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Which pleb girl is the hottest desu

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Which pleb girl is the hottest desu
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my big sister!
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>>93688919
Wait, plebcomics is back?
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>>93688919
Me, obviously
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The self diagnosing mentally ill one.
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>>93688919
Pleb herself is actually the hottest.
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>>93688985
Agreed, followed by that cunt in the sweater dress
Why are Sweater dresses so hot?
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QT
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>>93689002
I would a pleb. But I would wear a bag on my head.
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I like when she draws them thick once in a while.
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>>93689242
Couldn't you just wear the hood from the sex cloak in her wishlist over your eyes?
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Can we all agree the worst is the fat beanie bitch girl? You all know the one.

>"I didn't see anything, officer."
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>>93689325
I was honestly just about to ask this.
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>>93689343
That's the one! The actual video this is based off of makes me so fucking angry, this bitch needs to get punched.
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>>93689360
well now I have to know what the jist of the video is, although it feels like i got a big chunk of the generalities so far
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>>93689325
>>93689343
Why is she the worst?
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>>93689310
At the risk of outing my wizard level, what the fuck is a sex cloak? Google image shows me a combination of game of thrones, frozen, and burquas.
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>>93689383
>>93689393
>girl is talking in a crowd and having an actual discussion in the face of a sea of sperging idiots
>random fucking trash goth autist emerges from the crowd screeching and punches her
>video cuts to later when she's filing a police report
>winner of the 'Miss Punchable Face 2017' award rolls over
>"I didn't see a thing officer! Excuse me, officer, I didn't see anything! Yeah. Nothing happened."
>wears the biggest, smuggest shit eating grin the entire time and flips off the camera
Every time I see it posted there's at least five people who want to punch the fat fuck in her stupid face.
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>>93689383
>>93689393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-IFcCY0m3E
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>>93689002
Pleb is cute!

CUTE!!!

all the posts on her personal blog about how much she hates herself and how lonely she is and how she needs a man/woman to dick/lick her senseless are obvious attention-mongering but I fall for it every time because it gets my dick hard
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>>93689466
http://a.co/b3wYUnc
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What is this?
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best girl
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>>93689488
I really hope her address is attached to this and that she forgets all about it by the time /co/'s secret santa threads come around.
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>>93689513
Plebcomics

http://plebcomics.tumblr.com/tagged/comics
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>>93689528
I also like this girl.
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>>93689540
I have to wonder if it's the real deal.

>>93689310
It's the principle of the matter. Putting bags on things is an SJW move.

Taking her shit and wearing it feels like looting an RPG mob. I'm not sure how I feel about that, although it makes a certain amount of sense in defeat the heroine, and fuck her until she walks crooked sort of way.
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>>93689561
I have no idea what to think about this. And I'm a little sad that despite this comic being designed to make fun of this art style, I still rather like it.

Well, whatever.
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>>93689647
She really posted it, if that's what you mean. Whether or not she'd actually use any of the shit on it for its implied purposes or if it's just a ruse is a mystery.

Personally I think she would at least unashamedly use the vibrators and lube.
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>>93689687
One hand hidden, a mitten, one with 4 fingers and another with 5, and I'm pretty sure it's all intentional cause she draws perfectly serviceable hands in other comics.
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>>93689779
I think that one image is really old by now.
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>>93689482
>self-hating bi who attention whores for anyone
So she's really just like any other tumblr bitch.
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>>93689469
>>93689471
>Comes out of the offending crowd, 110% identical clone of the belligerent protesters
>Literally the most obvious lie in the world with a smug and obnoxious tone the entire time

You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to know she's bullshitting. If the police actually took her seriously, this city needs better police recruitment.
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>tee hee I'm posting /pol/ cancer under the guise of a harmless thread tee hee hee I'm so clever tee hee
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>>93689883
says the munchkin posting low effort /woo/ reaction images.
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>>93689883
>/pol/

Doesn't pleb predate /pol/?
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Every right wing girl I've met has been more brain-damaged than the liberal ones, and the liberal ones are such divas.

Leftist girls though? Hoo boy, they're great. Get yourself a commie for a gf.
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>>93689883
Pleb is actually libertarian, retard.
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>>93689482

this one hurts my head with the level of meta
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>>93689883
>plebcomics
>/pol/
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>>93689929
>Get a gf that would inevitable try to force me to get rid of my guns
Never, a tight chamber > a loose pussy
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all these smug cunts turn me on. Is there a link to more of these?
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>>93689929

>tfw no gf to throw off chains and seize the means of production with
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>>93689929
I think pleb is too gay to be rightwing.
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>>93689972
see >>93689561
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>>93689935
>being a libertarian
I think pleb is the actual retard here.
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>>93689964
Nigga, I said commie, not lib.

>“… the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition… Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
>Karl Marx, Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, 1850
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>>93689929

>wanting a gf that falls for the politics meme

fairly gay, bro
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>>93689139
>not posting the lewd
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>>93689002
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>>93690036
In theory sure, in reality absolutely every communist hellhole that's been attempted had extremely strict gun laws so it was easier for the government to murder everyone complaining about how their family was starving.
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>>93688985
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>>93688919
This isn't Pleb's work but it fits with the theme.
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>>93689883
Pleb is a lesbo, just a sane lesbo.
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>>93690126
And the lewd fanart. I know I would.
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>>93689883
>lookit muh all-purpose wrasslin reaction images
>>>/asp/ergers
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>>93688919
>desu

I don't think you're using that quite correctly.
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>>93690176
what this
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>>93689471
>>93689383
>>93689360
>>93689343
https://ageofshitlords.com/smugglypuff-has-been-arrested

note to scruffy: no names listed in article
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>>93689469
>>93689873
>If the police actually took her seriously
She was facing charges of obstruction of justice and fines. Whether either of those happened is anyone's guess.
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This one
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>>93689471
Jesus what a cunt. I don't much care for Rebel Media but even I have standards, and blatantly lying is one of them. Those other posters are right though, she has a really punchable face. Especially with her flipping the bird at the last couple seconds.
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>>93690471
> Reverse Alfie
mmmmmmmm
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>>93690565
What have you done anon
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>>93690577
wait until InCase's next stream when I show this to him
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>>93690618
>Tall chick
>Short stack guy
Asses the size of moons
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>>93689929
>Right wingers are dumb
>Liberals are melodramatic
>Fuck the ones that are legitimately insane
No. I don't trust you or your judgement.
I mean really anyone who's overly invested in politics and doesn't have a job in it is usually just the worst kind of asshole.
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Call me a faggot but I like the hair
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>>93690471
>Ywn feisty mediocre jewish comedienne gf
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>>93690471
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>>93690176
>>93690364
Oh shit, really? Someone actually saved that?
I'm the artist.
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>>93690686
Do more
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>>93690680
I just want her to ride me while flaring her nostrils and saying through gritted teeth IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO YOU USELESS PIECE OF SHIT

Is that really asking too much of life
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>>93690635
breasts so large you can't even lift them
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I like how plain she looks
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>>93690772
did you just assume xir gender shitlorde
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>>93690471
Good taste anon
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>>93690471
The one with the purse?
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Is the artist... cute?
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>>93690931
no
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>>93690931
If the way she draws herself is any indication... ..no.
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>>93691023
Post a comic with herself.
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>>93690931
Pretty sure this is what she thinks of herself, on a less-good day.

And >>93689002 is how she draws herself in the comic.
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>>93690708
More what? More of the character? I could, I guess. Maybe a little later or something.
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>>93691103
And this is probably the most flattering depiction I've seen her post of herself after a little digging. It's from a bit ago, though.
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This brings up the ever so interesting question of why there are no attractive webcomic artists.
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>>93689215

Well this one hit close to home. Only for some of them I didn't lie, they knew I was underage, and I also went on camera.
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>>93691075
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>>93691189
There's Ronnie Filyaw
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>>93691189
Sarah Anderson draws herself as a goblin but in actuality is a qt.
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>>93690680
Bit early for Zwarte Piet isn't it?
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If the pictures I've seen of her online are true than the artist drawing these comics is an attractive woman.
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>>93690471
The person on the right looks like my teacher from highschool
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>>93691103
To be fair most people in general have absolutely horrendous self-esteem issues, or severely overblown self-esteems, so doodles of themselves usually isn't the best thing to go off of.
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>>93691578
>To be fair most people in general have absolutely horrendous self-esteem issues, or severely overblown self-esteems
Really? I heard most people would call themselves a 7, even if they're clearly hambeast goblins
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>>93689561

>gay and Jewish
that's not how that works, there are Jewish scripture that condemns women laying with women outright, they are suppose to be stoned or turn into sex slaves over it.
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>>93691600
Like I said "or severely overblown"

No one has a realistic opinion of themselves, they either think too little or too highly of themselves.
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>>93691702
Yeah but it's not like the homosexuals tossed off buildings in Arab countries are all Christians
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>>93691702
>or turn into sex slaves
tell me more about this "punishment"
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>>93691766
anon's being dramatic about it stating that the only way out of being stone is for a man to take you as his wife and you being loyal to him. Basically it's either be a dudes baby maker to keep the population up or get stone. Gay men did not have this option, you cross pickles you get stones
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>>93689215
I mean, parental neglect that leads to your 14 year old daughter looking for (cyber)sex with older men is abuse.
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>>93692093
I remember having anonymous cyber sex when I was like 15 and I don't think it was because of parental neglect. It's not as though I was going to go to my parents to find masturbation fuel.
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>>93691511
But I realize the twitter I found called Abbysucks is probably not hers and just someone with a similar name. I suppose there might not be pictures of her online.
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>>93692241
They could've theoretically explained what is a healthy way of satisfying your urges.
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>>93691934
>being dramatic

How is that being dramatic? Seems like an accurate description of the choices involved to me.
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>>93689964
>leftist
>anti gun
You've never ever interacted with a leftist before, huh?
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Pleb's pro-Israelie
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>>93688985
>her face
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>>93689139
i shouldnt want to give her the D
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>>93690931
Not conventionally. Fortunately, I've got a thing for gnomes. I would hit it like 7 dwarves.
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>>93693170
post gif
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>>93689482
boy i sure hope i MEAT a chick
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>>93688919
Huh, this is Molly Ostertag.
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>>93692882
Enough to know that many of them are legitimately stupid, just like many right wingers.

Anyone who makes politics a core component of their personality is a moron.
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>>93692882
I've never met a single liberal who wasn't against gun control
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>>93693621
Leftists are not liberals. Start snooping around leftist circles. Although liberals can share general progressive ideals, leftists are much more focused on radical revolution than working within the system.
>>93693603
Not being able to care about politics is a privilege the majority of people cannot afford. Besides what fantastic components of your personality take up too much space for political beliefs?
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>>93692538
Leading sexuality into societal horse stalls of normally is what got people cutting there junk off in the first place.

No matter the philosophy you must account for a measure of bad or evil. Some abuse will occur. Some children will cry some men will jerk off and some mothers will sell there daughters and sons.

How cultures deal with that negativity is what we need to focus. Preventing the masturbater only leads to more diverse versions of masturbation, like abstinence and religion.

But that's hard. Let's just all agree that somethings bad and then jerk off to it.
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>>93693978
Leftists are against guns. There's a very, very, very small minority that are pro guns, but only in the revolutionary context, and they identify themselves as "old left".
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>>93694058
Again I repeat: liberals are not leftist.
You can find leftists very easily.
Hint: they aren't democrats
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>>93694072
I am talking about leftists, we don't have democrats and republicans in my country, the term liberal is only used in that context on the USA.
I research the left on a global scale, democrats or liberals are irrelevant to me.
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>>93689929
Well, you know where to take a commie gf for a first date.
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>>93694100
Ah, I see. My apologies then. I cannot speak of anything on a global scale.
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>>93689215
This is actually a really interesting question and I don't really have a clear answer. I mean no, obviously the adults here are not responsible for what they did since they were only doing acting off of the information they had at the time. but I would also not dismiss the girls feelings about what happened offhand you can consent to things that turn out to be a bad idea after all.
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>>93690931
In a previous thread someone posted a picture of what she supposedly looked like and I would say yes.
I'm not sure if the other anons are going of drawings of pictures.
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>>93691318
ronnie is cute

CUTE!!
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>>93692093
Short of spying on your children's internet habits, how are you supposed to know?

Then again this is coming from a dude who discovered fetish porn at like, 9 and it definitely didn't have a positive effect on me in the slightest.
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>>93694127
You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

Fag.
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>>93689883
People who mindlessly assert that content they don't like simply MUST be /pol/ are infinatly worse than /pol/. They're no funny, or even charming, they're just annoying.
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>>93694705
Of course not, the cold war never truly ended.
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>>93694127
I know South Americans went through hell with all those disgustingly abusive communist dictators the US had a hand in, but it's so weird that the response to that for so many was "wtf i love fascism now"

Isn't it just another flavor of dictator?
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>>93694742
>communist dictators
>US had a hand in

when you realize how dumb you are a second after trying to make a genuine contribution

brb education
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>>93694740
Pure cancer.
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>>93694742
Fascism has always been a logic response to fear of communism actually, hell, one of the things that got Hitler so popular early on is that communism was on the rise and a lot of Germans were absolutely terrified of it taking hold of Germany.
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>>93691200
I've probably watched you masturbate. Do you think I should be a criminal?
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>>93691495
I know her. Qt on the outside. Diva on the inside
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>>93694783
Hell, Otto von Bismarck created the welfare state to curb the influence of communists.
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>>93689343
Was s(he) tried as a man or a woman?
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>>93694930
As a manatee you shitlord!
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>>93691200
>15 year old girl wanted to meetup with my 22 year old self after she got a picture of me I sent, before I knew how old she was
>she kept asking if guys liked being called daddy, then sending pictures of a collar she bought 'her dog'
>finally what got her to stop and eventually block me in rage was hansen pls
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Can anyone tell me the story behind this one?
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>>93689918
/n/ - News was created in 2006, which is essentially the precursor to /pol/
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>>93695550
Pretty sure that's about Sarah Nyberg.
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>>93695550
look up pedophile dnc convention it makes it even worse knowing he's trans. I thought he got away with it because he was a chick which is just as evil in my opinion but women get away with molestation.
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>>93689600
ideal gf to be honest
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>>93694742
>Isn't it just another flavor of dictator?

No. A dictator that controls the millitary, the press, and loots a free market economy will generally outperform a communist dictatorship that controls all of that and runs a central command economy as well.

A dictator has market pressures to act as a limited check, and to improve efficiency. The result will generally have a healthier economy.

This gets squeezed if you never actually develop your economy, say by having your economy practically based on aid like Haiti.
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>>93694742
>another flavor of dictator?
shit flavored ice cream is less tasty than chocolate.
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>>93688919
whats this tumblr shit?
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>>93689360
she ended up getting arrested later on
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>>93689471
officer i didnt see anything
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>DUDE STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS ARE BAD BUT LET ME DEVOTE MY ENTIRE PORTFOLIO TO NOTHING BUT STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS
LMAO

Fuck off, pleb. I know GG got your followers up but you didn't need to pander that much.
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>>93691538
I wanna fuck your teacher from highschool.
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>>93689471
she reminds me too much of Aj Applegate
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>>93692528
There used to be some floating around, but she scrubbed them after the doxing. Like Ronnie, she draws herself worse than she actually is, so she gets a boost from lowered expectations.
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>>93696666
This is what bothers me the most about her. How often does she ever try to draw something original or different? I get the impression over half her comics are based off true facts, and the punchline is always the same. When she isn't just wallowing in self-pity, that is.
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>>93697321
Her sites used sources. It links to videos or posts by the people being depicted or satirized.

I dunno if it counts as straw man, but I'm sure she knows it is ultimately derivative. She is likely unhappy.
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>>93696666
Is it a straw man if it's real, Satan?
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>>93697361
She's obviously unhappy..But ultimately this is her hobby it sounds like she's given up trying to significantly improve and just dicks around with this and gay stuff.
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>>93697321
>When she isn't just wallowing in self-pity, that is.
I get why they do it, I honestly do, but after a while it gets tiring. And that's coming from a depressing person.
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>>93694796

I'm not sure. Do you ever feel like one?
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>>93697407
I mean, if I could draw comics related to how I feel to make people laugh I'd do it.

"Wallowing in self pity" always sounded a bit overwrought for what it actually entails.
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>>93696611
The abyss.
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>>93689600
Not sure what this means at all
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>>93698653
Lesbian is angry that her girlfriend is in fact bisexual and not a lesbian, which she thought. This is a huge dealbreaker for the girl and now she has nothing in common with bisexual
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>>93698653
It's a comic about some tumblrdyke bitching when she found out a girl she was dating was bisexual instead of exclusively lesbian.
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>>93698682
>>93698695
Alright, I just don't really get if the author is supposed to be speaking, parodying the character, or just depicting some strange thing she saw. I guess it's really hard to see where pleb stands on a lot of these issues?
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>>93695790
>but women get away with molestation.

..and priests
...and members of Parliament and the House of Lords
...and anyone working for the BBC
...and members of the House of Saud
...and Afghan Allies of the US Army (but then again, they can freely kill US soldiers in any US base they fancy and all the brass say is that we should not judge their culture)

Honestly, way too many people get away with molesting kids.
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>>93698740
She draws the shit people says online, no need for a parody
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>>93693978
>Besides what fantastic components of your personality take up too much space for political beliefs?

They were personal beliefs before they were political beliefs, anon. Thanks for proving my point though. Just an object lesson in the toxic quality of political virtue signaling.
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>>93696621
And, surprising absolutely no one, this "gender fluid" individual suddenly decided to identify as female once they were in court.
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>>93698740
Nah if she's making a comic of you it's probably pretty obvious she's making fun of the person.
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>>93693978
Leftists would be cool if they weren't constantly ready to physically attack and destroy any structure that is politically bothering them at any time, including you and your relationship.
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>>93698809
I'm leftist and I don't think like that, why must you generalized an entire block of the political spectrum?
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>>93698821
Because all I have to go with is the word 'Leftist', all I can do is generalize.
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>>93698764
She draws dumb shit teenagers say on online plattform. That people use this to represent the opinons of adults just goes to show that she's poisoning the well.

But then again, she's from the US. They poison their own wells all the time.
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>>93693978
>Not being able to care about politics
He didn't say that people shouldn't care about politics. He said that people internalizing political identity as a replacement for a personality are morons.
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>>93698809
>Leftists would be cool if they weren't constantly ready to physically attack and destroy any structure that is politically bothering them at any time

Republicans are the Leftists party then?
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I don't mind in a thread like this, but look at how fast everyone got at eachother's throats when the subject of politics came up. It's just interesting to me that almost nobody is cool with eachother on this subject.
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>>93698861
Show me a college campus Republicans have taken over with violent protests and I'll believe you. Until then fuck yourself.
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>>93698861
I said physically. Republicans will disrespect and circumvent structures for any reason but Leftists really are politically equipped to bomb something local.
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>>93698881
See >>93698849

People have substituted human empathy with political identity. It's more important to be a member of a social group than anything else, and even though many of these posters hold nuanced beliefs about any variety of subjects that are outwardly political, they will gravitate toward those beliefs propagated by a political group to which they've pledged some portion of their personality.

So it needlessly becomes a conflict of group identity rather than one of ideas or concepts.
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>>93697361
>>93697377
It's a strawman if you misrepresented the argument in favor of tearing down a weaker argument.
She maybe talking about real life people she've encountered but she focues on personal interactions and not the actual issue being addressed.
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>>93698893
>>93698917
Republicans are currently dismantling the national health care service system, Anons.

Mainly because they don't like it. That's just the most current case on something being dismantled by them on grounds of ideology, so clearly they're the equivalent to european communist parties.
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>>93698935
It's to be expected, but is honestly the reason why I don't bring up politics that often in real life. I figured it was sane enough not to vote because I didn't have faith in either candidate, and didn't want to be the person who put either one in power, but any time it comes up someone gets mortally offended at the idea. That being said, not having a 'side' does really make you look spineless.
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>>93698893
>Show me a college campus Republicans have taken over with violent protests and I'll believe you.

Why'd they care about campuses when they control all levels of government safe for state courts?
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>>93698937
The problem comes from the fact that she's talking about specific people she met on tumblr but everyome else is generalizing them to represent all feminists or all liberals or all Transpeople.
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>>93699027
> I figured the best course was to increase the chances for either candidate I dislike to win, to make it easier for either candidate to win AND to claim that they won due to an overwhelming popular support

This is the road to you deserve whatever happens to your country.
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>>93698937
But their actual views are typically bullshit. Besides the comics are more about shitting on the people than wanting to represent whatever vague camp they may be in.
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>>93698893
Shit I would rather be beaten with a brickbu blue haired liberal then spend a minute with a young republican.
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So what do you do, just say you're a liberal and blame someone for making a social mis-step every once in a while? Just always vote against republicans or else anyone who's life isn't going as well as they would have liked will blame you for the totality of their grievances with society?
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>>93699086
>Besides the comics are more about shitting on the people than wanting to represent whatever vague camp they may be in.
Bullshit. These are all encounters from specific tumblr users but she generalize in her art. These go from personal encounters to group behavior.
The guy who does dumbing of age does the exact same thing.
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>>93696462
So it is just another dictatorship, but a slightly more competent one.
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>>93699135
Ironically spending a minute with a young republican will probably lead directly to a blue haired liberal beating you with a brick.
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>>93699157
Is english your second language? I would take more classes if I were you.
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>>93691702
Actually, the old testament only condemns men laying with men.

Feel free to cite chapter and verse to prove me wrong.
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>>93699347
At least the biolebt blue haired liberal is just a figment of your imagination spurred on by your lack of experience real world.
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>>93699347
And that pretty much covers the climate of political discussion right now lol
>>93699359
Fuck you my sentence is perfect
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>>93699394
Actually the old testament said we should all fuck our sins into a goat and sacrifice it before god.
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>>93699027
>That being said, not having a 'side' does really make you look spineless.
Only within a political purview. Pronouncing someone a coward because they refuse to take a political position is ideological bullying. Political narratives are constructed in broad strokes and are designed specifically for the lowest common denominator. Holding a more nuanced position than the established political norm isn't cowardly.
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>>93699422
Fuck you it ain't.
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>>93699083
Democracy is and always has been a lie. Blaming some anon for choosing not to participate in the sham isn't helping anything.
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>>93699025
He asked for examples of violent protests and you just whined about Healthcare.
You could have just said you couldn't think of anything.
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>>93699403
>lack of experience
>would rather be physically harmed than tolerate the presence of someone with different opinions
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>>93699472
Thank you. People just go apeshit when they find out there was an electorate that didn't vote the way they did. People who are pissed you didn't vote just want your vote, and pretty much feel entitled to all your political power as a citizen.
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>>93695550
>>93695744
>>93695790
I think that comic was about Shmorky. He got caught out as an abuser and a pedophile, and the SJWs all rushed to defend him not because he was innocent, but because he was transgender and part of their clique.

>>93693621
I have. Smart liberals know that trusting the government to have all the guns is idiotic when the government will occasionally be controlled by the likes of a Bush or a Trump.
Dumb liberals are convinced they'll never lose, like the SJWs pushing for speech codes they're convinced will never be used against them.

>>93693978
>>93694072

>Leftists are not liberals.

What's the difference? People have been saying this a lot, but never explaining.
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>>93699494
Eh, we both got our piece in
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>>93699425
Not literally "fuck" em.

But that's not what I was asking about, I was asking out the Old Testament and lesbianism.
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>>93699567
>Dumb liberals are convinced they'll never lose, like the SJWs pushing for speech codes they're convinced will never be used against them.
Haha yeah. Poor bastards don't know they're calling for authoritarianism.
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>>93699505
Have you ever hang out with a young republican? They're so fucking autistic and I mean that cause all they talk about how hard it is to be a young conservative on a liberal campus. They're lot like you in a sense anon.you may decrey "identity politics" cause MUH LIBURLS but your entire identity is wrapped up in reactionary politics.
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>>93699677
>Not literally "fuck" em.
Your church have their view and mine has theirs.
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>>93699567
The Left is a direction the political spectrum and liberals are somewhere on there.
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>>93699780
Anon you literally sound like what you're bitching about.
You're bitching about how they have a persecution complex but you're the one who drudged them up from nowhere.
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>>93689482
What's her personal blog?
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>>93699904
You're the one who brought up college republicans in comparison to violent campus liberals.
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>>93699904
>>93699982
lol and this was all because I said you should worry about Leftists blowing up buildings locally
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>>93700018
Which is an unfounded fear. This is ain't the 60s anymore.
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>>93699982
Are you not the guy who brought up preferring a brick to the head over spending a second with a Young Republican?
>>93699135
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>>93700000
IDGAF about this shitty thread, just wanted to see who got this
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>>93700037
Well actually.....
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>>93700037
Exactly, that's why it's funny
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>>93699691
They know they're calling for authoritarianism. They just imagine they'll always be the authorities.

>>93699821
Welsh church?

>>93699861
So the correct statement would be "leftists are not always liberals"?

>>93700037
Wasn't that more of a 70s thing?
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>>93699505
>would rather be physically harmed personally than tolerate the presence of somebody who's totally okay with society wiping out your bloodline

Yeah nah, there are leftists and there are people literally working towards white genocide in the USA.
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>qt Pleb girls thread
>Most posts are political debate
Fuck that noise. Post more waifus.
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Midriff Jew-Dyke a cute
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>>93689002
Only correct answer.

Buy her stuff on her Amazon wishlist so we can get her to dress up as her character.
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>>93699505
:)
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I want to fuck the artist
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>>93689139
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>>93701064
>Awkward sex with tumblr artist who gets off on drawing your romantic encounters.
>Awkward in a good way, with errant fingers and giggles that are just a bit too loud.

Diamonds.
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>>93699780

>Hanging out with an annoying person that you could just walk away from is worse than being violently assaulted.

This is satire, right?
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>>93701263
No it's not, I would rather deal with the radical left than yoing republicans.
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>>93701263
young Republicans who support racism and fucking over the poor are real tho. The violent college liberals is a boogeyman. The observable tells us that the right has harm this country more than the left ever could.
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>>93701398
>Bikelocks
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>>93700037
>2016 was 50 years ago.
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>>93701456
>devastating national policies that simply don't work
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>>93701398
>The violent college liberals is a boogeyman
Antifa
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>>93701554
Who said anything about Obamacare?
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>>93700418
Do you have a link to the original comic?
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>>93691318
tfw no Ronnie room-mate to have wacky webcomic-esque encounters with
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Aren't all her comics quote for quote from sources?
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>>93701398

As always, in the real world the lines between the "good" and the "bad" are blurred. The "Right" and the "Left" are not evil, but some seriously shitty and violent people fall under both umbrellas. It's just that, for the time being, it's the shitty people under the Left's umbrella that are more organized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t7PnrelFdY
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>>93691205
>YWN lay your head on Pleb's soft belly after a long day of making fun of SJW's together
Well I'm sad now.

>>93701587
I've got your sauce m8: http://plebcomics.tumblr.com/post/162404736423/to-celebrate-pride-month-lets-be-prejudice
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>>93701676
>left beats up people
>right commits white genocide

A perfect horseshoe if I've ever seen one.
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>>93689139
I know she is hot. But this shit is pissing me off way too much to actually see her as anything else other than a punching bag. My anger overrides my horniness.

And yes, I know it's not meant to be taken seriously.
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>>93692538
My parents' way of dealing with their children's urges was just to shame the hell out of us. Well, with the girls, anyway.
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>>93689561
I wanna fuck that black girl.
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>>93690565
>>93690577
>>93690618

You guy do know that Alfie had a male halfling fucking a human woman and then getting stoned for doing so (but he does not regret it becuase he grabbed, and I quote: "Breast the size of the moon")?
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>>93694742
The US had a hand in some of them, but remember that during those days the US was more interested in purging the communists from the continent than anything else. Chavez is entirely the Venezuelans fault.
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>>93698759
This world is a fucking disgusting place. Wish we could just fix it, one way or another.
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>>93693990
Sure, but there's a difference between "jerk off" and "expose yourself online for a sexual thrill". Especially if the participant is young and easily influenced.

I wouldn't call it abuse, but it is worth considering discussing how the Internet treats sexuality with young teens.

>>93702408
Well, fuck em.
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>>93700539
They're out of the party hats, though.
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>>93701209
Oh geez...
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>>93692538
>healthy

No, it's not. It can fuck your head and place one of you in prison, dumbass.

Laws are there for a reason and it has very little to do with justice.
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>>93698937
It is online stuff. And it isn't really doing much more than making fun of specific people.

You can't really be using a straw man if the person isn't made of straw. There's no agenda. She's just making cathartic comics.
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>>93702828
I don't think he was in favor of minor/adult cybersex with that comment.
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>>93702828
Dipshit, are you reading the posts you are replying to? "They could've explained what is a healthy alternative". ALTERNATIVE.

As in, opposed to the thing the poster actually did which is obviously unhealthy.
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>>93698740
She often provides links to the people she's referencing, and some of her comics are just direct or paraphrased quotes. The lesbian there is a direct reference to something somebody posted online.
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>>93699086
I agree with this one, this woman seems reasonable and rational
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>>93702768
>it is worth considering discussing how the Internet treats sexuality with young teens.
We need to have this conversation sooner rather than later, Instagram and Snapchat are straight up thot factories
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>>93702873
Well, fuck you. You are right, i'm sorry if I read inconsequential shit too fast.
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I just want a girlfriend who is politically apathetic, isn't fat, looks good with either short hair or a sidecut, and can take the knot. Is that too much to ask for? I don't even care if they're black as long as they aren't an entry-level weeaboo.
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>>93702972
>and can take the knot

I'm not sure you understand what this phrase actually means. And if you do, I just want you to know that you are a terrible and disgusting human being.
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>>93702972
>politically apathetic

Hard to find. We are political creatures as much as sexual creatures.

>isn't fat, looks good

Not that hard.

>either short hair

Pretty cute girls with those hair cuts. A shame they tend to be the biggest bitches on Earth.

>or a sidecut,

You have immensely shit taste and I now will proceed to call you a faggot.
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>>93702936
My brother is 6 and it pisses me off how much I have to watch his YouTube like a hawk to stop him from running into Sonic/MLP slash or Lets Plays of guys talking about Mario taking crack.
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>>93703076
I don't know how people even raise kids anymore. I read your post and my mind immediately goes to "well, why don't you just not let the little kid use a computer/go online?" but then a wiser part of me considers that that may just no longer be an option anymore.
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>>93703034
If I didn't understand, then I wouldn't have said it.

>>93703052
Hey, it's not my fault the sidecut has been co-opted by SJW-types. The same goes for dyed hair and the punk aesthetic in general.

Like, seriously. Punk girls are one of my fetishes, but I can barely enjoy it because of how many shits have taken up the look.
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>>93703130
If I let him only use the TV and Netflix at home, he'll admittedly get less of the internet's nonsense. He'll still get some. He'll hear from friends, from school or daycare.

I didn't show him a single Minecraft thing in my life. But he knows. He cares. He wants more. Why? His peers. The ads.

I don't just let him on my computer though. My parents let him use the iPad. YouTube Kids filters out most of the not age appropriate stuff. But that still leaves a bunch of bizarre, weird awful stuff.

Sonic kissing Rainbow Dash is technically safe for work, you know? So are the millions of videos that are an adult opening a box of toys, describing them one by one.
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>>93702790
Surely that's not the only source for little party hats in existence.

>>93703076
>>93703130
The internet was not made for children, and should not be watered down so it's safe for children.

Though I don't know how parental blocking tools deal with stuff like a YouTuber saying naughty things.
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>>93703358
Well, yeah, but since Amazon wishlists don't actually give away the user's address, there's no way to send them anything not on their wishlist. So unless she adds a new source of party hats, or her source restocks, there isn't a good way to send her pointy hats without doxing her (again).
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>>93703358
I'm not arguing for censorship. I'm trying to figure how to describe the way it is to a kid.

I've had to say stuff like "well, someone edited the game to be different, they can change the code". Or "there are a lot of videos not for kids, even if they are about kids cartoons".

I literally have to try to teach him to identify what is fan made content vs. official because someone dubbing over an entire episode of Pokémon can have all kinds of shit in there.
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>>93688919
Actually, it's a question, so you should say "...desu ka"
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>>93702903
>The lesbian there is a direct reference to something somebody posted online.

Yeah, she's basically fishing for turds in a toilet bowl.
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>>93704880
No, desu stands for "to be honest" here.

In which case OP is still using it wrong because it's meant to be used as a statement and not a question.
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>>93705345
Is there still a word filter?
Test baka desu senpai
baka
desu
senpai
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>>93689929
Best girls I've met are girls with Ted Kazyinski fathers. They grow up without being objectified and are survivalists who recognized that their father and mother went overboard. Also great asses from all the physical labor.
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>>93694413
This. I don't think the girl is asking us to hate the adults she roleplayed with; she explicitly points out that they're blameless. But there's a reason we don't let people have sex with 14 year olds, and this is it.
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>>93690663
What's this in response to?
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>>93698759
Just about everyone gets away with molestation.
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>>93700399
I agree with this.
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>>93701587
That is the original, or half of it. Here's the other half
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>>93702914
She IS the comic is actually her arguing with an SJW about free speech, but then she feels undercut when a Nazi comes to back her up.
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>>93708359
It feels so weird hearing people today actually thinking being a Nazi is okay.....when did that happen? I thought Nazis were one of the few groups that you could just objectively agree were evil.
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>>93708469
kiddos unironically believed edgy internet teenagers
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>>93703453
That would be a modern first - doxxing someone because the internet wants to send them gifts instead of death threats.

>>93703520
I don't envy parents these days.

Well, I do, I seriously envy them, I want to have kids. But that's a job that's only getting harder.

>>93708317
It's so hard to believe that actually happened, but it did.
And now the organizers are raising money online to send themselves on vacation after their hard work of rounding up Jews and expelling them.

>>93708469
When SJW types start endlessly calling everyone they disagree with Nazis, the word starts losing its power.
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>>93708469
It's like how everyone on 4chan throws around autism, it's used so much an with such little meaning that it's basically a meaningless word.

Sexist, racist, nazi, etc. basically don't mean anything anymore.
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>>93708469
You're acting like this just popped up from nowhere.
Nazi Sympathizers never stopped existing.
And a unanimous agreement on objective evil has never existed.
Also there's always been people who never really gave a fuck about what others think. It also helps these people also think Jews control the media.
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>>93708821
> It also helps these people also think Jews control the media.

Yeah, they think. That doesn't actually happen and can be easily observed, right. Wink wink nudge nudge.
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>>93708874
>A few dozen rich Jews own a large portion of the media
>therefore it's ok to hate all the street level Jews
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>>93708469
>when did that happen?
It's never not been a thing. People have been openly identifying as various things over the decades that are basically Nazis, without openly identifying as Nazis. "We're not Nazis, we just believe non-whites are inferior and want to force all the non-whites out of our respective countries. We're not saying we want to round them up and put them in concentration camps, clearly THAT didn't work".
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>>93694127
Faggot ass meme.
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>>93708469
Not sure for the real world, but we kind of know how it happened to 4chan. 4chan being 4chan often takes stances that are meant to shock and appall. However, genuine Stormniggers from Stormfront saw an opportunity to garner support so they basically started shilling their retarded viewpoints on /pol/ through bait and other means began to dominate the board.
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>>93709010
To be fair there were people doing that before the Nazis. In fact apparently they used to hate Nazis because foreigners fucking out.
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>>93694742
As a South American I cannot see any distinction between fascism and socialism, so if any of them are killed I feel happy.
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>>93708996
It's not ok to hate any of them, but by large portion you should say 90% of all media. It's about a group of 40 or so jews and they behave in cult mentality. That's all, those are facts.
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>>93708233
When I see someone talking about school dress codes, I think of this picture, and I don't think I agree with it.

Dress codes are such a subjective thing they can get tricky. I think the concept of instilling values in kids to dress somewhat professionally in an academic environment has some merit, but I also think that unduly shaming kids can be unfair and harmful, so I'm torn. I just don't like it when kids dress like little tramps and think it's a respectable way of walking around outside the house, especially in a place that's supposed to be fostering professional life skills. But if you take it too far and the shit they're wearing isn't even all that trashy, you'll get a negative reaction that isn't even worth it and just hurts people. And its hard to trust staff members to their personal judgement without fucking up.
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>>93709905
>that image
reminds me of an argument I recently had with a bunch of straight white women who were arguing that anyone who dares to protest pride parades(this one in toronto) are homophobic pigs.

I pointed out that pride parades tend to be barely-disguised orgies and just parades of debauchery disguised as 'gay pride'. However, I made the mistake of making one mention that there was a group even EXCLUDED from the parade(the Toronto police) and rather than actually focus on my argument over how filthy pride parades really are, they argued over the merit of the police and whether they DESERVED to be at Pride.

I'm an openly bisexual mixed-race dude.
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These comics are actually fun
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>>93689929
>Get yourself a commie for a gf.

Have fun with that "open relationship".
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>>93702275

>right commits white genocide

???
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>>93710080
Well, I mean, if it's about all inclusion gay pride and the gay police officers and ally officers want to join to share their pride and alliance, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed.

I do know that one of the few gay friends I have has mentioned he sometimes fucking hates pride parades because they flaunt gay stereotypes that he's really sick of being associated with, like being sexually loose and over the top flamboyant.
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>>93709905
>dress somewhat professionally
To be fair, in the business world plenty of people have unreasonable expectations of professional work-dress, too. Making people who don't face customers and sit inside a cubicle all day wear pants and long-sleeved shirts in 115 degree weather is retarded no matter how you slice it.
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>>93710080
What does you being a mongrel have anything to do with that?
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>>93710216
yeah, even the one who'd made the post was running around in legwarmers, a bikini, and rainbow hair.

>>93710239
just a further contrast to the group of straight white girls.
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>>93710080
"degeneracy" is not an argument. and being mixed gay does not give you any special intelligence or authority on the matter.
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>>93710239
It means that any point he has has more merit to these people than a white guy's.

It's sad but true.
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>>93710287
I'd say being able to argue that Pride parades do not in any way represent the average LGBT person is a pretty valid argument, and pointing out how filthy a supposedly 'all-inclusive' parade is, making it incredibly inappropriate for crowds like children are pretty valid reasons to protest them.
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>>93710216
that's the point of pride though. being prideful rather than being a whiny little bitch.

really, your gay friend is going to hate on other gay people for being silly rather than the people who hate on him because other gay people are silly?

really, everyone could just learn to fucking chill and not judge strangers for random bullshit.
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>>93710228
Maybe, but letting them wear rhinestone tube tops and short shorts that say "juicy" on the rear shouldn't fly either. Like I said, it's an entirely subjective thing that requires certain levels of practicality and moderation, which unfortunately depends heavily on the personal judgement of those in authority.
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>>93710216
>I do know that one of the few gay friends I have has mentioned he sometimes fucking hates pride parades because they flaunt gay stereotypes that he's really sick of being associated with, like being sexually loose and over the top flamboyant.
Maybe that's what they used to be before they went mainstream, but now that they have corporate sponsors and police marching in them, they're pretty professional and SFW. Here's a pic from the one we had a few weeks ago.
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>>93710228
>Making people who don't face customers and sit inside a cubicle all day wear pants and long-sleeved shirts in 115 degree weather
What kind of office doesn't have air conditioning?
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>>93710216
>>93710080
>>93710287

Can someone please explain to me why BDSM leather fetishists / "leather daddies" seem to be so prominent at a lot of pride parades? What does a fetish have to do with being LGBT? I feel like there should at least be SOME standards of decency, and certain things really should remain in the bedroom or at least on private property.
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>>93710333
so we should protest anything that doesn't represent you personally?

fuck off, pride parades are not the end of the world, and let me assure you, the fundies will find a way to hate you without them anyway.
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>>93710216

>Well, I mean, if it's about all inclusion gay pride and the gay police officers and ally officers want to join to share their pride and alliance, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed.

They shouldn't be allowed because they create an unsafe environment for / cause unnecessary duress to LGBT PoC. If they want to come off duty and out of uniform they're welcome to do so, but they shouldn't participate in a way that actively antagonizes or stresses out other attendees.
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>>93710418
Oh, I don't doubt it.

But pride parades represent about as much of the community as SJWs do feminism, and are presented as THE FACE of the community.
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>>93710362
He can hate both. He has a lot of hatred to go around. He also hates these "fujoshits" people and suspects I may be one, for some reason.

It's not really a "I have made it my personal mission to convince these people to kill themselves" kind of hatred, though. More of a "no thanks, this thing is not really my scene, and while I'm not impolite enough to rudely express it to your face, I will express my personal annoyance of the aesthetic and values of this subculture when in the privacy of my own friendgroup, because, opinions."
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>>93710406
1) counter point >>93710382


2) isn't the whole point of pride really about not being ashamed of your sexuality, regardless of it's shape? hiding your sexuality in the bedroom because some dickhead doesn't like it is the exact opposite of pride.
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>>93710484

Are sexualities and paraphilias the same thing?
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>>93699025
>Republicans are currently dismantling the national health care service system, Anons.
Because government-run, taxpayer-funded healthcare is against my values, and I'm a poorfag.
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>>93710508

Stop voting against your own interests.
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>>93710484
To be fair there's a major difference between sexual orientation and being a fetishist.
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>>93710216
>I do know that one of the few gay friends I have has mentioned he sometimes fucking hates pride parades because they flaunt gay stereotypes that he's really sick of being associated with, like being sexually loose and over the top flamboyant.

I helped my boss network at a pride parade and she basically said this. "we're all queer but we don't need to be whores. I just want to call some of these boys' mothers."
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>>93699135
Why is that? You sound like a bigot.
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>>93710483
>>93710454
honestly it seems like you bought the right wing propaganda of these things being barely concealed orgies when for the most part, they really aren't.
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>>93710452
>but they shouldn't participate in a way that actively antagonizes or stresses out other attendees.
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>>93708178
Pleb got doxxed because Tumblristas didn't like her comics.
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>>93710484
There is a difference between standing up for your fetish and waving it around in people's face saying "JUST DEAL WITH IT"
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>>93710452
the police are there as crowd control and safety officers. some might participate but if they're coming in uniform, it's because they have a job to do.

would you rather have someone set off a bomb like so many people were threatening to do two years ago, and have no police presence to respond immediately? christ. you have to have police at any large, city-wide gathering like a parade.
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>>93710552

The fact of the matter is, PoC have legitimate reasons to feel nervous around cops. If LGBT officers wish to participate, they should be sensitive to the needs of the community and come in plainclothes or remain at the outskirts.
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>>93698759
Don't forget Boy Scout troop leaders.
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>>93710544
they're much tamer in recent years but in my experience they're still barely PG-13. two years ago I was walking behind a giant truck full of dudes in codpieces grinding on each other, rigged to spray foam on them/everyone at random intervals, and that wasn't the lewdest thing I saw.
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>>93710418
>so we should protest anything that doesn't represent you personally?

That is literally the entire point of identity politics.
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>>93710508
because actually getting something back from your taxes is unamerican?

jesus fucking christ on a cracker, why are you fine paying for bombs and subsidies for giant corporations but not for roads and the healthcare of your friends and family?
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>>93710605
>or remain at the outskirts.

This it too meta for me.
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>>93699050
Go back in time, then. Find me a conservative equivalent of antifa from the past 20 years.
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>>93710650
oh gosh. so lewd. it's not like anyone is forced to be there/watch.

>>93710578
not really. hiding in the closet didn't get anyone marriage equality. shouting "just deal with it" did.
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>>93710707
>it's not like anyone is forced to be there/watch.
you were just acting like the parades aren't lewd anymore. don't come back with that "nobody's forced to watch" bullshit.
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>>93710406
Iunno, but last I heard about it I think was something or other about LGBTBBQ advocates not wanting heterosexual kinksters "invading their space" by sharing their own social difficulties managing their sexual quirks, I guess because they didn't want sexual degeneracy associated with their real life problems with discrimination.

Which I kinda get. To a degree, fetishes belong in the bedroom. And the gay etc community maybe isn't the place for everybody. But I also just kinda wish that my sexual hangups and insecurities as a bondage enthusiast that just can't get off on more conventional vanilla material, didn't have to quite so shamefully hide my personal interests from both sides of the equation and could be just a tad more open about what I consider a pretty big part of my life and sexual identity. But whatever, I'm just a whiny pervert.
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>>93710694
remember the bundy ranch thing? they literally took over a government building with guns.
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>>93699780
Oh, you mean Republicans in a campus organization, not Republicans who happen to be young. That's different.

I can't afford to go to a real college.
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>>93710743
PG-13 and sexual innuendo is not lewd you fucking puritan.
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>>93710666
Why do you think that, Satan?
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>>93710707
>not really. hiding in the closet didn't get anyone marriage equality. shouting "just deal with it" did.
Are you saying homosexuality is pretty much the same as fetishes only for sex?
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>>93710750
>Bundy Ranch
>An isolated protest comprised of like ten dudes mad at a ranch dispute.

>In any way comparable to nationally organized violent protests of people mad at white people for existing.

Still waiting.
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>>93710373
People always seem to forget that men have even more stringent dress codes that women. Guys literally all have to wear the exact same outfit and within a certain amount of acceptable colours, with no leeway given depending on the day's weather.
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>>93710484
Some people identify as anal vore fanatics, that doesn't mean they should go out in public naked with an action figure stuffed in their ass claiming "you bigots just have to deal with it!"
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>>93710797
>show me an example
>but only my infallible, nebulous example that if you should meet it, I can easily change

lmao @ u
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>>93710779
>dudes in only codpieces grinding on each other and being shot with foam isn't lewd

maybe to degenerates
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>>93710864
Well he's not wrong, maybe if they burnt the bitch down.
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>>93710790
ok, there's no magical wall separating people who like straight vanilla from people who like straight kinky from people who like gay vanilla.

It's all just a part of human sexuality.
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>>93710864
>Show me an example of violent right-wing protests like the ones on college campuses.
>Says crazy dude innawoods is the exact same thing as antifags
>herp goalposts

You have to actually meet the goalposts before you accuse someone of moving them, anon.
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>>93710666
The government has two jobs: to protect our rights (negative rights, specifically) and to protect the country from outside threats. Bombs fall under the latter category. You're right about corporate subsidies, though.

>>93710748
I wish I didn't have to live in fear of being outed as a diaper fetishist, which would ruin any chance of gainful employment.

>>93710750
Fair enough. I'd argue that wasn't a big a deal as Berkeley, but you gave me what I asked for.
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>>93710804
yes it does.

people have walked around naked for thousands of years. civilization didn't collapse then, it'd be fine now.
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>>93710605
>The fact of the matter is, PoC have legitimate reasons to feel nervous around cops.
No, they don't.
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>>93710666
Because I'd prefer to give my money to good private businesses that will build my roads directly instead of trusting the nanny state to hire some jerk offs I've never heard of to do it.
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>>93710929
Not the guy you're replying to, but Antifa showed up to Berkeley after a leftist was shot by a Trump supporter there on Inauguration Day. "They broke a window uguu" isn't as bad as shooting a guy.
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>>93711028
Wasn't that a Berniebro?
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>>93710802
Oh, yeah, I don't mean to be skewing it in favor of one gender over the other. I've been avoiding directly mentioning gender because I believe the same principals go both ways. I just find that women's fashion has some more ridiculous examples to pull from, but really I don't think guys should be wearing tube tops or juicy shorts either anyway.

But yeah, if you're not going to air condition the office (which imo, is a waste of money when dressing lighter is the more economical option), then you should at least let the men wear short sleeve polos or something. A healthy comfortable employee is more productive anyway.
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>>93711028
Talk shit, get hit.

It's one of the oldest laws of human history
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>>93711028
>the right on 4chan bitch constantly about people getting triggered, and would laff if you flamed someone for posting cp on this site
>now they get booty blasted about some protests, blacks in games, and t.v. and try to hunt down fake pedophiles tentatively connected to the DNC

made me think desu
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>>93710979
>We used to walk around naked back when we were practically animals, so why is it wrong now that we're a civilized society?
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>>93711086
America sorta has laws against that.
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>>93711086
>Rightwing protesters aren't violent
to
>Okay they are, but they're justified.
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>>93711028
And three black teenagers kidnapped a mentally challenged kid and tortured him for being a Trump supporter.

The moral of the story is that all people are terrible.
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>>93711086
You do realize that's the very same excuse SJW have on censoring speech no? You are literally no better then the people you claim to hate.
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>>93711146
>And three black teenagers kidnapped a mentally challenged kid and tortured him for being a Trump supporter.

IIRC, some kid just mad a trump joke during a video. It wasn't politically motivated. I can see why you'd believe that, though.

>mentally challenged kid
>Trump supporter
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>>93711142
Not the original guy you were arguing with, I don't care which side initiates the violence. The world right now would probably be much simpler if we abandoned all this faffing about and just settled shit with a good scuff up.
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>>93710936
except when was the last time our bombs actually protected american citizens?

the republican elite cuts the general spending that they have successfully convinced you that you don't need or deserve, while ramping up anything that pays their corporate overlords.

your taxes=straight into rich people's pockets.

you're being played for a fool.
And yes, corporate democrats are just as bad (with the small exception of social issues.) hopefully, now that trumpcare proves how much of a con man trump is, we can go back to bernie style populism and get these rich fucks out of politics for good.
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>>93711024
you actually want toll roads? wtf.
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>>93711184
>The world right now would probably be much simpler if we abandoned all this faffing about and just settled shit with a good scuff up.
t. some Austrian guy in 1914
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>>93711187
It'll be funny to see what new bullshit social identity fight the Republicans cook up after shitting the bed again.
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>>93710936
>I wish I didn't have to live in fear of being outed as a diaper fetishist, which would ruin any chance of gainful employment.

I'm with you on that
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>>93711174
>joking about someone that was brutally tortured and traumatized
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>>93711261
Hey, I never said a retarded kid was a Trump supporter.
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>>93711261
you're on 4chan bro. you automatically lose any moral argument simply by being here.
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>>93710080
Wasn't the only reason the police were kicked out of the Pride parades in Toronto was because BLM basically blockaded them until they met their outrageous demands?
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>>93711339
What if you just come for the porn?
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>>93711381
Pretty much. Wasn't one of the organizers a tranny cop too, or am I thinking of a different incident?
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>>93711207
Yes, I want the ability to pay for my own shit, not have other people take my money to buy what they think I should have.
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>>93711381
I don't even know why this is a big controversy; Pride started in part as a response to a big riot where cops beat the shit out of a ton of gay and trans people in New York. Rolling up to a Pride parade in a rainbow cop car is kind of disrespectful.
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>>93711311
I don't even think the kid was a Trump supporter, they just made anti-Trump comments while torturing him.
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>>93711311
Is that a fucking Jennings pocket pistol? Not only they're some gay fags but they have to be poor gay fags
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>>93711381
>>93711429

BLM has also come up with a "more inclusive" version of the Pride Flag.
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>>93711429
>instead of showing solidarity and building bridges between groups and mending old wounds we should continue driving in as many wedges as possible to shame exclude and divide people

Genius.
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>>93711429
Why? They're not those cops. They're gay cops. They're proud of being gay and being cops.
And if anything actively antagonizing cops especially ones that support them doesn't help their cause if anything it implies they WANT the animosity between gays and police to continue and to never move past what began this in the first place.
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>>93711418
>not have other people take my money

AND THAT'S WHY WE PAY TAXES ASSHOLE.

go live in some ancap paradise and watch how long you keep your money till some thug takes it.

your bullshit philosophy is about as realistic as communism you stupid fuck. your magical utopia would last a day before some demagogue with guns turns it into a police state.
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>>93711429
That was decades ago, and trying to stoke that sentiment instead of allowing cops that want to integrate is only going to cause more alienation. I mean hell, wouldn't more cop support be a fucking good thing for LGBT groups?
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>>93711512
>tfw modern leftists have gone full circle, advocated segregation and calling minorities "coloured" again
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>>93711508
>Hey, let's take a flag that has nothing to do with race and insert race into it
>But only one race
>Fuck all the other races
BLM is so retarded that it's infuriating. I will never understand how they still have so much popular support despite all the bullshit they've been involved with.
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>>93711544
>That was decades ago,

The parade exist to commemorate that event. Why should it be a PR campaign?
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>>93711588
>But only one race
There's two colors in there
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>>93711588
>Black and brown
>One race

I mean, I don't really like the flag, but it seems like you're looking for excuses to get mad.
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>>93711596

The parades have evolved, as have the times. Living in the past serves no one. It's 2017!
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>>93711429
>Rolling up to a Pride parade in a rainbow cop car is kind of disrespectful.
That's like saying white people and black people should never be friends.

What happened to MLK Jr.'s vision of racial equality and people realized that Malcolm X was wrong, he himself admitted he was wrong and was assassinated by his own group for saying they were wrong? Why is doubling down on our differences and segregation the new "Social Justice"?
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>>93711418
Holy shit kid just stop you're just making yourself as an idiot
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>>93711628
>Rolling up to a Pride parade in a rainbow cop car is kind of disrespectful.

>That's like saying white people and black people should never be friends.

homie WHAT
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>>93711609
>>93711613
Considering "black" skin color is mostly just shades of brown and was an addition made by a group that represents black lives, I'm inclined to believe it only represents on race.
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>>93711613
I think anon sees one black person running so fast they're smearing the frames.
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>>93711588
>I will never understand how they still have so much popular support
Honestly they really do not, their supporters just happen to be very, very loud.
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>>93711656
you're inclined to be retarded, apparently.
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>>93711596
So you're basically saying that cops should be vilified forever despite changing over time? I mean hell, cops in uniform wanting to be apart of the parade shows progress more than anything.
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>>93711647
I'm comparing your idea of the police shouldn't try to make amends of what they did wrong to the LGBTQ community and bridge their differences together to the idea of African Americans dark history of brutal oppression by white people, making a point that if we tried to apply your logic in a simmiliar scenario of great injustice the only thing that will be achieved is more segregation, not less.
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>>93711028
Pretty sure the leftist that got shot was shot by a fellow protester.
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>>93711704
Quite a witty retort there my friend.
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>>93711715
Asking cops to not use a parade that exists in part to protest police violence as a PR campaign isn't "vilifying cops forever"
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>>93711656
>"to highlight black and brown LGBTQIA members within [the city's] community".[26] Some LGBT activists in Philadelphia and other communities criticised the flag as unnecessary and divisive.[27][28][29]

Gabby Rivera comes to mind. Can't think why.
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>>93711759
Sounds pretty close to it.
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>>93711728
>I'm comparing your idea of the police shouldn't try to make amends of what they did wrong to the LGBTQ community

Are they?
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>>93711759
>"Hey, we're cops and we want to show our support for your cause and show that not all police are the same"
>"Fuck you pigs!"
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>>93711759
No but your're pointlessly shooting yourself on the foot. Isn't other cops joining in against police brutality a GOOD thing?
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>>93711770
Also as I understand, this is Philadelphia's variant, not the new official one?
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>>93711804
Yes?
>But I have a source of this one cop being a jerk
Thus all the more reason for more good cops to try to root them out?

I feel like your argument against cops protesting is less out of logic and more from sheer pettiness.
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>>93711879
>But I have a source of this one cop being a jerk

It's actually the official position of the NYPD.
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>>93711959
Wasn't the parade in Toronto though? What does the NYPD have to do with Toronto police force?
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>>93711959
And increased lgb support from other police communities might get them to change their position. But hey, all cops are pigs, right?
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>>93711959
The official belief of one government power does not represent the belief of people.

Many Arab countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE have harsh sharian laws that promote the stoning of women and their systemic oppression. Some like Qatar even activly promote terrorist organizations. Does that mean every single Muslim actually believes this in your mind?
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>>93711246
Thanks, man.

>>93711187
I haven't been made aware of my taxes going to private corporations, but our tax system is so ridiculous that I'm going to assume your aim is accurate.

>bernie style populism
Again, that is antithetical to everything I believe in.
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>>93712043
I mean, if this is generalization, and all these events are just bad eggs (no matter how much power or rank they have), why blame anyone for anything at all? Why get mad at SJWs or BLM for a handful of people not wanting cops in a parade?
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>>93712094
You're acting like if i'm against BLM or peoples right to protest when I never remotely did and believe that it's actually our god damn given right to do so. Even If I disagree with a protest beliefs I believe they still very much have every right to voice them.

What I AM against is people like you telling who should and shouldn't protest or use their speech.
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>>93712094
Don't be retarded. You can blame the organization itself but can find support within individuals. Not everyone in a group agrees on everything. If a cop wants to join a Pride parade in solidarity it would be nothing but pure stupidity to reject them and would be the antithesis of progress.
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>>93712191
>You can blame the organization itself but can find support within individuals.
...that's what they're doing.
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>>93712230
No they're not, they're actively pushing away these individuals. If a cop wants to go against the norm and support them, why should they be rejected? Forcing them to only attend in plainclothes is basically saying that they don't need cop support.
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>>93712266
>Forcing them to only attend in plainclothes is basically saying that they don't need cop support.

Also the added irony of telling someone to hide who they are.
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>>93712285

Hah, I hadn't even thought of that! That's pretty good.
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>>93712266
>Forcing them to only attend in plainclothes is basically saying that they don't need cop support.

First it was "they're excluding gay cops", now it's "they're excluding their uniforms", which isn't really the social justice tragedy of the month.
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>>93699403
Ok then you havent been to a college or university. Those fuckos are everywhere.
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>>93712297
ITT:

>Police violence against minorities and LGBT people isn't real.
>blue haired SJW landwhales are a constant, powerful, and prevalent threat to free society.
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>>93712296
It is when you realize the potential good there could be if more cops came out helping with their cause. Again, you guys are just shooting yourselves in the foot for no reason other then asinine spite.
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>>93712296
Are you legitimately retarded? The cops had a parade float and were excluded from the parade itself, they can only attend in plainclothes.
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>>93712327
And someone compared this to racial segregation, because...?
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>>93712339
Because it's literally segregation?
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>>93712339
>Black people can still order food at this restaurant, they just can't actually stay here and eat it. How is that racist?
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>>93712319
>Occasional threat to tiny tiny minority
>Crazy rioters burning down shit at whatever offends them
Well Antifa does seem like the greater threat
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>>93712319
>Stop making completely reasonable points.
>I want the privilege to call everyone I personally dislike a racist sexist homophobic transphobic demon from white hell, and anyone who tells me otherwise is an internalized oppressor.

Hey, strawmen are fun.
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>>93712319

Police violence against minorities and LGBT people is real and a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

"Blue haired SJW landwhales" and similar radical groups on university campuses are also an enduring problem in academia.
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>>93712359
>Comparing segregation to a uniform you wear for work.
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>>93712381
>It's ok to segregate based on clothing choices.
You know just once I would have liked to see a progressive lefty with a consistent philosophy. Just once.
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>>93712376
Uh... I'm not the one calling other people racist and being triggered in this thread. (Thet'll be the "cops are being oppressed" guy)
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>>93712339
>The allegory is bit by bit explained to you
>Still so far up your ass to refuse to listen to reason
You know what? I'm tired and I could literally be doing anything else. It's okay you win.

I sincerely hope for the legitimate betterment of LGBTQ rights that their group leaders aren't as inanely insane, petty and stupid as you.
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>>93712411
I know, hence the strawman. You made one, I made one illustrating your ridiculous position. Everyone laughs and nobody wins.

And you're plenty triggered, snowflake.
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>>93712411
Well they are.
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>>93712420
>A single pride parade doesn't want a cop float because it looks bad in a parade against police violence.

>The gays will literally bring back homophobia for not letting cops wear their uniforms on a float.
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>>93712380
What if I told you there was a harvard study saying that racial minorities are not being disproportionately targeted?
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>>93712425
Let the retard be anon. We as a society will learn or lesson when identity politics fully take over and realize that over the years the only thing that was created was more conflict but no solutions.
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>>93712463
It'd have to be pretty conclusive to retort the thousands of other studies that say they are.
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>>93712463
Harvard studies are a tool of the patriarchy. I only trust Evergreen College studies.
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>>93712420
>I sincerely hope for the legitimate betterment of LGBTQ rights that their group leaders aren't as inanely insane, petty and stupid as you.
They are, to a one. Identity politics rules the modern political arena, buffered by a shady playbook of catastrophically destructive postmodern philosophies which elevate individual narratives to the level of objective reality.

The only consolation is that it won't go anywhere. They all ascribe to social constructionism and "critical theory," neither of which permit much creative thought for future endeavors or any vision for the future. Despite the noise, they aren't goal-driven. They'll burn out eventually.
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>>93712492
http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399
Now link some of the other studies that you believe there are. As near as I can tell, this study is actually the first one to look into it.
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>>93712420
We already have all the rights we really want, at least in the US.

Most people went home to their partners they can legally wed/ do tax shit with. Anyone that remains is batshit fucking insane and happens to be gay or trans.

>>93712495
Let's hope so.
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>>93712479
Political identity politics (Blue Lives Matter, respect the flag, etc.) and white identity politics (build the wall, 14 words, etc.) are still identity politics. Being more concerned with one police float in a parade than any legit LGBT concerns is an example of creating conflict while offering no solutions.
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>>93712494
>Evergreen College studies
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>>93712549
But he actually offered a solution: ignore the identity politics and let the cops go.

Still waiting on yours.
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>>93689215
Shiiiit, I did the same thing when I was like 11. Sometimes I would say I was of age but most of them were from the AOL kids or teen chat room so they knew full well I was younger.
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>>93712549
And they are terrible.
The difference is that the core beliefs of the Pride movement is actually good, but is ultimately shattered by it's own attempts of "fighting fire with fire" which surprise, only creates more fire.

It's sad because you are meant to be better then this.
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>>93712534
uh... did you read that study?
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>>93712549
>white identity politics = hardcore fascist supremacism

I'm pretty sure it's more nuanced than that, but I'm also pretty sure you're an idiot for thinking that white people are all racist so I don't know if this conversation is actually productive.
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>>93712622
>I'm also pretty sure you're an idiot for thinking that white people are all racist

Everyone keeps calling me racist. Is this some sort of reverse SJW thing?
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>>93712618
>in New York City
Did you?

>On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.
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>>93712453
>Alienate gay cops who want to be apart of the solution for no logical reason outside of pure emotional bullshit
>Less progress because they're essentially spurning the cops that want to make a difference in the system
>Everyone was ok with the cops being apart of the parade until BLM had a tantrum and forced the organizers with an ultimatum
Are you intentionally being this dense?
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>>93711588
It's got black, brown and yellow what other minorities do you need?
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>>93712649
Well you very clearly are. Did I misread something in your statement that a white identity is automatically Nazism?
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>>93712679
Barsoomians.
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>>93712668
>This one specific use of force is similar among races.
>Says nothing about any other force of police brutality.
>Says nothing for the conviction rate of cops who shoot/kill black people.

Come on, son, even the study you're quoting says that minorities are targeted with violence more often.

>>93712693
Appeals to white identity over substance are supremacist.
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>>93712549
Let the float in. That seemed like a pretty obvious solution.
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>>93712741
>ignores the CONTEXT of it
If more blacks than whites assault a cop and he puts them in cuffs that doesn't mean anything but more black people tend to assault cops than whites.
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>>93712741
Except in shootings.

And if appeals to a white identity are inherently supremacist, then appeals to any identity are inherently supremacist.

That you associate a white identity with Nazism is, again, evidence of your abundant bigotry.
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>>93712741
And appeals to black identity over substance aren't supremacist?
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>Now I can activate my nuts whenever I want

I'm screaming this the next time I'm about to cum.
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>>93712792
The study controlled for population.

>>93712806
>>93712817
>if appeals to a white identity are inherently supremacist, then appeals to any identity are inherently supremacist.

"White identity" in America exists either as a contrast to colored identity, or to promote cross-cultural white solidarity. It's something that didn't exist until rich people wanted the plurality of poor people in America to take their side against black slaves.

"Black Identity" exists because of the diaspora caused by the atlantic slave trade. Disconnected from their foreign roots, black people created their own unique black culture in America. Also, to a certain extent, foreign blacks that come to America are treated the same as natives.

"Black identity" in America has more in common with "Irish identity" than the broad scope of "white identity".

Funnily enough, this is the same misconception American Pan-Africans apply to Africa.
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>Thread about cute girls
>SJWs just have to ruin it
Disappointing but not unexpected
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>>93689139
>>93688919
women's "rights" was a mistake
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>>93712916
Narrativist bullshit. You are a product of the failing American university system.

White identity exists for the same reason black identity exists: white people exist and have their own communities with their own problems. That you apply any sort of continental synthesis to something so basic is, once again, evidence you have some serious misgivings about white people and are searching for an excuse to disqualify them from personhood.
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>>93712976
Anyone got the pleb girl with the beanie and beaver teeth
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>>93713051
>Literally American History 101 explanation for racial discrimination in America.
>"""Narrativist"""

lmao, this is like one of those "WHY ISN'T THERE A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION" memes.
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>>93713111
Do you mean >>93689343?
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>>93713137
Well that, and Woodrow Wilson was a massive racist and slightly fascist in a lot of ways. If you believe trump is fascist:
Wilson was far more so.
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>>93713197
no one i was talking about was thinner
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>>93713137
>My narrativist, social constructivist worldview applies to everything but history books I trust implicitly and with no critical eye.

Again, that desire for a progressive liberal with a halfway consistent worldview goes unfulfilled.
A white identity exists. Always has. It exists for the same reason any racial identity exists, and there's nothing inherently supremacist about any of them. You include additional qualifiers to white people's personhood because you consider them less than people.

Because you're a racist.
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>>93713221
>Again, that desire for a progressive liberal with a halfway consistent worldview goes unfulfilled.
Fun fact. The guy who came up with the jim crow laws was in every way a progressive and liberal and democrat. No, this wasn't "back when republicans and democrats were the opposite!"

While before the modern conservative movement, woodrow wilson was the BIRTH of the progressive liberal movement.
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>>93713221
>This study proves police brutality is overstated.
>It says the opposite.
>No it doesn't.
>Look, it says so right here.
>No.

>Why is white identity considered racist and not black identity.
>It's the historical context they were formed in. See for example...
>Aha! I see you read (((books))).

>>93713272
>Race laws and discrimination started with Woodrow Wilson.

Come on, son.
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>>93713272
I'm not even saying that there AREN'T racist whites who preach racial superiority. The dustup started when the other racist anon equated white identity in general with Nazism.

I mean shit, no one's equating black identity with Afro-Nationalism.
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>>93713137
>>93712916
>white identity only exist to marginalize blacks
yeah you're retarded
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>>93713308
>Race laws and discrimination started with Woodrow Wilson.
No, the person who made the jim crow laws FEDERAL LAW was woodrow wilson. This isn't an opinion, this is historical fact. In point of fact, in many states the jim crow laws were going to sunset quietly and nobody was interested in reviving them. Woodrow Wilson literally was the president who passed them on a federal level.

He literally was the one responsible for introducing segregation in the work place.
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>>93713326
wait a minute...
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>>93713372
I don't really see how this is a big revelation. I don't even like Hillary Clinton. Why would I see the "Birth of a Nation is the greatest film of all time" guy as the avatar of progressive politics?
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>>93713340
How would you invoke white identity politics without invoking white supremacy?
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>>93713308
>>93713308
>>Race laws and discrimination started with Woodrow Wilson.
>Come on, son.
you really know nothing about history do you?
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>>93713308
>It's the historical context they were formed in.
Whites have been around much, much longer than the 90 some odd years slavery existed in the United States.

You also referred to a definition of white identity that existed well before Nazism, though you still insist that white identity is a bellwether for Nazism. So which one is it, again? I'm just waiting on your justification on adding qualifiers to white people being, you know, people.

Also, historical context changes. Applying 200 year old standards to modern people because it's politically convenient for your worldview is memery.
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>>93713408
>Why would I see the "Birth of a Nation is the greatest film of all time" guy as the avatar of progressive politics?

Because again, this isn't opinion:
The progressive democrat movement started with Wilson. I'm not the only one who has stated this. Obama, Clinton, even fucking bush all stated the same. All modern progressive politics stem and start at wilson.

Someone who makes Trump look like a card carrying ACLU member considering the shit he pulled.
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>>93713443
>I'm white, I live in a community of mostly white people, and we have some issues we'd like to discuss.

Gosh that was hard. It is literally impossible for you to imagine a scenario where a white person isn't a cartoon villain, isn't it?
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>>93713506
>I live in a community of mostly white people,

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>93713460
>Whites have been around much, much longer than the 90 some odd years slavery existed in the United States.
2-300 years in the Americas.

>You also referred to a definition of white identity that existed well before Nazism, though you still insist that white identity is a bellwether for Nazism.

The 14 words was just an example of white identity politics.

>Also, historical context changes.
Has the historic context changed? The modern conservative movement in America has stated over and over that they use white identity politics to form their base.

>>93713506
>we have some issues we'd like to discuss.

Name these "white issues".
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>>93712884
http://vocaroo.com/i/s17bJa2ofuny
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>>93713557
Your heroism can't be overstated.
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>>93713557
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>>93713649
>>93713557
I forgot to mention that I want to use this for a micspam in TF2. Ok with you?
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>>93713542
>Has the historic context changed?
I don't know anon. You're clearly the expert in historical context. What has changed in the 200 intervening years since slavery was abolished in the United States?

>The 14 words was just an example!
Yeah! An example of a racist hate group you lumped in with white identity. Now do the same with the black identity and Afro-Nationalism and we'll be at something approaching intellectual honesty.

>2-300 years in the Americas
Read what you just replied to. Slowly.

Why the conservative example? Curious.

>Name these "white issues."
Well, top of the list is access to decent education and rampant and persistent poverty in rural areas. There is an epidemic of drug abuse in white communities, as well.

I await your ever shifting goalposts.
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Can't we all just agree to hate the Jews?
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>>93713700
Absolutely
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>>93713708

There is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish.
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>>93713706
>What has changed in the 200 intervening years since slavery was abolished in the United States?
Black people were kept as a subclass of people, first explicitly through law, and then through more subtle forms of segregation?
>Yeah! An example of a racist hate group
...that defines itself through "white identity"
>Read what you just replied to. Slowly.
Slavery and racism existed before 1776.
>Why the conservative example? Curious.
Republicans are the reactionary arm of American politics, and have been obsessed with undoing the civil rights era for decades.
>Well, top of the list is access to decent education and rampant and persistent poverty in rural areas. There is an epidemic of drug abuse in white communities, as well.
None of these are exclusive to white people in the way police brutality or racial discrimination are to black people. Heck, a big chunk of Rural Americans are Latino and native, so their ear would perk up just as well hearing it. It goes to show how broad "white identity" becomes when it isn't explicitly tied to racial supremacy.
>>93713708
No.
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>>93713829
not him, but why do you hate whites?
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>>93713829
>Republicans are the reactionary arm of American politics, and have been obsessed with undoing the civil rights era for decades.
Actually, and, I hate to sound like a broken record here, but, the biggest obstacle to civil rights after the civil war was the jim crow laws and federally instituted segregation of workplaces. Not at all a republican invention.
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>>93699916
abbysucks
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>>93713829
>Yeah! An example of a racist hate group
>...that defines itself through "white identity"
This is a hasty generalization and guilt by association, which are related, but let me explain the mistake you made here.

You assume that because there is one racist hate group that is associated with white identity, ALL white identity is associated with racial hate.
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>enter thread expecting porn
>get political discourse
This board fucking sucks
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>>93713942
I'm not racist, some of my best friends are white.
>>93713950
Trust me, I have more than a few complaints about ~liberals~. Republicans may be reactionary, but Democrats are obsessed with retaining the flawed status quo. From welfare and police reform to eternal war in foreign countries, libs have instigated their fair share of racism.
>>93714001
It's just an example, but as far as politics goes, it's pretty hard to find a harmless ideal of white identity.
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>>93714030
Soon it will sink into the abbyss.
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>>93713829
>Black people were kept as a subclass of people, first explicitly through law, and then through more subtle forms of segregation?
Avoiding the obvious point that the historical context of 200 years ago has clearly changed. Next.
>...that defines itself through "white identity"
There's a phrase in that sentence. "Racial hate group." I suppose you equate Muslim identity with ISIS, if you're going to keep your logic consistent?
>Slavery and racism existed before 1776.
And whites were victims of it too. Your point?
>Republicans are the reactionary arm of American politics
Maybe in the last decade or two, certainly not throughout the existence of the party. For someone seemingly obsessed with "historical context" you sure do like to pick and choose the elements of history that suit you the best.

>None of these are exclusive to white people in the way police brutality or racial discrimination are to black people.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/01/white-working-class-poverty/424341/

>the groups that have been affected most viciously by these market trends in the U.S., African Americans and Latinos, have not suffered the dramatic increases in death by suicide or substance abuse that whites have.

And that's just one study. There are more. Again, your insistence that "white identity = Nazism" is proof positive of a.) your staggering historical ignorance and b.) your hatred of white people in general. Where do you get off applying qualifiers to a person being a person?
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>>93714070
>It's just an example, but as far as politics goes, it's pretty hard to find a harmless ideal of white identity.
You cannot use example to draw a conclusion though, this is what is known as hasty conclusion. The argument being made is the ideas are not, by their nature, conclusively inseparable.

The question being posed to you isn't WHAT white identity examples there are of racial hate. But rather, how white identity CAUSES racial hate. If it does not cause racial hate, then the two may correlate, but this is not a cause.
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>>93714070
>it's pretty hard to find a harmless ideal of white identity.
Especially when the well has been poisoned by racist reactionaries like yourself who equate all white people with a monolithic god of racism.
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>>93714070
I still want to know why you hate whites
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>>93714084
>There's a phrase in that sentence. "Racial hate group." I suppose you equate Muslim identity with ISIS, if you're going to keep your logic consistent?
Reactionary Islam is an example of Islamic identity politics though.
>And whites were victims of it too. Your point?
Institutionalized racism + white identity were created as a reaction to the oppression of the poor white plurality.
>Maybe in the last decade or two, certainly not throughout the existence of the party.
That's what I said:

>>93713542
>The modern conservative movement in America has stated over and over that they use white identity politics to form their base.

>the groups that have been affected most viciously by these market trends in the U.S., African Americans and Latinos, have not suffered the dramatic increases in death by suicide or substance abuse that whites have.
And how do "white identity politics" address this?
>>93714188
>>93714203
>>93714244
I kinda feel like I'm saying the same thing to the same guy over and over.
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>>93714286
>I kinda feel like I'm saying the same thing to the same guy over and over.
I'm someone else. I'm asking for why you feel white identity causes or necessitates racial hate. Not how you can show that it may or may not correlate with it.

Understand that the average temperature of every year for the past year has been increasing, and the number of pirates and ninjas has been decreasing. Concluding that one is causing the other would be foolish.

Why do you feel that white identity is inexorably linked to racial bias or hate?
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>>93714286
>Reactionary Islam is an example of Islamic identity politics though.
But you don't apply it to the general Muslim identity. You're being deliberately obtuse because you don't really have an answer to the point.
>Institutionalized racism + white identity were created as a reaction to the oppression of the poor white plurality.
Wait, are we still in pre-1776 times or post-Reconstruction? Pick which historical context from hundreds of years ago you want to apply to modern people, anon. It's getting hard to keep up with all this gaslighting.

>And how do "white identity politics" address this?
So you concede that this is an issue which disproportionately affects white communities, and therefore necessitates a solution tailored to white communities?
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>>93714286
>Reactionary Islam is an example of Islamic identity politics though.

I don't want to steer this thread off on a tangent but how you define "reactionary" islam is key here. If you mean terrorism or terrorist acts, those are largely a minority.

If you define "reactionary" Islam to be Islamic beliefs that the west views as extremely conservative, then that's actually what you might call a gross misunderstanding of the western idea of conservative and "moderate" Islam. "Moderate" Muslims, if held to the scrutiny of western standards, are extremely conservative. And that's putting it very nicely.

What you and I consider "moderate" does not exist in the Islamic faith. Conservative and moderate beliefs in Islam are, in any given context when held to a western standard are both extremely conservative.

Now if you want to talk about reactionary Islam as a source of political violence, That's a different story.
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>>93714328
The idea of all white people belonging to a unified group was something that formed in opposition to colored people. The idea that the average white man would relate more to Donald Trump the real estate mogul than Jamal the plumber isn't something that just appeared out of nowhere, but rather something many people worked centuries to create and maintain.
>>93714351
>But you don't apply it to the general Muslim identity.
Because Muslim identity exists outside of conflict with other religions/races. (but not completely, thus, *insertentirehistoryofreactionaryandsectarianislam*)
>Wait, are we still in pre-1776 times or post-Reconstruction? Pick which historical context from hundreds of years ago you want to apply to modern people, anon. It's getting hard to keep up with all this gaslighting.
I'm probably being memed here, but I'm carefully explaining how historic context created our modern reality.
>So you concede that this is an issue which disproportionately affects white communities, and therefore necessitates a solution tailored to white communities?
I'll be honest, I always felt like the status quo of American (especially white) society is some depressing, alienating shit, and instead of holding it up as ideal, we should criticize it immensely.
>>93714437
>Moderate muslims are reactionary too
For the record, I don't only count terrorists as reactionaries. Religious identity politics has its bright sides in history, but those are mostly exceptions. The trendy metropolitan guy who votes AKP because Erdogan's wife wears the hijab is a prick too.
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>>93714522
>The idea of all white people belonging to a unified group was something that formed in opposition to colored people.
The idea of white people belonging to a single group was a concept that predates the Jim Crow laws. Simply put, the idea of a white identity itself predates your example of a law created to oppress a racial class. Who was or wasn't a member of that group is contention. The fact that it existed prior to the Jim Crow laws, including other nations which never had them, is not.
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>>93714522
>but rather something many people worked centuries to create and maintain.

Mostly upper class liberals
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>>93714562
Primary identities before race laws and segregation mostly revolved around native cultures and religions. (French, Dutch, Catholic, Protestant, etc.)

"White" was an idea that formed in contrast to the blacks and natives they ended up sharing society with.
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>>93714522
>For the record, I don't only count terrorists as reactionaries

Then there's a bit of a misunderstanding here. You believe that modern Islamic beliefs that are conservative (to us) were reactionary to oppression.
Rather, modern conservative Islam as we know it and most Islam's tenant have not changed and what you view as radical or reactionary is in fact, just Muslims practicing their faith.

Of course that gets far more complicated when you look at places like Iran where that modern conservative belief was instituted by the CIA; specifically Iran as a nation before and after the CIA installed the Iatolla as the leader of that nation. Comparing the nation before and after this event is pretty night and day.
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>>93714522
>Because Muslim identity exists outside of conflict with other religions/races.
But it very clearly doesn't, as you admit. So why wouldn't you apply the "General identity = racist/fascist" identity?
>I'm probably being memed here, but I'm carefully explaining how historic context created our modern reality.
You aren't explaining anything. You fall back on constructivist nonsense and transparently ignore individuals who ask you to carefully explain your racist belief that white personhood is synonymous with Nazism or any other form of hate. Your explanation,
>rather something many people worked centuries to create and maintain.
is a conspiracy theory, plain and simple. Who? The Jews? Is that where this is all going, or are you trolling?

>The idea that the average white man would relate more to Donald Trump the real estate mogul than Jamal the plumber
Now this is just idiotic. Donald Trump was a Presidential candidate. He did what any Presidential candidate did - appeal to his constituents.

There were black Republicans running in recent races, Herman Cain comes to mind, who achieved majority votes in primary elections by holding the same ideals as Trump, at least outwardly.

I'll just repeat my last point: you concede that there are problems which disproportionately affect the white community and which require solutions tailored to the white community

You concede, due to failing utterly to produce a single coherent example, that "white identity" does not encourage racist hatred any more than black or Muslim identity.
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>>93710452
>they shouldn't participate in a way that actively antagonizes or stresses out other attendees.
see:
>>93708317
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>>93714608

>"White" was an idea that formed in contrast to the blacks and natives they ended up sharing society with.
Somewhat true. The concept of a "white man" didn't exist until the "white man" became aware of people who WEREN'T. After greater european exploration and exposure to the race as a whole, the need to distinguish a difference arose, and indeed began to arise.

This of course predates the jim crow laws by at least 100 years.
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>>93714795
All throughout history, from the creation of the planter class, to the code noir, to even stuff like the Southern Strategy in modern times, the purpose of the idea of white identity was stated over and over.
>>93714834
It's not like white people were just unaware of non-white people until the 16th century.
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>>93714865
And that purpose is?
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>>93714926
Maintaining white solidarity at the expense of minorities and the poor. The same idea that convinced poor sharecroppers to fight for the rights of wealthy planters to own people convinces people today that their problems are caused by Arabs, Mexicans, and Blacks, instead of the interests of people with money and power.
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>>93714865
>It's not like white people were just unaware of non-white people until the 16th century.
right, and so they referred to themselves as white as a way to distinguish themselves from people who they saw as different.

This is a normal human brain function; to recognize patterns and segregate them into different parts of the brain. It's something humans are so good at we often find patterns where there aren't any or exist only to us.

But the idea of the "white man" predates the jim crow laws once humans began to do what humans do and form patterns in their heads. However real or imagined is a completely different topic I'd rather not get into.

The concept of a white identity, though, is unfortunately far less spectacular than you think. As I said. It's simple humans doing what our brain does. Not an argument in favor or against it, but, it's there and it's not going away. Recognizing patterns as humans to such a fine, excruciating attention to detail helped us evolve and move forward above other animals. It's an important part of what makes humans human and without it we'd be extremely hurt logically.

Finding patterns is what allows us to start seeing a connection between seemingly random events and understanding what makes them happen. Recognizing the pattern for why or how fires start allowed us to harness fire. Recognizing the pattern for how or why electrons move allowed us to harness electricity. Recognizing these patterns is what enables us to learn that everything that happens isn't just random events but driven by greater laws of nature which connect them rather than no reason at all.
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>>93714865
>planter class
Those who owned plantations, accounting for a privileged fraction of white people as a whole and in no way indicative of white identity. It's like saying Mansa Musa or other African lords represent black identity because they are wealthy and hold social power. Next.

>Code Noir
You're of course referring to the document which objectively harmed Jews in French colonies more than blacks, who actually saw their lot improved under the conditions it imposed?

>Southern Strategy
Again, focusing on a single locale and culture as indicative of the entire white race.

You just googled some random shit tangentially related to racial politics without reading anything relating to them, didn't you?
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>>93714997
Are you arguing that racism is a natural outcome?
>>93715033
>Those who owned plantations, accounting for a privileged fraction of white people as a whole and in no way indicative of white identity.
That's exactly my argument. They wanted poor white people from diverse backgrounds to relate to them more than poor black people.
>objectively harmed Jews in French colonies more than blacks, who actually saw their lot improved under the conditions it imposed?
woah wtf
>Again, focusing on a single locale and culture as indicative of the entire white race.
It was one thing at the end of a long string of historic examples.
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>>93714977
So maintaining white solidarity without any of those others things would be a good thing, right?
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>>93715110
>Positive reaffirmation of white identity
>beloved by all white people

The only thing that comes to mind is the 1990s sitcom Frasier.
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>>93715059
>Are you arguing that racism is a natural outcome?
Humans seeing patterns. Seeing things as related (even when not) is a very normal biological thing.

Sometimes we see patterns where there are none. For example if someone were to begin having negative experiences with one race or another, they may associate negative experiences with that race, leading to a racial bias. This function can be best described as, "a pattern where there may not be one." It's entirely possible that it's coincidence, but the human brain will regardless begin to create and see a pattern and it will reinforce this by either consciously or unconsciously by ignoring positive experiences with that race or making no effort to remember them. Instead making sure the individual is reinforced in their prejudices rather than understanding that there is no pattern; since the brain can stubbornly refuse to ignore a false positive in this case.

The short answer is, as we understand it, the brain makes such a thing very easy. But I can't conclusively say.
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>>93715059
>That's exactly my argument.
And it's a shitty argument. They don't represent white identity.
>woah wtf
Code Noir made it illegal for Jews to live in French colonies while making it easier for freed slaves to obtain education and work. Maybe read the things you reference.
>It was one thing at the end of a long string of historic examples.
I'm still confused why you're married to the history angle. Historical context matters in one area - history. Drawing parallels between a society from 400 years in the past and what it looks like in its present state can be interesting from a cultural standpoint, but you're applying the cultural standards and norms from centuries past to individuals living in the modern day. By focusing on such a limited area of history you ignore the interim, which,you know, changes the entire context you're so autistic about containing.
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>>93715172
Seinfeld, if you segregate the jewish religion from the ethnicity.

...There's a fun Seinfeld episode that reminds me of by the way with Bryan Cranston.
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>>93715172
>Positive reaffirmation of white identity
Yeah, kind of like positive reaffirmations of other identities.

Things like, "It's ok to be white. You're not a racist because you breathe. You can go to college and in places without being an invader. It's alright to celebrate your native culture, it isn't offensive."
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>>93715345
>Constantly telling thread that most white people aren't racist and white racism is a conspiracy formed in part to keep white people from recognizing their own oppression.

I don't know if they have stuff like Polish newspapers and Russian TV channels where you live, but there's tons of positive examples of white identity that don't try to group very different people together under the banner of "Not Niggers".
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>>93715423
>White identity = Not Black, and that's bad.

>Black identity = Not White, and that's fine.

This is the argument you've spent two hours dancing around. You have not provided any substantive claim that answers why one is ok and the other isn't. I also see you dropped the asinine historical context thing. I'll take that as progress.
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>>93715592
Nah, you just ignored all evidence and examples to whine about White Entertainment Networks and phantom SJWs.
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This thread once again proves /co/ > /pol/ for politics
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>>93715667
>Historical context never changes and America in 2017 is exactly the same as America in 1776
That's not evidence, though.That's an idiotic constructivist argument, the only one you've made. Context is not limited, you great fucking idiot. You can't say that historical context is only limited to the things that prove your point.

But you've already conceded. Good luck with life, you'll definitely need it with that autism working against you.
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>>93715735
>Things that happened before and are the foundations of modern society don't influence what happens now.

Imagine thinking history doesn't matter. Imagine being an idpol reactionary who's mad online.
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>>93715172
>Not Family Matters
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>>93715826
But anon, the things that founded modern society acted specifically in opposition to the things that founded the original, primitive society.

>Greentexts because he doesn't understand what "context" means.
>Can't answer one question without "muh context"
>Can't provide a single, logically coherent point to the numerous anons who politely asked him too.
>Lives his live believing he is the sole determiner of what reality is, and that the history he reads is divinely inspired instead of a political, social, and cultural construction, despite his insistence on that belief in other areas of society.

Shine on, you crazy diamond. Shine on.
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