent members being Mutants?

>>94342788
Because ORIGINALLY the Xmen and Mutants had their own universe, and were a commentary on the civil rights movements of the time.
And when that was no longer the case... well they really didn't have anything else, so the bigotry was kept.

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>>94353273
Yep, in Busiek's Avengers, where a black cult with super good publicity organized protests over how the Avengers' current roster had more mutants (Scarlet Witch, Justice, Firestar) than black people. The latter two wound up leaving anyways for partly other reasons.

>>94349839
No it doesn't. This has been a discussion long before the CINEMATIC UNIVERSES were ever a thing

>>94342788

What does Mike Pence have against Nightcrawler?

>>94353540
I only said it plays a part

>>94353281
No the X-men were always parts of the Marvel universe.

>>94342788
why is Richard Sherman hated and Russel Wilson not?

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>>94342788

>>94342788
>Spider-Man
>Not hated

Peter couldn't even tell Gwen his secret because of how much she hated him.

>>94342788
Reed Richards didn't move to upstate new york to use his newfound powers to start a child sex cult.

Professor X is a rapist. There's literally no evidence he's ever had consensual sex, or if he's even capable of it, since he doesn't necessarily know if he's psychically influencing people or not.

>>94348707

Civil War seemed ridiculous too. Mutant Registration was a long time issue and would pop up. The regular heroes got a pass. Then Civil War happens and....never mind they don't get a pass this time. The notion that all these super heroes weren't on anyone radar during the mutant stuff is silly. Those werent the type of comics they were writing though. If people are scared of being on a bus with someone who can explode it shouldn't be isolated to mutant.

>>94342788
Because bigotry is irrational.

>>94343311
Fucking Murphyposting

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>>94342788
How's life on the fucking moon working out, OP?

>>94342788
Mutants aren't able to control their powers when they first manifest and cause all types of problems as a result which makes the general public fear them. This is why Xavier created the school in the first place. So he could teach them how to control their powers. So you take the entire population of mutants vs 5 individuals (FF and Spider-man) who quickly learned to control their powers and you can easily summarize why mutants as a whole have a worse reputation with the public vs 5 individuals.

>>94354100
J. Jonah Jameson is the Marvel equivalent of Meredith Artley.

>>94354473
No idea who that is but the Bugle used to be a respectable newspaper before the sheer volume of people that spider-man personally helped manage to take down it's reputation.

>>94342924
Antrhopologists actually came up with that. Before Trask's propaganda, some people actually bowed down to mutants.

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You have to understand that people dont hate mutants because they are different or powerful
They hate them because they have 0 fashion sense

>>94342924
That was mostly Magneto's thing. Xavier actually called them homo mutanis or something like that and he was an accredited geneticist so it's not like that wouldn't be the term used in scientific circles.

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>>94342788
read "marvels"

>>94342788
Politics.

>>94342788
They're assholes.

>>94342788
Anyone got the panel where Spider-Man tells the X-man they aren't hated because they're mutants, but because they're assholes?

I feel like if mutants really wanted to take over they could have done so easily long ago.


It only takes one honestly.

>>94355808

>>94343794

>>94354666

>Not liking Mystique's outfit

Satan, why've you got to be like this?

>>94356103
Skull-belts are like so 80's. Ugh!

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Marvels does a great job breaking down what the difference is, and why things happened the way the did. The Marvels that people in 616 admired and respected seemed to just spring into existence from out of nowhere, and once the initial shock passed, everyone was more or less okay with that. We, as the readers, know that heroes like the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man gained their powers in any number of arbitrary ways that average people might see as unnatural, but from the POV of the average 616 citizen, they were like guardian angels come to Earth just to protect them.

Mutants, on the other hand, did not have the luxury of appearing to spring into existence fully formed. The nature of most mutations is that they manifest themselves without warning, and are often disruptive and frightening. Rather than being able to hone their abilities in secret before appearing to the public in full control of their fantastic abilities, mutants were often "outed" in ways that made them appear to be dangerous freaks. You'd have your next door neighbor who was perfectly normal yesterday, but today is shooting power beams out of his ears with no way to control it. Mutants were seen as a threat from within, an aberration that could just happen, totally without warning.

It was a problem exacerbated by the media sensationalizing the science behind mutation. The media sold the people the idea of mutants being mankind's next inevitable step, and therefore mankind's replacement. We see from Marvels' POV character that the average citizen had no reason not to believe that was, in fact, the case.

>>94356223
Why didn't Angel just amputate his wings?

>>94357675
because he actually likes to fly and doesn't mind having wings?

>>94345239

This is a good point. Anyone who isnt known as some loved hero is going to be seen as a filthy mutie.

>>94343255
>>94343311
>Mike "If You Like Cock Then Here's A Shock" Pence

>>94354001

Its the issue of having everyone in the same world. One was a story where the public hated the mutants and the other was one where the hero wasnt hated.

>>94342788
When a mutie goes bad they can innately fuck shit up because of their power. Regular people have to either invent something or go out of their way to get powers. Plus given how many characters switch from good to evil even main X-Men can't be trusted to not at some point join the Brotherhood or whatever

>>94345716
Nope.
>one makes halfway decent farm equipment if properly overseen and motivated
>the other one probably irradiates your plantation by firing beams out of their asshole

>>94350707
That was a shitty event, it doesn't count
>>94342788
The FF aren't hated because they don't have secret identities and they're more or less celebrities. They're also usually more willing to cooperate with the authorities.

>>94358102
>They're more or less celebrities

That's because of Richard's quick thinking, he was already pretty famous before the incident, so he already had the PR skills to do it.

>>94342788
Because the X-writers decided long ago to make it a thing. No writers decided to extend it to "regular" superheroes.


None of it makes any damned sense.

>>94349753
Spiderman did the reverse in House of M.

Also, any Sentinal would spot the X-gene in them.

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Does CRISPR make the X-Men potentially redundant?

Also why not just make the "mutant prejudice" case by case? Angel and Beast are fine because wings can be cut off and Beast just has hypertrichosis.
Plus mutants who would benefit from a cure like Rogue should be treated differently from prideful cunts like Storm.

Also all psychics are evil.

>>94342788
They keep committing genocide.
>Magneto
>Jean
>Xavier/Cassandra Nova/Mummudai
>Cyclops
>Beast
>Abigail Brand
>Iceman
>Emma Frost
>Polaris
>Havok

>>94342788
Because Martians (or whatever), seeing the potential humanity had thousands of years ago, set off a bio bomb or some other shit that brutally suppressed the human super gene to keep them from out advancing them.

Then there's the bacteria aliens that have infected a large majority of the human population in the Marvel universe.
They can't infect mutants, so the bacteria aliens make all the other humans irrationally hate them.

This was actually in one of the comics. I don't know if it has been retconned since.

It'd be nice if Deadpool or Gewnpool or one of those other 4th wall breakers brought it up in conversation some time and then there would be a whole plot about it.

Because that shit was dumb as hell, but still actually happened.

The actions of a few affect the perceptions other have of the rest. Marvel's universe is a mess from a writing standpoint for all sorts of reasons, but this isn't necessarily one. Though people's seemingly inherent way of being able to tell that someone like The Thing isn't a mutant never bodes well with me. It's a mix of the bad mutants being super bad, and poorly thought out narratives for a connected universe.

>>94360292
Full reboot when?

>>94353281
>Because ORIGINALLY the Xmen and Mutants had their own universe, and were a commentary on the civil rights movements of the time.
Bullshit. The "civil rights" angle was Claremont's doing. Lee's X-Men were just charmless Doom Patrol.

And they were never NOT part of the MCU.

>>94360292
You can thank the X-Office being separate from the rest of Marvel.

Marvel doesn't have the guts to either admit that the non-mutant heroes don't give a fuck about mutant affairs and turn a blind eye to killer robots hunting down American mutants or that the X-books do their own thing and don't give a rat's ass about the rest of 616 unless its convenient for them.

>>94345307
>You could have had a general populace of marvel civilians hypocritically hate mutants but be sympathetic towards Inhumans because Inhumans are merely victims of Black Bolt's evil gas gene raping you. And the mutants could get all fucking pissy about it.
You know, imagine a mutant tries to claim that they're an Inhuman. That would be a great story.

>>94350925
>Look at it from the average Marvel civilian POV, all those events since the 1960's to now have been condensed to the sliding timescale of something like 12-15 years. That shit is terrifying to consider when you take into account that Magneto's EMP in Fatal Attractions or Xorn-Magneto slaughtering New Yorkers happened something 2-3 years ago in 616 time.
THIS SO MUCH THIS

Remember all those major events that happened in NYC over the past 50+ years? Namor and Jim Hammond battling? The coming of Galactus? Inferno? Maximum Carnage? That shit happened within months if not weeks of each other if we take into account the sliding timescale.

This is why Ultimate Marvel was great. It modernized everything to a new continuity from 2000 and onwards.

>>94349753
No because the X-Men would crucify said hero for being a filthy sellout and not accepting their genetic heritage.

>>94362111
Or a big team of heroes that are by all accounts just clones of preestablished classic characters but they had got their power through the mutant gene (so you have a guy who can burst into flames, another who can stretch, a girl who can turn invisible, two twins one of whom turns green and muscular when he gets angry and the other who is perpetually muscular but covered in orange rock, a teenager who can crawl up walls, shoot webs and detect immediate danger, a blind guy who can see through enhanced mutant senses, and a kid that can stretch). And said team deconstructs and destroys the entire premise of "anti-mutant" by revealing that the people allegedly most against it are the ones actively and purposefully making it a thing just so they have something to do, even employing psychics to mind control people into hating mutants.

>>94349582
He still tried to fuck a 15 year old. Should we applaud him or be disgusted by it?

I'M NOT LIKE THEM!!
I'M NOOORMAAALL!!!

>>94362826
I think you may be in the wrong thread

>>94361493
Not soon enough.

>>94362905
Fuck

>>94354473
Ordinary New Yorkers are regularly shown hating Spidey. They throw shit at him too, and not like normal New Yorkers throwing shit. They actually want to hit him with malice.

>>94363082
Bad writing

>>94342831
>Humans are insecure and jackass muties won't stop going on about replacing them and it triggers the fuck out of humans.
That, that, kind of sounds like what ethnic minorities say to the ethnic majorities of their countries in 4chan.

>>94357675
Never heard of phantom limb pain? If he did that he'd randomly feel pain from every inch of where his former wings were since his body suddenly noticed that it's not getting any info from them.