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So I read a theory that the current TTGo apocalypse is because

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So I read a theory that the current TTGo apocalypse is because CN is trying to scare away shareholders and go under without ending the network themselves. This could apparently be because they're behind in ratings behind Nick and Disney and PPG was a catastrophic flop for them that made them bleed money.
Could this be legitimate?
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If CN goes under doesn't the network automatically end?
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It's marginally believable bullshit.
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>>94264187
Apparently they just want it to burn to the ground and put a new network there instead.
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>>94264105
I feel like it's more because CN America hates every show they have except for TTG. Basically the current top guys inherited the tweens-teens demographic that Adventure Time started pandering to, and all the cartoons that followed it.

Now, in part because of CN's autism (and now that I think about it quite possibly because of executive mandate trying to make TBS's animation block Turner's new 13+ animation guys) they want to shift to a waaay younger demographic, younger than CN's ever pandered to, and as a result CN literally has no shows that they can play. They give Gumball lipservice because it isn't as bad and PPG and Ben 10 were supposed to be the "boy toy" and "girl toy" factories so it didn't really matter how much airtime they got, and Mighty Magiswords is progress, but outside of that all their other shows (current and cancelled) are either too edgy, too quiet, or too smart to drag toddlers away from their tablets and endless stream of Let's Plays and Finger Family vids.

I suspect that if CN could, they'd cancel half their lineup right now and half their upcoming lineup, but because of unknown under the table shit much of these shows (like Steven Universe) are safe, for now, and are instead being slowly phased out.
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>>94264242
>put a new network there

I... what? I mean this is the age of digital signal, it's not like they're taking up an actual band that they need to vacate. I'd reckon here the plan is to burn it all so they can absolve themselves of obligatigations to stockholders, reaquire their stock/assets and start over entirely fresh?

What sort of channel would they even be replace it with?
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>>94264369
>CN wants to air TTG because they want to target a younger demographic
This could be plausible, especially coming from Miller's alleged hatred of Adventure Time and Regular Show, but don't tell me that TTG isn't absurdly risque either. They literally have foot fetish and leg fetish episodes. It may be shit, but don't pretend like it's Teletubbies.
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>>94264388

The CN that Stu Snyder wanted. The CN that would centre on live-action shows with a smattering of animated shows played at haphazard times. The CN that would've been if CN Real hadn't been a disaster.

You think they won't do it to get on Nick and Disney's levels? They will.
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>>94264369
But isn't 90's nostalgiabait the absolute hottest thing right now? Isn't that exactly what Nick and Disney are doing and it's practically printing gold? Why don't they do that instead?
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>>94264105
CN has done this shit for decades. It's nothing new. The only thing that interrupted these marathons/repeat episode airings of shit like PPG/Dexter's/Cow & Chicken/Whatever in the 90's and early 00's was Toonami. They haven't had an afternoon block of separate shows since.
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>>94264369
them going in this direction is something i'm really afraid of

in which case, the only widely available animated programs will be either dumbed down kiddie shit or seth macfarlane clones, with the occasional thing that adult swim might take a risk on

it's really disheartening how much social media and such has seemed to kill the adolescent and young adult market
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>>94264369
>>94264105
>>94264388

CN is owned by Turner Broadcasting, which is a subsidiary of Time Warner.

It has no direct stockholders.
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>>94264105
>it's another "/co/ falls for made up bullshit" episode

this is easily debunked, especially the April Fools nonsense, they did not repeat the same episode all day that day
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No, that's stupid. TTGo is one of their cheapest shows thanks to the budget animation and their parent company owns the rights to the characters. Even if not many people like it, they still make a killing off it because it costs them almost nothing to air.
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Yeah i don't see that megaman cartoon pulling through. Who's running the place to the ground?
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>>94264488
It's less the content itself and more the flashy colors and loud noises.

>>94264526
Because CN is retarded. That's about it. Somebody at CN looks at toddlers addicted to their tablets and thinks "hmmm, there's a useful untapped market", and shifts the entire company strategy to try and pander to them.
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>>94264488
TTG is basically the cartoon version of those weird vids of people in party City costumes slapping each other's asses they are so popular on YouTube since kids have literally no taste
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>>94264801
Honestly leave it be anon. The kids here need their tinfoil theories to justify to themselves why CN doesn't air shows they like
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If that were true they wouldn't be making new shows, and TTGO apparently gets ratings.
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>>94264801
They had the Tuesdays and Thursdays blocks through the years.
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>>94265626
Kids should be watching all of that DEEP and EDGY stuff amirite anon? Yeah, fucking kids wanting to just watch things that make them laugh, why can't they have "refined" tastes like you?
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>>94265027
Honestly Disney and Nick are still doing pretty decently as is, and TBS's new block looks really really promising, [as] is pumping new blood into the industry, and even Netflix is stretching their legs a bit with stuff like Bojack Horseman.

Also, social media did shit. Social media and such killed the toddler-children market, who are easily entertained by that shit. The reason that tween-teen animation doesn't sell is because, with all the restrictions on animation these days those youngins have way better options on what to watch.

Why watch the Legend of Korra stumble around political and adult topics with shitty animation for 20 minutes when you could get all the blood and gore and titties you could possibly want with something like Game of Thrones? The reason why anime doesn't exist in America is because Hollywood fills that "guns and boobies" checkbox already, and with a far wider audience at that.
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>>94265754
/pol/ aside, Castlevania seems to have done well, though you might explain that using the licence I guess.
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>>94265724
His point, my dear autist, is that these people are capitalising on kid's lack of taste. You can show literally anything flashy and random to a child and they'll eat it up and want more. It's the only reason those terrible "Spider-Man Elsa fart spank sorandumb" videos on YouTube get billions of views.
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>>94264105

Running Teen Titans 300 times in one week couldn't possibly damage the network as much as greenlighting Mighty Magiswords did.
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>>94264526
nuPPG was supposed to be their nostalgia bait show.
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They just play it for the same reason Nick used to play nonstop Spongebob: It gets ratings and kids don't mind watching reruns of it. It's also why other light comedy shows like Gumball get a lot of air time. There's no conspiracy to kill the network going on.
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>>94264105
Do they really repeat the same episodes again and again?
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>>94264500
This sounds like a terrible idea.
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>>94264105
CN always repeats episodes though although not this bad Back then If could not get the 8 am airing of the new Swat Kat episode I would just wait until 3 hours of top cat reruns would finish and watch it at 11 am or at 3pm
Granted they did have more shows back then but tv is a dying medium
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>anyone actually thinking a convoluted plan to sink the network is more likely than mere incompetence
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>>94269793
The Grey's Law addendum to Hanlon's Razor exists for a reason, anon.
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Is there some reason CN seems to be avoiding Regular Show reruns ever since it ended?

I mean the show did run for 8 seasons seems like a staple rerun show which it was even when it was still airing
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>>94270458
a regular show rerun would do worse in the ratings than a ttg rerun so why bother
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>>94270484

does ttg really get such consistent ratings that diversification doesn't even matter at all?
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>>94270528
Or maybe that they believe that once a show is over, they don't do reruns of it anymore. No Regular Show, Cloudy, and Uncle Grandpa.
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>there are people on this board that defend Teen Titans GO

It's like some cruel stupid joke, mocking me in the face. I wanted this at one point. Maybe.
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>>94270720
>there are people on the Internet that defend Teen Titans GO
FTFY
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>>94270682

This seems very silly to me

CN is just sitting on a bunch of shows doing nothing with them

at least they should be reairing the highly successful ones on a decent basis
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>>94270720
The retards who hate the show do so primarily because it's popular or because it's aired frequently and their favorite show isn't as popular and its to the point that create retarded theories to explain why CN does it or that the network is on the verge of death when neither are true. CN posted a profit this quarter and they do air other shows but GO is king so the king gets the due and that causes childish butthurt
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>>94270753
In other words, Gumball.
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>>94266690
I keep hearing about these fabled Spider-Man Elsa vids but I refuse to ever watch them can you describe its content for me?
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>>94270836

It's the non-gory video equivalent of those Elsa brain surgery games.
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>>94266767
Jesus Christ who hurt you.
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>>94270836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKiQgGGmxI
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>>94271331
He's addicted to the T.
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As long as adult swimaterial stays I couldn't give less of shit.
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>>94266767
Magiswords has its flaws, but it ain't as terrible as you're making it to be.
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>>94264105
>he's complaining about TT:Go!
>in this day and age
>doesn't know how to change the channel on his TV
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>>94264105
No and you should feel bad for believing it
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Ehh, the other networks have shows to watch.
Who even watches TTGN for anything other than adult swim?
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>>94264488
>They literally have foot fetish and leg fetish episodes. It may be shit, but don't pretend like it's Teletubbies.
Considering the Spiderman and Elsa youtube shit kids watch, I think foot and leg fetish stuff is gonna do nothing for them.
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>>94265263
Prove it. Otherwise you're just disinfo.
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>>94265754
>Hollywood fills that "guns and boobies" checkbox already
Yeah but the problem with hollywood is that it's 3dpd
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>>94264105
Stop this bullshit. Read fucking q reports. CN is not going anywhere and still a viable asset making bank.You fucking idiots making up conspiracies all the time thinking people do not research is fucking annoy. Stop it Alex Jones. Go play Disney intern elsewhere.
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>>94264105
>burn the channel to the ground or watch PowerPuff Twerk reboot live on
Decisions decisions
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>>94272970
Where's your proof they're not going anywhere?
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>>94270458
There's a very good reason why Regular Show hasn't been reran since it ended.

Once a series on CN has ended, it's immediately buried by the network with jo funeral and never mentioned outside of anniversary promos.

Don't expect to see any Uncle Grandpa reruns in the near future too.
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>>94273114

wouldn't really consider that a good reason just a reason
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>>94265655
>>94264801
Both of you are massively retarded, just letting you know

Whenever old CN had a marathon, it didn't last for MONTHS like TTG and Johnny Test did.
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>>94271375
It's almost kinda funny in a weird ironic way. Almost.
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The state of CN is why women named Christina need to be dragged into the woods and beaten to a pulp.
Why is every single female with that name is a fucking retarded bitch?
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>>94264105
That and Trump thrashing CNN will be the death of Turner and the return of The WB in the States.

From the looks of it Turner will be adsorbed into Warner Bros.
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>>94264105
So, instead of waking the fuck up and improving programming, they just want to figuratively kill the channel? Wow, just like actual politicians.
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>>94274654
Blame Trump, but look at the bright side, Turner will be absorbed into Warner Bros and The WB will be coming back.

That means Looney Tunes will be airing regularly again.
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>>94265307

This. It's the same reason Johnny Test used to air all the time. It could get basically no views and still make them money.
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>>94274967
Even Johnny Test at its worst wasn't this bad.
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>>94275063
It was close however.
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Ok Autists, enough fantasy and now reality.

Cartoon Network still has one of the highest availability percentages in subscription television. That means a lot when certain providers are looking for excuses to drop under performing networks to reduce costs

Cartoon Network posted a profit this quarter which means their ad revenue is in the black and their merchandising is in the black

Cartoon Network is currently producing and marketing new shows, Networks in the throes of despair don't do things like that.

They aren't dying, GO oversaturation isn't a herald of doom, they're still going to be around. You're still going to be mad. The End
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>>94275166
Uhhh....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROc-oanMuo
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>>94264105
Maybe something better could replace it? Probably not but hey,we're all just guessing here.
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>>94275235
Yea, this.

Alongside replacing the Seth MacFarlane 3 with 90 minutes of this.
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>>94274800
>That means Looney Tunes will be airing regularly again.
Not an american, so i probably shouldn't care. Besides, I'd rather look forward to new stuff
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>>94270760

Overexposure is a perfectly legitimate reason to hate a show, especially if it deprives ratings from other decent shows that need them to stay on the air.
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>>94275438
You get new Looney Tunes content that surpasses this in terms of production quality and budget.

Also more Looney Tunes DVDs & Blu-Rays as well.
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>>94274286
Did a girl named Christina break your heart?

Move on, faggot
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>>94275614
Cable companies have stopped relying on Neilson ratings ages ago. It's all about On Demand and stream numbers now
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>>94275930
t. Christina
Fuck off bitch.
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>>94275981
You still have over the air to deal with as not everyone has high speed internet and/or cable.
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>>94264488
>They literally have foot fetish and leg fetish episodes. It may be shit, but don't pretend like it's Teletubbies.
So? Cartoons have always had fetish material. Not sure what makes TTG so special in that regard.
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>>94264105
You know how bad it has gotten? In my country there's no CN anymore.

The channel dissapeared, and the only way to watch the shows is with public television months after they first aired.
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>>94276507
If you don't have cable or satellite, then you don't have Cartoon network anyway, in America at least.
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>>94276675
Hence TBS replacing Seth MacFarlane 3 with 90 minutes of Looney Tunes.
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>>94270458
Also Regular Show is lore heavy and basically the current top brass HATE HATE HATE lore heavy shows. Which is also one of the main reasons TTG gets so much airtime: 99% of all of the episodes are stand alone and can be aired out of sequence.
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No, I think that new Miller bitch is just an idiot.
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>>94264105
Wouldn't cable and satellite drop them from their subscriptions first?
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>>94264242
Not really a new network, they want to transition over to the Boomerang App.

Subscription services for individual shows on phones is the future according to Turner and Warner.
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>>94264369
>>94264488
They did this back in 09' and then cancelled Chowder and Flapjack because they wanted to transition over to a 12-14 agegroup.
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>>94277429
Not after what happen to CNN, all the Turner networks are on their death bed.
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>>94277429
They're not wrong, people stream all the time when they're outside or at work. HBO GO has more subscribers than the actual HBO channel
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>>94277467
All Turner Networks are owned by Warner. Turner is just operated as a subsidiary for tax and anti monopoly purposes.
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Cartoon Network always fucks up
Remember the Hall of Game Awards?
https://youtu.be/AnGTcr_Czo0
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>>94277575

Mm hm. Somebody post the collage of bored children.
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>>94264500
Everyone wants the current Disney model which is tween live shows followed up with cartoons and then a heavy dose of tween music.

Nick moved over to a much more Disney styled format back in 08-ish and even imitated the tween music videos in commercial breaks.

CN Live was a real half assed attempt at this since their shows were not quite the same thing. They were not music driven nor did they have any plots to them. Disney and Nick tween live shows are kiddie sitcoms with laugh tracks and loads of CGI to keep kids interested. CN Real was a collection of kid versions of Discovery Channel shows. With Man vs Wild, Cash Cab, Junkyard Wars, etc. Nothing kids really give a shit about. If Cartoon Network ever made their own version of Thundermans, or Lab Rats then CN Real might still be a thing today.

The way TBS is now producing a lot of new series this might still happen again today. But if they were, it might be better to not do it on CN again. Just make a new channel breakaway from TBS or something. TBKids or something similar. Boomerang really has no actual purpose at all outside of showing shit that did not premiere well on CN, rework it instead.
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>>94264526
Primarily with Viacom properties since it is clear they stopped trying around 05.

Disney not nearly as much. They have Princesses, Marvel, and Star Wars. They are fine doing what they are doing.
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>>94277656
>Star Wars

>Not Nostalgia

And most of those princesses are from the 90s, Belle, Mulan, Jasmin, Pocahontas.
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>>94271331
Kyle Did
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So I guess there's not a chance Miller could be a reverse Michael Eisner like Snyder was? 2007-2009 was the worst era for CN but, 2010-2014 was the best era for the channel what with the best greenlit decisions since Cohen was the President and you have to remember Snyder was CN President through both of those eras.

So you know, maybe starting in 2018 or 2019 we might see things go back to a positive direction while still being under Miller?
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>>94277517
No, Turner runs like Disney Television Animation & Disney Feature Animation, other then being under the same parent company they're 100% unrelated otherwise.

If Trump kills off Turner because of #CNNBlackMail then whatever thats left will be adsorbed into Warner Bros.
>>94277656
Paul Rudish is trying to demonopolize Disney by selling Marvel to Viacom and LucasArts to News Corp as well as splinting off ABC/ESPN into it's own thing like what happen with Viacom & CBS years ago.

Disney Channel, Disney Jr. & Disney XD however are another story.
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>>94277901

>Paul Rudish is trying to demonopolize Disney by selling Marvel to Viacom and LucasArts to News Corp

Why? Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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>>94277901
>Paul Rudish is trying to demonopolize Disney by selling Marvel to Viacom and LucasArts to News Corp as well as splinting off ABC/ESPN into it's own thing like what happen with Viacom & CBS years ago.
Source on that?
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>>94277901
>Paul Rudish is trying to demonopolize Disney by selling Marvel to Viacom and LucasArts to News Corp as well as splinting off ABC/ESPN into it's own thing like what happen with Viacom & CBS years ago.

Bullshit.
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>>94277965
http://www.toonzone.net/gkids-scores-home-entertainment-rights-studio-ghibli-catalog/
http://www.toonzone.net/john-lasseter-no-longer-directing-toy-story-4/
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/94182939/#q94183445

In short, John Lasseter stepped down and Paul Rudish took his place, first thing Rudish did was sell the Ghibli library and is already cutting off the fat set by Eisner & Igor.

So far selling the Ghibli library to GKids is all Rudish did but thats just the start.
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Man, I didn't know the people who hated TTGo for not being the original Teen Titans series have started veering into conspiracy theory territory now.

I bet they're going to claim that Tara Strong was a pedophile next, and that she would use roleplay as Raven to seduce young boys. If that were the case, why did she talk to me like Bubbles and tell me to pretend to Professor Utonium?
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>>94277965
>Source on that?
His ass.

Look, even if Disney was going to sell off some properties to look less like an monopoly they wouldn't sell off the huge money maker properties. You'll see Disney auctioning off the rights to The Muppets, Maker Studios, etc. way before they'd even ENTERTAIN the possibility of selling off the Marvel and Star Wars rights.
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>>94278026
>>94278047
No.

http://www.toonzone.net/gkids-scores-home-entertainment-rights-studio-ghibli-catalog/
http://www.toonzone.net/john-lasseter-no-longer-directing-toy-story-4/
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/94182939/#q94183445
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>>94266932
And they ruined it by having nothing of what made the old version great, I mean other than the IP and character names the new PPG has nothing that made the old one great.
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>>94278044
You truthfully have no idea of what you're talking about, do you? Your "sources" are nothing that has to do with anything pertaining to selling key assets to rival competitors.

If that were the case Barron's, Businesswire, Forbes and other reputable business sites would be actually reporting on the supposed selloffs and Viacom and Newscorp stock would be jumping ten+ points.

Also, if Star Wars were to be given to Murdoch, then it would go to 21st Century Fox, not Newscorp.
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>>94278117
But they are correct Marvel and LucasArts are important acquisitions and the least likely to be on the block.

Viacom can barely handle what they've got now with Star Trek looking less and less like a sure thing.

For sure ESPN selloff is very possible as that's been a sinkhole for a while as well as other mothballed acquisitions.
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>>94278117
Ghibli films aren't cash cows, sorry. I wish they were so it would be easier to get to see them for theatrical release time. Oh sure they probably do better than most anime in the US but, my god, by no means are they they cash cows that the Marvel and Star Wars properties are.

The Toy Story 4 changing directors thing isn't even relevant to this discussion.

"Fuck making money."
-Paul Rudish, apparently
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>>94278308
Fox is own by News Corp.
>>94278325
Viacom has the sponge, they're fine.

As for the rest.
>The Muppets have been set to be sold back to The Jim Henson Company.
>Disney Channel (but not Disney Jr. & Disney XD) will be part of ABC/ESPN once they split off from Disney and will be rebranded as a result.
>Disney Jr. is set to be sold off to Warner Bros as a off shoot of airing their shows on Turner networks like CN and just have Warner Bros air their own shows on their own network (this was set before #CNNBlackMail happen).
>Disney is also set on selling their live action feature unit to Warner Bros as well.
>Disney XD (alongside Disney Channel Japan) is said to be sold off to TV Tokyo so that they can expand outside of Japan and air their shows outside Japan themselves which means bigger budgets and better pay for the animators who put their anime on their network.
>As for Pixar, they're set to be adsorbed into Disney Feature Animation so they're safe.
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@94278637
>Fox is own by News Corp.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/28/entertainment/la-et-ct-news-corp-21st-century-fox-20130628

No, they're not. Murdoch split the two companies and 21st Century deals with movie/broadcasting/television networks. NewCorp deals with publishing/newspapers. The two are owned by Rupert Murdoch and family but are separate companies.

Are you just shitposting for (You)'s or something, if so, you're not getting it from me.
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>>94278906
I see, ToonZone said they were still the same company.

In that case 20th Century Fox it is then.
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>>94278637
>Fox is own by News Corp

*Fox is owned by News Corp
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>>94279958
Typo and >>94278954
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>>94278308
Considering Fox sold their rights to Disney when they got it for $4billion they are not likely to give it up so soon
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>>94280084
Thats Igor's Disney. With Rudish he is cleansing the company after what happen to Disney over the years.

All Rudish did as of now sell the Ghibli library to GKids, but thats just the start of Rudish's cleansing of the company.
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@94280164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rudish
The only thing I'm getting on this Paul Rudish guy is that he's an animator working on a Mickey Mouse TV series.

>Thats Igor's Disney. With Rudish he is cleansing the company after what happen to Disney over the years.
>Igor
Do you mean Bob Iger? That guy's still the CEO of Disney and plans on being the CEO well into 2019.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-disney-iger-contract-20170323-story.html

Where the fuck are you getting your information? Are you dumb or something?
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>>94278117
>Marvel going to Viacom, where the MCU originally started
>Star Wars going back to Newscorp, where the franchise was born
Pottery
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I remember when I got to college, cn had their DC and it had quality animation. Young Justice was fantastic and reminded me of how good teen titans was. The green lantern show was superb and gave GL some need airtime after the terrible movie. Even better were all the shorts they would air, batman of shanghai and of course my favorite, Gemworld. This could have easily filled the niche spot that star vs would later get. I understand that they were trying to market to children but nearly every major animated show has a large young adult following. It sucks that CN is dying but they need to burn so something better can take its place
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Don't fall for the bait with this Famicom/TMSfag style shitposter. They don't know what they're talking about. They shitposted about Nintendo buying out Disney a few weeks ago. They're like that dude (or dudes) who talks about TMS being the best studio ever whenever an /a/ vs. /co/ thread pops up but simply a different flavor of autist.
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>>94280367
He was and theres some hold overs left for his Mickey Shorts.

The thing is that Igor want to step down and Rudish is set to take his place, he already took over for John Lasseter and sold Disney's Ghibli library to GKids as the start of his take over.
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>>94280395
That is not from Famicom/TMSfag as he never brought up anything about "Nintendo buying out Disney a few weeks ago".
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Will Adult Swim replace Boomerang as a seperate channel?
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>>94280698
We will see.
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>>94264105
>implying the problem is nick and disnay
>implying the problem ain't the fact that kids just watch le youtube e-celebes.
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>>94282396
To be fare, James Rolfe & Doug Walker are light years better then most modern day real celebes.
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>>94274800
>Blame Trump
First post mentioning Trump
Opinion Discarded.
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>>94283637
Not a opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROc-oanMuo
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>>94283686
>a opinion
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>>94278151
If you like Jontron then you should like Magiswords.
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>>94265724
It's well within the realm of possibility to have clever, slightly more subdued kid's programming. Not everything needs be an ADD spectacle of color and lolsorandom humor.

Even the most frenetic of golden age CN programming (such as Cow and Chicken) wasn't nearly as bad as TTG.
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>>94283004
>To be fare

*To be fair
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>>94287729
Again, typo, thanks.
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>>94264105
I thought it was because the guy in charge of making the schedule is a goddamn pajeet responsible for sinking another network with the exact same cancer.
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That's retarded. Unless there is some behind-the-scenes separation of CN and Adult Swim that CN could die alone. Adult Swim is one of the most valuable brands and blocks in broadcast television.
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>>94288280
At this rate I would be fine if CN just gave up and let Adult Swim run 24/7, it would just be another Comedy Central but with more cartoons.

At least there would be variety.
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>>94275629
>Seinfeld The Animated Series never again
It worked so well for such a weird idea.
>Bugs and Co in Suburbia
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>>94290760
Wabbit =/= The Looney Tunes Show
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