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Can someone give me a rundown on everything that happened

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Can someone give me a rundown on everything that happened in the movie?
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There is already a thread for this. Go there. Mods, please nuke this redundant thread.
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>>93897469
haha no
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sage, report, etc
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>>93897409
well jarco gets confirmed and both river and moon die. also Star is a super saiyen
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>>93897409
Everybody dies, but not everybody dies for good.
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>>93897409
SvFoE officially becomes the best cartoon airing right now.
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They gone full Game of Thones...with STARCO
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>>93897409
Two new waifus, a mime and a fool.
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>>93901455
That mime really does things to my dick.

Also, more deaths than I thought possible.
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>>93897409
seriously 9/10 and cements SvFoE as one of my favorite cartoons.
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I was very satisfied with this movie. Although there was no big battle scene, Stars development through the movie was fucking great. I don't think Toffee will be gone forever, but damn was that the best send off for a villain. Most cartoons are all about the lol so random shit but that was dark man. I hope they keep this tone throughout the season with the humor kept in. I died laughing at most of Ludos parts, but also deeply enthralled by Stars development and moons backstory. Overall 9/10.
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What the fuck there's a movie?
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>>93904012
>Most cartoons are all about the lol so random shit but that was dark man
What?
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>>93897409
There's a cute mime girl!
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>take them off
I-it's lewd
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>>93901455
>>93904334
I'd make her talk.
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>>93904128
I'm talking about how most shows nowadays like Teen Titans Go and others are about making shitty jokes for a cheap laugh, and don't really follow a linear plot. But this show acknowledged the fact that the main characters mother was murdered, brought up strained race relations between mewmans and monsters, brutally killed the main villain, etc. You don't see much of that in cartoons today.
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>>93904078
First 4 episodes where designed to play together as a movie. Thought they are just the first 4 episodes of season 3.
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Is there a stream up? Id like to watcj it when i get home.
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>>93904078
You're a little slow anon
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>>93904630
No i have a demanding job, now quit being a dick and give me a link to the episode
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hmmmmm
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>>93897786

Link to the main thread?
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>>93904414
They knew what they were doing with that scene.
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>>93904692
Holy shit I didn't think it was really till I went on the app and saw it myself
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>>93904692
Oh what the fuck lol
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>>93897409
Everyone died and then came back except Toffee
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>>93901455
>>93904334
>broke her vow of silence
She's shit.
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>>93904931
I thought the goat wizard was dead for good?
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>>93904667
>doesn't obsessively check for updates every single day for shows/movies/games he likes
lol look at this faggot
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>>93904692
>>93904862
>DuckTales watermark
>on a WEBDL
This convinced me never to watch that piece of shit. I always thought the original series was boring anyway.
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Did anyone else think it kind of sucked? I'm not a Star-hater or Toffefag , but I just wasn't satisfied with that conclusion or how it was executed.

Hopefully the rest of the season is okay.
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>>93904952
To be best of our knowledge. I look forward to fanfics detailing the adventures of Lekmet and Toffee in the afterlife.
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>>93897409
Star unleashes her inner anime and completely obliterates Toffee.
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>>93904952
Lekhmet is probably dead but who knows? He might come back too

It's weird how most of the people who die in the show are ordinary background humans who get fucked up by Star's magic
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>>93897409
https://mega.nz/#!H1xkTIaD!c5JVGnJFKXE7vKJryX8xISdqoeotV0By2OM2mwm-alM
If you wanted a mega so bad just ask.
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>River doesn't know what a human toilet is
>Moon has to shit in the outhouse

Either Mewni doesn't have plumbing, which the gold toilet in the royal bedroom disproves, or River has never actually used it.
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>>93905109
Fucking finally thank you.
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>>93904952
Well don't tell Rhomblus that. Moon says he's dead, but the fact that they still have his ashes and horn makes me think they can rez him somehow. Also I don't wanna see him gone for good
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>>93905015
>Disney knows Star vs is the best thing it's got rn
>Use it to advertise its new shows
We made it boys :,)
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>>93905168
And to think all this show had to do was pander to ship fags. Before any cuck memes happened this show was seemingly going nowhere.
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>>93905168
>best thing on Disney XD
This means absolutely nothing
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I missed the end credit seen at first this morning because I thought it was done but I rewatched it all last night and when I saw it I was blown away at how different it was from the first. What do you anons think about it?
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So why exactly was Moon so calm after having her mother brutally murdered by liggers the week before?
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>>93905250
I hate it. That singer's voice is nails on a chalkboard to me.
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>>93905271
Guess she was trying to appear strong for her people now that she was the queen.
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>>93905303
Why must you hate Daron so much?
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>>93905271
>liggers
I don't know why I laughed as much as I did but thanks
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I didn't know Disney cartoons could talk about death and killing that much. How come they seemed so tough on the censors with Gravity Falls?

>>93905303
>>93905342
Nefcy sang that?

>>93905271
She had to stay strong for her people. She was obviously still a mess, as we saw when she was talking to herself and her conversation with Eclipsa.
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>>93905213
well SvFoE is also the best cartoon on the air right now on any network.
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>>93897409
I can't wait for all the new reaction memes, there were so many great ones
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sound familiar?
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>>93905023
>Build up a single villain to be the biggest of big bars, constantly teasing his backstory and plan
>He's finally resurrected, and can set his plan in action
>lol nope magic laser you're dead bitch

Yeah I'm a little bit salty. If he doesn't ever come back, I'm going to be beyond pissed they fucked it up so bad.
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So if they are so afraid of a free Eclipsa why don't they just kill her? Like partially unfreeze her again and do it.
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>>93905415
Funny joke anon.
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>>93905422
No
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>>93904414
This one's better.
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>>93905449
Due Eclipsa probably has the same Lich hax as Star and will rez herself
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>>93905449
I guess that depends on the definition of freedom that applied to the deal.

She's probably not even that bad, just a monster-fucker.
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>>93905503
*Dude
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>>93905109

Bless you my child.
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>>93905109

what's the best way to get past the 1GB downloadthroughbrowser limit
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>>93905557
use usdownloader
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>Next episode
>Marco: Well Star, good thing everything is back to normal. Now I gotta go home and find Jackie
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>>93905433
I mean I've been thinking, if Moon made that deal with Eclipsa that once Toffee was destroyed, she'd be freed. Well Toffee is supposedly dead, but only a crack formed on the crystal. Does that mean that she is going to break free soon, is it the fritz, is Toffee fully destroyed?
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Well OP you know that meme about how Disney villain deaths tend to be terrifying by implication?

Toffee's death was just terrifying. I think it's the second worst onscreen death in a Disney thing ever.
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>>93905635
Marco came to Mewni to meet up with Star, not to save her.

>>93905655
What's the worst?
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>>93905655
Because bad guys don't deserve a "cool leaving this worls". They are supposed to miserably die like bitches they are
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>>93905422
Like that one roman emperor and/or Marie Antoinette
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Once again, here is the magnet link for the torrent because mega is cancer.

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>>93905483
>>93905737
I'm referring to the poem
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>>93905557
If you have a MEGA account you can just login and it'll bypass the 1GB limit it seems.
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>>93905655

Actually never mind, it's the worst. I rewatched Facilier's and it's not actually as bad as I remembered.

Toffee's death takes the cake.
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>>93905796
I don't get it. Can you explain?
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>>93905147
They probably installed a toilet in the royal quarters once they discovered them on earth.
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>>93905655
No kidding, like she literally melted him to death. Wonder what he meant with his "last" words...
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>>93905655
skeleton with goop on it that supposed to resemble Toffee talking in a demonic voice saying how only he knows how it will all end
NEFCY YOU MADWOMAN
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Why wasn't star's mewberty form pink?
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>Ludo leaves to find himself again

Well that's one way to remove him from the season. Guess it's time for his redemption arc?
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>Why do you have to be such a cute idiot?
>SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFF

Jesus Fucking Christ, they actually did it. We all memed about her doing it when we saw her in the trailers with the hoodie but they actually fucking did it.
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>>93905816

For now, I don't think he meant anything. Toffee's final speech sounded like someone who's been in control for his entire life unable to believe that he's no longer in control.

Alternately, all of this was a setup by Eclipsa. The first step in her master plan.

The next part is training the Princess. With no survivors.
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Can someone explain to me the Toffee 9/11 meme?
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>>93905557
jdownloader or megadownloader
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>>93905655
If we can criticize the show as grown ass men who enjoy it, there's no need to try to make up for a on TV kill shot by saying it's in any way brutal. Was it strange to see on Disney? Maybe, but don't pretend it's the first of it's kind or it's somehow literally more gore than anything comparable.
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>>93905809
it's similar to how River kept throwing parties to raise morale, not really big deal, just something I noticed
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>>93905855
I love it when memes become real
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>>93905888
Watch the movie
If you have: its referring to ludo dropping the tower on him.
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>>93905816
>Wonder what he meant with his "last" words...

Seems to me like he was doing the whole "I didn't lose!" right as he lost thing.

It's pretty pathetic.
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Anyone got the mega for season 2?
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>>93905855
What are you referring to?
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>>93905912
That's sort of why people think it was brutal. In a show about lolsorandum shenanigans and shipping, it stood out.
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>>93905839
The easiest explanation for that is the form Star got was not her mewberty form.
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>>93905168
>>93905213
>>93905415
>Best thing
>can't do a over .23 million simply because it's on a premium channel
From a ratings perspective it won't top The Loud House.
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>>93905963
This scene
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Marco became fucking saitama for a moment towards the end. It didnt really work but seriously, I cant even imagine the force he had to build up to punch a hole through someone like that.
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>>93906003
a, thanks
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How come there are people who didn't enjoy the premiere? I thought it was fucking great.

The thing it came short on is the lack of exploration of Toffee's motivations, but that will be most likely on future episodes.
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>>93905912
>grown ass men

I don't have a smug enough reaction image for this
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>>93905724
Nah, they deserve a cool send off since they have to deal with an obsessed moral fag that stalks them 24/7.
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>>93906008
Toffee can regenerate, but he's super squishy.
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>>93906039

Nah man he's dead, we don't need to know why he killed Moon's mom, or why he split off from the main body of monsters

We just need to know what Darkness Waifu's up to
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>>93905655
I just love how they threw out "kill", "die" and "death" so many times on a show that's supposed to be TV-Y7. Also jesus christ, Toffee's death was cool as fuck but I was kind of hoping they wouldn't just immediately kill off his character after that sick ass transformation scene.
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>>93906085
>I just love how they threw out "kill", "die" and "death" so many times on a show that's supposed to be TV-Y7

Rewatching ATLA was weird for me because they were a lot less shy about that stuff than LoK.
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>>93897409
It turns into an anime.
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>>93906085
TV-Y7 is kinda a weird rating. Avatar and Korra were TV-Y7 too. I think as long as there's no violent depiction of human blood, sex, or strong language it's pretty safe in Y7 territory.
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So is Lekhmet dead? As in, dead dead?
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>>93906078
>Honestly thinking he's dead
Foolish
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>>93906085
>Eclipsa breaks out
>Eclipsa was hardcore pro-monster
>Eclipsa brings Toffe back
I'm calling it that it's not over for the lizard.
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>>93897409
This happened. She is the Shining Star thats gonna wins battles through the break of dawn.
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>>93906186
pudding is the key to all of this
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>>93906126
>They were a lot less shy about that stuff than LoK.
I'm still fucking mad about Korra. That show had the potential to be so much better than the original and they killed it by having a cast of the most unlikable dickwads ever.

Literally the anti-Star Vs. I didn't even give a fuck about the shipping because I just didn't care about any of the characters being happy. Not to mention that despite Korra knowing all the bending from the beginning, the action scenes were nowhere near as memorable. Fuck this show.
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>>93906186

He's dead though

Do you think scissorwaifu and Rhombulus will miss their father now that he's dead
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>>93906118
>got cucked by River
>still single as of Game of Flags
>looks just like Jackie

It's like poetry
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Who else here forgot that there is a livestream at 7:30 pm EST on Monday cause I sure did
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>>93906235
>He's dead though
Oh please. Speculating Toffee's gone is one thing but Glossy is just in whatever magic limbo that was until the time is right
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>300 years staring at that damned Snookers bar
>unable to move
>unable to beg
>all you can do is stare at the Snookers bar
>and imagine the taste
>for 300 years
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>>93905635
Jackie who?
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Remember the sad song that Marco was listening to? Apparently it translates out to “Dont leave me, dont leave me here, without you in my life, dont leave me , dont leave me here, without you, i need you by my side, i need you my love.”

(But I'm sure that doesn't mean nothing)
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Eclipsa broke out!
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>>93906239
>>still single as of Game of Flags
That guy was in Game of Flags?
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>>93906322
Reminds me of that joke where a male and female statue were set across from each other in a park, and then when they were briefly given life all they wanted to do was beat the shit out of pigeons.
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>>93906312
>Glossy is just in whatever magic limbo that was until the time is right

Yeah, so he's dead. He will come again to judge the living and the dead, though.
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>>93906239
>River suggesting that Moon have a say since she is know queen
>River apologizing for it
>River calling Moon pal
I fucking love this manlet
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>>93905635
Pretty sure that something major happened that won't be revealed till a future episode.
I mean Macro was super sad and depressed at the start and his mom was going to talk to him. Then next time we see him he's acting normal. So something happened in between we didn't see, and won't know about till most likely a future episode.
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>>93905635
The intro suggests that Marco's room is on Mewni now. He's going to move there to have fun with Star, and Jackie is not invited.

>>93906363
He's the guy Moon's aunt mentions when she tells Moon that it's still not too late to break up with River and start over.
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>>93906118
I am just now realizing I forgot to put the filename here.

Does anybody else think this could be Jackie's dad?
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HACKED
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>>93906363
Nah, he was just mentioned by one of Moon's relatives who didn't approve of River.
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>>93906422

The special seemed to cover a fairly large time period. Something's up.
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>>93906456
Pretty sure it was just 3-4 days
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>>93906363
I believe he was mention at the start of the episode. Where Moons aunt tells her that he's still single.
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>>93906363
Its Mildrew, the guy that Moon's aunt Eatheria tried to hooke moon up with because "Its not too late to start over"
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>>93906008
Are you fucking kidding me? This is what made you realize Marco is one of the baddest asses in this show? He punched a fucking Hydra so hard it reeled back in shock. He hunted down one of the Magic High Commission in a mildly lethal game of tag and came out on top. He fought monsters, some of which are strong enough rip a telephone pole out of the ground easily, got hit by them, and got up and kept fighting. Marco's mentality(and Star being the main character) is the only thing that's holding him back. Punching a hole through some schmuck is child's play for Marco Diaz, God of Combat.
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>>93905655
What a shitty way to go. At the same time I hope he doesn't come back so we get a new villian
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>>93906453
>Does anybody else think this could be Jackie's dad?
No, it's 100% not. But his design is very clearly supposed to be reminiscent of Jackie because they serve the same narrative purpose.
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>>93906085
Hope this is the start of cartoons not being afraid of going a bit dark or show some neat visuals.
Remember Clayton's death? That shit was beautifully done, haunting in its visuals and with great sound.
Or Courage the Cowardly Dog, that shit wasn't shy of tramuatizing kids with its overlapping of early 90s CGI animations or claymation, even while not saying much, it did show a lot.
Nowadays, it seems everyone is so scared of showing kids a bit of a less flowery image life, like they can't handle a bit of fictional death, to grasp the concept and move towards understanding it.
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>>93906039
Not every bad guy needs a deep, elaborate backstory. He was probably just one of the many, many, many monsters who hate Mewmans (for arguably understandable reasons), but he was strong and cunning enough to stand out and rise to the top.
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Man, I love Buff frog
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>>93906312
Glossaryck "died" because the book got burned, coincidentally, Star wrote her own book of spells after Glossaryck "betrayed" them. Keikaku! its all according to it.
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River becomes the embodiment of Mussolini and leads the new mewman fascist state to war
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>>93906220
DOUBLE SUN POWEEEERRRRRRR.
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>>93906186
That clever binch
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>>93906220
Wow, they're starting to get blatant with all this bible shite.
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>>93906522
>Are you sure we can trust him Star? He is a Frogook
Jesus, Nefcy
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>>93906419
He is taken
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>>93906545
>implying the Butterfly monarchy wasn't already inherently dictatorial, corrupt, and unjust
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>What everyone thought season 3 was going to be
YEAAAH STAR MARCO JANNA KELLY TOM AND PONYHEAD ARE FORMING A TEAM AND ARE GOING TO FIGHT TO WIN BACK MEWNI OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON HAHAHA NO JACKIES ALLOWED
>What actually happened
Poof okay everything is fixed already, Toffee is dead Mewni is saved, time to go back to Earth Star and get cucked by Jackie again
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>>93906322
Her lips made her look like one of those cat with tip of their tongue always stickin out.
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>>93906598
For a barbarian warrior he has some real nice handwriting
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>>93906546
Anyone else annoyed by Star growing horns? They're not a part of her body, why'd they grow? Why does she have them in the first place? I always thought that "Don't forget, you have horns too" line in Bloodmoon was off because it's clearly just a hair band.
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>>93906220
>>93906583
Dies Irae is still alive.
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>>93906655

Magical girl outfits anon. Magical girl transformations alter them.
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>>93906632
>time to go back to Earth Star and get cucked by Jackie again

Jackie's the one getting cucked. You know Star fucked Marco right there in that crater with her dad and Buff Frog watching.
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>>93906632
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>>93906655
They grow because magic. The wand has horns now too. It's symbolic, it represents that no matter how girly she behaves Star is not all 'sugar and spice and all things nice'
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>>93906220
>>93906583
>>93906663
>>93906655
>Anyone else annoyed by Star growing horns? They're not a part of her body, why'd they grow?

>New form has more visible devil horns
>Demonic sounding voice
>New outro talks about how she is the fights at the break of dawn to the evening, and is a shining Star
>Lucifer is known as the Bringer of Dawn, Morning and Evening Star, and the Shining Star.

I don't know anon Nefcy just doing bible stuff.
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What the fuck even defines a monster as far as mewmans are concerned? I mean, there's just no consistency to it.
>Weird crystal-headed due with two talking snakes for arms? Not a monster.
>Bipedal goat-man? Not a monster.
>Bipedal frog-man? He's fucking dirty monster.
How the fuck does that make sense?
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New Among Amigos page.

I'm calling bullshit right now. This fucking kid made her cum before him on his FIRST TIME!
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>>93906699
>Season 1
>clearly fucked in the crater

>Season 2
>no crater

>Season 3
>crater

Therefore fucking
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>>93906228
>Two bitches that barely interacted in any meaningful way end up together at the end with no foreshadowing or buildup, just to fulfill some agenda.
Honestly, it's hard to believe Korra was made by the same guys that made Avatar, pretty much everything that made Avatar great, that the creators acknowledged and were happy about in the making of is gone from Korra and in a more child-like package as well. Korra, despite its more "mature" themes and setting, manages to feel more childish than Avatar, a show with a main cast younger than Korra's
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>>93906655
Her clothing has always changed during transformations. The horns themselves turned into antennae during Mewberty.
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>>93906718

A monster is any member of the indigenous population of Mewni, defined as "anyone what doesn't look mewman".

Rhombulus and Lekhmet aren't monsters, because they were created by Glossaryck.
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>>93906632
>Poof okay everything is fixed already
It took 5 episodes anon, just because you got to watch them all at once doesn't mean everything happened all at once.
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>>93906718
I'm not entirely sure, but I think "monsters" in this case are just the native inhabitants on Mewni who got ousted.
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>>93906718
>>Weird crystal-headed due with two talking snakes for arms? Not a monster.
>>Bipedal goat-man? Not a monster.
The MHC are Glossaryck's creations/children. I think the monster is anybody who resides on the main plane of Mewni but isn't humanoid, the native dwellers before they came in. Like Tom isn't considered a monster either
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>>93906718
If Glossaryck made it, then it's not a monster.
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There has to be a loophole. I refuse to believe Toffee went out that quickly and that weak. My theory is Star was the one to kill Toffee, not Moon, so the contract isn't fulfilled yet.
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>>93906632
Not possible. The leading theme of this show is that Star gets everything she want's eventually no matter how much she's fucked up by being OP. Jackie doesn't stand a chance
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>>93906718

The magical high commission is a council of powerful beings all birthed by Glossaryk, the trainer of Queens, to control and protect all magic in Mewni.

Monsters are filthy sub mew-man animals who need to surrender rightful corn to the butterflies.
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>>93906546
That fucking smile. Gets me every time.
Like, it's not an evil smile, it's just a plain crazy look.
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>>93906768
>The season is going to open up with a two hour long movie!
>Just kidding goy, you're actually already 1/4 through the season already
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>>93906790
>ousted

Pls anon, there's been enough historical revisionism. Call it what it was: an ethnic purge. The Mewni royal family can't keep dressing up history with songstrels and children's books.

#TruthToPower #MonsterLivesMatter
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>>93906718
They're not necessarily from Mewni. Non Mewmans from Mewni are monsters, non Mewmans from other dimensions are just other dimensional creatures.

Of course this is muddied by the fact that mermaids and pony heads are from Mewni.
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Wait, so Toffee was just some monster who was a little smarter than everyone else?

That's...so underwhelming.
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>>93906546
https://youtu.be/I0WaiRulyoY?t=1m

All I could think of
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>>93906220
>>93906583
>>93906655
Dies Irae anon must have a smug ass face right now.
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>>93906870
Yeah, as much as people built up Toffee in their headcanon, he ended up being a very shallow villain.
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>>93906809

Nah nigga. You can't tease a new character all season and not pay off by keeping her trapped as a technicality.
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>>93906723
sensitive bugs are sensitive
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>>93906598
>Stupid, Sexy River!
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>>93906723
>I'm calling bullshit right now. This fucking kid made her cum before him on his FIRST TIME!
What is every porno comic/doujin ever.
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>>93906870
>Wait, so Toffee was just some monster who was a little smarter than everyone else?
>That's...so underwhelming.
Why? Would Toffee being the chosen one destined to bring doom to Mewni make him more exciting. Him being nothing but an ordinary but ambitious monster just makes him all the more terrifying as he starts doing crazy stuff like absorbing the wand's power and leading an army. We also don't know his actual backstory yet, just that he has some plan in motion.
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>>93906718

Was thinking the same thing. For that matter, Hekapoo isn't human either considering her powers and immortality. I'm guessing since they were constructs made by Glossarick, they aren't considered monsters.
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>>93906870
He and Rasticore were lizards, which for some reason meant that they were immortal.

Im sure we get some more backstory S3 and S4.
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>>93906856
Stop being salty because you didn't know what a multi-episode tv movie was.
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>>93906870
He was one of their generals.

>>93906632
Keep telling yourself that, buddy.
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>>93906939
I don't think I ever met a girl who said she had an amazing first time. I think the best a girl can hope for is it being an emotional experience at best.
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>>93906723
Oh shit, he finally updated? time to fap.
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>>93906956

But can a construct... love?
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Is it me, or were there fewer tadpoles this time around?
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>Villain runs circles around everyone

>Predicts others action like a chessmaster

>Has everything sown up

>Gets handed the idiot ball in the final minutes, just so he can be defeated

I mean, it's a kid show and all, but still. I was hoping for something a little more complicated from Toffee.

This is like Aizen's defeat all over again.
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>>93906723
I don't get why this is portrayed as a good thing, especially if you have a lazy piece of shit girlfriend who just lays there the entire time. I fucking hate women.
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>>93907017
Only if Glossaryck made it for that.

Which has pretty gross implications for Hekapoo if you want to go in that direction.
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>>93907041
>handed the idiot ball

I don't think he could have predicted Star having the balls to kill him, anon. Or surviving death.

Shit came so far out of left field I was all wait that's dumb
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>>93907028
It seems to me like there were more than in the babsitting episode, but not as many as when he first got them.
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>>93907028
I think they were all there. I just can't wait for Katrina to develop into a cute frog girl.
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>>93907041
>Gets handed the idiot ball in the final minutes, just so he can be defeated

How was he handed the idiot ball? Star was just so super OP that all of his plans were rendered meaningless in the face of her strength.
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>>93907041
>>Gets handed the idiot ball in the final minutes, just so he can be defeated
I don't see where you're getting this from. Toffee had fucking won, magic was gone from the universe, he was all but immortal, nothing could stand in his way. There's no way he could have known that Glossaryk left behind a seed of magic that would let Star beat him.
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>>93907087
Wow your even worse than a normal furry, congrats
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>>93907065

Remember, it's only rapey if you make it rapey.

But seriously I was thinking more about Rhombulus and Lekhmet.
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>>93907101

Why leave any chance at all of them coming back? Just sending them elsewhere is a terrible idea.
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>>93907087
Have you seen Katrina's muscles? She'll be the Buffest Frog.
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>>93906723

He blew the first round on the handjob, remember?

Second round often takes more effort.
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>>93907101

Exactly, this.

Glossaryck PLANTED the seed of magic that Star dipped down to get and caused her to not die.
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>>93897409
check shadbase
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>>93906997
What does that have to do with anything?
This is porn, not reality, was that the first glimpse of drawn lewd you've ever seen?
Girls cumming on the guy's first time is par for the course, as well as girls cumming multiple times over a single session and guys having no refractory period.
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>>93907141
What? Toffee didn't send her anywhere, she was trapped within wherever magic comes from after destroying Ludo's wand arm.
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>>93906327
Jackie Chan, Marco has a huge fan of him.
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>>93907141

Drowning in his corrupt gunk should have killed her.

Also we don't know how he killed Moon's mom. Maybe he used the Blackjizz Arcana just like he did on Star.
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>>93907041
He wasn't handed the idiot ball, he was simply outplayed by Glossaryk.
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>>93907141
They were pretty fucking dead. I don't know how exactly Toffee could've made them more dead.

It's just that Star is retardedly powerful.
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>>93907225

Nah man. Glossaryck planned ahead. She's strong, but she's not that strong on her own.

Guys

You guys

What if freeing Eclipsa was the next step in Glossaryck's master plan?
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>>93907060

Yes
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>>93907123
Woah there anon, liking best girl does not make you a furry. You can't just insult Tsu like that.
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Are bigamy and bestiality allowed in Mewni?
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>>93907250
>What if freeing Eclipsa was the next step in Glossaryck's master plan?
Couldn't Glossaryk just order her release? The High Commission might not fall under his authority but they'd definitely take his word under advisement. No if Glossaryk is planning something with Eclipsa it's more than just freeing her.
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>>93907250
>What if freeing Eclipsa was the next step in Glossaryck's master plan?
I'm pretty sure it was Glossayrck who made her chapter forbidden. He himself is pretty hesitant about teaching Star anything in there. Everything he's doing might be a plan to ultimately defeat Eclipsa, assuming he really can see far into the future.
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>it's a "Star's family fucks up" episode
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>>93907303
He's the king, he can make the laws.
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>>93907141
>Why leave any chance at all of them coming back? Just sending them elsewhere is a terrible idea.
Star was supposed to be dead, trapped in the wand goop. How could he have foreseen getting outplayed by Glossaryck?
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>>93906454

Did they fuck?
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>>93907303
I love River and Marco, they're both totally normal dudes but every once in a while they do these absolutely badass things like it's nothing.
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>>93907303
Their not human so is it beastiality?
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>muh Star is too powerful it's retarded
No shit, who do you think this show is about? She was already shown to be as powerful as Eclipsa in that one evaluation episode. Her strength has been developed properly for a while now
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I remember all the theorycrafting we had going on.

>Is he connected to the Royal Family?

>Is he a student of Eclipsa?

>Did he know Moon when they were younger?

>Does something make him super special?

Then it turns out he's just a guy.
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>>93907401
>Not every cartoon can pander to Trump Voters like The Loud House
Wanna try that sentence again?
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>>93906870
Yep. Just a random monster who was cunning enough to rise to the top of the ranks. He managed to murder royalty and probably thought that he was destined to change the world. Then Moon chopped off his finger and, in an instant, he was reduced back to being a normal monster without army or immortality.
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>>93907321

He was hesitant about teaching Star anything in her chapter, but letting her SEE the chapter was part of his plan. What if he's trying to make her what Eclipsa wasn't? They spent the whole season comparing Star and Eclipsa to begin with.

Like yeah I know Eclipsa's heavily implied not to be turboevil, but the fact that she was incredibly quirky and personable during her speaking part in the premiere has put me back on edge.
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>>93906322
300 Years have passed... But I do not age.
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>>93907418
Not every cartoon can pander to the alt-right like The Loud House
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>>93907401
How does Loud House pander to Trump supporters?
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>>93907355

Glossaryck? You mean a being older and more knowledgeable than all of them?

Goodness know, how could such a person possibly be planning anything.
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>>93907250
I'm half convinced that everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING that has happened; including Toffee's rise, moons mom dying etc is all part of Glossy's plan to kill Eclipsa.

Eclipsa was born of darkness, he needed to wait for a girl to be born of light. Star is of course that girl and now all the pieces are in place and the game can truly start.

Plus the revelation, that he knew Star's grandma was going to get impaled though the heart, and yet did nothing to stop it...could be an interesting thing to watch play out.
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>>93907415
He was an immortal general in the monster army who had his respect and authority stripped away after moon bested him. Not really 'just a guy'
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>>93907444
>Not every cartoon can pander to the alt-right like The Loud House
You sure you got that right?
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>>93907401
>the cartoon that panders to trump voters has one of the sisters be gay or at least bisexual

hmm, I dunno about that. not saying trump supporters aren't lgbt friendly, but I highly doubt the show would purposefully pander to both.
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>>93907368
>Heartless
>Bleeding
>Being killed with a normal sword
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>>93907444
How does a show with a homosexual interracial couple, pedophilia, regular race mixing, and incest pander to the alt right?
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>>93907401
Better than pandering to Hillary voters like the Hilldawg episode.
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>>93907415
That's fine with me, honestly. I was getting annoyed with how "untouchable" he seemed.
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>>93907415
He was a general of an immortal monster army which disbanded because of Eclipsa's immortal-monster-killing spell. His agenda seems to be getting rid of that magic and getting back his army
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Why did Toffee do it? Why did he kill Moons mama? Why did he want to go to war?
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>>93907472
Not just his respect and authority, but his ego. He truly believed he was immortal right up until the Darkest Spell happened.
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>>93904414
The way she said it REALLY sold the double entendre.

With the random creaking sound being the perfect boner joke
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>>93907465
Or it could just be his plan to train Star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir9u5wdp9H8
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>>93907502

>race-mixing

You're not really mixing anything, two guys can't make a kid.
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>>93907389
>She was already shown to be as powerful as Eclipsa in that one evaluation episode
So it makes better sense for the show to have Eclipsa as the main villain because she's just as powerful as Star AND (presumably) smarter with more experience.

So Star won't be able to just rely on pure power against her. She'd have to be smarter and stop being pigheaded with making her decisions.
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>>93907507
That episode gets more hate than it deserves
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>>93907507
>Better than pandering to Hillary voters like the Hilldawg episode.
I legitimately can't tell if you're being serious or not. You do realize Loud House is progressive as fuck right? They just made one of the sisters gay and one of the characters has two gay fathers.
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>>93907472

Why didn't they just rush her? Clearly that spell took a lot out of her.
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So does Glossaryck truly not give a shit what happens or is he playing 4d chess?
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>>93907523
He probably killed her because she shot a laserbeam at him.
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>>93907401
I give this bait a 8/10. Pretty good stuff honestly.
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>>93906546
the smile gets me everytime
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>>93907563
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>>93907523
>Why did Toffee do it? Why did he kill Moons mama? Why did he want to go to war?

He killed Moon's mom because she stepped to him.

He went to war because monsters have beef against Mewmans.
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>>93907594
That's right, I forgot. Alfonso is at least bi.
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>>93907563

Probably bi, considering she was after the english tutor's dick.
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>>93907523
Because monsters and mewmans hate each other. What Toffee was in charge of was basically just a monster rebel group who wanted to take down their enemy once and for all.

Toffee didn't realize (or simply didn't care) that the queen he assassinated was on the verge of signing a peace treaty with the monsters. As a result of his actions, Moon threw out the treaty and set monster rights back hundreds of years.
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>>93907507
Hildawg episode? Which one?
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>>93907472
He literally just a guy, albeit a regenerating guy.
He killed moons mom just for yucks and his entire plan was to remove magic so he could go back to trying to exterminate mewni with a monster army.
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>>93907439
Time has lost it's effect on me
Yet... the hunger continues
The snookers bar chokes the past, present and future
The flavor is lost
Gotta get the snack, the B4 snack, before Rhombus comes back
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>MUH GLOSSODICK
He's dead you idiots. Good riddance he was a shit character and those pudding sight gags were annoying.
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>>93907563
Don't forget the Down syndrome kid.
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>>93907615
>Probably bi, considering she was after the english tutor's dick.
I hate this shit. Even LGBT people struggle with accepting bisexuals are a real thing. I think that English tutor episode was just an oversight, before they decided they wanted to pander harder.
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>>93907571

It looks like all his talk about serving the book is a lie. He's loyal to Star.
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>>93907627
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>>93907507
I'm still confused how anyone came to the conclusion that this ep was about Hillary.
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Don't mind me I just wanted to post deafbro art
Queen Eclipsa will be coming from an eclipse

In news, a solar eclipse will be coming in United States on August 21th, 2017. But Eclipsa will be breaking free from the crystal prison, she derives her power from an eclipse at the same time.
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>>93905839
Because Super Mewman Rosé is only a form obtainable from a non Mewman possessing a Mewman body.
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>>93907619
Fetch
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>>93906220
Star is the cosmic goddess Babalon
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>>93907656
is that her lip or is her tongue out
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>>93907640

If someone enjoys fucking both sexes, there's not really something else to call them.
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>>93907685
I'm going to say tounge because is cuter
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>>93907594
holy shit i just immediatly lost all respect for nefcy wtf fucking propaganda pushing whore. I wonder how much the stupid bitch was paid to sneak this disgusting shit in
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>>93906008
After binge watching My Hero Academia twice, I fully expected Marco to have a broken arm afterwards.
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>>93907687
>If someone enjoys fucking both sexes, there's not really something else to call them.
That's the problem, just about nobody actually does. Every "bi" person seems to have a strong preference and the people who do actually fuck everybody are normally damaged in a major way.
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>>93907715
>the show teaches that genocide is bad and that Star and Marco should bang
>implying it wasn't propaganda fro the get go
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>>93907492
>shadman
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>>93907472
They were all immortal. Toffee himself doesn't have any special power for his race since the other regenerated just as fast as him. It just seemed that Toffee was special because Rastacore is missing his hand and is taking him months to recover from Star blasting him but that could be due to anything that happened in the decades between.
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>>93907727
Let's not ruin the thread.
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>>93907635
>Seriously thinking Glossaryck is dead
Man, Toffee is one thing but I hope no one else here is as retarded as you.
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>>93907439
>>93907627
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>>93907725
Not everybody is made of glass like Deku.

I was legit more impressed that Marco was unharmed after being thrown into that stone wall.
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>>93907715
probs bait, but this show is much more "degenerate" than that my f.am
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>>93907770
too late
>>93907492
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>>93907725
I'm still hoping we get a good fight scene with Marco at some point. It's kinda lame that all the fight scenes are just resolved with magic blasts. I hope we get another Hekapoo episode, having a normal human fight a god-like entity is pretty fun.
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>>93906545
I need someone to redraw this as a mussolini or hitler speech, marco could be goebbels
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>>93906493
Fuck this show, Jackie doesn't deserve this
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>>93907540
What if the main villain IS Star? Maybe Nefcy implied that by the first title before she changed it.
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>>93907830
This is your fault for backing the wrong horse in the first place
>>
I missed the first 20 minutes, but...

>Flashback to Queen Moon using black magic to cut off Toffee's finger. Her veins go all black, suggesting that there's probably consequences to her continued use of this type of spell.
>Toffee-possessed Ludo burns book (killing Glosyric maybe?)
>Gets mad, listens to wand embedded in his hand, goes off and conquers castle from King. Queen Moon is nowhere around.
>King and Marco (who used dimensional scissors to travel to the castle to deliver Star some cereal) get sent to dungeon.
>Marco breaks out using stick of butter, forms resistance with a bunch of retarded artists living in the air ducts
>Meanwhile, Star and Moon are in hiding with Buttfrog. Star runs away because she legit wants to fight Toffee while her mom just wants to run forever.
>Star confronts Ludo without wand, gets sent to dungeon.
>Marco + Star reunite, break out.
>Star confronts Ludo a second time, convinces him that Toffee's in the wand
>Uses whispering spell to destroy the wand half in his hand
>Gets stuck in the broken wand half with Toffee
>Toffee bargains with Queen Moon for his finger back, offering up Star in exchange
>She accepts, he doesn't hold on his promise
>Star breaks out of wand using "dip down", goes super saiyan
>Maximized disintegrate, turns Toffee into black-goop covered Skeleton
>He then gets crushed by a pillar pushed by Ludo
>Also the wand is back
>Also scene featuring evil queen chick cracking her ice prison


Long and short: things are going to be mostly back to normal now. Mostly
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>>93907830
>implying Marco isn't going to eventually shit on Star's feelings as well
>implying Star and Jackie aren't going to spend season 4 flirting vaguely then eventually hook up out of nowhere
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I'm going to keep posting deafbro art
Star Butterfly has made a new wand herself

In final “The Battle for Mewni” episode, Star makes a new upgrade wand is successful when she gains new a Mewberty form during Toffee’s final defeat.
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>>93907861
>implying Marco isn't going to eventually shit on Star's feelings as well
I can't ever see Marco doing that
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>>93907848
Jackie shouldn't just be some ship machine or a symbol for something.
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Punished Toffee is the real tragedy
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>>93897409
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>>93907765
Toffee and Rasticore seemed to be showing off their regenerative abilities. It definitely seemed like it was the only reason half the monster army was following them. I'm guessing it wasn't a common ability among Septarians, at least not at that level. Rasticore certainly seems to have more trouble with it in the present than he did under Toffee.
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>>93907879
Not intentionally, but then again why would he shit on jackies feelings intentionally either?
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>>93907844
Turns out star actually was an autistic child hiogh on meth causing struggles in her city
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>>93907853

Even Maximized Disintegrate wouldn't kill a creature with Regeneration 1, let alone whatever the fuck it is Toffee had.

Only a death effect or applying their weakness can do that.

Either Toffee's Regeneration was keyed to Good as a weakness, or Star just blew him the fuck out so hard it overrode his Regeneration.
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>>93907479
Why wouldn't they? They even had an autistic portrayed positively and not as a joke to pander to their core adult fanbase. Pander to everyone and you'll get monster ratings
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So... how can they develop Marco and Star's relationship further? Star is clearly head over heels in love with Marco, and the only barrier between them is that Marco is dating and doesn't seem 100% convinced of who he cares more for. But, maybe he does know that he'd rather be with Star which would mean all that's left is to break up with Jackie.

Does anyone else feel like Marco should've acted a little more awkwardly around Star? Or do you think they just had him ignore those complicated feelings for the sake of simplicity in these more plot-focused episodes and that the spaghetti will come later?
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>>93907937
What do you describe as shitting on though? Is there no way for them to break up amicably? Also, Jackie was always going to be a plot device. You all just didn't want to see it
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>>93906220
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Marco and Star come back to happy hug again!

In “The Battle for Mewni” episode, Marco rescues to release Star in the dungeon and they are hugging together. That is so much cuteness and happiness!!
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>>93907983

Well, Star's more open about her attraction to him now. He's probably just ignoring it for now.
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>>93906723
on /rule34/ on the forbidden chan,
the next two pages were already posted
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>>93907948
Toffee is obviously alive and is regenerating cell by cell
His redemption arc will start in season 4 as he adapts to a world where monster and mumen are at peace
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>>93907936
Heinous indicated in that early episode that all lizards could do it

>>93907983
There is no room for those feelings during that point but Star is a lot more subtle/obvious about how she feels now
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>>93907983
They'll mostly ignore Star's side of things for a while and focus on Marco & Jackie growing more awkward until they break up. Marco won't be ready for another relationship after that but Star will be willing to wait for him.
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>>93907804
I remember someone posting this once when talking about a Marco fight scene. I'd be down for something like it.

http://youtubedoubler.com/lv7J
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>>93908038

And by "wait for him" you mean "execute preemptive droit de seigneur" whether he's ready or not, right?
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>>93908038
>Marco won't be ready for another relationship after that but Star will be willing to wait for him.

Yeah, they'll just have best friends sex, no romantic relationship at all.
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>>93908011
Platonic and still with Jackie
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>>93907970
Who's the autistic?
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What is this part going to change to?
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>>93908085
>best friends sex

Objectively the best kind
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>>93908032
>Heinous indicated in that early episode that all lizards could do it
Yeah but could they do it instantly? I dunno, Toffee and Rasticore really hyped that ability up. All it took was moon going: "no, you can't regenerate instantly" to scatter Toffee's entire army.
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>>93908097
That platonic sex scene was pushing it though
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>>93908111

Considering the S2 intro is an exact duplicate of the S1 intro, probably nothing
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>>93908111
Probably just keep it, it's not a big deal. Or possibly Eclipsa
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>>93908111
Probably Eclipsa since Heinous is already in the opening.
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A double barrier between Star and Marco

During “The Battle of Mewni” episode of Season 3 premiere, Star and Marco are struggling to come to themselves together from a double barrier between. That’s challenge archnemesis Ludo in an effort to save her family and kingdom.

>>93908097
Let the deaf semi-autistic guy have his ship, dude
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>>93907948
Did you not catch the hint that the spell star used was the spell that Moon tried to cast at Toffee after he regenerated back? Shit was high tier, insta kill, stops regen, necrotic shit, yo! Moon did the encantation and star powered it up and aimed properly.
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>>93907983
Marco acted alright. He's too busy thinking about how Star is gone for good to worry about her confession, it's too soon. Then when she's in danger and almost dies it makes sense he stops being an overly self conscious speed and doesn't worry about that at all.
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>>93908165

Man Ludo's rapidly going the way of Ice King. I don't see him being villainous anymo.
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>>93897409
Still no 1080p release for the movie?
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So who should die next
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>>93908210
Honestly the webrips were alright quality. I'm normally pretty autistic about that but I didn't mind at all.
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>>93908215
me
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>>93908176

Nah dude. The Darkest Spell looks different from what Star did. All dark and shit..

Whatever Star did was on the same order as what Eclipsa gave to Moon, or stronger, but it's not the same spell. It's the spell Glossaryck prepped for her.
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>>93908196
Well he did have a similar look in the movie with the beard and crown he wore
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>>93908231
Well every other release I downloaded is 1080p. Just trying to stay consistent.
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>>93908231
People want the version without ads. I want what they want
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>>93906220

I'm not even gonna argue with people whether the ending was a big deus ex machina or not. That transformation was just too cool for me to care.
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>>93907936
All the monsters in the army feared for their own lives after seeing how even Toffee couldn't heal. I think they all had some regenerative ability cause they're lizards
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>>93908215
Moon or River. I'm actually a little surprised that they both made through the movie DESU.
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>>93906723
This is too fucking cute
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Morty and Rick interrupt Star and Marco

Star and Marco watch the television show at the living room. Suddenly, they stare at two strange people are young boy and adult man arrive at them from passing through the portal.
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>>93907782
Deku isn't really made of glass so much as a fucking nitwit when it comes to One For All.

Also; REALLY want Marco to get a power up this season, but it's absolutely useless. Like, early episode Spirit Gun useless
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Who do I have to make a dark contract with to get full versions of Star's princess song and the new ending.
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>>93907041
Well, he seemed sure Star was dead or otherwise gone forever.
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>>93908290
I fucking hate when women do this
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>>93908109
Ronnie Anne's cousin
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>>93908281
>I'm not even gonna argue with people whether the ending was a big deus ex machina or not.
That would imply it came out of nowhere. It was established before that Star could "dip down" and perform magic and Glossayrk even prepared that "magic pudding ball" beforehand for Star to find in the stew. It's also established that the Butterfly family has that super state where they can use powerful magic.

It wasn't a Deus Ex Machina at all
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>>93908215
River
Buff frog takes his place as king
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>>93908215
Jackie.

Star can use the same spell she used on Toffee.
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Star Butterfly dislikes something

Star don’t like something in Mewni and Earth:
She has a greatest fear of St. Olga’s Reform School for Wayward Princesses.
She looks mean and rude people. That’s not good.
She is boredom at school and her parents talk about their lectures because she don’t want to become a queen for the future.
She don’t want to hang out with Tom Lucitor is her ex-boyfriend.
She gets spells going wrong sometime.
She don’t tell someone about Marco. He is her best friend since she has a secret crush on him.
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>>93908289
I think Moon still has a chance
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>>93908340
>>93908281
>people acting like DEM is automatically bad

Jesus christ
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>Moon comes out clean to Star that she isn't the warrior princess she thought she was
>entire tapestry she has in the grandma room is a lie
>she never fought Toffee in pitch combat and never intended to kill him at all out of fear of reviving Eclipsa
>probably routed and hunted the other monsters down after they abandoned Toffee
>yfw Eclipsa's tapestry is a lie too
>yfw her monster lover was actually mewman/human and was just cursed to look like a monster
>yfw Eclipsa dindu nuffin
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>>93908334
I thought he was just a weirdo
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>>93908135
C'mon its 2017, times have changed
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>>93907999
She has her own merits, everyone likes to think she doesn't exist as her own person even though Tom, stars ex mind you, does.
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>>93908215
Janna
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>>93908380
It's pretty clear that there are some things about Eclipsa that are very likely embellished but she did something to end up in that crystal
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>>93908312
Ruberiot's reaction to this was gold.
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What do you think this spell is called?
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>>93908371
This. The best part of shonenshit or shojoshit is when the hero dips down deep and goes all out
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>>93906235
Glossaryck and the book are intrinsically linked to the magic of the Butterfly family, and Star just evoked the primal, original, ancestral source of that magic. She will bring him back.
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Sad Star saw Marco with All-Seeing Eye of her wand

After Star went away from Earth and came back to Mewni, Star becomes sad while she saw Marco is sad too with All-Seeing Eye of her wand.
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>>93908415
Rhombulus crystallized a pair of twins because he didn't know which one was good and which one was evil.

He's definitely mentally unstable.
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>>93908399
Because Tom's appearance have him grow and change from his initial one. He went from seeming like a douchey and similar plot device to a decent guy trying to become more decent. Everything about Jackie's appearance and existence centers completely around her relationship with Marco.
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>>93908435

"Unicorn fuck my shit up sparkle blast"
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>>93908435
>The inevitable heat death of the universe
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>>93908380
Reminder that Star's tapestry is being formed right now and is wearing the same clothes she has now, meaning Star will become a young queen just like her mother, and just like Moon's mother she will be DED
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>>93908435
The "Fuck you, I'm not dead, you are"
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>>93908435
I think that one's a new one. Star's probably going to call it something stupid because she's a 14 year old retard.
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>>93908435

Protagonist blast
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>>93908435
"The Pleasure of Cumming Inside Someone" Beam
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>>93908481
So who will kill Moon?
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>>93908468
But that can change
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>>93908435
"Dios Ex Mariposa"
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>>93908435
>yfw this is the true form of the FIRST QUEEN
>yfw Eclipsa and Star battle in their Mewni forms
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>>93908481
Disney loves their dead mothers, and it's clear that Moon's arm is completely fucked up and that River "isn't fit to rule". Season 4 might literally be Star and Marco ruling Mewni together and basically redoing what Moon did when she took over in a fight against Toffee.
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>>93908435
"I am filled with magic, fuck you"
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>>93908435
Power Word: Fuck You
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>>93908435
Obviously foreshadows the Mega Love Blast she and Marco will perform once he reciprocates her love.
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Which do you like better, Purple Star or Gold Star?
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>>93908435
>I lived, bitch
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How do you think will Ludo save himself and stop feeling worthless?
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>>93908511
I can't see it happening
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>>93908435
"Fuck you and everything in your general direction"
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So how will we react when Eclipsa resurrects Toffee and upgrades him from Lizard to Dragon?
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>>93908290

Yeah it's honestly the cutest doujin I've read. I can't even bring myself to jerk off to it.
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>>93908508
She'll choke to death during dinner one evening.
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>>93908512
winner
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>>93908548
Dark Star
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>>93908435
Fuck yo couch nigga
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request me up f a m
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>>93908553
He's gone on a spiritual journey in the void. Once he achieves enlightenment he will return as a proper heir to the Avarius Kingdom.
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You guys, Toffee was never the main villain.

In this kind of show, the main villain usually gives a speech about why they're doing what they're doing. This is the statement of the thesis. The statement of the thesis usually goes "This world is evil and should be destroyed because it's evil."

Usually this speech takes place at the darkest hour in the finale, when everyone's down for the count and a bunch of people are dead.

The hero then refutes the thesis with a counterthesis, which usually goes "No this world is good and should be saved because love exists."

And then one of two things happens: either the villain is obliterated or redeemed.

Toffee's death was more appropriate to a monster of the week than a main villain. The statement of the thesis and the refutation of the thesis would have to take place between Eclipsa and Star in a future season, if Nefcy really intends to do a Westernized magical girl show.

I'm talking out of my ass lmao
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Do you think Marco got a little turned on when he realized Star stole one of his hoodies before leaving?
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>>93908566
Fuck this show if they give her absolutely nothing but let the fucking goblin dog guy in the intro.
Why is it so goddamn hard to make an actual character out of the "incorrect" love interest in the eyes of everyone
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>I’ve literally started a count of all the times I’ve had to draw a character crying in season 3 and it’s been A LOT so far.
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>>93908508
Star will when she embraces the forces of evil
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>>93908371

Yeah, fags don't understand, tropes can still be executed well. Just depends on the talent of those writing the show.
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>>93908606
>Toffee
>dead
Clearly I'm going to have to TEACH you about real villains.
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>>93908604
Marco and Star playing a real version of Puddle Defender
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>>93908471
>>93908482
>>93908518
>>93908526
>>93908569
>>93908599
Judging by this, just name it "Fuck". That's all you'll have time to say anyway before she blows you the fuck out.
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>Toffee
>dead
Have you learned NOTHING?
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>>93908651

Nah nigga. That nigga's worse than dead. He's humiliated.
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>>93901455
>that obvious implication that they have hot Mewman threesomes on the bed
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>>93907830
Pft. Jackie has it easy. She only became aware of Marco in the past year, while Janna has been cucked for 10 years straight.
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>>93908606
Toffee kind of approaches a thesis in that moment he talks under his breath about the wand with Ludo, but yeah Toffee wasn't the true boss
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I love how she doesn't really need to hide her lust anymore
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What do you think Star Butterfly's worst fear is?

What do you think turns her on?
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>actors catches cancer
>writers have to kill his character off so production doesn't slow down when he dies
Ruined it.
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>>93908621
I want to remind everybody that they said a while ago that movie premiere was going to look like we were so innocent compared to the rest of season 3
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>>93908614
>goblin dogs in
>roast beef out
What did Mercy mean by this
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did she have to back up like that?
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>>93908727
how many times did she call him cute in the movie?
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>>93908726
Toffee the kinda ligger that thinks he's big, but he's just a pawn in a greater scheme. It wouldn't surprise me if Eclipsa gave the Septarians regeneration abilities hundreds of years ago after abandoning Mewni and turning to monsters. It would be pretty darn funny to me if she planned her escape from the very beginning.
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>>93908777
>>>
> Anonymous 07/16/17(Sun)02:19:40 No.93908777 ▶
>>>93908727
>how many times did she call him cute in the movie?
Once, then she took a big sniff of his jacket
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>>93908777

Like twice?
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>>93908772
Her first instinct when on a table surrounded by men
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>>93908772
Man...she looks good for being in her late 40's early 50's in the present day.
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>>93908787

I doubt Toffee was even a pawn. He was just a big badass ligga who happened to get caught in the middle of a chess game being played by the real heavyweights.
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>>93908716
But that's okay because Janna does it to herself and is shit

>>93908614
If you make the 'incorrect' character too much of a character, that means you have to devote too much to that character which is, ultimately, a waste of time if you've decided on an endgame. The best you can do is to make her "likable enough"
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>>93908810
She aged well but she definitely got a bit more... unhinged.
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>>93908772
I think the guard dude is the same one that babysat Star and taught her how to snap necks of stuff toys.
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>>93907656
I don't even watch this show, but damn do I dig her design.
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>>93908787
Eclipsa is a good girl she dindunuffin
Moon realising Monsters aren't evil is the build up to her being exonerated for race mixing
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>>93908508

She will be corrupted and end up being controlled by Eclipsa. During a fight with Star she will regain her senses momentarily and attempt to take out herself and Eclipsa in a giant magical blast.
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>>93908608
>she even sniff it
i hope
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>>93908822
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>>93908870

Plot twist
>Monsters aren't evil
>But Eclipsa is
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>>93908789
>Once, then she took a big sniff of his jacket
Pathetic shipperfags on tumblr are already losing their shit over it:
https://make-some-manna.tumblr.com/post/163043226045/oh-sure-when-star-smells-marco-and-doesnt-even
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>>93908752
What!?
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>>93907128
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>>93908752
WHAT
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>>93908822
That would be even more funny.

>>93908870
Moon realizing not all monsters are evil is explicitly setting herself up to be killed by Eclipsa when she puts on her coy demeanor and pretends she's doing nothing wrong. The moment a fraction of doubt enters Moon's mind that perhaps Eclipsa was just doing something different is the moment she's going to execute Moon and take back her crown to rule Mewni again.
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>>93908842
Which begs the question. What did she do..or witness that made her lose her marbles?
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>>93908752
RIP Robbie Rotten
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>>93908810
Just think shes even older than Moon.
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>>93908435
B E G O N E
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>>93908921
Eclipsa abdicated herself from the throne. I get revenge on Mewni but ruling it again doesn't seem right.
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>>93908909
>>93908918
Michael C. Hall "beat" cancer back in 2010. Signs of it are coming back. Cancer also killed his father. MCH has explicitly stated he's always felt like death is haunting him. He ironically was cast as the lead in David Bowie's musical "Lazarus", and then Bowie went ahead and died during it.

All MCH has with him is death, from Dexter to Toffee.
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>>93908935
I think Moon may have banished her to another dimension.
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just watched it and im still lost
how the fuck does the magic work
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>>93908984

What if she's going to replace Glossaryck as Star's mentor?
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>>93908752

You mean Micheal C Hall? He was treated for cancer back in 2010, but apparently has been cancer free since then. Got a source?
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Anyone else Toffee was really cool? The way he looks so cool while regenerating and beating up Moon, then telling Ludo no?
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>>93909052
"it's magic i ain't gotta explain shit nigga"
-glossaryk
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>>93909052
This image upsets me for some reason.
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>>93909052
It's magic. They ain't gotta to explain shit.
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Young River is such a cute. Also he sounds way too much like Ron, it's weird.
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>>93908993

Damn. That's spooky.
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>>93908215
Moon looks like she's dying from magic aids.
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Name ONE (1) other TV-Y7 show where the protagonist commits suicide on-screen.
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>>93908752
>>93908993
Crap, I was wondering why Toffee's end simultaneously felt like it had enough closure and not enough closure to be a perma-death, to the point that I legitimately couldn't tell if they were trying for ambiguity or certainty on whether or not Toffee was never going to return. Now it seems like it may have been intentional.
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>>93909062

He's supposed to be cool, in both senses of the word. That's why him completely losing his composure when Star obliterated him was so satisfying.

Ligga planned for everything but Star.
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>>93908427
Can you imagine the emails Disney would get if he hadn't explicitly claimed it was about sleep?
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>>93909096
Amon committed a murder suicide in Korra, but fuck Korra
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>>93907041
So yea, as others have said Toffee had no reason to know how stupid powerful Star is, hell no one outside of Glos and Stars parents really knew. He sure as hell didn't factor in the fact that she is so strong she can literally rewrite the laws of magic and what should be possible with it. Hell even glossaryck is surprised by what she can do on a few occasions and he's been around a long LONG time and see what everyone can do including Eclipsa.

So yea, it's not even that he underestimated her its that he didn't estimate her at all. He just thought she was a brat, turns out she's as much of a monster as he is.
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>>93909052
Lisany Simptano here
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This scene was so fucking cute. Star just went for the hug right away while Marco was mid-sentence. I think the body language is pretty indicative of how season 3 is going to go. Star probably isn't going to hide how she feels at all anymore, and Marco is going to both like and hate it.
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>>93909052
magic does basically anything, but is extremely volatile
the role of the magic high commission is to panel-beat it into something practical and reliable
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>>93909112
100% this.
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>just finished it
that was actually really fucking good, just overall.

goop toffee was pretty nice light weight nightmare fuel too, haven't seen that in western animation for a while.

unfortunately the plot got resolved way too quickly
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>>93908822
>tfw the chicken crossed the road to get to the other side but I'm still here
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Calling it now, Glossaryck is gonna reappear using Star's new spellbook that she wrote herself.

Its was all part of his plan.
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>>93909096
Come to think of it, that is basically what happened. I don't think Star expected her or Ludo to survive that.

Which incidentally made the part where Ludo happily asks if things will go back to normal just before it goes off almost seem like some Of Mice and Men shit.
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>Lunar Eclipse
>Star becoming stronger than Moon relates her to Eclipsa
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>>93909188
That, without a doubt will become the new official spell book.
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>>93909149
fair enough
I liked it just a tad confused by everything but the whole dipping down thing was already explained and shown
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>>93908993

They were able to replace Mako in Avatar (not a perfect match but "good enough"), they could find someone that sounds like him easily enough.
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>>93909096
I'm currently pitching it. Nobody's interested yet.
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>>93908752
>Daron Nefcy was reported to have been very troubled and even angry at Mr. Hall at the "insolence", as the other writers describe, at getting cancer back that she optend to kill off his character in the show, Toffee, an immortal lizard monster that terrorized the heroes for two seasons, in the most humiliating fashion.
>Mr. Hall was heartbroken when he learned that he will be written out but was devastated that the character he grew to love was killed off in such a fashion. According to reports, Mr. Hall was apologetic toward Daron for getting cancer and getting in the way in her plans.

HOLY SHIT DARON!
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>>93909188

You know, putting it all in one book seems like a liability if someone can just toss it all into a fire like that.
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>>93909112
>NANI!??!
>UWAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>93909202
But will the power make Star lose her fucking mind?
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>>93908572
And rides him all day long?
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>>93909195
>Tell me about the rats, Star
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>>93909188
Name ONE (1) other TV-Y7 cartoon where there are literally four different grand-scheme keikakus being woven simultaneously with none of the masterminds aware that the others are making centuries-old plots.
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>>93909195
I think she did considering how she acted once inside the wand and she knew what happened to Toffee after destroying the wand the first time.
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>>93908984
She ran away from the throne but its not said whether or not she willingly gave up the wand or book when she ran off with her monster lover.
Stars a real brat and always complains about having to be queen. Maybe Eclipsa convinces her to run away too.
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>>93908727
yee, she did not want to let go of him when they were reunited, like ever.
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>that sort of engrish ED
is this becoming an anime
will svtfoe save anime?
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>>93909228

>Source: Jackie's ass
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>>93909188
Glossaryck is a lich and the book is his phylactary. You need to use the magic ink from the wand to make a new phylactary. He's final villain confirmed.
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>>93909257
I don't understand what this means
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>>93909281

You can't be a lich if you were never alive to begin with. He's something much worse: an artificial god.
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>>93909235
Possibly only the owner can burn it, or whoever has the wand, even though the book no longer recognized Ludo as its owner he might have been close enough to burn it.
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>>93908993
>Daron why are we recording my lines first
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>>93909188
>Star is so startled upon seeing him in the new spellbook that she accidentally throws it into a fireplace
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Now here's something nobody mentioned. When Moon does the Darkest Spell, Eclipsa starts glowing. Why?
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so how did ludo get inside the magic anyway
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>>93909239
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>>93909228
[citation needed]
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>>93909304
She mentioned the spell required a contract, Moon was possibly borrowing Eclipsa's power.
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>>93909292
He;'s saying there's a huge cosmic chess game being played, mostly by Glossaryk.
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>>93909309
star got inside the magic when she did the whispering spell
so it's possible being caught in the blast of that spell does weird shit to you
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>>93909304

Because it's not Moon's magic. It's Eclipsa's.

In plenty of things, pact magic involves channeling a deity's or spirit's power. Eclipsa is channeling her power through Moon.
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>>93909304
Magic transference, she is channeling Eclipsa's knowledge and power through the contract and spell.
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>>93909304
You don't really think Moon is powerful enough to cast a spell that literally uncreates matter by herself, do you?
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>>93909334
true
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>>93908435

Shining Star Retribution
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>>93909228
>When David Bowie and Michael C Hall met for the first time, the rock star looked at the actor, held him in his gaze for a moment and then asked: “What is it with you?”

>Hall didn’t ask him to elaborate; he knew Bowie meant “death”.
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>>93909304
The spell was powered by a contract between Queens.
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At first I was disappointed this seems to be the kind of show where the Main Character is powerful just cuz without working hard.
Now I'm still disappointed.
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>>93909329
Who are the four keikakus
And what's a keikaku
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So was anything in the trailer a lie?
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Its hack writing Pony Heads and Demons did nothing while The Butterflys were under siege
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>>93909143
She casually calls Marco cute as well. I think Star and Marco will ignore the little confession, and even disregard it around their friends and family, but some things like "you're cute/adorable" and some flirting slips in from time to time until it once again boils over in the midseason finale.
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>>93909375
Why?
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>>93909378

Yeah, they implied Star would be present when Toffee-Ludo faced off with Moon by having her shooped into one of Toffee-Ludo's eyes.
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>>93909335
So Moon multiclassed as a Warlock to gain the killing spell. neat.
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>>93909378
There were no lies. There are only farafetched assumptions people make from a 30 second long trailer
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>>93909228

Are trying point out how retarded this sounds or are you just making up shit?
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>>93909375
>literally had to kill herself twice, chastigate her soul, and achieve temporary demonic apotheosis
>"just cuz"
LEAVE
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>>93909406
Wait until it happens in front of Jackie.

That's going to be a good episode.
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>>93909393
maybe they were under siege too
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>>93909376
keikaku means plan

and i'm thinking toffee, glossaryck, eclipsa and uh
moon? iunno
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>>93909408
Because I'd rather have a show where the MC wins because they earn the win. Star has been shown to just be given ultra raw power, and that's kind of boring.
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>>93909393
because of the fritz they may have been out of commission anon.
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>>93909228
Typical Daron
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>>93909430
Catfight incoming

You guys excited?
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>>93909424

She shouldn't have had to, most spontaneous casters get a spell that has a death effect by high levels unless she's using an archetype that prohibits death spells or she didn't take any upon levelling up.
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>walks into a camp full of big strapping lizard men
>"oh gosh i sure hope nothing happens to me :)"
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>>93909475
>>93909424
>DnD
this show very clearly runs on GURPS magic systems
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Who Eclipsa/Moon here!?
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>>93909425
Remeber the season 2 trailer? They made the line "Me and Star, we're smooch buddies" real prominent. Remember the season 2 after bon bon trailer? They made it look like Star and Marco were gonna kiss using the Just Friends scene where they sing. Trailers lie.
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>>93909375
Star went into the Underworld, slated a dragon, and rescued her father and mother. She earned it.
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>>93909523
They implied.
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This whole thing happened because Moon fucked up, not Star
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>>93909503
>GURPS
>DnD
>implying Star isn't a Dawn Caste Solar Exalted
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>>93909052

It's Chaos magic, as Peter J. Carroll would say, it uses the pragmatic use of belief systems and the creation of new and unorthodox methods.

See Glossaryk, he keeps acting like a autist who don't know shit, and he still is the most magical creature in the show, and even moon and the concil don't fully understand him

Glossaryk keeps teaching Star to concentrate, Improvise, make shit up on the act and think outside of the box, and is even okay to Star to make up her own Spells instead of having the book, this is basically Chaos magic. There is no rules, just a buch of shit that you made up for yourself and you still belive in it, Star is powerfull because she is the most random and chaotic princess yet
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>>93909228
>Ms. Nefcy's colleagues report of how crazy she can be. It was reported that she once saw an episode of Adventure Time, a cartoon series centered around the adventures of young boy and his magical dog, and mocked the hero for losing his girlfriend and was noted as saying: "I'll have mine go through that and more." She was then alleged to have laughed continuously after seeing the hero lose her girlfriend to a sentient pastry, nearly tearing her clothes off and ravaging her husband, who was present at the time to give his wife support for her new cartoon, right then and there at the writers' room.
>Ms. Nefcy could not be contacted to comment on these allegations.
UNBELIEVABLE!
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>>93909561
Pretty much this, with the High Commission focusing magic into various practical forms that anyone can use.
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>>93909425
>>93909523
I'll admit I was tricked by the "have you learned nothing" line into thinking it would occur in another confrontation between Toffee and Moon instead of in a flashback.
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>Pic related. It's basically what Toffee was trying to do.
>Butterflies are fucking resilient, they just bounce back.
>He had many chances to kill Moon, River and Star but did not.
>He needed for them to get torn down from within. In this case emotionally.
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>>93909228
Hall was probably asking for too much money anyway, its easier to kill him off and have Ros the Whore voice the next major villain instead.
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>>93905109
Had issues with the audio.
Anyone have any non mega links?
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>Look, what you're doing is totally super admirable and Marco, you've never looked cuter in that beret
Wow, did she really just call him cute to his face? Season 3 is going to be amazing.
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>>93909464
Reminds me of the time when I met Daron at a grocery store.
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>Moon desperately trying to put the broken wand shards back together to bring her daughter back to life.

That was depressing.
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>>93909551
Now Star is the fuckup. Fucking up must run in the family.
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>>93909591

>Source: Ludo's ass
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>>93909143
You have a point Star already confessed about her feelings to Marco. So she has no reason to suppress or hide how she feels about him anymore. Maybe she will get more lovely dovey around him and it will make Marco feel embarrassed and awkward at times.
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>>93909516
Isnt she like her great great grandma or something?
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>>93909622
>a whore voices monsterslut
GOOD JOB, DARON.
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so what are the odds that Toffee is with Glossaryk now?
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>>93909281
I always thought of him more as like a genie then anything.
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>>93909681
Like watching a mother shoving her son's brains back into his shattered skull.
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>>93909713
>Maybe she will get more lovely dovey around him and it will make Marco feel embarrassed and awkward at times.
Wow... first the jacket sniffing and now this. Jokes are real
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>>93909758
He's in Tom's fire kingdom now, being mocked for dying like a bitch.
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Are you niggas sure it's Nefcy that is singing the new Outro? There is a hint of a Japanese accent, you can hear it during "princess winning battles" "When its night" and "she is a shining Star."

Also, BHK said Nefcy wrote it with him, nothing about how she sang it. Unless its on twitter somewhere, gotta go check.
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>>93909681

I liked the lack of dialogue in the scene right before that. Moon and Marco trying to impotently punch Toffee to death said more than dialogue could have.
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>>93908908
It's a joke autist, a well known formula even.
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>>93909816
>a hint

That's a hardcore japanese accent. It sounds like Ayahi Takagaki. But that just might be my racist ears.
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>>93909469
always bet on the harem ending. it's the only one worth having
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>>93909816
Nefcy is a weeaboo
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>>93909847
For once I really don't want that.
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>>93909816
It's clearly a Japanese person singing in English.
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>>93909816
Vocals are Agnes Shin
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>was supposed to be hardcore
>dies like a lil' ligger bitch
>didn't even have a fight scene
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>>93909845
>>93909881
>yfw it's Mami Kawada
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>>93909924

CHAUNCEY NO
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Non-glowy Super Sailor Star is still cute
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>>93909847
Jackie and Star are both too selfish to share, making a harem end involving them impossible.

Ironically, this leaves only one possible end.
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>>93908614
>but let the fucking goblin dog guy in the intro.
Well they needed all of the best characters in the intro.
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>>93909944
You know its canon that Marco would get with Ponyhead before that ever happened right?
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>>93909764
>genie
Speaking of genies, Glossaryck is like one of the few characters Akinator doesn't guess right.
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>Star sniffing Marco's hoodie
>hot as fuck
>Janna sniffing Marco
>gross
What went wrong?
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>>93909939

wait hold up

how did Chauncey die then
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>>93909924
>didn't even have a fight scene
Blame Star for that.

He took down Moon and Marco bare-handed, and then left because it was over. Then Star, being the cowardly criminal that she is, shot a defenseless reptile in the back as he was leaving peacefully.
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>>93909991
He died later, probably when Moon hunted the monsters down.
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>>93909991

Probably while Moon was on her grand purge of the remaining monsters.
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When will Nefcy directly make a sly reference to Between Amigos?
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>>93909973
Who said it was gross? It's the same thing, only difference is one was done privately for personal enjoyment and the other was a intentionally embarrassing flirt. One's kinda cute while the other is kinda hot.
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>it's another mediocre show gest overrated by shipperfags episode

You faggots are so predictable.
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>>93909973
Apparently because Star is fair-skinned, blonde, with blue eyes, while Janna is brown-skinned with dark hair and eyes.

This is a pretty racist cartoon all things considered.
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>>93909991
The war didn't end when they scattered. There was a bunch of purging going on after.

>>93910046
>implying shipping was what anybody cared about going into this.
That's for the rest of the season
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>>93910040
Go away, Janna.
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>>93910047
BASED DARON
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>>93909942
Yep, no leggins, thats definitely a panty shot during the transformation scene. Nefcy went full mahou shoujo.
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>>93910046
This movie was under 1% shipping bullshit. The true shipping and suffering comes later.
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>>93909942
>yfw Mathmagic foreshadowed demon Star
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>>93910046
Eh, whatever. Here's your (You), no need to stick around.
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Holy fuck

Marco was willing to murder Toffee
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>>93910036
Didn't one of the staff already reference it on Twitter?
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>>93910226
What? where?
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>>93910208
Naturally. Wouldn't you want to murder someone you thought had murdered your best friend?
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Seems like the staff's Tumblr make it clear that Toffee is dead-dead.
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>>93910238
Someone posted a screenshot of a tweet saying something like "1234 (Moaning emoji)" I forgot who
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>>93906856
That's May from Pokemon.
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Man, whoever did this was so close, but the Jackie boxes cucked em.
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>>93910249
That'd be anticlimactic as fuck, he's definitely been put on a bus but I really doubt he's dead-dead
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>>93910249
>the Toffee we know is dead
>yfw he is resurrected and turned into a lizard baby
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>>93910280

I think he might be dead-dead but I seriously doubt there isn't more backstory to him.
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>>93910293
>lizard baby is promptly adopted by Buff Frog
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>>93910249
Link for those of us unfamiliar with tumblr?
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>>93905409
It was a Korean singer but Nefcy worked with BHK in composing it
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>>93909942
she looks an awful lot like heckaboo with the longer horns and yellow dress
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>>93910361

http://hug-bees.tumblr.com/post/163044640827/so-umtoffee-ya-know-that-big-photo-i

Toffee's certainly not coming back any time soon?
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>>93910321
Man, speaking of Buff Frog, that nigga was great. I hope the queen rewards him for his valiant service during the Toffee crisis.
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>>93910386
Star knows what Marco likes.
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does the butterfly family like the diaz's so much because tacos and doritos are made from corn?
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>>93910321
>Ludo comes back to help raise the babies he gave Buff Frog
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>>93910414
yet she couldn't even magic up a great rack
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>>93910386
>Hekapoo is secretly Star from the future
>Lekmet is secretly Star from the past
>Rhombulus is secretly Star from an alt dimension where she was dropped on her head as a baby
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>>93910409
>Toffee Redemption Arc?
top kek. Well that shuts up people looking for redemption arcs.
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>>93910479
>Crisis on infinite mewni's
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>>93910409
>Burning a Toffee redemption arc script
I chuckled.
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>>93910409
can't load page, what does it say?
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Actually hold up, was Toffee made out of that black sludge goop in his new body? Yea, he had a ribcage/skeleton but it certainly looked different compared to Storm the Castle and the other Septarians.

Might also be a way to explain the regen thing (even though he regenerated the hole Marco punched in his goopy body), as the new body might not be as durable.

Plus, Star's magic was gold and Toffee had been corrupting her magic, so maybe that blast was the reverse in a sense?
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Anyone wanna photoshop melted toffee to red? I wanna see how it looks and I know jack shit about shoop.
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>>93910552
It's a few doodles of Toffee dying from somebody on the Star staff I suppose.
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>>93910566
seems like it. the goop spilled from the gem and built a new body for him, then he vomited out ludo who was coated in the same goop. and as exaggerated as his feats are, I don't think Marco is strong enough to punch all the through a torso made of flesh and bones
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Eclipsa > Young Moon > Ludo Merchandise Vendor > Mime Girl > Foolduke > Demon Star
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>>93910566
The black sludge was all the magic Toffee had been sucking up and corrupting since the end of season 1, he certainly seemed to be made out it. The gold magic Star was using was new uncorrupted magic.
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>>93910640
where is the porn of mime girl, anyway?
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>>93909932
Mami Kawada retired a year ago. Stop hurting me.
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>>93910658
Make some anon.
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>>93910664
She'll come back soon because you know what is coming back.
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>>93909963
>implying Marco has a choice in the matter
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>>93909973
>>93910047
That's about it, one is attractive, the other one is a fug
Like the difference between 'persistent' and 'stalker'
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>>93910648
>>93910623

Then they bypass the regeneration thing. The goop can fill in the hole, but Toffee can't actually regrow like he used to do? Sure it's a bit off, but it can work.

Plus the whole "Star uncorrupts the black goop" probably did a number on Toffee too.

,,,

Yea, it's looking like he's dead-dead. Really hope his final lines weren't just a bluff though, that'd be interesting. Or if he sticks around in the form of corrupted magic or something.
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Holy hell but did they put Ludo through the wringer over the course of the movie.
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>>93910552
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>>93910749
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So um,,,,,,,,Toffee. Ya know that big “photo” I have of him at my desk and everyone laughed and thought it was funny? Eheheh…I made it as my memorial shrine,,,, sorry,,,,

These were all doodles I did on my first week of Star while everyone was working out the final beats of how the Toffee episode would go. So while most of these are jokes (to cope with my pain) a couple of these drawings were working off of previous drafts or ideas being thrown around with how a battle with Toffee would go! So none of this is canon guys…except for the last pic
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>>93910785
well the most obvious keikaku is that he needed to die to ensure eclipsa gets freed, and she may have some way to bring him back from the dead
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>>93910810
Good riddance. Who the fuck would want to redeem Toffee? Almost all of the interest in him is because he's en evil, manipulative bastard.
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>>93910834
Memorial shrine
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>>93910792
fuck ludo, seriously. waste of time character except for ludo in the wild
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>>93910861
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>>93910836

I don't think she has any clue who Toffee is. She's clearly surprised at being frozen 300 years, and Toffee has given 0 indication that he was even around then/knows Eclipsa (since he makes a move against Moon's mom).

Mind you, I wouldn't mind Toffee coming back, but it'd have to be done right otherwise he loses his effect IMO. I figure he'll come up as a flashback or, like I said earlier, maybe as corrupted magic somewhere else (could just be a fragment/remnant and not the whole real deal).
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>>93910886
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>>93910900
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>>93910887
>She's clearly surprised at being frozen 300 years
I bet my bottom dollar that Eclipsa was playing Moon the whole time, right down to begging for food to seem more vulnerable
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>>93909406
I think Jackie's going to break up with him the moment they return to Earth.
He probably just left out of the blue to go get Star back and didn't even tell her, was gone for days. Jackie will probably draw her own conclusions from that.
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Do you faggots really think this is the first time a character has died in a Disney production?
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>>93910900
was toffee actually missing his finger again after being blasted?
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>>93910792
I don't know what it is about Ludo but I fucking love seeing him humiliated and failing despite trying
It's just the way this little ugly manlet from shitty, abusive family can't ever amount to anything meaningful despite how much he tries;
It's this ability to always be pathetic and hated all his life, no matter the power or position he achieves;
So satisfying.
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>>93910935
No, but disney deaths are notoriously sanitized with dark implications, often implying a gruesome death, but not showing it (see Tarzan). Toffee got melted the fuck out, and we get to see the results. Shits nightmare fuel for kids yo.
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>>93910935

Goodness no, didn't you ever watch Event Horizon?
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>>93910792
>I have a wand. Hand. I don't know if I like this.
>Hahaha! Joke on me!
>I'm just a sad little dingus in a chip-bag.
>Augh Glossaryk! Oh no nononono! I'm sorry!
>Of course I want help! I've been talking to my own hand!
>So does this mean everything's back to normal?
>Please! Just tell me. Did I have any part to play in this?
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>>93910941

Kinda? In the initial "Toffee is fried" he is, but when he's crawling and giving the final monologue, he's got the finger.
>>
and then we never got any more porn of toffee. the end
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>>93911033
There will be porn of melting Toffee anon. Just you wait and see.
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To quote a very wise man, my thought process on Toffee's whole story arc was:
1. What?
2. Oh, I see, it goes deeper and deeper.
3. What, that's it?

I mean, we got enough that we could conceivably just end Toffee's role in the story here and never bring him back, but it would be rather unsatisfying to have this be the character's whole conclusion. They don't even necessarily have to bring Toffee back to life or anything, but his role in the story really can't just end here without it being "what, that's it?" situation. Further exploration of the backstory or some sort of lingering effects from beyond the grade or something is really needed to fully complete the closure to the point that we can never bring him up again.
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>>93910412
>"Oh...'Buff Frog', was it? I, well, wanted to thank you for helping us free Mewni Castle and face Toffee. For...being such a good friend to Star."
>awkward silence
>"If there is any way I can repay you-"
>"Only one thing I need,Queen Moon. Good, steady job."
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Can anyone make an image of Toffee melting in Star's beam with a "so this is spiral power" or a "KONO POWAH DA" edit
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What was the black goo in the sanctuary place? I thought it was going to corrupt the High council or something but nope.

I also noticed Mina was hiding out in Ludo's lair. I'm guessing this is a "did ya see that" gag but its disappointing she didn't even up doing shit.

The people didn't seem that upset about the events of Rubewhatever's song when they were practically rioting behind.

So Toffees grand scheme was....
1) Get finger back
2) ???????
3) Profit
Kind of disappointing.

Hopefully Eclipsa saves this season, I called it after S2 finale that they were going to pull a Bravo Vince and wrap up all the major cliffhanger plots within the first episode.
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>>93911094
The black goo was corrupted magic. Ever since the end of season 1 Toffee has been trapped inside the wand absorbing and corrupting all the magic of the universe. This was causing 'the fritz' that the high Commission was so worried about in season 2.

Toffee's grand scheme was to destroy all magic and regain his finger, his immortality and his respect as a general of the monster army and then continue the conquest he started all those years ago.
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>>93911094
his plan seemed to be the death of magic and the overthrowing of the butterfly dynasty. getting his finger back was just a personal grievance. as far as he knew, he'd already killed all magic, and when he crushed the wand half he believed that was the heir to the butterfly dynasty dead. moon and river are both probably too old have more kids, even if they could bring themselves to try. as far as he could tell, he'd accomplished all of his goals, so all he had to do was sit back and enjoy watching the kingdom crumble
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Lekhmet is still dead?
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>>93911174
Moon seems to think so.
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>Star casually obliterates an unsuspecting lizard man with a smile on her face
Brutal
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>>93910970
>puddle of goo
>graphic
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>>93911193
Well, he wasn't with the other Magic High Commission members when they were revived
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>>93911094
His plan was to absorb and corrupt all the magic (fritz) so no one can beat him (no more insta kill spells), get his finger and regenerate, rally all monsters with his immortality like back in the good ol days, and rule. He didn't account for Glossy making a pudding magic seed and Star dipping down in the hobo stew for it, thus bringing magic back. He underestimated Star and didn't account for Glossarick's Keikaku.
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>>93911147
>>93911152
That's actually very intriguing and makes sense. Shame they didn't spend more time developing or explaining it rather than wasting an entire episode on Rivers pointlessly trying to fight a non-hostile giant monster.
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>>93906220
Pretty sure Star had absorbed the Council's powers at this point (Hekapoo's horns and flames, etc.). Monsters and Mewnans were meant to merge and coexist all along.
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The best part about Star vs. is that there are neither good guys nor bad guys, just a bunch of selfish assholes who don't know a damn thing, yet are willing to fight tooth and nail for what it is they know nothing about. Even Star isn't a "good" character, considering her only motivations are "unfuck the shit I fuck up".
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>>93911238
even in profile she is beautiful
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>>93911243
>The best part is the characters are poorly defined nihilistic cliches
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>>93911269
>greentext
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>>93907948

>Even Maximized Disintegrate wouldn't kill a creature with Regeneration 1
Disintegrate may not have a death effect, but it is a transmutation spell. Specifically, it transmutes the target into a pile of dust if it deals enough damage to reduce the target's hit points to less than 0, regardless of whether or not that would kill the target. Consequently, being transmuted into a non-living thing (a pile of ashes) kills the target.

>Either Toffee's Regeneration was keyed to Good as a weakness
I'd guess good and evil based on the spell Moon was using.

>or Star just blew him the fuck out so hard it overrode his Regeneration
I'm guessing this.
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>>93911238
Yeah, I think the problem was that Toffee isn't really one for gloating. In fact when he returned to life he just sort of stood there in stunned surprise that he'd pulled it off. I'm gonna give the show points for this instead of filling the scene with exposition, but yeah, there should have been something somewhere giving us a bit more backstory/motivations for Toffee.
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>>93911285
Even if they don't bring back Toffee personally, they have to explore more of his backstory/motivations. What we got just wasn't enough to give his death closure.
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>>93911276
Doesn't change the fact that you're a pleb.
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>think Star is Nefcy's idealized self and Starfan13 is her real self
>"I make the plans! Only I know how this ends!"
>mfw Toffee is Nefcy's final form

If she was willing to let Toffee do that to Star, I can't imagine what she did to MCH and Julio...
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>>93911269
buzzwords
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>>93911346
"Nihilistic" isn't a buzzword, you dolt. Having a bunch of characters with no real moral grounding isn't good writing.
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>>93911243
Is Nefcy an egoist?
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>>93911221
Yeah bruh, it would have been more effective if he was all red and shit, heres few minutes in ms paint.
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>>93911378
That just looks like mud rather than icky black goop
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>>93911397
I tried to make it like melted meat chunks, its the best I could do with the bucket tool.
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>>93911365
>Having a bunch of characters with no real moral grounding isn't good writing.
I would like you to elaborate on this. Seems to me that you perceive "cliche" and "nihilistic" as words having generally negative meanings and that influences your opinion on the style of writing that those words describe
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>>93911418
Nah it's cool, it's just to pull the fleshy look off you'd need to change the whole color scheme, the outlines, the highlights and the bones all need to work together.
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>>93906454
HIRSCHED
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>>93911455
>>93911378

I'm writing a post on this now, but it's very telling that it's not Toffee's actual, original body.

The new body is made out of that magic goop, i.e. Star's corrupted magic (corrupted by Toffee). We see that when Toffee gets slurped up and makes his new body. The fact that it's corrupted magic also explains where the suit comes from (it's created by magic).

This also makes sense because Toffee's goop-based body is weaker. That's why Marco can punch THROUGH it (and the suit). He's angry, but still limited-he couldn't break the metal restraints holding Star. Toffee also has a look of shock when that happens, and the goop is clearly visible on Marco's hand. The hole fills in but it doesn't look the same as Toffee's earlier wound in Storm the Castle.

This might indicate that Toffee's regeneration is more limited. He's not in his original flesh body with the same regenerative powers, he's literally composed of corrupted magic on a magic-created skeleton. This is why he turns into goop partially when Star blasts him with the golden magic (the same color of magic which was uncorrupting the MHC too with the fountain).

It also is a nice workaround for the regen-Toffee's new body isn't actually capable of the same regenerative feats and is blasted apart by Star, whose magic is a literal antithesis to Toffee's body (which is made up of Star's corrupted magic).
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Mime is best new waifu

up until she talked. mfw
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>>93911428
"Nihilistic" in that the characters perceive no higher values other than fixing their own mistakes, and "cliche" because that's all you seem to get nowadays. Why should I care about " a bunch of selfish assholes who don't know a damn thing"?
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>>93911507
I think that you don't know what Nihilism is.
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So, not/sveg/ is this the Return/Jailbreak of the show? Are we now gonna get flooded by new folks and make shit more cancerous that it already is?
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>>93911507
>Why should I care about " a bunch of selfish assholes who don't know a damn thing"?
Well you visit a site full of 'em every day.
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>>93906454
There's just something magical about the origin stories and behind the scenes of everything related to Star vs. When was the last time a show was made that had positive effects on the lives of people working on it, and not only that, the people actually enjoyed what they were doing?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13446933

now that eclipsa has made her grand appearance in person, how do you feel about her?

specifically how evil is she?
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>>93911507
No, I mean elaborate how that correlates to bad writing(writing that people will likely find uninteresting)

Game of Thrones has similar writing in the sense that the characters have their own agendas and not necessarily doing things for [good] or [evil], would you describe its writing as [bad]?
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>>93911567
11. Voted for BLumpf
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>>93911577

>Game of Thrones has similar writing in the sense that the characters have their own agendas and not necessarily doing things for [good] or [evil], would you describe its writing as [bad]?

Yes, actually.

Here's a good rundown as to why.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-tedious-fruit-of-nihilism.html
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>>93911602
what is it about nihilism that makes characters uninteresting
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>>93911602
TLDR but your opinion is not a fact and neither is that guy's.
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>>93911602
also highlight that important parts, I'm not reading all that shit
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>>93911615
The fact that the character becomes redundant and pointless. Why should I care about an aimless character?
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>SVTFOE characters
>Nihilism
Guys, You have to learn what Nihilism is before trying to discuss about it.
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>>93911618
>>93911625

>SV fags can't read.

Go figure.
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>>93911633
>aimless character?
Nihilist =/= Guy without objetives and isn't ""good"" or ""evil"".
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>>93911661
>Guy without objetives and isn't ""good"" or ""evil"".


But that's a bad character.
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>>93908687
the crystal cracked my nigga

contract fulfilled

he's gone
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>>93911633
>The fact that the character becomes redundant and pointless.
The character has to be a good guy fighting for people or a total asshole to be interesting?
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>>93911633
>The fact that the character becomes redundant and pointless.
Pointless-maybe, but that doesn't necessarily make them uninteresting. But how are they redundant?
>Why should I care about an aimless character?
They could have an agenda that you can relate to
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>>93911672
I never said that it was good.
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>>93911681
It certainly helps give the audience a reason to care.
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>>93911638
That's not the point, we're arguing about whether "nihilism" makes for bad writing or not
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>>93911697
God, You're a retard.
First you don't really understand what Nihilism is and now you're saying that the classic "good angels vs evil demon grr" is interesting.
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>>93911633
>>93911656
>The writing is excellent from a technical perspective. But to the extent that it is more than the picture of a dead dog, the message is poisonous, and, as Greenwald correctly observes, tedious. It is ironic that Banks died as he wrote, of a wildfire cancer that brought a meaningless end to his meaningless life of writing repetitively about the meaninglessness of Man.

>But that is the fruit of nihilism: insignificance, boredom, and sooner or later, death.

tl;dr: the writing is good but it is also bad
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>>93911702
it's important, Because you were describing the characters in this show as "Nihilist" so you really don't understand shit about what you're talking about, So how can you say that is good/bad writting when you don't know what it is?
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>>93911734
That's why I had the word "nihilsm" in quotations, I am using his connotation of the word
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>>93911689
>But how are they redundant?

Because it gets uninteresting if all the character does is try to fix their own mistakes but never learns from them.
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>>93911765
That's has nothing to do with "nihilistic" characters
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So guys, the whole Lucifer imagery and "Shining Star" is just a coincidence right? Dis Irae anon, you here? Whats your take on all this?
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>>93911765
That's just legit bad writting, not related at all with Nihilism.
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Does anyone have a screencap of the biblical theory? I forgot to save it and can't find it on the web.
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>>93911762
>I am using his connotation of the word
Well, You shouldn't. that's retarded.
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>>93905848
That was a bit shitty, I would've preferred for him to stick around
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>>93911783
>giant as fuck devil horns despite being a headband
>golden Star
>Shining Star
>earlier painting of Ludo vs River reminiscent of Michael casting down Lucifer
Niggah, it's beyond coincidence.
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>>93911828
You should if you want to have a productive argument
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>>93911830
What was he supposed to do?
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>>93905848
yeah. he till seems to want to be a king, but I get the feeling when he comes back he'll decide to become king of the monsters instead and actually try to be a good king rather than just sitting in the castle trying to convince people that they love him unconditionally
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>>93911839
You can't. Doing that you will just discutting if bad writting is bad writting and not if "Nihilism" is bad.
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>>93911839
That doesn't makes sense at all.
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>Moon's hands are ugly n shit now
>Eclipsa's hands are ok

what did they mean by this?
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>>93911964
Eclipsa will slowly take Moon's place. Rest of the series is Star and Marco and the gang trying to find a way to save Moon and the Kingdom of Mewni!

Of course Eclipsa outkeikakus them + Star's own idiocy fucks everything up leading to Eclipsa being freed regardless.
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>>93907537
Bobby and Lori
Lincoln and Ronnie anne
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>>93911506
makes it hotter
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New bread when?
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>>93908606

I dunno, I feel like Toffee is a sort of deconstruction of this type of villain. His debut of taking over Ludo's place was to more or less make none of the characteristic mistakes of an incompetent cartoon villain, and assert himself as the smart, reserved guy. It would make sense that he would not want to waste time telling his opponents his motives. This should be doubly so with Moon, since he met her in the past and would not feel compelled to reveal them. It might be nice to learn about his motives in the future though.

I wouldn't cast him as a monster of the week type villain, since his plot was drawn out across a number of episodes. I might not cast him as the main villain either though. Probably Eclipsa, since she's eventually breaking out.
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>>93910704
>yfw it's actually Wakamoto
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Why was Toffee's finger even a thing if it got disintegrated in the flashback?
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>>93912285
It got disintegrated into the wand. If Moon wasn't such a little bitch and actually aimed at Toffee properly, his entire body would probably be trapped in the wand.
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>>93912313
She didn't wanna free Eclipsa tho, so she whiffed on porpoise. It proved the immortal lizards can be killed, thus lowering the monster army's morale.
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>>93911850
deal with his problems and learn to be a better person
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>>93912313
Toffee's finger wasn't in the wand until Storm the Castle. How did he get it back before that anyway?
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>>93910434
no you dingus he's gonna be one of the babies and Buff Frog will be his adoptive father
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>>93906342
It's not "my love", it's "mi querida"= "my dear".
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>>93911964
>t. blind person

Eclipsa's hands are fucked too
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>>93912550
Look at the picture again. Thats from the the last 10 mins of the show. Look at Eclipsa's hand. Totally clear. And you accuse anon of being blind. C'mon bro.
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>>93912568
It's just an inconsistency related to the overlay of the translucent blue, here's a pic from the same scene at the end, the color used on the hand is different from the one on the face.
Also if you bother to go back to when she is refrozen the pose is similar but not exactly the same (one finger is slightly rised and the arm is further away from the chest).
You're overthinking it.
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>>93906655
Because she's the embodiment of cuckolding.
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