Times you disagreed with them or times South Park didn't

>>93951047
>obesity is a more pressing issue than cigarette smokers but people lobby hard against smokers in the name of health while ignoring something that kills more people which is caused by their own 'freedom of choice'.
It was pretty obvious

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>>93951047
>Dump on Mexico repeatedly
>This episode comes along
>Never dump on Mexico again

I was just confused more than anything. Hard to believe this episode and the Goobacks one were the same show.

>>93951089
Yet they tried to show cigars in a positive light because "poor people can't pay for shit so they need smoke to feel better" , honestly that shit feelt more like they we're just trying to be contrarian and edgy and not making an actual point.

What was Tweek x Craig trying to say?
All I got from it was "You guys wanted more gay characters so here you go"

>>93951089
That would've been fine if they didn't try to show the Tobacco Company as decent businessmen who have been upholding a long time recreational activity.

>>93951047
The AA episode. They really didn't do a lot of research and basically saying that the organization is useless. You can shit on saying that it's a disease, but most people identify addiction as a disease. It felt like they just wanted to shit on an organization with a spiritual focus because they see their methods as backwards.

>>93951419
AA has the same success rate as people who get off alcohol themselves. They are useless.

>>93951419
AA is useless.

t. someone who's uncle was in AA and he kept drinking himself into a coma every other night.

>>93951190
>That episode when Kenny is run over by a bus all the way to Mexico and he calls the kids because he thinks he is in hell
South Park used to be so funny, they lost their edge

>>93951333
It was their reaction to the Yaoi fandom behind their show. They basically had the same reaction as the boys "I don't get it"

>>93951047
Kill yourself fat ass

>>93951047
>Thinks South Park is expressing an opinion
>Thinks South Park is making a point
This is exactly how South Park triggers people. You're no different than those late '90s PC mothers rioting when South Park first came out.

South Park shits on everyone and everything. Not because it's their opinions, but because of the lulz. You retards should know that by now. But then, ½chan has became so shitty in the past few years.

>>93951419
AA is useless.

>>93951532
>South Park shits on everyone and everything
That was true like 15 years ago.

>>93951549
Because by now, they've already shit on everything. There's hardly anything to shit on except new events.

>>93951532
>>Thinks South Park is making a point

South Park has always made a point to tell its audience not to give a shit about everything because everything sucks, until last season when it told its viewers to vote against Trump, but they didn't because they've been thought not to care about anything.

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>>93951532
>South Park shits on everyone and everything.
Except Obama, you can't find one single time they ever made a critic against anything about him.

>>93951625
The debt/margaritaville ep where he takes credit for fixing the economy single handedly?

>>93951089
"obesity kills more people than smoking" is a layman's way of looking at the issues

obesity causes heart disease: there's a strong causal link and it's been proven - you get fat, you get heart disease

smoking causes heart disease - same deal, proven

unless you're a fucking cretin then these are the facts

now, if someone smokes and is obese, they get a "double dose" - worse heart disease than someone slim (but not underweight) who smokes, worse heart disease than a fatty who breathes clean air, much worse than the heart disease that we all, inevitably, develop as we grow older and our bodies become less efficient through normal ageing

how do you clarify cause of morbidity? cause of death only records heart disease - and if it didn't kill you, it's simply recorded in other statistics as something found at autopsy (assuming you live in a real country where basic autopsy by a qualified medical professional is mandatory - doesn't have to be invasive, just has to be someone who knows what they're talking about examining your dead ass)

if you smoked, they might find signs of that; they'd spot if you were overweight or obese (much harder to miss), but if heart disease killed you, then that's what's recorded

saying "obesity is worse than smoking" is a non-runner; obesity is accessible to all (in developed countries, via cheap high-carb, high-sodium foods) whereas smoking is heavily taxed (usually to pay for social problems like strain on hospitals caused by smokers) and tobacco more expensive by an order of magnitude, even prior to tax, than any essential food group

naturally then you get more childhood obesity than child smokers; and so on and so forth, it adds up

but saying "there are more" doesn't make it wrong to shit on smokers - you can't get passive obesity if you're at all aware of your diet, for example - and just because there are two massive health problems, one which dwarfs the other, doesn't mean you focus all your resources on one of them

>>93951599
>until last season when it told its viewers to vote against Trump, but they didn't because they've been thought not to care about anything.
Trump supporter spotted.

The Hillary supporters are just as whiny about the last season. The only reason it shifted to Trump focus is because Trump won the election, rendering Hillary completely irrelevant.

>>93951625
>Dat episode that aired right after Obama got elected
Okay, sure.

>>93951644
That's not a criticism against him but the media, nice try

Go ahead, try again.

>>93951506
I think they became a victim of what people perceive them to be. When it was revealed South Park only takes a week to make and that's how they were able to get away with making references to extremely recent events, they started snowballing into being ONLY references about recent events.

Yeah before that, they still had episodes with soapbox morals like Conjoined Fetus Lady or the racist flag episode (I can't remember the name), but they were far and few in-between the surreal parody shit or naive kids in adult situations episodes.

I realize that trying to play out the kids as being naive for 20+ years would've gotten tiring as well, especially with all the shit they've been exposed to over the years, a plot where they don't know what a tampon is doesn't really work anymore, but you know. Maybe that's why a show shouldn't go on for twenty years to begin with.

>>93951625

Well he's so...boring. You could make fun of his politics/policies, but what about his actual personality is funny/ripe for making fun of?

Idk it feels like trying to make fun of a bowl of oatmeal.

>>93951691
>You could make fun of his politics/policies, but what about his actual personality is funny/ripe for making fun of?
Boondocks was able to do it.

>>93951451
>>93951477

well, yeah, AA is a support group not a cure

you have to want to stop drinking no matter what route you choose, doesn't mean some people don't need the support group option

>>93951419
if the argument that it's not a disease ever gets brought up around you again, just casually drop the words "so you're saying it's a syndrome?"

if they don't know the difference tell them to stop waving their cunt flaps in your face, because jesus fuck some people shouldn't talk

>>93951333
It was making fun of shippers more than anything, although admitting that and saying it wasn't a romance played completely straight tends to stir shit up with people.

Basically their shippers (the town) latch onto these characters and push them into a relationship created out of whole cloth. They try to pull away from it, and hilarity ensues. They eventually acquiesce to appease the entire town, who is far more invested in their "relationship" than they are. It ends with both characters becoming reverse closeted, complete with a reverse beard.

Not super deep or complicated or political, really. Just a simple lampoon of a common practice among many fanbases, and a subversion of shows having a 'character comes out' episode.

>>93951660
>Dat episode that aired right after Obama got elected
How they shit on Obama in any way in this episode?They actually made fun of people thinking Obama was going to ruin everything.

Did the previous season have a message?

It was the biggest clusterfuck of the series to date.

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>Catholics don't believe in evolution since all Christians are the same

>>93951578
No, we mean that the South Park creators DON'T shit on everything anymore. They only go after things that they personally care about. Which I do think is a good thing, because it means the themes are always more relatable than stuff like the "Kids watch a Pokemon ripoff that teaches them totally wrong morals, then act on them" episode, but it does mean that you really can say the episodes are based on at least partially the creators' opinions.

>>93951532
As the old catchphrase goes: 4chan was never good.

>>93951402
I thought that part of the episode was just them being ridiculous to be funny? like a, "wouldn't it be funny if they were all just a bunch of nice decent group of guys?"

>>93951705

Pretty good point. Then again, Aaron McGruder could take a shit and have it be about x10 as funny/intelligent as anything Matt Smith or Trey Parker have ever done.

>>93951691
>You could make fun of his politics/policies
And they never made it.

>>93951680
Actually I think shows should be allowed to go on vacations
A good two year vacation would have done wonders for South Park, just think of adult swim, Rick and Morty season three has been delayed for over a year now I think and a couple months ago people where dying to see it just because they aired one episode and a bunch of promos
It's basic psychology if people want more you give them less and then they really want more

>>93951758
The Willy Wonka portion, yeah. But the initial tour where the guy is telling them about the history of tobacco and how they added mandatory warnings to give people the knowledge and choice about the consequences of cigarettes while the boys respond with stuff like, "Sounds very reasonable" felt like a severely misguided soapbox.

>>93951532
>South Park shits on everyone and everything. Not because it's their opinions, but because of the lulz. You retards should know that by now.
Are you really retarded enough to believe that kike park really shit on everything?Holy shit.

>>93951869
How edgy are you?

>>93951724
Something about how a lot of the current generation is riding two trends: SJWs and nostalgia.

>>93951729
Hardly any Catholics even understand Catholicism, nobody outside it even begins to bother

>>93951599
>South Park has always made a point to tell its audience not to give a shit about everything because everything sucks

That... no, that's definitely not South Park. South Park is more about how you SHOULD give more shits than you actually do, but only about the actual stupid stuff. "It's preachy" is a real complaint about it... and a complaint you yourself used when you talked about Trump.

And if you're wondering "why Trump", you have to keep in mind that at the start of the campaign, EVERYONE was saying not to vote for Trump. Even Fox News! It wasn't until later on that the non-edgy, not-Neo-Nazi people started taking him seriously... and by that time, the creators had already gone with making Trump the biggest joke in politics, so they couldn't go back.

>>93951625
They implied he was a shit-spewing lame duck, and mocked him getting credit for the Bush stimulus.

>>93951089
Smokers kill other people.

>>93951890
Less than you mr."everyone in this site is stupid but me",South Park is biased, they're far more pro liberal causes than conservatives and that's not even up for debate, you're literally acting like a ponifag being overprotective towards your little show.

>>93951942
>They implied he was a shit-spewing lame duck
What? They actually used the duck to describe his opponent at 2012 election, and later the duck was used mostly to random jokes and not about Obama himself

>>93951818
It was dissonant as hell, given that those labels were foisted on them after decades of them working to suppress evidence of the link between cigarettes and cancer.

The t.r.u.t.h. ads and performance art crap was going on at the time, and it was obnoxious and preachy as hell, but the set-up of posing tobacco companies as fun and ethical and not organizations who have been trying to push their product without regard for the damage it was doing to people (and who still are in other countries) reeks of them not having done any research on the topic they think they're qualified to remark on, something which they clearly don't for a number of the topics they try to provide commentary for.

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When they did an Inception spoof to criticize the movie for not actually being deep or cool when it turned out they literally didn't see the movie and just copied lines verbatim from a College Humor sketch.

>>93951961
Suuuuuure they do, buddy.

>>93951691
Well they did make him into a jewel thief.

>>93951680
"Chef Goes Nanners" is the episode you're looking for.

>>93951625
>the time he had the chinese rig his election
>the time he was part of that sex addict shit
>the time he said he'd spend his last hours with his family watching tyler perry garbage


that's literally as much shit as they gave Bush, so I don't see what the problem is.

>>93952186
>the time he had the chinese rig his election
conspiracy theory joke
>the time he was part of that sex addict shit
Not based on his personality
>the time he said he'd spend his last hours with his family watching tyler perry garbage
A joke because he was black

Nothing of that is "shitting on him", they even called Bush retarded once,They simply never made anything against Obama.

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>>93952272
>saying that he watches tyler perry because he's black isn't "shitting on him"
>literally having both of his election wins as fraudulent is "nothing against him"

holy shit

>>93952186
Describe what they critized of Obama in those moments. You can't because they're not fucking with Obama, just some random scenes where he's in that are not criticism in any way.

>>93952317
>saying that he watches tyler perry because he's black isn't "shitting on him"
No is not
>literally having both of his election wins as fraudulent is "nothing against him"
Except that they made fun of people who thought this was fraudulent

>>93952317
only the 2nd one was technically fraudulent
the first one was him legit running & winning, albeit he used it as a cover

>>93952413
I'm pretty sure the election if fraudulent if your opponent is conspiring with you in it, its like fixing a game.

Just let people smoke god damn

>>93951729
Catholics are retarded

>>93952485
Just accept that smokers are the niggers of the 21st century and apartheid is here to stay.

>>93952485
Just don't blow it my face

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>>93952381
I'm sorry, does Obama also need to be eating a watermelon and chucking spears before you considered it making jokes at his expense?

And hey, let's also not throw in the fact Obama literally praised Caitlyn Jenner, the person who literally killed someone with their car which the the show had no trouble pointing out themselves. That'd never be a dig at Obama, nope. Entirely a dig at Jenner.

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>>93952535
Noticed now how you still can't point any criticism against his person or politics in any of those scenes?

>South Park has lost their edge

Okay- what could they possibly do?
They've already covered so many goddamn things. I think they should just go back to the point of actually telling entertaining stories.

Like "Free Hat" where the town inexplicably want to release a baby serial killer.
Fortunately that seems the be the intent of the next season of South Park- Trump is just simply...too goddamn easy a target. It would just be exhausting and repetitive.

>>93951477
It's a support group were you try to find people who will support you in your attempts to get clean. It's disliked by a lot of people for many reasons and many involve that it takes away a lot of chances to make cash

t. someone who has had multiple family members go through it.

>>93951451
Is this people who self-report or this from organizations that are related to Coors and Miller?

>>93952614
so what your mad they didn't insult him?

Any episode with global warming.

>>93952703
Nope, I'm just refuting "they're unbiased" or "shit on everyone" bullshits, nothing against liberal shows just don't pretend they're not liberals that's pathetic.

>>93951047
>ITT-anons that can't take a joke
>also ITT-reading way too much into shit

>>93951578

I don't know about shitting on everything but you can tell Trey has grown up a little. Characters using gay/fag has pretty much been dropped completely and Cartman isn't quite as much of an asshole as he used to be. At the very least I doubt we'll ever see the full bodied Nazi inclination he was at for a while.

>>93952614
What was there to complain about? Did you want a South Park episode where they made fun of Obamacare or something? This is South Park, not Alex Jones.

Second-hand smoke isn't real

>>93951691
He's boring because it was suicide to make fun of the first black guy to be President in any way that could be offensive. You make reference to him basically being retarded without a script writer or give him an illegitamate son who is a huge piece of shit who beats up friendly Mexicans.

>>93952751
they are biased, very few people aren't, but your lying to yourself or perhaps just simple minded if you think South Park just fits into a single simple box labeled liberal

also "liberal bias" is often confused for "factual bias" but that doesn't actually relate to South Park that's just in general

>>93952731
this

>>93951722
And also the people who thought he was the Messiah (i.e. Randy).

>>93952751
They lean more to the left, yeah, but they still do shit on everyone. Just because they haven't called Obama a turd sandwich doesn't mean they wouldn't.

Compare this to Family Guy that is so unapologetically biased certain views it's almost Dobson-tier in its one-sided writing.

>>93952509
t. Protestant cuck
Keep printing up those flyers on the Inquisition and importing Africans.

>>93952534
Anon if that's all I need to do to make non smokers happy, then consider that my gift to y'all

>>93952799
Libya disagree.

>>93952751

They never shit on Bush either. The closest they ever came was with the 9/11 conspiracy episode where he reveals that the Government isn't some all powerful/all knowing entity that controls whatever happens inside the US so they invented the 9/11 Inside Job conspiracy to convince people they WERE just that all powerful/all knowing.

Which is more a criticism of how stupid people are than Bush himself.

>>93952614
It's funnier to poke fun at the people against Obama than Obama himself. Whoopdedoo.

Bush was depicted as level-headed in the show, too. Hell the worst you can say about Bush was that he was depicted as a turd sandwich.

And Hillary was depicted unfavorably as well, to that similar degree. I distinctly remember Garrison actively trying to lose but not being able to because Hillary is that unfavorable.

>>93953024
Papists not importing Africans? The pope even licks their toes

>>93952809
>suicide
Dude, South Park has done and said worse things that could have taken them off the air than talking about how Obama is manipulative.

I'm sure there is bias but don't for a second tell me that they would be afraid of talking shit about Obama. They just didn't want to.

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Being completely earnest, this still bothers me. The political cynicism that the Giant Douche v. Turd Sandwich bit symbolizes just turns off people from politics, when the more nationally healthy choice is to push for greater political engagement. You get douches and turds when regular folks don't give a shit and only douches and turds turn out for the primaries.

>>93953087
>Bush was depicted as level-headed in the show, too.
He wanted to invade Heaven.

>why didn't South Park shit on Obama :(

They didn't shit on Clinton or Bush either. Hell, they let Trump off easy by having Garrison be a standin which gave them free reign to shit on Hillary (who also had an entire episode dedicated to her way back when she was running against Obama). And then there's Al Gore but I think that's more a consequence of their hesitation to fully accept Global Warming (or at least the sensationalist version Al Gore preaches). It's pretty obvious South Park by in large avoid targeting specific politicians. The few times they do show up is almost always besides the point.

>>93951729
"""Catholics""".
About half of them don't even believe in God.

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>>93951932
>That... no, that's definitely not South Park

Yes, that's South Park. Their anti-Trump message fell on deaf ears because it told its audience years ago all politicians are the same, so who cares about voting anyway. Global warming isn't real so don't bother--oh, wait, yes it is. Oh well, too late to do anything now.

South Park became a show that encouraged people to never invest in anything because everything sucks and now they're wondering why nobody listened to them when they tried to give a damn last season.

>>93953080
Bush was pretty clearly slow as fuck in the show like he's called on real life,they took it very easy on him but was not like Obama that hard 8 years without any bashing besides "lol he's black"

>>93953080
>Which is more a criticism of how stupid people are than Bush himself.
Yeah, Bush was actually portrayed as semi-competent. Which at the time where the same station it aired on had shit like "Lil Bush" was fucking revolutionary.

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>>93953233
>by in large

>>93953306
Lil Bush was pretty good and surprisingly unbiased for their name, they made fun of both republicans and democrats many times calling democrats a bunch of faggots that can't ever do anything for real.

>>93953285
>encouraged people to never invest in anything because everything sucks
God, it's this shit again. It's always "South Park sucks because they say both sides are bad and you shouldn't believe in anything". They're not saying you shouldn't believe in anything. They're just telling you to not be a retard and to not see things in extremes. You can believe in something without being a fucking radical over it.

>>93953365
That's a strange stance to take, given that the show itself often depicts the individuals and ideas it disagrees with as extremes themselves.

>>93953333
Nice.

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>>93953233
>They didn't shit on Clinton
They've had the handful of Bill Clinton is a sex addict jokes ever since like, season 2. And they called Hillary fat, old, and had a disgusting vagina for years. And Hillary's name in the newest season was Turd Sandwich and they basically implied she was straight up retarded in some jokes.

They've done quite a lot of Clinton family jokes during their entire run.

>>93953200
I didn't realize this pic was already posted, but yes, this is what I mean.

>The political cynicism that the Giant Douche v. Turd Sandwich bit symbolizes just turns off people from politics, when the more nationally healthy choice is to push for greater political engagement. You get douches and turds when regular folks don't give a shit and only douches and turds turn out for the primaries.

>>93952751
>dedicate an episode to making fun of people who believe in global warming
>dedicate an entire season to shitting on SJWs and upper-middle class white libs
>all of those many, many times they portray liberals as being ignorant drugged up hippie pussies

No but you're right, they made fun of trump so they have to be liberal. It doesn't matter that they've had episodes like death camp of tolerance to make fun of PC culture, or more episodes than I can count making fun of environmentalism. They insulted trump, something which no republican has ever done, so they must be liberal.

>>93953213
So did literally everyone

>>93952535
>That'd never be a dig at Obama, nope
he's been shown to be slow, unwitting and less capable than his wife.
then there was a whole ep about how the entire election is a ruse and BOTH parties are in on it

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You don't really see much of Al Gore these days

>>93953431
>It doesn't matter that they've had episodes like death camp of tolerance to make fun of PC culture
By your logic Trump is a liberal for bashing alt right and Obama for bashing PC culture, those are extremists and irl no serious figure support them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZVCbW63lc

>>93953395
Because the extremes are humorous, dummy. They're supposed to be mocking commentary, not insightful.

Do you know why the PC Crowd in South Park are frat boys? Because it's really funny.

>>93951047
>you have the choice between 2 options
>one is shit, and so is the other
>do nothing, accept that things are shit, play along and become apathetic, because it's the new rad thing to do

>>93953581
I was once told by a man named Mr. Rush that if I choose not to decide I still have made a choice.

>>93951532
I want to agree but South Park is unashamedly a vehicle for Trey Parker's opinions, no matter how small or insignificant. So many episodes feel like they were written a week earlier after he suffered a minor inconvenience of read something that made him mad. It's like Family Guy in that sense, but tailored to one man's views, rather than a bunch of sophomoric liberal college students who are mad but aren't exactly sure what to be mad at.

>>93953520
He had a proportionally large part in Stick of Truth if that counts for anything.

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>>93953581
Loser.

>>93951890
He's just been on /pol/ too long and forgot that it's the /r9k/ of political discussion, right down to the Pepes.

>>93953581
But both sides are often shit, anon. And the real answer is to either find a middle ground, or to stay away from extremes and go have fun with your friends. When has South Park specifically preached complete and total apathy?

Stanley's Cup wasn't funny. I mean yeah, I get the point. Still doesn't make the image of a kindergartener dying while others get beaten to a pulp any more funny.

Unless you mean politically or social commentary. Can't say I ever had a beef with any of their opinions there.

>>93953630
South Park is also kind of the cartoon equivalent of a Kelly comic.

>>93953637
Just because he was the only "hard" boss to beat. He was a sidequest. A cool one though.

>>93953619
He sounds wise

>>93953304
>Bush was pretty clearly slow as fuck

No he wasn't. I mean, he was the root of the 9/11 conspiracy after all.

>>93953756

What conspiracy? 9/11 was a bunch of pissed off Muslims.

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>>93953619
That's just a choice for the status quo.

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>>93953696
kek that's a bizarrely astute observation. Although I think Kelly comics are much more tongue in cheek about the comics that depict Kelly's actual viewpoints, whereas Trey doesn't strike me as someone with a whole lot of self awareness.

>>93953404
>They've had the handful of Bill Clinton is a sex addict jokes ever
And so did literally everyone else on TV, I don't know if South Park ever made fun of GW but it's been low hanging jokes every time in everything
>Bill Clinton is a sex addict repeat repeat
>George Bush is a literal retard repeat
>And so far Trump is orange and Russia's butch repeat repeat
No one was afraid of being blacklisted by Hollywood for making fun of Obama. He just did not have as many fuck ups for low hanging jokes

>>93953570
>Do you know why the PC Crowd in South Park are frat boys? Because it's really funny.

Also pointing out how "mainstream" it's become among younger demographics. The new 21 Jump Street pretty much did the same thing when they made the coolest kids in the school the socially and environmentally conscious and made Chaning Tatum's insensitive jock schtick that served him in his earlier high school days passe.

Simpsons made a sort of similar joke when Homer goes to college thinking it's going to be Revenge of the Nerds, when the jocks are all respectful and the Dean is actually quite forward thinking and progressive. I also think they did an episode where Burns goes to his ivy league alma mater and fraternity and finds that it's less elitist and full of more socially conscious people than he remembers.

The fact that they're pussying out of making fun of Trump from this point forward because they know their fanbase is a bunch of right-wing libertarians and the alt-right and they don't want to lose their support.

>>93953974
>The golden Simpson episode
Fantastic choice it's still in my top 25 episodes.
>alma mater burns
Recent episode but I'll give it to them it was pretty funny.

>>93954070

They said they aren't mocking Trump because its too easy and cliche.

>>93953773
The conspiracy that the U.S. government who can't even operate a website is not only competent but Batman levels of competent.

>>93954105
And they are completely right it would be a waste of air time I want kids being kids episodes again

>>93954105
Mocking any president is easy and cliche. They're just being bitches about it because they don't want to lose a good chunk of their fanbase.

>>93951190
The fact that this episode has some pretty funny moments only makes it more infuriating.

>>93953894
>Trey doesn't strike me as someone with a whole lot of self awareness
It varries a lot, but I meant more in how heavy-handed the caricature is. Trey knows how heavy-handed he's being sometimes, and even though it represents his viewpoints he obviously knows he's being preachy and caricatural.
It's a different sort of self-awareness from Kelly, where he parodies the opponent's point of view but it's hard to tell how much he knows he's being an ass on serious issues (so not coupons or DC vs Marvel).

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>>93954105
Like that's stopped them before.

>>93954117

I know. I'm just quoting South Park.
>Them who was responsible for 9/11?
>What do you mean? A bunch of pissed off Muslims.
>Yeah, what are you, retarded?

>>93954143

Kids being kids and no story arcs. It doesn't work.

>>93953974
On the college note: That's been a trope for awhile just because it's so baked into truth. College kids have been whiny liberals since like, the 50's. The daughter and her husband in All in the Family could be dropped into a modern show and it wouldn't even skip a beat.

And I think the jock thing is just reversing expectations since they were such popular antagonists in the 80's and 90's, when all these writers and creators grew up. I don't think it's mainstream so much as everyone just having the same idea for a joke and all of them thinking it's hilarious.

>>93954172
>no story arcs
They did it for 17 years or so now, I think it did work.

>>93953200
>>93953285
>douchebag and turd sandwich
I remember watching that fucking episode when it came out and I remember watching people reference the fucking thing last election

>>93951506
Which season was this episode in?

>>93954230
I think that's what Boco meant but he has fucked up grammar because he's Boco.

>>93954230

Last season didn't. Some episodes, while moving the plot along, were a drought of jokes.

19 still managed to make each episode funny and standalone. 20, not so much.

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I honestly can't think of any episode where I disagreed with South Park. The only times I can really say was when Butters got punished for nothing or for what someone else did, or when Kyle was acting like a shithead when he got AIDS when he was the main culprit in laughing at Cartman for having it. The ending wasn't really one I liked, either.

>>93954288
Only because they are starved for material, it needs to be put down for good.

>>93954167
I just want to see Kelly. I want to know what he looks like. I feel like that would influence my perception of the comics in a meaningful way.

>>93951645
t.fatty justifying their lard of an existence

>>93954302
5/8, nice try.

>>93954313
They're renewed through season 23 or something.

>>93954319
Hi trey said hello to your wife's son for me.

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>>93951193
>they we're just trying to be contrarian and edgy

that's pretty much South park in a nutshell

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>>93954319

>>93951190
Didn't this one come before the one where they went to the water park though?

>>93951333
This is definitely fandom based and it made me laugh. If you spend anytime on the tumblr side of the fandom (Trust me, don't) it's 90% Craig and Tweek. It's the legitimately most popular pairing and has been since i was 15 and I think the way they handled it showed perfectly most people's reaction to the shipping while making just as much light hearted fun at the shippers.

>>93951402
Well let's consider this though: Why DO we get so pissed at tobacco companies for just producing a product people want? I think more regulation over what they put in with the tobacco would be more beneficial than lobbying against them as the devil.

We don't do that to people who make alcohol despite people dying from alcoholism (Being an alcoholic is one of the only substances that can kill you if you quit cold turkey. Even heroin won't do that).

We don't lobby as hard against Big Pharma who got people addicted to opiates through a lot of bad handling of prescriptions (My older brother took them as prescribed after mouth surgery and ended up addicted to them to the point he went to straight heroin. He's addicted to kratom instead now which isn't that much better).

I get the point they're making as someone who doesn't see anything wrong with tobacco companies, rather, the way PSAs and such about them are handled (Butt Out is a perfect example of this especially for PSAs from the 80s and 90s).

In the end, telling the truth about tobacco, alcohol, and any substance is better than lying and making it seem like you'll die from one drag and taking personal responsibility for your own actions.

People have made the same jokes about Chris Christie in recent years because he lobbies against cannabis as a dangerous substance but he's obese (Even fox news had a guest on who joked about how hamburgers could kill you too, basically just calling him a fat fuck which he is).

>>93954360
I honestly think there's not much wrong with that. They have enough hits doing that that I can forgive their misses.

>>93954326
?

NAMBLA was right

>>93951419
A lot of people view AA as a cure, as an "end all be all" for getting clean from alcohol (and other substances cause I think some groups handle more than just alcoholism these days).

But it's personal responsibility for yourself that is the real 'cure.' AA can be great but a lot of people treat it like you go in and come out fine when that's not the case for everyone, and Stan's dad is an example of this kind of person.

I don't think they were shitting on AA as a whole, more so shitting on people who treat themselves as though they need to be hospitalized and use AA and such as a crutch and an excuse to keep drinking or gain sympathy when no one will let them drink despite it being their own lack of self control that's the problem.

>>93951532
This. Matt and Trey have stated many times they never set out with an agenda (Except maybe last season which they admit didn't work) they just do what they think is funny.

>>93954431
Dude. They have SEX. With CHILDREN.

>>93954431

Wow, you guys really do look like Marlon Brando.

>>93954407
>I honestly think there's not much wrong with that

There shouldn't be anything wrong , it's entertainment , just hasn't been good entertainment for many years

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Specifically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZR44sfS_44

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUy5ycTg-l4

Basically you can call people retards but you can't call people niggers. Totally a 180 on what is essentially the same topic. Both are derogatory terms used to describe historically marginalized groups of people. but according to Matt and Trey the word Nigger doesn't fall into the "It's just a word lmao" umbrella like retard does. They're not the only comedic writers that are hypocrites about this specific topic (Seth McFarland comes to mind) but I actually respect the bulk of their work so this sticks out to me more.

Literally strawman comic the episode

>>93954519
Yeah never noticed it but that's pretty dumb.

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>>93954519
>hey're not the only comedic writers that are hypocrites about this specific topic (Seth McFarland comes to mind)

>McFarlane is on Bill Mahr
>talks about saying the word retard is fine and how they even had an actress with down syndrome on who was cool with it so it's fine
>later on talk about how his cousin is a faggot and how his uncle called him a faggot and that's bad because gay people deserve our love and understanding

>>93954519
Also the faggot/harley rider thing.

And here is an opinion that will be super-popular here on 4chan: I think all 3 words should be permanently thrown into the trash. Get more creative with your vocabulary.

>>93954519
There's a major difference between the words retard and nigger. Retards don't exactly have the same history that black people do, and even then the approaches of the subject create different situations.

The point of the Niggers episode was that despite the lengths that Randy went to he still didn't understand the fundamental thing that Stan learned at the end. Whether you (were you a black person) have give any credence to the black struggle or not, it's still something that is socially expected of you to acknowledge and be informed about. Stan trying to pass it off as if he could ever have that history is what made it insincere as what Randy was doing.

Jimmy using the word retard to describe things that aren't retarded is used as a point for his writing is very different from Randy answered "people who annoy you" with a racial slur. Sure, Jimmy shouldn't be a voice for all retarded people, but he's not trying to be and calls another guy out for trying to ban it.

I take the stance that neither word should be taboo, but does that mean I'm gonna say nigger at the grocery store? Fuck no, I'm not retarded.

>>93954727
>can't understand the difference between faggot and fag
what are you, gay

>>93954727
That episode was so lazy. Every punchline was "well ur a fag"

>>93954766
>Retards don't exactly have the same history that black people do
Not gonna go into the episode itself, but mentally challenged people have one of the most consistently worst histories in all of humanity. Even now, it's still severely misunderstood, cases are mistreated, and they're often seen as second-class citizens.

>>93954805

Still had some great moments, though. Particularly Webster and the term "bike-curious".

>>93954519
>but according to Matt and Trey the word Nigger doesn't fall into the "It's just a word lmao" umbrella like retard does

Remind me where you're getting this? Been years but from what I remember of the episode:

1) the characters said "nigger" a lot, which doesn't square with Trey and Matt being against the term being used

2) the plot was about the ridiculousness of attempting to ban a term because it offends you

>>93954850
While I do recognize that, again, the word's history is not on par with the word nigger's history.I should have explained that better. I don't believe the history of a word should forever paint its meaning and intent, since I also prescribe to the same nigger/nigga vernacular difference because again, it comes from context and intent.

Hell, the suffix -fag here rarely carries actual gay connotations and even if it did,it's spread so widely that it's lost any sort of meaning, like cuck to an extent

Hell, at this point I think the word oriental shouldn't be considered a slur since it's gone long enough without it being as ubiquitously so. Language changes and evolves.

>>93954850
Uh! No sweetie They are second class citizens.

>>93954727
I do miss candy-ass and roody-poo.

>>93955050
The only reason niggers care about nigger is that they're so retarded in their usage they're feeding the power to the word.

Dumping on Tom Brady for deflated footballs but having nothing to say about Peyton "The HGH was for my wife!" Manning.

>>93955271
Hey /sp/, one affects how one player plays the game and the other affects how EVERYONE plays the game. Big difference.

>>93955271

I don't watch sports at all but I've heard of the deflated football thing but not the HGH thing so maybe that has something to do with it

>>93951402

That's literally the joke, pham.

>>93953894
Why does that faggot always have to draw himself in the corner of his comics? He never contributes anything that we couldn't already deduce from the comic itself. It's insulting to the audience's intelligence.

>>93954519
I don't know it felt pretty apologetic for the guys who said niggers.
Randy was just a guy who goofed up Wheel of Fortune. Kramer and that other guy were just making jokes nobody laughed at.
I thought the implication was supposed to be it's ridiculous how people act like Nigger is the end of the world. Ending with them outlawing the use of "nigger guy" because it hurt people's feelings. Clearly a stupid idea.

Also the context of retarded and nigger are totally different. Nigger in the context was always a slur. Retarded just meant stupid. It's closer to their message on the use of Fag to mean idiots as well.

>>93955180
These both work

>>93951089
Yes, that's true, but the problem is they're, at the same time, painting the tobacco company in good light.

>>93954519
Probably because "nigger" has a much more deep seeded part of messy time in american history(slavery).

>>93951729
I personally know many Catholics who deny evolution.

>>93951680
>a plot where they don't know what a tampon is doesn't really work anymore
Cartman still thought girls had ball earlier last season, and that same joke was done before

>>93954463
If I didn't know any better I would have thought that scene was satire to show how persecuted pedophiles are.

>>93952137
Second hand smoke can kill other people.

Going home and eating shit literally only hurts yourself.

Do you not see which is worse?

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>>93956265
>Muh gobernmint propaganda

I read an article from a libertarian think tank that said second hand smoke is unscientific propaganda made up to oppress harmless tobacco companies. Wake up sheeple!

>>93952809
nigga south park made fun of fucking mohammed, do you seriously believe theyd get in trouble for making fun of the president, in the US of all fucking places?

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>>93951625
He was a really tame president. There wasn't a lot of material to work with.

>>93954431
t. Milo

>>93951193
>Yet they tried to show cigars in a positive light
No they don't that whole musical segment was just a joke playing on your expectations based on how most media portrays smoking. They never said it was good for you they're just against all the regulations the government places on it.

>>93951532
>You're no different than those late '90s PC mothers rioting when South Park first came out.
Pretty sure there's a huge fucking difference between some guy merely stating he disagrees with the message of one episode and someone throwing a fit on national television until a show they dislike gets banned forever.

The grand irony of South Park is that for all its efforts to assume a kind of unaffected, non-partisan, 'no-bullshit' way of criticizing both sides, all they accomplish is indulging the apathy of its audience by reinforcing the self-defeating idea that their cynical dismissive non-action is preferable to ever taking up any side of an issue and risk being mocked for it. In effect all South Park has ever really supported with its irreverent satire is the status quo.

It's no surprise that this inside-dopester take on social and political issues has always most readily resonated with adolescent boys who care more about feeling smarter by ridiculing others with the nerve to field an opinion than risking one themselves.

>>93955649
That's the joke m8. The entire goal of Kelly is being the most convincingly fake awful political comic.

>>93953024
Don't you have some kiddies to rape and murder?

>>93957079
But he doesn't have to draw himself in the corner for it to work. The joke stands on its own.

>>93957191
But he does because it makes it even worse.

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The election arc in general. It really didn't feel like it had a point it was just another "HUR DUR BOTH SIDES ARE SHIT! DUDE CENTRISM LMAO!" I don't think it even helped that they replaced Trump with Mr. Garrison. They really shouldn't have counted their eggs before they hatched.

>>93957283
Idiot....

>>93951190
>>93951506
>>93954162
>How dare they imply there is a better country than ours?
A classic cheeseburger in white inbread, please.

>>93957283
To be fair, both sides ARE complete shit, and the increasingly vitriolic, insular tribalism of both parties is a huge part of why things have gotten this bad.

But overall it felt like they were trying to comment on multiple things but weren't sure what they wanted to say about any of it. It was just a fumbling, failed experiment of a season.

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>>93957493
>there is a better country than the US
>and it's name is Mexico

>>93954519
You apparently have no fucking idea how much of an uproar an episode like that would cause. Even if they wanted to do that, which would almost certainly be career suicide (did you even pay attention to the episode), comedy central would never in a million years allow it to air.

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>>93953262
¿WUT?
Oh man I want to hear about this one...

>>93954850
This.
>>93955050
The only reason it's not on par is that people with special needs have no one to speak up for them. Black people have had many influential and vocal advocates over the years.
>>93955049
But the ending was fundamentally about how it was fucked up to say and white people don't understand why it's so fucked up. But just because they don't understand doesn't mean they shouldn't respect why black people dislike the term.
>>93955981
People with special needs have arguably gone through worse shit for a lot longer period of time than black slaves. Mistreatment of people with special needs came before slavery in the US and continues well afterwards.
>>93955682
>Also the context of retarded and nigger are totally different. Nigger in the context was always a slur. Retarded just meant stupid. It's closer to their message on the use of Fag to mean idiots as well.

But Retarded is now a slur in the same way nigger is. The term is far outdated medically speaking. It's absolutely derogatory. That's why it's hypocritical for them to make the distinction.

>>93951419
I think they were dumping more on the submitting to a higher power aspect of it. Not so much belief in one, just the part that says you're powerless to fight your addiction and only by giving up one's sense to attempt to control that and leave it in the hands of the supreme cosmic force seem a bit like a cult mindset.

Maybe AA changed since that, who knows.

>>93957676
Yes, because society doesn't give a shit about people with special needs but piss themselves over the thought of pissing off black people. Which in and off itself highlights the inherent hypocrisy I'm talking about. Not as many people give as many shits. That's the only reason they're treating the terms differently.

>>93954766
>I take the stance that neither word should be taboo, but does that mean I'm gonna say nigger at the grocery store? Fuck no, I'm not retarded.

And see you're being cute about it, but you still highlight the difference in the hypocritical way society views both words

>>93954431
japs and the past had it right. 14 and up is fine, they're doing it anyways

>>93957697
>But the ending was fundamentally about how it was fucked up to say and white people don't understand why it's so fucked up

No it was about how Stan shouldn't pretend to know what it's like when he can't. There were two separate stories going on, one where banning offensive words is presented as laughable, and one where pretending to "understand" what it's like to be offended by something that doesn't apply to you is disingenuous.

It's not Trey and Matt's fault you can't separate the two.

>tfw you aren't allowed to dislike season 20 without being a drumf supporter.

>>93951625

If it makes you feel better, they said they plan on holding off on the Trump jokes next season.

>>93957811
Funny, there's an uproar over Matt and Trey staying out of the Trump issues.

Namely because they're mad for Matt and Trey having an opinion on things they embrace and confuse it for malice.

>>93956723

Would have been nice to see something about how he punished more whistleblowers than any previous administration, but I don't know how you make that funny

>>93957875
>Funny, there's an uproar over Matt and Trey staying out of the Trump issues.

Don't see what. M&T have always avoided making fun of the same shit everyone else is.

>>93955180
Godamn feels like an age since I last heard roody-poo

They would not make the garrison sex change episodes today

Since everyone else is complaining about political issues, I'll go ahead and say that T&M's support for Uber was severely misplaced.

>>93951190
Maybe they actually went to Mexico, and didn't just visit one of those borderline shit towns that are meant for cheap underage whores and drugs for the gringos.

>>93954158
Are you retarded?
>literally all late night comedy, talk shows, stand up comedy is some form of "lmfao drumpf am I right guys"
It's getting a little tiring, especially for people who don't live in the US and never gave a shit who is in charge over there. It's nice knowing at least someone is going to be offering some laughs that don't have to do with fucking politics

>>93954070
>"Why isn't South Park making fun of Trump?"
>Meanwhile, the same channel has:
>A leftist propaganda show called "Problematic"
>Another leftist propaganda show trying to be the new hip black people show called "hood adjacent"
>Yet another leftist show called "the jim jefferies show"
>A literal tv show dedicated entirely to making fun of Trump by way of the whole show being about a guy pretending to be Trump and getting interviews with SJW's called "the presidents show"
>Due to Jon Stewart retiring, the daily show is now run by a more leftist leaning black guy

Do you know what I miss on this channel /v/? I miss when it had comedy shows that weren't just about making fun of Trump, and were actually funny. Shows like Chappelle's Show, Drawn Together, and the old Daily Show. Now, if you are a foreigner or black, and leftist, Comedy Central would probably give you a tv show if you called them up. This shit makes me wish Hillary won instead so the channel could actually be funny instead of full of so much garbage. When is this trend going to end?

>>93958083
This. Even though Bush was a goober, he wasn't the topic of half the shit on TV every night. If the rest of the industry gets tired of shitting on Trump every night, which I doubt will happen, maybe then SP will pick up the topic.

>>93958141
>when is this trend going to end

Between 4-8 years. No sooner, but also no later

Remember when making fun of the president was just one well executed joke on saturday night live, and not all the late night shows entirely? Me neither.

>>93953200
The problem with this episode is that it should've been a criticism towards the bi-partisan American system but they just left it at Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich.

>>93958000

why?

>>93957191
Holy shit, can anybody be this dense?
I hope he's just trolling.

>>93956060
They're fucking stupid since the Vatican has constantly accepted evolution, and one of its forerunners was a friar (Mendel)

>>93958184

You must not have been around when Clinton was getting blown in the oval office.

>>93957762

That's just a meme. Sex with children under 18 is a potential jail sentence/heavy fine in Japan if parents press charges.

>>93958248
Google Uber's business practices. The "gig economy" is a fucking farce.

>>93953520
This.

They fucking denied global warming for an episode. Total retards.

>>93957811
Huh? Season 20 was universally disliked, though.

>>93959013

At least three. Behind the Blow, the Al Gore episode and whatever the one with the damn breaking.

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Manbearpig.

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>>93958635
seriously tho. source?

>>93953404
Jesus they ruined Bill's look

>>93951047
People who think that episode was "pro smoking" completely missed its point. I mean for crying out loud, the boys burned down the school through smoking.

>>93953520
Was it SP fault that people never took Global Warming seriously?

>>93956723
>He was a really tame president.
He bombed people with murder rc planes. But those were all brown so I guess that was tame and didn't take away from his nobel peace price at all.

>>93959391
How is a comedian meant to make that truth more absurd?

>>93959391

So did Bush, so is Trump...as long as the war on terror continues so will using drones to kill random brown people.

>>93959373

I don't know about pro smoking but they're pretty clearly in the camp that smokers should be allowed to go about their business wherever they want. You see the same defense in the pc death camp episode where everyone shits on the smoker for a brief moment.

>>93951047
Pretty sure the criticism was that the anti-smoking lobby was overreaching in their campaign becoming cartoonish in the efforts they'd go to just get people to stop smoking including outright lying(second hand smoke being more dangerous than smoking). It's not an endorsement of smoking so much as it is an endorsement for leaving people alone.

>>93959611
>second hand smoke being more dangerous than smoking

No one ever argued this.

>>93958635
You are technically wrong. While Japan's overall age of consent is actually 13, local prefectures have their own consent laws. For instance, Tokyo's is 18.

>>93951047
>this is my favorite south park episode
>everyone hates it because they don't understand it
tfw to smart for /co/

>>93959621
Not in the medical community, but anti-smoking advertising definitely does.

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I feel like even after Kanye said he was humbled by their portrayal of him, the writers of South Park still unironically hate him. It's sad because Kanye has a lot of depth and people who hate him have never really heard his work. Whatever, I'm sure Trey will realize the irony one night while he's tucking his wife's son in bed

>>93959684
He thinks he's God and he's not joking. That kind of ego is easy to hate.

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>>93959691
It's just so fucking reddit to hate Kanye right now

>>93959679

No it doesn't.

>not smoking is more dangerous than smoking

Come on dude.

>>93951047
People didn't seriously agree with South Park of all things did they?

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>>93959691
B-but he a muthafuckin' genius! A muthafuckin' lyrical wordsmith!

>>93956412
That was before 9/11. I hate to break it to you but absolutely no-one except Israelis (in the exclusive context of Palestine) and the very far-sighted gave a shit about Muslims one way or the other before 9/11.

>>93951625

He made America so shit that all the Mexicans fucked off back to Mexico.

>>93959707
Lots of people hate him. It has nothing to do with Reddit. Quit using buzzwords.

>>93951625
That's because he was a good president and seemed like a decent, good-hearted person.

>>93959391
>He bombed people with murder rc planes
that's standard president stuff
>But those were all brown so I guess that was tame and didn't take away from his nobel peace price at all.
Obviously

>>93951508
>It was their reaction to the Yaoi fandom behind their show. They basically had the same reaction as the boys "I don't get it"

I don't get how they don't get it. It's the equivalent of how guys think lesbians are hot. It's basically the same thing.

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>>93951784
>Matt Smith

>>93951047
The episode where they replace the Pope with a rabbit that can't talk and say that it's better that way, because it's what Jesus would have wanted.
Leaving discussions about what Jesus would want aside, they're basically saying that religious organizations should shut up and never say anything about anything or get involved in anything.

>>93951047
Goobacks was the only immigration-related episode to get it right. And Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina > The Cissy.

>>93952133
You know a lot of people parrot this "Inception isn't really deep" statement and I have to wonder, just how little of the movie did these people actually understand to think that the movie was at all even TRYING to be deep? It was a very straightforward narrative except for a very general ambiguous ending which is the only part where the audience has to think for themselves. Everything else is explained in abundance and there is no real dramatic interactions with complex personalities.

I really didn't get the "Bono is a piece of shit" episode.

>>93960640
Bono is a pretty good guy who donates massive amounts of money to charity and loudly informs people and encourages them to donate too.

But despite all his humanitarian efforts, his personality still comes off a douchey.

>>93959391
There were much better examples you could have chosen. Like when Obama used a drone to kill an American citizen without a trial.

>>93959707
Oh no, I better start liking him then!

>>93961141
Didn't he save a huge amount of money by committing tax fraud, making the charity money laughably insignificant?

>>93960570
>saying that religious organizations should shut up and never say anything about anything or get involved in anything.

yes. a thousand times yes. holy fuck please. stop listening to whatever random prophet you worship and make up your own damn mind on shit, for the love of god please. god gave you a brain, now is the time to use it.

>>93960592
>>93951190
i feel like you guys missed the point of the goobacks episode. it wasn't really shitting on immigration from what i remember.

>>93953670

t.cuckold

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>Spend a season introducing a meme SJW character
>Give him and the police officer character more depth than you'd expect a supporting character that's not Randy or Mr Garrison to receive.
>Give pic related a cool redemption arc in the final episode or two, tie the police officer into the final conflict.
>Absolutely drop both characters from the plot in the final season because you were banking on Hillary winning, and hastily rewrite scripts into a fucking abomination that was the last season

>>93952854

Liberals are not facts lol.

>>93952130
The truth ads were false flags. The cigarette episode is a famous case of Matt and Trey not just not doing research, but being blatantly misinformed and playing right into the hands of the people they were supposed to be arguing against.

The obnoxious truth ads were supposed to be obnoxious to get people to hate the anti-smokers, and Matt and Trey fell for it hook line and sinker. They're even trying it again now with those race baiting ads. They know white people will hate it and black people tend not to be less trustful of media that panders directly to them.

>>93961598
I really didn't like PC Principal. He feels like one of those Family Guy joke characters like that guy that explains sarcasm or the olde timey weightlifters that they decided to give full cast member status for some reason.

>>93953431
>no republican has ever insulted Trump

I was just skimming this thread but your comment was so ridiculous I had to reply

>>93953200
>>93953427
Except you guys are wrong? And you've basically proven you weren't politically engaged since Trump literally only won the primaries because hundreds of thousands more people turned out to vote for him against his opponents. And that Trump would have won either way because it was 1) Him 2) Cruz 3) Carson garnering about 75% of the Republican primary voters between them. The lame whitebread candidates like Bush and Rubio were doomed because people were sick of the non-douche candidates putting on a pretty face and then fucking everything up once elected. People are tired of lying career politicians.

>>93957889
"secret dictator Obama", which I guess would amount to Obama smiling for the camera and the adoring crowds then going into his office and pulling out a whip to savage Chelsea Manning with while demanding to know what state secrets Manning passed along to Putin. Or something like that.

>>93960168
>when a poster is obviously a woman

>>93961752
Yeah, I find it very interesting that politician is one of the few careers were experience seems to actually hurt rather than help. The longer you've been a politician, the less likely people are to trust you and the more dirt you have in your closet.

I'm surprised it took so long to elect a non-politician as president.

>>93961367
>anon considers himself intelligent
>anon thinks that laypeople should totally be allowed to interpret religious texts despite what literally every religion says about hierarchy and a learned elite being necessary

Theology is a major in university for a reason, my brainlet friend.

>>93951645
kk there fatty

>>93951333
That you cant force two characters together just cause you want them to be together.
At the end theyre dating and it makes everyone happy, but they dont actually want to date. Theyre still straight, theyre just pretending.

Getting your morals or politics from South Park is hilarious.

>>93960630
It wasn't really the movie itself, it was the culture surrounding the movie. Because it was a little bit smarter then some shit like Transformers, every dumb shit retard would not shut the fuck up about how mindblowingly brilliant they were for understanding the complex weave of narrative that was inception. Every other movie was compared against inception and the most common argument against not liking it really was "you just don't get it because you're not smart enough". It lasted for months and months after release and still popped up even several years later, you'd still see people calling anything with nested layers an inception knockoff as if it had invented the concept. Now that people shut up about it I can appreciate the movie for its own merits but the unwarranted, mass hysteria levels of hype around the movie with the general public was seriously fucking annoying for the time.

>>93951190
........ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOI! OI! OI!

OOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!

>>93954252

The show also referenced it again last election, for most of the season.

I think the Don't Smoke episode was poorly articulated, and Trey and Matt's commentary makes more sense.

>"If you're allowed to buy smokes, why aren't I allowed to make my bar a smoking bar? Why can't I put a sign up that says "this is a smoking bar and if you enter you understand you'll be exposed to smoke"?

The argument was more against government interference on the part of individuals' health decisions rather than personal responsibility.

>>93963163
The problem is that they then portrayed tobacco companies as good guys.

They were wrong about the writer's strike, and they were wrong about AA.

>>93963421
What did dthey have to say about the Writer's strike?

>>93960630
Even the open ending had a point. Leo's character didn't care anymore because related is what you make of it. He was happy and that's all that mattered regardless if it was a dream or not.

>>93951625
It's not like they had an abundance of Bush jokes either.

>>93951047
>MY GOO, MY PRECIOUS GOO!
As much as I disagreed with the episode this still got a good laugh outta me.

>>93961598
>Give pic related a cool redemption arc in the final episode or two
Except that really kind of sucked. The ending didn't even make sense. "If we want to be ad-free, we need to be PC!"

>>93951047
>Finally get to Zimmerman
>Whole thing is that Zimmerman randomly shoots other races

>>93964019
Honestly that was one of their worst episodes.

>>93961825
>Theology is a major in university for a reason

So people can realize how fucking stupid the bible is?

>>93963442
That the writers were wrong to go on strike.

>>93963421
Yeah, that pissed me off because they've literally always been paid extremely well and had total freedom

It'd be like some guys getting tickled publicly telling the guys getting flayed alive to quite down

>>93961367
But pastor says listening to ourselves is sinful!

>>93961686
Yeah, but what has Principal Victoria done in the last eight years?

>>93966114
I'm not saying they needed to get rid of her, I'm saying that every time PC Principal showed up, I was shocked that he was still around because he was such a one note character that I'm still surprised he wasn't there for a joke or two and then never showed up again.

Right down to the weird microphone voice and the way he spoke. It's really not good when you can see a character show up and guess everything that will happen in his scene. The encounter with Jimmy was the only scene with him that was worth watching at all.

>>93966659
I don't know, it was pretty funny when he beat the shit out of Cartman.

>>93961665
>The truth ads were false flags.
Citation fucking needed. That group recently celebrated CVS no longer carrying tobacco products.

>The obnoxious truth ads were supposed to be obnoxious to get people to hate the anti-smokers
Do you have a source besides your ass?

>>93963265
DAS THE JOKE. Do you think they actually want people to go out and burn down rainforests too? God you people are fucking retarded.

>>93956601
That whole fucking season was a God damned mess. I hope they feel horribly ashamed/embarrassed.

>>93952093
Lame-Duck is a common term mainly used for when a president is in his final years of office, the fact you can't make that obvious connection is amazing.

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>>93951190
>Implying the South Park Mexicans aren't the most competent characters in the entire show

>>93964019
That whole episode made no fucking sense and was incredibly stupid to begin with.

>>93954070
>make a whole season about mocking Trump
>it comes out as utter dogshit for more than one reason
>Hey, lets not do that again for a while
>reee muh alt right!

>>93964019
don't forget how it all had to tie in with World War Z, and give cartman the brad pitt goatee or else how else would people get the reference?

>>93953285
>and now they're wondering why nobody listened to them when they tried to give a damn last season.
>getting your personal philosophies from a adult parody cartoon show
>taking these philosophies seriously in any sense
Only a fool would unironically get and take seriously and ideas that fucking South Park of all things puts forward.

>>93954457
>I don't think they were shitting on AA as a whole, more so shitting on people who treat themselves as though they need to be hospitalized and use AA and such as a crutch and an excuse to keep drinking or gain sympathy when no one will let them drink despite it being their own lack of self control that's the problem.

This.

AA has its issues, but the idea is behind it is simply to be a group where you can find how others suffered similar problems due to drinking and that all of you have to accept that there's a need to not drink.

Matt and Trey got stuck on the "admit that you're powerless" line that some in AA push, but even that is just a line meant to push the concept that if you can't moderate your drinking then you just shouldn't drink at all.

>>93966659
PC Principal's central problem is it was based on a caricature of something that doesn't exist. You don't have frat guys pushing for everyone to be PC so they can get laid, it's the exact opposite where you get pathetic blob shaped numales being PC because they desperately want to get laid yet often can't. Or you of course get the rainbow haired women that act more bigoted than the Westboro baptists church towards gays.

So whenever PC Principal showed up they had to reinforce the caricature as they can't depend on the audience being familiar with such a stereotype.

Heart of the problem there is the writers aren't familiar with the stereotypes of modern liberals since they're not typically reported on by the news nor portrayed in the media.

>>93953200
It wasn't so much about it always being between a douche and a turd as much as it was about people being civil towards you unless you are somehow going against them.

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The euthanasia episode.
>Spend the whole episode giving reasons why euthanasia can be a good thing
>Right at the end a ghost shows up and says no it's bad
>Doesn't give any reasons why
>Well I guess euthanasia is actually bad because the ghost said so

>>93967693
To be fair World War Z is basically already forgotten.

>>93957493
>inbread
classic third world retard

>>93967942
Aren't they libertarian? Wouldn't libertarians be pro-euthanasia?

>>93968267
I imagine they'd be against it because it's irreversible. Bit like why they'd be against the death penalty, it's not that they're against some people being killed, they just think there's always the possibility it could be a mistake.

>>93957615
well, not better than all the US mind you. Just the south states.

>>93968014
>Being this dense
Didnt know the ability to understand wordplay was linked to the number of chromosomes a person had. You learn something everyday.

>>93961193
That "American citizen" was a known terrorist leader and recruiter who hadn't even lived in the country for decades. The fact that he was an American citizen doesn't mean shit, he was an enemy combatant in a foreign land and got killed like one.

>>93968267
They're pro-NSA anon, I'm pretty sure they've been past their libertarian phase for years now.

>>93959530
>>93960171

those guys didn't win Nobel Peace prizes tho

>>93968528
is that why you people are so desperate to get into the south states?

Always thought the way they talked about Paris Hilton outside of the episode was embarassingly childish. Like middle-school tier. When she tried to brush them off by saying she was flattered, they said she was fucked up. When Kanye West admitted his episode hurt his feelings, they reacted as if to say that he's such a baby. What's the deal? There's no correct response with Stone and Parker. I liked that Fishsticks episode but just the way Stone and Parker act sometimes makes me want to kick them off their high horse. They've got their noses held too damn high.

I'm actually a huge fan of South Park for the most part, though. When they do episodes where it's just the boys getting into non-political hijinks, that's when the show is fun. Of the more recent episodes, the ones with Imaginationland, Jersey Shore, and Blockbuster were among my favorites. I was surprised that the two shits didn't make some backhanded comment after the Jersey cast tweeted about how much they enjoyed the episode.

Had to get that off my chest.

>>93951402
They may not be perfect little angels but they are just companies producing a product for which there is a demand.

Probably had people on their team who smoke. Smokers will spout about how its their choice and they do it because they like it, when in reality they wanted to look like cowboys when they were younger and theyre too embarrassed to admit theyre destroying their bodies, minds, and being slaves to the cigarette buisness for the sake of looking cool

>>93951419
AA has about the same success rate as gay conversion therapy.
Similar methods too

>>93958395
That was pretty unprecedented desu.

>>93951705
Aaron is black, if a white person tried to do so it would come off as racist.

>>93971820
>but they are just companies producing a product for which there is a demand.
With scummy methods. They advertise and sell to kids overseas and supposedly add in more nicotine than is natural in tobacco for the sole purpose of getting people hooked.

That's like saying Wal-Mart is just trying to make stuff affordable to small-income families while negating to mention what kind of slave labor they basically use to do so.

>>93951190
Maybe it's elaborate continuity where Mexico shaped up after that in South Park's universe so it had no reason to be crappy anymore.

>>93971824
This is the most presumptive bullshit I've ever read. Sounds like some shit a know-it-all teenager would assume is true.

>>93964019
You can always tell when Matt and Trey are desperate for a script because it often ends up being 22-minutes and a single punchline. Not even one or two puns to go with it, just one punchline.

That episode and The China Problem really stuck out to me as "last minute scripts".

>>93955050
I wonder what would've happened if the black community didn't try to "take back the word" by saying nigga and making it a weird case where it's socially acceptable, but only by certain people.

I know a lot of black teens and young adults who only say nigga out of habit from having heard it so much from friends or stuff they listen to/watch.

>>93972877
>Slave labor
Walmart is hardly the only company to use overseas sweatshops to make their products

>>93972939
>would assume is true.
It is.

>>93961824
>The longer you've been a politician, the less likely people are to trust you
That's because the system is seriously fucked up where even people who are trying to do good have to leap hurdles in order to achieve things. And even then, it's not guaranteed. Then there are others who abuse the system in order to things they want passed in their favor, which forces the "good" politicians to develope the same underhanded techniques just to try and compete.

It's like trying to race against a bunch of people on steroids. The only way to win is to quit the race or take steroids yourself. You'll never naturally beat them.

I don't think I've ever agreed with South Park. The strawmanning is fucking unreal.

>>93951047
The smoking episode was fucking great though.

>>93972877
>. They advertise and sell to kids overseas

That's a problem for other overseas governments and parents.

>That's like saying Wal-Mart is just trying to make stuff affordable to small-income families while negating to mention what kind of slave labor they basically use to do so.

Pretty significant difference.

>>93972939
Youre right, forgot all those people who started smoking to ease the anxiety their natural born nicotine withdrawals gave them.

>>93974014
Theres a local tobbacconist that makes some great cigarette tobacco I genuinely enjoy. He's old now and his kids don't care about continuing the business so after he dies I'll probably stop because any other ciggarette tastes like ass.

>>93951190
>jacos con sabor
what is a jaco?

>>93953581
>just two options
kek

Isnt straight tobacco different from cigarettes? like all the added things that make cigarettes addictive are more the problem than the tobacco itself