Why does Marvel think people will buy comics where formerly beautiful

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>>93837988
>Squirrel Girl, formerly beautiful

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>>93838034
Yes.

>>93838034
>Sh-shut up! Someone drew her liek my animes onced, she's so beautiful!"

>>93837988
Just don't buy them.

>>93837988
Only two od those characters would barely fit into this insane rambling; Carol and Squirrel girl. I think you are reaching with this bait to be honest.

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You forgot Remender aging up Sharon Carter slightly and Nick Spencer expanding on it to make her look like his political crush, Hillary.

>>93837988
>Squirrel Girl
>Formerly beautiful
She was cute in an awkward way at best. People don't like Squirrel Girl because they like the way she looks. People like Squirrel Girl because she makes for some damn good stories.
So what I want to know is how North fucked up writing her so very, very badly. Dan Slott did an amazing job writing her, and to be perfectly open and honest, fuck Dan Slott with a splintering dirty broomhandle.

>>93838063
Only sexist pigs won't buy these books!!

>>93838109
Oink fucking Oink.

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>>93838109

Now, let's list the characters that were completely covered up that weren't before:

Carol
Gamora
Tigra
Spider-Woman
Scarlet WItch
Elektra
Psylocke

>>93838127
How long have you been waiting to use that image, Anon?

>>93838127
Kek

>>93837988
Squirrel girl picks up eisner nominations left and right

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>>93838034
>Casual posts a picture from her first appearance

Yeah and Iron Man still looks like pic related

>>93838127
quality post

Squirrel girl is in the kids section. Kids like goofy faces. It is a comedy comic.

It is simple. Why do we need so many threads?

>>93838197
And Suicide Squad won an Oscar. Your point?

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I've said it before to these obvious Marvel interns: Henderson's Doreen is extremely off model. Squirrel Girl's solo is the only book where she looks like an autistic fat fuck.

>>93838139
Spider-Woman was completely covered up though.

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This is what happens when you put a fucking raghead in charge of Marvel.

>>93838200
You're comparing a different suit of armor to a person's face, Anon.

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>>93838241
Does Tony still look like this?

>>93838239
They still are cheesecake and glorious. Look how fucking hot they are.

>>93838251
I mean, if you matched up the hair and mustache styles? Probably.

>>93838213
What Oscar? Makeup or something? I thought it got thoroughly panned.

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>>93838268
So no he doesn't.

>>93838271
Yeah you guessed it. Makeup.

>>93838290
Tony Stark has always supposed to be handsome, squirrel girl was fat-lipped and wide-eyed.

How many times are retards gonna make a thread bitching about "muh covering up womens" in comics? If you idiots wanna jack off, you have porn.

>>93838290
Hm? Same general bone structure. Change of hair style to get with the times.

Everything else is well within comic book panel by panel variation.

>>93838303
Oh. Well, I'm sure it had some stiff competition. I wonder if the makeup and prop staff had themselves a party after all that.

Must feel good to be the best part of a movie when you are in an underrated field.

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>>93838320
>squirrel girl was fat-lipped and wide-eyed.

The key word is "was". She hasn't looked like that in years. How can you make your argument when she doesn't even have the diamond makeup on her eyes anymore?

>>93838369
>Change of hair style to get with the times.

Ok so you admit he doesn't look like how he did before. Same goes for Doreen.

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>>93838232
True. But the costume was skintight.

>>93838390
If the key word is was then why complain about her suddenly being ugly again?

>>93838390
I'll be honest, I wasn't arguing. I just felt you picked a bad counter example.

Doreen clearly doesn't look like her first appearance. The child's comic version clearly looks closer to the more modern take.

But I do think there was no particular reason to make her attractive. Since it doesn't add anything to the comedy. And I do not think that the exaggerated cartoony style making her seem even more homely is a problem.

>>93838337
I think it's still ridiculous and a disservice to make formerly homely or not super hot characters into ugly autistic hambeasts to please the SJW fat bulldykes. ~ homosexual male here.

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>>93838437
Because that's not what she looks like, Marvel intern. She doesnt look like Henderson's version in any of the other books she appears in. Henderson is the problem, not the character.

>>93838471
boo fucking hoo

>>93838472
And the pic you posted looks nothing like >>93838051 so what's your point. There's clearly no rules for what squirrel girl's face is supposed to look like at this point.

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Daily reminder that /co/ can draw better than Henderson.

>>93838230
Yup. Outside of that she looks like an actual human being. And behaves like a complete maniac. In a way that indicates insanity, not indoctrination.

>>93838489
I don't get where you guys are getting fat from this. Ugly, sure, but fat?

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>>93838239
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss." -QS 24:31

>>93838487

>>93838051 was from almost 10 years ago. Try again, intern. And even then it's still closer to how she looks than Henderson.

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>>93838523
Reminder that Sana Amanat is a proud supporter of Sharia Law advocate Linda Sarsour, who recently called for jihad on the White House.

>>93838539
>10 years ago
So? No really, why does that matter? And please don't try to argue using a character's costume that's literally a different one from what they wear now.

>>93838557
I really wouldn't be surprised if she has some sort of ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, I'd be more surprised if she didn't.

>>93838239
>persona change
>cherrypicked aberrant one-off from the blue onesies
>she just closed a zipper
>objectively 100% more cleavage visible, also now dressed like a person
>well, she's preggers. You don't want to see more detail. Also there were jokes made about her wearing spray paint only
>distorted picture and come on! That's just a different cut
>oh noes, not the sexy space tighties! We demand full fetish gear
>persona change and classic Wolverine costume. She since armored up, which would give you a much better point.

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>>93838570
What do you mean so? This entire argument was about how characters evolve over time and dont look like how they did before. Peter Parker doesn't look like pic related anymore. He isn't drawn that way in any current Marvel book. Why is Squirrel Girl the exception? Why does Marvel make you kids troll this board shilling for Henderson when you could be doing actual work?

>>93838597
Go back to tumblr.

>>93838615
Anon, they don't actually care about comics. They just wanna shitpost. Don't bother with them.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with the new squirrel girl, aside from the face.

>>93838615
Peter gradually changed the way he looked. Squirrel Girl out of the blue went from Deodato to Henderson.

>>93838615
If you're fine with Squirrel Girl looking so different then there's no reason to complain about Henderson's SG (besides the art in general being shit) when she was made ugly on purpose. If, Squirrel Girl's just fucking rearranging is no problem then why complain?

>people argue about what characters are "supposed to look like" as if they're "off-model" when the reality is that they've been drawn and redrawn numerous times by countless artists in different styles and contexts for decades, with little regard to keeping anything straight beyond hair color (sometimes) and eye color (occasionally)

and people think /co/ not reading comics is a meme

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>>93838649
BECAUSE. SHE. DOESNT. LOOK. LIKE. THAT.

Henderson's SG is the odd man out. Her solo is the ONLY book were she looks like that. She doesn't look like that in any other fuck. Fucks sake get a new job.

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>>93838639
>You look beautiful except for your face.
kek

>>93838625
I care about comics. But changing the look for a comedy character for a series designed for children doesn't bother me enough to have several threads.

And the idea that this is some sort of attack on male readers as opposed to wanting to make her look funny is a notion that bothers me.

>>93838665
>BECAUSE. SHE. DOESNT. LOOK. LIKE. THAT.
But you yourself there's nothing wrong with a character looking different for no reason.

>>93838508
The face is almost circular.
That suggests being fat. Like, not having a chin just does that because of how facial recognition works in humans.
She has no real traits of being fat, but the lumpy drawings do her no favors.

>>93838663
>"I'm a casual pretending I read comics!"

Go back.

>>93838673
I never said that.

>>93838665
She actually kind of looks similar in that shot. Wide face, ugly big lips, beady eyes.

>>93838686
You implied it with the "10 years ago" bit.

>>93838675
>I have no argument, I'll call him a casual instead of refuting his points!

Not doin any favors for yourself bud.

>>93838239
Can anyone imagine being as gay as this dude?

>The Marvel Interns ITT will report back to their bosses on this thread and make USAvengers draw Doreen like Henderson's version

Screencap this.

>>93838051
>tracing Poser

Where do comic companies get the gall to hire artists that do this?

>>93838624
So no argument, or reading comics. I see.

>>93838698
No? The point is that characters evolve over time. Squirrel Girl from USAvengers is a natural evolution Bendis' New Avengers. Henderson comes out of nowhere and draws a completely different character.

We have two comics with Doreen and one completely refuses to draw her correctly.

>>93838710
Are you new? All the big two care about is deadlines and sales. Deodato and Land make their deadlines and nobody but /co/ cares about their tracing, so keep getting work work.

>>93838701
>>93838717

I'm not arguing with casuals.

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>>93838239

>>93838721
Squirrel Girl DIDN'T evolve though, she just looks completely fucking different, we didn't get a gradual change, we got "BAM! Squirrel Girls whole face is now nothing like it was before because ???."

>>93838721
Jesus Christ, look man, Henderson is a shit artist but you have really got to tone down the 'tism.

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>>93838663
Fucking casual. There are character sheets that have current looks for the characters. All artists have different styles but they must do their best to adhere to the current version of said character.

Star Lord became Meme Lord and he is drawn like that across all the current books.

>>93838729
Only a casual would think that Marvel keeps a model book that their artists are required to adhere to. Not even house style is that restrictive.

>>93838729
You can't argue at all, casuals or not lol.
go post on 7chan about the normies or whatever.

>>93838760
You're talking about costumes, that does not and has never extended to facial features or body types.

>>93838750
It's very clear that I'm going in circles with you intern. Tell Henderson to come here and face /co/ herself instead of hiring you to shill for her.

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THERE IS NO REASON TO MAKE A CHARACTER UGLY UNLESS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THEIR CHARACTER

>>93837988
Because not everyone buys comics to jerk off to.

>>93838785
>ran out of arguments
>better just call him an intern
Why even reply at that point?

>>93838784
Did you completely miss my point about Meme Lord? Star Lord now looks like a discount Chris Pratt. Read some books casual.

>>93838792
There is no reason to make a character beautiful unless it is a significant part of their character

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>>93838811
I can't argue with a shitposter who is regurgitating the same debunked arguments over and over again.

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>>93838820
YES THERE IS, IT IS BECAUSE IT IS NICE TO LOOK AT PRETTY FACES

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>>93838760
Sure, but it is undeniable that consistency is all over.

Black Canary literally looks like a different person in each issue of Green Arrow Rebirth. It is just costume and hair color that keeps her identifiable. Her tits, hair, FACE, silhouette all morph throughout. It pisses me off to no end.

>>93838792
It is funny though. Ugly people are funnier than pretty people. They are people to laugh at.

>>93838639
She was called in-universe ugly for being too skinny, and she was very skinny in comparison with Iron Man.
My problem is not that she is unattractive, it's just that her older version is kinda fat.
>>93838665
Is based on her GLA design where she got cuter as she grew older, I kinda like it because touch fluffy tail but I'd prefer if she was ugly and skinny.

>>93838825
>debunked
You didn't debunk anything, you claimed Squirrel Girl looking NOTHING like she did 10 years ago is somehow evolution when we didn't witness any gradual change. That's not evolution, that's just completely rearranging a character's face.

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>>93838784
What was that casual?

>>93838813
Outside of costume and hair color Anka's Star-Lord looks nothing like Samnee's. Nor did Pichelli's look like McNivens, nor Walker's like Pelletier's, nor Sutton's like Byrne's.

Now get the fuck out.

>>93838034
I'd fuck this Doreen.

But even I wouldn't fuck Erica Henderson or her Squirrel Girl.

>>93838872
"MAKE him old" is effectively part of the costume, there is no guide otherwise, he's got three different hairstyles there alone.

>>93838489
This just shows that Squirrel Girl's problem is the horrific art style rather than the character designs themselves.

>>93838872
>Old Cap
Is this Guns of the Patriots?

>>93838034
Isn't supposed she's fugly?
At least fugly than ugly boy with hips/tits

>>93838931
This. Agenda or no, Henderson can't draw for shit.

>>93838863
Look in the future when you get destroyed in an argument just move on to something else. Dont plug your ears and present the same tired argument. It's in bad taste.

>>93838878
>The causal doesn't understand art styles

Kek

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>>93838905
>Literally just said facial features and body types

Nice goal post moving casual.

>>93839020
So now you're just gonna shitpost because you're lacking an argument? Explain to me how going straight from >>93838051 to >>93838472 is evolution when they look completely different and there was no inbetween.

>>93838455
>But I do think there was no particular reason to make her attractive.
She's a comic book superhero. They are typically attractive. Especially protagonists of their own series. People like seeing attractive people. They don't like seeing ugly people. This is basic human nature.

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>>93839067
>He's still trying

>>93837988
>butch up all of their femme characters
>Rachel, who's always been butch in appearance, gets femmed up
I don't understand.

>>93839109
Jesus Christ, anon, you're arguing against someone defending fucking MARVEL, it shouldn't be so hard for you to come up with an actual argument. I'm aware of the shit state of Marvel yet you're the one making yourself look like a fag, think about that for a second.

>>93838139

now let's list the characters who had god awful "sandard" costumes who are only missed due to nostalgia and the reduction/lack of in-book cheesecake

>spider-woman
>scarlet witch
>gamora

now let's list the characters in superhero comics who have always had the same costume over their entire existence and have never undergone shifts or redesigns as the greater world times, customer tastes, and studio goals changed

>

>>93839150
Nice samefagging, shill.

>>93839043
You're right, you don't understand. Henderson just has a shitty style.

>>93839200
I didn't claim to be a different person, I even said "I'm aware of the shit state of Marvel"

>>93839163
>Spider Woman, Scarlet Witch, and Gamora's orginal costumes
>God awful

Go back casual. And Spider Man always goes back to the original red and blues with minor tweaks. It isn't the same as taking Scarlet Witch who had an amazing costume and putting her in a fucking corset and pants.

>>93839104
But she's not a "real" super hero. She's a joke one. In a joke series. For children.

A dumpy, goofy looking, derpy girl is more funny to a child than typical super hero. I bet I could show a few random panels sans context from this comic to a 8 year old and they'll giggle from the pictures alone.

How is this a complicated concept?

>>93839207
There is a difference between style and drawing a character completely different and off model.

>>93837988
Holy shit why is anyone buying squirrel girl comic?That art quality drop the comic value to 1 dollar at best

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>>93838239
Scarlet Witch and Sue are better, at least in looks.
I like the future foundation suits.

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>>93839227
>Scarlet Witch who had an amazing costume
The corset and pants are shit but this doesn't look much better. At least it's an actual costume I guess.

>>93839229
>But she's not a "real" super hero. She's a joke one.
Doesn't matter. There is plenty of precedent of comedic characters who still look attractive.

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>>93839262
Yes it does look much better than a corset and pants.

>>93838746
>i might need a source on this one
That's Frank Chos art for sure. Maybe her Totally Awesome Hulk appearances.

>>93839256
Sue really shouldn't be in that collage since that one costume was a total outlier om her 56 years as a comic book character. And the Future Foundation costume was as (if not more) skintight than her other costumes.

>>93839328
In terms of being an actual costume? Sure. But on pure visual appeal the corset and pants look better than the pic I posted

>>93838746
>scratches off sling Gamora
>in favor of Mass Effect Gamora
Absolutely shit taste.

>>93837988

Crystal is still hot. That's just not a good pic of her.

>>93839315
But we have a good reason to make her ugly (goofy faces are funny). Her being pretty wouldn't boost sales and precedent isn't really important in this instance.

I don't buy comics for drawings of pretty girls.

>>93839240
Jesus Christ, you're fucking hopeless.

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>That anon is still making threads complaining about Squirrel Girl
>He's been doing this every day for over a week now
Don't you get tired of constantly calling everyone Henderson and interns and thinking you've won the argument?

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>>93839555
OP here. This thread wasn't supposed to be soley focused on Squirrel GIrl. And none of those threads you're talking about are mine.

>>93839367
No they don't

>>93839450
>Casual has no argument

>>93839555
Don't you get tired of Marvel making you defend Henderson?

>>93837988
>he uses comic books only for masturbating

You have to be 18 to post here

>>93838078
Why make her look like that? It looks fucking absurd.

>>93838271
...

This guy is a fucking idiot.

>>93838262
Yeah, I'm with you. They're still basically body-hugging cat-suits for the most part. Although, I can't say I don't have a soft spot for the 'Ms. Marvel' get-up, same for the non-pictured Jim Lee Huntress D:

>>93838523
I want to fuck the Jihadism out of her while dressed in crusader armor.

>>93838838
Remainder that was done by a futa artist.

>>93839813
equating classic attractiveness/aesthetics to pornography.

it's not everything or nothing, maybe it's you who needs to grow up.

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>>93839703
Opinions. They are no relative

>>93838649
> she was made ugly on purpose
she was made ugly to piss people off and still be able to act smugly superior

>>93840592
So...on purpose?

>>93838239
i like ms marvel, invisible woman, black widow and gamora's updated look over their previous.

x-23's new look is more of a character arch than anything, right?

>>93838063
>Just don't buy them.
>>93837988

>Why does Marvel think people will buy comics where formerly beautiful women have been either substantially masculized or covered up?


This is the answer

comiXology's Best-Selling Comics for the Week Starting July 5, 2017

> 360. The Mighty Captain Marvel (2016-) #6

> 386. Elektra (2017-) #1

> 725. Spider-Gwen (2015-) #21

>>93838414

Like Superman, Batman, Spiderman,

>>93841394
>Books don't sell well outside of their debut week

>>93837988
>masculized

how to spot a /pol/fag: poor spelling and/or making up words

>>93838251
Is that Bob Belcher?

I feel like I've seen this exact same thread with the exact same pictures and replies a few days ago.
Do you fucks enjoy running in circles that much?

>>93841662
Literally everything to do with comics involves running in circles, so yes.

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>>93837988
Why Squirrel Girl doesn't look like this?

These threads I swear.

>Why doesn't Marvel make all their comics as dark/funny/serious/immature/mature/goofy/sexy/anime/realistic as "Title N" I like so much?

Boo. Hoo. Everytime.

>>93842035
I'd have way less of a problem with Marvel's visual changes if the stories were actually good. Like I wouldn't mind Squirrel Girl's terrible art if the book was at all funny like it's apparently supposed to be.

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The new Squirrel Girl is THICC, though.

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>>93838139
They tried.

>>93842115
If you don't like something it doesn't mean it's bad. It means you are not a part of target audience. Every piece of art, even the crappiest, has it's target, even it's like a hundred men wide.

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>>93842290

It's right there on the page. Why do they keep covering these beautiful men.

>>93842292
That's retarded, by that logic nothing is bad. There are certainly cases where regardless of quality some people just won't like certain things but sometimes things just suck.

>>93837988
I don't get all this rage around girl of squirrels.
Clearly a D-grade experimental character no one cared about before the relaunch getting some clearly experimental series and suddenly everyone wants her to be generic sexy marvel superhero doing generic marvel superhero things.
She's basically Howard the Duck level, why does no one asks to turn Howard into a new Wolverine or Deadpool?

>>93837988
>masculinized

do you mean given haircuts

because god damn dude fucking a chick with short hair does not make you gay unless you're a chick too

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>>93842345
I can't believe this misogyny.

>>93842442
they're too busy arguing that Wolverine should still be smoking cigars

like oh my god we get it, they vape

it doesn't mean he has to

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>>93842460

>>93838127
Perfect

>>93838239
I refuse to believe anyone defends Spider-Woman's old costume for any reason other than they like jerking their dick to it or they wanna stick it to tumblr or whoever.

Because Marvel is run by SJW panderers, purposefully driving away actual comic readers so only the tumblr-ites and SJW's remain. Essentially, they're trying to set their echo chamber up using Marvel Comics.

>>93842383
You do realize that billions of people in this world consider all the comic books a treat for little kids with zero artistic value? They honestly tried them.

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Comic book characters, especially heroines, have always changed their looks with the times---wavy perms, girl mullets, Deschanel bangs---and sometimes that means you get hilarious shit like pic related.

Sadly we happen to be in another time where fashion is retarded and the gay celtic warrior/pageboy look is what's in. Give it a few years and they'll all look different, OP

>>93838034
>Squirrel Girl was ugly in the beginning

So is henderson purposely going out of her way to draw SG ugly? Does that mean she can't bitch that people are put off by her?

>>93842468
There were no cigars left in postapocalyptic world he came from. So he probably gave up on smoking at some point. He mentioned the beer made of cacti and urine though.

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>>93842442
"Dur hurr what is Great Lakes Avengers??" said the pleb

>>93838034
I'm not judging it but every single female in Henderson's SG series looks the same way. It's just the style of artwork. Doesn't mean all of them are ugly or masculine.

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>>93838838
also a fun example. because its the reverse.

Black Canary. had short BLACK hair.

Wearing a wig was a key part of her character.
short hair, that can't be pulled.
And the wig helps conceal her identity.

But readers, artists and writers have been too stupid to remember this.
so she has been retconned to just having long blond hair.

>>93842697
As I said
>no one cared about

>>93842772
Neat trivia.

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>>93838746
Fixed that for you.

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>>93838034
For Ditko, that's fairly attractive.

>>93838825
>>93839109
>Resorted to frogposting.

Wow, you totally lost.

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>>93838239
>>93842525

Ill defend that costume
Spider Woman survived for decades only because of how good that costume is. She was like Glob Herman, can survive for decades only because he looks cool and artists love to draw him as background character.

Spider Womans costume was great, sexy, and iconic. The only reason people liked Spider Woman was how she looked.

>>93837988
I like short hair and i can see the appeal for tomboys. But all that means nothing if the characters are crazy bitches. Carol is trying to recreate minority report in marvel universe by arresting people based off visions without context and Crystal is okay with committing genocide on mutants and turning people into inhumans without their permission.
Squirrel Girl is just unlikable and i don't know who the last one in the bottom right hand corner is.
>>93844087
Barring Black Widow and She Hulk I absolutely agree

>>93838931
>>93838955
I don't even think it's on purpose, she just Really can't make anyone look appealing if her life depended on it.

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>>93844917
forgot pic

>>93838034
Henderson's SG isn't "drawn ugly", she's "drawn poor". Her eyes are often far apart and different shapes, the lips are crudely drawn, the nose often looks like it's broken, there is very little sense of structure in the skull in general.

Hell in >>93838472 she has pretty ugly features but it's drawn well, so it's unappealing for the right reasons.

>>93839123
you realize "femme" means "feminine lesbian" and not just "feminine," right?

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Wonder Woman is Best Girl. Marvel Fags BTFO.

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Why isn't Carol allowed to be this pretty anymore?

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This is what a woman looks like. Seriously, how can Marvel even compete?

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So, what does everyone think of WW rebirth so far? Personally, I love it. Rucka is amazing.

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>>93844719
Spider Woman has been a femme fatale since Day 1. Sexiness is part of her character. Shit, making people Distracted By The Sexy is literally one of her superpowers. This is one of the characters for whom it actually makes sense for her costume to be sensual and highlight her femininity and they replaced it with a jacket and shirt? come on.

>>93838746
I agree with the she hulk appearance here. she looks more like a hulking muscle beast than a fitness trainer

>>93838508
She is completely disproportionate
>thin waist
>thick thighs
>flat chest
>fat face like whoa
>negro nose and lips

The artist should be banned from ever drawing in comics again after that monstrosity

>>93838471
You'd really consider anyone here >>93838239 average or less in a real world situation?

Feminists seek to make everything as ugly on the outside as they are on the inside (and outside).

>>93838811
>intern
You know he was calling him that prior to that post right?

>>93845588
You've never seen skinny people with fat faces? Man, it happens. It is balls, but it happens.

>>93845811
I know, I'm just saying that at least tried to provide an argument along with it then.

>>93837988
Disney doesn't want us to buy comics they want SJW assholes to stop whining about their IPs in Twitter and Tumblr where they're trying to push movie ads for the normies.
Marvel Comics could close for all they care. Disney never loses their IPs to public domain anyway.

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>>93845298
To be fair, DC has been completely screwing up Iris West in the comics as of late. I think they;re trying to make her ugly so the black versions will look prettier by comparison.

>>93844087
>That fucking awful sameface DA artist Gamora

For what purpose?

maybe they don't think that people buy stuff solely to jerk to it

>>93844617
>No argument

>>93846388
>Male sexuality is bad meme

I wish female castration was a thing in the States.

>>93846434
if u want to masturbate just look up porn of the characters it isn't that hard my man.
not everything has to be immediately sexual

>>93839227
Spider-Man's costume doesn't suck and fits his character.

>>93846434
It's not, but you don't have to make EVERYTHING with it in mind. Some of these comics are for children you know?


Why am I talking to a troll. Ah sometimes it just feels good to argue without consequence I guess.

>>93837988
Marvel's big mistake throughout these years, imo, has been believing the desires of the targeted female audience were representative by progressive fans on twitter.

They would have been better off copying shows like Supernatural, Sherlock, and books like Birds of Prey. Instead, they gave over to the diversity advocates.

>>93846459
And not everything has to be interpreted as sexual. Do you think the leotards that female gymnasts wear are sexual because you're a fucking landwhale?

>>93846575
None of those other costumes suck and they fit the characters.

There is nothing wrong with the old costumes for the female heroes.

>>93847064
gymnasts are real life and not comic books tho

>>93838078
You know what?
This is fine. It's okay for a comic women to not be a supermodel, as long as its not a straight up ugly artstyle.

She's not beautiful, but I'm not actively disgusted.

>>93842287
Still ugly. Even amateur 15 years old artists can do better than that.

>>93838051
Do people actually like Deodickhead?

>>93847105
Ok and? What's your argument?

>>93837988
to be fair I think short haired girls are super cute. None in your image are though and this poor art design any hyper PC gurl power bullshit.

>>93847196
their outfits serve an actual purpose
what purpose do female characters u can jerk it to serve either irl or in universe

>>93844940
>Movie Avengers, but Carol is there too so we can try to make her popular.

>>93837988
I'll point out that Kitty was never meant to be beautiful. That was just the waifufagging ofartists and writers that degenerated her, and in turn her character, for the past decades. Claremont made it very clear in plenty of his initial comics that she was supposed to be the real everyday girl with normal looks who didn't like skimpy costumes and was even afraid of getting all big for training too much. Hell, it was Claremont himself who gave her the short haircut back in the fucking 80s. Twice! And then again in the 2000s! I don't think there's any room to complain about her.

>People defending crappy tumblr tier artstyle
Welp!

>>93847407
Do you know why gymnasts wear leotards? For movement and flexibility. The exact thing a female superhero needs. Most of them are bulletproof so there is no need to cover them up in armor. Giving Wanda a corset and pants only restricts her movement in a fight.

>>93847089
Gamora's costume is just random slightly sexy bullshit, it fits nothing. She's never had a good design in her entire history, including now.

>>93848127
Do you think Scarlet Witch's premise is a karate master?

>>93848339
Wanda has chaos magic. In a fight she's going to need movement to dodge attacks and get to spots where she can cast spells for maximum tactical efficiency. What if her powers stop working? She's going to need that leotard to maneuver her way out of danger. Pants and a corset defeat the entire purpose of her being a superhero. There is a reason why Spider Man wears spandex.

>>93848445
Spider-Man's one of the most agility based heroes in the industry with artists contorting his body into bug poses a every single opportunity. Wanda mostly had to walk, run, and put her hands up in weird gestures. She does not need Spider-Man's costume.

>>93838127
>filename
That's DC

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>>93848837
I love Captain DC.

>>93845859
I have seen skinny people with fat face. But squirrel girl isn't skinny. She is thicc in some spots, average in others, and all around ugly and disproportionate all around.

>>93847089
Wanda's Old Leotard costume fits her a bit with the embellishments but it's color is ugly given now we can use far more colors printing. I like the Wada's version.

Spider Woman's old one doesn't make sense. Neither does her new one really but what the fuck is the symbol supposed to be? dur a yellow spider. Yeah it's stupid. At least now she has a motorcycle so the jacket makes sense in that context.

I don't know enough about Gamora as a character but all that fucking green is hideous. That type of costume on a combatant could never stay on. At least have some way to show it's held in place instead of draped across her. None her costumes look particularly good.

Captain Marvel changed costumes with her name. Moonstone was wearing her old costume, I don't know if she still is. But the one was was stupid. I'm really tired of leotards. It's lazy.

X-23's costume change comes with a Legacy title to uphold so of course she's going to change to look like Wolverine.

She hulk is the only one I think is a bad move. It looks like the new one was a bikini but someone told them to add the white and it looks shitty. Some versions look better.

Black widow is the same costume. Zipped up. Which makes more sense. Why would a fighter want to give someone a good thing to grab.

We could have a real discussion about costume design but I doubt you really want that.

>>93847183
Eh, I'm cool with his stuff.

You guys really like to feel oppressed, huh?

>>93838665
She's a fictional character, she'll look however artists want her to look.
Every freaking artist has switched her look. Doesn't make one correct or the other incorrect.

Your waifu a shit

>>93838785
yes mr sherman, everyone is an intern

>>93837988
Because parents don't buy comics for their kids when they see a sexy women on the cover so they make the female heros more modest in the hopes of selling more. What marvel doesn't realise is that kids only care about batman, superman and spiderman so none of them will ask their parents for the newest copy of captain marvel.

>>93848781
She needs to be able to maneuver in a fight. What aren't you getting?

>>93838127
tumblrreadscomics.jpg

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>>93852223
one thing is covering them up, and other is making them ugly as sin.

>>93853228
Holy fuck that captain marvel is horrifying
>The squirrels are the best drawn characters.

>>93845298
She looks african in that one.

>>93853228
How does she manage to make everyone look retarded. Even Iron Man.

>>93849831
Not the guy you were originally arguing with, but
>Spider Woman's old one doesn't make sense.
That's a bullshit argument. It makes as much sense as Peter's suit. If you don't like it, just say so.

>I don't know enough about Gamora as a character
Then you probably shouldn't be talking about her at all. Just saying.

>That type of costume on a combatant could never stay on.
She's Red Sonja in Space, it's supposed to be a little nonsensical.

>I'm really tired of leotards. It's lazy.
What are you tired of when only a small percentage of Marvel heroines even wore them in the first place? Again, if it's just personal taste that's fine. Otherwise, don't state it like it's fact or anything.

>>93851692
Most characters retain a semblance of commonality between artists.

>>93846213
That's weird. The future version of her looked normal.

>>93838239

Literally everyone but Spider-Woman looks better

>>93838251
Tony having a perm was a Bob Layton fetish.

Same with the thick Tom Selleck mostache. 100% Bob Layton

Pretty much as soon as Bob was fired from the book, John Romita de-permed Tonys hair and his mustache got shaved down to a pencil mustache ala Silver Age Tony.

The stache eventually recovered it's full thickness but the perm never came back.

Also, Tony hasn't had the mustache look in AGES. Not since Heroes Return. One of the things Busiek did to Tony after Heroes Reborn was replace the mustache with a goatee, which has since been the defining facial hair for Tony.

>>93838239
Reminder that that raghead actually wrote for a propaganda newspaper for the fucking Muslim Brotherhood

>>93837988
>Why does Marvel think people will buy comics
a better question

>>93837988
From the neck up, there is no difference between Carol and Starbrand.

>>93856206
What? Do you have a source?

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>>93838078
Yeah. Dimension Z was a stupidass concept and any other writer would have ignored it. But here. Have a picture of pretty Sharon.

>>93844421

Exactly. Ditko can't draw attractive women anyway.

>>93838210

Kids don't like Squirrel Girl. They made her ugly because the creators themselves are ugly, inside and out.

Go look up Stuart Immonen's rendition of Squirrel Girl. She's dreamy and Logan slept with her unironically.

>>93859028
>Exactly. Ditko can't draw anyway.
FTFY

>>93853058
Wear baggy shorts. Also, none of her costumes protect against bullet.

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>>93838239
>Spider-Woman with a big pregnant belly
>She-Hulk with a body that's thicker than oatmeal
>Sue Storm in a sexy white jumpsuit that flatters her figure
A damn shame that modern comic artists have it out for the bare midriff though. I miss X-23 and Scarlet Witch's sexy tummies.

Kitty Pryde was never beautiful though.

Because every woman being a supermodel is boring. If women are supposed to be able to fight, they should look the part. If a woman can't or doesn't work out, they should look like it too.

There's no reason why Oracle, for example, should sit in a chair all day and look as she does. Just like there's no reason why they should have made Amanda Waller a supermodel.

Furthermore, there's plenty of ugly male characters. So what's the problem with varying up the designs of the women to make them anything less than 10/10?

Make squirrel girl a little stocky with a wideface. A better artist can do it justice but there's nothing wrong with that.

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I hate this so much.

>>93860627
Yeesh. She's turned from Yvonne Strahovsti to Jake Paul.

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>>93860762
kek

>>93845385
Making her choose to be a single mother is dumb as shit too. Makes her seem selfish and irresponsible. No one should choose to deprive a kid of two parents. You don't have a right to a kid. A kid has a right to you.

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>>93860627
You do not have to worry about Carol, Briefu synergy will save her.

>>93858920
If Slott can stay on Spider-Man forever, Brubaker should have stayed on Cap.

>>93845385
Feminine women really need to come back to comics.

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Black Mariah then:

Not even with a rented dick.

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>>93864307
Black Mariah now: A valid choice for BBW lovers.

>>93860627
All I can think of is that True Lies Jamie Lee Curtis copypasta and it's making me crack the fuck up

>>93864264
Look into Franco-Belgian comics, they never left.

>>93864326
can confirm, would fugg

>>93838052
It's okay anon, everyone is fine with you liking Mushashi from Getter Robo.

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>>93853228

>>93864668

Seriously where did Jess's boobs go, it's like a canon mystery they need to solve at this point

>>93865603
imagine how the well endowed girls seeing this must feel. how horrible to shame them like this.

Big titty body shaming. I never thought i'd see the day. it's true when they say women hate other women.

>>93844787
>Not being a cleavage man.
Shit taste.

>>93862978
Dick Casablancas!

>>93864668
It's like everyone in the first picture lost at minimum a cup side for their second picture.

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>>93864668