>Marvel Comics will never make gratuitously half-naked

Good

>>94293352
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>94291546
Maybe marvel going to make a swim suit episode. And allow all the marvel girls to be half naked and drawn by cho.

>>94293387
It looks silly and makes the characters hard to take serious

>>94291546
>paying for porn
Loser.

>>94293438
If you had a dick, you'd understand

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>>94293438
Nigga this is superhero comics, we're not meant to take most of it seriously.

>>94291546
It's fine, Marvel will be dead to the people that truely made it matter within a few years, let the casuals have the burnt mangled remains.

>>94291546
>Lol, you are just a clone and all your memories are fake and your husband left you and your kid for the original version

What was the point of this?

>>94293599
To show what an asshole Cyclops could be

>>94293438
>hard to take serious
Motherfucker these are comicbooks. Seriousness is not important.

I always had more of a thing for woman in armor rather than woman in bikini anyway.

>>94293692
Skimpy armor

> we have the internet now

Yeah i think this is a fair trade-off

>>94291546

I wouldn't say "Never" again, but it'll probably be a while.

>>94293482
Tell that to Batfags.

>>94291546

You can see photographs and illustrations of women in various states of undress by going to fucking DeviantArt. Why do you need comics to be overrun with them?

I don't mind a good bit of cheesecake. I ask for it every so often in the drawthreads, and I love the Big Tits edit threads. But if there is no worthwhile reason for a female character's costume to show off half her body - nothing related to her character or the story which she inhabits that justifies a sleazy costume - I see no reason why she should be wearing such a costume beyond cheap titilation meant as a disguise for poor writing.

>>94293950
Considering Kite Man is becoming the hit new character, I don't think a lot of Batfags take them too seriously either

I think they still do cheesecake covers man.

>>94293470
You can have a dick and still see and object to being pandered and talked down to.

Also wide-release comic books are and have always been for the lower classed and underprivilged, which in 2017, really isn't straight white men. In fact, pandering exclusively to them is the reason the industry is less than half it was 20 years ago.

>>94294060
But since we're getting the poor writing anyway...

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>>94291546
They occasionally let it slip.

>>94293397
They were planning to make a Swimsuit episode and fun fact... They only drew dudes in it.

>>94294524
So you are saying that pandering to Tumblr is also bad too because pandering to straight dudes is bad.
Also
>ITS THE CURRENT YEAR

>>94294553

Not an excuse.

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>>94294524
Also what the fuck is this thing being pandering to only straight white men? Have you seen Mexican comics? Or how Brazilian artists draw their female characters (pic related)? Or how black men prefer their female characters THICC?

Why does everyone assume that only white men appreciate this?

>>94294060
>You can see photographs and illustrations of women in various states of undress by going to fucking DeviantArt. Why do you need comics to be overrun with them?
This is such a shitty argument that people continuously use, "Why does there need to be half naked women in everything, just go use the internet"

Just because you can easily access this stuff online doesn't mean it should be completely stripped away from everything else.

>>94294867

What the hell is the point of shoving them into every frame of a comic book? (Other than pandering to existing fanboys, that is.) I'm not saying "NO CHEESECAKE ANYWHERE", I'm saying there should be something more to a female character than her tits and her ass being shown off in vacuum-sealed spandex.

>>94294850
That's different. Literally every other medium can enjoy gratuitous sexuality BUT comics. because they desperately want to court any other audience and think acting "mature" is the only way to do it and they do it every generation since at least the 90s. They're basically that dweeby kid in school who tries hard to reinvent himself and distance himself from everything and one that he thought made him uncool. But misses the point entirely and every one still sees him as the same person.

>>94294895
That's rarely ever been the case though. Only people who don't read comics think it's that overdone.

>>94294895
>I'm saying there should be something more to a female character than her tits and her ass being shown off in vacuum-sealed spandex.
There should, unfortunately marvel has no clue how to do this, clearly shown by making half their female characters unlikable and giving them terrible redesigns scaring off the people who have been proven to actually buy their products.

>>94294524
This is great bait.

Also we all know poor people can't read.

>>94294829
>jerking off to dagger
might as well jerk off to Jerry's mom fucking that black guy

>>94293438
I bet you think Superman needs an armored battle suit with Tron lines to be taken seriously, too.
>>94293692
Same here.

>>94294524

Well, that, and never branching out beyond capeshit. I mean, fuck, I'd love to read Western comics that aren't licensed bullshit or capeshit, but NOOOOOOOOOO, we can't have that.

>>94294949
>literally every other medium
Have you seen what they done to gaming? Though to be fair, its more or less the same perception of audience they have for comics.

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>>94295026
What is wrong with Dagger, anon?

>>94294079
Except he just received a tragic backstory that batfags will use to make him serious

>>94291546
christ just look up porn if you're that desperate

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>>94291546
here's a pic of TJ in the Maddie costume from an upcoming issue of X-Men Blue.

obviously we don't know what colorist will do yet, but it's better than the sharpie edit job they did to Goblin Queen's costume in X-Tinction Agenda Secret Wars mini.

>>94295137
>Kite Man
>tragic backstory
Oh god, I can only imagine...

Billy was an ordinary boy, out at the park flying kites with his loving mother and her boyfriend Ted who Billy was on good terms with. It was a idyllic day until a rogue thunderstorm road in across the plains, a bolt of lightning struck the earth taking the lives of Billy's mother, and Ted, all that remained was Billy and his kites. Grief stricken, and alone, on that day Billy decided to become one with his Kites, and ride the wind, searching for the storm that killed his Mother, and some guy named Ted

On that day, he became KITE MAN!

>>94295207
So TJ is a drag queen yes?

>>94295179
Porn is fake as hell and very unappealing.

>>94295215
Close, his son and him liked flying kites, but then he got involved with the Joker and the Riddler, which made the Riddler kill his son after Batman forced him to spy on Riddler and Joker
Kiteman says hell yeah because his son said it and who feared he'd go to hell by saying it, so now he says it so he can go to hell and see his son

>>94295725
>Kiteman says hell yeah because his son said it and who feared he'd go to hell by saying it, so now he says it so he can go to hell and see his son
wow thats sad

>>94295831
I think it's more sad that it's Batman's fault in the first place, yet he still hasn't felt any repercussions for it

We need realism in our comics.

So why don't all these people just become cops with standard uniforms if they want to be heroes?

Because it's fantasssssyy.

>>94295038
>What is image comics?

>>94293438
but they make me seriously hard

>>94294524
>Also wide-release comic books are and have always been for the lower classed and underprivilged, which in 2017, really isn't straight white men.

>keeps raising prices

Oh wait this is bait

I think I can be ok with skin tight suits and occasional cleavage.
I have a bigger problem with Marvel cutting off all the girls' long hair into short ugly as shit hair cuts

>>94291546
I'm glad.

>>94293352
This. No one wants to have a boner 24/7. Comics shouldn't be set to ecchi all the time.

Sorry about your peens, fellas. Hopefully you can recover

>Ha, ha, silly boys
>The thread

>>94293387
He's not a horny teenager?

>>94291546
Dont see a problem with that. I read hero comics for heros and not sluts in stripper boots. watch porn if you want porn

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>This whole thread
>>94293692
The tier list goes
>Well Designed impractical ornate armor>typical heroine skin tight suits>sexy bikini>drab practical armor
Beyond tiering S-Class: Impractical ornate bikini armor

>>94299380
Thanks for your opinions, anon.

>>94299380
What about wearing a bondage suit with belts and chains that restrict movement?

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The fuck is this?

>>94299456
Early 2000 Emma Frost costume.

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>>94299433
How restricted are we talking?

>>94299456
I just love how it looks.
>"I'm going to get fucked by some fat slob aren't I?"

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Women like cheesecake just as much as men. Why do you think the biggest buyers of Tarot and Sunstone are women? Also, there are plenty of women who like to draw nude women, or cheesecake

>>94295207
The fuck... I thought X-men and mutants were still allowed to get away with attractive women, and you know, breasts...

Did Marvel start caring about muties again?

>>94293470
>>94294524
No see you need a dick AND balls.

>>94300506
Nah, it's just that the last time they tried to put Maddie in her actual outfit, tumblr threw a shit fit and Marvel felt pressured to change it to remove the underboob.

>>94299456
An X made from cheesecake.

>>94293438
I agree on the silly part but
>taking stuff in comics seriously

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>>94300857
the key is to get women to draw cheesecake then

>>94295055
Gaming doesn't even go as far as comics do. Most of the feminist friendly games flopped so studios have stopped giving a shit again. Only the worst lame asses that are the last to get the memo like E.A and Activision are still on the sjw train. Even Ubisoft has stopped at this point. Their trailer for beyond good evil 2 was filled with cheesecake. Major studios like CDprojectred and Billizard continued to ignore complaints from feminists and produce cheesecake too. So I'd have to say comic books are the worst of the bunch.

>>94300506
Marvel likes money so they're slowly rolling back on the whole no cheesecake policy, so you still see it on variant covers

>>94295096
He's a casual that thinks Cloak and her are an item

>>94291546
>Marvel Comics will never make gratuitously half-naked women ever again.

Emma Frost hasn't been killed off yet, so there's still a chance they will.

>>94300456
In order for comics to survive the small existence that they have, comics have to appeal to kids. Kids are the new blood that will keep comic books existing.

Appealing to virginal men in their 20s and 30s that just want to see cheesecake in comics is not profitable or sustainable. The internet offers a huge amount of cheesecake fanart for these people. Go look at that shit and stop whining about Disney and TimeWarner not making fap material for grown men.

>>94297682

What IS Image Comics?

>>94293950
so there should be more gratuitous nudity in Batman comics? Good idea.....

>>94301450
>teens don't like cheesecake
uh..anon were you born yesterday?

>>94297971
>but they make me seriously hard

The internet is like 90% shit for masturbation. Go look at that or fill out a OKcupid profile.

>>94301450
Are you implying that 13 year old boys don't like cheesecake ? Yeah he's the one that's out of touch. Going by the YouTube channels kids are actual watching. The sjw crap is even less popular with them. It's basically the equivalent of bible fumping in the 80s and 90s. Their kids probably have them more then the 30 year old man children do. It just shows how incredibly out of touch and isolated media is in general now.

>>94293387
Not that guy, but it often looks really dumb?

I don't mind it in certain instances, like in pulp fantasy. But the vast majority of almost-naked designs in cape comics are just cringeworthy dross.

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>>94301576
I'm for it.

>>94293438
But a character dressing up as a bat because a bat crashed into his window when he was talking to himself, sorry I mean his dad, is very easy to take seriously.

>>94299380
Eh, if you have to make your character actually naked in order to make them sexy, you're a bad character designer. Look at all the premium waifus in games and comics and animu - they're rarely ever that skimpily dressed, they have actual sexy designs instead.

>>94301662
>>94301582
>20-something virgins defending cheesecake comics by saying teenagers like it too

You are not getting my point. You don't keep a teen reader by publishing cheesecake. He whacks off and then forgets the comic because there is an ocean of fap material on the internet.

Just because you masturbated to comics as a teen and kept doing it doesnt mean all teen guys did the same. A lot of those teens got girlfriends and got a life and forgot those comics. That is why selling/publishing cheesecake is stupid on a business level. You lose readers. The point of a business is to gain readers, and you only alienate kids, especially young girls, by publishing pandering cheesecake.

>>94301815
You delusional. And not everything cheesecake is just for masterbation and then done with it. People read it, like the look of the women and keep going because of story and characters. Rogue is liked so much because she is hot enough to get people to continue reading her books.

Sex sells, why do you think all advertisements are unbelievably attractive women and men? CAUSE IT SELLS YOU RETARD! So back to your SJW tumblr

>>94301815
And you aren't getting my point. This antisex crap is not popular among kids and girls have no problem with cheesecake. It's the equivalent of fundamentalism from the 80s and 90s. Liberal identity politics are on the last leg. Kids have always liked Cheesecake just because some 30 something went children writing articles say they don't doesn't make it true. It's utter nonsense.

>>94301927
Just passing through and saw this. You're really stupid if you believe that. Like just plain dumb.

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First of all, what does cheesecake mean?

Olympic athletes dont wear a lot of clothes, and characters with superhuman strength and durability dont need tactical kevlar inspired clothing

Madelyne was a demonic queen, giving her extremely sexualizef fetish clothes makes sense because of her "sinful" nature

>>94301947
You're really stupid if you believe little girls give a shit about sexy women and that little boys don't like cheesecake. Like just plain dumb.

>>94301947
Go outside and look at any magazine cover, it's all over sexed people.

>>94291546
If that's supposed to be bad in the now pussified Marvel, why Would''t they? Villains like the Goblin Queen maintaining skimpy outfits would push their PC agenda.

>>94294524
Well, the reason why the sales are down, when appealing to straight, white men, is because there's a white genocide.

We've actively been demonised for my entire life, and I've seen a lot of friends just opt out of society. White people ain't having kids and have lost all hope and don't really have hobbies or much money these days.

So technically you're right, so yes I do agree with your comment that we are in danger of completely losing our identity due to mass migration across the western world.

>>94302422
Just asymilate harder

>>94295096
>implying she has never fucked cloak
>>94301425
>reading cloak and dagger

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>>94294524
Every time I see a post like this, I vote for a republican.
I voted Trump because of posts like this.

>>94302449
/co has a darker sense of humour than I thought.

So you're saying the demographics have shifted so much the other way now, that WHITES have to assimilate into this homogeneous, brown SJW culture.

Very droll.

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>>94302450
>being proud of being a casual
>fantasizes about Cloak and Dagger fucking

>>94293387
I don't like looking at retarded costumes like that if I've already fapped for the day.

>>94302500
You see obvious bait and have it effect your voting? Jesus christ

>>94302500
Dumbest post ITT desu

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>>94302422
>>94302506
>ITS DUH ESJAYDUBYAHS FAULT MY LIFE IS DUMB AND DEM WHITE GURLZ BANGIN EVERY BLACKMANG DEY TALKZ TO

>>94302500
>letting shitpost b8 effect your real life
What the fuck, Anon?

>>94302520
So they are siblings or something?

>>94294060
Cuck faggot

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>>94302001
Beach volleyball is the most watched summer olympic game (outside soccer, so in North America it is Beach Volleyball). And if anything thinks it's because of the sport they are idiots.

Sex sells, in comics it still does. DC knows this and they make huge bank on Harley Quinn because of it.

>>94301947
>imma pretend I haven't been samefagging this thread to death

>>94302500
You fucked your country because people on the internet made you mad?
wew lad.....

>>94302520
the only cloak and dagger book I've ever read was secret wars runaways. No one likes this cloak and dagger interracial shit

>>94291546
>needing mainstream comics
Anyone here could be the hero the medium needs. Just start practicing and creating content.

Digital technology makes it so easy to self-publish and make it big, so the only excuse is your own laziness.

>>94293599
Editorial fucked over Claremont by bringing back that harlot JEEEEEAN and making cyclops unretire so he got revenge by fucking up maddy

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>>94293352
>>94293438
>>94294524
>being this much of a beta

>>94294524

hi /leftypol/

>>94303400
>people don't want to celebrate, they want to complain

why is this so true?
4chan is one of the more obvious examples of this phenomenon. what is it about humans that makes us seek negativity? we practically thrive on it.

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Fucking moralizing on nudity.

This is why I prefer Japanese media, they don't give a shit and just make things people enjoy.

I don't want to be fucking preached to or taught how to think.

>>94303584
Culture that says that being happy is wrong.

>>94303594
>they don't give a shit and just make things people enjoy.
Some people.
Like I'm not trying to claim I'm on some higher ground, just you know, opinions.

>>94303584
I agree, even the OP could be reading and enjoying older comics.
>>94303741
You also completely missed the point of what was being said in order to make a really obvious point.
Jesus.

>>94303798
What was the point then

>>94302753
LOLberals wanted to fuck their country just as badly because people on the tv and internet hurt their feelings.

>>94303980
>I must fuck everything up before someone else does

Are you sure you are old enough to vote?

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>>94302500
>>94303980

>>94304061
>>94304199
>"your way of fucking the country up is way worse than MY way of fucking the country up u meany racist!!"

>>94304398
thanks nigger, but I live in an UNfucked country.

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>>94302422
>there are anons in this thread who don't realize this is a joke

Just make an equal number of men half naked an attractive as well

>>94306718
There are a lot of attractive half naked men already.
It's just that most girls don't read comics and those who read don't do it for the beefcake.

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>>94306772
>those who read don't do it for the beefcake.
and cheesecake. women who like to read comics like sexy women in them too.

>>94303400
More like baita.

>>94306772

Alot of the girls i know are heavy into comics and like eye-candy as much as I do.

>>94303867
The point was creators in japan make what they want without worrying about cries for social justice.
Western comics are only catering to one group, and that group is very censorship-heavy.

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>>94306967
I mean, that's only half true.
Sure they don't have to worry too much about cries for social justice because that's barely a thing in Japan. The highly traditional culture pretty much snuffs out any social movement.
Saying they can do whatever they want is a complete lie however because they have to cater to another group to have any chance of having their product stay on the market.
That group of course being the otaku consumers.
Between the general media output it basically comes down to which group's needs your own interest most align with which is why I said "Some people."
So I don't think I really missed the point here then.

>>94306844
>>94306934
Where I am from not to much people are into comics and most girls are there because of the stories and some of them actually like beefcake.

>>94307217
The biggest buyers of comics with nudity are women. Stuff like Tarot Knight of the Black Rose, Sunstone and Rothic Comics are mostly bought by women

>>94291546
no

they won't

but it doesn't mean WE can't make those women /co/! lets make Image2 and flounder for a bit in the 90s only to have the Walking Dead bail us out in 2008 or so and make shittons of money

>>94303584
i want to celebrate her huge tits >>94303400
but women complain!

see? its true!

>>94307217
Well amigo, where i am, people are ok with comic nerds. a girl i used to work with has at least one of the Locke and Key keys tattoo'd (i cant remember which key)

>>94307304
I didn't expected that to be honest but I believe you.

>>94307492
He isn't realistic

>>94299456
Did you take that from my room? Bring it back!

>>94303584
Were you on /pol/ when Brexit or Trump won? It was crazy.

>>94307522
>Geek girls are real
I want to believe you anon.

>>94301132
A+

>>94291546
>Marvel Comics will never make gratuitously half-naked women ever again.

Does this mean from now on they'll be fully naked?

>>94294524
>minorities
>capable of reading
What timeline is this?

>>94291546
That'd make fans happy, and their current policy is making fans angry because they think it sells comics, somehow.

>>94291546

You know real porn still exists, right?

>>94311707
yes, but I don't want porn, I want comics to have sexy women. Why is it ok for movies and tv to have sexy women in every show but not comics? Is cinema suddenly more redpilled than comics?

>>94293559
>will be dead
What year do you think it is?

>>94302450

It's actually a regular plotpoint.
Tyrone is madly in love with Tandy most of the time and he needs her to literally be with him so her powers prevent him from consuming himself.

Tandy on the other hand is frequently shown as strained by the friendship. She has no interest in Tyrone romantically (most of the time) but she can't leave him to go be happy with someone else or he dies, and any relationship she has is going to be strained when future boyfriends realize that there's always going to be a big scary shadowman sitting in the corner of the room wanting to crush their throats.

Tyrone needs Tandy, because she's the only woman he could ever love somewhat normally.
Tandy doesn't need Tyrone but stays because she's a good person and still cares about her friend.
It's a complicated

Of course this is going to go down the tubes when the show portrays it as yet another generic IR WWBM relationship and completely kill any of the substance between the two.

>>94294524
>Also wide-release comic books are and have always been for the lower classed and underprivilged, which in 2017,

There are more poor White people than there are poor Black people simply because there are a lot more White people in this country than Black.

Also most Black people I know love Peter Parker and hate Miles.

>>94294524
Here we go with the straight white male privilege talk. Fuck this fucking board.

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>>94301143
Blizzard does pander to the SJW but at the same time doesn't. They made a russian dyke into a character but then skimpy outfits on most of the other women in the game. They are riding the fence methinks.

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>>94312135

I wish /co/mblr and /poltv/ would both just fucking die. Both groups act so invested in the state of comics, yet neither group actually reads them in any significant number.
/poltv/ views them as childish trash and /co/mblr views it as another thing to tarnish with their agendas. All either one cares about is getting a victory over the other, the context of that victory doesn't matter.
Both groups would happily sacrifice the entire medium and crash thr industry if it meant getting to laugh in the other group's faces.
Fuck all of them.

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>>94304693
Switzerland will get fucked soon enough.

>>94293352
>>94293438
Why do you hate women's bodies? Are you a sexist? A misogynist?

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>>94313248
they're the jealous landwhales that try to shit up every cheesecake thread.

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>>94291546
It is a shame but at least there are a lot of alternatives nowadays.

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>>94301767
I'm not saying you have to make a character naked to make them sexy.
I'm saying I tend to like the over the top armor the most.
And in the end Practical Armor is typically more boring than anything else.

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L to R

Carol Danvere, Squirrel Girl, Crystal, Kitty Pryde, Medusa

Press F

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How does one go from

>>94314294
>>94314516
?

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>>94314590
to this?

>>94314516
What is wrong with Kitty?

>>94293438
Why would you want to take cape comics serious? They are inherently silly and i might add kinky when you think about it. Bunch of people running around in skin tight gimp suits punching people

>>94311707
skimpy outfits=/= porn also,
nudity=/= porn

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>>94314617
God Damn it marvel, it wouldn't take much to make that outfit work

>>94315149
Anon just likes to pick cherries.

>>94295681
And poorly drawn capeshit cheesecake isn't? Read Serpieri's Druuna.

>>94314753
They made her a tomboy.

>>94294524
20 years ago, the industry was in the middle of a crisis because their shit stories didn't sell.
How are those numbers going, eh Marvel?

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>>94312299
Gold post anon. You pretty much said everything I came here to post.
Have a qt.

>>94315273
Well she is a computer nerd

>>94303400
God, I miss her.

>>94293438
I want tumblr and pol to leave.

>>94291546
Never say never. In a decade the SJW craze will have died down and artists will be free to attire their characters however they desire.

Of course, in a decade, the comics industry itself will likely be on its last legs, so it won't matter much.

>>94293692
I bet you also have a thing for women in burkas.

>>94294060
Did anyone say that comic need to be overrun with them?

>>94301143
>Beyond Good and Evil 2
>Cheesecake
Pick one and only.

>>94315620

It'll be sooner than a decade. We're already what..5-6 years into this shit right now? And people are already turning their noses up at this bullshit in increasingly higher numbers.
Marvel won't be able to sustain itself for another decade like this. It's already reaching the breaking point, and Legacy is going to fucking bomb. Hard.
I give this shit until 2020.

>>94301815
Ha, did you know how many titles in the shounen jump has fanservice and cheesecake? i would dare to say like 80% of them