I think we can all agree on this: SM2 > SM1 > SM:HC =

I agree

SM2>SM1=SM:HC>SM3>ASM1>ASM2

>>93716445

You meant a '>' where you put that '=', yes?

Either way, I put SM3 over ASM1.


And I can't agree on Homecoming's placement only because I haven't seen it yet. Though I will say that it's interested me enough that I'm actually going to the theater for it, which hasn't happened for me (as far as Spider-Man movies go) since SM2.

>>93716445
I think 3 is above ASM1 and I think HC is above 3

>>93716688
It's medicore

>We

Stop trying to act like you have friends, OP.

>>93716445
MMM let me see.... Yep, you got it right anon.
AND...and, that there is no room, hype or need for a venon and black cat movie...right?

>>93716445

Spider-Man 2 is shit.

The villain's impetus to commit crimes is because his mechanical tentacles told him to.

>>93716970
hi, reddit

>>93716445
I would swap asm1 and sm3 but otherwise yeah
asm1 is still way too unfocused on peter's characterization and niether homecoming or 3 had something as bad and contrived as the camera bullshit from asm1 so I rate them a little higher. might just be I still really don't like that movie.

>>93716445

Can't they all be shit?

I don't think we've nailed Spider-Man yet. And with all this shit, it doesn't look like we'll ever get to.

>>93716445
asm1 = sm2 >hc > sm1 > asm2 > sm3

>>93716445
Agreed. I like Homecoming but damn I miss Tobey.

>>93716445
I CONCUR

>>93716445
Close but you used the = in the wrong place.
SM2 > SM1 = SMHC > ASM1 > SM3 > ASM2

>>93716445
>SM:HC = ASM1
Oh fuck no. ASM1 was a charmless, sterile bore whose only claim to fame was that it was better than what followed. SM:HC has so much more personality to recommend it in comparison. Better villain, better humor, better atmosphere, better lead, etc.

>>93716970
>Norman Osborne is told to do evil deeds by an evil mask
>Otto Octavius is told to do evil deeds by mechanical tentacles
>Harry Osborne is told to kill Spider-Man by his dead dad's evil mask

What's your point?

>SM2 remained the best cape movie until Logan this year

Fucking how

>>93717209
same shit plot

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>>93716445
I think we can all agree that any OP starting with "I think we can all agree" is absolute cancer.

>>93717212
Not that guy, and I like Spider-Man 2 alright, but I'd say the takeaway from all that you said is that Vulture's motivation in HC not being "I'm a crazy guy and I want to kill Spider-Man!" was a breath of fresh air.

>>93717224
Fucking hardly
>ASM1 has another "guy turns villainous and crazy because of an experiment and tries to do some insane half-cocked plan Spider-Man need to prevent" we'd already seen several times in the Raimi movies
vs.
>HC has Peter go up against a griping working class villain with a believable grudge who's trying to pull off high-stakes heists that will release dangerous weapons to criminals
You can think it's a stupid plot, but it's not the same hackneyed seen it before trite BS of ASM1.

>>93716445
Homecoming > rest

/thread

>>93716445
HOL UP
>we

Homecoming pros:
Drawing from USM (wanting to be on the Avengers) without the "scripted wit" feel
Tom Holland was a great Peter, Michael Keaton was a grounded and great villain, and supporting cast (Mainly Ned) was good.
The movie humanized Peter and even Spider-Man incredibly well (and in the early stages, Peter is meant to be the most relatable character in Marvel)
Toomes' hatred toward Spider-Man was done well. He was a pest that was foiling his endeavors. That's all you need baseline for Spider-Man to draw hatred from someone and it worked well.

Homecoming cons:
4 action scenes but a lacking "fight" scene
The ass-pulls of making Adrian Toomes Liz's father and MJ "reveal"(Definitely blaming Sony for that)

>>93717161
look at this, a purist. good for you man.

I legit liked Amazing Spiderman 2 in the same way I liked Sups vs Bats in that it had a lot of bad stuff, but also good stuff, only ASM2 was in general a lot better then BvS.

>>93717223
>Logan
dont do that dude... or you wiil need to explain how the fuck the universal understanding of "indestructible" has changed for the entire world

>>93717223
BvS is better than both.

>>93717510
This. Peter's dilemma of wanting to help and feel important was much more entertaining and realistic than any of the other films. I really felt like I was watching a teenager struggle with being a student and a super hero for the first time.

Speak for yourself anon.

SM2>>>>>>>*SM:HC>SM1>ASM1>>>>>>>literal hot wet shit poured all over your eyes>>>>>>>>>>>SM3>ASM2

>>93716445
HC > SM2 > SM1 > SM3 > ASM2 > ASM1

Ultimate Spiderman the movie was fun as fuck.

>>93717510
The only good thing in Homecoming was the slight expose of the villain really being a scrapper, doing whatever he needed to make money for his family.

He wasn't even evil in the stereotypical sense.

Everyone else was shit, the movie had zero pacing, jokes mostly fell flat.

>>93718184
Except when he killed a guy and shrugged it off?

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>people actually like SM2

>>93717865
actually this though

barring the ridiculous Audi ad placement, it's pretty much a flawless vanilla Spider-Man movie

>>93718217
You're like a hobo that barges into a social gathering of aristocrats and calls them uncultured pigs while shitting on the floor before being forcefully removed.

I'd put SM1 over SM2.

Neither are really bad movies, there's just more I like about the first one.

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>>93717365
>>93717970
this

>>93716445
This is okay.

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>>93716445
SM1>SM2>ASM>ASM2>SM3>Iron Man 4

>>93716445

SM1>SM2>HC>SM3>ASM1>ASM2

>>93716970
They encouraged him to go for what he desired, which was to complete his life's work.

>>93716445
I feel like Homecoming was, generally, an OK movie, and a good MCU movie, but was certainly lacking as a "Spider-Man" movie.

Like, I wouldn't even try to compare it with the others. It feels like a completely different character sharing Spidey's aesthetics.

>>93718889
t. idiot who didn't see the greatest superhero movie ever made

>>93718919
It isn't anon. You may be a typical fucking nobody who eats up anything the MCU shits out but some of us have fucking standards and Iron Man 4 is uninspired trash written for the youtube generation.

>>93718935
>uninspired trash

I thought that was the ASM franchise. As someone who's neither seen ASM or Homecoming, even I can tell that ASM has far less integrity behind it considering it's sole existence was to retain the rights. Homecoming actually seems like it's trying to be something as it's seemingly interesting enough that I might actually go see it.

I enjoyed Spider-man 3 as a comedy.

What about Spider-Man 3.1?

>>93718967
ASM is only put above Homecoming because it features a Peter using his brain instead of relying on someone elses. Developing the shooters, the web, that scene where he feels the vibrations across the webs, it was all prime time Spider-Man and as vital to his character as the jokes something that was lost in Homecoming.

>>93718889
>>93718935
>crossposters from /tv/
you have to go back

>>93718997
>I don't agree so he has to be a /tv/ shitter

No wonder Slott does so well when there are faggots like you so ready to eat up anything with a Spider in it.

>>93716793
This.

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>>93718246
>barring the ridiculous Audi ad placement

What the actual fuck are you talking about? If there was any car I have seen shown to much it would've be when spiderman steals Flash Ghandu's car but I didn't notice it was an audi, and even if it was, it wasn't really an advertisement as much as it was base on the plot.

On another note though, what would've been even worse was that it would've been a pizza hut commercial given that I see promotion of the movie on the pizza boxes. Thank God they didn't do that.

>>93718935
>I am a strong and proud individual and not a sheeple since I have contrarian opinions about movies

I was honestly thinking "he's probably just 14" but then I read the youtube generation bit and cringed when I realized no you're probably like 26 and seriously think this way.

>>93717510

That "ass-pull" was amazing and raised the stakes for both the hero and villain all in one moment, I don't give a fuck if they change fucking Liz Allen's family structure from the comics.

>>93718996
Didn't Tom Holland's spiderman actually develop the web shooters before he got the suit? I know that Tony Stark made different variants for the web shooters but based on what I saw in the movies (homecoming and Civil war) those webshooters were originally his I think. That being said the first ASM did a great job showing that.

>>93719075
>Didn't Tom Holland's spiderman actually develop the web shooters before he got the suit?

Yes. We see him use them in Civil War. Peter's were more janky and cumbersome. Tony just made a more refined and streamlined version because, unlike Peter, he's got the resources to.

>>93716445
I wonder if Andrew Garfield feels embarrassed and humiliated by all this.

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>>93719121

He should. The only reason any of this was possible was because he pissed off Sony's execs so much that they pulled the plug on the ASM franchise and all that would spin off from it.

>>93719144
>be in a reboot that was supposed to make up for the messy hole SM3 left and restore Spidey's good name
>it ends up being significantly worse than SM3 and hated by everyone to the point of needing yet another reboot

JUST

>>93718184
It was far superior to any of the Raimi shitshows.

>>93717212
That these people need to stop skipping their therapy sesssions, but if they did that we would lose about half of all super villains (not even counting an archnemesis because almost all of them have serious hate boners only a lobotomy can cure)

>>93719121
>>93719144
He should feel proud he ended the Sony abomination train and helped deliver the character back to Marvel Studios where he belongs.

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>>93719177
>>be in a reboot that was supposed to make up for the messy hole SM3 left and restore Spidey's good name
It wasn't made to fill a void that SM3 left. It was made as a save point because if they didn't do anything with the property after a certain time-span they would've lost it and it would go right back to Marvel.

>it ends up being significantly worse than SM3 and hated by everyone to the point of needing yet another reboot

Not everyone hates it, just most people. Kids who were introduced to it first are pretty much the only people who hold it in any positive light.

Pic somewhat related. She's gone on record saying she likes the ASM movies over the Raimi films.

homecoming got that teen feel just right, the whole bit with flash and the crowd chanting penis parker was straight out of a public school,

>>93719121
I hope not. ASM movies were good for what they were.

>>93716445
Yeah, seems fine
I remember being literally on the edge of my seat in the theatre during the Dr. Ock fights. There was just something about 2 that made it better than 1.
Then 3 ruined everything and now Pete is aging backwards

>>93719257
Sure to be a hit with kids

>>93719254
Get off /co/, Garfield, your movies were shit.

2>1>3>literal shit>everything else

>>93719341
>Get off /co/, Garfield, your movies were shit.

How does my post come off as me being a prick with a tiny head?

>>93719065
Besides, wasn't Liz already related to a Spider-Man villain (Molten Man) in the first place? Or was it Betty?

>>93719029
Bruh there was literally a scene where Happy is driving Peter to the new Avengers HQ and he says "Isn't it impressive?" and the scene shows the Audi AI or some shit and then it cuts to the Avengers HQ.

>>93719391
It's just obvious, Andrew.

>>93719144
what did he do again?

>>93719462
>what did he do again?

I don't remember the details, but basically there was a meeting with Sony about what they were gonna do for the next ASM movie and anything else that followed. Garfield was supposed to be part of the meeting, but opted to skip out for whatever reason. The Sony execs who were present for the meeting were so offended by it that they shut down any and all plans that were or could've been slated to happen for the franchise.

If anyone involved with the ASM franchise were enjoying any level of success from it and it ceased when production was cancelled, it's entirely because Andrew Garfield couldn't be bothered to show up for a meeting. He literally killed his biggest role ever.

>>93719613
>He literally killed his biggest role ever.
He took one for the team. Knowing that TASM3 would feature the symbiote with powers to revive dead people makes me glad Andrew didn't go to the meeting.

>>93716445
I disliked SM1-3. I think HC was better than them. Come argue with me, anons.

All that said, "Flash's" character just made me roll my eyes and MJ did as well to a lesser extent only because of the super superfluous connection they had to make between her and the comic character. I liked Ned. He really feels like a big sperg who you're still friends with because you share interests with him and am willing to overlook his other flaws. Glad they didn't insert any "drama" between Peter and Ned, with Peter neglecting Ned just to try and score with his crush. Shows that his problem isn't that he doesn't have a proper set of morals and just puts all the focus on his desire to validate his own sense of self-worth.

Was the White/Silver haired girl who kept showing up in the background supposed to be Felicia?

no way SM3 better then ASM2 i

>>93719349
T H I S

SM 2 > SM 1 > SM 3 > ASM > Homocumming > ASM 2

The biggest laughs in the audience at the viewing I went to were from the Captain America tapes. Anyone else get the same?

>>93716970
>implying that homecoming got deep or original villains

>>93719694
Why would anyone argue the truth

What was your reaction when this happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEz_zs67hwY

>>93717207
This

>>93718889
>Iron Man 4
What does that have to do with anything in this thread, it was Iron Man 6 and Iron Man 7 that featured Spider-Man.

>>93719694
Flash was pretty much that beta bully that would've been some bigger bully's toady if he was in any other school.

I did like "MJ" as a character, but if they wanted her to be MJ, just give her the name.

Unless "Mary Jane" is going to be an alias later or something.

>>93719349
This is the only correct list in this thread.

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>>93717739
lol

>>93716445
>I think
And that is where you went wrong.

>>93719257

I don't know what kind of high school you went to but shit like that would've gotten him roasted instead for being on peter's dick so much

>>93720497
I think this scene made me hate this movie forever, that or the Electro Dub Step intro, or the annoying kid and Rhino scenes

>>93720497
FOR NO REASON

>>93716445
SM1 > SM 2 > SM:HC > ASM 1 > SM3 > ASM2

I can't stand Tobey.

I liked SM1 and 2 a ton when they came out, but I feel like time has not been kind to them. They're not a kind of cheesey that I enjoy any more.

>>93720497
I chuckled to myself because I immediately thought of baneposting

>>93716445
Almost man, lemme fix that for you

SM2 > SM1 > HC > SM3 > ASM1 > dogshit > ASM2

2 > Homecoming = 1 >>>>>>>>>>> 3 > ASM > > ASM 2

I'm a en expert, by the way.

>>93722952
I agree

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Raimi movies > everything else. The movies are still the peak of the comic book movies. This moment alone is better than the whole MCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_44L4Ffff9w

>>93722952
Agreed but id but ASM above SM3

>>93716445
To me, Homecoming Spiderman felt like he was straight out of the comics

>>93722985
>1st 2 Raimi movies > everything else
fixed that for you

>>93723061
Weird way to spell SM1-SM3

>>93716970
He was borderline obsessed with his experiment and probably a bit insane with grief after his wife died.

>>93716445
Haven't seen HC yet but I agree with the rest of it.

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>>93723085
>implying
SM3 is the funniest comicbook movie ever. Better humor than the whole MCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp4_wcNlsew

Why was Flash so gay for Peter?

>>93720497
Is this shit real? I can't even begin to process how awful this scene is. Also holy shit there are people defending Garfield as Spider-man. The fuck is that about.

>>93717585
I'm always surprised at the amount of flak ASM2 gets. It had its problems and it tried to do way too much, but I enjoyed it.

I just really wanted to see the films manage to do the Gwen death and then have Peter grieve, move on, and find love again with MJ. Now we'll never get that.

I agree with everything except that I believe Homecoming is better than ASM1

>>93723701
Dude, his web turned into a teeny tiny hand trying to save Gwen. Its directed by Mark "Webb". Its a total joke. More than SM3.

>>93716445
Does Holland Spidey have a spider sense or not?

>>93723822
It was a corny and completely unnecessary visual metaphor, but it didn't bother me so much. I actually find the first two Raimi films to hold up less and less each time I watch them, even though SM2 might still be my favorite.

>>93716445

SM2=SM:HC>SM1>SM3>ASM1>ASM2

>>93723868
Probably a function of the suit in this case, seeing as he couldn't sense Vulture coming

>>93716445
2>HC>1>>3>>>>>>>Being eaten alive by bears>>>>>>>>ASM1>ASM2

Just got back from seeing it, I loved Homecoming. People might say I'm full of shit, but it was full of heart. I went into it with no doubts at all and left pleased with what I saw. I still regret to this day that I saw both Amazing Spider Mans in cinemas. The second one was an abomination and made me hate Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.

>>93716445
Homecoming >>>> Raimi > Webb

>>93716445
Homecoming is fucking miles better than Amazing Spider-Man.

>>93717207
Agreed.

>>93717767
Yeah that was definitely what I liked the most about the movie. It was really well done.

>>93716445
Now how the fuck could you put SM3 over ASM2.

SM: H>ASM>SM2>SM1>ASM2>SM3

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>>93716445
>"With white power comes great responsibility Peter. Its the niggers and gooks that stop us, they roam this city like toxic waste, infecting everything they touch, they're a disease and the city is sick. Be the cure Peter, make them pay. It'd be best for you to remember that."


Holy shit what the FUCK Raimi???

>>93724045
This should satisfy anyone.

>>93724846
>HC better than SM1
Yeah no

>>93716649
This

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>>93724903
SM2>SM1>SM:HC>SM3=ASM1>ASM2

>>93719075
>>93718996
I liked the scene in Homecoming showing him making webfluid under the counter during chemistry class

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Explain to me why the old Spider Man movies are considered the best?

Certainly nostalgia plays a role.

>>93725361
Certainly you are a kid.

>>93725361
You're saying that like they weren't praised since release

>>93716445
Amazing 2 > Amazing 1 > 3 > 1 > 2

And will not watch Homcoming

>>93716445
One of my favorite things about Homecoming was how Peter declines joining the Avengers. Including him in the team would've been the most obvious thing to do and having Peter decline Tony's offer did a great job of further establishing that sense of duty Spider-Man feels towards his community.

Besides, that new suit looked kinda ugly

>>93719694
Ned was awesome. He was just as spergy as Peter and they had great chemistry. The parts where he briefly acts as "the guy in the chair" were fun.

>>93720497
This is up there with that crigy ass Electro theme in terms of shittiness. Good God.

SM 2 > SM 1 > SM 3 = SM: HC > AM 1 > AM 2

>>93717122
Same. Still can't believe people loved SM2. Just saw again recently and it does have some bright spots but overall it's fucking lame. Spidey should be a tv series or something because the live action movies have all been crappy compared to other hero films.

>>93718996
>ASM is only put above Homecoming because it features a Peter using his brain instead of relying on someone elses. Developing the shooters, the web

In ASM he buys his webs from Oscorp. In HC, he makes them himself in the school chem lab.

>>93719423
That was so brief that I actually didn't even notice and I thought he was talking about the avengers hq

>>93727116
If SM3 was better than HC, AM 1 and 2, then I am better off never seeing them.

Nah, it's more like:

HC > ASM1 > SM2 > SM1 > ASM2

SM3 was a mistake played as a gag.

>>93722985

>le good new yorker trope

I hated it then, I hate it now.

>>93720497

What's so bad about this scene?

>inb4 hurr the music is bad

>>93728017
It's a cheesy as fuck montage and yes, the song being bad is one of the causes.

>>93727688
This right here is one of the biggest fails of that series, everything's so damn coincidental and ready for Peter to just walk right into it

I mean, Peter's Spider-origins are by concept coincidental, he's normal kid that happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and gets bit, but in the TASM movies he literally just walks himself into the "super spiders" room, gets bitten and steals the web idea, just like that. As far as in-universe logic goes he could've stumbled in the mental arms room and mistakenly become Doc Ock just as easily

His gf just happens to work at the labs even though she's an highschooler, his camera just happens to have his fucking name on it, the worker guy just happens to have a perfectly lined bunch of cranes, Peter just happens to break the thing with the train coins and so forth

I've seen people shitposting that anons should accuse Homecoming of the same faults because they're trying to set up the Sinister Six again, but the movie literally just made a couple of criminals speaking to each other, TASM2 introduced 3 ready supervillains in a single hit (one of which, Rhino, was literally a scam as far as marketing goes) and then had a "AND THIS IS THE SINISTER SIX ROOM" moment with mystery man walking next to all the weapons and costumes ready to just have a nobody like Alexei wearing them. What was up with that guy anyway?

>>93716649
this

>>93728017
It's a damn pop love song being used for a father-son relationship
In what fucking planet would a guy refer to his dad as "baby"

>>93716445
SM2 > SM1 > SM:HC > SM3 > ASM1 = ASM2

>>93720497
This scene feels so...sony. I like the song by itself but it feels so out of place and I can't help but picture those Amy Pascal emails whenever I watch it. It just screams "We're hip!"

>>93728101
Pretty much. The TASM movies are pretty much Bullshit Plot Conveniences: The Franchise

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>yfw sony was trying to be hip

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People actually think the cancer that was Spiderman 3 should be compared to literally anything else with the spiderman name on it?

To see anyone even saying that its better than homecoming makes me want to fucking puke

>>93730123
It was a really fun movie. I prefer it over any ASM movie

>>93716445
>we can all agree

Fuck NO

>>93716445
No we can't you nostalgiafagging cheesefucker

Homecoming got a whole lot of shit right. It's my #1 now and SM2 is slightly behind it.

>>93720497
>>93728017
garfield doesn't look like a convincing teenager. having him moping around on his bed listening to pop music just looks pathetic, he's a 30 year old man and it shows.

for some reason I cant bring myself to like homecoming I don't know what it is but there is something about it that doesn't sit well with me. I mean I want to like the movie but I cant and I don't know why

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>you will never have a cute-voiced AI urging you to use instant-kill mode and helping you with your love life

>>93717365
>>93718637

Mousepajeets get out.

>>93718905
Holland definitely felt like Spidey/Peter. Its more the world around him that felt off and very far removed.

>>93732564
>Its more the world around him that felt off and very far removed.
elaborate

>>93732513
I liked Karen but I just feel like she was out of place in the movie

>>93728144
>It's a damn pop love song being used for a father-son relationship

It's about Peter and Gwen. In case that shot of a picture of them together with "Do I have to lose you too" written on it was too subtle.

>>93732823
Wow that totally redeems that scene now. Thanks anon.

>>93732823
t. /tv/poster who hasn't watched ASM defending it just to shit on HC

truly amazing, maybe the dozens of shots of his father didn't help you? Here I'll even point out the exact time 1:02

>>93732912
The prospect of losing Gwen is what galvanized Peter to make his conspiracy wall and the picture at the end exemplifies that. Hell, the sole reason he lays down to angst is because Gwen is moving away.

Why didn't Spidey just date Karen?