>Aang got his tattoo as a mark of mastery in airbending at

Just don't acknowledge the existence of the korra series and all problems go away

>>94341919
fpbp

but you must add the post-series comics to that

>>94341850
I was a different time.

> Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4

By that logic then Katara started a waterbending master because she could manipulate water from the first episode.

At age of 4 Korra could bend three elements and then she was taken from her parents and isolated from the outside world so a secret society could train her and protect her.

>>94342053
not at age 11, she was like 12-13 when she was named worth to train Aang but she wasn't fully a master, maybe honorary

>>94341850
They are trying to resurrect the air bending civilization.
Jinora can astral project, which I think is OP as fuck, but if you are going with the facts of the show, she's really really good.
She's entrenched in a life that will see her training progress for decades to come.
Its not like "mastery" is equal to completion.
You can get a black belt and still have tons to learn.

>>94341850
>Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4
She could bend the elements, she wasn't a master
It took her 12 years after that point to master those 3 elements and finally be allowed to start training airbending.

And she learned metalbending. And she learned to use waterbending to purify dark spirits.

>>94342151
>Its not like "mastery" is equal to completion.
So they were just lowering the bar or they just needed more teachers ASAP due to the sudden surge of new airbenders which are just a diverse genepool

>>94341850
pretty sure there was other kids (like 2 younger than him) at the air temple flashbacks that also had their tattoos

I genuinely feel sorry for the poor Earth nation kid stuck as the Avatar in the future since thanks to Korra she's the only spirit the they will be able to get advice from.

>>94342419
that avatar state is gonna be so unbalanced. It'll just scream DEAL WITH IT

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What's up with all these random avatar threads lately, /co/?
Why's it suddenly on everyone's minds again?

>>94342419
Wan did fine without anyone to talk to. The Earth Avatar will have access to Korra's friends' kids (like how Korra had Tenzin, Lin, Su, Kya, Bumi, General Iroh.) Varrick, Asami, and Beifong money. And a technologically advanced world where bending is obsolete anyway just like all of /co/ wanted.

>>94342667
a shitty comic

>>94342727
wasn't the comic like a month ago?

>Aang learns how to control water better than Katara within two minutes
>Aang can shoot basic fireballs the first time he tries
Nah, the Avatars don't seem to have much issue doing base-level bending for any given element, except the one they're worst at.

>>94341850
While Earth is my favorite, water always seemed like it would be the strongest(ignoring the other bendings like metal and lighting). It can put out fire, cut rock, and smoother the air.

>>94342853
yeah but he was worst because bending is not just summon fire or control water, is using elements on your favor, making is part of your body

>>94341850
The only good thing that came out of Korra was the fact that she is pretty much how my dream girl looks so it's nice having an unlimited amount of porn of her. Beside that it was a terrible show.

>>94342806
Came out a few days ago actually.

It's... really bad. Like almost as bad as America Chavez.

>>94343063
>Fire nation were Nazi
>Everyone was gay
>Water Tribe are a bunch of conservatives
Also if your parents are ok with it but don't want you to spread your sexuality due to fear or other people, then they are bigots

also CLOSE THE DAMN PORTALS

>>94341919
Pretty much. The fact that anyone still considers Korra canon is mind boggling to me.

>>94341850
>Aang got his tattoo as a mark of mastery in airbending at the age of 12 which drew suspicion of him being the next Avatar
no
>Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4
no
>Aang was a prodigy due to being the Avatar
no

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>>94341850
>Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4 because we have to deal with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmKaQqinWKY

>>94344294
>2nd no
While I wouldn't say "mastered" she very much did display unmatched prowess of earth (she punched a hole through a wall) and fire (opposite of water, the Avatar canonically always struggles with their opposite and she was still a kid). That's way too much for a kid who can't even read yet. But sure, go ahead and pigeonhole OP's entire argument just because you're a corporate shill.

>>94344791
Avatar does not always struggle most with their opposite element. Korra struggling with earth wouldn't make sense since she's so brutish and headstrong. Air makes perfect sense as her struggle since it involves patience and non aggression

>>94342306
Nope

>>94344791
im not watching your shit video

>>94342675
>Wan did fine without anyone to talk to

Except, you know, Raava...

>>94344849
Didn't Aang have trouble with Earthbending because he wasn't good at waiting (i.e. being patient), though? Seems odd that he could master airbending so well if being patient was one of the requirements.

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>>94344849
>Avatar does not always struggle most with their opposite element
>Katara to Aang when training with Toph on Earthbending: "That's why it's so difficult for you to get this. You're working with your natural opposite."
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Transcript:Bitter_Work
>Roku: "Waterbending was especially challenging for me. But in time, I mastered it as well."
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Transcript:The_Avatar_and_the_Fire_Lord
Right, not all, just the two we know and got exposed to during the original series :^)
>Korra struggling with earth wouldn't make sense
At a toddler's age? You know normal earthbenders can't even move their own weight without much struggle. Plus for her age, again, she should be having trouble with anything other than her own element.
>>94344997
Then don't watch it

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>>94344294
you're wrong
you're wrong
eat shit and die

>>94342151
your main point is bullshit.

>>94341919
this

>>94342269
Airbending mastery tattoos were awarded to anyone who created a new technique. Jinora came up with the group tornado thing on the spot. If I remember right, Aang got his for his air scooter. Either way, it represents moving beyond the fundamentals of airbending and into an understanding of their underlying principles.

Like a "masterpiece" in the real world, inventing a new technique seems like it's meant as a capstone to their former tutelage, and signifies a move into independent/professional life and private study.

>>94344791
>But sure, go ahead and pigeonhole OP's entire argument just because you're a corporate shill.
Please don't project on me. He was objectively wrong on those three points and anyone who knows jack shit about the show knows it. I don't even know where the fuck you came up with the corporate shill shit, do I need to tell you I think Korra was at best a mediocre attempt to cover interesting concepts and at worst just an all around bad show?

>>94345363
Yeah I was just shitposting. That's why I didn't mention your other arguments.

>>94345021
And Raava is still there with Korra since she does talk to her in season 4. Getting the voice actor would add to their expenses and the money is better spent on other voice actors who are present who shouldn't be there in the first place or possibly getting someone less expensive.

>>94345226
We see tornado usage with airbending from Aang and Korra though. Asking for others to join in to make it with a longer shape doesn't seem like mastery so much as assistance.

>>94345037
Aang had trouble with earthbending because he's non aggressive and light on his feet. He doesn't figure out earth bending until he takes a stand against the moose lion. It wasn't about patience, it was about having backbone

>>94345520
I was mostly thinking of the fact that Aang had a lot of trouble accepting that Bumi was doing nothing when he was captured and that the latter hyped neutral jing up as something important to earthbending, but what you said is correct, now that you mention it.

>>94345044
You're ignoring that korra didn't master anything as a toddler. She makes a small spurt of fire and splashes water. It took years of intense training for her to become disciplined in the bending arts. There's nothing unreasonable about the child scene.
Also Earth being Aang's struggle goes beyond just being his opposite element. He fights evasively and doesn't rely on brute force. A sturdy element like earth would be the opposite of his fighting style and personality

>>94345520
He already demonstrated backbone way back in the beginning when he allowed Zuko to capture him to save Katara's village from becoming more involved in the fighting.

Korra kept wanting to airbender but couldn't until she stopped trying to airbend and acted out as someone who is not supposed to airbend since she was no longer the Avatar. Like Tenzin said, it will all just click.

>>94345592
Keep in mind Aang agrees to be captured with the intent of escaping. He doesn't plan to go fight the firelord because he's neither ready and its the airbender way to evade. When zuko confronts him he knocks him out and gets the fuck out of there. If korra were in the situation she'd try to fight all of the fire bender guards or even ignorantly agree to confront the firelord. When I say demonstrate backbone, I mean embrace the opposite of his fighting style. To stay grounded and face an obstacle head on instead of dancing around it

>>94345086
>Catalog
Are you retarded. She didn't master the elements at the age of 4

>>94345584
>You're ignoring that korra didn't master anything as a toddler.
No I didn't. I specifically said I wouldn't use that word because it's untrue. And it's definitely unreasonable to be able to spew three elements at such an age. Why would there even need to be people to confirm the Avatar if it would be that obvious?
Also Aang's personality and fighting is directly connected to him being a native airbender. That's a huge reason FOR not being able to bend the opposite element. I'm assuming you're trying to justify Korra firebending via her personality, but if that was the case she would have to struggle with waterbending.

>>94345658
>would have to
Wan had trouble with his opposite element? And waterbending is about community and pouring out your emotions (like Katara would do.)

>>94345658
I have to disagree with water bending being a logical struggle for Korra mainly because of how she uses it. You'll notice that she switches between her three elements rather frequently with each attack. ( One of the things I think the show struggles with is maintaining the unique fighting style each element had in the original ) Korra will throw a punch and that same motion is interchangeable for throwing fire, water, or rock. Korra's style of water bending early on doesn't have the grace and fluidity you see from other water benders. The first time I can think of her actually using water bending traditionally/gracefully is when Unalaq teaches her the spirit bending thing

>>94342020
When the fire nation attacked

>>94345695
>Wan
Stopped reading there. Anything about Wan is just so contradictory to the whole universe and I don't want to dig up sources this late at night when I have work tomorrow. The argument is about Korra compared to the first series' lore, not something established later.
>>94345741
I only said she'd have to struggle if she had the mindset of a firebender. The point is that it doesn't make sense for her to be so good at fire if she's culturally similar to the water tribe or water if her "fiery" personality links her to a firebender mindset. The only way to make any logical sense is for her to be mentally like an earthbender but that just opens an entire different can of worms.
>Korra's bending =/= the original show's
And that's where the core theory lies. Anything in Korra is shit if you compare it to ATLA, and they don't even try to justify her fighting.

>>94345838
It's not one or the other. Fire and earth match her personality. Water not as much, but
1. She uses it aggressively
2. She may have struggled with it during her 10 plus year of training before the show
Air is the perfect element for her to struggle with. It's opposite of her personality and provides reason for Aang's family to be involved in the series. The way in which she gets airbending is not well written but there isn't anything wrong with air being her struggle

>there are people alive who defend Korra
Makes you lose faith in life having any meaning

Ozai is a lame villain and Sozin got more development and motivation in one episode than his generic villain grandson. Prove me wrong

>>94345911
welcome to /co/mblr

>>94345898
i guess being the Avatar of water gave her an advantage to be somewhat skilled with water despite her aggressiveness, kinda like an RPG where depending the class you get bonus point in some stat so with the avatar, you get the plus stat for learning to use your element easy

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>>94346018
hay not everybody had a hate boner get over it

>>94346094
But maybe they should

>>94343063
>Like almost as bad as America Chavez.
Please, have you read America Chavez?

The Korra comic isn't even as bad as some of the Avatar comics.

>>94344228
Because what is and what isn't canon is not determined by what you like. That's called fanon.

>>94341850
>Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4 because we have to deal with it, that's why.
>Woke airbending by asspulling, got the other elements back but never shown progress. Not even learning the new bendings since she was already used to the 3 elements, same ones that gave roots to other bendings discarding lava.
>Now Jinora got her mark of mastery in airbending at age 11, not even as an Avatar which doesn't make sense. Aang was a prodigy due to being the Avatar, not because he was born talented but you're telling me Jinora learn to beat Aang one year less? That is bullshit.

That just shows you how bad the whole LoK was. They destroyed the Avatar journey, destroyed the Avatar, destroyed the spirit world and fucked up in every way. LoK is the worst show i ever seen.

>>94341919
pretty much this

>>94341919
/thread

>>94347463
nope now stop crying over korra

>>94347663
you sound like a fucking fool

>>94341919
how asshurt do you retards need to be

>>94341850
Korra was only able to bend 3 elements when she was four, she wasn't a master. She didn't master firebending until after the timeskip.

just because she can bend them at a 4 does not mean she mastered them what do you think the training all her life was for

>>94347930
'mastering' and being 'a master of' are two different things. Aang mastered all four elements to defeat Ozai. He was a master of only one, maybe two of those elements. Korra mastered three elements at age 4 and will never be a master of any of them because she likes to punch things a lot.
The point is bending proficiently at 4 is crazy enough as it is let alone bending 3 elements. Is absolutely fucking stupid (which is reflective of the series it serves to introduce).

we will have a prequel where an avatar already unlocked everything (even avatar state) as a newborn

is korra still a sue?

>>94348229
She's not definitionally a Sue but she's fucking close. She ruined the series and I'm slowly believing E;R more and more and thinking it was intentional.

>>94342419
Raava gives them a huge power boost anyways.
Korra mastered all four elements and metalbending.

The Earth kid should be fine as long as he does the opposite of what Korra would do.

>>94341850
I didn't watch because the Avatar was a girl. Also, teenagers suck. Aang was better because he was a kid.

>>94348145
everything you just posted is fucking stupid

>>94341850
That's wrong though you retard. Using an element doesn't equal mastery of it. Aang also used firebending in the first season easily but that doesn't mean he was a master of it.

Also yeah Korra had a strong mastery of 3 elements by the age of 16. She's literally spent her entire life being trained by masters in their use.
She grew up in a different time to Aang. Aang was handicapped in what he could learn because the fire nation was out waging war on everyone. Korra never had that problem. She had a whole bunch of adults holding her hand throughout.

Plus Aang mastered all 4 elements by age 12. It took him what, a couple months of training to nail down each of the elements he didn't know.

And Korra didn't pull ait out of no where. She spent most of the season learning air techniques.

I swear Korra haters are all just brain damaged.

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>>94348309
>I didn't watch because the Avatar was a girl

>>94342419
what is this meme

>>94348309
There's only one thing worse than teen characters and that's kid characters.

>>94341850
Avatar was never good.

>>94343063
>It's... really bad. Like almost as bad as America Chavez.
Turf Wars was pretty bad, but America is literally the worst published comic I've ever had the displeasure of reading.

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>>94344143
>>94343063

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>>94341850

>>94343063
Now that's bullshit. Turf Wars was mediocre, that's it.

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>>94343063
>Came out a few days ago actually.
Just like your dad

>>94348259
A Sue wouldn't fuck up as much as Korra did.

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Serious question: would Korra have been more successful in theme and representation of her journey and personality as the Avatar if she was Earth Kingdom instead of Water Tribe?

>>94342184
This

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>>94341850
Everytime I see a Korra thread I'm reminded of how optimistic I was when it was first announced.

>Oh boy a sequel to ATLA! We'll get to see what happens to Zuko's mother that isn't from the comic.
>We'll get to see the old gang again but as fully trained badass adults who are all still best friends.
>New Avatar is a female lead, hopefully she'll be a complex layered protagonist instead of a "independent strong womym."
>Oh? This Korra mastered 3/4 of the elements already? So that means we'll be getting an older Avatar right off the bat. Maybe she's a young adult and not a teenager. That's kind of neat.
>Holy shit Amon, it's a fucking villain who can take away bending FOREVER.
>How the fuck are you going to beat him?
>How the fuck are you going to root AGAINST him?
>That bender vs non bender ideologies with a more mature tone as season ONE.

Goddamn, it's not even about setting high expectations. EVERYTHING was basically panned out for you to make another amazing series. You had the opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle TWICE with the success of ATLA and how much people asked for a sequel/followup and you fucking blew it.

>>94341850
>Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4
This is not true. She mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 17. She was discovered at the age of 4 and was able to manifest bending in 3/4 elements. It took her 13 years to master 3 elements.

>>94347897
And you sound like an idiot.

>>94345439

To be fair, most airbending lore is almost certainly lost.

If the criteria is 'invent something new', having forgotten thousands of years of airbending history kind of resets what counts as 'new techniques'.

>>94349236
It probably would have been better if she was fire nation.

>>94350169
How so? Earth Kingdom aligns with Korra's struggle with learning airbending, which is an inversion of Aang's issue with the subject. She's shown consistently throughout the series to be bullheaded and stubborn, both traits seen commonly in Earthbenders than the other nations. Finally, being Earth Kingdom would tie Korra's actions intimately with the Earth Kingdom which Republic City and both Seasons 3 and 4 reside in rather than her be an outsider and open up more narrative opportunity as a war of who holds the most influence over the Avatar's authority (White Lotus, Earth Kingdom royalty, Red Lotus).

>>94349047
What really makes a Mary Sue isn't how perfect they are (many Mary Sues can be rather obnoxious to the audience). What really matters is how all the other characters treat her. Korra may screw up a lot, but it's hardly ever acknowledged by the plot. Whenever it is acknowleged, it's either by a villain, a friend who always apologizes for saying those things, or herself. When she does try to acknowledge these flaws herself, every character flocks around her and gives her reassurance of how great she is. So, I'd say she's kind of a Mary Sue.

>>94342675
It would be pretty difficult to make bending obsolete. Earthbending would be insane for architecture and construction. Waterbending being able to insta freeze stuff has to have a use somewhere when it comes to abusing the fact that they can ignore thermodynamics like that.

>>94349236
It would have been better if she'd never gotten her bending back. You gotta hit your character where it hurts the most.
It would challenge her view of herself and force her to confront her greatest weakness, instead of giving her airbending because she panicked.
I have spent way too much thought on this.

>>94349023
If that's a mediocre comic i wouldn't want to know what a bad one is to you.

>>94341850
>Then came Korra who mastered 3/4 elements at the age of 4
She could bend 3 elements at the age of 4, she didn't "master" firebending until she was 16.
>>94345226
>Aang got his for his air scooter
He mastered every style but one AND invented the air scooter.

>>94350870
It would tie her more to the earth kingdom for the last two seasons. However her nation origin wasn't really the big issue with the show so i doubt just making her EK would fix the problems overall, but it might satisfy some people who had a problem with her having a hard time with air.

>>94341850
Jinora was older than that.

But consider that all the kids from an avatar are OP. That's why Ozai married Ursa. That's also why Kiyi can melt a FUCKING METAL DOOR.

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>>94341850
Aang getting his tattoos at 12 had nothing to do with how they found out he was the Avatar.

>>94349643
>that moment when she uses the airbending technique to dodge and win the pro bending match
I was really looking forwards to some character development but it never went anywhere. Korra could have learned that fighting things head on isn't always the smart thing to do and the struggle to airbend would have more to do with her character finding different, more peaceful solutions. Aang's personality never changed from learning the elements so this would've been a great way to show how being the Avatar has more to do with tact as they're supposed to keep the balance in the world. But I guess relationship drama was more important.

>>94353282
>this culturally significant ceremony which reveals the Avatar in a supposedly unaware child is completely tossed in the trash for Korra because she can do three sets of bending the minute the White Lotus guys walk into the hut
The opening five minutes did set the scene for how the series would go: destroying cultural traditions and history to seek narcissistic individualism and exceptionalism. Disgusting.

>>94353862
>Korra literally killed Tenzin's dad

>>94354102
>Korra couldn't stop Unalaq killing tenzins dads spirit
ftfy

>>94343063
>>94344143
Any scans yet?

>>94341850
>LoK goes in a radically different direction than TLA
>/co/ shits itself calling bryke a hack and yelling about how much is sucks because lesbians

>LoK goes in the direction of Korra repeating Aang's journey to learn the elements and find her place int he world
>/co/ shits itself calling bryke a hack and yelling about how much is sucks because rehash

>>94354326
It was storytimed here couple days ago.

>>94349643
Tbh seeing people come in with such high hopes and seeing them completely trashed was the best part about Korra.

>>94354846
>thing that happened and is true
>thing that can only be supposed and is irrefutable due to being fantasy
Sasuga Korrafags

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>>94355016
>weeb speak

>>94354846
People are mostly calling them hacks because the direction they chose was a good idea but executed horribly- Everyone were hype for LoK until it started showing it's flaws in storytelling, around episode 5, and book 2 broke most of the viewers hopes for LoK. Lesbians is just the cherry on top, and a perfect example of why it all went to shit.

>>94347910
/co/ is slowly becoming tumblr by getting asshurt by anything. Pretty soon the thought of an animal as a protagonist will trigger /co/

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>>94355057
>literally incapable of critical thought
>/v/ meme

>>94355173
>I'm "incapable of critical thought" for disliking your jargon
Don't even know which meme you're referring to

>>94355253
You're incapable of critical thought through the reasons here:
>>94355016

Seinfeld shit is /v/ as fuck

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>>94355372
I'm not the person you replied to, dipshit
Nor was I ever on /v/

>>94355532
>he says posting /v/ memes that his cancerous fanbase has leeched and replicated
Nice.

>>94354153
>Korra released the embodiment of evil so that it would assassinate the previous avatars as part of her master plan
ftfy

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>>94355579
Says the loudfag

>>94355745
>still hasn't responded to his retarded comparison being refuted

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>>94355784
the delusion is real

>>94355606
Korra didn't kill the past avatars, she wasn't able to prevent their deaths though. And her releasing Vaatu or not doesn't change that.

What element would you be /co/ ?

>>94356012
Magic

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>>94356012
I'd like to be Water, i really like the aesthetic of the watertribes and the martial art it's based on is kinda awesome. The philosophy seems up my alley too.

I'm probably more like an Earth Kingdom citizen though which wouldn't be too bad either. Strong and grounded, stubborn at times and resistant to change. Water and Earth are definately my favorites from Atla.

>>94356012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iisrUSi7Kgw
In case anyone needs help knowing what personality each element reflects

>>94344791
>>94348145
>Korra mastered three elements at age 4

She didn't "master" the elements at age 4. Being able to throw a punch doesn't make you a master of Kung Fu.

>>94356270
I wish he had a bigger impact on LoK, instead of hiring a tricking expert.

>>94356165
I'd probably be fire bender, but Earth kingdom would be my favorite place to live. Iroh had it right all along.