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I've never read a Flash comic. Could someone explain to me how the Flash's enemies seriously challenge him? I get Reverse Flash or whatever, I'm talking about Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Prankster, and especially Captain Boomerang.
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>>94109259
They're roleplaying.
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>>94109259
>implying anyone can predict the flight path of a boomerang
>implying you can run on ice
>implying you can run while looking at yourself In the mirror
>implying you can survive the embarrassment of being pranked
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>>94109259
The Flash is a moron. I'm pretty sure that's actually canon. Also, in the one time where Reverse-Flash didn't HAVE to keep him alive, he basically just kicked the shit out of him and was about to kill him before someone else intervened. Because Reverse-Flash is less of a moron and has some idea how to use his powers.
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Ideally when something like this piques your interest you read the story to see how.

Flash vol 2 #19 gives some good insight on the Rogues if you want just one issue to do it though.
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>>94109344
Come on! That's just silly. He can break the time barrier. He has something called an infinite mass punch. This is why DC is stupid. They are all gods then get fucked by normal people with no real powers.
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>>94109489
Are you dumb? Coldess slows down molecules, thus neutering the Flash by slowing down speed itself
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>>94109259
First off ignore the CW Show, its shit and Barry is an idiot. To answer your question, each Rogue is packing heavy duty technology
>Captain Cold's cold gun reaches temperatures of absolute zero, stopping atoms cold. His cold field that surrounds him slows down the Flash just enough to take shots at him
>Heatwaves gun is pretty much the exact opposite of Cold's, combine that with a pyromaniac creating a hostile environment where Barry can barely get near him or breathe
>Mirror Master can hop through any reflection, create mirror clones, and fire light projectiles thus making MM near impossible to predict/catch
>Weather Wizard is a literal force of nature
Boomerang on the other hand is iffy.
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>>94109259
As far as I can tell, The Flash is a fucking idiot. That's it. That's my only explanation.
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>>94109259
>>94109489
Generally speaking (except when writers are really retarded) his perception of the world around him is dependent on how fast he's going.

In physics, the faster something goes the slower it experiences time. Flash is like that. It's why people can sneak up on him, he can get punched by people that aren't fast.

The issue is when idiotic writers make it so that he DOES experience everything in slow motion.
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>>94109259
A big part of it is that the Rogues are better at working together than most supervillain groups

Captain Cold's cold field can slow the Flash down
Mirror Master has his mirror dimension, he can travel through potentially any reflective surface. That's tougher to catch than most teleporters. And then there's his realistic solid light holograms which he can have fight for him and impersonate the other Rogues to keep Flash distracted.

They've tried giving Captain Boomerang different powers over the years. His son was a speedster. He had Black Lantern construct boomerangs for a little bit during Brightest Day
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>>94109259
Pranksters?
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The Rogues aren't really a threat. Most of Flash's rogue gallery isn't really a threat to him. With exception of Eobard Thawne & Gorilla Grodd.

Flash is pretty chummy with the Rogues. He often lets them go after foiling their robbery attempts. That's because Flash is a nice guy. In return they don't go around harming innocent people.

Central City is a lot less crime ridden than Gotham & even Metropolis. This is because Flash is there & he'll stop you way faster & easier than Superman or Batman.
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>>94109599
Boomerang is his own special brand of bullshit
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>>94109259
at least in the older comics its the bad guy doing something and flash stopping them
instead of bad guy fighting flash (for reasons)
they were very plot heavy (like older superman comics) instead of the Marvel Formula where characters fight each other
The rogues expressly don't go after the Flash. They just want to get rich not kill the guy (this is probably not very consistent though)
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>>94110745
How is Gorilla Grodd a threat?
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>>94110788
Holy shit this is amazing. Like some troll physics shit.
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>>94110891
psychic
genius
super strong
also a gorilla
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>>94110891
you know he has mind control right?
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>>94109330
Underated post.
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>>94109489
Cold Field slows Flash to crawl no matter how fast he runs.
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>>94112493
How does Cold's absolute zero field stop people from doing things like dropping rocks on his head? Or frankly just shooting him?
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>>94113125
Why would the rock or the bullet not also slow down? What?
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>>94109259
The rouges are all about baiting and trapping him, they don't face him head on.
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>>94113154
Apparently absolute zero temperatures don't effect mass but I'm no scientist, in any case if his field is negating gravity he shouldn't be able to stay on the ground.
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>>94110745
>The Rogues arent really a threat
Thats only half right. The Rogues are a well functioning team with weapons/strategies capable of fighting one of the planet's top metahumans on a regular basis. The only reason they don't kill unless provoked is because they're smart enough to avoid that kind of heat from the police and the Justice League. One time they accidentally killed Kid Flash and were worried about the consequences they would get from the league. All they want is to earn a buck
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>>94109567
wtf it's not like captain cold has access to anything that cold to overpower the sheer kinetic energy Barry possesses, at best captain cold would only get punched a couple milliseconds later
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>>94113476
Absolute zero means nothing moves, literally no movement everything is stuck in place
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You already answered how to fix your problem with your first sentence.

>>94109489
Oh you're a Mouseketeer.
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>>94113686
Have you ever read Flash? Cold's gun is fucking bullshit science "cold engine" able to stop atoms dead. Not much against Barry, but just enough to be able to shoot at him.
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>>94109489
You're even dumber for thinking everyone's an unbeatable God at all times.
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WHOEVER TOLD ME TO READ FLASH 105 YESTERDAY I CANT FIND THAT SHIT ANYWHERE

WHERE DOES /co/ DL OLD COMICS?!?!
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>>94113125
>>94113686
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>>94113962
Congrats on not knowing 10th grade science, fag-ass.
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>you don't get it, he has a cold field, it slows down anything; even stuff with an infinite amount of kinetic energy
assuming that is even plausible, the cold gun would run out of energy sometime, he could just prevent Cold from going literally anywhere. This also doesn't even touch Flash's other villains
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why do people delete their posts? it's the online equivalent of ragequitting
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>>94109259
Generally, whatever plan they started usually was put in motion well before they let Flash know what was happening.
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>>94114080
My had a typo but I am ragequitting.
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>>94113962
Temperature is literally just movement. Absolute Zero is specifically named for when there is no movement.

>>94114063
The whole point is not that the cold field slows down anything, it's that it stops anything, but the Speed Force is such bullshit that it only slows Flash down instead of stops him.
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>>94114140
oh okay lol. i get if its an OCD thing
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>>94114141
what im saying is that assuming cold has some sort of field that stops even the flash, why doesn't the flash just stop Cold from leaving? Stack a bunch of cars in a circle. Dig a giant fucking moat. Just wait outside of his circle.

I mean clearly Cold is no match, because Flash still foils all of his plans
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>>94114214
You're not understanding the teamwork aspect. Nothing you've said would stop someone like Mirror Master from rescuing him
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>>94114214
Exactly. Flash uses his speed creatively with Cold. Cold puts up a bit more of a fight before that though.
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>>94113887
You can read it online here. http://readcomiconline.to/

>>94114063
Speaking in all seriousness as a Flash fan, sometimes you have to handwave the physics of the Flashverse because they like to fuck physics for fun. People noticed this even back in the Silver Age.
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>>94113686
He actually does. Cold's gun can actually cause anything it hits to reach temperatures as low as absolute zero. Including the air around him. He has an ability he's only used maybe once or twice called the absolute zero field which is exactly what it sounds like, a field of cold around him that causes things that get inside to slow rapidly until they hit absolute zero, stopping all movement even down to the molecular level. That's basically how he is able to fight the flash, by literally stopping his molecules.
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>>94113476
It wouldn't affect mass. But it would affect motion and acceleration. Even if he wasn't able to get to absolute zero to completely stop a bullet or rock, his cold field would still severely slow it down.
That would kill most of the force behind it meaning it wouldn't do any damage.

You also have to consider the freezing temperatures means he could just shatter any projectiles that are lobbed at him
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>>94109259 (OP)
>I've never read a Flash comic

>>94113686
>wtf it's not like captain cold has access to...

Why type this?
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>>94113717
>Absolute zero means nothing moves, literally no movement everything is stuck in place

so throw him in a vacuum and he's fucked at least two ways
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>>94114305
>http://readcomiconline.to/
awesome thank you sir
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>>94113686
>>94114327
This right here
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>>94113476
>>94113717
>absolute zero
You cannot cool matter that far.
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>>94114494
You didn't answer my question.
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>you morons, Flash can beat anyone! Look at this screencap that mentions picoseconds
>why do people think Flash is invincible!?
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>>94114494
It's a comic book.

I'm sure that absolute zero is, like, the *least* bullshit of all the physics abuses in it.
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>>94109259
Neither Trickster (not Prankster) has been a threat to the Flash, and neither has ever tried to be. James was a goofball who liked to mess with the Flash and challenge him, and Axel's really just a punk kid who annoys and distracts him.

People have already gone into Captain Cold and his cold field in great detail.

Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, and the Top are extremely powerful and are genuine threats.

Captain Boomerang isn't a huge threat, but he's smart, runs interference, and in some iterations has had meta powered boomerangs.
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>>94109259
Can a Flashfag tell me why the color effects are blue instead of yellow in the JL trailer? Do different Flashes have different colored lightening? Not shit posting, Generally curious and did not want to make an entire thread for it.
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>>94116444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LTmm94RND8
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>>94116543
Boomer is only deadly because he's a total goof and a right cunt. You underestimate him long enough to forget he's a remorseless asshole who's really, really good at throwing sharp objects
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>>94116578
Well actually they do, its an indication of how strong their connection is to the Speed Force. As for the DCEU Flash, its just a poor cosmetic choice. Yellow lightning looks better because it compliments the red costume and provides more of a energetic effect to the character design
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Reminder that Top is extremely underrated. Guy was crazy powerful. Resisted Zatanna's magic and Pied Piper's music. Plus, the guy is literally a fucking ghost.
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>>94117155
Plus he has super-speed and psi powers.
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>>94117698
Top is a fucking God. DC fucked up killing him. Fucked up again when they made Turbine and the DCYou version.
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>>94118531
No disagreement here! Old school Roscoe is my all-time favourite.

I actually kind of liked the DCYou version because he was ridiculously adorable, but he sure as hell wasn't Roscoe Dillon.
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>>94119478
I really do hate how he's been written out of history worse than even Captain Boomerang was.

Like Golden Glider, she got a origin more in line with her bronze age self, but without Roscoe. Her origin used to rely entirely on Top. Now? He's gone. Never even existed to our knowledge. Just like James Jesse.
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>>94119593
You're singing my tune, friend. At least Digger's been re-inserted back into Rogues' history. I'm holding out slight hope that Williamson will put him back in because there've been a couple of easter eggs in the Flash Museum in recent issues...but in all honesty I've been stupidly optimistic so far so maybe I'm just holding on to a pipe dream. We'll see. I do think however that the Top/Golden Glider relationship is gone forever though. Which really makes me sad.
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>>94116830
I thought that it was the speed blur of the yellow on his costume.
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>>94110788
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!
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>>94110788
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>>94110745
Most banks are insured. why doesn't flash just let them rob it and be done with it?
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>>94110910
>>94110937
As far as non-Reverse-Flash villains go, Grodd is legitimately threatening. He may seem cheesy from the super-gorilla from a city of super-gorillas standpoint, but he's an immoral telepath with super strength and advanced tech on his side.
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>>94110788
And Flash didn't dodge that?
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>>94114494
You can't; geniuses of today can't; but Leonard Snart can because...

HE'S A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!

Kind of like how if one gets struck by lightning that can't destroy universes with their feet, but the Flash can.
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>>94122074
How can you dodge something without understanding the trajectory?
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they've all entered into a gentleman's agreement where they don't kill people and stick to silly bank heists and he pretends to be threatened by shit like trick boomerangs
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>>94116616
Jeez, Snart looks more like Megaman there.
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