Marvel is backpedaling big time. http://www.ign.com/article

I'm so sick of dozens of threads about this bitch.

>>93768894
I wish she was MJ just to piss off the racist fans.

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>>93768894
Is everyone with the last name Feig/Feige a colossal piece of dogshit?

>>93768915
People are more upset about the waffling and Sony trying to have it both ways with a OC creation

>>93768915
>Wanting a character even vaguely resemble the character they are named after is now racist

>>93768858
>backpedaling

Define backpedaling. You think they're scared of the couple of idiots crying online about a nickname?

>>93768858
People have been saying that since for fucking ever. Sorry your outrage-driven headcanon wasn't validated anon.

>>93768922
No. Feig and Feige are completely different people, dumbass.

>>93768971
>You think they're scared of the couple of idiots crying online about a nickname?

Yeah, Feige has openly stated that this has been a colossal PR nightmare.

>>93768972
>outrage-driven headcanon wasn't validated
wut?

>>93768969
>named after
Oh yeah, remember Michelle from the comics, she's my fav

>>93768997
Has he? Or are you referring to the OP quote?

>>93768972
We've wasted so much energy on a character we knew since 8 months ago wasn't going to be Mary Jane not being Mary jane that we haven't talked how terrible a John Hughes/Spiderman mashup was going to be.
>like seriously John Hughes?

>>93769025
>"MJ"
>Not named after someone in the comics

>Or are you referring to the OP quote?
He literally says in the OP: "And then I think it leaked that she would be playing MJ and then it became a whole headache for Zendaya to have to navigate."

Feige has been playing damage control since the movie came out.

you are literally so autistic it's giving me secondhand embarrassment, you need to chill the fuck out and do something with your life op, this shit is unhealthy

>>93769056
Is her name Mary Jane watson.
>no
Then she was never supposed to be Mary Jane Watson.

>>93768858
>So we're so clever
i hope they fire this guy,he sounds like an asshole

>>93769080
No she's supposed to be Spider-Man's love interest named MJ, that's completely different

>>93768858
I thought they were calling her MJ cause she looks like a feminine version of Micheal Jackson.

>>93768858

Whats the problem with spiderman wanting to bang mixed/light skinned black girls? Is MJ being red haired and having a super model body the only important aspects to her character? Whats wrong with trying something new?

>>93768983
Wow, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not only read a post wrong, but to reply in such a completely retarded manner.
I feel legitimately sorry for your parents and anyone unfortunate enough to have to spend time around your downs-syndrome ass.

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>>93769047
>running-through-backyards routine from Ferris Bueller
>I got that ref-
>they just straight ups how the movie out in the yard with Peter saying "GOOD MOVIE!"

You could really tell that some idiot from Sony was afraid that the kids wouldn't catch the obvious references and made sure they put that in there.

>>93769080
Thing is, it's not that Zendaya is Mary Jane; she's "MJ" and she's replacing Mary Jane altogether.

>>93769056
...because journalist after journalist kept asking her if she was really Mary Jane, because her actual role in the movie fell into irrelevancy as people were more curious about the leak than what she or the director had to say, not because people hated her for stealing Mary Jane's role or whatever you're thinking

>>93769126
>sony
You mean Marvel.

>>93769110
It's pandering, lazy, and it's hard to care about characters that change dramatically every few years to satisfy the current zeitgeist

>>93769131
>she's replacing Mary Jane altogether
No she isn't.

>>93769170
Welcome to comic books, anon.

>>93769176
so who plays Mary Jane?

>>93769126
at least Cap didn't tell us to go home because the movie is already over.

although Deadpool already did that.

>>93769153
No, I don't. Marvel hasn't felt the need to explain their references in such an obvious stupid manner before, whereas the Sony people always act like goddamn retards. So it's a good bet that the retarded idea came from the retarded side of the collaboration, same place the "no big deal!" hip-with-the-kids v-logging shit came from.

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>>93769110
>trying something new
It's not exactly "something new" any more.
It's a Hollywood meme and it's outstayed its welcome.

>>93769126
>that the kids wouldn't catch the obvious references
Why the fuck WOULD kids catch it? How many parents do you think are showing their kids Feris Buller or how many kids do you think even give a shit about that movie?

I doubt you knew every single reference Animaniacs did as a kid.

>>93769080
Right, and John Blake was never supposed to be Robin, right?

>>93769187
That's not even remotely what I said, but yes, race is an aspect of her character

if they had left her white but made her rich instead of poor or a scientist instead of an actor it, particularly to pander to the audience, it would still have been shit

>>93769183
We don't know.

>>93769110
>Is MJ being red haired and having a super model body the only important aspects to her character?

Why don't you try reading a comic sometime and find out for yourself?

>>93769227
So nobody

When you have a long established character called MJ and you delete her and and add new character called MJ, that's a replacement

>>93769126
>>93769209
Knowing this generation, they'd assume that it was spoofing the Dominos commercial, not Feris Buller.

Hey fucko, go back to /tv/

>>93769225
>race is an aspect of Mary jane
No it isn't, race never played a factor in her character.

>>93769110
>Is MJ being red haired and having a super model body the only important aspects to her character?

Well, yes.

>>93768915

I can tell you don't like Mary Jane. The problem isn't even just not looking like her, is that she doesn't even have the same personality or even anything vaguely resembling the same personality.

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>writing the classic character MJ out of the movie
Wow, sexist much Sony/Marvel?

>up and coming disney channel starlet
>given a controversial role in the mcu, because who knows, her manager knew which strings to pull and she didn't want to be in the Descendants 2 or something.

Blame Disney for this one.

>>93769257
race plays a factor in every character, particularly with marvel who love to touch on social issues

>>93768858
I hope she is the MCUs Mary Jane Watson and I hope you screeching retards lose lots of sleep over it

>>93769278
How does race play into Mary jane watson's character then.
Explain how being white is central to Mary Jane watson.

>>93769209
So should Animaniacs have spelt out all of the references so that kids couldn't miss any of them? Of fucking course not.

Showing the exact scene on a tv while you're doing your version of it serves no goddamn purpose. Either the kid doesn't know about that scene and then having the same thing happen on the tv in the scene makes no sense, or they have seen it and shouldn't need it pointed out. It's done for the dumbest of mouthbreathers who would have asked "so that part where he ran through backyards was an homage to Ferris Bueller, right?" if they hadn't gotten definitive proof of it in the scene.

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>pair all white female heroes with black men
>pair all black female heroes with white men
>pair Asian women with robots
>pair Asian men with NO ONE

>>93769259
>this character that isn't Maty jane doesn't act like Mary jane.

>>93769294
Because MJ is a successful model that gets repeat exposure on real magazines made for normal women, not ebony fair and shit.

>>93769298
>It's done for the dumbest of mouthbreathers who would have asked
Who? Children?

Who the fuck are you insulting in this sentence, because you seem to be wildly moving your targets to express rage at a two second joke.

>>93769290
we've already established that she's the MCU's Mary Jane Watson, they just changed her name to Michelle and they cast a black girl to score diversity points

>>93769294
She's white, along with her red hair it's the first thing you'd notice about her

>>93769259
>this character isn't anything like Mary Jane!
Cause she's not.

>>93769330
Great, how much sleep have you lost? Please keep me updated

>>93769176
>called "MJ"
>budding interest in Peter
>a rebellious, free-spirited girl (much like what MJ was in 60s)
>played by a model
She is Disney's Marvel's New and Improved "MJ". Enjoy your cheese, mousekeeter.

>>93769330
>we've already established that she's the MCU's Mary Jane Watson
No you haven't, you made the claim but you never proved it.

>>93769352
>called "MJ"
Is her name Mary jane tho?
>no
Then it's not Mary Jane.

>>93769316
>>93769336

She's the character meant to replace MJ. Until the actual Mary Jane Watson shows up (she won't), this will still be the case.

>>93769336
that's the problem, why delete a long beloved character like MJ just for this pickaninny?

>>93769345
I just woke up, slept great, saw Baby Driver the other day instead of wasting my money on this Retcon nonsense

>>93769372
Of course she's not Mary Jane, but she's still "MJ". It's the same shit Nolan did in TDKR with Robin.

>>93769356
Who said anything about proving anything? do you have to prove that the sky is blue? No, it just is.

There was one MJ, now there's a different MJ, Mary Jane Watson doesn't exist in the MCU, why don;'t you prove any of that incorrect?

>>93769380
>She's the character meant to replace MJ.
Except that's something that inly you've been saying. This shit is like a vroken record right now.
>I can't believe they fucked up Mary Jane like this!
>she's not Mary Jane
>well she's her replacement
>but still I can't believe they fucked up Mary Jane like this!

She's Jonahs kid

> obsessed with Peter
> Dad is obsessed with Spidey
> Michelle Jameson
> last name secret for a reason
> callback to the Vulture dad reveal in the next movie

>>93769417
They fucked up because they cut out a hole where Mary Jane was supposed to be and in her place put a replacement straight out of tumblr.

>>93769383
>why delete a long beloved character like MJ
They didn't, you're assuming that they did and getiing outraged but that is an unfounded claim.

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>>93769326

>>93769383
>why delete a long beloved character like MJ just for this pickaninny?
Because having attractive women in your story is sexist and Problematic, didn't you know?

>>93769448
Mary jane was never involved in High school spider-man tho, She's only appeared when he was in college.

>>93769448

Pretty much this. Mary Jane will never be in these movies because they already have their "MJ".

>>93769466
unless you're an ultimates casual

>>93769082
I think that was being sarcastic, since he's saying it in the context of admitting the "clever" idea blew up in their faces.

>>93769329
Children who knows of Ferris Bueller and the adult capeshit crowd who can't think for themselves.

The scene simply did not need a tv playing the original scene in the background. It's like doing the Deadpool post-credits scene, except instead of just having Deadpool do the bit from the movie you also have the scene playing on the tv behind Deadpool, because you won't trust your audience.

>a two second joke.
Practically the first rule of comedy is that you don't explain the joke.

>Spiderfags have their 999th autistic fit of the day that Spidey doesn't have his boring token waifu

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>>93769450
Who's outraged? I'm simply telling the truth, there is one MJ in the MCU and she's not Mary Jane Watson, if you honestly believe they're going to introduce a second MJ named Mary Jane and she'll be the red head from the comics, good for you, but obviously that's a retarded premise, I shouldn't have to spell out to you why they aren't going to do that.

>>93769450
That does sound like current Marvel, they sure do love their ugly women

>>93768858
I hope she doesn't turn out to be the real MJ. I don't really have a problem with her being Mexican but she is ugly as fuck.....and looks like a man and is not ladylike at all

>>93769391
>It's the same shit Nolan did in TDKR with Robin.

You mean the character who had nothing in common with any of the Robins and who never became a Robin?

>>93769410
>Who said anything about proving anything?
You did when you said we've established she's mcu mary jane.

>>93769383
>delete

That's one funny way to look at things, they didn't use her = so they brutally murdered her character and everything she represents

Was Raimi cruel for "deleting" Gwen (at least initially) and using MJ as the first love that gets threatened by Goblin? Did you hate when the TASM movies "deleted" Gwen Stacy to replace her with a quirky nerd that stole her name? What about all the other spider-babes that these movies barely mention? So much deletion!

>>93769512
Is the character named MJ, is she in the MCU?

MARVEL IS DRINKING YOUR TEARS

>>93769380
>Until the actual Mary Jane Watson shows up (she won't), this will still be the case.

I don't think she won't show up. Especially if assuming your theory of her being a replacement is true. Making a new character, but the only similarity being the initials? Sounds like they intended it as a dip in the water.

I'm sure that they (assuming they haven't already) will change their minds about the character because of the negative blacklash they're getting and they'll either deliver a proper Mary Jane or write Michelle out and not use Mary Jane either.

>>93769479
To be fair, it's not exactly the first time the MCU has taken cues from the Ultimate universe.

>>93769527
>Is the character named MJ
No she's not, MJ is a nickname.

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Why do you guys talk about the same thing every day

this board is such shit lol

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>>93769503

They know damn well that she was intended to be Mary Jane, but when the leak happened they realized that their retarded pandering will get them nowhere they had to redo everything.

>>93769490
>Children who knows of Ferris Bueller
They don't. Children aren't watching old 80's movies unless their parents introduce it to them first.

>the adult capeshit crowd who can't think for themselves.
Oh, you're just a mad autist yourself who wants to sling around buzzwords. You should've said so, I wouldn't have bothered responding to you in the first place.

Next time be more obvious in your first post and say children who like capeshit or something so people know to ignore you right off the bat.

>>93769525
Why are you getting so worked up?

not using her is the same as deleting her from continuity, and yeah I think if I made a Spider-man movie I would start with Gwen and then move on to MJ, that's the proper way to do it.

I wouldn't make a brand new MJ and if I did I wouldn't cast her as some ugly wog and i would have written her a personality that men desire, because she's meant to be desirable.

>>93769502
>who's outraged
You are.
>I simply stating a fact
No you're not. You're making an erroneous assumption and refusing to back down from it.

>>93769557

Not exactly helping your case, anon. If I didn't already know that was a girl I'd be commending them on their tuckjob.

>>93769550
Way to move those goal posts

>>93769574
>Children aren't watching old 80's movies unless their parents introduce it to them first.
And most parents do.

Spider-man fans are cementing themselves as one of the worst cape fanbases on /co/

>>93769589
lol Ok so when they make the sequel and they have two characters running around named MJ we'll know you're right then, good luck with that

>>93769604
HAHAHA

most parents make their kids watch youtube

>>93769619
Michelle will be called MJ until Mary Jane shows up, Spidey jokes about two MJs in his life and Michelle becomes Michelle again

most obvious love triangle in the world

>>93769609
Wow what a surprise people bristle at forced diversity in movies, especially when they have to lose characters they love, what a shock, it's not like we have this conversation every time a black is cast in a white role.

>>93769604
Children don't care about their parents' interests. Or their parents' lives, for that matter. That's how the term "dad rock" came to exist in the first place.

Hell, young people unironically prefer the Star Wars prequels over the originals. So don't pretend the 80s aren't dead to kids.

>>93769574
>Children aren't watching old 80's movies unless their parents introduce it to them first.

Are you under the belief that parents showing their kids their favourite 80's movies are a minority? No shit children aren't all just watching random 80's movies on their own. Same way I didn't go out to watch random 70's movies but got shown them by my dad.

>>93769657
>implying anyone with a brain "loves" the character Mary Jane Watson

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>>93768858
>Marvel is backpedaling big time

They never said she was Mary Jane Watson. Never. Clickbait rumor faggots said that.

There's no backpedaling. Just you being a fool for believing every movie rumor on the internet

>>93769107
>a feminine version of Micheal Jackson.

You mean, just Michael Jackson?

>>93769656
The MCU is nowhere near as clever to do that.

>>93769690
people here have bigger persecution complexes than jews mate

Meh. I don't think they actually have that great of a chemistry. Her and the fat dude would be better.

>>93769656
You honest to god believe that's going to happen? Why do you think they bothered to develop Zendaya's character at all, call her MJ, just to throw her away on a joke that isn't even funny?

It would have been better writing to just never call Zendaya MJ in the first place, do you really think so little of the movie's writers?

>>93769609
>implying these autists are actual Spider-Man fans

Real Spider-Man fans would know better than to think MJ should show up in High School and since they're used to Spider-Man being fucked over they would know how to handle it better. Like some black kid having the nickname MJ is anywhere near as bad as Peter selling his marriage with MJ to fucking satan, to save an ancient old woman who's told him she's ready to die.

>>93769709
You mean the same MCU that made the Vulture an actually good villain as well as the prom dates scary father in a teenage high school movie? That MCU?

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>The character just happens to be called "MJ" but it's not MJ.
What kind of complete idiot came up with that?

>>93769619
That's assuming Zendaya is sticking around.

>>93769372
>I can only see surface value and superfluous details.

comic book """"fans"""" literally seething over a pair of fucking initials

get some help

>>93769753
The only way I could see it changing is if they thought about utilizing Zendaya as a love interest but change their mind between now and the sequel and just throw a new MJ in there for the relationship plot, but that seems kind of unlikely.

>>93769581
How am i getting worked up? I'm calling out your idiocy, and i want to judge the movie for what it wants to do instead of eternally focusing on what it could've been if it was a 1 to 1 copy of the comics

You don't like her character? Fine, nobody cares about all the rest about how her existence deleted another's and what you consider "the proper way to do it". If i had to reason that way for every CBM then I'd only be complaining all day. I already made the examples of the older Spiderman movies

And I'm a huge defender of MJ and Peter's marriage, mind you, i just realize that at the 3rd iteration of the big screen of the character in less than 20 years it's more than normal for the creators to wish to differ from what was done before. The fact that the movie still feels fresh despite being the 6th is one of the biggest praises it's getting after all

>>93769676
>Are you under the belief that parents showing their kids their favourite 80's movies are a minority?
They are. A lot of kids don't care for the "old stuff" and most of the time, parents just give them an iPad so they can watch unboxing videos or Lets Plays. You were part of the minority, there's still a lot of people your age who don't know shit about 70's movies. Probably far greater than those who do.

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Is there some kind of conspiracy in Hollywood to rid all of fiction from gingers?
>Annie
>Jimmy Olsen
>Wally West
What the fuck is going on?

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>>93768915
>racist fans.
Faggot please, me and a ton of other non whites at work made this and Flash Guatemalan Thompson the thing that bothered them the most about the movie. MJ not being a redhead was also an outrage to the Mexican guys.

>>93769718

goddamnit Hitler I thought you were dead

>>93769729
>Why do you think they bothered to develop Zendaya's character at all
What character m8? She's an archetype,
The rebellious punk chick.

>>93769503
>Mexican
She is half black and half white.

>>93769745
>good villain
>MCU
Nope. Try again.

>>93769800
which isn't MJ.a character, because she doesn't even have a character

I'll take a mean black bitch over the most vanilla and boring spidey love interest on the planet. What about betty? what about chat? what about the midget? all of them are better than MJ.

raimifags need to go

>>93768858
>But its definitely not intended to be taken seriously.
yeah it probably wasn't. this is the same movie where vulture killing his own man is a joke and may discovering peter as spidey is a joke. not sure if you noticed but this movie isn't supposed to be taken seriously.

>>93769790
>>93769662
>Kids these days don't care about ild movie
How the fuck would you know? Do you have kids? Do you hang out with kids a lot anon. Once again your entire argument rests on assumption.

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>>93769466
>She's only appeared when he was in college.

Unless you count the time she showed up and chatted with Aunt May in ASM #25 (since Peter graduated high school in #28 and all) and how Aunt May had been trying to get Peter to meet her since.

>>93769787
You're the one who got all hyperbolic out of nowhere, I'm just stating simple facts, the writers decided that Mary Jane was not worth including and they wrote Zendaya as an OC love interest for Peter Parker, I hope I'm wrong because that's pretty lame, but it's obviously their intention.

as fas as what that says about the movie, I'm not going to give them my money, you can go see it ten times and love it each time for all I care, go have fun, but I'll pay to see the Spider-Man movie where MJ is a white red-headed girl from queens, not this one.

>>93769201
You know, the fact that she's black didn't bother me, it was the fact that they were raised together, and she acts like *he's* the weird one for being a little uncomfortable with that.

>>93769503
>I don't really have a problem with her being Mexican

She's a white/black halfbreed.

>>93769842
oh and Peter turns down the thing he wanted the WHOLE movie AS A JOKE

>>93769107
Meh heh

>>93769294
She is probably one of the most famous fictional red heads in all of modern fiction.

>>93768858

we shouldn't gas niggers, we should gas nigger lovers.

>>93769557
He's a pretty convincing trap

Hey Americans, please explain: I thought Peter Parker was a top student.
If that's so, why did he have to go to a school that's 90% minorities?

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>Mary Jane Watson will never appear on the big screen ever again

>>93769862
that explains her looks

>>93769510
Who was explicitly named Robin? I'm not op and I didn't even mind that little twist but you're being intentionally obtuse if you can't understand what they're talking about.

>>93769903
>If that's so, why did he have to go to a school that's 90% minorities?

Doesn't matter if your grades are good if you're poor.

He can probably escape the ghetto when he goes to college and scores those Tony Stark scholarship megabux.

>>93769903
You're placed in a school based on where you live.

>>93769790
>parents just give them an iPad
Maybe your white-trash acquaintances do. That doesn't make it the norm for families who have movie-nights etc.

In case you hadn't noticed we're currently going through a massive 80's-nostalgia moment that in turn makes teens and tweens check out 80's classics. We're not talking about knowing about some obscure 80's b-movie, we're talking about John Fucking Hughes movies. The cornerstone of 80's teen movies.


> You were part of the minority, there's still a lot of people your age who don't know shit about 70's movies.
Oh yeah, sure, I'm in the minority for being able to catch a Jaws or Godfather reference. I'm definitely a special snowflake for knowing about movies made before I was born.

>>93768858
I'm just confused why they named her mj. If you wanted to make a brand new character, make a new character. Don't try to please fans with the name which is going to confuse fans.

>>93769926
Imagine how out of touch and desperate you have to be to think that most children know the movie Ferris Bueller. Good lord. You have NO FUCKING ARGUMENT. I could go outside and ask ten kids and my small sample would be a stronger fucking argument than your retarded delusion.

>>93768922
black man shoot hollywood homosexual and has his three concubines stand on him as he dies

>>93769915
You mean the name that none of the Robins have had as their legal name? Yup, that definitely means it's Robin and we should bitch and moan about how he's different from muh favourite cawmiks version.

>>93769954
MJ isn't Mary Jane's name

>>93769849
>How the fuck would you know? Do you have kids? Do you hang out with kids a lot anon. Once again your entire argument rests on assumption.
Yes, I do, that's why I'm able to make such specific fucking examples like using an iPad and unboxing videos. Because that's exactly what my nephew and all his friends do. They've even started making their own when they buy Pokemon cards.

The only time he watches old movies is when a reboot is coming out and his mother wants to show him the original movie before they see it (Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters). And he ends up always preferring the new one. He fell asleep for the original Star Wars but loved the new one. And he thinks the Alvin & the Chipmunks movies are hilarious but is bored by any of the old cartoons.

He's also obsessed with Minecraft even though he's never even played Minecraft. He's just obsessed with it because all his friends are, too.

A lot of kids are like-minded. You just need to know a handful of them and chances are, they all have the same interests because kids like to conform to what their friends are doing. Just because you grew up watching Ferris Buller doesn't mean they did.

>>93769926
>Maybe your white-trash acquaintances do.
>white-trash
>iPad

>>93769956
Go do it. Ask them. And come back and admit you're a twat.

>>93769903
Now you know why white and asian parents work their asses off to move into certain neighborhoods and get their kids into certain schools.

If you're the kid of a single parent, your parents don't give a fuck or if your parents are dead and your family doesn't have a lot of resources you're stuck in the 'diverse' school getting the shit beat out of you weekly while all of your classes are filled with violent, loud, rude, stupid cretins who ignore the teacher and spend the entire class fucking around.

I'd say it's a testament to Peter's intelligence that he managed to get into high school with his drive to succeed intact.

>>93769903
The type of school he's in has a system that is based on real ones in NYC where they are top-tier schools that do not discriminate based on race, economic background, etc. The only real requirement is top grades, but other than the, the selection process is nearly blind. They survive almost entirely on donations and reputation.

>ITT: /pol/ invades /co/ again

>>93769954
>I'm just confused why they named her mj.

No, you know exactly why they named her MJ, and their frantic lies after the fact to try to confuse the issue are not convincing.

They were planning to replace Mary Jane with a token diversity insert but were forced to backpedal when faced with fan backlash and now they're just trying to play dumb for as long as possible so you'll still buy tickets.

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>>93768858

>>93769903
If you didn't notice, he goes to a private school. The kids that go there are the best of the best.

>>93770013
>Hollywood racebaits again
>/co/ bites
>LOL /POL/ LOL

>>93769126
Yeah that was pretty annoying. Wish they would've just had the music from the scene playing instead.

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Has there been a single piece of Spidey media since SM2 that his cunt ass fans have actually enjoyed

>>93769956
Do I think Ferris Buller's day off is a 1st graders favorite movie?
No.
Do I think that most people, including kids cause this shit is in cable, have seen the movie at least once?
Yeah
Do I think the movie is extremely well-known in pop culture and therfore showing the exact same scene you're refrencing is redundant.
Obviously.

>>93768858
I didn't know Marvel made a real Damage Control.

>>93769956
>You have NO FUCKING ARGUMENT.

Your entire argument has been "no they don't", and getting really angry at the idea that kids would have learnt some 80's pop-culture references thanks to the internet and their parents.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off isn't some obscure shit, anon. It's been spoofed and referenced since it came out. Just the other year it was a huge superbowl thing. I'm not even American and even here people get when you're referencing it. You'd have to be literally 5 to not know anything about it.

If they didnt want you to think of her as the new MJ they would have given her a different name.

It really is that simple. Anyone arguing that this is a new character rather than an MCU MJ is like trying to argue that Spider Ham Peter Porker is an entirely original hero unrelated to Spider-Man Peter Parker.

>>93770048
>Do I think that most people, including kids cause this shit is in cable, have seen the movie at least once?
TV is dead. Kids NETWORKS are struggling, the fuck you think kids are wasting their time watching Ferris Buller re-runs on some movie channel?

>Do I think the movie is extremely well-known in pop culture and therfore showing the exact same scene you're referencing is redundant.
Except your entire argument is that it's kids who will get the reference. They won't. Especially considering that entire scene was silent and had no music which was a key part of the reference. Without it, it's just a guy running through a backyard frantically.

I doubt you even get all the 80's references in an average Family Guy episode, let alone kids.

>>93769981
Your nephew is clearly autistic, anon. He's not the average.

>>93770087
>I have no argument but I must post!

>>93769981
>Yes, I do
Do what nigga? You have kids then or you spending a lot times with kids? In what situation are you hanging with these kids?
You a teacher or something?
What specifically are you talking about when you speaking as the authority on kids these days.

>>93769743
See: >>93769850

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Why didn't they just call her JM, to avoid confusion?
It's almost as if they WANTED people to think that she's MJ.

>>93770036
>Trust me I'm not from /pol/ but don't you just hate when those hollywood jews racebait my fellow /co/mblrites
sure thing anon. now go back.

>>93769966
>>93769510
you're autistic

>>93770100
Holy shit, did you even read past that sentence, or are you actually serious with this post?

>>93770039
Isn't there some rule about being able to show 2 seconds of footage or music without having to pay royalties? If I'm remembering it right it was probably cheaper to have that short snippet on the tv than it would have been to play the music while he ran.

>>93770112
Yeah, that's why they just flat outsaid Zendaya isn't playing Mary jane.

>>93770129
That's actually a myth, I think.

>>93770042
>spider-man 1 and 2 are slavish adaptations of Lee/Ditko
>every other spider-man film grabs elements across every canon and interpretation of spidey

Woah it's almost like the movies that pull from larger pools of story elements have issues pleasing nerds that wants different elements expanded upon

At least with Spideys 1 and 2 it just comes down to: Do you enjoy cheesey Lee/Ditko Spidey? Y/N the newer ones are more complicated than that because they arent really based on specific stories

>>93770123
So his argument rest on one kid in a specific setting.

>>93769800
>The rebellious punk chick.

You've never actually seen a punk chick before, have you?

>>93769500
>Mouseketeer have their 1000000th damage control posts for their corporate overlords.

>>93770036
>black people having a role in anything is racebating
>muh es jay double u's

Lol.

>>93770134
No, she's playing MCU's version of MJ. Why would they call her MJ if not to call to mind the character of MJ from the comics?

>>93770098
That's been you the entire time. Your autistic nephew isn't proof that nobody who wasn't born in the 80's could catch a pop-culture reference.

>>93768915
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>93770170
You literally stopped at the word "nephew". Not even "and his friends". You stopped mid-sentence just to post.

Fuck, I can't even get you to sit down and read a couple of sentences for half a minute, you think any fucking kid is going to sit down for 90 to watch Ferris Buller?

>>93769842
>yeah it probably wasn't.

Which is why the had an entire scene, specifically and only to reveal that Michelle is MJ, right?

If it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, why was that scene even in the movie? Why couldn't the "nod" be inserted into any of her other scenes?

>>93770172
We're talking about movie teen archetypes.

>>93770190
It's more proof than, "Y-YES THEY DO!".

If you want to keep thinking kids are falling for 80's movies, then go at it. At least I know no kid is getting lured to your van when you have no idea what the fuck they even like.

>>93770193
Your argument is still trash.

>>93770134
But the character is called "MJ", the nickname of Mary Jane.
Why would you pay to see a film made by someone so uncreative that they couldn't even come up with another name?

That bitch and fat chink are the only big problems with the movie.

>>93770225
Fighting fire with fire, I suppose.

>>93770183
>Why would they call her MJ if not to call to mind the character of MJ from the comics?

They'll probably not continue with it considering all the negative sentiments they're getting. They'll probably have the characters continue to call her Michelle. Assuming she even comes back in the next one.

>>93770213
It's not proof, we don't even know if you even have a nephew.

>>93770213
Our argument isn't based on "yes they do", though. It's based on the fact that the scene is part of pop culture around the goddamn world, which means that even a kid just browsing youtube will run into it.

>>93769170
>pandering

And keeping """"""MJ"""""" as a red head soon to be super model isn't somehow?

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>>93769966
Yeah, its not like the movie ended with "Robin" discovering Bruce's batcave and taking up the mantle.

'Cause there has never been a Robin that has ever taken over the title of Batman, right?

>>93769979
She is literally the only character in Marvel comics that uses those initials as her nickname.

>>93769792
its called pandering. people who work at big corporations tend to live in a bubble, so they go online and see what the big trends are, and progressiveness is hip now so in an attempt to get the new generation to buy a ticket they pander.

why is this hard for 4chan to process? there's no big Jew conspiracy, its just shitty marketing.

>>93769966
The movie ends with JGL getting called Robin and then becoming the second batman. If you think that Batman taking on a disciple named Robin isnt referencing the comics youre retarded

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>>93770251
Pic related was based on someone and used all the goddamn time, I doubt you even knew who the real life counterpart was.

You're giving fucking 10 year olds way too much credit to know every reference just because it's easy for you since you already grew up with them and are an old man.

>>93770246
Even if I didn't, the fact that Pokemon, Minecraft, and unboxing videos are all insanely popular with kids means that kids generally have the same interests.

>>93769979
I bet you everyone in the Marvel universe has called her MJ

>>93770213
Dude

You're retarded.

>>93769979
Spider-Man isn't peter parker's name.

If another character named Parker Peterson started running around calling himself spider-man, he would be a Spidey derivative, not an original character.

>>93770332
lmao good comeback xD

>>93769110
That was her entire point. That despite all the awful shit in Peter's life, that at the end of the day he was coming home to a beautiful woman who understood and loved him.

Which is why One More Day happened because angry writers didn't think that was relatable

>>93770270
But that's Dick, not some cop named Robin who's obviously a new character since he shares none of the background with any of the old characters, except for being named the same as their nickname.

Almost like this chick who shares none of the characteristics, background or even name with the character she apparently is, all there is is her using the same nickname.

>>93770345
What's wrong with telling the truth?

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Clearly they were thinking about the switch, but didn't, becuse of nerd rage.

>>93769110
>Whats the problem with spiderman wanting to bang mixed/light skinned black girls?
Nothing. Pic related. If they wanted a light skinned black girl as a romantic partner, they should have used Chat instead of their shitty off brand.

>>93769257
>Is MJ being red haired and having a super model body the only important aspects to her character?
Your argument would be better here if you were able to give lots of shit important to her character aside from her iconic look.

> Whats wrong with trying something new?
You have a strange sense of new. Are you new to /co/? /cotv/? this universe?

>>93769311
It's "replace asian men with pretty much anything, black men (mordo), White men (mandarin), white women (the ancient one).

>>93769555
For the same reason why you went to this board, went to this particular thread, and decided to not only post, but to take the extra effort to include an image.

>>93769685
Even if you're right

>>93770251
>It's based on the fact that the scene is part of pop culture around the goddamn world, which means that even a kid just browsing youtube will run into it.
Watching a couple videos of kids react to shit will immediately tell you anything you THINK is well known and popular is not in the slightest. Half of them didn't even know who Michael Jackson was.

>>93770366
But if he's unrelated, why did they put in a scene that called him Robin? The audience likely would not make that connection if that scene wasnt there.

>>93770242
Only /co/ is complaining. Everybody else loves that the new Mary Jane is a woman of color and woke.

>>93768858
Wait, I don't get why everyone is freaking out. We've known she was Mary Jane since the moment she was cast.

>>93770395
Asians aren't -real- minorities because they have a low crime rate and place high importance on education and money management.

That's why it's okay to replace their roles with literally any other race, just like white people.

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>>93768858
The character herself doesn't bother me, it's the fact that they tried to replace classic Mary Jane for this dirty looking cunt. And people who are defending this saying that it's fine to try something new for the cinematic universe would lose their shit if they turned a character who has consistently been black in the comics from the time of their conception to a white person. People who think Marvel doesn't have an agenda by now are fucking retarded.

>>93770411
This delusion is amazing.

>>93770451
And no one is buying it.

>>93770313
Guess what? Some kids DID get that reference. I know, it's mindblowing to think that some kids catch references that other kids don't, or that kids your age might have understood things you didn't. But the crucial part is that the kids who DIDN'T get that reference wouldn't have been better off if the cartoon had suddenly started playing Peter Lorre movies in the middle of everything, just to make sure they got who and what the character was referencing. Because that's a terrible idea.

Explaining a reference while you're doing it is goddamn retarded and I can only assume that you work for Marvel or Sony since you're so hellbent on defending it.

>>93770464
>itvss the fact that they tried to replace classic Mary Jane for this dirty looking cunt.
They didn't even do that, they used a different character and that's it. Nothing is stopping them for using from Mary jane and the idea that they can't because they're so fully committed to Zendaya is baseless.

>>93770488
> Some kids DID get that reference.
Really? You know this for a fact hm? Interesting the amount of bullshit you're capable of spouting when it comes to being outraged at a five second joke in a 2 and a half hour long movie.

>>93770396
Kids react is fake anon, they're actors being couched.

>>93770396
You mean the series that makes money off of hilariously showing kids not knowing about things are showing kids that don't know about things?! By god, what a surprise!

I bet you think "reality" tv isn't scripted and staged as well.

>>93769490
>adult capeshit who can't think for themselves
Is getting a reference really 'thinking for yourself', buddy? You're talking about this like it's the death of liberty but it's really just an extra moment for the people who made it to the end of that scene without realizing it was a joke. Oh gosh I can feel my brain melting already, I can no longer make decisions because of this scene.

>>93768915
I'm more upset about THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT WAS BUILT BY SLAVES

>>93770548
>you know this for a fact.
Yeah I do cause I'm one of those kids who knew what Peter Lorre sounds like. Technically everyone does, they might not be able to put a name to the voice but they get it.
>this is an old hollywood reference.

>>93770573
My 70-year old dad groaned in the theater. I can only imagine what sort of hellish reality a 20-something year old must be living in if they act like a 70-year old man.

It wasn't even a statement by the movie or writers, that's just how that particular character acts. And even THEN, it was a joke-y way for the writers to have one member of the group down on the ground so she could say MY FRIENDS ARE UP THERE! to Peter, who knows who those friends would be.

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>>93770452
>>93770395
The Progressive Minority Tier Ranking:

>shitlords
Whites, Asians, Indians

>possible shitlord status depending on whether they've committed a crime or not
Hispanics

>'actual' minorities
Black people of any ethnicity, Arabs

>'mysteriously not a minority despite being the victim of the majority of hate crimes'
Jews


Tier 1 can be replaced by anything in Tier 2 or 3 in any mainstream media, but god help you if you try to replace anything from 2 or 3 with 1 and 4. Tier 4 is completely despised despite progressives claiming to hate Nazis.

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>>93768858
>bilt by sleves you whiteboy
You are not MJ anymore

Wait, why would you have this otherwise unused character's final line be 'uh... call me MJ' followed by a gag about her maybe knowing Peter is Spiderman, if it was not meant to be a stinger? They just rename characters in the last scene of movies, now?

It's the same as TDKR's Robin.

>>93770042
Spectacular Spiderman

>>93770548
I'm not outrage over the joke, I just think they ruined by showing the exact same scene they're referencing.
>get it! Like Ferris Buller's day off!

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>>93768915
Lets make Storm white in the next X-men movie in order to piss off racist fans.

>>93770313
>I doubt you even knew who the real life counterpart was.
Only a complete faggot (like you) wouldn't know about Peter Lorre.

>>93770620
>It wasn't even a statement by the movie or writers

given how everywhere that isn't some crazy neo-nazi kkk outlet has an SJW slant nowadays how am I supposed to know this?

>>93770660
>>93770345

>>93770673
Because in the second half of my post, I state the actual intent of script's purposes for why one person of the group had to be on the ground.

Spiderman didn't know his friends were in the elevator at the time, someone needed to tell him. So they figured out a silly way to have one person stay on the ground who would still fit her personality of being "that person".

>>93770620
She was fucking useless Peter was talking with Liz and Ned on the phone. She needs to be edited out on the home release.

>>93770657

I wouldn't be mad at that, she already a mutant = minority.

>>93770651
It was barely a reference without the music, though. If anything, they should've had the music, but then that would've been dumb and more out of place than someone watching the movie.

>>93770702
they could just have easily given her a fear of heights.

Now everybody who sees this movie will actually believe her and think the Washington Monument was built by slaves.

>>93770711
Did Ned say he was in the monument at the time? I honestly don't remember the exact conversation, just that at a certain point, Ned would not pick up the phone and couldn't get a hold of him.

>>93770702
>>93770711

>>93770213
So when you were a kid you never watched any 30 year old movies? Not once?

>>93770735
But that's not "funny", anon. I know you didn't find the joke funny, as well as the response of the black security guard making the hand motion, but the type of people who watch these movies do. And that is who the writers are writing these jokes for.

>>93770747
yes

>>93770765
I did, but that doesn't mean I watched every single one. I didn't know what Soylent Green was until my 20's, even though that's "super mega popular".

>>93770735
It was a joke, don't be so easily offended

>>93770620
Sure buddy, it wasn't a statement. They just thought America would enjoy a gag where an educator is explained he's wrong about slavery by a pair of disgruntled minorities. I really enjoyed when he got served for trying to talk down someone's disgust to stand on American soil. It was simply written to an audience but it 'didn't mean anything'.

>>93770747
I forgot to add yes that's why he ran straight to the monument and not the place where the meet was.

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>Stark tech suit
>hacked by 15 year old fat asian kid

Plothole?

>>93770815
Woah pal, calm down with the /pol/jection there, you'll make yourself dizzy. The teacher and black guard both made dumb SNL expressions. If you think it was any serious statement in any way, then it really must be sad being you.

>>93770787
>I didn't know what Soylent Green was until my 20's

How the fuck do you not know that Soylent Green is people when that's the whole thing people always shouted? It's literally the entire reference. Do you live in some third-world shithole where nobody ever brought up soylent green? Or do you mean that you didn't know where the reference came from? Because that means fucking nothing.

>>93770881
you can literally search about it on media outlets and they refer to the MJ character as "woke"

>>93770877
It's like kids jailbreaking their phones. They were just lucky that not-Ganke didn't brick the suit.

>>93770787
So why are you so butthurt over the suggestion that kids today have watched movies from the 80s?

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>>93770735
>Now everybody who sees this movie will actually believe her and think the Washington Monument was built by slaves.
Black people will believe everything and anything that helps the kangz narrative, even if it's outright lies.

And now they'll tell each other to go see Spiderman because it's "woke", as one review site put it.
It has never been easier to part a sucker from their money than it is in the year 2017. All you need is racebaiting and a little manufactured controversy.

>>93770881
Careless statements are best left for fake news CiaNN

>>93769110
It's called being loyal to the comics, and the character.

I bet my left nut that if Spider-Man had blonde hair, or Superman were Chinese, people would bitch just as much.

People were already bitching about the fact that the Raimi movies had organic webbing.

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>>93770180

>>93770996
organic webbing is better

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>>93770261
>keeping a character true to their classic representation is pandering now

This does not suits the SJW narrative that Blacks are supreme being yet white women are the best breeding material?

For everyone saying that they're not being screeching retards, sure seems to be a lot of screeching retards in here

>>93770929
Because it's the implication that they ALL do. Like this shithead right here:
>>93770890
One person hasn't seen the movie or didn't get the reference, "What are you?? Some kind of third-world faggot?".

>>93770341
So... Miles Morales?
As a sidenote, you don't get to be mad that people call you "black spider-man" when there is 1) already an established spider-man 2) you're black and 3) you're fucking suit is also black.
If the whiny crybaby doesn't like it so much just change his super-hero name to something else.

>>93770907
>>93770956
>"woke"
If Trump being elected wasn't enough to tell you that SJW doesn't sell, is a very small minority with a loud megaphone, most people are sick of that shit, and the only ones who talk like that are ones trying to get clicks, views, or likes, then I don't know what else could possibly happen in your world to tell you stuff like that is failed marketing stunts, not actual opinions.

>>93771058
black men+white women and black women+white men is the true combo

>>93768858
How does Marvel, being owned by the Money Generating Goliath that is Disney, keep making so many stupid decisions?

>>93771108
a small minority who seem to have a huge grip on the media and the entertainment industry and cosmopolitan areas.

>>93771111
Why do you think so many black men don't want to date black women anymore?

>>93771069
I can guarantee that all kids today have watched movies from the 80s. Most should at least know what Ferris Bueller is even if they haven't seen it. If some kids don't get it, so what? It's moronic to explain the joke.

You think you're an expert on all children because you know one, it's unbelievably retarded.

>>93771069
>or didn't get the reference
Get what? The entire reference is "Soylent Green is people!", how in the hell do you not know what Soylent Green is just based off of that? How did you even realise that you didn't know it, did you have some weird friend asking you "do you know what Soylent Green is?" and then you couldn't answer him?

If what you were really saying is that you didn't know what movie that's from then that's beside the point, because you could still recognise a pop-culture reference just from how often it's repeated. Just as a kid could recognise that a cartoon was referencing Peter Lorre without having seen all of his movies.

>>93771141
Yes, media that people have been trusting less and less now. Even their own followers.

>>93771183
Cuz dey wuz kangz, and kangz deserve better than some ghetto ho?

>>93771225
the problem here is it's still making its way into the media en masse. As you can see with the whole "woke" character.

>>93771209
>You think you're an expert on all children because you know one, it's unbelievably retarded.
You're right, I should have better arguments like assumptions that people should know this because of reasons like, "Of course they should know it, God!".

93771211
This post is so stupid I'm not even going to give it a You.

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>Ghost In The Shell protagonist, who is Japanese, is made white for no reason
>"Lol why are SJWs so sensitive? It's no big deal, it's just a movie"
>Eye candy side character in Spiderman, who is white, is made biracial for no reason
>"This is an outrage! Pandering! White genocide!"
Hmm.

>>93771301
> because of reasons like, "Of course they should know it, God!".
That's never been the argument, you retard. The argument is that it's a part of pop-culture that 90% of people know because that's what makes it pop-culture. We're not arguing that all kids know the name of the bus-driver in Ferris Bueller or some other esoteric knowledge like that, just the bits that are famous and has been referenced countless times. Beyond that the argument was also that doing the reference and then making sure everyone got it by explaining the reference is bad film-making, just as when you explain your joke to make sure everyone understood it.


>This post is so stupid I'm not even going to give it a You.
How fucking sad can one person be.

>>93771397
If you saw the movie you'd know that she still is Japanese.

Besides, she didn't go around spewing "woke" leftist garbage out of her mouth at all times.

>>93771397
Everyone complained about that and the movie bombed you dumb fucking shitgobbler.
Find a rope, google how to tie a noose and then hang yourself from the ceiling until you stop breathing.

>>93771141
Just come out and say jews anon.

>>93771183
>Why do you think so many black men don't want to date black women anymore?

Black women are abusive and kind of sexist

>>93769432
>secret

it is jones you dumb FU K

>>93771397
When did they put Mary Jane's brain in a disgusting brown body in the movie.

>>93771435
They literally changed the plot as a way to get around the backlash. If no one had complained, they would've left it as-is.

>>93771455
Not everyone. There were still people who insisted it was okay because "Scarlett Johanssen is just the best actress!" and only SJWs should care. Look at the threads/opinion pieces/YouTube videos made about it before it came out, retard.

>>93771301
>You're right, I should have better arguments like assumptions that people should know this because of reasons like, "Of course they should know it, God!".

But assuming that no kids have willingly watched 80s movies because "muh nephew" is somehow a good argument?

>>93771435
>Besides, she didn't go around spewing "woke" leftist garbage out of her mouth at all times.
>at all times

I only recall the Washington Monument thing. Most of her character seemed to be her being comically rebellious and hints that she likes Peter.

>>93771455
>getting this mad over a 4chan post

>>93769246
Mary Jane didn't meet high school Peter though.

Liz Allen is black AND the vultures daughter! Fucking marlel, amirite fellow 'pedes? Praise kek and deus vult brothers!

>>93771108

Trump lost by three million votes, the Republicans won because they're smart as fuck at gaming the system, not because 95 percent of Americans are sick of SJW shit.

Yes, I realize that 50 percent of Americans are sick of SJW shit. But there are still a lot of Americans who aren't, and if the middle and working classes hadn't taken a beating over the last 10 years, there'd be a lot more Americans who wouldn't give a fuck about it.

>>93770106
They never actually meet until Peter is in college though, which is from where the whole "You just hit the jackpot!" scene comes from - her big reveal.

>>93770526
Please, show me some examples of MCU characters that share identical nicknames or have identical initials.


Oh wait. It has never happened before. It won't start here.

>>93771659
So thank god for the electoral college system, so NYC and San Francisco doesn't get to decide what 90% of the rest of the country has to do.

>>93771397
>made white for no reason
The reason was "ScarJo will bring more people to the theater than a literal who Japanese-American" Zendaya isn't even ScarJo level (which turned out to be not as high as they thought it was)

>>93771769
It's actually NYC and LA. LA is the second largest city in the US with 3 million, SanFran has less than a mil.

>>93771769
>thank god for the EC for ignorong 3 million votes
How is that a good thing tho? If you're ignoring 3 million votes than something os obviously broken here.
I

>>93771818
Point still stands.

The Washington Monument was absolutely not built by slaves so if you think about it it's probably a fairly meta-joke about how unfounded and devoid of merit modern black grievance is

Nu-MJ being a characteristically clueless #BLM slacktivist is actually quite funny, I hope they continue it as a running joke in the sequels (maybe something about the wage gap? lmao)

>>93770996
>organic webbing is better
This^

>>93771777
Another example of the SJW's not putting their money where their mouth is.

>>93771875
Muh daddy trump

>>93769869
It seemed more to me like he didn't really consider what it would mean to be an Avenger until Tony talked about him moving into the facility.

>>93771875
You mean like how the DNC ignored all those votes in the primary to force an unlikable she-devil as their candidate?

>>93771875
It's about the State rights we have 50 of them and they all have their own boarders

>>93771555
It's way less retarded when you actually use a kid as an example than just assume all kids do. Especially when one of the responses is, "Do you know kids?" and you go yes, then immediately say, "Well he doesn't count!".

Quit moving your fucking goalposts around.

>>93771416
You realize how many fucking pop-culture references are out there? You think kids are aware of every single one of them? Ferris Buller isn't at the same level as the Matrix slow-mo or "Who you gonna call?". As far as pop culture references go, it's probably in the middle ground as being recognizable to kids. You think most kids would also get a Gremlins or Breakfast Club reference?

And there's already been a dozen posts telling you the joke would have been better if blank instead or that it was probably done for licensing whatever purposes, yet you're so fucking hellbent on insisting that this one moment somehow dragged down the entire comedy of the film, you're being literally autistic about it.

You didn't like the execution of the joke. But in a thread about MJ, why the fuck did you feel the need to spaz out about it?

>>93771919
The DNC didn't ignore any votes, Clinton just had the most votes.

Can the autists slapfighting about the Ferris Bueller reference please sit the fuck down?

They're making it harder to convey to the idiots denying that Zendaya = MJ that they're laughable and contemptible, our mockery's getting diluted w/ your vacuous noise (thanks in advance)

>>93771769

So you're okay with a liberal Vermont hippie's vote counting three times more than a Bible reading, gun owning Texan's?

>>93771949
It's a federal election tho.

>>93770996
> side character
> important to the story
nah senpai. Next you're gonna tell me Valkyrie shouldnt be black because reasons!

>>93772013
I've lived in Texas, so yeah actually.

>>93768922
Did someone cast the gorilla from Filmation's Ghostbusters in the all-girl reboot?

>>93772014
and each state has reps that make the government.

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>>93768915
>watched the movie yesterday.
>all she did was be a quip machine.
>Personality of an smug edgy teen.
>lol so random.
I had no problem with any other of the classmates peter had except her and then when the movie is ending.
>"They call me MJ"
>MFW

This is a fucking self insert isint it ?

>>93771957
>hellbent on insisting that this one moment somehow dragged down the entire comedy of the film

No-one's doing this. They're all saying that it dragged down the scene where it happened. Which it did.

>>93772082
Wrong.

Losing elections tends to make the winners super arrogant and make the losers super pissed. What happened in 2008 after Democrats got Obama and a Senate supermajority along with control of Congress? All the SJWs came out of the woodwork because they thought Democratic governance would never end. And then in 2010 Republicans bitch slapped them.

These things are cyclical. They are ALWAYS cyclical. Even if Republicans keep winning for the next 20 years, eventually libs will wise up, run the next FDR, and smash conservatism to ribbons.

Lmao @ the poor pleb forced to pretend JGL wasn't Robin just because it shits mightily down the throat of his argument

Gotta love shills

>>93772117
The credits has special thanks to BM Bendis so its probably his fucking mutt children. like Riri

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>>93771111
Quads of truth


Anyways, I'm legit mad about the monument. It's one thing to paint a character as a radical she. That can be fun. Look at boondocks. It's another to have the fucker that works at the monument say what she said was true. Only maybe did slaves work in some of the quarries that supplied a small portion of the monument, and only for a time since it finished construction after the civil war. Fuck you writers

>>93772189
Radical sjw. Fucking autocorrect

>>93772141
liberals won't exist in 20 years. they won't get a trump that saves their party by calling them on their shit, their oppression olympics won't allow it.

>>93772170
He was A Robin. Bitching about him not showing up at a circus or whichever origin you prefer makes as much sense as bitching about this MJ totally being the same as OG MJ despite nothing aligning and the writers even saying it was just a joke, just so you can further bitch about how they ruined the OG character.

>>93772189
Nah, see the post above about how it's a clever in-joke about how sad and empty modern black grievance is

That's actually a pretty great concept for a character

>>93772241
I was around in 2002 and 2004 when Republicans were acting as though they'd have the legislative and executive branches forever. 2006 put a stop to that.

>>93771777
>The reason was "ScarJo will bring more people to the theater than a literal who Japanese-American"
They could've made ScarJo a supporting character. Regardless, they still failed, which means they changed a character's race for no reason and rejected actors who would actually fit that character's role. Why are/were you not similarly angry about that?
Also, in Zendaya's case, capeshit sells no matter what, and teenagers in the current year like Zendaya a hell of a lot more than Scarlett Johanssen. Which, of course, means you have more reason to be okay with Spiderman now.

>>93769792
>>93768915

gingerism is the only acceptable form of racism in our hypocrite "tolerant" society
but since its not "mainstream" nobody gives a shit

>>93769850
Look at that sly old bag, she's literally FEEDING off the schadenfreude on this page.

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>>93768858
>There's nice chemistry there
fucking where? the most they talked is at the end

>>93772248
Lmao who's this retard that can't even follow his own argument for a single sentence?

This is OBVIOUSLY the MJ of the MCU, you'd have to be clownishly, mesmerizingly impaired to pretend otherwise... they stopped the movie to literally spell it out for you and you're plugging your ears? Hahahaha hahaha I love it

>>93768858
Fucking they're just distracting you from the fact that all of phase 1 happens in 2010 apparently.

>>93772294
"Cameo from big name actor" isn't the draw that "starring" is.

>>93770881
Dude, it's not wrong or crazy, I'm not even saying they shouldn't have put it in the movie. But it's a damn fact that they decided to put a minority protester in the movie and all of her lines are burns. It's not evil or fucked up or propaganda, but it's there and it you shouldn't be so blind not to recognize when someone writes a protestor into their movie, and makes a gag out of her disgust for D.C. monuments.

>>93768915

I'm latin and even I thought that was a bullshit asspull.

>>93770261
You're right, that is pandering,It's pandering to Spider-man fans which is exactly what a good adaption should do

>>93772383
>Hahahaha hahaha I love it

reddit pls go.

have you guys realized yet that MCU is not fucking close to being fully accurate to the conivs and there are of course going to be deviations in characters and plotlines because its a loose adaptation in a seperate universe

>>93771484
Yeah, and black men like the easy to get, malleable white women. Can't wait for everyone to be brown at one point.

>>93771018
I don't disagree tho, it's just that people bitch
>>93772016
You mean an ancient norse character shouldn't be white? Man, now that's just stupid.

Also
>senpai
Lol, go back to the YouTube comment section

>>93772418
fuck dude, Hulk ironman 2 thor and The first avenger happen in the same weekend.

>>93772426
Zendaya's character (MJ, contrary to some astoundingly stupid dorks who can't admit it) is the butt of the jokes though, not the ~ factually not built by slaves ~ Washington Monument

She openly professes that she has no friends, she's alone and depressed with no date to the dance, she's a huge loser and they aren't even a little shy about showing it lol

>>93772523
Well I know that, but then Vision says "8 years" in Civil War.

Marvel needs to fucking make a statement, who fucking cares about sarcastic bitch.

I hate being such a continuity faggot that the "8 years later" thing fucked with me so hard I had to watch the movie two more times so it could stop distracting me.

>>93772493
>an ancient norse character
shes not real so why not

>>93772493
Senpai's from the word filter, that anon likely typed senpai(ily)

>>93772424
That's why you mislead the audience by featuring as much of the big name actor in the trailer as possible. This has been done tons of times.

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>Lug ids Benis Barker :DDDD

>>93772558
It's true. They played her both ways, which was a good choice. Again, I'm not saying it was wrong to have this character or that she was bad, but yeah they decided to write in a minority protestor as the girlfriend bait.

>>93772631
Even then what role could she possibly have? GiTS is the Major and Batou, none of the other characters are as important.

>>93772693
>none of the other characters are as important
Tachikomas are more important than Major and Batou.

>>93772634
Ignoring the fact that two red dot Indians named their kid Flash, who the fuck names their kid Flash?

And was that joke about him being the fastest a dig at DC?

Zendaya being MJ and it being received badly enough that they have to damage control it is acting nicely as a smokescreen for how bad a character Liz was

Super smart overachiever who is also mega-popular and cartoonishly nice but doesn't have a date to the dance the night before even though she planned the whole thing? Really killed the whole 'real high school' vibe they were trying for with Flash and Ned and MJ. Lazy af

>>93772582
well so far CW and SPH both have 8 years yada yada in them so something with one of the past movies. because this one is two months after.

>>93772788
He named his son after his car, were you even paying attention?

BAKA