I miss when we could hate nazis and not have it be interpreted

>>94194043
That is why we don't allow neo-nazis to live.

If anything all the Nazi coming out and be triggered whenever someone disrupts their safe space made all the nazi hate more fun and enjoyable

>>94194043
It was always political.

>>94194043
I wish all idealists were rounded up and executed.

If ANTIFA could just calm down and stop attacking people who they think might be a Nazi instead of actually attacking real Nazis, we wouldn't be here.

Now look what happened.

>>94194043
>I miss when we could hate nazis and not have it be interpreted as a political attack
It's meant to be a political attack. It's just that Nazis are finally showing themselves because they think they have nothing to be ashamed of.

But it is good that we finally know who the nazis are. They never left, but now at least they identify themselves in public.

>>94194110

This is what happens when you let a bunch of nuts redefine Nazism as "people who disagree with me" instead of keeping it well defined. Punching Commies was also a fun thing to do until McCarthy fucked it up.

>>94194043
Blame people who turned the meaning of the word "nazi" into "someone I don't agree with"

>>94194121
"""""""""""""""""Nazis"""""""""""""""""""""
Right.....

>>94194121

Oh you are right. They never left. But we should be careful NOT to play into their hands. Ie. Don't do what Berkeley has done. (To combat hate speech, they are willing to throw away the one thing that help the marginilised gain a voice, just so they can shut the Nazis down)

>>94194132
I generally also don't agree with nazis

>>94194162

Okay. You're a Nazi. That means I can punch you now.

Speaking of which, it's funny how Moviebob and people like him talk about wanting to punch Nazis yet reading his Twitter, you could swear that he's a fan of them.

>>94194043
It was politics, but it was politics we could all agree on as Americans.
I do miss that.

>>94194043
When Call of Duty 1942 was unveiled, there was legit threads on /v/ complaining about the fact you were killing Nazi's in a ww2 game.

That was a little difficult to chew and swallow. I mean, /v/ is terrible, but....

>>94194184
Moviebob is still alive? I thought he commited sudoku when the escapist fired him

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>>94194053
>>94194061
>>94194076
>>94194081
>>94194121
>>94194155
>>94194162
>>94194200

>implying people wont label you faggots 'Nazis' for even visiting this site

>>94194200

It's /v/. Shitposting should not be taken seriously. No buts.

>>94194155
> (To combat hate speech, they are willing to throw away the one thing that help the marginilised gain a voice, just so they can shut the Nazis down)
Lest we forget, many of the moves the Weimar government used to try to suppress Nazi support ended up being coopted and turned around when the Nazis gained control of the government. Free speech is something that we have to keep protecting, not because Nazis have valuable things to say, but because the precedent of repressing it is too dangerous.

>>94194200
People are waking up to the fact that they weren't some evil demon horde, but men fighting for their country.

>>94194234
men fighting for a nation whose sole purpose was continental domination and racial eradication

>>94194043
I don't think Cap ever punched an American and called them a Nazi for no reason.

>>94194043
I miss when Captain America was Captain America.

>94194257
Not even worth a (You).

>>94194257
>racial eradication

Fewer people buy that meme everyday.

>>94194043
easily
just make liberals stop calling anybody that disagrees with them on anything a nazi.
problem solved

>>94194258

There was a comic where he BTFO out of Neo Nazis AND ANTIFA types in a rally. It was great.

>>94194043
Actual jew here. I'm even descended from actual holocaust survivors and the whole nine yards, so you can imagine how I feel about nazis.

You know what I miss?

I miss when "nazis" meant "ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS" and not "ANYONE WHO LITERAL KEKS DISAGREE WITH".

You faggots are fucking disgusting. You are literally exploiting the deaths of millions of people to further your political agendas. That's NOT okay. If you call someone a "nazi" they sure as fuck had better be someone who killed millions of people and not just "anyone who criticizes sjws".

Fucking faggots.

>>94194053
>>94194061
Both of these posters are literally subhuman.

>>94194076
No. Not liking literal genocide is not "political".

>>94194121
Another subhuman faggot.

>>94194110
>>94194131
>>94194132
These posters get it.

>>94194155
Another subhuman faggot.

>>94194155
>>94194121
>>94194053
>>94194061
All of these posters need to go to >>>/pol/ where they belong.

This is my last post in this thread, so don't bother replying because I won't bother reading your butthurt faggotry. You faggots are LITERAL fascists, but no you're not "nazis" because that would imply that you were German socialists between the years 1933 and 1945, which you're obviously not, and ANYTHING other than that is NOT a "nazi". Stop using a word without consideration for its meaning or its history. What your doing is no different than white people using the n-word and trying to claim it's okay because of some bullshit faggot political logic. Go fuck yourselves.

>>94194287
tell me.
how many "Neo Nazi" riots have there been during the last 8 years?
no go and compare those numbers with riots started by far left groups.
why do liberals like to pretend that leftwing and rightwing violence is anywhere near on the same level?

>>94194296
nice personal blog

>>94194296
>No. Not liking literal genocide is not "political".

Yes it is. Anything can be political.
Cap punching Nazis was always just American propaganda.

>>94194296
Oy vey dis Jew has a pretty good argument. I like you, you're alright for a Rothschild

>>94194287
>I think white people have a right to exist and should stay the majority in countries that they founded to preserve their unique culture and identity = Neo Nazi
>Anybody that dares to disagree with me is a nazi and should not be allowed to voice his or her opinion. also using violence to suppress speech that I don´t like is totally justified

based Cap both are just different sides of the same coin am I right

>>94194304
You are right, right-wing violence has caused more death than left-wing violence.

>>94194334
Not while communism is still in recorded history, comrade.

>>94194304
So, Supporting neo-nazis is okay?

>>94194348
Absolutely. No political party should be outlawed.

>>94194344

And Stalin's brand was also racist and homophobic.

>>94194234
No they weren't evil, they were men.
They were also accomplishing massacres here and there in conquered territory, perpetrating a genocide, and treating people differently according to their skin color, to their origin.

They weren't cartoonishly evil but eveything they did legimates fighting them.

>>94194353
Who says outlawed?

>>94194326
>Oy vey
XD

>>94194361
That would be the only context in which it wasn't okay.

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I just want my Cap back.

>>94194353
George Washington warned against the dangers of political parties. If you like political parties you hate America. Checkmate athiests.

>>94194356
And? Every leftist progressive leader has been homophobic or racist in some way even in modern times.

Blame people like Moviebob. Because of how he defines people he hates as Nazis yet unironically says that Magneto was right.

>>94194386

Yet only the Nazis are demonised while commies are given a free pass. They shoul BOTH be given the same treatment.

>>94194334
They were talking about neo-nazi riots and attacks in the USA in the last 8 years. Right-wingers caused far more death than left-wingers in that time-lapse. 45 more deaths, to be exact.

>>94194370
This. Fuck, Hydra Cap was funny at first simply because he was so much better at it than Red Skull and despite leading an evil organization he seemed to genuinly want good things but it's gotten old and it's really fucking shallow any annoying at this point.

If you think Cap would be sick and tired of the way things are - and why wouldn't he be? - have him go on hiatus.

>>94194394
I'd say the difference is most tolerated Commies say the Soviet Union and Stalin was bad, while most modern Nazi's say hitler did nothing wrong and it's all obfuscation of the Jews. If they seperated National Socialism from Hitler and the Holocaust the same way modern communists have seperated themselves from Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, it wouldn't be such an issue.

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>>94194296
>This post
I don't get it about you, We are complaining about not allowing to punching fictional nazis. What is the agenda?

>>94194405

That depends. I've seen Commies who pretty much went the "Stalin did nothing wrong" route. They're called "Tankies"

Even then, modern commies seem to think Venezuela's the perfect example of communism done right, when that's FAR from the case.

>>94194405
Eh, talk to your average campus commie (especially the ones recruiting at their little lemonade stands) and they'll straight up give you the same rhetoric as Nazis do about Hitler and Jews, except with *communist leader* and capitalist/imperialist instead.

>>94194423
Aren't they currently in a major economic crisis and their president is suspending elections?

>>94194431
Dude, the country is basically in full anarchy mode and people are literally starving. I think I heard the the average Venezuelan lost 20 lbs this year so far alone.

>>94194431

Yup. So much for that perfect utopia.

/r/Socialism of Reddit even banned actual Venezuelans from posting there because of it.

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>>94194446
that pretty fucking shady

>>94194446
To stop them from shit-talking their own country? kek

>>94194043
"I hate Nazis"

Who's the Nazi?

"Everyone who disagrees with me"

>>94194423
Don't forget the ones who even now try to claim that Cuba is totes different from all the other communist dictatorships. They used to claim this about Mao, then when it turned out that Mao was a horrible dictator they claimed it about Pol Pot, then Hoxha, then Ceaucescu.

>>94194405
The fact is that actual stormcucks and tankies aside, the democratic Right seems to think that horrible right-wing dictatorships like the Saudis are necessary to prevent islamists or communists from taking over while the democratic Left seems to think that horrible left-wing dictatorships like the Castros are at worst misguided and most likely just maligned by evil conservatives.

>>94194296
Also Jewish here.

The Holocaust is a sham. People did get killed, but the numbers were vastly over-exaggerated, pictures were faked, and there's no evidence that Hitler actually intended to exterminate the Jews.

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>>94194394
>Yet only the Nazis are demonised while commies are given a free pass.
No they're not, you loon.

>>94194472
I think he meant in recent history anon, at least in western public/higher education and pop culture.

>>94194370
Funny thing about this picture is the fact that bigotry and intolerance can only be prevented if censorship is enforced. Pretty dang hypocritical, huh?

>>94194472

Should have added "these days". That was posted around the time America hated both of them proudly. Left hand punching Nazis, right hand punching commies.

Nowadays you have ANTIFA types giving the finger towards graves of those who died under Communist rule.

>>94194484
When you have a populace that is well educated, well fed, and prosperous, while bigotry does not vanish is certainly greatly reduces

The secret to healthier societies is healthier citizens. Who the fuck knew.

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>>94194043
I AM SO GODDAMN TIRED OF POLITICS AND "HURRR POLITICAL AGENDA /POL/ SJW FEMINIST ALT-RIGHT BOOGEYMAN MUH SIDE IS THE RIGHT ONE LOOK A LEFTIST/RIGHTER DID SOMETHING TERRIBLE THAT PROVES EVERYONE WITH THAT POLITICAL LEANING IS RETARDED" BULLSHIT, WILL WE EVER BE FREE OF THIS NIGHTMARE????

>>94194484
Censorship prevents neither, it just makes them boil under the facade of polite society. Only way to stop it is if everyone gets there's. Anger is hard to maintain if you're content.

>>94194479
>>94194494
No one cares about Communists nowadays because they're defunct and failed, and even so, the fictional Soviet HYDRA equivalent "Leviathan" was created in 2010. I'm sick of Conservitards with a victim complex gettig all indignant that Nazis are portrayed as villains, and demanding more Communist representation no one really gives a shit about.

The line from being a centrist to being a nazi is literally paper thin. Not even trolling.

>>94194524
Probably not, comics have been trapped in the political hell hole since they started delving into that shit in te 60's and 70's

>>94194484
Christ, all people need is a little civility. Who'd have thought freedom of speech would become an excuse to be an obnoxious boorish lout who spouts "nigger, faggot, cunt, etc." to random strangers.

>>94194549
>No one cares about Communists nowadays because they're defunct and failed

And Nazis aren't?

>>94194561
Skin heads exist, you obtuse nigger.

>>94194566
So do communists you retard. Entire countries of them even. Name one "skin head" country.

>Make a straight up /pol/ thread
>Slap a comic panel on it so it won't get deleted

Real subtle, guys.

>>94194556
>Who'd have thought freedom of speech would become an excuse to be an obnoxious boorish lout who spouts "nigger, faggot, cunt, etc." to random strangers
All that stuff is protected under freedom of speech. If you want to forcibly censor that stuff then you're not upholding the 1st amendment.

>>94194234
By attacking Poland unprovoked

>>94194394
What is the cold war for 200 rubles alex

>>94194596
>All that stuff is protected under freedom of speech

Fine, but that doesn't mean you should act like an autistic piece of shit with no filter. People technically have the right to literally scream at the top of their lungs incessantly, doesn't mean you're not gonna get booted out of a restaurant or public establishment for being a nuisance.

>>94194275
How is it a meme?

>>94194607
Hardly.
It began with them taking back territory they felt had been robbed from them after Versailles.

>>94194561
Titles with Nazi villains still sell though.

>>94194635
They weren't owed shit, if anything Italy deserved to riot against the Allies/Europe because they actively deceived them into joining WWI and got fucked over as a result.

>>94194635
>It began with them taking back territory they felt had been robbed from them after Versailles.
just like the mudslimes

>>94194584
I don't think communism has ever actually been properly practiced since, by its very nature as written on paper, it shouldn't involve totalitarianism or dictatorships.

>>94194471
>>94194296
neither of you are Jewish and there is plenty of evidence that Hitler planned to eliminate all Jewish presence in Europe. You can't just build a platform on "blame the jews" and then go "yeah but lets not do anything to them"

>>94194651
>They weren't owed shit

That's a matter of opinion obviously.
Germany were pretty angry about the whole Versailles thing, and invading Poland wasn't on a whim.

>>94194043
The Nazis were a political party. Any attack on them is, by definition, a political attack, you fucking moron

>>94194663
He wanted to banish them as many countries had done before.

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>person in comic punches a literal Nazi, like 100% authentic Nazi who once worked for Hitler himself or wants to re-ignite an aryan movement
>DUDE NO STOP ACTING LIKE EVERYONE IS A NAZI

>>94194676
Yeah and he tried to do that, no one would take them. So he just started killing them.

>>94194619

That's because of nukes.

>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>94194666
They got too in over their heads in WWI and got BTFO.

I recall reading somewhere that Woodrow Wilson actually urged the rest of Europe to not punish Germany so harshly after WWI because he knew a nation in dire straits would only bring more trouble/bitterness, or something like that. Imagine what a different world it'd be if they had listened.

I don't know the context of that but it kind of makes sense to call a HYDRA fascist autocratic state 'Nazis' and if it's Spencer he's probably just having fun trolling his fans and anti-fans anyway.

Nazism gets a bad rep because G*rmans are literal subhumans.
Germonkey genocide when?

>>94194677
This desu.

>>94194716
Versailles was never really treated seriously as a restriction of military doctrine, except in the Kriegsmarine. I don't think more generous terms at the end of WW1 would have prevented WW2.

>>94194724
>HYDRA fascist
not a nazi retard, don't group us with comicbook villains

>>94194296
you're on 4chan, on the board for children's comics and cartoons
you don't get to call anyone subhuman, child

>>94194730
>I don't think more generous terms at the end of WW1 would have prevented WW2.

I think it would have.
It hobbled and humiliated Germany, leaving fighting back one of their best options.

>>94194732
HYDRA =/= Nazis in technical terms but it's completely plausible in-setting that someone would call HYDRA Nazis. That's my point.

Also I don't know if you're saying "Don't group us, the real IRL Nazis, with comic book villains" but if you are fucking lol.

>>94194635
They lost the first war. Thems the breaks. That's like Palestine complaining about isreal

>>94194716
Germany wasn't punished nearly as harshly as people like to claim. Compared to the peace they forced on Russia in Brest-Litovsk just earlier that year, the Germans got a slap on the wrist.

The problem wasn't that they were treated too harshly. It's that they were neither treated harshly or treated leniently, leaving the both resentful yet still capable. Going much, much further in dismantling and occupying Germany after WW2 produced far better results, and that was an order of magnitude harsher than Versailles.

>>94194686
They only died because the Germans ran out of funding and lost the means to care for their prisoners. If America had lost WWII we would've been responsible for the Japanese Holocaust.

>>94194745
OK, well, we don't agree then. WW1 was the product of repeated and monumental fuck-ups in statesmanship at a moment of crisis. There was no security against another war in Europe till much later, and nothing to prevent a WW2. Hitler may have been unique as a person but he wasn't in terms of movement or sympathies, so even if no exactly as suffering Germany (and who's to say they wouldn't have taken the same disastrous governmental policies even if they were a bit better off? Meaning same crisis?) and even if no Hitler I think you'd have seen a second war.

>>94194763
how about just don't keep the Jews prisoners ye?

>>94194756
You can't just call no backsies and expect them to be fine with it.

>>94194763
Anon, Germany intentionally murdered millions of Jews in WW2. You've convinced yourself otherwise, that's all.

>>94194043
This. Just being a classical liberal has had me called Nazi, fascist, etc. I hate the current discourse becaus my sympathies are being pushed towards the right due to this nonsense merely to escape constant haranguement if I try to speak or sullen vaguely supportive answers I utter now as I can't be arsed to deal with it all.

>>94194763
And yet we won and were still responsible for it. We paid to rebuild that crater

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>>94194716
>extreme religious zealot who thought he was chosen by god
>still managed to separate religion from politics and generally have reasonable/sensible opinions

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>94194745
> It hobbled and humiliated Germany, leaving fighting back one of their best options.
That's not what happened. WW2 wasn't a case of Germany fighting back against the treaty of Versailles. Between the Weimar government inflating their currency to pay the reparations and then the Nazi government just flat out ignoring the treaty, Versailles was pretty much dead by 1939. On top of that, the economic crisis that led to the rise of the Nazis wasn't caused by the Treaty of Versailles either. It was the result of the great depression. By the 30s, Versailles was a talking point, used to stir up bitterness and resentment. It wasn't an actual attack on Germany that they were "fighting back" against.

>>94194777
Don't fight a war you can't win

>>94194394
This. But instead we have politicians openly praising Mao and Stalin here while simply pointing to Victorian and Edwardian figures gets you screamed at and called a Nazi.

>>94194808
Hey, at least Stalin and Mao mostly killed their own people.

>>94194440
And oh how quickly the left in the UK turned on it. Literally going one week praising it as a model to 'not real socialism's.

/pol/ get the fuck out.

>>94194808
> But instead we have politicians openly praising Mao and Stalin here
Who does this?

>>94194121
For americans, yes. Hitler and nazis are extremely popular with amerifats because they are one of the few things that are black and white in this world. And dont pretend its just liberals, conservatives used to throw the terms a lot around obama.

>>94194800
Former Germany territory was still under the control of other nations. Versailles wasn't dead, but Germany were keen to finish it off.

>>94194472
Look at the London May Day parade. this happens every year. Now imagine it was a Nazi parade.

>>94194802
Well they could obviously beat Poland so they were justified in that.

>>94194808
I think the difference is Stalin's genocide was based more around spreading communism as opposed to killing on the basis of being Jewish, homosexual, invalid, etc.

This argument is silly though as the threat of communism/the Soviet Union influenced practically everything the US did for like 50 years.

>>94194716
>Imagine what a different world it'd be if they had listened.
I imagined very well given that the USA and some country in Scandinavia were having the same racial and social eugenism bullshit the Nazis were, and intellectuals in countries who didn't were promoting it.

The USA used force sterilisation until the 60s and so was Sweden in the 50s.
The nazis took this bullshit to its logical end and gave the world to see how stupid and horrible it was.

Without WW2, as horrible as it was, nowadays people would be even more racist, and accepting of social eugenism ideas.

(What's interesting is those ideas mainly took in protestant countries, not in catholic ones.)

>>94194834
>traditional, millennia-old spring festival which trade unionists have a labour march on
>parade celebrating your actual enemies - a racist and fascist regime - in the most horrific war your country was ever involved in
Yes these two things are exactly alike.

>>94194837
They were also justified in getting their asses handed to them when america showed up. We have a history of beating the fuck out of racist shits

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>>94194296
I love you my kike brethren. Whats your favorite cartoon my dude?

>>94194826
Dianne Abbot and John McDonnell for a few.

>>94194856
Soviet Russia usually put homosexuals in asylums, it was seen as failing the state. And Stalin was absolutely responsible for anti-Jewish purges: look as Vasily Grossman (the first reporter ever to go into a death camp IIRC).

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>>94194832
Yeah, they lost some bits of territory. So? That's exactly what the Germans did to other countries when they beat them in wars. Took their territory. In the case of Brest-Litovsk, an absolutely ridiculous amount of territory. By comparison the Polish corridor was practically nothing.

>>94194808
>we have politicians openly praising Mao and Stalin

Nigger we got Americans openly saying we should be friends with Russia and that they've never done anything wrong.

>>94194043
North Americans ruin everything. What else is new.

I really really can't wait for the internet's interest in politics to die.

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>dude we didn't want to kill the Jews
>then why did you kill the Jews
>they were too expensive to keep enslaved

>>94194886
>I really really can't wait for the internet's interest in politics to die.
That will never happen. And it will especially never happen on 4chan as long as /pol/ exists. /pol/ delenda est.

>>94194859
While the marchers bear flags and banners celebrating the greatest mass murderers and destroyers of human freedom to have ever existed and are led, organised and believe in a leadership who holds these figures up as inspirational, yes, they are the same. Also the May Day parade is nothing to do with May Day as a traditional holiday instead it's based on the Soviet May Day celebrations.

>>94194867
>John McDonnell
When did they praise Stalin and Mao?

>>94194876
>So?

So they were upset about it and wanted it back.

>>94194875
Whatever mang, at least he focused mostly on killing his own citizens. No one cares if a dictator destroys their own people, it's when they muscle in on other non-shithole countries that they get worried.

>>94194905
What about the iron curtain?

>>94194896
>Hiroshimoot will never kill /pol/

Goddammit, I miss the early 00's internet, things were so innocent then.

>>94194860
You were more racist than the Nazis until they started murdering Jews and various White Europeans. The only allied power with a sefregated society and army.

>>94194826
Where the fuck have you been? The left has been sucking marxist cock for years now. Just look at 2016, the dims had an actual avowed marxist running in their primary who was actually able to seriously compete with shillary.

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>>94194296

>>94194915
It's all been downhill since Usenet desu.

>>94194903
That's not the same thing as saying
> leaving fighting back one of their best options.
They weren't fighting back. They were trying to conquer.

>>94194881
Were talking the main leaders of the opposition openly saying this. I don't support fascism at all, I think k it's abhorrent, like Communism, but if you had say Phillip Hammond saying 'Hitler managed some great societal cohesion' or Jarvis going 'Mussololini made the trains run on time's it would destroy the entire Conservative party. There is a double standard.

>>94194808
> we have politicians openly praising Mao and Stalin here
Source?

>>94194857
Catholicism has always been accepting of multiple races and ethnic groups. The objective of an universal church would otherwise be impossible to accomplish

>>94194896
/Pol/ was created to take politics away from the rest of the site. You think it's bad now, you haven't been here when /pol/ or /news/ wasn't here.

>>94194910
Who cares about smalltime like Czechoslovakia or Hungary? Stalin should've invaded the heavy hitter countries, then he'd be more memorable than Hitler.

>>94194405
>modern communists have seperated themselves from Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot,
It helps that the basic ideas behind communism weren't made by authoritarians but a respected economist. While Nazi ideology is all Hitler's ideas.

>>94194927
They still saw it as their territory, under occupation. It was very much a fight back against the territorial concessions they had been forced to make.

>>94194940
In the US the guy whose job it was to be the president's spokesman said that Hitler never used chemical weapons on his own people.

>>94194954
And yet it still doesn't work.

>>94194954
I've been here for 10 years and things were much better when neither /pol/ or /news/ were here. Both boards just became a funnel for newfag stormnigger and their ilk.

>>94194954
I was here before /pol/ or /news/. It was not this bad.

>>94194954
nigger, when /pol/ wasn't here everybody understood that nobody should care about politics here, leave that normie shit out of here. Now /pol/ is the entry point for all newfags and phoneposters. So no, it was never this bad

>>94194959
>Lebensraum
>"their territory, under occupation"
TECHNICALLY true, I guess? But it was still conquering, not reclaiming.

>>94194716
The US and Britain should have gone harder on Germany. France wanted to move their border to the Rhine river but Britain was scared of France being too strong and the US wanted to be nice to Germany so they toned down the treaty and didn't punish Germany enough.

>>94194959
> We want a slice of Prussia back.
> Let's invade all of Europe and the Soviet Union and North Africa!

>>94194940
Eh, even Churchill and FDR admired certain things Hitler accomplished. I take more issue with seeing Trumplets say Russia is trustworthy and we should be buttbuddies.

>>94194947
Not that anon but you've never seen this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA

Now imagine if this had been a Conservative front bencher saying a figure from the Fascists did some good.And this is just one in a long string of them.

>>94194043

>I miss when we could hate nazis and not have it be interpreted as a political attack

Wh...What do you think Nazis are? Fuckin Cobra or something?

>>94194993
They said those things prior to the War and before Germany allied with the USSR.

>>94194916
>were
Still are

>>94194984
>But it was still conquering, not reclaiming.

It was both.

>>94194991
Well things obviously escalated. But the point remains that they didn't invade Poland for no reason or because they we evil.

>>94194997
The problem is that everyone is a Nazi now.

>>94194499
Too bad no one gives proper education anymore.

>>94194881
Soviet Union was competition to USA and helped them push humanity forward.

>>94195017
> But the point remains that they didn't invade Poland for no reason
No one said this. Everyone recognizes that they invaded for a reason. Most people, however, recognize that their reason was conquest and genocide.

> because they we evil.
I'd call wanting to exterminate the population of Eastern Europe so that you can take the land and resettle it with Germans pretty evil. Hitler had been pretty clear about that as his goal going back to 1925, well before he even took power.

>>94195028
This. History isn't properly taught. Schoolchildren here are tight for ages about the American civil Rights movement but nothing about the formation of their country in the 17th and 18th centuries.

>>94194043
I wish Nazis were still a fringe villain caricature from the past, not a vibrant, toxic part of the electorate and a permanent part of /co/.

>>94194960
Well, devil's advocate and all, I don't think Hitler considered the jews his people.

>>94194053
This.

>>94194061
This as well.

>>94195292
Which was weird since he was one by birth

>>94195045
Are you fucking retarded or something? School curriculums here go over the foundation of the country again and again and again and barely ever hit the civil rights movement by the end of the school year.

>>94195229
they're not, you hyperbolic, irrational child.

>>94194061
The way SJWs have attempted to co-opt terms like triggered and safe space and snowflake that only apply to themselves is pathetic.

>>94195316
Wrong. Most schools in the US gloss over the early history of the country and dismiss the people involved in the founding of the US as just a bunch of white men and *gasp* slaveowners. The intense emphasis on the few important non-whites in US history leads to an absurd focus on the few time periods where they actually did anything, like the civil rights movement.

>>94195316
I'm not an American.

>>94194412

You might be. Most the thread is ranting about how builied they are by idiots on twitter and think an entire political movement is dedicated to making them feel bad.

>>94195316
In the UK I never learnt about English Radicalism, the political and constitutional development into the modern era or anything much past very basic stuff and that we did slavery. We did a shit ton on the USSR and how it was an economic powerhouse in the 1930s and he American Civil Rights movement.

>>94194043

You should stop taking your propaganda character serious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz7PDBhav5s

>>94195360
>Most schools in the US gloss over the early history of the country and dismiss the people involved in the founding of the US as just a bunch of white men and *gasp* slaveowners
Nigger, when the fuck did you go to school. You are retarded.

>>94195353
>/pol/ co-opts terms from SJWs
>others co-opt terms from /pol/
>waaah don't co-opt terms from me!!

>>94194043
That's because there is a ton of nazis around.
Kill all nazis and we can go back to status quo.

>>94195353
No need to be triggered.

>>94195531
>/pol/ co-opts terms from SJWs
>waaah don't co-opt terms from me!!
>others co-opt terms from /pol/
>waaah don't co-opt terms from me!!
>/pol/ co-opts terms from SJWs
>waaah don't co-opt terms from me!!
>others co-opt terms from /pol/
>waaah don't co-opt terms from me!!

FTFY

>>94194184
>you're a nazi
Prove it.

>>94195729
>You visit 4chan

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>>94194076

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>when you decide it's morally justifiable to punch Nazis but the Nazi party doesn't formally exist any longer so you also decide you're the arbiters who choose who is and isn't a nazi

You guys really don't see a problem here?

>>94195779
See this is why I don't take "the left calls anyone who disagrees them with a nazi!" Crowd seriously.
>>94195849
If you're not a nazi then you should be able to prove it.

>>94195891
"I'm not a Nazi".

>>94194296
Not all Nazi's killed people though. Many were just pencil pushers and logistical guys like we have in our military over here.

The basic criticism is the supporting or defending these fascists makes you an accomplice to their crimes. That is why the label gets thrown around.

Also, not a single person cares if you're a jew or not, it doesn't give you any insight into the issue at all.

>>94195891
>If you're not a nazi then you should be able to prove it.
Speaking as a filthy liberal, that sounds like some Red Scare talk, except substitute Nazi with Commie.

>>94195995
>not a single person cares if you're a jew or not, it doesn't give you any insight into the issue at all.

That's not how the progressive stack works, friend.

>>94195779
I like all of you faggots though.

>>94195729
Other people don't check for proof before they start attacking whoever they decide is a nazi.

>>94194296
>Calling people subhumans
>While identified yourself as a Jew
What are you? A Jewish Nazi?

>>94196107
If it gets to the point where people are attacking you for being a nazi then you just might be a nazi.

>>94196167
So not only have you decided that 1) it's morally justifiable to punch Nazis and 2) you're the political arbiter who decides who is and isn't a Nazi but you've also decided that 3) being attacked for being a Nazi makes it self evident you are one.

You're a fucking idiot.

>>94194857
>What's interesting is those ideas mainly took in protestant countries, not in catholic ones.
Not a huge surprise, considering eugenics was a pretty progressive idea and Catholic countries tend to socially evolve at a much slower pace. An actual example of how conservatism is necessary for pumping the breaks on a bad idea.

>>94194440
Chavez fucked everything. Basically he got rid of imports on everything and made oil the backbone of country. Then the US wanting to fuck with russia use the middle east to undercut oil. So now oils worth billions less and having put all their eggs in a basket venezuela is fucked.

>>94196229
>it's morally justifiable to punch Nazis
This is a given.
>you're the political arbiter who decides who is and isn't a Nazi
If it looks like a nazi, talks like a nazi and goosesteps like a nazi then guess what?
>being attacked for being a Nazi makes it self evident you are one
It's not that hard. I go through my whole day without someone calling me a nazi and I think that's true for most people.

>>94195891
>guilty until proven innocent

How about you go fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike, nazi.

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>>94194043
After watching The Man in the High Castle, playing the first two Call of Duty games and reading Hellboy, I became interested in Nazi Germany. When I look into it I get awestruck by their sense of design, architecture, futurism and order, as well as the more exaggerated parts like super-science, psychic powers and occultism. All while keeping in mind the horrors of the Holocaust, the slavery, torture, humiliation and slaughter committed by Adolf Hitler and many others.

It really sucks that I can't talk about it on 4chan or other websites, because people will think I'm some edgy, insecure white supremacist /pol/tard, nor can I start a thread without it being invaded by those who are. . If I mention how fascinating I find their culture, I will immediately get idiotic anons who will go all "SHADILAY, BASED REDPILLED ANON! LET US PRAY TO THE GOD EMPEROR TO VANQUISH THOSE HORRIBLE SJWS, MUSLIMS, SHITSKINS AND KEKS! PRAISE KEK! HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG, TOP MEME!" By the way, it was established multiple times that Hitler was a moron who basically sabotaged his own movement with his terrible military policies, especially when he gave orders not to be woken up one night when he stayed up for 24 hours straight (oh, poor baby). Surprise, surprise, that night happened to be the D-Day Invasion, and his generals were too afraid to wake him up. No, I'm not kidding.

Fuck this Allied Earth. Nazi Germany is such an interesting culture, perhaps the most interesting to appear in the 20th Century, and I can't talk to anyone about it enthusiastically without them thinking I'm some racist psycho or a "redpilled brother." It doesn't helped that I shave my head, too, since the genetics game fucked me hard. All this, despite me having at least three factors that would get me sent to a concentration camp (White-Hispanic from biracial parents, diagnosed autistic and bisexual with a few gay experiences from years ago with a ton of porn. Also, I voted for Jill Stein.

I want /pol/ to leave and take its half baked excuses of /co/ posting with it

>>94196288
Sounds like something a Nazi would do. Nazi.

>>94196288
>this is a given
Well actually it isn't because if you can justify violence for belonging to a particular political group you can justify it for belonging to any political group. Plus (and I know this is difficult for Americans to understand because they have a specific narrative involving WWII where they're the saviours of Europe and the Nazis are unambiguous ultimate villains they save everyone from) despite how evil the Nazis are and how horrible the Holocaust was, Russia under Stalin was GENUINELY WORSE- just barely, than Nazi Germany. So it must also be morally justifiable to punch people waving around a hammer and sickle by your own logic.

>>94196308
If you can't prove that you're not a nazi than maybe you should take a good long hard look at yourself.

>>94196317

I think it's interesting how such an incompetent retard managed to have such a gigantic effect on history. People really underestimate how dumb Hitler was.

>>94194043
Ironically, it's the liberals' fault for calling anyone and everyone they don't like a nazi.

>>94196317
If there's anything that could be said of WW2 it's that wars breed innovation. from what i remember hitler's research team was almost done with creating jets that would have changed arial combat. Good thing he was a fucking moron and he weakened his inner circle by making them fight each other.

>>94196347
Depends on who you were. I mean germans who fight in with the status quo were living it up. Everyone hitler had it out for not so much not so much.

>>94196357
Define Nazi first. I can't prove ANYONE is or isn't a Nazi if it's undefined.

>>94194043
I miss when Nazis were just a punchline and not an insult flung around like we do with autism and faggot

>>94194412
The agenda is, Americans have gone full retard.

>>94196288
>It's not that hard. I go through my whole day without someone calling me a nazi and I think that's true for most people.

You're a nazi. There goes your day.

>>94196347
>Well actually it isn't because if you can justify violence for belonging to a particular political group
The particular political group being Nazis who advocate for murder of the lesser races.
>you can justify it for belonging to any political group
No, that's a huge leap of assumption that only works if you ignore all signs of critical thinking.

>>94196431
You know what the fuck a nazi is anon.

>>94196357
How about you prove YOU'RE not a Nazi first, then maybe I'll bother engaging you for real.

>>94196470
Well apparently literally everyone who identifies as conservative is, based on what I've continuously seen in the media and at protests.

>>94194826
John "I'm bleeding, making me the victor" Trudeau all but worships Fide Castro.

In fact, when Castro finally died, Trump was the only one that called him a tyrant and a murderer, which earned him many fans in Miami but not in many other places.

>>94196485
>prove that you're not a nazi
I don't believe in the superiority if the white race or the inferiority of the other races.

>>94195353
Sounds like someone doesn't like other people talking in their echo chamber

>>94196525
>>94196485
Now it's your turn.

>>94196506
>all but worships Castro
Didn't you worship your dad growing up Anon?

>>94196539
We'll see I do believe that whites are the superior race, but I think slavs are white and reject the Japanese as "honourary Aryans".

>>94196525
>>94196539
Words are cheap. I said PROOF, Nazi.

>>94196558

I understood that reference.

>>94194234
Adorable.

I bet you think the American Civil War wasn't about slavery, either.

>>94196587
Ok, I've never killed a jew, Gypsy, Homosexual, communist, or evena Jehovah's witness. You can prove this by the fact that I'm not a murderer.

>>94196620
You're some anon on 4chan, which means it's pretty unlikely you can prove who who you actually are.

But it's just as well. I can tell you're a nazi anyway.

>>94196706
And I can tell you're a Nazi sympathizer, which I can actually prove based on your responses.

>>94196750
Haw, that's funny coming from an obvious Nazi. A projecting Nazi at that.

>>94196781
Yeah and a sieg heil to you to Johann.

>>94196781
>>94196750
You both seem like Nazis to me

>>94196833
I assume we're actually two autists larping at each other about how dumb this whole Nazi labeling trend is retarded.

At least, I hope the other guy is larping.

>>94196919
GOD DAMNIT YOU'RE ONLINE

YOU'RE ERPING

LARPING IS LIVE ACTION

>>94196919
>merely pretending
Nice try nazi, you and your buddy need to get punched

>>94196932
What would poorly emulated Nazi sex look like?

>>94194296
Armenian here. Stop marginalizing all the other genocides that happened in the last century and act like you're the only ones who have suffered. Yeah, you suffered, but so did a lot of other marginalized groups under the Naxis, just so happens to be they don't matter as much apparently. At least Hollywood and the media shove the Holocaust down our throats so we don't forget it happened to Jews, and mostly only Jews. The best we got for Armenians is System of a Down for big media awareness and the occasional "Turkey still denied Armenian Genocide" headline on the news.

Basically, I'm salty the Jews get the spotlight almost exclusively for "our people have suffered" in the US, with a few minor exceptions and depending on the flavor of the month marginalized group.

>>94197031
it's especially offensive since the Holocaust didn't happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPaKFJukDA

>>94194121
They never left, they right.

>>94194210
"Why can't I hate Jews, gays and blacks and want to genocide them in peace? You people will call me a nazi just because I proudly display flag of third reich (recolored in green)!"

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>>94197437
nice try Nazi you just outed yourself

>>94197071
*Holodomor didn't happen
FTFY.
Although I wish it did.

>>94194043
It's okay to hate nazis.

It's wrong to commit crimes disguised as political protest.

It's also wrong to label everyone you disagree with as a nazi then commit crimes against them and disguise it as political protest.

>But Captain America
Is a great hero because he doesn't hit people for political views, he hits people be because they commit crimes.

It's time to grow up.

>>94197031
How do you feel about American liberals/progressives proudly calling themselves "Young Turks"? I'm assuming likely pissed.

>>94196317
>If I mention how fascinating I find their culture, I will immediately get idiotic anons who will go all "SHADILAY, BASED REDPILLED ANON! LET US PRAY TO THE GOD EMPEROR TO VANQUISH THOSE HORRIBLE SJWS, MUSLIMS, SHITSKINS AND KEKS! PRAISE KEK! HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG, TOP MEME!"
This is the shit for me too. You can't talk about it without supporting it or opposing it: I just wanna talk about it. It's not even as crude as when it's only about Nazis - talk about anything, and people wanna know if you've got a side or not.

>>94196586
Aren't Asians superior even to whites in the only fields that matter in the modern day though?

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>>94197618
anon Nazis are easy to spot and need to be punched

and i feel like your kind of a Nazi for not knowing that

prove to me your aren't a Nazi right now before i knock your teeth out

>>94197679
You know who needs to be punched? Deb.
Go get on that.

>>94197649
Young turk is quite literally an established phrase, at least in British English.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/young_turk

>>94194053
Eh. The best way to win against the alt-right is to shame them into the darkest corners of society. Teach their children a different way and in 50 years all these assholes will be seen as just another backwards, mentally stunted, generation of old people. And then they'll die and the next generation will have a chance to change things.

I am /co/mblr and I hate the right wing idiots on this board, give me (you)s please

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>>94197762
>still trying to shame the alt-right

will you faggots ever learn, they don't care

>>94194549
The far left literally controls academia, while the right grows as a counter culture movement and the media is filled with leftist propaganda while the internet is filled with growing rightwinger propaganda.
But neither is a problem. No sir.

>>94194796
Wilson was essentially a protofascist.

>>94196586
>S*rbs
>white
>or human for that matter

>>94194206
Nope, by some act of God Screw Attack gave him a chance. EVERY video he had sounded like it was in an echo chamber and was worse quality than vlogs from 2008. This partnership did not last long. Last I checked, he was trying Patreon.

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>>94194043
reported this thread for shilling /pol/tier discussion. Fuck off back to tumblr. Pic is for you OP

>>94197816
>they don't care
Then why do they constantly bitch and moan about everything like sjws?

>>94197673
No, out of their large populations the outstanding members of their society often come over to America for the prestige of American university. As such we are often exposed to the cream of the crop that are funded by either their governments or their parents.

Let me contextualize. There are lots of Chinese exchange students in American universities. Why? Because government funding is decreasing and colleges make up for the lost cash by boosting their enrollment numbers. I have worked along side many Asian students and I find they are not "superior in education" they usually work hard and have the means to afford an advanced education. Their grades varied like other students.

Liberalism has taken over the comicbook media machine and it's not going to change so you should probably get a new hobby if that butt blasts you

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>>94196620
oh wow, good for you. I've never done any of that either. Guess I'm not a Nazi either faggot. Wew, I sure was worried there for a moment what you might think of me.

>>94197891
This thread makes me glad I'm not an Amerishit. Jesus fuck, you cunts are insufferable. I guess it's chemicals in the water.

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>>94197866
people who aren't alt-right yet are the people who are angry about sjw's, when they feel like they have no were else to turn to the alt-right sways them over to their movement. once they join they learn the agenda and after that they don't care what you call them because the movement has moved beyond that

>>94197866
because SJWs want to turn our country into a nanny state.

>>94197679
I'm not white, duh.

>>94194304
>how many "Neo Nazi" riots have there been during the last 8 years?no go and compare those numbers with riots started by far left groups.

Muh ANTIFA boogeyman.

I'm not scared of a few burning trashcans. I know you libertarian drones value objects over people.

>>94198003
And today it's the right that want to protect us from scary trans people and marijuana, while the left is unafraid of both.

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>>94198005
nice fucking try anon, but a person of color would never visit this racist site

I ought to burn down you're fucking nazi ass neighborhood

>>94198001
>people who aren't alt-right yet are the people who are angry about sjw's

SJWs are everyone to the left of Steve King according to anonymous mayboys on the internet.

>>94198001
>people who aren't alt-right yet are the people who are angry about sjw's,
This is false, people who aren't alt-right hate both sides for being extremist faggots

>>94197944
But you do think whites are superior to other races.

>>94197976
Tell me more

>>94197762
>Leftists in a nutshell when they aren't trying to start fights with people

>>94194296
>If you call someone a "nazi" they sure as fuck had better be someone who killed millions of people
Yes because every nazi did that. Holy shit.
>And you're not allowed to be called a Klan member unless you've lynched some arbitrary number of actual black people!

>>94197437
You're just instigating by this point aren't you? Why do I keep giving scum like you credit when you won't use it, is it a character flaw I can never overcome? Of course as long as you spread such nonsense, it's pointless to even try, you'd just keep going. Congratulations, ask google for a picture of a prize for being first place WROOOOOOOOONG(mutated mad human scum)

>>94194296
/pol/ is pro-nazi you flaming retard.

>>94194043
I miss when people who bragged about punching Nazis were punching actual Nazis, and not just anyone slightly more right-wing than them.

>>94197818
The far right perhaps shouldn't spout nonesense like creationism, then they would have a better chance in academia.

>>94195360
Hi, fifth-grade schoolteacher in the Midwest here. We actually do cover the formation of America in our curriculum. We didn't get to finish the American Revolution this year, but we covered the non-English colonies' interactions with the 13 you know and love, the trading triangle from Britain to Africa to the new world, the economies and geographies of each of the English colonies, the French-Indian war, and the main reasons for the Revolution.

oy vey

>>94196389
that's actually a recurring theme in history. a lot of idiots gather huge followings because their stupidity blinds them to any doubt about their actions or beliefs.

then people looking for purpose see someone with absolute conviction, and think they must be on to something or have some sort of secret knowledge.

>>94198789
a schoolteacher on 4chan? you're a pedo for simply being on this website and i will be reporting you to higher-ups in your district.

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>>94197653
It's always good to find another anon who feels the same way I do.

>>94195353
>Said the snowflake who is obviously triggered

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>>94194184
Authoritarians hate rival authoritarians. Everyone wants to be the one telling other people what to do.

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black guy who used to support trump here. is it weird that I hated nazis so mich, that when they called us trump supporters nazis I nearly went crazy thinking it might be true in late 2016? I calmed down Even I realized I simply hate nazis a lot that I panicked if I was comparable to them. also when I realised I'm a black guy with Jewish friends who support capitalism, making me not a nazi

>>94199298
Why did you support the Donald and why did you stop? Did you vote for the guy?

>>94194043
Well if the media didn't brand everyone they disagreed with a "nazi" this wouldn't have happened. They did this to themselves.

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>>94196317
>"SHADILAY, BASED REDPILLED ANON! LET US PRAY TO THE GOD EMPEROR TO VANQUISH THOSE HORRIBLE SJWS, MUSLIMS, SHITSKINS AND KEKS! PRAISE KEK! HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG, TOP MEME!"

Maybe on Reddit.

That has never happened to you in 4chan.

>>94200935
>That has never happened to you in 4chan.
How would you possibly know that?

I have never been on Reddit for more than a few seconds at a time. Could never get around the interface.

I have been on 4chan for 7 years, now, back when Chads were referred to as Alphas. When I have mentioned anything slightly right wing or said anything about Nazis being somewhat interesting, I get the /pol/ kiddies giving me all the White Genocide memes, the all non-whites are subhuman memes, the Trump memes, etc.

>>94198176
Didn't they also burn down a limo that belonged to a Muslim who ran a chauffeur business?