Is Superman the modern day Hawkman in terms of conflicting and

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>>93970099
if they made him an Egyptian pharoah as well as an alien maybe

Supes still has a LONG way to go before reaching Hawkman levels of confusing

>>93970099
Kinda. I mean the point of the Rebirth stuff was to say "Okay this is how it is now" but it's still kind of confusing as to exactly what it is.

>>93970099
With all the reboots and retcons, pretty much every DC character is now at the level of Hawkman

>>93970161
They literally laid it out for you retards. Superman has Secret Origins as his origin except his parents die on his prom night. He then has Post-Crisis history up until Jon is born. When Jon is born he and Lois live off the grid raising Jon until they come back.

>>93970099
No because he actually has an origin that's easy to grasp. His chronology is fucked but then so is modern day Batman's. How the fuck did Bruce squeeze 4-5 Robins into 10 or less years? How did Kyle get his ring? How did Blackest Night happen?

>>93970270
that's because they never do a proper reboot

it's always a semi-reboot which is more confusing than not rebooting at all

>>93970161
It isn't that confusing when you remember Manhattan stole eight years from the timeline.

>>93970099
>Superman Rebirth did a real mess to it.

Really? You find Rebirth confusing?

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>>93970310
Yeah. Most 2005 to up comics never happened.

Jurgens also said some nu52 villians still exist, like Morrison Zod and Nu52 luthor. Rest is pre flashpoint.


Supergirl, Kon el don't exist but every other cast member and other supernan legacies do.

I don't get everyone's problem with Hawkman. Egyptian prince with an anti-gravity belt made from alien metal who is reincarnated every time he dies. There.

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>>93970423
More what exists.

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>>93970458
Superms fling with wonder woman never existed. idenitity never leaked.

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>>93970310
everything except GL and Batman was rebooted because Johns and Morrison were in the middle of their run

>>93970575
So cyborg superman is no longer Kara's dad?

>>93970725
There are two Cyborg Supermans, one is still Kara's dad, the other one is Henshaw

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>>93970725
There's two. Like Two Maximas.

>>93970749
why is this shit still allowed?
what is an editor's function even

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>>93970749
So I guess there's two Steels as well, both coincidentally unrelated?

This is dumb. Comics are dumb.

>>93970887
You're dumb.

>>93970271
That's retarded.

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>>93970887
No stupid. Old steel overridden nu52.

Causal are dumbs

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supper god bitch is a sham of a story line.
life an incested family tree.
hate supper man.

>>93970099
Maybe if you're retarded.
It's really not hard to follow and understand.

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>>93970926
Jon being born. Look at this this way, most nu52 comics didn't happen but the costumes and villians fights did.

>>93970862
It's nice that the Pre-Flashpoint costume is canon again.

>>93970926
Unfortunate. Nusteel was cooler.

>>93970271
Explain how Lana got her powers, met a Lois that also got powers but eventually died and started haunting Lana. Or Lex's reason for becoming Superman in honor of his bro Superman after his death.

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>>93970984

>>93971091
yeah, last issue basically runs down the current continuity for Superman

>>93971065
Story yet to be told.

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>>93970864
Because Cyborg Superman is a name that can be used for different characters, like how we have straight Maxima and lesbian Maxima now.
I bet they will probably bring back Louise as Killer Frost and let Caitlin be just Frost

>>93970887
John Henry is still slipping Lana the D, so I guess there are still one male Steel. Natasha is active though, so there is that

>This is dumb. Comics are dumb
Well, yes, that's why it's fun nigga

>>93970133

Isn't the latest retcon from Metal that Hawkman and Hawkgirl havr actually been reincarnating as long as humanity has been around, and had their pre-Egyptian incarnations memories stolen?

>>93971102
Plus Jurgens said pre crisis stuff happen too. It's the ultimate superman.

>>93971188
are you asking us or telling us?

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>>93971246

..I don't even know anymore

>>93971188
No. It's the Egyptians hawks from earth 2 coming back to life. But they wore the Kuberts costume since day one. They also the nu52 hawks

Only one set being reborn. Carter is katar now.

>>93970925
So are you. Learn to accept that comics don't make sense.

>>93971065
Lex became Superman to honor his sister not Superman. You clearly don't read the things you bitch about.

>>93971243
I want Lex to become a space pirate and Superman tracking him down to happen again.

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>>93971437
Lex started Lexcorp in order of his sister. He became Superman to honor his dead best friend.

>>93971475
No, it's now Lex became supes because of apocalypse myth. Darksied thrones stuff.

And was pre rebirth.

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>>93970099
The New 52 in general convoluted a fuck ton of things.

They should have 100% wiped the slate clean, but Geoff Johns whined like a bitch and they didn't want to fuck with the cash-cow that was Grant Morrison, so here we are.

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>>93971457
Everything mostly exists.

>>93971550
Even if they rebooted completely we'd still be in a similar situation. The movie synergy would carry them only so long before writers would start getting sick of it.

>>93971550
>>93971734

They rebooted for sales. Plus Didio wanted to take out the trash.

Pre flashpoint DC is the lowest selling Modern DC ever.

>>93971815

Yeah they didn't need a half assed reboot to fix it. Especially as they had literally just got their continuity to a coherent place post all the fucking Crises. Then they just threw it out of the window for a shit show from 90s has-beens & rejects. Thank fuck Johns managed to fix things yet again with Rebirth.

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>>93970133
Still not as complicated as Donna Troy.

>>93972256
>>93972296
Nope.


Reboot equal sales. Pre flashpoint was a ugly mess.

>>93970887
Cape comics are dumb, yes. That's what happens when you have a bloated and inconsistent decades old continuity that's constantly being rebooted and contradicted.

It's not that complicated beyond just saying that both New 52 Superman and Pre New 52 Superman were alt timeline versions of each other who when both present in the same universe had to inevitably fuse to avoid a paradox.

there's a reason I decided the least confusing path to take is to treat it as if DC hadn't published anything between Flashpoint's end and Rebirth happening, minus a couple exceptions

>>93973792
I mean see this makes more sense when you stop viewing time as linear

Pre new 52 Superman is Superman from point X in time who was taken to a pocket dimension and avoided the reboot waves

New 52 Superman is the same Superman from point X-5 minutes in time when his universe got rewritten by the reboot.

>>93970435
He's also an alien space cop.

What is different about Rebirth compared to n52?

>>93970271
>They literally laid it out for you retards. Superman has Secret Origins as his origin except his parents die on his prom night. He then has Post-Crisis history up until Jon is born. When Jon is born he and Lois live off the grid raising Jon until they come back.

So a weird fusion of his New52 childhood and his Post-Crisis adulthood

Well alright

>>93970887

No, Cyzor-El is a Brainiac-construct. Hank Henshaw is his own thing, but also a Cyborg Superman.

One is the monster responsible for Coast City. The other is the tragic villain who was actually kind of a cunt in life.

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>>93970133
All that shit was dropped by johns, to get even more streamlined for new 52. Just a alien cop.


New one is Egyptian man gets reborn with nth metal alien thanagar science, was many people. Then jsa hawkman dies becomes 52 Katar then dies again.

>>93974374
Basically this

>>93974374
>>93974554


His childhood shown is Geoffs with no parents.

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>>93971065
After flashpoint superman got split into two people - sort of like superman red and blue but without the colors-
so there was superbro and superdad....
(lois also got split)
When superbro died that half of the powers went to one half of lois and lana....
.....
Later the split part of superman returns to superdad..

>>93974634

"Parents died after prom" implies his parents were still murdered by Satan though, like his Morrison Nu52 childhood