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>>94164415
/f/ is in mourning

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>all that early flash porn I used to jerk it to in my youth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVyggTKDcOE

>>94164735
God /f/ is such a weird board. Sad though.

>>94164415

What the fuck are Zone, minus8, and the other flash porn makers going to do?

>>94165432
only the player is dying
they can still animate in flash and use other methods for the video

>>94164415
>All of the hidden button jokes on Homestarruner are gone forever

Kids these days won't know the joy of finding the secret button

>>94165549
finding the button is gone, but the jokes now are tacked on at the end in the youtube videos

not gone, but yes, not the same

>>94164784
F

y'all know it's not going to suddenly deactivate every flash ever, right

it just won't get updates

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>>94167425
Well that's not so bad. Still, it's weird seeing an old relic of the internet discarded.

>>94164415
It's time we all post our favorite flash animations, since we rarely do it otherwise.

There She Is!!! Is still one of the cutest things ever
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181

>>94167457
>Well that's not so bad

It also means no security updates. So you'll increasingly be using Flash player at your own risk.

>We need to get rid of Flash because we have HTML5 now and it does the same thing
>HTML5 not being used for anything Flash was

Steve Jobs deserved cancer

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>>94167521
That's bad!

>>94167540
Steve Jobs deserved to be fucked to death by a horse. That fucked got off too easy.

>>94167540
youtube is html5 instead of flash now
has been for years

>>94167576
Flash video is obviously an entirely different thing to canvas animation. Don't be needlessly pedantic.

>Microsoft announces they won't make any new versions of Paint
>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DRAW SHIT DOODLES NOW
>Media Player Classic announced to not have any further updates
>HOW AM I SUPPOSED WATCH ANIME NOW
>Flash Player announced to have no further updates
>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WATCH NEWGROUNDS PORN NOW

Why is everyone so retarded recently.
Programs don't become unusable and erased from existence after devs stop pushing updates that you always ignored anyway.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when Flash DIES. I thought it'd be a staple of the internet for eternity.

>>94167595
>I never thought I'd live to see the day

Not until 2020. With the lifestyle of the average /co/ user, it wouldn't be surprising if you indeed didn't live to see that day.

>>94167595

That's why you're here and are not a tech billionaire, neither do I.
Everything gets replaced, hell, we might see a javascriptless internet in a very near future or some shit like that.

>>94164415
What's the replacement for simple vector animation? Do they kill Action script as well or bind it to something else?

>>94167585
Why are you virue signaling in favor of corporate stupidity?

y'all know this won't really happen, right?

Two years ago they announced they'd stop updating in 2016. That never happened.

This won't happen either.

>Scrolled through thread
>Not one mention of Homestar Runner

I'm ashamed of you, /co/

>>94168389
faggot
>>94165549

>>94167457
You're still one of the cutest things ever.

>>94167585
The lack of updates isn't a problem now but it could bite you in the ass in the future when whatever is the current OS you're using doesn't support them properly anymore. That being said someone is bound to come up with a replacement.

>>94167425
>Firefox
>and only users running the Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) will be able to continue using Flash through the final end-of-life at the end of 2020. In order to preserve user security, once Flash is no longer supported by Adobe security patches, no version of Firefox will load the plugin.

>Chrome
>Chrome will continue phasing out Flash over the next few years, first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. We will remove Flash completely from Chrome toward the end of 2020.

They won't support it at all by 2020. You will not be able to load flash videos. If it's not supported by Adobe it's a security risk, so they're just going to remove the plugin altogether.

>>94169276
Sure your average youtube kid wouldn't be able to play your newgrounds games or warch flash video, but as long as the website stays up, it's not like flash is going to vanish. The problem is exactly that though: web hosts might see the drastic decrease in pageviews and drop sites altogether.
So yeah, once 2020 rolls around i'm sure someone would have already made a flash centric browser, possibly with VM/sandbox features for security. It would be a good idea to start archiving flash shit though. Let this be a lesson to not rely on proprietary software as an integral framework of a significant part of internet. Of course, i'm kidding, we'll never learn

>>94164415
Did I get stuck in a timeloop? I swear to god this was already announced like a year ago.

>>94168430
How did I miss that?

>>94169076
Modern OS barely support flash anyway

So I guess that mean sites like Crunchyroll are finally gonna have to switch over to HTML5

Could Adobe potentially open-source Flash?

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>>94167585
>watching anime on MPC

Nobody does this

>>94164415
Who gives a shit, it's always going to be possible to make flash content using old versions. All this means are that there will be no new versions. Nor should there be, flash is rubbish really. But all your flash cartoons and games are safe forever, the plugin isn't going anywhere even if Macromedia don't offer it for download themselves, it'll be somewhere.

This changes nothing for anyone.

>>94169276
>no version of Firefox will load the plugin.
Oh boo hoo. Firefox is open source. When they drop flash support the successor browser Flashfox will be out THE VERY NEXT WEEK.

>>94167457
>Still, it's weird seeing an old relic of the internet discarded.

It's like Geocities dying all over again!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NdVPTQkRaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFDWP5JwSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD1NnqLflt0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrPuCnNbv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluwslGu8hE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX6fqafv3_Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NNMHxqJp6A

>>94164784
Gone like tears in the rain.

>>94170778
No way they'd do that. Adobe's greedier than a hoard of Jewish pirates. Even if it's free I doubt they'd give it out.

Flash CC (now Animate, because we truly can't have anything anymore) exports their videos in HTML5. I don't know what features they keep from Flash - embedded timelines, actionscript, etc. But at least it's something.

Hopefully there will be some kind of converter that can turn .swf files into HTML5, if that's even possible. But I doubt anyone would go through the trouble, really. No one gives a shit about Newgrounds or Flash videos anymore, not since Youtube and Steam took hold.

>>94170998
What kind of retard would voluntarely run a browser with such huge security loopholes? Flash already is constantly being exploited and has to be patched every month to close those exploits. Imagine what a giant security risk it would be once going unpatched for a couple of months.

But how will they make MLP now??!!1?

>>94171215
I feel fucking awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MajYXtoe7rM

>>94171455
You have to be fucken kidding m8. You would have to go out of your way to run a dodgy flash file, the flash player isn't a security problem when it's not running.

>>94167648
>With the lifestyle of the average /co/ user, it wouldn't be surprising if you indeed didn't live to see that day.
What do you mean? Staying home is pretty safe

>>94167457
>one of the cutest things ever
>progresses into a story about a country in which all the races unite to ban interracial marriage

>>94167585
For the same reason people don't use open-source software. People like brands and being branded.

>>94169076
That might be a while considering Windows 10 is supposed to last for a long time

>>94165432
Better learn how to use something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlEUPmsycKU
the best

>>94164415
First MS paint, now this.

What is happening this week!? What's next on the chopping block?

>>94168298
The Action Script VM has been open sourced. Flash has been renamed Adobe Animator. Only the Player is kill.

Now someone please fund https://github.com/mozilla/shumway and it'll be all good.

>>94164415
You do know that Newgrounds has MP4 players, right?

>>94171319
more like cum in the drain

>>94170883
what's the hot new player

i haven't watched anime in years

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>>94174482
VLC

>>94174584
Oh, they still do that old joke. Reminds me of when I still went to /a/.

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>>94164415
What about all the porn?

Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure someone will write a shell extension to play old flash files eventually.

Don't know why they never did that...

>>94174482
MPV is what /a/ and /g/ use

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>we've reached the point where old internet flash media is gonna have to be preserved and passed along like old vhs tapes and old tv recordings

>>94174683
>needs to be compiled
>I'm not in college anymore and bored enough to actually do this for a marginal difference

ah well by the time it's actually necessary people will have put out installers

or i could just bother to compile it then

>>94174683
>not using it
Fuck keeping up with /g/ and shit. MPC-HC is fine

>>94174887
You mean almost globally dumped and discarded by all but the most hard core zealots to be forgotten and joked about for the coming generations?
The only old media that made it has been music on vinyl.

>>94175306
As long as you have it set up properly.
The thing that mpv does better is that it's much, much less resource intensive (the end result looks the same). But that's not really much of a problem unless you have to make due with an older notebook or stuff.

>>94164735
Thanks doc

>>94174683
MPV is way too minimalist, sometimes I need the audio compressor and deinterlace controls..
VLC for me, it's better than it ever has been.

>>94174683
>Doesn't have a UI
Why not just use fucking Linux at that point. Even there video players have UIs. And they're more feature rich than MPC-HC or MPV

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>>94176550
>VLC for me

>>94176658
I mean I don't use Windows and it's the best one and wee/a/boos can suck my taint

>>94171576
4/5 accidents occur in the home.

Real talk, I was an idiot and wasted my teenage years reading books instead of playing/interacting with flash content.

What's the best interactive flash content I might have missed?

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hu hu hu hu

>>94175354
This. There's probably a lot of music that never got preserved either. Most VHS and Laserdisc stuff is just bargain bin now. I've found a ton of old niche stuff about art and music on VHS and Laserdisc that I can't find any mention of online. Once those tapes/discs rot, that stuff is gone forever.

>>94177300
100 years now I assure you people will cry about it like people cried about the library of alexandria

>>94177300
A lot of people are digitzing and uploading that stuff on MySpleen every day

>>94177215
>Born insecure motherFUCKER!

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>>94165549
>TFW they are still on the DVDs

>>94172411
I still use Fireworks.

technology hasn't improved that much since the mid-late '00s.

I honestly feel like ditching deprecated software is just a meme. I mean, Winamp still works fine.

>>94164415
End of an era, for sure.
>“Besides being a time capsule I don’t really see a reason for it to continue to exist... It seems like the internet has moved on,” he pauses, sounding overwhelmed. “And I’ve moved on too. I don’t have much interest in the site beyond it being good memories.”
>Max "YTMND" Goldberg

>>94164415
/g/tard from /g/unit here
Fuck Flash-Player. That shit is cancer

>>94174683
Gross. Vanilla MPC is the patrician's media player.

>>94177912
Yes, but now we have JavaScript, so better the cancer you know.

>sees VLC bashing in thread
Can someone explain to me what's wrong with VLC Player for watching anime, which I've been doing for years?

>>94178999
/a/ and /g/ elitist contrarian meme
I think it has something to do with the way it used to handle fansub formats and it also used to have poor hardware optimization
But they've improved the code as time's gone on so they're no longer relevant issues

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>>94178999
This is how /a/ acts like the difference between VLC and MPC-HC is.

In reality it's not much different.

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>>94177098
pls respond

How will shitty budget cartoons be produced now?

>>94179639
ToonBoom
or Adobe Animate

>>94178999
If you know emulators, it's like the difference between SNES9x and ZSNES. Yeah the difference in quality is so slight that you're rarely going to be affected, but they're both free and they're both easy to use so why would you bother with the inferior choice anyway?

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>>94169076
>use Linux
>there will always be some way to use Flash because some neckbeard that can code needs it for his porn
Actually now that I think of it, doesn't Hydrus support .swf files?

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>>94164784
>not still jerking it to flash porn

they still make it yknow

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>>94164784
>he stopped fapping to flash porn

>>94167457
>There She Is!!
I make a point of watching the series at least once a year. It gives me hope. I hope the new one is good.

>>94180558
Hey man you gonna sauce me or what?

>>94180823
Now where would one search for a "Peach" flash...? Truly a mystery.

>>94177098
>>94179589
First go to www.newgrounds.com and go through all of their stuff.
Then you can take a swing at http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/

And then realize you're too old to enjoy this shit now and missed experiencing them at the perfect age of 13.

I really should beat SimGirls since apparently it's actually finished now.

>>94182435
>remember demented cartoon movie
>show it to a mate hyping up the nostalgia
>they hadn't seen it
Watching it through their disinterested lens really hammers in just how bad (but also how good) the flash age was. I don't think there will be another like it for awhile.

>llok up forehead shave cut
>it's really odd seeing it again
>check the comments
>people five years ago were commenting that they hadn't seen it for years and it was super nostalgic
Oh God.

>>94182594
Newgrounds in particular really harkens back to a forgotten age of the internet. I remember going on it in 4th or 5th grade, which would have been 1998-2000ish. The internet was really the wild west back then, and people were still figuring out how to use it and what kind of shapes it would take. In one way or another a lot of modern internet culture derives from it, but it's morphed so much.
Thinking about the pre-social web always hits a very particular nostalgia button for me. It was such a different experience. Fuck, I'll have been on 4chan for 13 years before the year is over and even that feels like "modern internet" to me.

>>94167685
>javascriptless internet in a very near future or some shit like that.
I already use noscript. You can block 99% of everything and sites don't look/function any differently. The vast majority of javascript is literally just imbeded adware to track your habits.

>>94177435
So it will be like all the shit that vanished when what.cd went down all over again. Great.

>>94182809
Tbh the gentrification of internet was probably the worst thing that happened during 00s.

>>94183556
It was inevitable, and I think rose-tinted glasses color a lot of the old internet nostalgia. But still, there's something about those old Geocities websites with their MIDI music and obnoxious mouse cursors with glitter trails and god awful repeating backgrounds...

But on the other hand, I don't miss spending 3 hours downloading a 40 MB .rm file to watch a single episode of anime in absolute terrible quality and have no other real options.

>>94165432
Didn't Minus8 quit after admitting he got off to real kids?

I'll miss the adventures of Slutty McSlut

>>94179766
You realize Flash is proprietary, right? Using Linux won't magically get it to work.

>>94183922
I always preferred Frank's Adventure desu.

>>94169530
>Of course, i'm kidding, we'll never learn
I know, right!? There will never be something like the original HTML but with Flash-like features...

>>94170998
Because that's what always happens in situations like that...
Oh wait, forks rarely occur and when they do they're almost always quickly dropped.

>>94171436
There is such a program and its called swivel, and yes it works wonderfully.

>>94183661
>But still, there's something about those old Geocities websites with their MIDI music and obnoxious mouse cursors with glitter trails and god awful repeating backgrounds...

Might be that every site has to look Slick and Professional now, so most of the internet looks the same. Two frame animation fire gifs were hilariously shit, but the internet had more variety in appearance. More personality.

>>94171739
People don't use open source software because it's objectively shit. Read "Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2017 edition" (the direct link seems to be blocked from posting here), and realize that you could make a list like it for virtually every single large piece of OSS that's not backed by a large company (often Google).

>>94175354
>>94177300
That's because vinyl was around when the baby boomers were young, but newer media was not.

Nobody gives a flying fuck about the nostalgia of later generations, mainly because they have no money.

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>>94164415
RIP Barry Allen

>>94184280
>(the direct link seems to be blocked from posting here)
just remove the fucking dots newfag

>>94184433
I'm too lazy to do that. Plus it looks weird.

IT WAS ME, BARRY

>>94184463
>i have jack shit but ill say i have something
I don't get why you people do this.

>>94184551
I don't understand what you mean.

>>94164415
>MS paint is dying
>flash player is dying
i hate this timeline.

Flash has been fucking horrible and insanely unoptimized and shitty for over 6 years at this point, not a great loss.

>>94184336
Nah that's not true. I liked vinyl before the boom in interest just recently and I am not a boomer. Vinyl just have the added bonus of both being a cool medium for music storage with years of history AND audio quality that keeps up with modern technology. This is why cassettes are dead, they sound like shit.

>>94185094
Vinyl audio quality is literally not comparable to digital, there's a qualitative gap there that cannot be bridged. And it's not in vinyl's favor. (I can certainly agree on the "cool medium for music storage with years of history" part, though.)

And again, cassettes are dead because they're primarily associated with the 90s, and a generation whose nostalgia is simply not mainstream.

>>94178999
Boards like /v/ love vlc, so it's reason enough to hate it.

>>94178999
VLC does a great job handling all fucking sorts of different obscure formats out the box, but it's also got horrible playback quality.

>>94182435
>I really should beat SimGirls since apparently it's actually finished now.
Fuckin hell, I remember getting in trouble for playing that game when I was ten, I remember checking their site for years to see when a new version would come out. I'm probably not even going to enjoy it with how demented my fetishes have become

>>94185362
>but it's also got horrible playback quality
Mind explaining what you mean, preferably with a source or three?

>>94185417
From what I gathered whenever I last checked, the final version is changed a lot from the beta stuff. Never bothered to actually play the final, but I'm kind of curious.

>>94164415

It has already been dead since late 2010. This won't kill it anymore than it already is. It will still exist without flash.

>>94165549
this

if you weren't alive for it, you JUST WOULDN'T UNDERFUCKINGSTAND!

>>94185362
So, what should I use to watch my HDCP, then? I'd like to get JM in as much quality as I can.

>>94185458
I'm going through it now, and yea, there's some stuff fleshed out. I mostly remember the flat colored drawings being a lot more impressive to my 12 year old self

Apparently they're also a spiritual successor that they're working on

R.I.P. In Piece.

>>94177073
What is the accident/hour rate at home though?

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R I P

>>94169076
>imblying my OS won't be even more outdated than any of these applications
call me when /g/ unpozzes win10

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>>94184153
Yeah maintained Firefox forks literally never happen. Come off your dumb horse m8.

>>94171215

>looking at Newgrounds shorts on Youtube

I've done it before, but it still feels weird.

>>94179443
>MPC
R.I.P

>>94178999
it used to be because vlc, being a literal streaming software, was not super good at maintaining frame-by-frame quality

i have no idea about today

>>94164787
/f/ is timeless
Even all these years later I can still go there on almost any given day and find some variation of lolicatgirls

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>>94178999

>>94184169
>and its called swivel

*and it's called swivel

>>94178999
Still not fully compatible with SVP so you are stuck watching your anime at silky smooth 24 fps.

>>94179758
I see. That is a helpful analogy, thank you. I'll have to try MPC, it's been a few years since I last used it over VLC.

>>94184425
Underrated joke is underrated.

>>94183972
I don't see how that has anything to do with my argument