http://archive.is/hZi6K >For Batman: White Knight, writer-illustrator

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>>93724052
>Black Lives Matter
>Bruce is now evil because he is rich and actively fights crime regardless of race, gender, or station

Hello New Storytime of Pain.

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>>93724052
So he turned the Joker into a fucking SJW?
what the fuck is wrong with people these days

>>93724127
>Clark is an alien so if he doesn't have a human to keep him in check he instantly turns evil because fucking aliens REEEEE
>WW is from a female Warrior island so obviously she's an evil femnazi who needs Bat or Super cock to calm her down
How's it feel Batfags? How's it feel to be "deconstructed"?

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>>93724052
Why not just make this a Green Arrow story if you want to go all SJW? At least then it would be in character

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I can't be worse than Nemesis.

>>93724052
is that canon ?

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>>93724052
>Batman: White Knight somehow went from a 10/10 idea to a -100/10
>Thanks to SJW shit.

Goddamnit, is this how Rebirth starts fucking itself up?

>>93724052
synder is the witer..

>>93724189
green arrow doesnt have the joker

>>93724127
Batman is not gonna be evil. He's gonna place himself as a bad guy to somehow help these new problems. I've no idea what the hell Murphy's got in mind but I like his art so I'll give this a shot.

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>>93724174
It's been done.

>>93724174
On one hand, I'm glad they have to deal with stupid shit like this instead of just mediocre pulp at worst.

On the other, I fear that the industry will try to emulate this.

>>93724210
>>93724237
It's an Elseworld

>>93724052
>the Joker—cured of his insanity
Way to immediately go from an awesome pitch to shit.

I wanted the Joker vs an authoritarian Batman, not a pointless double-flip.

>>93724052
>"The line Batman rides between 'noble vigilante' and 'overzealous oppressor'
Lol.Synder.

>>93724052
Are all the new elseworlds just going to be about Bat-Characters turning evil?

>>93724052
>Turning The Joker into an SJW mouth piece for the writer

hoo boy /pol/ is going to have a field day with this

Like so many others before it, it sounds like a halfway interesting, if not clever, idea, but will be ruined by all the hamfisted BLM-type shit.

>>93724174
This. Honestly, I'm almost surprised it took this long for people to notice that Bruce is a 1%er white dude, and not even a self made man or anything, but a fucking trust fund baby for fucks sake.

Almost surprised, since he's editorial's husbando and all.

>>93724355
It's their turn considering how many there are of evil Superman

So the champion of social justice is an evil lunatic that inevitably will reveal his true nature, to the shock of those dumb enough to believe he ever was good?

Pretty poetic, I like it.

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I swear to God, if Sean's Punk Rock Jesus would be released today you people would cry about how it was too SJW and anti-Christian without even reading a page.

>>93724052
>Punk Rock Jesus
This was an extremely terrible book and I have few hopes for this Batman OGN, but it will probably look very nice.

>>93724174
I'm an adult so I don't get my knickers in a twist just because I might possibly dislike one mini-series featuring Batman.

>>93724052
>It's sexy to think crime can be stopped with a fist, but the real solution is a lot more boring than that: education, increasing wages, and building trust
This is not a bad idea for a comic. Batman setting himself up as the ultimate authoritarian strawman is kinda brilliant. That said, this is probably going to suck. Hard.
>>93724174
>How's it feel Batfags? How's it feel to be "deconstructed"?
It's been done before, and by pure sorcery Batman's always lucked out. There is no greater example of a deconstruction comic failing upwards than TDKR. Or maybe Rorschach.

>>93724468
Burden of proof is on you, faggot.

>>93724468
>everyone annoyed by this is mad about le SJWs!
Shut the hell up. I'm pissed because this is the laziest way to approach Joker as a protagonist short of "lol he does whatever because CRAZY XD!!!1!" Fucking have balls, don't just uncrazy Joker just because he's the lead.

>>93724395
Amen ta that.

>Batman setting himself up as the bad guy
Oh, so he's just going to rebuild Brother Eye. Okay.

> DC should use the elseworlds to try new things
> they do
> not like this! REEE

>>93724503
This board is 14 and under sir, please leave.

>>93724514
Just look at the Castlevania thread, someone kept crying about how it was wrong to show the Church in negative light.

>>93724296
Reminder that scene was all in Alfred's head.

>>93724503
I think you're too old to be here.

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>>93724527
Just read Deadpool. He's just Joker except an anti-hero.

>>93724052
Oh come on. Batman can't be evil. Batman is the champion of humanity. Leave these bullshit to Superman.
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>93724422

The entire two more times Superman has been evil? And one of those is just really dark grey. Seriously where does this "Superman is alway evil" meme come from. Superman has faked being evil more than he has been evil.

>>93724552
'What if [Character] was EVIL!" isnt anywhere close to new or unique.

>>93724552
>get excited about new thing
>turns out it's closer to a tired cliche than initially believed
>people are annoyed
>"um, like, wow, hypocrite much?"

I have every right to be displeased that this isn't ambitious enough.

>>93724527
But if he wasn't cured, why would he be the good guy? Let alone be able to build a civil movement against the rich elitists like Bruce Wayne, who has not worked a day in his life.

>>93724601
I don't get the marvel hat.

>>93724569
In the loosest sense.
I was under the impression he's still just be a villain, honestly.

>>93724580
Superman fans love to cry and play victim.

>>93724052
>a city dealing with everything from Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap

He should be working for Marvel

>>93724052
This is why artists shouldn't try to be writers.

>>93724580
We'll have a story where Batman, for some good legitimate reason, snap and Superman must stop him?

>>93724579
Neck yourself.

>>93724052
It's okay when DC does it

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>>93724052
>It's literally Largo Winch, only guaranteed to be terribly cringey

Considering company policy on research and their track record on "Hello, young people!"-issues, I'd say just be merciful and kill it with fire.

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>>93724052
>It's sexy to think crime can be stopped with a fist, but the real solution is a lot more boring than that: education, increasing wages, and building trust,

Tell that to Antifa.

>>93724644
There's tons of great writer/artists.

>>93724605
>Protagonist = Good Guy
This is why we get dumb copouts like this. God forbid neither the protagonist nor antagonist is morally sound.

>>93724689
Not with Marvel/DC.

>>93724592
>comic books
>ambitious
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Nigga, if this industry had even a drop of ambition left in it, there'd be other books to read besides superhero shit.
>B-but muh indies!
Indie comics are trash, just like indie video games, they're lazily cobbled together piles of crap that some idiot made in an hour in their basement to try and grab a quick buck. The only real difference is that comic books don't have a Steam, so there's slightly less trash.

>>93724605
Because he hates Batman's guts and what better way to have fun than pit the poor against the rich.

>>93724706
Ya got me there.

>>93724721
Nice goalposts anon, but how did you haul them across field so fast?

>>93724052
>Hey, what if Bruce Wayne faced scrutiny for doing nothing in his company while playing his "billionaire playboy" role and was seen as a menace as Batman by Law enforcement and regular citizens because the crime in Gotham can't be solved by pummeling criminal faces in?
>What if Bruce Wayne in his circle of rich friends finds out that they purposely screwed over people and lead to much of the crime in Gotham but didn't care as long as they profited?
>"That could be interesting.."
>NAH, WHAT IF THERE WAS HARD HITTING ISSUES LIKE BLACK LIVES MATTERS AND THE WAGE GAP?!

>>93724721
t. capeshitter who's never touched an indie book in his life

>>93724052
>the Joker, who leads a kind of media war against Gotham's elite by winning people over with his potent observations and rhetoric

Part of me hopes he's actually a Trump stand-in but I know in my heart of hearts that it's going to be another "And then I win them over with THE POWER OF MY BRAIN POWER" daydream fantasy that completely ignores how people actually work. Bummer.

>>93724293
>why I hate scott snyder.Damians
Good thing Snyder isn't involved then.

So joker is going to accuse batman of sleeping with Catwoman and this is police gate or something? And everyone will call batman a slut and doxx his bat cave?

>>93724761
>OH MAN I AM TWENTY TWO AND I HAVE FEELINGS
>ALSO: FUCK <current republican leader>

Wow, indie books are so good man.

>>93724752
Anon, it's pretty much a fact that Batman is bribing judges and the police nonstop.

Otherwise somebody'd take issues with some idiot breaking into people's houses at night and beating them to a pulp while they're asleep.

>>93724135
Someone post that Gravity Falls official shipping page that outraged the SJWs because all the gay couples were full of "goofy" characters

>>93724796
I don't remember that part of Bone.

>>93724738
A lack of variety does not automatically make shit books good just because they're not capes, retard. A bad book is still a bad book.

>>93724796
Literally no indie book ever, but thanks for the amusing strawman.

>>93724634
>Superman fans love to cry and play victim
They're butthurt Superman isn't as popular as Batman. It's that simple.
You can't hate them for it, they've got a legitimate beef. Supes was the original superhero, Batcasuals are a pain in the ass, Superman does have like, four famous evil incarnations.
Just remember Superfags and Batfags are supposed to be bros. Don't let the hero vs hero fetish over at Marvel bleed into DC

>>93724816
>A lack of variety does not automatically make shit books good just because they're not capes, retard.
Okay.

I said nothing even remotely like that, but sure. Now can you tell me how you hauled the goalposts all the way from "nerds are being hypocrites about Elseworlds" to "Indie comics suck" in the blink of an eye?

>>93724796
Stop reading Breitbart for comic news.

>>93724774
>his potent observations and rhetoric
>Trump

Trump's aphex white trash.

How do you fuck up such a simple concept?

>Batman uses his money to buy off most crimes families and police force and controls the city from the shadows
>The ones who try to resist receive a visit from his goons or the mysterious "Batman"
>Joker falls to a pool of chemicals after trying to escape from the Batman
>With his mind distorted he decides he doesn't like the Gotham regime and begins to disrupt it
>He starts gaining support from people thinking he is a hero
>He ends up making everything worse

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>>93724796
Are eurocomics indie comics?

>>93724174
To be the victim?

To watch your dreams DIE?

The sad part is that this is going to sell no matter what because Batman.

>>93724911
Anything not Diamond-distributed is Indie.

>All this butthurt

And me without my popcorn.

https://twitter.com/Sean_G_Murphy/status/883414411301593088
https://twitter.com/Sean_G_Murphy/status/883415404621811714
https://twitter.com/Sean_G_Murphy/status/883415704741064704
https://twitter.com/Sean_G_Murphy/status/883643412737654784

Seems to me like it’s not just as simple as “Joker’s the good guy and Batman is evil”.

>>93724850
I didn't. I was mocking you for thinking comics were ambitious. The indie thing was to cut off the predictable indie-fags running up and proclaiming their precious darlings are oh so great. And I guess I'm a fucking psychic, cause look what happened!

>>93724911
what's 2000AD? Eurocapeshit? Euroindieshit?
Euroshit?

>>93724580
Injustice. Before hand usually Batman is either fucking crazy in DKR or he is evil too like with Justice Lords. Injustice sucks Bruce off as the moral center of the DCU and sold a shit ton.

>>93724874
t. CNN

>>93724957
If you don't like comics what the hell are you doing in this board?

>>93724953
What? No waaaaaaaay.

>>93724902
What if Joker, instead of being crazy and killing people, becomes a officer to get revenge on Batman after the accident then moves up the ranks to commissioner. He uses how disfigured he is to gain sympathy from Gotham to unite against Batman who now runs things like Red Hood.

>>93724508
>There is no greater example of a deconstruction comic failing upwards than TDKR
Eh Superman got deconstructed there too. Miller's the one who made "Superman is the government stooge and Batman is the noble rebel" so popular.

Lets not even start on Miller's WW holy shit.

>>93724959
>what's 2000AD? Eurocapeshit? Euroindieshit?Euroshit?
A waste of paper and ink.

>>93724237
This isn't Rebirth dude.

>>93725010
Let's start on Miller's wondy. I wanna see where this leads.

>>93725004
>What if Joker becomes a officer

So instead of randomly killing people because it's funny he now randomly kills people because he felt threathened?

>>93724994
>wanting genre variety and disliking low effort indie trash means you hate comics
Just kill yourself already, you fucking moron.

>>93724586
It is for Batman. WW and Superman have dozens of stories that do this. How often does Batman? And I mean a straight up "villain" not just CUHRAZY XD

>>93724953
B-but muh simplistic political issue oriented biased outrage!

>>93724911
>Blast
The best comics I have ever read.

>>93724982
We must have read different injustices anon. Superman was laughably evil at the end. Batman was the moral center only because everyone else was dead.

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>>93724994
>Liking comics
>on /co/

>>93724052
Is there actually a growing wage gap?
Like I'm sure wage gap is still a problem, but is it ACTUALLY getting worse?
I mean I assume before unions and back when slaves were a recent memory there was a much more serious wage gap, but we've been making improvements I'm sure.

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>>93724953
>Haven't you ever read a comic?? Batman ALWAYS wins. ;)

The only thing I don't like is the sane Joker, I want to see an authoritarian Batman versus the joker

>>93725141
Wage gap is because women are less likely to go for the big high paying jobs not because people are paying them less for the same job

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>>93724174
Never heard of ASBAR?

>>93724957
>I was mocking you for thinking comics were ambitious.
Again, never said that.

More ambitious =/= ambitious, just as better =/= Good. I said it's frustrating that it isn't more ambitious, IE, "even slightly novel to me."

>>93724836
>They're butthurt Superman isn't as popular as Batman.
No the main problem is that Batfags have turned everything into a pissing match between the two, and everywhere I go I see those retards bringing up Injustice. I was talking with a casual friend of mine about Death in the Family, and he was going on about how hypocritical of Supes it was to stop Batman from going after Joker since he killed the Joker in Injustice. I had to explain to the retard that Injustice wasn't canon.

I also hate Batfags who believe comic"""""fact""""" social media accounts and actually use them in discussions like Batman having a magic word that disables magic users from casting spells. Or how Batman is a dark loner who works alone.

>>93724930
>Batman's popularity causes comics that shit on him to become widely read
Anon please don't get my hopes up.

>>93724052
>Sean Murphy (The Wake, Punk Rock Jesus)
Nobody remembers Off Road.

>>93725182
Then say that next time, dumbass. Words mean things.

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>>93725185
>I also hate Batfags who believe comic"""""fact""""" social media accounts and actually use them in discussions like Batman having a magic word that disables magic users from casting spells. Or how Batman is a dark loner who works alone.
To be fair this is a casual fan thing in general.

>>93725010
>"Superman is the government stooge and Batman is the noble rebel"
Thats the generalization and there's a little more depth to it than that. Everyone always forgets Batman killing the Mutant hostage taker or Superman taking shit at bruce wayne's funeral and then winking at the end, being a total bro. All people remember is Batman kicking Superman in the face.
>>93725054
>Let's start on Miller's wondy. I wanna see where this leads.
Nowhere good anon. WW fans deserve better than a prostitute fetishist can provide.

>>93725238
>Misread someone's post and go on a wild tangent over assumptions.
>Somehow this is their fault.

Why not ask instead of shitposting next time?

>>93725111
We must have since I distinctly remember Dick Grayson saying that Batman is the paragon of all that is noble and good and is incorruptible.

And Emperor Supes went laughably evil when he beat GA to death.

>>93725181
I don't think anyone has since I've had people, being completely serious, tell me that Batman has never been evil anywhere ever.

>>93725266
Don't you ruin this opportunity, anon.

>>93724052
So this guy literally made a comic about that shitpost that batman is a millionare who in his spare time likes to beat up the mentally ill?

>>93725061
You want genre variety yet you strawman indie comics despite clearly never having read a single one of them, and I'M the moron? Sure thing, buddy.

>>93725266
>Nowhere good anon. WW fans deserve better than a prostitute fetishist can provide.
Eh, I can't even summon the energy to be mad about it anymore. Based Patty showed the world what Diana's a nice and friendly person. Casuals no longer have an excuse for not knowing this.

>>93725278
>use a word incorrectly
>surprised when shat on
Like I said before, kill yourself.

>>93725175
>Wage gap is because women are less likely to go for the big high paying jobs not because people are paying them less for the same job
oh boy.
>>93725141
>Is there actually a growing wage gap?
Like I'm sure wage gap is still a problem, but is it ACTUALLY getting worse?
I mean I assume before unions and back when slaves were a recent memory there was a much more serious wage gap, but we've been making improvements I'm sure.
Not to derail the thread, I'll give it to you in a nutshell.
Globalization means first world labor is competing with third world labor. It means greater profits for Big companies and an increase in living for third world working class but middle America/Europe is taking it right in the ass.

>>93725252
Check them out the majority of posts are about Batman. Supes and Flash are next but WW or GL barely ever show up. Not that I mind since those accounts are pure bullshit but it pisses me off how people treat them like fact.

>>93725125
We aren't /v/. At least, we didn't use to be, before the rampant company wars threads.

>>93725175
Murphy isn't talking about that wage gap, you idiot.

>>93725054
If you want to know where Injustice and Flashpoint WW get their roots look no further than Miller. He started the whole bullshit about how WW is a femnazi who, without a strong man to take her with his dick, will fucking kill everyone.

Can we all agree that Murphy's one hell of an artist?

I'm sure this book's gonna be, beyond all, great to look at.

>>93725175
Wage gap is because women care less about cash and more about benefits.

>>93725012
That's twenty years in the cube, creep

>>93724052
>"My main goal was to undo the comic tropes while changing Gotham from a comic book city into a real city—a city dealing with everything from Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap," Murphy says. "[But] rather than write a comic about the wage gap, I gave those ideas to the Joker, who leads a kind of media war against Gotham's elite by winning people over with his potent observations and rhetoric."

Its amazing how quickly this went to shit.

>>93725427
give me the comic

>>93725378
>Based Patty showed the world what Diana's a nice and friendly person. Casuals no longer have an excuse for not knowing this.
I'm both shocked and happy that I've seen people calling Boon out for how he's treated her in his shitty game. I really hope they kill off Evil Diana and Clark in I3 so we can put an end to that faggotry. Either that or bring in the good versions.

>>93725495
All-Star Batman and Robin. Dark Knight Strikes Again.

They are both hilariously awful.

>>93725427
>without a strong man to take her with his dick, (she) will fucking kill everyone
This is Miller's view on all women.

>>93725378
Saying "more ambitious" to say you want more ambition is not incorrect. Nor does it mean you think comic are ambitious. How did I use "ambition" incorrectly?
>Like I said before, kill yourself.
You haven't said that once in this entire reply chain.

>>93725546
Man's got a point.

>>93725428
That's why I'm looking forward to it. I feel like Punk Rock Jesus was a mixed bag, but I'm interested in seeing how he's grown as a writer.

>>93725504
Seriously, it's so nice. If I never have to see that bloodthirsty Lady Macbeth shit ever again, it'll be too soon.

Injustice 3 should just take place exclusively in the good universe, so we can just have heroes fighting villains.

>>93725181
>Miller makes a comic featuring an insane Batman
>Batfags unironically praise it
What went wrong?

>>93724052
>>"My main goal was to undo the comic tropes while changing Gotham from a comic book city into a real city—a city dealing with everything from Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap," Murphy says. "[But] rather than write a comic about the wage gap, I gave those ideas to the Joker, who leads a kind of media war against Gotham's elite by winning people over with his potent observations and rhetoric."

So it's left-wing twitter wish fulfillment?

>>93725681
>Injustice 3 should just take place exclusively in the good universe, so we can just have heroes fighting villains.
It will never happen but it should. The worst part is when they reset everything at the end to Batman and Superman cockfighting. The best was when Superman came in and saved Bats from getting dissected and they beat the shit out of Brainiac. WW didn't even get a moment like that, she fucking egged Clark on to kill Bruce. Fuck off Boon.

Cranky, you've been very naughty. I thought you said you were going to change your ways?

>>93724874
Trump comes from a wealthy northeastern family, kind of the opposite of white trash.

>>93725780
>implying you have to be southern to be white trash
New Jersey disagrees with you

>>93724127
I was wondering could you and all your /pol/ friends do the world a favor? Drink bleach? I mean the whole bottle. I assure you the world will be better off without you. I promise.

>>93725780
All the cash can't safe him from himself. His behaviour, his whole personality is white thrash to a tee. It's like Bubba himself coached him.

>Triggering White folk: The comic

I like this guy already

>>93725868
Damatta

>>93725780
You'd never know it from his behaviour
>>93725829
As does many parts of long island and Boston

>>93725780
He's nouveau rich, i.e. trash.

>>93724052
No matter how hard he tries, in the end the SJW will take the message that comic is an attempt to paint them as insane psychopaths and batman the rich white man is the right thing.

>>93724052
>pointless diversity
Joker, Harley and Batman are all white tho

>>93725711
Eh, it wouldn't be all that terrible to see a Gotham that's actually not just Batman's clown reservation/war zone.

The issue is that these capshit companies pick their writers on grounds of them being absolutely clueless about the simplest shit and then force them to write at their worst, so it's going to be pretty hilarious when they talk about how THE PENGUIN has been defunding SCHOOLS and SERVICES so that the ethnic parts of the city expand, offering him a larger recruitment base for his criminal activities or how white flight created all those abandoned sewer tunnels that crocodile man has been using as his lair...

>>93725753
The hell of it is, this WW doesn't even have a reason to be so evil. Against my better judgment, I kinda want to see an evil Diana done right.

Like, I imagine she'd be a little more subtle and insidious about it, her compassion twisted into a condescending "Oh, the poor dears don't know what they're doing." attitude.

>>93725992
Joker's always the whitest person in any room. It's why he's consistently getting away with mass murder.

>>93724390
How long until they set their sights on Murphy?

>>93725992
>Joker
>White

As a fellow tranclown I rudely honk in your direction. Pratfalls and seltzer water are not for your amusement you Clownist.

>>93724468
It was also a piece of steaming shit that was loosely held together.

>>93726000
Oh, so you've read the thing already, have you?

>>93726002
>Against my better judgment, I kinda want to see an evil Diana done right.
It wouldn't even be that hard. Just have her stick to classic greek/roman battle code. You want me to end war in man's world? Pax Diana for the good of all.
Done.

>BLM
>wage gap
>Batman is Trump
>Joker is Bernie Sanders

This is like something Marvel would be making.

>>93724290
I love the guy's art but a skim through his Twitter a while back painted a picture of your typical right-on aging lefty who still listens to punk rock and complains about problems their life is blessedly divorced from that they have no actual understanding of, nor meaningful insight into.

Like Tokyo Ghost it'll be something you read for the art and not much else.

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>>93724052
Batman being a 1% who doesn't fix the underlying system doesn't work if his opponent is also a larger-than-life figure. Making the Joker the mouthpiece is completely backward.

>>93724174
I'm a Batfag and this could be interesting if it's well written. I'm not 10 years old anymore, I don't get pissed about fictional characters.

>>93726185
>Oh, so you've read the thing already, have you?

I've read enough of their products to know their editorial lines and the general level of research allowed under those.

It's zero, approaching the negative. That's an issue that comes up consistently no matter the character or the writer and it's only somewhat softened for the British, which they apparently can't physically harm, so they get away with a lot more than the people working for them inside the US.

>>93725175
He's not talking about women, you triggered cunt.

>>93726384
>Picking on Hal
>Not picking on Ollie the rich asshole
Mean

>>93726384
I think the story's going to be a bit more complex than what the interview infers, broheim.

>>93724052
Has /co/ ever gotten this triggered by a fucking elseword that isn't even out yet?

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>>93725992
>>93726023
>>93726133
He was the whitest son-of-a-bitch I haver ever seen.

>>93726474
No, but then again Elseworlds have been under the back burner for a long time

>>93724052
Well Punk Jesus and Wake are shit, why doesn't this guy just get a normal writer?

>>93726564
Wake was written by Snyder.

>>93726564
He can take his pick from among the turds in the company's bowl, that's the high and low of it.

could /co/ write a good super hero story

>>93726564
He has in the past, it's always someone shit like Remender.

>>93726634
Not for the Big Two, they got editors and company policies to prevent that from happening.

>>93726469
The execution can be complex, but the Joker is the worst person for this, unless you're actually trying to write a story where he's cynically trying to use liberal talking points uniquely for the sake of fucking with the Bats.

Joker is the least political character ever, he never takes anything seriously. For how terrible The Dark Knight Rises was, at least the one to call Bruce privileged was Selina, someone who could conceivably have genuine political opinions that aren't part of some greater ploy.

>>93726634
Oh fuck no.

>>93726634
Why the fuck would I want to waste my time with that?

>>93726634
/co/ can't write anything ever, just have a bunch of idea guys commission fetishy fanart.

>>93726707
Miss the part where
>A. It's an Elseworld
>B. He's cured
did you now? I guess reading comprehension is a bit much to ask from /co/.

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>>93726634
Psycho Pirate
- I always had a story for him in mind. He has the power to make you love him. So he goes to UN general assembly and makes the leaders of the world love him. They organise his takeover of the world, by distributing mindcontrol-videos in the internet and informing of eventual problem. His world rule only gets abolished when Amander Waller organises a special Suicide Squad consisting only of sociopaths. They can't feel love, so Psycho Pirate can't control them.

>>93726761
Then he's not the Joker. It's like writing a story where Luthor is a mentally challenged janitor. There's only so much you can stretch the character before he's unrecognizable.

>>93726836
do you mean BvS luthor

>>93726770
make him rape power girl

>>93726836
This is what elseworlds are for. For turning Batman into a vampire and Superman jizzing into a jar to repopulate humanity. It's so you can stretch these characters like taffy and explore new angles while maybe having some fun.

>>93724052
If Trump was white trash he'd be living in a trailer park.

>>93724567
>Reminder that scene was all in Alfred's head.
No it wasn't, Fox said Bruce fixed the autopilot himself. He lied about it for dramatic effect.

>>93726836
Batman was once just an asshole with a cricket bat stuck to his torso. So fuck you and your complete lack of understanding of what Elseworld stories entail.

>>93724052
This sounds so stupid. Murphy shouldnt be allowed to write, only do art.

>>93725845
I'd rather watch you drink a bleach latte.

>>93726337
Harley being trans is the only thing missing.

>>93724052
So this Batman isn't evil, he just thinks punching people is a solution to stopping crime?

>>93727117
That seems to be the premise, yes. Which could be an interesting idea to explore, a Batman who legitimately thinks he's helping stop crime, when all he's doing is perpetuating the cycle, but I don't feel like this'll handle things that delicately.

>>93726342
How often does he virtue signal?

>>93724902

That sounds pretty cool.

>>93725004

This also sounds pretty cool.

It makes sense that SJWs would idolize a mentally unstable terroristic lunatic like the joker.

I have hope because it's Snyder but we'll see I guess.

>>93726342
Tokyo Ghost was Remender you dumbass and it was decent. The message in that is not one being discussed enough. Idk if you are American but the internet has utterly crippled some people socially. For God's sake there is a service called Twitch where you pay to watch someone play a videogame.

Think about that for a second.

>>93724673
Are you saying Antifa are superheroes?

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>>93724654
>Batman prepares contingency plans to stop members of the JL if they go evil
>Batman says the JL are supposed to stop him if he goes evil himself

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>>93725252
These casual superhero "facts" are hilarious

>>93727520
Even Batman knows his Anti-Superman and Wonder Woman plans are shit.

>>93724052
Fuck Yeah, I've missed Sean Murphy's art.

>>93724174
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO WATCH DREAMS DIE

>>93724605
Because it would be funny to be a good guy and see the heroes squirm about it, waiting for him to fuck up, and then when they finally exhale, he can do something really nasty

>>93724189
It's an Elseworlds, no one needs to be in character.

>>93724052
>It's all Bruce Wayne's fault Gotham is a criminal cesspit
MAGICAL

>>93724982
You know he betrayed the Justice Lords in the JLU cartoon right?

>>93725693
nothing, ASBAR is one of the finest works of satire of our age

>>93724127
the dude is right though, 1 billionaire going around punching people wont solve much, of course bending over for BLM, SJWs, the "wage gap" will help even less. Its a short sighted comic, written by a short sighted person but it can be good(he could grow while writing the damn thing and realizing theres no simple anwser and simple saying "we should better our education, increase wages and build trust" is just retarded if you dont say how you will do it), the art seems like it will be nice.

For fuck sake, there is no wage gap. Why is this lie still believed, it's absurd and retarded.

>>93725141
>>93725175
I think Murphy is referring to stagnating wages for working class people generally, not the gender pay gap.

>>93725342
The only thing untrue about that statement is that it's debatable whether Bruce likes it or not.

>>93725693
Batfags hate it though

Hell even comic fans who aren't batfags hate it

>>93727646
This is true.

>>93724052
>a city dealing with everything from Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap
Stopped right there. I'm not a /pol/ster or anything, but I'm so tired of these weirdly hamfisted comic book politics. I feel like Lantern/Arrow is the only superhero comic that did it properly

>>93729862
>Batfags hate it though

You mean plebs hate it. It's the goddamn Batman,

>>93729558

Because people don't want to listen. If a company could hire women for menial level jobs at a lower cost then most men wouldn't even have a job.

>>93729932

The problem with BLM is that it went full retard. There are legitimate problems but did you ever read their list of demands? It's absurd

>>93726449
>A rich liberal shifts the blame onto a cop.
Nothing new here.

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>>93724052
Please god no. No one asked for this. No one wants this. You don't read capeshit for realism. When will they learn?

Seriously, when the fuck will they learn?

It's like this guy watched The Lego Batman Movie and the Hillary Clinton-esque Barbara Gordon really spoke to him so he decided to make an entire comic about that instead of using it as a springboard for a wacky adventure featuring Sauron, Voldemort, Daleks, Gremlins, King Kong, and Godzilla like the actual movie did because Batman is a concept for children and "What if Batman were real and had to deal with real issues" is, to paraphrase Alan Moore, for emotionally stunted adults.

>>93727520
I love that casuals can't accept the contradiction there. Either Batman is incompetent and can't beat the JL like casuals think or Batman CAN beat them, so when the fuck are we getting an evil Batman story? It would sell a shitload.

>>93730244
>so when the fuck are we getting an evil Batman story?
Do you pay attention to comic news

>>93729559
Yeah, who knew that having a skill set that was easily replaced meant you made shit money. Also, who knew that as technology improved you paid a person less because they did less work since a machine was doing more of it. And these burger flippers crying for $15? They're about yo be replaced with a kiosk and a lb automated assembly line. Liberals are considered economic illiterates for a reason

>>93729441
Yep. But seriously who expected anything less from the Kings of the Batfag Club aka Timm and Dini? And he actually blew the fuck out of Batman's bullshit with that bit about making a better world.

>>93729483
Too bad it's completely lost on its audience.

>>93726449
Ollie was poor at this point actually

>>93729961
>You mean plebs hate it
So Batfags? Keep in mind most get their info from shitty social media accounts not actual comics.

>>93724052

Why does every great artist eventually embarrass himself by thinking he can write?

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>>93724052
Meh, whatever. I made it through Lobo being Space-Pope, maybe a SJW Joker will be a surprisingly fun read?

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>>93730275
I meant about him taking down the JL Captain Hydra style.

Plus there's pic related. DC will never let Batman be shit on like Superman and Wonder Woman. Johns haters bitch at him but he hasn't let anyone destroy Batman.

>>93725147
Blessing in disguise.

>>93724238
No he isn't you dog fucking savage

>>93727770
Dude doesn't even have a real plan for Diana. The writers always have to make up some bullshit out of whole cloth whenever it comes up. They're probably too busy fapping furiously to Batman to do some proper research.

>>93730679
Fucking hell, even the writer freely admits that Batman has editorial favoritism.

>>93725181
Why is HE talking LIKE that?

>>93724959
>Britain
>European

>>93724052
Gotham never was a city with a relevant nig population, the minorities were eastern Europeans and Asians. Most of the whites are catholics from Ireland, Scotland, Italy, etc. It was a real city in many ways, not just another new york.

>>93731305
What about Burnley? The Harlem of Gotham.

>>93724052
I assume those two are Joker and Harley? Are they an item in this?

>>93724052
>changing Gotham from a comic book city into a real city
>Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap

Pick one.

>tfw Harlivy is dead in yet another comic
Truly no one cares anymore but sjw Bennett.

>>93724052
I'm not worried about the "plot" like so many of you. It will probably amount to very little.

>>93726973
>He lied about it for dramatic effect.
No, he lied because he wanted to stop being Batman for good so no one would look after him.

>>93724052
DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET, BATMAN HATERS? DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU WHINE INCESSANTLY? YOU GET PANDERED TO!

Fuck my life

>>93731125
You'd talk like THAT too if YOU were the goddamned BATMAN.

>>93731004
>Dude doesn't even have a real plan for Diana.
Too be fair she doesn't have any obvious bullshit weaknesses

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>>93724052
>from a comic book [...] into a real