>Moral: if you're born small, weak, and ineffectual,

>>93949674
that's not a moral as much as it is the rules of nature

>>93949674
More like "You need to understand your own limitations, but don't feel like there is only one path or ability that leads to success"

>>93949674
It's more like "sometimes you have to realize you simply weren't cut out for what you thought you were." Not every person is going to be the big sports star or whatever they dream of being. It doesn't mean they don't have other talents, but it's a sad truth.

>>93949929
https://youtu.be/N3472Q6kvg0

>>93949674
And Mikey ended up being the company's top laugher, and Sully had to put into practice all the organizational skills he picked up over the years from Mikey.

A lot of the conflict in the film wouldn't have existed if there was an actual dedicated course at the college for scarer helpers or coaches, as that's where Mike's talents truly shone.

>>93950017
Yeah this.

The message is that hard work and determination aren't always going to be enough for you to fulfill your dreams if you don't have the raw talent to back it up. So you may have to reevaluate your goals and find another more realistic path for yourself

But they also inverted that with Scully. Relying on innate skill alone is going to be enough if you don't put the work in. Plenty of smart and talerted people fall flat on their face as soon as they face any real challenges because they don't know how to work hard

>>93950791
>Isn't going to be enough
My bad

>>93950791
>The message is that hard work and determination aren't always going to be enough for you to fulfill your dreams if you don't have the raw talent to back it up. So you may have to reevaluate your goals and find another more realistic path for yourself

And considering how many people get to college only to realize that their major isn't a good fit for them, this is a wonderful message.

>>93950878
Was going to say, as far as a realistic but optimistic message, the movie is pretty on point. College is a big bubble of a world in of itself and serves as a fantastic opportunity for experimentation, but hardly as a determinant as to the way the rest of one's life will go. It also dove tails into the original movie well.

>>93950878
>>93950791
And as an added bonus, Mike and Scully eventually get to work their dream jobs on the Scare Floor by working their way up from a non-degree occupation.

Oozma Kappa become better scareres by finding a method that works for them, but Mike sticks to the standard jump-scare technique and never finds a better way because he'd dedicated to the traditional craft.

Another good message could be "There may be more than one way to achieve your dreams if you've failed the traditional way"

>>93950791
>But they also inverted that with Scully. Relying on innate skill alone is going to be enough if you don't put the work in. Plenty of smart and talerted people fall flat on their face as soon as they face any real challenges because they don't know how to work hard
Except the movie demonstrated that too. Sulleys' cockiness is what flunks him out of that first class and at the end of the movie, he admits that he wouldn't have gotten anywhere without Mike's help.

>>93949674
Honestly, this film wasn't that good, but the scene at the lakeside was fucking great.

>>93949674
Isn't it more 'don't get too attached to any one dream of the future; sometimes things you didn't think you'd be a good fit for are actually perfect for you'

>>93952709
It might not have been as solid as the original, but it's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be either.

>>93950017
This. Mike wasn't scary, and I mean Sully isn't either, but in Inc, it's clearly shown that Mike is good at his job, just not his paperwork. He just found something more comfortable AND he gets to work in the industry that he enjoys.

>>93953151
The whole 'Mike isn't scary' is just really weird to me. Seems like the college shouldn't have accepted his application in the first place with a rejection letter saying he would not be scary enough to pass their course.

>>93955191

nuPixar movie. dont look for logic in them

>>93955191
1) The University entails more than just the scare program. Once he was kicked out of the program the first time he chose another major, not another school.
2) Hardscrabble (the chair of the scare program, not the university headmaster) determined he wasn't scare from watching him, his behavior, and (briefly) his setup. It's not simply about his surface appearance (there were plenty of examples of monsters that don't look scary on the surface, but make it work), it's how he caries himself. He's just not scary. His application wouldn't have shown that.

>>93955191
>>93955877
I remember in MI that there were scarers that used prosthetic like fake teeth and things like that to make them scarier. Would Mike have gotten a better edge if he had something like a contact lens that made him look like he had a scarier eye or something like that?

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>>93956051
It's possible.

>>93955877
>Implying Hardscrabble wasn't just pissed they had broken her memento

The teacher said Mike had shown "excellent improvement" and obviously thought he would be scary enough to continue with the course. He even answered Hardscrabble's scare tactic question correctly, she literally never saw him perform, and saying he wasn't scary was based purely off of his appearance.

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>>93952916
I do agree, it's pretty solid as a movie, especially compared to recent Pixar films. It's certainly better than Finding Dory and the fucking Good Dinosaur.

>>93950763
The logic was that only naturally talented scarers could teach.

They never considered that someone who WASN'T scary could teach others to scare.

>>93950013
This