>Editorial is miserable. Understaffed, under experienced and

>>93709023
>Legacy is a rush-job. They can’t afford to take the classic characters off the table like that for so long but they also don’t want to piss off the new diverse audience they’ve been trying to court. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too, and please all masters. It’s a scattershot way to buy time while they right the course on several books. It’s not going to be about “new number 1s” but milestone 500, 600, 800 issues. A lot of these big volume numbers are really stretching the definition but the constant relaunches have started to seriously damage the trade department’s ability to plan out long-term marketing.

>They’re bringing back the Ultimate line for the teen heroes. Miles will become Ultimate Spider-Man again. Siri becomes Ultimate Iron Man. X-Men Blue becomes Ultimate X-Men. Champions becomes the Ultimates. The only “adult” character that will be a regular presence is Captain Marvel because they want her to be seen a prominent character to the overarching power structure of the WSC/SHIELD and other elements that will factor into her movie heavily. They’ll still make guest appearances in the “main” books but don’t expect them to anchor anymore franchises. Bendis staying on Miles and Riri. Hopeless is still on Ult X. New Ultimates writer is Amy Reeder

Hi Rich!

>>93709047
>Waid is a stop-gap on Cap to bridge the Legacy launch, then takes over Iron Man with 600 (Doom will be the main villain). Coates is taking over Cap with 700. They want him on the book to endorse the image rehabilitation. There’s a lot of face-palming internally about the “cap is a nazi” talk. He’s on both that and Black Panther as long as his schedule allows.

>They got lucky with Greg Pak and Hulk. It leads into a Planet Hulk revival pretty seamlessly.

>Jane Foster dying was always the end-game with the storyline, but the positive response with female fans means they’re trying to find a way to make her stick around. Tentatively planning to make her the new Valkyrie as the movie version is a blank slate and no one cares about the 70s Defenders character.
>Classic Thor will be space-bound for awhile. Definitely through “Ragnarok.”

>>93709076
>Slott is off Amazing Spider-Man. They’re going to move him over to Friendly Neighborhood; the fear is he would sign exclusive with DC if they took it away from him completely. Plus he struggles with deadlines and there’s less risk with him off to the side. They can’t ignore declining sales anymore and it’s time for a refresh.
>Spencer was earmarked for ‘Amazing Spider-Man” for awhile but he’s “earned it” after taking the heat for Secret Empire. Plus there are fans of his “Superior Foes” book in editorial and the plan is to emphasize tech-based criminals, go smaller scale, focus on NYC. Yes, like the movie. No, they’re not going to de-age him to a teenager. (Although it is a corporate synergy idea that has been floated; editorial has been able to argue that there’s no great way to do it … yet. They’re hoping Tom Holland ages up and they give up on that idea. The time-displaced X-Men are an albatross brought on by First Class synergy).
>No major plans for MJ beyond guest spots here and there. The marriage isn’t coming back ever. Renew Your Vows will stick around until its a money-loss. It’s just a spin-off that had some legs, like Spider-Gwen. Silver Sable/Black Cat plans are being developed. Big plans for the Venom series to have a central role in Marvel events.

>>93709107
>The X-Men are still in a tight spot. ResurrXion was itself a rush job after the Inhumans movie push was officially kaput and there was no future for family of books. Because of the Fox issue, they still can’t create new ideas that could go toward the movies so its literally just nostalgia retreads. Uncanny will be back next year with Xavier. Old Man Logan is sticking around for the foreseeable future with X-23 becoming his sidekick, the book will be called “Wolverine.” They burned out Deadpool fans with the price gouging, so no plans for spin-off series, but there will always be mini-series on the side to line out trades.

>Seriously, don’t expect the classic Fantastic Four anytime soon. Ike has seemingly dug his heels in; even though Fox will probably never figure out what to do with them, he’s spiting the brand because of how bad the negotiations went. Sue & Reed and the kids are seen as “boring” enough to sacrifice. Two-In-One is basically a containment book for people to get their F4 fix. It’s an inventory book, no set writer, it’s like “Avenging Spider-Man” or “A+X.” Different writers will get to use different pet characters.

>>93709137
>Ms. Marvel is in a funky spot because most at Marvel are aware that something organically special happened with her book. She’s basically the new “Runaways,” a special project with a special writer’s connection. It will last as long as Wilson wants to writer her, with a focus on the bookstore market while she pops in and out of other books when relevant. They want the audience to have enough familiarity with her because it’s inevitable she’ll be adapted sooner than later; it’s way too soon for her to be introduced into any Carol Danvers sequels so the TV division might snag her for their Hulu/Freeform teen show pitches. (Moon Girl is saved by her trade sales but the threshold is much lower for if sales drop any lower.)

>Wilson is also taking over Captain Marvel. They need to make it work and she’ll do the best job tying the legacy together. Kamala, Monica Rambeau, SWORD — its all part of it.

>Runaways is just a mini-series. They just want the trade out in time for the Hulu show. They can’t seem to get readers to care if it’s not BKV but they know people still love the franchise.
>Cloak & Dagger and New Warriors series are coming. Squirrel Girl is wrapping up and North is moving her storylines over to NW where she’ll be the main character.

>>93709160
>Elektra, Bullseye, Kingpin tanking so hard shook them. They need the “Marvel Knights Netflix” corner to be sustainable, so they’re relying on Bendis on Defenders & Jessica Jones for awhile. Say what you want about his other stuff, everyone here thinks its still his sweet spot.
>Brian Buccellato is on Daredevil with issue 600.
>Justin Jordan is on Moon Knight; big hope that he can give Marvel their “mature” critically acclaimed book that juices up that corner of Marvel.

>Secret Warriors and Royals are already wrapping up. Rosenberg is moving over to one main Inhumans book. Quake/SHIELD will be background characters until “Agents” wraps up (everyone knows this is the last season).
>They’re going to give Ahmed a shot with Black Bolt until sales drop.

>No plans to take Duggan off Guardians. Gunn is moving full steam ahead with Adam Warlock weirdness and they want to make sure those characters/ideas are “accessible” but still fun.

>Punisher War Machine is just one storyline involving Stark tech. They want to pull the character back from some of the real-life darkness and imagery; Nate Edmondson’s rep + Secret Empire has made him “ugly” (plus no one cares about Cloonan’s run). They want to scale him back to the Spider-Man/Defenders side of street-level, with less focus on real guns and more emphasis on comic book-y tech.

>Al Ewing is on Spirits of Vengeance. Editorial likes him, but he can’t sell a book to save his life. They just want someone with a love of Marvel lore to write the magic/horror characters to have them prepped for future Movie Phase exploration with a Blade reboot. They know that corner of Marvel horror needs its own “Annihilation.”

>>93709023
>chincy

Its chintzy.

>>93709427
I thought it was chinsie.

>>93709427
lol

>>93709107
>No major plans for MJ beyond guest spots here and there. The marriage isn’t coming back ever.
How long til Mary Jane Watson is killed off and replaced with Black MJ?

>>93709177
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>>93709023
this is much more believable than this shit here >>93681892
what the fuck is the Vanishing Point exactly, anon?
>Brian Buccellato is on Daredevil with issue 600.
>Justin Jordan is on Moon Knight
LMAO at these, both guys are hacks

>>93709076
Coates on Cap was not a very well kept secret

>>93709137
Two in one could really be fun. Let the writers enjoy themselves.

Link?

>>93709023
>a hero vs hero fight over politics followed by a betrayal and conquest that was secretly planned decades ago leads into an oppressive status quo

I know Marvel has become the House of Recycled Ideas and OP might be making fanfics but I honestly would not be surprised if Marvel was copypasting almost a decade's worth of event storylines.

>>93709023
A lot of it had to do with Marvel’s chincy practices finally reaching a breaking point with fans but the internal editorial spin is that comic shop fans aren’t ready to embrace change.
>It's not our fault our shitty books and practices failed, the comic shops are just racist and totes made the book purposely bomb!!!!

Stay classy, Marvel.

>>93709137
>FOX: "Here's Daredevil and Ghost Rider, you guys want Fantastic Four?"
>Ike: "HAHA FANTASTIC FOUR IS SHIT!"

Later
>Ike: "Alright, give me Fantastic Four."
>FOX: "Sorry, we're not selling."
>Ike: [screams eternally]

>>93709047
>Siri becomes Ultimate Iron Man
They're doing a crossover with Apple?

>>93709932
Ike is the biggest dumbass and I'm surprised Disney hasn't hired a hitman to kill him

>>93709982
Hitman is DC.

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>>93709076
>and no one cares about the 70s Defenders character.
Tell that to those who loved her on Secret Avengers. (& fearless defenders to a extent)
Tell that to the Valkyrie focused series The Fearless which is universally agreed to be vastly better then Fear Itself which it followed.

>>93709177
>They want to pull the character back from some of the real-life darkness and imagery.
>with less focus on real guns and more emphasis on comic book-y tech.
You stupid fucking liberal bastards.

>>93709047
>They’re bringing back the Ultimate line for the teen heroes.

I guess they are planning to kill off the shitty legacies after all.

>>93709047
Relegating the ethnic placebo to a side line is absolutely a great idea but I wish it wasn't Ultimate.
I'd take Ultimatum & Ultimates 3 many times over before I would accept Riri.

>>93709849
>>93710090
Are you guys OP or are you easily this fooled

>>93709982
Ovens, cameras, bullets...Ike dodges em all.

>>93709076
>hey, people think captain america is a nazi now, what should we do?
>let's give the title to an ultra-liberal WE WUZ KANGZ!
>brilliant!

>>93709598
>what the fuck is the Vanishing Point exactly, anon?
Its just like ... a Spencer plot device. It could have been WeirdWorld (oh boy that was a failed plan). It's just Spencer's take on a "place out of time" a la Morrison.

>>93709585
There are no plans for a Spidey reboot like that. They can't get readers to pick up a teen Peter Parker since Bendis killed off Ultimate.

They wrote themselves into a corner because no one cares about kids books like Marvel Adventures or that "Spidey" book from last year.

There has been some discussion about an "Untold Tales of Spider-Man" relaunch with teen Peter and the high school cast but they don't want Busiek and there's no market for "prequel" books.

There's a thought (and I agree) that once the animated Miles movie comes out, they'll have their "Spider-Man for kids" so we want to keep him strong in the comics and cartoon merch. The Sony deal is kind of closed off but in terms of brand direction, we're all about synergy. The Gwen revival talk is dead now that the Emma Stone movies are done.

We're just kind of waiting to see Sony's next steps but there's kind of like a prep for nostalgia for the Raimi trajection in terms of MJ & college.

We're in the dark about a lot of the post Infinity War plans now but the overarching brand direction we were looking at was scaling it to revolve around Spider-Man even though Marvel can't make a solo Spidey film.

I think Tom Holland is going to be the new lynchpin for the MCU. They're not going to have a new "Iron Man" franchise but they've got Holland locked into a deal where he'll teaming up with characters in their own stuff.

>>93709023
It amazes me how fast Marvel was able to go downhill when it comes to Comics and Animated Movies.

They really did put all their eggs in the Live-Action Movie basket.

Reap what you sow, Marvel.

>>93710090
>Tell that to those who loved her on Secret Avengers. (& fearless defenders to a extent)
>Tell that to the Valkyrie focused series The Fearless which is universally agreed to be vastly better then Fear Itself which it followed.

lol who bought those?

>>93710245
What's going on with Kang anyway?

>>93709023
>Originally it was going to end with a quasi-Dark Reign scenario where Hydra is vanquished thanks to Kubik shenanigans and the World Security Council from the movies steps in to assume power over super heroes and everything has Civil War-era overtones with registrations, boot camps, the idea of an Inhuman ban.

And this would've been different from what's going on within Secret Empire HOW?!?

>>93709047
>Miles will become Ultimate Spider-Man again. Siri becomes Ultimate Iron Man. X-Men Blue becomes Ultimate X-Men. Champions becomes the Ultimates.
Is Ultimate just the code name or is the Ultimate universe coming back?

>>93709023
I'm just waiting until the comic book movie bubble bursts, so we can get over this fucking synergy, 'writing for the screenplay' or IP farm phase
Unfortunately, I don't see it happening for a while

>>93709107
Slott getting kicked off ASM is a surprise. Didn't think he would settle for a spin-off book.

>>93710339
Civil War = Civil War 2
Secret Invasion = Secret Empire
Dark Reign = WSC status quo

It's like pottery.

>>93710439
Superior Spider-Man = AXIS/Superior Iron Man = HydraCap = Infamous Iron Man

>>93710339
The original plan was to mirror the Civil War to secret Invasion to Dark Reign arc.

There's a reason this is called Secret Empire. The next step was "Nomad"'ing the entire Marvel lineup. There was a lot of editorial excitement about saying something about Trump's win and the baby boomer backlash.

No one was expecting the backlash to cap hydra and they probably could have kept the original plans intact but I think it was the sales/marketing push that buried it.

Not everyone is an idiot here; we are aware of how we price gouge comic shops. I think that was more the issue and once all the online fan political arguing started happening around the book, retailers just finally threw their hands cause it wasn't worth the outrage.

>>93709107
Why is AnnieMay being aged up so quickly?

>>93710541
What were the offices like when the "Break the Internet" variant covers were announced?

>>93709107
what are the chances of Slott jumping ship to DC?
or actually, are there any writers/artists who might do that?

>>93709107
>Slott is off Amazing Spider-Man.
HA! In my dreams.

>>93709177
>Al Ewing is on Spirits of Vengeance. Editorial likes him, but he can’t sell a book to save his life. They just want someone with a love of Marvel lore to write the magic/horror characters to have them prepped for future Movie Phase exploration with a Blade reboot. They know that corner of Marvel horror needs its own “Annihilation.”

I might actually pick up a Marvel book.

What's the status on Carnage? Power Pack? Rightclops?

>>93710828
>wanting more fanfic

>>93710408
just an imprint line. not a separate universe.

Jason Aaron is off doing his own thing. His Avengers BC thing is just a Morrison mini series idea he has.
Spencer "made his statement" now that Captain Sam won't be the status quo (that was the original plan while Steve goes back to the maskless "Super Soldier" identity).
I think everyone agrees its time to take teens away from Waid.

But the senior editors had big plans for that push and now there's nowhere else to put it. But we can't just get rid of it forever.

There was no plan to replace all the "white men" its just how the pieces fell into the place. Honestly, the Riri thing was the tipping point. It was Bendis' idea, no one in editorial had a big plan for it and it hurt the big post-Secret Wars push to make Tony Stark the franchise of the MU.

Since it's basically a book for his daughter, we're kind of stuck keeping her in print.

Edit wants to have a fresh voice on a Miles book in time for the Sony cartoon. David Walker apparently had a pitch that got people excited.

But there's just no way to take Miles AND Riri away from Bendis without burning a bridge with him forever.

>>93709107
>Spencer was earmarked for ‘Amazing Spider-Man” for awhile but he’s “earned it” after taking the heat for Secret Empire

That's a funny way of saying "failing upwards"

>>93709107
>The time-displaced X-Men are an albatross brought on by First Class synergy

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE O5 WEREN'T EVEN THE FOCUS OF FIRST CLASS

Seriously, how many of Bendis' runs as of late can be traced back to hamfisted movie synergy?

>>93710922
OP is lying, dude.

>>93710646
>>93710436
I'm not kidding: the Slott FNSM run is going to marketed like Joss Whedon on Astonishing. It's its "own thing" "unrestricted by the monthly continuity but still taking place in the MU" which is code for "if its late, its late."

It's going to be sold as "separate but equal" to Amazing. I have no idea how long it will last, but it's to assuage his ego apparently as he was interested in other books.

I don't think anybody wants anyone else to jump to DC. The real fear is Disney seeing that Warner had success moving the comics office to Burbank and lining everything up under one roof.

Moving Marvel Comics out of NYC and onto the Disney lots is a real possibility. A lot of us will get downsized or just not relocate if that happens.

>>93709023
>it's another /co/ industry fan fiction thread

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>>93711016
>assuage his ego apparently as he was interested in other books.
meant to say NOT interested

>>93711016
What's the news on well known writers returning for Legacy? Will it be the Image guys? Old man Claremont?

As nice as a Marvel horror Annihilation would be, I also don't trust modern Marvel to ever be able to replicate Annihilation. They couldn't even do that when they weren't sucking this badly.

>>93709076
>Tentatively planning to make her the new Valkyrie as the movie version is a blank slate and no one cares about the 70s Defenders character.
Fuck you if this ends up happening.

>>93710922

War Machine dying because the Civil War trailer made it look like he'd die.

Watch and wait for them to kill Vision next year, just because everyone expects him to die during Infinity War.

>>93711091
Given Ike's notorious penny-pinching, it blows my mind that they still pay Claremont to just sit around doing nothing.

>>93710613
not surprised. just our typical variant trick thats been meant with diminishing returns while contracts get lined up for new last-minute books to replace post SE plans.
shitty day for me because i had to handle a lot of the online damage control until like 8:30

>>93710580
I dunno, ask gerry conway. Marvel doesn't care; its a side book serving a niche

>>93709047
>Siri
Why couldn't that be her name instead of Riri? It doesn't sound like a slang for retard, it's something of a tech based joke, and Tony fucking with her going "Hey, Siri? No, not you." could have been entertaining.

>>93711016
Real talk: What makes Marvel think that Slott would jump ship to DC?

Rather, what makes Marvel think that DC would take him in?

>>93710262
>no one cares about kids books like Marvel Adventures
I cared, damn it.

>>93711091
lol. none. this is just re-shuffling teams around like how we did Marvel Now. Soule is taking a play out of Gillen's book and just taking a Star Wars paycheck while focusing on creator owned books.
The SW stuff is like a safe zone from most of the BS because they're always going to sell.

I don't know the last time I've seen Claremont's name in any marketing prep.

>>93709177
>Ewing can't sell a book.
Confirmed to be fake when you infuse your rumours with /co/ memes.

>>93711208
Riri sounds more like a nickname than an actual name. Like, her first name should be Rihanna and her nickname is Riri. Hell, from there you could even get a Siri nickname from people talking to Siri within Riri's earshot.

But "Riri" is not much of a birth name.

>>93711179
I'm sincerely sorry you had to do a lot of work for that, Whisperer. Hope it wasn't too much.

>>93711291
Show me ONE (1) Ewing series that sold and didn't bleed readers.

>>93711291

Show us a Ewing book that sells

>>93711016
I hope you don't lose your job, man

>>93710262
>There's a thought (and I agree) that once the animated Miles movie comes out, they'll have their "Spider-Man for kids" so we want to keep him strong in the comics and cartoon merch.

Major problem with that:

Miles has never really worked and comes off as a piece of Bendis fan fiction. Never mind that white readers are starting to resent the obvious efforts by Marvel editors at racially replacing heroes for no other reason than pushing diversity. Besides which, Peter Parker is Spider-Man in the same way that Clark Kent is Superman. I have doubts that the Sony animated movie is going to change that.

>>93709023
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>>93709177
I want to believe.

>>93711291
Has even one of his titles been a strong seller?

>>93711341
>>93711349
Show me a modern era writer that sells. All that sells now is Batman and Spider-Man.

>>93711399
Gillen?

>>93711399
Bendis.

>>93711285
You'd think Hickman would come back. It's not like his own stuff is making waves.

>>93711399
Johns.

>>93711399
Kirkman

>>93709160
What are the chances of Miles/Kamala?

>>93711463
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>>93711535
Are you fucking autistic? Neither of them are new.

>>93710828
Pls respond.

>>93710837
>His Avengers BC thing is just a Morrison mini series idea he has.
So basically the higher ups took a story that Aaron was working on the side and made it the centerpiece of their legacy thing. It's pointless.

>>93711399
>All that sells now is Batman and Superman.
FTFY

>>93711600
You never said "new", dumbass.
>Show me a modern era writer
They're all "modern era".

>>93711600

Are you fucking retarded? The post said "modern era writer". All of those are modern era writers. If you want to say new writer then say new writer, people can't read your retarded mind and figure out what you're trying to say.

>>93711016
Oh? You'd think that the Disney Marketing/pr team would be welcome.

And maybe worth joining too. Just saying.

>>93711625
>>93711638
Two decades old is not the modern era by any means. Nobody responds to late 90s or early 2000s as modern era.

Gonna need to take a break soon cause I haven't even been home since leaving work. Trying to rapid fire these

>>93710828
Carnage: big villain for the Venom plans
Power Pack: early early development for a freeform show, comic would follow obviously

>>93711250
cause thats just how the comic business works. he likes superheroes. i don't think anyone would turn down the opportunity to write superman or spiderman or batman or x men

>>93710922
>>93710959
This is how Marvel corporate works under Ike: we don't give the fox and sony movies anything but we will milk the cash in on comics.

After X3, the plan was to do a teen focused reboot, so we were going to cash in on that. Not literally the movie cast, but remove the baggage and make them streamlined and accessible to younger demos.

Claremont is like the "Spider Man wedding" of X Men. Its this unwieldy thing that none of the senior editors like that they want to rewind but because of the movie deal we can't make new IP.

X-Men has been a micromanaged mess since I started here. AVX was a sales team gimmick to replicate Civil War, which messed up Schism. Remender's plans got hijacked by the time displaced O5 which was a pretty shameless Bendis pitch to corporate. There's no central architect guiding the franchise, just big plans that get derailed by the next sales gimmick.

Then the fox talks started going really south and it wasn't just "don't give them new ideas" but actively scale it back.

Yes Ike and corporate really thought they could replace X Men with Inhumans. They don't actually care what it is, just as long as they own it.

The 05 was seen as a way to scale it back and might as well "House of M" the last vestige of Grant Morrison's run and just make Scott & Emma straight up super villains. But its been a mess cause no two writers are working together on the bigger picture and Gillen and Aaron and Remender all had different plans.

IVX was a mercy killing to a character that had been written into a corner

>>93711667
Bendis, Johns and Kirkman are all current writers, you mong.

>>93711623
Superman doesn't sell more than Spider-Man. Superman sells even less than tec.

>>93711251
So did I. And I even liked Spidey as well, except for the middle issues (#4-7) which featured some of the worst art in recent memory.

Oh well.

Nothing for me at Marvel anymore these days. And sadly it doesn't look like there is gonna be anything in the future either.

>>93709047
Fan fiction or not that is a good solution to the legacy cancer.

>>93711707
Superman has been outselling both for months now. Supes and Bats have been topping sales while Spider-man barely even comes close

>>93711172
>Vision dying

he's not gonna die, but Thanos is going to get that fucking stone and Vision will be comatose because of it

>>93711399
Hickman>>93

>>93711375

I want to believe, too. Any Avengers news? Anything on Pymtron, Wasp, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Vision, or Hercules?

>>93711489
Does Hickman even have anything in circulation right now

Manhattan Projects has gone tits up with an indefinite hiatus if not cancelled entirely

and I'm not aware of anything else he's been working on

>>93711683
Thanks for your time, anon. It has been a really interesting read.

>>93709107
Of MJ and Peter aren't together, then will Peter date anyone else we'll-known?

Also, does this mean Black Cat as evil Kingpin is coming to an end?

>>93711774

Do you mean in the MCU? He doesn't even have an Infinity Stone in the comics.

>>93711683
>Then the fox talks started going really south and it wasn't just "don't give them new ideas" but actively scale it back.
>Yes Ike and corporate really thought they could replace X Men with Inhumans. They don't actually care what it is, just as long as they own it.
Jesus Christ. Someone stop Ike already!!!

Thanks for your time btw....

>>93711705
Nobody asked for current writers. I asked for new writers.

>>93711858
I mean in MCU, Infinity War is gonna be Thanos getting off his ass and finally going for the stones

>>93711323
>>93711350
i'm writing this on my personal laptop out of the office. no one at marvel checks this place. and if they did, they just see 4chan as a bunch of trump trolls

>>93711660
I got a life in NYC already. But also Disney is not going to want to bring a lot of marvel people over except for the essential execs and managers. it would be a house cleaning and the disney teams -- who have shit locked down -- would just take on these roles and make a lot of jobs obsolete. marvel gets away with things b/c disney doesn't know or care about comics publishing.

>>93711489
Its not like he hasn't been invited. a lot of guys don't renew exclusivity once they have enough cache to have indies that sell (and get development deals) while playing the field between DC and Marvel. some guys are still fans for properties like james bond and would jump to follow that ellis run from last year
plus the healthcare package wasn't that amazing, but maybe once obamacare is repealed, writers won't gamble on being freelance lol

alright taking a break, will check back in later

>>93711762
Flash, Batman and Spider-Man outsell Superman. Spider-Man #27 outsold Superman #23 in May.

>>93711873
no you Alzheimer infected shit lord, you asked for modern writers, go look at your own post

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>>93710408
>Siri becomes Ultimate Iron Man

...Riri?

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>>93709177
>Ewing
>Editorial likes him

>>93710280
The worst part was Marvel pretty much had everything in the bag. People hated the New 52 and most liked the premise of Marvel NOW. But the job bed hard and now are at a very bad state creative wise.

>>93709160
>Squirrel Girl is wrapping up and North is moving her storylines over to NW where she’ll be the main character.
hopefully Henderson won't be joining North on that book if true

>>93709177
>Punisher War Machine is just one storyline involving Stark tech. They want to pull the character back from some of the real-life darkness and imagery; Nate Edmondson’s rep + Secret Empire has made him “ugly” (plus no one cares about Cloonan’s run). They want to scale him back to the Spider-Man/Defenders side of street-level, with less focus on real guns and more emphasis on comic book-y tech.
this sounds fun, which Punisher hasn't been in years

>>93711016
>Moving Marvel Comics out of NYC and onto the Disney lots is a real possibility. A lot of us will get downsized or just not relocate if that happens.
as much as that would suck for you guys, that kind of shakeup might be needed at this point

also someone needs to give Ike a lobotomy

>>93709107
I hope Spencer does a better job on ASM then his Cap run.

>>93711489
Maybe he doesn't want to work for Marvel anymore. And if he wanted to write LOSH after all, it might be in waiting.

>>93711683
>Claremont is like the "Spider Man wedding" of X Men. Its this unwieldy thing that none of the senior editors like that they want to rewind but because of the movie deal we can't make new IP.
This sounds unbelievable given that the X-Men would be nothing without Claremont. The original team had become so unpopular (by standards back then; it'd be one of the best selling comics today) it had literally gone into reruns.

>>93709160
>Squirrel Girl is wrapping up and North is moving her storylines over to NW where she’ll be the main character.
Christ

>>93712169
*they jobbed

Hate autocorrect

>>93711873
Not only do you love to lie, but you also love moving goalposts as well.

>>93709107
>Although it is a corporate synergy idea that has been floated; editorial has been able to argue that there’s no great way to do it … yet
Kek, the suits really want to deage Peter.

>>93710837
They should just burn that bridge with Bendis. Doubt he would do anything big at DC.

>>93710837
>Aaron retreading Morrison again
Does this ever not suck?

>>93709177
>Justin Jordan Moon Knight
hngggg even if it's fake

is Nova relaunching?

is Robbie Thompson going to get a big comic?

is Gwenpool safe forever?

>>93711285

Is Marvel aware of how badly received Inhumans vs X-men was?

>>93711900
Flash only outsold Superman due to the boost from The Button storyline that also ran through Batman.

Spider-Man got a big boost with the beginning of the Norman story in January, but it's dropping quicker than Superman and they're about to cross lines again.

12/16 Amazing Spider-Man#22 - 63,359 (+ 0.5%) (CC)
01/17 Amazing Spider-Man#23 - 73,773 (+16.4%) (CC)
02/17 Amazing Spider-Man#24- 61,953 (-16.0%) (CC)
03/17 Amazing Spider-Man#25- 113,934 (+83.9%) ($10!)
04/17 Amazing Spider-Man#26- 62,515 (-54.9%)
05/17 Amazing Spider-Man#27- 51,404 (-17.8%)

01/2017: Superman #14 -- 60,409 (+ 1.7%)
01/2017: Superman #15 -- 57,412 (- 5.0%)
02/2017: Superman #16 -- 56,105 (- 2.3%)
02/2017: Superman #17 -- 54,561 (- 2.8%)
03/2017: Superman #18 -- 57,879 (+ 6.1%)
03/2017: Superman #19 -- 56,439 (- 2.5%)
04/2017: Superman #20 -- 53,373 (- 5.4%)
04/2017: Superman #21 -- 51,373 (- 3.7%)
05/2017: Superman #22 -- 51,938 (+ 1.1%)
05/2017: Superman #23 -- 51,264 (- 1.3%)

Not a regular Marvel reader here...
How did they plan to say something about the Trump win and the babyboomer backlash?
And why?

Hey Mr. Leaker, any info on Moon Knight and Spirits of Vengeance? Artists to go alongside the writers, pitches, etc.

Also:
>Dr. Doom = Iron Man Villain

Wut?

>>93712513
nope. but the nova corps are going to be a big part of the comic. they want it to be like the GLC and have non-Rider options. They want an actual corps of marketable characters.

>>93712571
it was a necessary evil to address the elephant in the room. point blank: Grant morrison and joss whedon made Cyke a better stronger character and no one who has written him since has been able get to that level -- while also address the corporate driven event gimmicks that have needed him in the Magneto role.

>>93712401
bendis is a little different because he's so entrenched in the tenure of upper mgmt. its just that he would go to DC and take the standing Batman offer he has, its that he is outspoken and would not bite his tongue in regards to animosity. nothing that would sabotage but he would definitely talk about how the company was treating his adopted black daughter's favorite super hero.

Any plans to bring Cyke back or de-villain Emma?

Have they discussed getting rid of the O5?

>>93713318
Is anyone at Marvel even aware of the annoyances that Bendis actively creates or embodies? Do they just tolerate him at this point, because he's been given so many keys to the kingdom when it comes to what he's shit out?

who's going to get Champions?
is there any chance Generation X gets retooled? it's boring as fuck
where's the thunderbolts!
why are they pushing Loki as a villain again?

>>93713255
Fraction through Gillen's Cyke was best though

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Mfw I've been loyal only to DC since September 2011
Jesus christ Marvel this shit is makeing the 90s seem like a paradise

One last thing for now that I didn't mention: Reeder's Ultimates line-up is
>Miles, Kamala, Riri, Cho Hulk, and new Wasp led by America. I think the new Patriot from Falcon is also supposed to be a character.
Capt Marvel is, like, the Samuel L Jackson Nick Fury to them

Aaron is writing a "traditional" Avengers book with Cap, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Scott Lang Ant Man (comedic relief), Iron Fist ... and Dr Strange
His BC event is about establishing an "ancient evil" in the Marvel Universe and its some kind of retcon that connects Set to the Serpent Society who are the main villains. Hydra is going to be dormant as a threat for awhile. The bad "Nazi" PR is too raw.

>>93713046
It might be wise for Marvel to give the political stuff a rest.

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>>93709023
>The direction at the top corporate level is a mess of politics and in-fighting.

Politics? You are gonna have to elaborate mr. spy

>>93709107
Slott is one step off the door, by god, never though I'd live to see the day

>>93709047
If they won't do much more than guest appearance, they are basically getting relegated to die and be forgotten. Perhaps Khamala and Miles will keep getting books, but that's an official bye bye to everyone else.

>>93709076
yo as much as I want thor to get the hammer back, I don't wanna see valkyre dissappear. Also space thor would be a great opportunity to go full kirby

>Spencer was earmarked for ‘Amazing Spider-Man” blah synergy (...).

I'm seeing a pattern here

1. the suits have an idea and managed to make it past the editors
2. they give the job to bendis
3. bendis does what bendis does and you have an absolutely retarded but good looking not-synergy


>>93709137
>Because of the Fox issue, they still can’t create new ideas that could go toward the movies so its literally just nostalgia retreads.

Who is at fault here? the disney suits or the marvel suits? Marvel suits push both rights issues and synergy?

>Old Man Logan is sticking around
dangit

>>93709160
>Wilson is also taking over Captain Marvel.

Is Wilson read enough to include the rest of the Marvel family? Will my man Mar-Vell do a guest appearance?

>>93709177
>they’re relying on Bendis

they are finished

>No plans to take Duggan off Guardians. Gunn is moving full steam ahead with Adam Warlock weirdness and they want to make sure those characters/ideas are “accessible” but still fun.

YES

>Al Ewing is on Spirits of Vengeance. Editorial likes him, but he can’t sell a book to save his life. (...)

There's a shitload of unexplored stuff in myths and horror. Always wanted to see the company take on other pantheons and devils, explore the underworld

>>93712282
I'd actually describe Claremont as the opposite of the Spider-Man marriage.

Basically it is something Marvel and the writers want to recycle basically 24-7 and they shit on ANYONE who tries to break from the formula of repeating the same old shit. Because they know it will sell and more to the point, there are hundreds of writers out there would would kill to have their Claremont era fanfic made canon.

>>93712513
>is Gwenpool safe forever?
forgot to answer this: its around until it starts losing money. editorial likes north; when marvel refreshes Deadpool when the sequel comes out, they'll probably try to launch a second DP book with him while Duggan is allowed continue his story until he wants to wrap it up in the higher numbered book

Is marvel paying any attention to rebirth and what the over all thought about it in the offices

>>93713615
>company loyalty
It's that you're proud of it that really bums me out.

>>93713746
>and new Wasp led by America.
Good God, why?

Also I guess this means Ewing's Ultimates really is dead?
He getting a replacement?

>>93713841
>editorial likes north
Hastings writes Gwenpool

why does Jeff Loveness get no love

>>93714098
genuine brainfart. all of the comedy guys are enjoyable to work with.

>>93713746
On one hand, I really want the Serpent Society to be major players again.

On the other hand, this means they are going to kill Diamondback or irrevocably turn her evil again......

>>93714205
considering the last i remember seeing dimondback appear theyd turned her into a highly paid escort; i think she might be better off dead for awhile

>>93714175
I'm curious how did you guys react when marvel and sony made the deal for spider-man

>>93713746

Are Americop/Americops also off-limits too? I know The Crew did some bullshit where the Americops had been replaced by robot replacements.

The Americop concept had a lot of potential in terms of a vigilante type character, especially when you consider the Punisher/2099 connection and even the Americop team could have potential in a frat house sort of bone to conservative readers (just give them USAgent as a leader).

Has Spencer basically rendered the character/concept so radioactive we'll never see them again?

>>93714270
>no cutie Quasar ongoing

OP, will Mayday/MC2 ever come back?

>>93713159
Bumping my own ask like a shameless shamefag.

>>93714243
I kind of wish they would just put her and Cap back together.

I mean, for fuck's sake.... She fits most of the SJW bullshit demanded for women characters by Marvel (costume covers her entire body, Tumblr brand pink dyed hair, basically the closest thing Cap has to a Catwoman).

>>93714291
Don't give a fucking shit about Dykestar 2.0

Also, Mayday is persona non-grata: they are even timeskipping Renew Your Vows by eight years to make Annie (Slott's Donut Steal replacement for Mayday) a teenager.

>>93714269
it was inevitable. we're owned by disney. they have enough money that if they wanted to they *could* just make an offer that a studio couldn't refuse.

>>93714270
Spencer's stuff isn't off limits because of Spencer.
I don't think any of Spencer's Cap plots are going to keep going past Spencer's run. I don't think there are any plans for that new Falcon lol

Hydra is "off limits" because sales/marketing pissed people off. it was just tacky. Hydra is the gimmick that caused a lot of bad headlines. Someone will bring them back down the line but it's going to be awhile.

taking a break; back in a bit

>>93713777
That's sad as fuck.

>>93713746
No one is going to believe this, but I worked in Marvel editorial from 06-08. I have a quick way to prove if you're legit. What unusual sport did Bogart compete in when he was younger? If you had more than three conversations with the guy, you've definitely heard about it.

>>93710262
>and there's no market for "prequel" books.

really? The X-Men First Class prequel book was really fun

>once the animated Miles movie comes out

I'm not sure if kids will dig it. Cape animation seems to have more adult fans than child fans.

The kid market for animation and comics died with video games, really.

>at was scaling it to revolve around Spider-Man

You mean spidey will get the wolverine treatment?

>editorial excitement about saying something about Trump's win

Is editorial retarded?

>>93710837
>I think everyone agrees its time to take teens away from Waid.
kek

>no way to take Miles AND Riri away from Bendis without burning a bridge with him forever.

How about you just burn the bridge and call it a day? He's responsible for several fuck ups by now. No amount of casual sales should save him.

Besides it's fucking unproffesional. You are not here to write books for your kids. Any backlash would do more harm to him and DC than Marvel.

>Moving Marvel Comics out of NYC and onto the Disney lots

Growing pains. Getting out of new york would be good, I think. Gives people fresh air and new ideas instead of just the same New York types. Honestly, this seems to be inevitable. Marvel has cut off it's own legs.

>>93711683
>There's no central architect guiding the franchise, just big plans that get derailed by the next sales gimmick.
>Remender's plans got hijacked by the time displaced O5

;_;

How big is the lack of comunication between artists and artist and artist and editors?

>Yes Ike and corporate really thought they could replace X Men with Inhumans.

has anyone explained ike that cape comics sell on characters and not franchise / brand?

>Claremont is like the "Spider Man wedding" of X Men

wait, they want to retcon claremont? or they don't want him to work anymore?

trying to retcon claremont, now that's something i'd like to see. Specifically, see how how it'd crash and burn.

>IVX was a mercy killing

pls no more sad facts ;_;

>>93710837
>Edit wants to have a fresh voice on a Miles book in time for the Sony cartoon. David Walker apparently had a pitch that got people excited.
>But there's just no way to take Miles AND Riri away from Bendis without burning a bridge with him forever.
Just fucking do it you morons. Benids is a fucking cancer.

>>93714479
He's never going to answer you.
These shill threads are made every night just to troll Marvel fans and pretend that there's this "secret knowledge" reason for everyone to never bother reading a Marvel comic again.
It worked on me! I'm dumb enough to stop reading my favorite comics on a troll's say-so!

So I guess that means the only alternative will be reading DC comics like the adventures of secret pedo Batman, Mary Sueperman, or playing "spot the new token minority" in the JLA comics (that still haven't explained why their cyborg black man is only three-fifths of a person)
And since it's the weekend, shouldn't OP be posting another thread about how DC does racism right?

>>93714953
>Implying most of us haven't already quit marvel
you act as if most of us are on the fence instead completely off it. Marvel's been dead to me for a long time and I already tell people that there are only less than handful of books to read and not to bother. i rarely give dc recommendations because i don't like most of their books but there are definitely more gems at dc than marvel.

>>93714753
I think the "retcon claremont" thing may be just general narcicism: they want to purge Claremont's run from canon so the Bendises, the Slottes, the Soules, the hacks shitting up the place can have THEIR take on the X-Men be the only one that fucking matters and the one everyone else has to deal with as the definining run everything revolves around

>>93715011
I think the worst part about this is how fucking backwards it is. I wanted to be a comicbook writer before realizing I didn't have the dedication it took but during that time I wanted to improve upon claremont instead of overwriting it. Improving the changing universe of the x-men.

Academy X-men was the biggest disappointment because it was a move in the best direction before Marvel fucked it up.

>>93714753
>Claremont is like the "Spider Man wedding" of X Men

wait, they want to retcon Claremont? or they don't want him to work anymore?

trying to retcon claremont, now that's something i'd like to see. Specifically, see how how it'd crash and burn.

no what he's saying is that Claremont added a Soap Opera element that's paramount to the X-Men but that also makes them to dense for new readers to follow and shitty writers like Jeff Lemire to write, and editorial just wants to tell simple stories about the X-Men having a danger room session and beating up Magneto.

>>93714479
I gotta ask: what are their NDAs like?
I gotta imagine they threaten legal Armageddon in those things.
They haven't ever had any major spoiler leaks, it's incredible.

are they finally cancelling the awful America Chavez books?

>>93715011
That'd disagree with the whisperer's statements - editorials mediates with bendis and slott's whims, they don't follow their orders.

If the benis wanted to impose his X-Men canon (which i doubt because he only seems to care about shadowcat) and the editorial supported him, he would have done so a while ago.

The problem here seems to be that editorial is:

1. politically charged and ridden with sjws
2. forced to mediate diva writers past their prime with too many friends in corporate
3. forced to mediate corporate stupid profit gimmicks and synergy

>>93715095
Isn't "superhero soap opera" Marvel's gimmick? I can't think of one Marvel comic where internal drama isn't essential to the plotline

Either way, they've been pulling simple stuff since New X-Men. They just seem to forget about them. Lot's of teams could have spin off books if they actually had a plan for the franchise.

>>93715205
I don't think spoilers would be that hot to have people wanting to leak them. I think almost all comics leaks are controlled leaks in order to create hype.

Have you ever met Ike? How does he smells like?

>>93715205
Last year there was that CW2 spoiler at NeoGaf that turned out to be mostly accurate.

>>93713746
>the new ultimates lineup is Miles, Kamala, Riri, Cho Hulk, and new Wasp led by America
That sounds absolutely terrible.

>>93709107

>the fear is he would sign exclusive with DC if they took it away from him completely.

You almost got me.

DC would never want Slott.

>>93709177

Are they ever going to learn that most people who watch the shows and movies aren't going to pick up a comic?

>>93715489
Yep and only part changed was Shulkie death to outcry websites.

I swear to YHWH, Ike is the jewiest jew to ever live.

He's every bad stereotype about cheapness and money-grubbing.

>>93713746
>Set
Oh man, Atlantis Attacks II

>>93714953
>defending Marlel while accusing DC of tokenism

What DID he meme by this?

>>93715808
They might. Stick him on a Batman containment book or give him Legion of the Super-Heroes (Slott, better or worse, is a big name and they might sacrifice the LOSH to him to see if he can justify his ego). Or give him Flash or a GL book with Guy/John/Kyle in it or even JLI to write.

>>93716577
Slott is great doing team books, lighthearted humorous stories, sci-fi stuff and is a continuity fag

he'd be perfect for any of those franchises

holy shit this thread's still going, there's a lot of questions i'll answer in the morning if the thread is still up

in regards to the claremont thing it's like this:
x men is never going to be the franchise with a dozen books as long as fox has the adaptation rights. but they can't afford to not print xmen. the want to keep a few books going because they sell (uncanny, wolverine, deadpool definitely, maybe some kind of x force thing usually). they want to keep them marketable for the movie and tv show recognition.
Claremont's stuff is seen as too unwieldy, its weird and operatic and every character comes with a lot of baggage. Plus there's just too many characters and IP. He didn't just give Fox a franchise, he also gave them spin offs.Top brass HATES heavy continuity (they don't even know the word continuity). they don't pay attention to the issue-by-issue details but they would have HATED what Al Ewing did to their mobile game tie in book. Edit likes Ewing and tries to give him little corners but they lose money.

honestly i just don't think they get the x franchise. they don't understand why it can't just be the "teen superhero team."

if marvel at the top had their way, x men would be like how they were in stan lee's day. that team that's there in the group picture, but not taking over half of the group picture.

it's not a deliberate plan to kill the x-men but they're not reacting to the sales drop with the same concern that they have for spider man and iron man. they just see it as a fanbase they're stuck with so might as well sell product to them

ressurxion was a stop-gap. literally the publishing budget was re allocated because they weren't spending so much on inhumans anymore. its not going to last, it was just a fresh coat of paint

gen x, cable, jean grey, iceman and weapon x were only ever mapped out for 12 issues.
after that its back to just uncanny, wolverine and DP with New Mutants, Mystique, and Legion getting another spin

>>93716233
I imagine it was just him pointing out to all the DC shills that DC panders to a bigot's mindset in a relatively overt way.
Have you happened to notice that their "good" black characters go out of their way to not identify with their own race?

>>93716706
i mean 'there are too many x-men' is a legitimate criticism, especially when half of the team are their villains now. It took Danger HOW long to be an x-man?

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>>93709023
So Marvel is being run by the Penguin.

What does Marvel want from Peter Parker? What's their direction for him?

I can't never undstand if they want him a young him bachelor. A super duper scientist.

And are there any plans for Aunt Maybtondo anything? They went through a lot to bring her back and she seems like she doesn't exist.

>>93709023
>>93709023
>it's a "my dad work at Marvel episode"

kys. Let me know when your movies will doing OK.

>>93709023
>>93709076
How salty is Spencer that Sam Wilson as Captain America failed?

>>93709047
>Hey guys I know we treated the Ultimate line and its fans like absolute fucking trash by acting as if the entire universe and its characters were entirely expendable fodder we could kill and main at will just to see what people might tolerate in 616 or to grab headlines but we're bringing it back after destroying it!......as a title for the 'inheritors' of our big character's solo titles


Fuck off Marvel you cunts.

>>93709023
Do you know anything about those teaser events that were in Civil War 2?

>>93716955
Well it's Ike so yeah.

>>93714953
Hey CBR sheep. How your wife doing after I fucked her?

>>93716706
I honestly don't get how the brass can be this idiotic.

Even if I knew little about the X-Men I'd know that a franchise that big and old would have both:

a: tried and true formulas the fans expect to see
b: things the fans never got to see that could be explored
c: the posibility of exploring new frontiers playing around the basic themes of the franchise

On top of basic teams you'd have dozens of potential spaces for innovation just picking up the slack of previous ideas, and that's not even factoring new ideas into the mix.

Instead they want to simplify the franchise to things they never were, just to spite a company that has a license with 40 years worth of content.

Did it ever occur to them that with such IP, by the time Fox runs out of IP adapt cape movies would be retro?

> have HATED what Al Ewing did to their mobile game tie in book.
what book?

>>93717245
Because they don't see things like the readers or creators do. To the top brass it's all numbers and market research. They view comic book readers the same as the general public. That's what they will never understand.

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>>93717245
Contest of Champions.

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>>93717280
But it's retarded. You are the top brass! You should point people at the direciton the company should go and let them sort out of the details. It 'swhat Goodman did for 50+ years! The only thing this requires is a basic knowledge of the market you are working in. Even innovation is optional!

>>93717175
She contracted something. You should probably get yourself checked.

>>93717364
Because these people only care about profits and the market. Again, they don't think how we do. This is almost every sort of corporate business. It's a mix of ego and being out of touch. The ol' "I'M IN CHARGE SO WHAT I SAY MAKES SENSE! LOOK MARKET RESEARCH PROVES ME RIGHT!"

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>>93709047
>Champions becomes the Ultimates

>>93716706
The only question I want you to try to answer is >>93714479

>>93715954
Well that and also changing Homer's name to Ulysses.

But yeah, even though they walked back on She-Hulk's death you could really see that she was supposed to die because she didn't do shit after getting revived. We never even got a follow up about her last words to Carol before going into a coma!

>>93711045
That particular Marvel "Insider" has a really distinctive writing style. So far I'm not quite seeing it in OP.

>>93710262
I bought Weird World and Black Knight. I really dug the concept.

>>93713552
This. Ruthless but heroic. Kind of like Wolverine back in the day before he became a headmaster.

>>93710245
I don't think he's a Kang. He's more of "wypipo are devil, reparations for slavery when" kind of guy.

>>93715336
I think Marvel legitimately forgot how to make high concept books.

Do something like
>Exiles: Dimension-hopping team of alternate heroes, they die a lot
>X-Force: Cable and This Week's Gang of Misfits save the world while growling a lot. There's a bit more violence than your usual X-fare.
>X-Factor: A government-controlled team of X-Men that's part PR, part black ops.

Or something. They unnecessarily convolute everything and there's far too much interpersonal conflict among the team members.

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>>93716706

>if marvel at the top had their way, x men would be like how they were in stan lee's day.

garbage?

give it to ewing, it was a hit under claremont bc a dude ran wild on a corner of the universe. look at a remender x-force taking old shit and doing a new spin on it

>>93718348
An X-Men Heroes Return-esque relaunch under Ewing would literally save Marvel, but they're too busy being dicks to Fox to consider it.

Mr. Bumpo

>>93718348
>garbage?

That sounds likely considering Ike wants to make sure Fox doesn't profit from X-Men.

>>93709076
>They got lucky with Greg Pak and Hulk. It leads into a Planet Hulk revival pretty seamlessly.
Got lucky? It is a good fucking book.

Stay alive!

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>>93709023
Will Leah Williams be writing any more Marvel comics?

Does Marvel actually realize how bad books like America are? Do they get that the social justice Tumblr audience they keep going after just plain doesn't read comics and only likes posting funny or quirky images online? Like, did Kate Leth's "I'm a big fan of Hellcat, I don't read Hellcat" not sink in at all? And does Marvel understand that they may have burned too many bridges at this point? I know I'm not going to read their shit again no matter what they do because I simply don't trust them to know what a good story is anymore. Gay Iceman, Champions, Thor being unworthy because a guy said a mean thing to him, Tony trusting Riri with his life's work after knowing her for about six minutes, being fucking surprised at the backlash to HydraCap, a science team called G.I.R.L., fucking America...no, I'm not going back. Their best, highest paid talent thought all that was okay, and that is too much.

>All these behind the scenes ''''''''leaks''''''''
>Nothing about Steve Rogers or the conclusion of SE

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>>93709107
>the fear is he would sign exclusive with DC if they took it away from him completely.
>Slott ruins a DC hero and damages the community just being there.
wouldn't Marvel want that?

>>93720367
>Nothing about Steve Rogers or the conclusion of SE

>>93709076
>Waid is a stop-gap on Cap to bridge the Legacy launch, then takes over Iron Man with 600 (Doom will be the main villain). Coates is taking over Cap with 700. They want him on the book to endorse the image rehabilitation.

>>93711016
>Moving Marvel Comics out of NYC and onto the Disney lots is a real possibility. A lot of us will get downsized or just not relocate if that happens.

That would be the final death knell for Marvel.

>>93719554
I want to lick her chest.

>>93720339
>Does Marvel actually realize how bad books like America are?
I follow that Diversity and Comics youtuber who claims to have a few insider connections at Marvel. According to him, Marvel has no idea they're doing anything wrong and are really confused by the current backlash.

I'm not sure that's true. I feel like Brevoort has his ear to the ground on twitter, and is just using his tried and true methodology that "anger sells comics."

>>93709023
So how has Marvel been reacting to DC Rebirth right now, I'm sure it took them completely off-guard. Are there any other writers that you think might go to DC starting next year?

Nice source

>>93721054
There are no current Marvel writers that I want moving to DC. Hickman would be nice, and he's riding solo these days.

There are several artists I want at DC though, if Bendis would get his fat, greasy fucking claws off them, that is.

>>93721090
>Hickman would be nice, and he's riding solo these days.

He said awhile ago that LoSH would guarantee he work for DC. Apparently that's his favorite property.

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>>93721117
I wish his tweet was more than him having fun.

>>93721090
Not even Ewing or Hastings?

>>93721153
Lately a segment of /co/ has turned against Ewing.

>>93720339
>>93721038
You've got to remember that most of these are third-string titles being made by newcomers and nobodies. They're not making much money but they're not costing much money either, and they play very nicely from a marketing standpoint. Sure, America might be a book about a d-list character written by a literal who? author in reality, but that is translated into "acclaimed queer YA author headlines new comic featuring the first lesbian Latina superhero!" They're basically getting a bargain on marketing for books that realistically wouldn't last long anyways, and good press looks really good to shareholders and suits.

>>93715011
This makes sense.

>>93721358
Except none of that "good press" turns into sales or new readers. All you have is the same thing that happened to Hellcat. "I love Hellcat, I don't read Hellcat." What is the point of putting out books that nobody reads, which costs you more money to produce than you make from it, which gets you good press for an audience which, again, doesn't actually engage with your product?

>>93721501
They get a small spike in sales temporarily and have the benefit of selling decently with trades for a short bit with the young adult crowd. It's all short term gain. Which makes me think, just fucking release these types of books as trades instead of flooding your main product line.

>>93721585
That's what I continue to not understand. They have to know that shit books have driven away longtime readers, but they're okay with that so long as they get a "small spike in sales." Like, is that the dumbest business decision you've ever heard? Lets burn all of our bridges so that we can possibly get a very small minority of people!

And where the fuck is Disney in all this? I'm sure Disney doesn't care, but wouldn't they like more profit as opposed to little loss?

>>93721702
It's all Axel Alonso, this is how he runs shit. He's spent his tenure as EiC mainly pushing variant covers and relaunch after relaunch. Dude is an awful businessman. It's clear that he's obsessed with short term sales boosts and does not think in the long term.

As for Disney, the comics is such a small division that it doesn't matter as long as they aren't operating at a loss. Even then, it might not be a big deal. As far as Disney is concerned, the comics division is a cheap as fuck IP farm.

>>93721775
But that's what I'm saying. If I were running a large corporation and I saw a division operating at a loss, I'd ask why they were. Because I would prefer if none of my divisions were operating at a loss. Especially if you look at your biggest competitor in that division and see them flourishing. Sure, it might not be the biggest deal, but fuck you, I'm Disney, I want all my divisions to crush the competition. If I've got something run by a known idiot, I'd fix that shit.

Like, how is it that thousands of people on a Tiwanese picture scroll message board can see the obviousness of this business decision but corporate Disney can't seem to give even half a legitimate fuck?

>>93721851
How do we know Marvel is running on a loss?

And if they are, wouldn't you assume they're meant to be a loss leader? When each of their movies make a billion dollars, spending, say $100 million on an IP mill that keeps throwing ideas at the wall to get the next billion dollar movie seems more than worth it.

>>93721851
You have to understand, the comics division is fucking small compared to everything else Disney has. Like REALLY fucking small. The only reason they acquired Marvel was for the IP's that were a success thanks to the movies. As long as the films and merch sales are doing fine, the comics can do fuck all for all they care.

Business is fucking strange.

>>93721893
But Marvel doesn't need new stories if all they care about are the movies. They have 50 years of stories they can milk, and enough characters that they can just make shit up if they run out of those stories. Hell, Civil War was basically a new story, why not just keep doing that? So if the new stories suck, make no money and Disney already has what they need from Marvel, why not just shut it down?

>>93721894
According to Rick the Leech they do know cause Feige tells them every time and reason why Legacy was brought up, also reason why If rumor is true, Wanda on Avengers. She sells merch to casuals.

>>93713615
>Mfw I've been loyal only to DC since September 2011

Why would you choose the absolute worst era of DC to start being loyal to them?

You have no business criticizing 90s Marvel.

>>93722052
New 52 is still way above 90s Marvel, which is still leagues better than SJW Tumblr Marvel. New 52 gave us Dial H, All Star Section Eight, Superbro, Forever Evil and a damn solid run on Aquaman. What has Marvel produced in the last 10 years which compare to that? Vision? Robbie Reyes? Anything else?

>>93721973
This is why you don't run a billion dollar company.

You always need new stories. And for something like Marvel, new characters. Think about why they're pushing Captain Marvel so hard. Think about why they do shows for B-list characters.

Imagine where Marvel Studios would be right now if they said "Let's not bother with Iron Man, he hasn't been popular in decades, and was never a major character to begin with".

$100 million is a drop in a bucket for Disney. They'd do better putting out several dozen poorly selling comics and getting one or two Kamala Khans out of it then by putting out 10 blockbuster comics.

So any proof that any of this is true and not more silly fan fiction?

WHERE ARE YOU?!

Is he coming back?

Come back you leaker and answer my questions!!!11!!!1111oneelevenone!

>>93718358
The neat part about this is that Fox has no stake in whether people read X-Men comics or buy merch.

At least 3 new X-Movies coming over the next 2 years and probably without black leather too!

>>93709932
Fox didn't have Ghost Rider. Sony/Columbia did.

Probably pointless to ask this in a leak fanfic thread, but are any new high-profile artists coming on in the future?

>>93722107
>What has Marvel produced in the last 10 years which compare to that? Vision? Robbie Reyes? Anything else?
Nextwave, Guardians of the Galaxy, Heroes For Hire 2010. You should have gone with "since 2010".

>>93722052
>Why would you choose the absolute worst era of DC to start being loyal to them?
The 00s sucked abolute ass, on the same level at least.

>>93723709
Yeah, wasn't until ANAD that 90% of books went to shit.

>>93720339
>Does Marvel actually realize how bad books like America are?
This I gotta know...

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>>93719554
Tell me she's a great writer and not just my next mommy

>>93723709
Okay, since 2010 what has Marvel produced? Hell, even in the 2000s I'd put Infinite Crisis, 52, Final Crisis, Blackest Night, Brightest Day and even Flashpoint over anything Marvel did. And that's just the events! Though I will admit that Annihilation was top quality and X-Men, while up and down, was really up when it was up.

>>93723901
Like, if they fully believed in all this social justice wank, that'd be one thing. But if its just a business strategy they're trying, can't someone just knock on their doors and say hey, maybe this isn't working all that well.

>>93723972
Remender UXF, Hickman's F4 and Avengers, Slott's Shulkie and MA and early Spidey(after superior went to shit), Carey's XML, Spurrier on Legion, KY XF. Could name more.

Yeah most Marvel events have sucked.

>>93723972
There was also Justice League Generation Lost. Showcased the Justice League International team we all know and love.

>>93723972
Blackest Night was alright for me because I was new to DC, Brightest Day was some boring overstretched shit, ther was War of the Laterns (Rings?) which was pretty cool.

And then there were atrocities like Identity Crisis. For all the current Marvel shit, at least their lasting damage could be smaller (and of course, smaller than Civil War). That Amazons Attack thingy /co/ brings up was probably back then too, no? And thn ther's Superman: Grounded and (that's more divisive) morrison on Batman.

I'd agree with you on the 00s Cosmic Marvel in general, and X-Men nearing 2010 was top tier as far as I'm concerned.

>>93723972
btw
>>93724067
isn't the guy you were asking, I'd never point anything from hickman as decent, or Superior Spider-Man as having ever been good.

If Spider Island came after 2010, though, I'm okay with that, as well as World War Hulks and Chaos War.

>>93724067
Ah, forgot about Hickman's FF and Legion. Two good books.

You know, this thread is full of Marvel hate, but I don't want to hate Marvel. I love their characters. I simply don't recognize them anymore, or any new characters as ones that would come from that world. I don't mind change, I like legacy characters and think things like Peter owning his own company are good ideas. But Marvel is just executing them all so badly. So its not really hate. Its concern.

>>93724190
Superior got extended and obvious it did. Slott is a good writer, when he has a good editor. Lowe sucks and is like Alonso chasing $

>>93724318
Yes, apparently it was supposed to last half as long as it did, but they kept milking it... and then did it with half their other characters. That does not excuse the final product, though.

>>93724125
And by "showcase" you mean rape them mercilessly to punish fans who liked Justice League International and shitted all over the characters?

>>93724318
No it didn't.

The only interference was the fact that they had to do a half-assed Superior Venom storyline when Slott first pitched Spiderverse and told point blank, they would not greenlight it unless Peter was brought back (because they were worried that using Otto as the main character would taint such a major crossover)

>>93724594
Yeah it did. Slott said in interview IIRC. By 6-8 issues. Reading the book tells you that much. Since only the first and last issues actually mattered.

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>>93709047
>It’s not going to be about “new number 1s” but milestone 500, 600, 800 issues.
Numbers don't work that way: they can shit out a new number 001 issue every arc if they want. Hell, with annuals and one-shots they can literally shit one out EVERY SINGLE ISSUE if they want.

Whereas to hit a milestone they'd have to actually wait 50 - 100 issues between sales boots ( After the FIRST, I mean, since we all know they'll magically revert to "legacy" numbering to score that first "milestone" just like they did with image related ).

So what you're going to see is a hybrid where they switch to "legacy" numbers JUST in time to score those speculator dollars followed by a revert to Yet Another Renumbering because We Seasons Nao!

In other words: business as usual at the House of Rehashed Ideas.

>>93724566
He means they started off dark then made them great, you casualfag

>>93716794
>Cyborg's comic had him beating up racist cops and has a character called Black Narciss
Nice job proving you don't read comics faggot

>>93717373
Considering her status as the town bicycle I don't think it was me. The slut probably picked it up from a stray dog.

>>93724143
One More Day ruined Marvel way more than ID Crisis ruined DC, although it did fucking hurt.

>>93723919
>>93719554

HNNNG!

>>93721038
>I feel like Brevoort has his ear to the ground on twitter, and is just using his tried and true methodology that "anger sells comics."

He might not be strictly wrong with America. Her current comic is awful, yes, but at the end of the day she's a pretty young latina lesbian with super strength and teleportation powers. If they can turn her into a recognizable character then they can cancel her awful ongoing, reboot her solo to clean up the character, and then easily have her tag along with teams for transportation (and without the usual "get the teleporter out of here!" problems), lesbian romances storylines, and campbelland Hughes waifubait variant covers. And we all know those waifubait covers are the backbone of marvel's strategy right now.

>>93725228
Yeah America under Gillen was a fantastic character. Ewing as well. Solo sucks though.

>>93721038
>I'm not sure that's true. I feel like Brevoort has his ear to the ground on twitter, and is just using his tried and true methodology that "anger sells comics."

Breevoort is an Uncle Tom Neckbeard who just says yes to anything to keep his job & delights in shitting on the readers any chance he gets.

>>93725337
>America under Gillen was a fantastic character
She was obnoxious as fuck. "You're not that straight"
Like, fuck off, bitch.

>>93710262
What if all of these ventures don't work, and Marvel loses sales still? Just as much as they did now?

>>93725480
What he did to Noh-Varr is worse. God damn did he throw out all his characterization just to write a brainless bohunk who was quirky and in love with 60's music.

>>93709023

If this is true, I do feel bad for editorial. I know how shitty it is when you're in the middle between the people producing content (writers, artists) and the higher ups who make decisions based on poorly-thought out whims.

You're stuck trying to sell horrible ideas to the actual creative people and defending the actions of said creatives to bosses who want it their way.

>>93713526
>where's the thunderbolts!
its coming. its one of the big plans for phase 4 but execs feel like they got beaten to the punch by suicide squad and the failure to re establish the brand with the last series was one of the tipping points on corporate demanding a wrap up of this captain america run

>>93714291
lol no. defalco did himself no favors by complaining about slott's usage in spider verse. that secret wars mini was an appeasement. plus the spider verse gravy train has run out (however brief it was). spider gwen's on her way out and she'll be the only one that gets revived with occasional guest spots.

all the alt spider characters are getting phased out because it dilutes the focus on streamlined Peter in NYC dealing with low level tech villains.

there is some early branding research happening for the second spider woman as arachne alongside silver sable, black cat, and jessica drew. so it sounds like sony is going full steam ahead with a "birds of prey" like idea for the spider women

>>93726098
Any info on the horror stuff besides Ewing on SoV and the Luther Strode guy on MK? Why's Doom back to being a villain? What's going on with Strange? Who's taking over that?

>>93726098
>all the alt spider characters are getting phased out because it dilutes the focus on streamlined Peter in NYC dealing with low level tech villains.

What does that mean for Scarlet Spider? Part of me feels like it's been given to PAD as a gesture of good faith so he has something to do.

>>93726147
that *is* the extent of the horror stuff.

mk's not really horror but its seen as the best chance to replicate "vision" in terms of critical acclaim. we usually have to have one thing like that to get on year-end lists

doom's a villain again cause "the audience would be confused" trying to sell doom as iron man

Hopeless is on strange for the forseeable future as far as i know. but aaron is still guiding his direction with his avengers run

>>93726203
its just a side run. the clone saga/scarlet spider will always have some cache.

maximum carnage 2 is earmarked for the 25th anniversary of the original next year but the office might pull the trigger early if the venom sales for the second half of the year drop

>>93726267
>that *is* the extent of the horror stuff.
Eh, I guess one good Ewing book is better than many crappy books.

>mk's not really horror but its seen as the best chance to replicate "vision" in terms of critical acclaim. we usually have to have one thing like that to get on year-end lists
This sounds good at least.

>doom's a villain again cause "the audience would be confused" trying to sell doom as iron man

>sells as much as Ree-Ree
>gets 0 promossion while Ree-Ree gets tons

Jesus fuck Marvel. At least give the guy an ongoing. Iron Man villain after becoming God? Jesus fuck, talk about a downgrade.

>Hopeless is on strange for the forseeable future as far as i know.
Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>but aaron is still guiding his direction with his avengers run
Ugh.

Thanks for the info Based Leak-Poster!

>>93726267
To ask >>93720339 question: Does Marvel actually realize how bad books like America are?

>>93726365
Fuck off, samefag. Go drink bleach. Your fanfiction is fucking shit.

>>93726348
Is PAD going to be on the title for the foreseeable future or does he have something else lined up?

>>93724989
Probably the hottest employee that Marvel has ever had.

>>93726348
Is it true that the comic writers don't get to see MCU films early (or look at the scripts before production)?

>>93726348
If disney were to move everything under one roof do you think it would help or make things worst?

>>93726531
They did before Feige left, back when the MCC had an impact on movies. Why Rhodes died, there version of CA:CW he died.

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>>93726398
Welcome to /co/, where every positive thing you say makes you a shill, and every conversation makes you a samefag. Jesus fuck, will summer ever end?

>>93726098
>there is some early branding research happening for the second spider woman as arachne alongside silver sable, black cat, and jessica drew.

Does this mean an end to Black Cat as a villain and Julia Carpenter as the new Madam Web? These are things /co/ can support.

>>93726408
eh i'm sure he'll get some mini series or two in one shots. he usually gets a gig cause he had a rough couple of years health wise but in general we're hiring for younger and cheaper

>>93719554
>>93723919
Jesus Christ I need more

>>93726098
We may lose slotts but now spider-man as a franchise is gonna ge micromanaged too

tsk.

>so it sounds like sony is going full steam ahead with a "birds of prey" like idea for the spider women

Fox is attempting to innovate? That's nice. It's also nice to hear that Marvel isn't gonna get autistic about it. Let's hope it doesn't tank

>>93726267
Do people think of Marvel magic as a thing? I remember the 2010 Marvel Arcana push because someone got pissed that magic got reduced to finger laserbeams.

Will they try to make it a thing again, perhaps mix it with horror? or they've forgotten about it entirely?

>>93713746
>Aaron is writing a "traditional" Avengers book with Cap, Scarlet Witch, Vision

Is there anyone left at Marvel who likes Wanda or Vision? It feels like despite the MCU, we won't see them back together at least until Brevoort goes.

>>93726531
used to. but sales/marketing still gets early broad strokes like "plan for X" "find classic covers with X for merch" "start sending out bios and reference images for X to so and so" (this also applies to the sony spider man stuff)

we're just relying on hollywood trades for fox news now

>>93726578
i mean... i can't argue with the business sense of it and they are the ones who sign the paychecks. their marketing team is like an army and they have resources we'll never get

we are aware of what dc is doing. we wish we could make a hit video game tie in book because its easy money. our animation division has no money. we get pitches from writers who would love to write disney brands but we can't get access to it

>>93726583
https://youtu.be/Y4z5ogx3g5g

>>93726799
Speaking of video games i know this is a long shot but have you heard anything about the new spidey game and how are the expectation for mvci i assume there pretty low right about now

>>93726799
>we get pitches from writers who would love to write disney brands but we can't get access to it


What do you mean you have no money? Disney doesn't approve bigger budgets? Why?

I mean, it's logical to assume that if disney let's you be relatively independent you'd also manage your own bank, but I wouldn't think it'd go as far as denying budgets for bigger projects

>>93726799
>we're just relying on hollywood trades for fox news now
So does Fox ask for stuff (info on certain characters, reference images) or does Marvel send them what they think they need?

>>93709047
>Hi Rich!

>implying you aren't Rich Johnston trying to give credence to your blatant lies

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>>93709177
>Rosenberg is moving over to one main Inhumans book
>putting the lowest selling of the three writers as the main writer
I doubt that anon

>>93717858
I don't think he's answered it.

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>>93726365
>I guess one good Ewing book is better than many crappy books.

That dopey downs syndrome retard need to go for good.

>>93727000
It probably because hes the cheapest. I mean at this point i doubt marvel like wasting more money on the inhumans comics than they have too.

>>93726589
>we're hiring for younger and cheaper
That explains a LOT.

>>93709137
>They burned out Deadpool fans with the price gouging, so no plans for spin-off series, but there will always be mini-series on the side to line out trades.

That's a shame. I'm actually buying all three Deadpool ongoings, though I have zero interest in meaningless mini-series. At least as far as my buying habits go, this is a loss.

>>93727035
>cheaper than Al nine books at once Ewing
>cheaper than a first time comic writer
Unlikely

>>93726799
>we get pitches from writers who would love to write disney brands but we can't get access to it

so you get pitches from morons who didn't do their research and you think this is a good thing?

how many minutes would you say you've been working in publishing?

>>93726930
he already answered that

>>93726799
>but sales/marketing still gets early broad strokes like "plan for X" "find classic covers with X for merch" "start sending out bios and reference images for X to so and so" (this also applies to the sony spider man stuff)

so... their job

you're saying they do their job

>we're just relying on hollywood trades for fox news now

which is how you know they're not planning anything serious to do with Marvel properties

all this shit about a New Mutants movie is just too short of a timetable to be true; Dark Phoenix is too good to be true - FOX would never pay JLaw's A-list rate, they only used her the last two times because they could pay peanuts

they'll make a couple tv shows and probably give up - at which point the X-Men rights, long over their initial window, will revert automatically

>>93726581
MCC got shitcanned for trying to get their shitty scripts read by actual movie people all the time

>>93726531
no sane studio would hand a bunch of fucking amateurs the script and say hey guys ya'll know how NDAs work right good because here's a PDF that represents years of work and hundreds of millions of dolla investment and ya'll surely can be trusted with it because hey the publisher issues ya'll with secure devices to read this shit on and hey ya'll got no problems with money or prestige or nothing that might cause ya'll to leak it right cool welp here it am

jesus, anon, there's really no limit to your stupidity, is there?

the only reason the MCC ever got anything is that they personally knew and were personally vouched for by Quesada, back when the studio was starting up, and even then I'd be extremely surprised if they ever saw scripts

>>93724913
Gonna have to disagree. And at least it spawned good stories in Brand New Day, besides OMD was just another part in a huge shitfest of a run.

>>93725228
>And we all know those waifubait covers are the backbone of marvel's strategy right now.
What? They can't even have the hottest characters dress sexy anymore.

>>93727000
>>93727035

>Marvel rewarding failure.

This has been happening for so long, it is alarmingly plausible.

>>93727182
>at least it spawned good stories in Brand New Day
None of the stories in Brand New Day and onward required Pete to be single. None of them. None of Peter's girlfriends since he became single added anything to the overall experience. None of them were likable. I don't care who your waifu is.

>>93727182
>They can't even have the hottest characters dress sexy anymore.

Is that coming from Alonso, and how are they forcing artists to comply with it, rather than just jump to DC?

>>93727182
>And at least it spawned good stories in Brand New Day
>good
>Brand New Day

I would say maybe 10% of it was good or okay at best.

>>93709023
Lol mainstream comics are so epic'lly devoid of ideas, inspiration and talent that it's fucking laughable

>>93711774
>>93711858
>>93711893

While that is good news if true, it would not be a surprise if he gets killed in the comics next year just because people expected him to die in the movie.

>>93727285
>Is that coming from Alonso
It's most likely coming from The Mouse himself. Disney was also responsible for dictating that Princess Leia never be depicted in her slave outfit ever again.

>>93727274
No waifus, there. And yes, it could'v been done with average Pete. But it didn't shit on completely/kill off characters the way Identity Crisis or Final Crisis did (that's the one where Max Lord goes evil and kills Blue Beetle, right?).

>>93727306
That story with Liz's brother (don't know his name in english) and New Ways to Die were alright for me, off the top of my mind. I don't recall if that Hammerhad story was still in Brand New Day. I liked the early arc about Jonah as a mayor, though that was later I think.

>>93727274
It's telling that the best "new spider-GF" is Anna Maria and she didn't actually date Peter.

>>93727500
>Identity Crisis or Final Crisis did (that's the one where Max Lord goes evil and kills Blue Beetle, right?).
Identity Crisis, yeah.

I was never ok with that sudden change, but since then Marvel has done equal, if not worse things with their other events. At this point, Identity Crisis feels like a soft caress in comparison to all of Marvel's slaps to the face.

>>93711172
You know, I wonder if it wasn't because Bendis saw the trailer but because he heard from someone on the inside that a character would die in Civil War.

Remember how it was claimed in the news that there were multiple death scenes filmed for Civil War? And how it turned out no major character really died in Civil War unless you think Crossbones is a major character. Given the fight between Feige and Ike do you think maybe Feige or Marvel Studios deliberately set the multiple death rumors out there to make the Entertainment division take the bait?

>>93727600
That was Infinite Crisis. Identity Crisis was the one where Sue Dibney got raped by Dr. Light and then was later killed by an insane Jean Loring.

>>93727500
How did Final Crisis shit on anyone? It's about heroes being heroes in the most dire of straights. At worst you could say it shafted Wonder Woman by making her get mind controlled pretty early in the story.
And no, neither of those were the one where Ted was killed, that was Infinite Crisis, so I'm just gonna take it that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about since you're defending BND and shitting on FC.

>>93727623
Well then it was done masterfully.

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>>93709137
>Because of the Fox issue, they still can’t create new ideas that could go toward the movies so its literally just nostalgia retreads.

So FOX can pick up any storylines freely, even the most recent ones? Huh.

>>93726799
Marvel has a fuckton of IP, Disney has a fuckton of animators. Seems like something could be worked out.

>>93727847
Based on things said in here and in news articles, it wouldn't surprise me if Ike probably wants to keep them separate to keep costs on Marvel animation down.

>>93727755
That's always been part of their rights contract. Isn't it wonderful?

>>93726799
>we get pitches from writers who would love to write disney brands
Like Mickey Mouse and all those guys? Or am I misinterpriting it?

>>93727692
I got Final Crisis mixed with Infinite Crisis. Sue me.
Identity Crisis stands, it was and always will be one of the top trainwrecks.

>>93727755
They COULD, but seriously, why would they?
If Marvel wanted so badly to not give Fox material, they could just spread the characters among Avengers teams or bring back the actual Champions or whatever, rather than killing off the fan favorites.
Or retread old stories like they're doing, only they could try doing it well. Not like Fox can pull that off.

>>93709966
>>93711208

You mean Siri the T H I C C porn actress? Nah this is a dumb idea

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>>93709177
>that Punisher info

>>93709107
>implying DC wants Slott
lmao

>>93728099
Regardless of what /co/ thinks, the dude is a big name and seeing a Marvel mainstay switch companies will bring in readers. Think businesswise, not fanboywise.

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>>93727182
Waifus aren't dime-a-dozen sluts, anon.

>>93728099
Slott with editorial doing there damn job is pretty good. So yeah DC would get him and put him in a short leash.