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How is it that one of the dumbest looking characters in the history

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How is it that one of the dumbest looking characters in the history of comic books is also one of the most dangerous characters?
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when i was a kid and only knew him from the PS1 Spider-Man game I thought he was a shapeshifting energy being who could mimic others' powers and basically an unstoppable badass,
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>>93718352
Until you punch him with one hit and his fishbowl falls off.

That had me pissing myself with laughter.
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How is that dumb looking. Looks neat
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>>93718352
That's exactly what Mysterio wants you to think, so that could arguably be one of the best interpretations of him.
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He's an illusionist, he knows how to fuck with people's minds.
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>>93718346
You take that back he's my favotite supervillian design ever
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>>93718405
YOU look neat.
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>>93718346
He looks great you turbopleb!
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>>93718346
Mysterio's costume is GOAT
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>>93718405
>>93718481
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>>93718346
>practical effects villain
>movies no longer use practical effects

I feel like you could reboot Mysterio a tiny bit to reflect this fact instead of him just getting fired for being a weirdo.
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>>93718481
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>>93718503
They wouldn't want to draw attention to the fact that their movies have become CGI shitshows
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>>93718346
Mysterio > Scarecrow
Prove me wrong
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>>93718346
Comes with the territory.
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>>93718512
The fact that mysterio has been shafted in not 1, but 2 spider universes makes me so sad. If this new spider-man series actually takes off he had better be in the next fucking movie.
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>>93718511
I guess, you could sort of do the same thing with Clayface, the one that was an actor, since makeup made him into Clayface and even makeup is CGI now.
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>>93718503
He used holograms in the 90's show
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>>93718481
thanks anon
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>>93718528
We may never see this casting choice in a live-action film, but there needs to be some cartoon or vidya where Mysterio is played by Bruce Campbell.
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>>93718532
which is a practical effect, he recorded something and displayed it holographically.

He didn't create a 3D model and then mocap that model and then display that as a hologram.
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>>93718562
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>>93718537
He wasn't talking to you bud
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>>93718512
He does the whole "master of illusions" thing without being tied to a stupid fear gimmick or a wildly inconsistent characterization (even by cape standards), and his costume is way fucking better.
I'd say yes
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>>93718578
>Back off, I saw him first!

I'm sure there's plenty of him for the both of you.
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>>93718586
No, just feels a little cringy to see someone acting like another poster. Like genuinely sad
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>>93718607
Yeah, it makes me want to vomit.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K1MZIU_feIk
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>>93718649
I like that they actually got Tobey Maguire, but why couldn't they have gotten JK Simmons as well? Dude they got for Jameson sounds nothing like him. Not quite my tempo.
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> dumbest looking

S-Sure, dumb...
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>>93718346
What if Mysterio were a Doctor Strange villain?
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>>93718859
>guy who pretends to be magic against the guy who actually is magic

Pretty dumb
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>>93718515
Mxy is Nyralahotep but less evil.
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>>93718925
>Nyralahotep
Nailed it.
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>>93718346
That describes a lot of Spider-Man's enemies.

>Green Goblin
>Dr. Octopus
>Shocker
>Vulture
>Kraven
>Electro
>Rhino
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>>93719706
How is Vulture dangerous?
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>>93718346
Mysterio hard counters anyone with resistances to telepathy or hallucinogens like fear gas. He can get you to do practically anything without physically touching your mind at all. With this, I suppose Daredevil hard counters Mysterio in turn unless he can trick all 5 senses at once
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>>93720353
>5 senses
Fun part is, he only needs to trick 4!
Imagine: Mysterio´s trickiest illusion doesn´t even need sight. it could look like a cheap greenscreen effect, and would do the trick as long as it sounded, smelt, and felt real.
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>>93719740
he killed the fucker who was hitting on Aunt May once
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>>93719706
Shocker and Vulture are fucking scrubs. Kraven is dangerous to someone without Spidey's strength and speed honestly. He seems more fitting as a Batman or Daredevil villain. Replace his constant fear and paranoia of THE SPIDER with the Bat or Devil and he still works out fine.
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It kinda blows my mind that the fact that Mysterio more or less took out the ntire Xmen, at once isnt talked about more.
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>>93718346
To this day I am mad that Bendis couldn't use him in his X-Men run.

>dark beast
>the one from age of apocalypse
>that's the one

lamest
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>>93720629
Ultimate Kraven is my favorite Kraven.
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Still waiting for him to show up in a movie.

With Vulture now, we've got 4 of the Sinister Six on screen. Just missing Mysterio and Kraven.
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>tfw Mysteriofag
>tfw the best person to write him in the last year or two is Joe Kelly.
Fuck you, Slott.
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>>93718559
Why not, after all Vulture was recycled from Raimi's Spider-Man 4 project, even with daughter love interest and everything
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>who is the spot
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>>93718404
That's sm2 game not 1
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>>93720702
>Shocker
>Scorpion
>Vulture
>?
And the 4th is who again? Not only that, but they need a leader, so Doctor Octopus could fill that role
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>>93718880
All you'd have to change is the source of his illusions being technological to being magical.
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>>93721925
Then he becomes yet another sorcerer with a silly costume.
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>>93721935
So you're saying sorcerers can't specialize in one type of magic then?
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>>93721925
You have terrible fucking taste and completely miss the point of Mysterio
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>>93721954
You have tons of sorcerers running around Marvel. Making Mysterio one takes away his gimmick and makes him just a low-rent version of early "God of Mischief" Loki who spends his time fighting Spider-Man. Unless you drastically change the character and make him a Strange villain, I don't see the point.
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>>93721925
That goes completely against the point of Mysterio
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>>93721972
>>93721999
>>93721994

Isn't the point kind of lost in a universe that has magic?
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>>93718925
Mxy is, if Nyralahotep would be mischievous than malignant.
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>>93722005
Honestly... yeah. It's why I hate it when they try to push science-based characters as hard atheists. It really makes zero sense. But take away the gimmick of Mysterio and he loses his charm. I wouldn't mind if he came across a book or scroll and used it to make his creations more life-like, but he should be illusion-based.
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>>93722005
No, it's enchanced.
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>>93722005
No the point is lost on you because you're a fucking idiot. Mysterio is interesting because he uses his noggin and special effects creating illusion after illusion that you cant help but question if its real no matter how often you see him and aware of his gimmicks. Its more interesting than making him a dime a dozen sorcerer and just cheapens what he does.
>Creates a giant monster through magic
Boring
>Creates a giant monster through illusion
How the fuck did he do that?
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>>93722035
>In a world where hidden sorcerers train themselves to fight evil magicians, ethereal magic beings and lovecraftian chaos gods, one powerless, ordinary man will make it his life goal to use advanced special effects technology to make you believe he has magical powers.

No it's fucking stupid. It works only when magic is ambiguous.
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>>93722105
But that actually sounds interesting
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>>93722005
no, because its like someone bringing a butterknife to a gun fight tournament and somehow making it to the championship match
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>>93722126
It sounds embarrassing. Imagine if Strange actually fought Mysterio? Real magician verses parlor trick man who wishes he was one? I'm sure Mysterio would come off as so cool.
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>>93718346
Mysterio would be one of the best Spider-Man villains to have in a film, yet after six movies we've still yet to see him.

Will Mysterio ever get his due?
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>>93722168
>Muh powerlevels
Fuck off
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>>93722168
Unless you think about Dr. Strange setting up all this incredibly powerful countermagic on a foe he thinks is going to be some equally powerful magician, only to get his ass handed to him by the element of surprise.
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>>93722071

He also doesn't get that Mysterio doesn't just go ooga booga with illusions, but sets up a long elaborate con that the illusion is only a part of, using people locations whatever nessacary to create the stage. Sure spider sense and radar sense can tell the difference between a illusion, but the bait being real and desperate people in trouble can hook Pete and Matt hard enough not to suspect the trap.
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>>93722284
Seriously, Mysterio has fallen out of favor so bad people don't realize he's similar to what the Riddler would be like if he were competent.
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>>93718346
easily one of the most underrated spidy villians.
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>>93721904
Tinkerer
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>>93722222
IMPRESSIVE.
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>>93722344
I hardly think he should count and there are better choices out there to fill out the roster
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>>93721904
Venom/Carnage
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>>93718346
>one of the dumbest looking characters in the history of comic books
You need to get fucked OP.
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>>93722279
>>93722168
>illusionist plunking real wizards by using trickery and deceit
>they keep scanning for magic and find nothing so they assume he's a super wizard whose magic cannot be countered

This is a cool idea
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>>93722401
There aren't though
He was in homecoming
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>>93722299

How did that happen? I barely read spiderman anymore since it's terrible
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>>93722592
Exactly!
>I can't tell what kind of magic he's using!
>Mysterio disappears in a cloud of non-magical smoke
>Who is this wizard?!
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>>93722634
I don't know, he just very rarely shows up in comics or movies anymore. It's probably because his backstory conflicts with the fact that most movies use CGI now, but it would be easy to work around that or even make it the *reason* he turned to crime.
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>>93722634
I looked it up, and apparently Mysterio also fell prey to Marvel's muhgenda, so we got the black dude who bought Mysterio's costume "Mysterion."
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https://youtu.be/20cPIkXXhK4

I can't think of many c list villains with unofficial theme songs as good as this
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>>93722634
OG Mysterio has canonically been dead for a while, I think, and all the replacement Mysterio's have kinda sucked.
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>>93722721
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>>93720641
to be fair, Wolverine did most of the work.
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>>93718346
>>93718346
Why does a villain that depends on illusions and tricks need to be that ripped?
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>>93722559
Thats Sony's retarded private project, it isnt happening
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>>93722615
>Tinkerer
>Better than Rhino, Kraven, Mysterio, or Doc Ock
Yeah, Id say there are better choices anon
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>>93723094
>Thinking he's ripped
The illusion is working
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>>93723124
Naw. They need a tech guy to help repair their gear, Tinker works extremely well as a non combatant
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>>93722723

Wait, I thought his sucide had been retconned?
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>>93718346
Obligatory pic related
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>>93723191
.....and Doctor Octopus cant do that because?
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>>93723151
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>>93723201
Was it? I quit reading marvel a while back so it's possible.
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>>93723094
PRESENTATION!
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>>93723209
He's already been used in a film, I'm hoping that they don't use him again, then again Tinker has also been in one, but you're right, he'd be the perfect tech guy.
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>>93723320
That was 13 years ago anon, I think we can get away with doing Otto again. Not saying he'd surpass Alfred Molina, but it would be nice to give MCU Spider Man a overarching big bad that assembles the Sinister 6. Lord knows Norman isnt coming back
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>>93722592
>>93722636
I never knew I needed to see something this good until now.
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>>93723202
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he looks cool though
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>>93723509
More.
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>>93723509
Is that Robot Chicken?
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>>93718346
>one of the dumbest looking characters in the history of comic books
fuck
you
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>>93724112
Seriously, does that anon even read comics? Mysterio isn't even in the top 10.
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I like this version of mysterio, where he's more of a behind the scenes guy directing effects
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>>93724307
And I like how cheesy his puns were
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>>93718346
But that's the exact opposite of true. He's one of the best looking characters, but he's not all THAT dangerous.
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>>93721791
a fucking amazing villain.
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>>93723232
>>93723201
Truth be told, they haven't explained whether it was a true death or another illusion, so it's up in the air atm until someone fucks it up with an explanation.
>>93722677
Falling to 'muhagenda' seems pretty shitty of an assumption to make since Mysterio impersonaters have already been a thing for a while with Berkhart and Klum to name the two big ones.
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>>93718346
Oh my fucking God, I just realized something.

It's not a fishbowl, it's a fucking crystal ball, like fortune tellers use.

It took me way too long to realize that.
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>>93718471
>my favotite supervillian design ever
This guy!
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>>93723509
that is genuinely hilarious
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>>93718346
The dumber you look, the stronger you better be. That's called obfuscating stupidity.
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>>93722721
Why does Mysterio always have a god-tier theme in every game he's in?
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>>93718346
His depiction and hamminess in the PS1 Spider-Man game made me a lifelong fan of his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJZny1N0yJM
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>>93726451
The dumbest thing in the design is the scaly body suit. The mirror dome is the coolest part.
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>>93726494
Now why does this voice sound famili-
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>>93719740
He moves fast has sharp knives like feathers and enough strength to lift a guy high in the air
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>>93723509

Kuuuuubo!
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>>93719740
>Vulture
>not dangerous

what
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>>93718346
He isn't. Like most gimmick villains, he's only dangerous in a "Suddenly ultra-competent villains use their powers to new extents" settings like "All the heroes die" ones.
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>>93718346
I have a feeling this Batman TAS ep was originally written for a Spider-Man show and featuring that guy.
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>>93722005
What point are you talking about exactly? He's an ex stunt actor that knows a lot about practical effects and mind games. He's perfect for street level
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>>93718769
They got Simmons for the third movie game.
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>>93720353
Someone post the phone pic.
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>>93718503
He also used drugs like Scarecrow.
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>>93726789
That might explain why it was so shit and unfitting in BTAS
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>>93720400
>Fun part is, he only needs to trick 4!
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>>93722005
It sort of only works once and if you don't know who Mysterio is.
That or take the Ultimate route looked like it was taking and have him play it up like he was magic, in actuality be a guy with tricks, but was actually aiming for an object that'd make his illusions actual magic.
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>>93723094
Cause he has to get most the prop work done himself, and he also needs to use the moments of advantage his tricks give him. Fat dude ain't gonna be able to vanish quickly when needed.
Mysterio probably does a bunch of parkour or something.
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What is the best Mysterio story, and why is it Guardian Devil?
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>>93723509
I miss ToyFare.
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>>93718346
I think he looks pretty cool.
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>>93727427
he does?

I guess he could use hallucinogenic gas
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>>93727804
Does Daredevil even have a smartphone?
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>>93726105
>Falling to 'muhagenda' seems pretty shitty of an assumption to make since Mysterio impersonaters have already been a thing for a while with Berkhart and Klum to name the two big ones.
So why does black!Mysterio feel the need to take his helmet off all the time?
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>>93722592
>>93722636
>>93723413
>Comedic one shot or miniseries about Mysterio somehow competing to be Sorcerer Supreme using nothing but smoke, mirrors, and the power of bluffing
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>>93729030
With text to speech and speech to text, I feel like it wouldn't be too hard to navigate. Just needs the guy selling it to him to set it up.
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>>93721994
Mysterio as a Doctor Strange villain would be kinda cool.
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>>93718578
I'm not your bud, pal
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>>93729379
Can someone send this to the guys at Marvel and tell them to do this as a spin-off movie or comic?
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>>93722721
The whole soundtrack of these games was like this. I loved it when I was a kid.
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This "Mysterio looks dumb" thing annoys me. A globe for a head that hides all human features is actually cool. Specially if artists did like smoke and plasma inside form images on the globe.
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>>93729860
I'm not your pal, friend
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>>93729173
When else has that loser appeared? I only remember his initial appearance as one of the people Hobgoblin sold a villains identity too, and his time brainwashed in SpOcks Superior Six
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>>93722721
>the techno represents the technological side of his powers
>the fast tempo melody with the instrumental choice that echoes in and out of each note represents the mystery theme
>the grungy rock interludes represent that he's a villain

that IS pretty perfect
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>>93718346
What are you talking about? He looks great with the big glass or head.
Also, illusion magic is OP
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>play Chaos Reborn
>actual viable illusion based combat where you play mindgames with an opponent

too fucking good
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>>93730480
meant to reply to >>93730451
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>>93720641
Electro also took on all the Avengers at once.
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>>93726684
He's so fucking old. Bout as dangerous as punching your grandma.
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God I fucking love Mysterio so much.
If Penguin is my favorite DC villain then he's easily my favorite Marvel villain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKxy4iekOxs
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>>93726859
Bleh, too bad the third movie sucks.
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>>93718346
I really like Mysterio look, not sure besides fishbowl jokes why it looks dumb.
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>>93718481
awww thanks but im taken sorry
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>>93729996
I'm not your friend, champ.
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>>93730883
based, thanks anon
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>>93718404

Best moment in gaming.

Especially after watching him power up with 3 full health bars and basically shitting yourself thinking it's going to be a super tough boss fight
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Okay, it's not like I can prove I'm OP so I understand if you don't believe me but I have to admit that I actually like Mysterio's design myself. I just thought most people didn't because of all the "fishbowl" comments so that's why I said what I did. I like characters with obscured faces in general and I think the "crystal ball" look really suits him.

Anyway, that's all. Carry on.
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>>93731176
>thread dies after you say that
Well good job cursing it.
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>>93722139
Unless it's Bullseye, m8
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>>93733652
THEORY: Bullseye is Dr. Manhattan.
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>>93718346
>Arguably one of the best villain costumes in capeshit
>dumbest looking character
How can any one man have taste this shit? Are you the living incarnation of a street in India?
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>>93718880
>having taste this bad
Magic vs Tricks would make for a great story, if Strange wasn't so strong.
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>>93733874
Go back to fucking /pol/. "Shitting streets" DO NOT EXIST.
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>>93734048
>Getting this angry over a meme
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>>93734185
It's not funny, or true. You wouldn't be laughing if someone made a meme about "American shitting streets" or whatever shithole country you're from.
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>>93734340
I would.
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>>93734048
Of course they don't. Why build a street just for shitting when any old street will do?
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>>93718512
Eh, the Injustice 2 Scarecrow is pretty cool. I liked his live-action costume too.
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>>93734340
People already make a ton of fun of Canada for various reasons and I laugh along with all of them

It sounds like you're angry because you're backed up, they close the street down Pajeet?
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>>93718503
>Vulture turns to crime because he's a blue-collar working joe looking to provide for his family
>Mysterio is a master effects artist who gets ousted in favor of gaudy CGI, like the people who working on the Thing remake/prequel
>Spider-Man chooses to stay street-level and be a "working class hero" rather than a globe-trotting Avenger

This would work out great.
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Mysterio works excellently and should not have his look altered or be magic-based.
He works great.

As long as you understand he's supposed to be a street level guy fighting low-level street heroes and work alongside other street villains.
Yeah, if you throw him against strange , it's stupid.
So don't. He robs banks and wants to prove his practical effects are better than cgi. That's all. No big-level threats.
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>>93723094
Because he was into doing stunt-work for his productions when he was legit and needs to be quick on his feet when doing his ushal schtick.
>>93729173
Okay, I don't know exactly about that one, so you got me there which leaves me to chalking that up as some chump who doesn't get Mysterio enough to inpersonate him.
>>93730212
He appeared in the first volume of the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, using Robo-Dino replicas to fuck up the Statue of Liberty. Shameful use of anything Mysterio related, really.
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>>93734885
I would like to see Mysterio show up once against a big player and because they have no idea who he is and the notion of a regular human just using common illusion would be so stupid and far fetched to them he actually gets a super effective strike at them and then just fucks off.
Similar to how he made Wolverine kill his friends, but went more in depth of how he could make that. How he could fool Logan's smell and etc.
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>>93718346
this thread is based on a fallacy
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Have there ever been any Mysterio stories where he's the good guy?

And I don't mean the protagonist, though those are cool and all. I mean actually on the heroes' side.
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>>93723209
>Relegating Doctor Octopus to the role of technical support
Tinkerer's whole deal is that he can make insane gadgets but is 100% useless in a fight. Ock is more of a Master Planner.
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Is it me, or does it seem every other character whose vaguely comic relief now seems to have a dedicated comic to nothing but "Yeah, you laugh at him now...BUT NOW YOU UNDERESTIMATE HIM AND HE KILLS A DOZEN BABIES TO SHOW YOU HOW REAL TUFF HE IS!" at this point?
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>>93723509
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>>93736394
Batroc is doing that right now but with less edge, he's tutoring a young new villain how to fight and be smart on the battlefield.
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>>93736484
I mean that's not the generic subversion of "oh, look at this goofy joke character now becoming a horrific and scary threat! Doing a complete 180 of your expectations is still original and not a new cliche!" that everyone who wants to appear smart does, it just sounds like the logical conclusion of him being a Veteran at his job and thus having some things that newer people in the business would benefit from knowing.
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>>93736394
You just described the state of half of Batman's rogues gallery.
ESPECIALLY these two.
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>>93736394
Honestly I kinda like when a joke character turns out to actually be pretty though, but they really do overdo it with the edge a lot.

I mean there's no reason a villain can't be both tough but still rather silly.
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>>93736922
Yeah, it's fine if the character is at least competent but a little goofy, that can be fun.

But at this point, I am willing to bet money that the next time they try to make a joke character a threat, it'll be "look how many babies he ate" or "he made a man watch while he raped his wife" all while the victim or hero have the most painful dialogue about how the character is harmless to make it ironic like this is some fresh new idea that the author thought up.
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>>93737094
Not the person you're talking with but name one comic that has gone THAT edgy.
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>>93737138
Not quite that edgy but an electric guy from Spiderman (Electro?) zaps the gas tank of a car to make it explode and Spiderman exclaims "there where people in that car!"
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>>93737138
This guys power was that he was really fat and bouncy.

Also if you wanna go for a longer term and more permanent edgification, the Joker.
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What did Shocker do to get him so mad here? I know he's in the symbiote costume but still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw
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>>93737138
Dr. Light realizing he loves to rape. Then rapes a woman on the Justice League Satellite. Not to mention he dresses up prostitutes as the Teen Titans and proceeds to rape them.
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>>93737427
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>>93737417
Never heard of that last one.
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>>93737474
Dr. Rape
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>>93737417
>>93737513
Rape is honestly one of the laziest fucking ways to show how evil a character is, it's basically on the same level as "dude, dead babies, lmao."
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>>93737593
dead babies is edgier imo
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>>93737593
>>93737643
I don't like the rape shit either. Unless it goes with the tone of the book then fine. Otherwise its just annoying, especially in cape comics. I'd rather have a interesting villain that isn't Mark Millar-esque.
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>>93736846
But anon, don't you realise that in the War of Jokes and Riddles, there's no room for Jokes or Riddles!
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>>93737138
See also: several of Riddler's more recent appearences.
And also, Azzarello's Joker. Everything in it. But I guess Joker doesn't even count anymore because he's been a overly violent edgelord for a few decades now.
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>>93737896
Azzarello's Joker doesn't count.
It's an elseworlds neo-noir story. All the criminals in there are vicious people and it's about the shock of Johnny Johnny realizing that they are a whole other level.
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>>93737896
Joker rape?
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>>93729971
It's a good idea so they'll never do it
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>>93737896
>The Aristocrats
Simply epic.
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>>93737985
>It's an elseworlds
Oh right, it's an elseworlds.
But would it really be a surprise if it took place within the normal continuity ?
With how much writers desperately try to ramp up the shock value in Joker stories and top each other, I think the only reason why Joker hasn't been depicted as a rapist more often is because it would hurt his marketability.
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>>93737513
Was that also Meltzer (who I didn't even know wrote comics until recently)?
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>>93737643
Not always, Bloodborne for example uses a lot of references to miscarriages and dead infants in a way that isn't edgy and fits all the themes present in the work, but doesn't really have any instances of rape.

Edge is relative and how edgy something is ultimately depends on how well it's written and how well it fits the tone and theme of the overall story. Rape and dead babies used purely to show "isn't this character just sooo evil?" are on the same level, just a really lazy way for bad writers to make things "serious"
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>>93718346
I like how Ultimate Comics sort of redeemed him.
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>>93738121
The Joker itself, yeah, you could see him being canon these days.
But even Batman was a dick on that, he let's Frost die to mock Joker (even though it could be construed that he never actually says anything but the Joker is so fucking paranoid that he hears it).

I still like this Joker a lot more than some others. He's very real, the scene where he's taking a shit load of pills and sobbing on Harley's hips is the most human the Joker has ever been.

I always liked Joker having a sexual aspect, desu. My favorite Batman story is A Serious House on a Serious Earth and Joker is full blown degenerate, making sexual jokes about Robin to Batman and smacking his ass. It makes him so much more uncomfortable to be around than just "lol I might kill u for no reson lol".
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>>93737427
>>93737469
Wow. Is that for real?
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>>93737309
>That brief moment where the voice actor turns into randy savage

My sides
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>>93738164
That's exactly what I meant about Azz's Joker. It's not edgy if it fits the setting with good writing.
You wouldn't say dead babies are edgy if it's on Hellraiser. You wouldn't say the tree rape is edgy if it's on Evil Dead.
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>>93738467
Yes. Savage Dragon. That isn't the worse thing hes done. This is a variant cover that will actually be released.
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>>93738508
That's why things like that usually don't fit in with superhero comics.
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>Mysterio is just a random dude who does magic tricks
>literally gets recruited by Satan as some sort of undead enforcer

How can one man be so based?
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>>93737309
He didn't do shit, he robbed a bank or something like that.
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>>93738508
I read that original Joker book almost 10 years ago. I haven't been into comics since then. Has Azz kept making more comics?
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>>93726494
this game and its sequel deserve an HD remake
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>>93738631
Last thing I've heard about him was the Killing Joke animated movie, which isn't great and was like a year and a half ago.
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>>93718352
He was awesome in the ps1 game, especially since he's xboxhuege
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>>93738567
This
It's pretty hard to make "edgy" topics fit into a story about dudes in tights making the world a better place by punching street thugs, it can be done by very competent writers but there's not a whole lot of those around in the industry these days.
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>>93738884
>tfw no giant girl version of Mysterio
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>>93738542
what the fuck. seriously?
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>>93722005

Counterspell doesn't work if it's not an actual spell.
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>>93738924
>mysteria
>globetits
>uses practical effects to make weird hentai scenarios real

HHHHHHRRMMMMFFFFF
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>>93739186
>she teams up with femvenom
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>>93722592
That's actually a real cool idea
>Mysterio goes up against a bunch of real mages, using his illusionist talents to make the mages think he's doing next level, eldritch shit that no normal mage should even know about
>Real mages are so up their asses about their knowledge of magic that they don't even consider for a second that maybe he's not even using magic at all, and keep trying to counter spells that aren't spells at all
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How would doom counter mysterio?
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>>93739438
He'd paint a large blue number 4 on a trampoline and say it was Richards
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>>93738924
>>93739186
Its been done already
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>>93724015
Twisted Toyfare Theatre, printed in ToyFair comics in the 90's/early 2000's.

Was written and created by guys who went on to do Robot Chicken.
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>>93718559
This was actually supposed to be a thing as a quick joke in one of the Raimi movies.
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>>93722592
>>93722636
>>93729379
>Rouge in 3.5 versus Wizard
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>>93739522
I-is there more?

Also why do I feel like pretending to be a woman is something Mysterio would totally do?
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>>93738542
Wait.
That looks... suspiciously like Krash.
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>>93741005
>That looks... suspiciously like Krash.
I definitely see it
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>>93718346
>one of the most dangerous characters

Literally just a poor mans Mastermind.
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>>93741005
That's because it IS Krash.

Rafael Krás
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>>93741197
t. Rafael Barbosa
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It annoys me that no one has mentioned the one time when Mysterio actually destroyed Daredevil's life and made him believe he was involved in some weird second coming of Jesus thing.
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>>93743056
It was definitely the best Mysterio story I ever read.
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>>93743056
Wait, how did Mysterio do that to Daredevil? Daredevil is blind.
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>>93743260
Read Guardian Devil and find out. It's worth it.
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>>93743268
It seems someone did mention this and received no replies. >>93728122
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>>93736331
He sort of helped the heroes in Ends of the Earth when they made him aware of what Ock's plan really entailed.
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>>93743518
That's the only time?
Based Mysterio never compromising his villainous principles.
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>>93726481
he's one for theatrics.
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>>93737417
I like how he just becomes Dr. Rape after that incident.
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>>93743929
He doesn't really help in Ends of Earth either. He just shows Peter, Sable and Widow where Ock is and then goes 'Well, I'm done. Good luck, assholes' and disappears. He got his big show where he convinced them that they destroyed Simkaria using his only his tricks and actors and there was nothing left for him.
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>>93744293
Here's the reason he actually stays as long as he did, btw.
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>>93744335
LMAO, did Mysterio of all people just insult how someone else's head looks?
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>>93744350
Yes, he did. Mysterio and Chameleon are great together.
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>>93744335
Christ, Ock looked barely human in that form. His face looks like the splintered end of a tree limb.
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>>93744410
Pretty much just looks like Darkseid to me.
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>>93744335
>>93744364
Someone should storytime this sometime, looks cool.
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>>93744492
Ends of Earth doesn't really work without context. You'll need to storytime ASM #600 and Future Foundation arc during Slott's run at the very least. That's kinda a problem with Slott's run - everything prior to Superior works way better if you start reading from at least #648.
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>>93718925

>Nyaralahotep

Nyarlathotep, anon. Nyarlathotep.
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>>93744364

These two are an awesome team. Who wrote this? They really know how to write good chemistry between these two characters. Would love to see more of their work.
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>>93744616
That's Slott. Issue 686.
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>>93744638
do u think slott ever feels embarrassed that his name sounds like slut?
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>>93744638

Wow really? Kinda disappointing. He clearly knows how to write good dialog but he just fails at understanding the main character he's writing.
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>>93720641
Because that was bullshit
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>>93744674
He writes great villains. I want him to write ongoing about Sinister Six going on road trip.
Also, I still jhope he writes F4. He clearly likes them a lot.
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>all these Mysterio fans
At last I have found my people.
>>93730714
Damn, that's pretty cool. Makes me think of Heroes of might and Magic 3 for some reason.
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>>93744706
Pretty sure it's his design from Shattered Dimension.
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You know what? Fuck it, here's story time of first appearance.
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>>93744739
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>>93744758
I'm glad you remember what happened 2 issues ago, Betty.
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>>93744771
>The fourth panel
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>>93744779
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>>93744725
>google it
>Mysterio is the FINAL BOSS of this game
What the fuck?
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>>93744800
>>93744791
He gets super powers. He is also the final boss (and main villain) of Sinister Six story line in Marvel Future Fight.
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>>93744815
This page is amazing:
>Mysterio using the exact same reason why he wears a mask as Peter
>Jameson immediately accusing him of being Spider-Man
>He left JJ's a note instead of telling him just so he can make it disappear.
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>>93744853
We get it, Stan. Mysterio is not real.
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>>93718346
How long before marvel pulls the "Female Mysterio!!" Card?
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>>93744880
>>93744874
There was his cousin in late 90s who team-uped with Beckhart to have revenge on Spidey.
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>>93744890
Fucking parade.
Also, Flash is the best
>Spidey is the greatest
>Fuck you, Parker! Don't touch my girlfriend!
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>>93744838
Panel in the bottom left seems exploitable.
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>>93744923
Fucking magnets, man.
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>>93744957
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>>93744364
WTF I love Mysterio and Chameleon team up now
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>>93744965
I guess cameraman is right...Wait, Quentin should be part of the union, shouldn't he?
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>>93744966
What the fuck is the point of this sarcastic post? If you have a problem, just say it instead of memeing.
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>>93744974
And that's all. Any suggestions to keep thread going.
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>>93744992
Fuck. Of course I screwed up on final page.
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>>93744838
If this were any other villain I'd ask why he handed him a disappearing note instead of just telling JJJ that, but Mysterio does enjoy his theatrics.
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>>93744933
good going motor mouth
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>>93744992
>>93745002
Thanks.
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>>93718346
>dumbest looking
Maybe for you, I always thought his design was cool
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>>93744949
have they ever tried to make mysterio like jackiechan or any other stunt actors
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>>93734616
>MCU
>battles vulture who got screwed over by big business
>has already dealt with arms dealers
>comes from a poor background and his school hierarchy is determined by wealth
>Stark has been nothing but hypocritical
I'd love to see Parker become disillusioned with Stark by the end of the next film. That'd make the basis of a great crossover with Daredevil
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>>93736383
Did we get the name of Vulture's tech guy in Homecoming? Because I didnt realise until the credits scene that he's very Doc Ock
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>>93745223
I don't think they can crossover with Daredevil. Different people have the rights to the Netflix Marvel shows for some reason so they can only make vague references to the stuff that happened in the films.
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>>93745268
Really? I'm sure they could make a deal easily enough though. A bigger concern to me would be finding a compromise on the tone of Homecoming and Daredevil
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>>93745295
Well, Civil War was a completely different tone from Homecoming but still had Spiderman in it so I'm sure they could pull it off.
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>>93745238
Toomes called him Mason.
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>>93745238
Tinkerer according to the credits
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>>93745330
Oh shit, it's Perry Mason.
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>>93744787
Betty looks like she's seen hell.
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>>93729030
A better question is how is he reading that if he's blind?
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Right now, you're thinking if only you'd taken that giant act to Vegas.
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>>93745638
Text to speech, idiot. Keep up with technology.
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>>93744957
>the human torch
cruel but hilarious
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>>93737218
>electric guy
>spiderman
First, fuck off
Second, Electro is hardly a joke villain and killing a few people isn't maximum edge
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>>93737427
>>93737469
Let me see if I got this right: the little girl eventually became a superhero, and her weird toy eventually gained consciousness and fucked her after a long battle?

This is like an even more perverted version of Ted.
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>>93736394
Stilt-Man doesn't
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>>93723201
Beck came back in Deadpool/Spidey and then got revealed to be still dead
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More story times. This time, the one where these two:
>>93724307
>>93724342
Come from.
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>>93747502
Also, the way for me to tell you how amazing Martin is.
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>>93747550
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>>93747435
neither does Paste-Pot-Pete
or White Rabbit
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>>93747646
>>93747467
Fucking really? This shit needs to stop. Can't wait for the next writer to go 'lol, I was just trolling you'
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>>93747910
Next issue. This cover is amazing.
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>>93738542
... there'll be an uncensored version for it, right?
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>>93747925
Special appearances by George Stacy and Jean DeWolff.
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>>93747999
A+ acting, Quentin.
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>>93748156
This scheme is great.
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>>93748214
For interested: Kaine and one-off villain Raptor happened.
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>>93748228
>ted: Kaine and one-off villain Raptor happened.
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>>93748270
Shit like this is why Mysterio is terrifying.
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>dangerous
When? His potential is rarely explored and it's mostly in fucking videogames.
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>>93718859
He actually escaped from Dr Strange once before. He fooled Iron Man into seeing Strange as an enemy and that was able to distract him long enough.
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>>93737250
That never happened.
Apocalypse and Phoenix fight destroyed the Ultimate Universe and everything from then on are just what-ifs.
Fuck you assholes, this is my headcanon
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>>93748310
>It would've worked if Pete didn't know George so well
Also, Peter is completely justified in being angry here.
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>>93748400
Beck with ducked up sense of humor is the best Beck.
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>>93748310
>>93748353
Yeah this was too big of a card to play. He should have just let them all "die" without more DRAMA. Obviously Mysterio couldn't help himself because that's what a cheesy filmmaker he is.
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>>93748419
Last issue. Probably my favorite Slott issue. Also, this cover is great, even though not as good as prevous one.
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>>93736394
Meanwhile, villains who are supposed to be monsters get defanged. Sabretooth and Daken are pretty much good/morally ambigious guys now,
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>>93748486
The Rhino issues will always be my favorite Slott stuff.
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>>93748514
>Am I a real Quentin Beck?
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>93748557
Rhino issues were Joe Kelly's. Hillariously, Gugenheim was the first to say that he'll revamp Rhino and was talking a lot about it. Somehow, Kelly got Rhino arc AND Grim Hunt.
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>>93748595
>Rhino issues were Joe Kelly's.
I thought they weren't Slotts but I was too lazy to look it up. Thanks for the correction and storytime.
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>>93748608
Mysterio saying 'Yo' is amazing.
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>>93722034
most of these characters have literary met God and they are still being written as atheists, makes zero sense. Spidey is an example, met the one above all
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>>93748636
Sorry
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>>93748660
That's great explaination for why most of Peter's villains are not global threads and sticks with fighting him. They all live in the rush of the moment and only a handful have long plans.
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>>93748738
Daniel and Francis are probably Daniel Berkhart and Francis Klum, Quentin's replacements.
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Why does Mysterio speak in green? How am I supposed to imagine that voice? What kind of voice does "green" convey?
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>>93748767
This page is the best.
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>>93748781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ-IxZ46ng
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>>93748781
He has voice modulator to sound more mysterious. Imagine as cheesy as you can
>>93748800
That's a good choice, too.
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>>93748843
He is actually not lying. Mysterio was the one who helped Norman fake Harry's death.
Also, I know people disagree, but 'duh' is a great explaination for why Mysterio is alive.
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>>93748888
Than goes:
>>93740217
And than this page
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>>93749018
That's really gay, Chameleon.
And that is all.
You can actually buy this arc and Rhino issues in one book. That a bunch of good Spidey comics.
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>>93748738
peter really needs to be a gas filter in his mask
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thank you for the storytimes <3
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>>93740922
I need more. Also double dubs for double globes :^)
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>>93748614
IIRC the entire point of the Gauntlet was because Slott was late as shit getting his scripts in on time and sales were in the toilet as far as fans wholesale rejecting Brand New Day.

Kelly was hired as part of the writing crew for BND and basically wanted to bring back Spidey's older villains (there had been a moratorium of sorts on using Spider-Man's existing rogue gallery at the time; hence villains like Mr Negative, and other relationship drama dominating the book at the start of BND, though this had started to loosen by the time Mark Waid started writing BND Spider-Man).

The plan with Gauntlet was to spike sales by bringing back Spider-Man's older villains, tied into the whole Loli Raven story Slott was building. Slott's involvement in Grim Hunt was kept to a minimum, due to him running late with scripts, issues with Bendis (Bendis basically BANNED Slott from using Jessica Drew in Grim Hunt), and Gauntlet itself being a sort of stealth test to get rid of Slott.

It's why Slott's role in the Gauntlet was kept to a minimum outside a couple of chapters and why Kelly (granted going off of Slott's notes) wrote Grim Hunt. They wanted to see if removing Slott from the book and letting Kelly run things (with other writers backing him up), could stop the sales downward spiral trapped in.

Also the return/death of Kaine? Done mainly because Slott had done a Spider-Clone themed story a couple of months back and it had pulled better sales than most BND issues at that time. Julia Carpenter as supposed to die instead of Kaine, but Slott vetoed it and suggested Kaine die instead, but with the "out" that Kaine would rise from the grave as a Spider-Monster, since Slott was already working on Spider-Island during this period where he was basically on an unofficial vacation from the book.

Sadly, Grim Hunt and Gantlet did not do well, so Slott kept ASM and Kelly had to wait a couple of years before he was given his own Spider-Man book.
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>>93749567
Kaine's arc was by Gugenheim.
Also, Gugeheim again was talking about Rhino way before Gauntlet was officially announced. So was Kraven's daughter. He even wrote her little story that foreshadowed Gauntlet (that was Sinister 666 at the time). It seems to me they wanted to have Gugenheim on the book, but he did so little and none of his arc was critically received.
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Brutal.
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>>93744578
Next you tell me its Cthulhu than Ktulu.
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>>93747588
>MAX comes back
>Pete is a serial rapist who suspends his victims in his glue like a scene out of some blob monster movie for later use
>all the goo isnt glue
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>>93748888
I'd have preferred them just using PAD's rationalization for bringing Quentin Beck back: he actually did die but got upgraded to demon status in hell, then came back now with actual reality warping demon powers.

Also, fuck Slott having Mysterio and Norman faking Harry's death. Should have just fucking used Secret Invasion/reveal that it was a Skrull impersonating Harry that died. Would not have nuked Norman's motivations as a character (avenging Harry/corrupting his grandson and Spidey) and also, given Norman a perfectly acceptable reason for abandoning his hate boner for Spider-Man in order to spend about 5-6 years of his life tormenting the Avengers and Iron Man in particular.
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>>93749772
It is.
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>>93749049
Always a pleasure to re-read.
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>>93744874
Maguire Beck, but she was Jack O'Lantern instead of a Mysterio. Still, she used the "Master of Illusion" (albeit with holograms and VR and shit like that) gimmick instead of just being a brawler like most of the other Jacks.

The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon also had a female Mysterio pop-up, Beck's daughter Francie.
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>>93750972
Honestly, turning killing Spider-Man into family affair sounds like the thing Quentin would do. I kinda want him to have family and teach his daughter how to built robots and shit.
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>>93748682
I like Mysterio using industry slang. Nice touch.
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>>93740922

It's so dumb it's great
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>>93750972
>that scene where Moon Knight just fucking stabs her in the face

Based Marc.
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>>93748639
Didn't Reed once build a elevator to heaven to bring Ben back to life? The One Above All gave them Ben back on the condition that they never use the elevator again.
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>>93751918
Don't you mean Jake, Yitzak or Steven?
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