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So we all agree she was the most annoying aspect of an otherwise entertaining film right?
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>Ugh straight white male amirite
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>>93819058
No. I enjoyed her bits the most out of the supporting cast to be honest.
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>>93819058

The only thing we can agree on is that ur a fag, op
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>>93819058
She has a boy face. Also I can't tell if her inclusion was Sony's idea or Marvel's.
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>>93819058
I find it super weird how much /co/ threads focus on this character who had maybe a dozen lines.
She wasn't even the movie love interest.
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most annoying part of the movie was Peter having a fuckload of different webshooter options. it takes him away from his simple powerset and his creative uses for it
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>>93819058
She was fine, she wasn't even present enough to be annoying.

Ethnically-ambiguous Flash Thompson and Ned, on the other hand...
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>>93819058
That's not how you spell Flash Ravioli
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>>93819103
This. I found Ned and his constant screams of "AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME" got more annoying than anything.
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>>93819156
Disney, she literally comes from Disney channel
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>>93819058
wow a 4chan ghoul bitching about a person of color in a superhero movie. What a shocker!
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>>93819296
Is she from some shitty sitcom?
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>>93819156
She's like Rihanna. Neotenous enough to come off as androgynous. But she does have a flat and lanky body
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>>93819328
yep
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>>93819357
God, I hate Disney Channel.
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>>93819058
She was perfectly fine, only thing trash about her is the whole "MJ" shit.
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She was fine, everyone else but the Teacher and her was terrible
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>>93819058
That's not Ned. Or Flash. Or Happy.
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No, she was a cute.

Why do i like girls that look like they've been through some shit? That messy hair look just drives me insane
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>>93819328
>>93819357
Actually she is from two
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>>93819421
Happy was definitely the most annoying, Heck the whole movie would have been avoided if he answered a text or said something like "Good Job Kid we got the FBI on it." Though the same could be said for Tony
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>>93819301
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>>93819626
>>93819357
>>93819058

Why does she look so fucking different in all three pictures? It's not even a case of aging or anything, it's like there are three different women there.
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I liked the line about the Washington monument and the guard confirming it.
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>>93819184
i was hoping for a web parachute, mabey in the next one
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>>93819230
There was no need for Ned really
Peter should've been the one to hack the suit and Karen could've had Neds roll of "someone to give backstory to"
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She was barely in the movie, so no.

Go actually watch the movie instead of reposting the same 1-2 screenshots of this bitch.
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>>93820109
>Why does she look so fucking different in all three pictures?

Primarily hair & makeup.
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>>93820245
Except that it's factually incorrect. The only link to slavery during the construction of the monument was the mining of the stones.
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>>93821065
The guard didn't confirm it as such, he gave the "kinda" answer
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>>93821065

That's probably why the guard gave the "sort of" hand signal.
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why does this chick look so dirty
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>>93820109
It called "Makeup and Design artists"
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>>93821065
And you missed the joke where the guard gave a "Kinda" hand gesture.

Cry more about your revisionist takeover fantasy.
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>>93819156
>Also I can't tell if her inclusion was Sony's idea or Marvel's.

And the fact that that matters is everything wrong with /co/ and its discussion of capeshit movies.
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>>93821536

Because she's supposed to be an unkempt "artsy" girl, compared to the stylish Liz.
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>>93819058
The most annoying aspect of an otherwise entertaining film is people like you who feel the need to complain about bullshit over anything that might ACTUALLY be wrong with it.
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>>93819344
At least Rihanna has good tits.
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did they make her look ugly in the film on purpose or something?
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>>93823522
nawwwww
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I thought she was pretty charming, actually. I'm just glad they didn't lay it on real thick by having Peter "notice" her romantically just yet.

>>93823522
her character is supposedly to be a friendless, sarcastic loser so they left her with plain makeup. Anything glamorous would've been really out of place.
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>>93824077
Ah ok, was honestly curious since every film screen I've seen of her has looked bland
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>>93819058
She was the most pointless aspect of the movie.

She was not even set up as a romantic option.She was just there saying activism 101 things and that's it.
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>>93823379

Zendaya is perflat.
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>>93819058
She reminded me of a black version of Darlene from Roseanne.
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Liz was terrible, but the whole relationship sucked anyway.
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>>93819103
I liked her character as well.
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>>93821065
Oooh is that why he gave a kind of signal.

I assumed the director just misused the gesture for some reason.
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This is the first diversity shit show in the MCU. Black person, asian person, black MJ. SJW Marvel starts to intrude into the MCU. I bet after the second Infinity War movie the entire line will be revamped with Riri, Femthor, Chink-Hulk and Captain Negromerica. The end is nigh!
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>>93824608
>Black person, asian person, black MJ.

Queens is a multi-ethnic melting pot and not as white as a 1950s sitcom? Stop the presses!
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>>93820974
Also she is younger on the third. and she was supposed to not use make-up on the movie, I guess. Will we get an extreme makeover for the next movie? Stay tuned!
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>>93819058
I want her to stalk me
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>>93824608
>white boy wins in the end
>asian is the fat, nerdy loser
>brown girls both cast as love interest who want the white boy's dick
>brown guy cast as Flash who's supposed to be a big alpha jock who shoves Peter around all the time, but all he does is touch Peter's butt

Not as social justice as you might think.
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>>93824237
This. She added nothing to the movie.
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>>93823522
I like her look in the film than her glamour look you usually see in the press pics
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Peter should have been black.
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>>93824237
They make it pretty obvious that she's into Peter.
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>>93825042
This.

As a northeastern Asian myself I really hated seeing a fat, dark-skinned southeastern Asian somehow supposed to "represent" my kind.
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>>93819301
>Implying my issue with her is her skin tone and not her annoying personality
>Calling me a ghoul
Well you're just overflowing with resentment aren't you, sweetie?
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No, but she was the weakest thing in the film by far. Cut her out, and the plot doesn't change at all. Shes just, there. Hard to say what will become of her, audiences weren't buying the "MJ" thing so her chances of being Peters next love interest have gone down
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>Hurr she was so pointless

IF you haven't surmised by now that the only reason they put her in the film was so you could see her being all weird and conventionally unattractive so they could inevitably introduce her post-makeover in the sequel after Peter leaves high school
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>>93819058
She was funny. Especially her Hannibal Buress caricature.
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There wasn't a lot of people watching with me because it was late but most of her scenes didn't get many laughs from the audience.

Worst of all was the detention scene. No one laughed with that one and there was an awkward silence during it. Hopefully the i prove her character for the next movie.
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>>93819058
>So we all agree she was the most annoying aspect of an otherwise entertaining film right?

She would have had to have done anything or had any impact on the film in order to have been annoying. She's basically a non-entity.
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>>93826188
We all know anon, its just that it was rather forced and the "she'll be better in the sequel" doesnt magically make her any more relevant nor interesting in this film. Shes not a terrible character, just a completely irrelevant one. Though truth be told, its very apparent her presence was something more in an earlier cut of the film. I suppose they cut most of her scenes after people freaked at the possibility of her playing Mary Jane. The entire MJ stinger reeks of testing the waters on "Can we still use her guys? No? Alright".
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>my friends call me MJ

Oh please no. God no. FUCK no.
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>>93819058
She especially, you can also h8 the Designated Flash, all the others are ok
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>>93826174
>audiences weren't buying the "MJ" thing
do you have a source for this that is not 4chan screenshots, because everyone in the theater I went to loved it
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>>93826549
ofc
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>>93826549
From what I saw on social media commenting on official movie news/posts, a good number of people wanted Mary Jane, be they comic fans or fans of Raimis trilogy, I cant say. Also some of the most clickbait SJW sites still werent happy considering she wasnt really playing Mary Jane and felt like a cop out or whatever. Although I cant say for certain, this is just from what Ive seen online outside of 4chan.
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>>93825042
Don't forget
>black guys in the movie are criminals
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>>93826396
This.

Original MJ: red-head, smoking hot, model, a bit flaky.

Nu MJ: unattractive black, science-nerd, SJW.

At this point, why even name her MJ. Just make her a completely new character. This is just the whole deconstructivist bullshit that is fucking everything up these days.
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>>93820109
Are you retarded? In the case of >>93819626 this was 5 years ago. But for the others its obvious that makeup had a part. They deliberately made her ugly in the movie
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>>93819058
She doesn't have enough scenes to be annoying

I was more bothered by Gankned's autism
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>>93824578
>I assumed the director just misused the gesture for some reason
I didn't think /co/ was this stupid/autistic
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>>93819058
I actually enjoyed her and Ned, despite my strong misgivings. The SJW comment from her was kinda annoying and hamfisted.
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>>93819058

>OP triggered by black feminist who appears in about 5 scenes total.

BASED MCU WORKING THE SMARKS
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>>93819058

She was pretty entertaining and accurate as a outcast character who says smart ass shit all the time.
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>>93819058
Not
>aunt May finding out Peter is Spider-Man
>iron man being a key piece to the movie
>too many scenes of him as Spider-Man doing Bullshit instead of really helping
Also that scene where the random guy tells Spidey to do a flip. Literally what was the purpose? I thought the guy was going to make fun of him or something. Also the dude's voice angered me for some illogical reason
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>>93827198
Yeah, it's not like the Spiderverse has any character like that.

Except, you know, Spider-Man himself.
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>>93826729
She already is a entirely separate character (even the name is different; Michelle not Mary). The MJ thing was probably a test to see if they could just replace Mary with Michelle.
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>>93827333

The point is why give her the same name, if not to replace the original MJ with the new one. If in the new Thor movie a character named Beta Ray Bill shows up and she is an aging Chinese woman that can shoot lightning out of her eyes, people are going to be confused.

The only reason to give a completely new character the same name as an old one is to replace it. And of course, this begs the question, why did original MJ need replaced?

The answer seems rather transparent.

By the way, the same rationale can be applied to Flash.
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>>93827503
Its Sony trying to figure out what they can get away with, the MJ remark is them gauging audience reactions
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>>93827053
>made her ugly
I mean, they tried to. I'm amazed that "attractive woman who isn't made up" counts as ugly to so many people.
I'm not one to go "sheeple" but Jesus Christ how dumb are people that they actually think makeup, clothes and fake-looking hair are the attractives part of a woman?
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>>93827503
"It's a prank, bro"
-Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal
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>>93827503

I don't get why they even kept Flash's name the same at all. He's nothing like Flash, and not just because he's a brown nerd.
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>>93827718
Except that That's not even what she looks like without makeup. I agree with all your other /r9k/ opinions but they made definitely made her look extra homely
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>>93827718
>>93827843
Tbh I feel like I'm the only one who found her really fucking attractive in this movie.
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>>93819184
That was kind of the point, though. Peter stops using all those mode (except for the taser webs) and is more confortable using his normal webs in creative ways
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>>93827878
I'd agree with you if I didn't knowwhat she looked like before
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>>93827843
Actors wear makeup even when they're supposed to look like they're not wearing any.
Also I imagine you're referring to paparazzi shots, which are usually unflatering for everyone, they're not just without makeup, they usually only publish the worst ones because theat's what people want to see.

Also /r9k/ likes girls?
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>>93819058
I thought she was funny.

To me, the annoying bit was how every character was constantly going "WOW AWESOME" whenever Spidey did something or pulled out a new gadget.

I know it's awesome. Stop telling me how to feel.
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>>93819626
Is that Raven's friend?
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>>93828029
>duckface
>stupid pose
>le iconic angle
>hoop earings
>fake straight hair Michelle Obama haircut
Nah. Michelle>Zendaya.
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she has pretty nice bone structure desu
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>>93828069
Even that pic looks better than her look in the movie. I don't understand why they gave matted hair, like she never showered
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I lost track, how many separate MCU Spiderman continuities are there now?
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>>93828146
You like homeless girls. I get it
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>>93828398
You've never seen homeless girls if you think that's what they look like, Mr 2/10.
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My real problem with her is that the MJ thing at the end made it clear Mary Jane wouldn't be appearing in future movies

Maybe we still get Gwen though and she doesn't get murdered by a goblin this time. Or they go out of left field and give Pete one of his post school love interests like Silver Sable or Carlie Cooper
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>>93828480
I havent. But I'm sure you're well versed in that area
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>>93828793
You've never been asked money by a homeless girl? Time to leave the basement anon.
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>>93828831
>Living in/near the ghetto
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>>93828615
If Gwen shows up, she is going to be a genderqueer, transsomething or other and she is going to demand to be addressed with fing/fang/foom pronuns.

And then, I will be rooting for the Green Goblin to kill her ass. Sorry, fang ass.
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>>93828990
I live in a world top 10 quality of living city about a 10 minutes walk from the banks quarter. Americans sure are sheltered.
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No, she was fine. She had like 3 minutes of screentime max.
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>>93819058
Overall, I actually enjoyed her. Ned and Flash annoyed me more.
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>>93829058
>fing/fang/foom pronouns
Good Lord my sides. I'm gonna have to steal that anon.
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>>93829058
>>93829336
It's Fin* Fang Foom you shitlords.
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>>93829373
Stop oppressing me!!
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>>93819058
Have we ever agreed on anything? Even more when there was an express call to agreement?
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>>93829172
>3rd world country
>quality living
L
O
L
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>>93819058
so we all agree /co/ getting triggered by fictional characters is really sad and pathetic, right?
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>>93825384
but even then it was subtle and they didn't even made one scene where that is developed

Funny thing is,in the trailer there was a shot where she would look at peter with a cucked face while the other black girl was kissing him.

NONE OF THIS WAS IN THE MOVIE

Which basically means that yes,at one point she was suppose to have something to do in the movie but sony/disney decided to drop it.
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>>93829636
I mean we could but what else is there to do?
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>>93829636
I disagree
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>>93827283
>AY SPIMAN DO AH FLIP
>YEE
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She didn't have enough character to be annoying. Though her line about the Washington Monument was not only wrong, but forced as fuck.

My real issue with her is the total characterization change for a character that is supposed to be a shallow Supermodel. The whole point of MJ is her growth. This character is not MJ in any way but name.
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She was pretty pointless and yeah, she wasn't really funny. Why was there such a fuss about her when she was just lame.
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>>93831273
>Though her line about the Washington Monument was not only wrong, but forced as fuck.
Honestly that and the middle finger just felt so try hard to make her endearing when she was just more annoying.
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>>93820109
Photoshop, makeup and aging.
She aged like shit, she probably will look like a 30 year old man on her mid 20's
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>>93820109
It's called acting.
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hey guys i'll fix this so everyone's happy, except the shippers
>Michelle and peter start dating
>Stick together throughout high school
>in senior year green goblin shows up and offs pete's lady pal
>peter has sad face in crowd then hears someone shout "Hey MJ!"
>Pete turns to Mary Jane and awkwardly explains he thought he hears someone calling his friend.
>They hit it off and make sweet ginger babies
there, everyone's happy, we get our diversity character, but she kicks the bucket instead of gwen stacy, and then peter gets next love interest later down the line
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>>93827333
She was probably supposed to be Mary Jane but Marvel saw the backlash and just covered it up with, "lol it's an homage" that being said she was good in the movie. Though I wish Donald glover just played Hobbie brown I get they're going for miles but I like Robbie as a character and he didn't get enough screen time in the first few movies.
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>>93819058
yes
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>>93819058
I thought she was cute, social commentary aside.
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>>93827283
>not laughing hysterically at the DO A FLIP part
That really got to me. It just felt so real. If heroes exist that kind of shit would be happening all the time.
AY SPIDERMAN DO A FLIP!
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>>93819058
She had one or two good scenes, like I enjoyed the bit with her in detention, but jesus every other appearance was another >like omg straight white cisgender males like I just cant even right now
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>>93819156
Genderfluid, y'all
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>>93831273
>The whole point of MJ is her growth.
what growth? she's a perfect housewife supermodel that literally shows up on Peter's doorstep one day and hasn't changed significantly since.
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I didn't have a problem with Michele as a character. But that "mj" bit right at the end of the film just seems tacked on, like it doesn't belong there are was some vestigial scene that should have been on the cutting room floor. As other people pointed out, she wasn't even plot-relevant for this film, and it seems a meaningless addition trying to make her sound important. It is just not something that should be used at the end when it wasn't connected to anything.
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>>93819058
I dont understand the conplaints, i mean yah she doesn't contribute to the plot but neither does ned or flash, they're all atmospheric tools that make you believe he is in a highschool
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>>93829636
But muh white power
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>>93835747
Disrespecting Spider-Man's guy in the chair like that
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>>93835747
> Hacked the suit which contributed to the plot
> didn't contribute to the plot

RETARD ALERT
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>>93835875
we could have a solo spiderman like in amazing spiderman who did complicated shit himself
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>>93835825
>>93835875
What did Ned do that Peter or Karen couldn't?
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>>93819058
final joke was pretty lame too.
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>>93835922
Hacked the suit.
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>>93836039
>Hacked the suit.
Yeah, the film seem to imply that Ned is better than Peter on computer science. So Peter actually had to ask Ned to remove the training wheels instead of doing it himself.
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>>93836046
Of course, you can also argue that Peter is too poor to own a laptop, so he asked Ned only because it is Ned's computer.
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>>93819058
She's so fucking beautiful.
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She was fine, but completely unecessary to the story You could have taken away all of her scenes and nothing would have changed.
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>>93836352
This

Although i like her charecter she's negligible
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She got the most laughs out of my theater but I also live in New York so
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>>93836377
>Although i like her charecter she's negligible
I can understand that they have 6 films planned and as such wanted to lay foundations for the future, but I wish they didn't pull out the MJ thing right at the end. About all else it felt forced rather than anything a real person would say. It completely pulled me out of the movie.
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>>93823522
Since when are dark, thick and squared eyebrows attractive? Looks like they were drawn on with shoe polish.
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>>93819058

I liked her a lot literally up until I found out she was MJ.
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>>93836547
>Since when are dark, thick and squared eyebrows attractive?
Ancient Egypt.
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>>93834417
The dudes voice and the fact that he looked like some fat bitch just threw me off. I just really really wanted to punch the guy in the face
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