Maybe black comics would sell if they all weren't vindictive

>>93673188
From Priest's Black Panther FAQ

>The problem with race and popular media is this in most every "black" movie or "black street" music CD you'll see or hear, there is some hostility directed towards whites. Now, were I a white male, I certainly wouldn't want to spend 8 bucks to go see a film where white males are portrayed as stupid and the butt of every joke, or where I am made to feel guilty about things I had nothing to do with, and prejudices I don't actually have.

>That is my pet peeve with a lot of black film and black comedians it's all White People Bashing, and it limits our opportunities. In addition to the assumption that PANTHER may be about dusty hungry kids in the desert, or that the lead character may not be someone the reader can identify with, it is possible we are also burdened with the reflexive instinct that PANTHER— by virtue of its being a "black" book— is somehow hostile to whites.

>>93673523
Balck Panther sells relatively well. A good B-lister

>>93673566
He didn't sell well when Priest was writing him because before Priest he was a jobber and literally who c-list character.

He got popular because of Priest.

He sells now because he has a movie coming out and Marvel hyped the shit out of the book but even then all of that couldn't save Coate's BP and the crew comic.

>>93673523
Guy sounds like an Uncle Tom. That isn't even remotely true for most of black media. It's not our job to make white people feel comfortable around us.

Calling things for what they are isn't bashing whites. Are we supposed to pretend blacks dont deal with racism constantly? Are we supposed to pretend whites didn't and still dont do everything in their power to sabotage and destroy black success? It's good white people want to sweep that under the rug and they're uncomfortable by it because it shows progress is happening.

>>93673566
More like a "C"-lister.

(The "C" stands for cancelled)

>>93673523
Surprisingly intelligent, articulate, and understanding point of view.

Normally they just double down on the
>YOUS RACIST WHITEBOIII

>>93673523
He's pretty woke.

It also speaks to the deficiencies of blacks when they so often define themselves by their hatred of whites. When how much they hate white people is a predominant theme in most of their media it says they can't do anything themselves, like Riri they need oppression from a more accomplished people to find an identity.
That's just weak and shallow.

>>93673690
>Le Uncle Tom Maymay

Crab mentality at its finest.

>>93673690
this is bait right guys? im scared

>>93673690
You sound like someone who should never be involved in any form of "black media" whatsoever because you are a close-minded shithead.

Can't believe you are honestly calling Christopher Priest an Uncle Tom. What in the actual fuck have YOU done for the black community and its representation in the media?

>>93673690
Adding to this, art tends to be a reflection of life. If a lot of black media has hostility directed towards whites then something is clearly going on IRL.

>>93673742
Crab mentality? The dude want's to chastise black people for venting their frustrations through art.

>>93673690
>It's not our job to make white people feel comfortable around us.
>
>Calling things for what they are isn't bashing whites. Are we supposed to pretend blacks dont deal with racism constantly? Are we supposed to pretend whites didn't and still dont do everything in their power to sabotage and destroy black success? It's good white people want to sweep that under the rug and they're uncomfortable by it because it shows progress is happening.

Sure, but as Priest said, don't be surprised when the book gets canceled or nobody watches or reads that media. Unless blacks start supporting their own media it won't sell. Whites don't want the guilt trip, regardless of how well deserved you think it might be. ou gotta decide, do you want to push and agenda or do you want to be successful?
Do you want to 'stay woke' or do you actually want people to read your shit?

>>93673690

It's weird how the phrase "Uncle Tom" has become so ubiquitous for meaning something that the original character did not.

>>93673690
are you just looking for a (you) on priest's website?

>>93673799
>Gentle advice
>"Chastise"

Come on now. Don't tell me you're skin is that thin.

>>93673799
Fighting fire with fire is retarded. You don't want to fix shit at all. You are just as bad as the Neo Nazi rednecks.

>>93673797
Telling blacks "hey temper yourselves so you dont scare white people off" is some Uncle Tom shit. I have no problem with whites but I'm sick of being told to behave around whites. What do I do for the black community? I volunteer constantly in poor black neighborhoods and support black owned businesses.

>>93673523
BASED Priest

I'm currently reading his Black Panther run. It gives me an Arrested Development vibe by reading it in Ross' point of view.

>>93673799
>The dude want's to chastise black people for venting their frustrations through art.

They are free to do that, just like people with the most buying power in comics (white males) have a right to not purchase that art, leading to your woke message being canceled.

Typical racist blacks, 'we make media calling you racist, you refuse to buy it because who wants to hear that shit, we call you racist for not buying it.'
Their message is 'you have to listen to and face how racist we think you are no matter what.'
Fuck that, voting with my wallet.

>>93673816
You are basically saying either create honest media and art or cater to the masses and sell out.

Most good art has an agenda beyond just success and money which is what connects it to the audience that wants that particular kind of art.

I'm not black or white but
>>93673857
>behave around whites
What exactly does this entail?

>>93673849
Fighitng with fire would imply I'm making art with the subject of "kill whitey!" which 99% of black media isn't. However if I do write a story where a white cop punches a black character in the face for correcting him(which has happened to me) then that isn't an attack on whites. If they're uncomfortable by the subject matter then that's good because nothing is going to get changed if we keep sweeping stuff like that under the rug.

300 posts later...

>>93673918
You are certainly free to write said story, but you are NOT allowed to bitch if nobody buys it.

However, I feel we're getting away from the core issue here. And the issue is that Coates' BP was just fucking BORING. Holy shit so goddamn boring. That motherfucker probably shouldn't write comics. He's not very good at it. The virtue signaling didn't help, but it was a far cry from the book's core problem.

>>93673857
>Telling blacks "hey temper yourselves so you dont scare white people off" is some Uncle Tom shit.
I took it as more of a "people should attempt to not alienate any specific group with their work, especially if they want to market to said group" than a "censor yourselves" but fair enough, I see where you are coming from.
.

>>93673817
Black people don't read

>>93673523
Priest is so cool

>>93673690
lol but a white can't poke fun at a black

>>93673918
I don't know man, I'm not "uncomfortable" with stories that show white people as racist or whatever, I'm just tired of it. I'm just tired of the "Oh white people are so racist and we are such victims" narrative that is so dominating in black media, I mean, if all you want to do is jerk off about how much of a victim you are, that's great, I'm just going to roll my eyes and read/watch something else.

>>93673918
>"kill whitey!"

If only.

The bristling and discomfort is just great. White guilt sustains me.

>>93673857
You should behave yourself around everyone, you dumb nignog.

>>93673918
Priest isn't talking about that though, he's talking about generalizing.

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>>93673934
I was behind it all! This entire thread! Me!

LEX.

LUTHOR.

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>>93673188
>comics
>selling
Good one.

>>93673891

Sure, yes, definetly... but..

1) Superhero comics is not the place to do that.
&
2) Theres a difference between writing something with an agenda in the back of your mind, and writing something that stuffs the message down the readers throat.

>>93673956
What virtue signaling? Did he write an unpopular opinion?

That said I like the book overall, but it is very slow. My favorite parts were the debates the characters had with each other over the nature of Wakanda and how they fit into it. It wasn't very bombastic, but it interested me the most.

>>93673669
Priest himself credited Hudlin for the popularization of the character and of his run, retroactively.

>>93673991

>White guilt sustains me.

Emotionally or economically?

Every time someone depicts a rational black person some nigga has to pull out the Uncle Tom nametag because he doesnt want to admit hes part of a shit community

>>93673956
I thought the first few issues were interesting, but he really can't pace for the monthly format. I liked his setup and worldbuilding, but he just couldn't stick with it.

>>93673731
What other identity do they have? Slavery pretty much destroyed their roots and left them stuck in a position of complete social and economic inferiority in a world they never made. It only makes sense that they started to define their own identities by relating them to white people.

Of course, coming to that conclusion would require empathy for black people which you clearly do not have.

>>93673857
>behave around whites
Yep, it's a nigger alright.

Whenever I stumble upon a thread like this I always get the impression that everyone is trying really hard not to outright say they hate black people and start calling them niggers.

>>93673188
They're obviously targeting black/woke consumers. Unfortunately, no one anticipated that most comic store owners chase black people out on site while waving a Glock and shouting Glenn Beck talking points.

Seriously it's really common look it up.

>>93673973
nigga fuck you

>>93674049
Your conclusion doesn't even remotely follow from your premise.

>>93674078
Well, can you blame us for faggots like >>93673690?

>>93673989
And that is totally cool, I understand it's not your thing I just dont want to be told that I shouldn't write about those subjects. Artists dont want to be told their ideas are too much for the audience.

>>93674013
I don't mean Coates specifically. He's a measured and intelligent individual, but comics are clearly not his thing. I mean more the general Internet bitching over its cancellation being held up as some example of racism in media. We really shouldn't fan the flames of that here. Just a dull book getting discontinued because it didn't sell. Nothing more.

>>93674100
>too much
kek

Dont you love it when news stations talk about African Americans in other countries when they're neither African nor American depending on the area?

>>93674049
This is mostly true, but the bit about slavery isn't correct.

It was actually the social welfare policies of the 20th and 21st centuries that created the racial wealth gap. Just so we're clear that it wasn't a distant relative that did this shit but /co/'s momma and papa and maybe anon himself depending on how he votes.

>>93674025
priest, himself, said he only read hudlin's first issue.

>>93673690
>Are we supposed to pretend whites didn't and still dont do everything in their power to sabotage and destroy black success?

>black president
>black government officials
>black CEOs
>black media moguls
>black athletes
>WE WUZ OPPRESSION
Unless you're old enough to remember Jim Crow, no one is holding you back from success.

>>93674135
You don't have to read the issues to see they are selling. Priest went far to have more sales and didn't manage to. Hudlin did.

>>93674087
Not OP but you're gonna have to explain how? If, hypothetically, I'm raised by wolves, never meeting humans- Wouldn't I adopt wolf cultural traits?

>>93674129
Black people oppressed black people.

>>93674007
I don't see why superhero comics are less viable as a place to do it as opposed to paintings or books. From a business perspective sure, that's a good argument as you want to have mass appeal and trim the edges off stuff, but from an artistic viewpoint it seems as ripe as any canvas for any kind of message or experimentation.

Whether something stuffs something down your throat or not depends on the skill of the writer and the receptiveness of the audience. A skilled writer can be subtle or approach the material differently, but if the audience isn't open to the message to some degree it will still fail. On the other hand you can have the message on the sleeve of the work (like Transmepolitian) which wasn't very subtle but still managed to reach the audience with it's message.

My point is the core message will be the exact same and it's vehicle is situational. No matter how you approach it and no writing style will deliver it perfectly to everyone.

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Well it's pretty obvious that race relations are at an all time low in the states. People are pretty agitated at each other to say the least. And truth be told, it's a deep and complicated issue that's been brewing for a LONG time. Although I partially blame mainstream media for perpetuating the divide and stoaking the fires. While it's important to discuss the issues at hand I think it's a bit, unnecessary to cram it into EVERY piece of media we have these days. Maybe this is my stupid opinion but I wish there were more positive relations depicted between black and white people in media. It doesn't even have to be political, just simple buddy kinda stuff. People are getting extremely paranoid these days and it's going to spill over soon if everyone doesn't calm the fuck down.

>>93673893
Micro stuff that grates on you after a while. Speak with a softer voice, dont dress like this, style your hair this way, etc etc. I'm a college aged male and I have a way I want to act. I already see /pol/acks interpreting this as me wanting to act like a hoodrat but that is far from it(I've actually been called an oreo many times). It's like telling a brown man to not wear certain clothes and shave his beard when he gets on a flight so he doesn't scare white people.I understand different contexts call for different ways to present yourself but as a black man I feel I have to be in job interview mode when I'm around whites no matter what.

I always like to compare Obama and Trump when I talk about how whites and blacks are held to different sociological standards. Obama would have been impeached by now if he did and said half the shit Trump did.

Either way we're getting away from the genesis of the argument. And I dont want to derail the thread.

>>93674104
Are we talking about BP or it's spinoffs. I know they got cancelled but assumed the main book is sill going as it has around 30,000 sales as of april.

>>93674087
How?

Imagine for an instant that you are a black person recently liberated from the shackles of slavery. Though you are technically free, you are still in a disadvantageous position. You lack civil rights, economic security or even a unified culture. You're still closed out of most jobs and positions because of lingering racist sentiments. You don't feel safe in this strange, foreign country which you are supposedly a citizen of regardless of the fact that you've been told you belong here now and all around you you see white people prospering happily despite all the atrocities they've enforced on your people. Naturally, you're going to develop a kind of resentment for these people. Hell, you've developed a resentment for black people because they say mean things about you on the internet and TV. When you think about it, black people only got equal rights fairly recently and are still feeling the economical and social aftershocks of their disenfranchisement in some pockets today. Black/White relations are in a better place now than ever before and they'll only improve more as people realise that we're really not that different and black people pull themselves further out of the position slavery left them in. You can't expect every single black person to just roll over and get over it, especially when there are still plenty of examples of inequity present in this day and age. Wounds don't just heal instantly because you want them to.

>>93674205
>Well it's pretty obvious that race relations are at an all time low in the states.
What the KKK is lynching again? I thought Superman ruined there rep good.

>>93674100
Sure, I think people should be able to make what they want to appeal to whatever audience they want. I can just as easily not see something if it doesn't interest me.

My biggest gripe with the whole black media is just the lack of I don't know exactly the right word here, variety? I think it would be interesting to see how different themes and genres are represented, like sci-fi or fantasy through a black lens. Like I know there is some variety but I would like to see more stuff explored, but equally if that's not what people want to make, that's fine by me.

>>93674205
>All time low

lol

>>93674153
>It took 43 Presidents before
>There are a few
>There are a few
>They overlap with the majority of CEOs, so a few
>That's what selective breeding will do for ya
>What is the Atlantic Slave Trade?
cmon bro, you've got half a leg to stand on

Oh boy, another black people thread.

Has anyone stated that white people have literally never done anything wrong and black people are to blame for everything including slavery and systemic oppression yet?

>>93673799
>The dude want's to chastise black people for venting their frustrations through art.
>LMAO FUCK WHITE PEOPLE WE WUZ KANGZ PAY US WHITEY YOU OWE US WE MADE EVERYTHING
>y u wyte people not buying our books/watching our movies?

>>93674129
>>93674201
You can argue that, but it's not like the community wasn't occasionally sabotaged.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa

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>>93674213
Those are social norms everyone has to conform to, dumbass.

>Black people aren't allowed to still be sore about slavery and racism
>White people are perfectly entitled to openly hate black people because they made them feel bad by saying things they didn't like

>>93674153
It's that racist ass nigga on cbr who shits on every white person. He read that stupid fucking NightHawk trash.

He should pull his pants up and stop generazling white people.

>>93674153
>"Hey a small percentage of blacks achieved success. They didn't have to face any obstacles at all due to the color of their skin and that means racism is offically over you fucking nigger!"

For fucks sake are you even old enough to remember the Birther Movement against Obama?

>>93674305
>>White people are perfectly entitled to openly hate black people because they made them feel bad by saying things they didn't like
Only on /pol/

.....This seems relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4A1haySbx8

Every non white hates back people because they are the quintessential privileged class. Welfare, media, whites, and the government caters to their whims and ignores everyone else. And yet they're literally the biggest failures in America s a group. Despite most of them starting out with more than the Latinos, Asians, and he'll even actually Africans.

The only people who tolerates them is whitey because of guilt.

T. First when immigrant

>>93674321
These types of arguments usually work by closing your eyes, clogging your ears and shouting "LALALALALA" over any evidence that white people aren't constantly skipping around the ghetto handing millions to any black person they encounter.

>>93673857
That is the type of shitty attitude indicative of your race. Look at us Asians. My parents came here as refugees. They had nothing but the clothes on their backs. They may have worked shitty factory jobs for white bosses, but today, I am renting out rooms for white people that want my apartments. One generation. That's all it took. You fuckers have been here for 5 to 6 generations and you're still on welfare crying about oppression of your shitty culture and mentality. You got to work with white people you stupid nigger. Part of being civilized is making people feel comfortable around each other. I don't have to make sure that white couple renting from me is comfortable around me, but I do it because it's fucking common decency. Something you fucking niggers have not learned since you were in chains.

>>93674164
didn't marvel push hudlin's run a lot more? not to mention adding storm to the series

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>>93673690
>I KEEP IT REAL YO
>IT AIN'T MY JOB TO TREAT OTHERS HOW I WANNA BE TREATED

Holy shit I hope a cop bashes your skull like a fucking walnut

>>93674321
Are you old enough to remember that Obama was democratically elected by popular vote? Obviously racists have power in America.

>>93674321
That's because he was a Democrat with a foreign sounding name.

>>93674354
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

>>93674302
Having to conform to a social norm based on the color of your skin isn't right. Especially if white person can get away with doing something I would go down for.

Again if Obama had multiple divorces and multiple baby mamas like Trump, you'd be on /pol/ memeing about how all black men are deadbeats.

>>93674389
>Literally using the "Obama was president, racism doesn't exist anymore" argument

>>93674302
>Trump: Sometimes you gotta grab em by the pussy
>White Women: Hey what he says in his personal life is totally different than what goes on in his professional life!!

>Obama: Sometimes you gotta grab em by the pussy
>White Women: That fucking rapist nigger going to run my country? over my dead body!

>>93674447
Well, statistically blacks rape more, so it's not a huge mental leap.

>>93674305
I'm Irish. My grandfather, as in my mother's father, is missing a hand for being accused of stealing and because he was a filthy Mick he got a hand taken from him after facing "mob justice." His father shoveled shit for about ten cents for every 20 pounds, whereas every nigger around him got about five times. HIS father didn't even get paid, he got to live in a hot as fuck shack where if he wasn't putting in as much work as his black "co-workers" his got shit kicked in by his English owner's lackeys. His brother died after he got caught fucking some other slave, a
black girl, and was beaten into a coma. The kid that came from their fucking starved to death because no one wanted a Redleg working for them. Irish blood would devalue a black slave. My mother raised me basically on her own because my father bailed. I live in a highly Italian area in New England where there's still massive prejudice about Irish-Americans.

Never for a second in my life have I ever bitched to any non-Irish person about it, nor have I ever acted like I was owed reparations.

What excuse do you have?

>>93674389
Okay man I'm not trying to turn this into a big policial thing but don't act as if the shit going on in 2017 and how hard uh certain people are acting in Washington isn't a direct response to Obama and what he did.

>>93674406
>Especially if white person can get away with doing something I would go down for.

I'm pretty sure if a white guy robbed a gas station a punched a police officer he would be subject to the same penalties.

Thing is, roughly all of robberies these days are committed by black people so there's not a lot of white examples to go on.

>>93674425
Racism exists. It's just irrelevant. No one is systematically oppressed is Western society.
>>93674447
>making up a fantasy scenario to be angry over
Anon, what are you doing?

>>93674406

I don't know about you but Bill Clinton was constantly being shit on by the public for his escapades, he was the butt of jokes during his presidency.

>>93674483
They do, that's why more whites get shot by cops.

>>93674394
It's not. Go to any immigrant community and they hate African Americans. He'll, go to a college with a African student. They hate American blacks.

>>93674078
>Trying
Anon, these type of threads are usually occupied with anons being outright about their hatred of black people.

>>93674519
>They hate American blacks.
Black Africans hate black Americans, black Europeans, black everything. Hell they hate other Black Africans.

>>93674406
>Again if Obama had multiple divorces and multiple baby mamas like Trump
He would actually be fun to make fun of, he was the most boring President in that regard.

>>93674201
Nah nigga.

>>93674363
>Asians
>The most disrespected race in the country
>Known for being eager to cuck up to white people

Also Shin if you could see through those slant eyes of yours then you may have been able to read a history book and learn that your parents didn't endure half the shit Blacks endured in this country. No shit all it took was one generation for your family to own a shitty motel. Your parents didn't deal with Jim Crow and the countless other atrocities African Americans had committed against them.

>>93674478
>isn't a direct response to Obama and what he did.
Tbh you're really going to have to explain the mental gymnastics of this statement because I can't even comprehend what the fuck you mean.

>>93674501
The only thing fantastical about the scenario is Obama saying he grabs pussy. The three other lines have all actually happened.

>>93674525
But the bitter nigger ITT huffing about how whitey is keeping him down is fine, right?

>>93674547
I'm black-Canadian retard. Blacks sold blacks to whites.

Now go on bitch about all white men are about to oppress your failure ass in 2017.

>>93674235
I'd say you'd be better off thematically linking this argument to the crack wars than slavery. African-American cultural identity coalesced during the Great Migration and Harlem Renaissance and survived more or less intact until the 80s. Once cops rounding up anyone they could find in the name of "tough on crime" was when you saw the real destruction of the family/community roots of culture, further compounded by the simultaneous commercialization and denigration of black culture, particularly the urban poor, in mainstream consciousness.

>This thread again

Is there any point in any black person getting involved? These people don't really care about your opinions or your viewpoints. They don't want you to make counterarguments or appeal to their sense of empathy. They just want to vent about how much they hate black people and circlejerk about how they're worthless subhumans without interference. Any attempt to get in the way of that goal will be met with appropriate levels of hostility and stubbornness.

Just hide the thread and stop feeding them opportunities to start quoting statistics and saying "see, this is why nobody likes black people".

You'll live longer.

>>93673523
>Whites are too blame for not reading the book because they look at the black characters and think that it will bash white people.
So you're blaming white people for being afraid of being blamed for things? Talk about mental gymnastics.

>>93674501
>No one is systematically oppressed is Western society.
You can ask Wells Fargo how well that argument worked for them.

>>93674593
Kinda, yeah.

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>>93673690
>It's not our job to make white people feel comfortable around us.
It's not white people's job to make blacks feel comfortable around them either, but we're supposed to now according to blacks.
Are we supposed to pretend blacks dont deal with racism constantly? Are we supposed to pretend whites didn't and still dont do everything in their power to sabotage and destroy black success?
You're entitled to every opportunity and luxury white people are privy to according to the law. Nobody is diverting time and resources to fuck with you because of your skin color.

Chances are if somebody calls you a nigger it's not because of your melanin but because you're an obnoxious presumptive dick cheese like you're being right now.

>>93674202
Your book failed, Coates.

And fuck you for writing about how you enjoyed the trade towers going down you piece of shit.

>>93674577
There was literally a giant feminist march against Trump for his comments regarding women. No one is defending what he said except cherry picked outliers that you can conveniently use to justify the chip on your shoulder.

>>93674560
Typical racist black shitting on asians. You DESERVE to be oppressed.

Truly there is no group more oppressed than white men who keep getting reminded of racism and slavery.

>>93673188
Why does the warrior prince of a technologically advanced and adamantly isolationist foreign kingdom across the Atlantic care about the lives of American urban blacks?

>>93674515
Well then why are you complaining?

>>93674619
>Wells Fargo
All I can find is they committed fraud

>>93674467
Except they don't.

>>93674608
I'm here for the ass-rage. It actually sustains me emotionally.

>>93674634
>Trump is actually the 45th president of the United States and "leader of the free world"
>I have a chip on my shoulder tho

>>93674670
m8 you know you can pull up an FBI statistic in like 5 minutes, right? You really want to commit to that claim?

>>93673188
Naahh Marvel cannibalized the shit outta their Black Panther readership launching 3 books in 2 years.

Had they done nothing if chosen to double ship BP it would have been better.

But these shitheads a success and fucking flood the market.

It's Deadpool from 2010 when he had 4 fucking books

>>93674640
>You DESERVE to be oppressed.
You would have come to this conclusion regardless of whether or not he responded negatively to your post.

Seriously, you guys, stop pretending you're being cajoled into hating black people. You were going to hate them anyway. Any "justification" is just an excuse to paint yourselves as morally righteous victims who are being bullied into hatred by those mean ol' blacks.

>>93674640
Akio you came at me first with some real hostile racism. If you can't handle it then dont dish it out. Your post was fucking retarded too. I can't believe you unironically typed all that shit out.

>>93674560
I'd say that being rounded up in concentration camps during WWII does count as disrespected.

>>93673523
I mean there are 246,000,000 White People in this country.

It's larger market to sell to.

>>93674302
You would lose your mind if you had to deal with the same identity/persona delta I have to as a gay black man.

>>93674692
Yeah you do as you apparently think Trump being president is a racist conspiracy.

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>>93674643
read it and find out, true believer! you won't believe what happens next.

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>it's a "/co/ LARPs as black people" episode

As expected of Redwood's personal fellatio specialists

>>93674515
>I don't understand how statistics work: the post

>>93674720
Huh? Isn't Hillary white and rich as well?

>>93674643
This Anon is posing the real questions, why is T'Challa working the streets of NY?

>>93674627
>Chances are if somebody calls you a nigger it's not because of your melanin but because you're an obnoxious presumptive dick cheese like you're being right now.

Jesus Christ, why are you even engaging these people. They're literally trying to argue that anyone who calls you a nigger is entirely justified in doing so because you're to blame.

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>>93674714
>a gay black man
Jesus Christ, /co/mblr is real. That's it, I'm done with this thread. Goodnight.

>>93674643
Some writers like to use Black Panther as a mouth piece for their views on Race Relations in America. It's a shame because with the vast amount of technology and instability in Africa, Black Panther can go full cyberpunk

>>93674711
Do you really want to have this argument right now? Do you want to argue that Japanese Interment Camps during a war can be compared to everything African Americans were subject to?

Because I dont want to have this stupid argument.

>>93674601
The entire point of my post was the you don't even have to consider slavery to talk about how shitty black people have been treated in America.
>Canadian
Then why the fuck are you even talking?

>>93674765
>people say mean things under the veil of anonymity
Welcome to 4chan, faggot. Now kill yourself.

>>93674765
Why would someone call me a nasty name if I hadn't done something they perceived as wrong? Do you seriously believe people go around spouting obscenity in real life in public without context?

Life isn't the internet go outside

>>93674608
It's worth it to remind them that they're wrong, even if they won't admit it consciously. The seed sticks in their minds.

>It's another white guys complain about how hypersensitive black people are while simultaneously painting themselves as victims of oppression because black people keep hurting their feelings on the internet

>>93674696
There's that BLACK PEOPLE want to be hated. If you can't fucking see that, then you are dense.

You are giving people reasons to be racist towards you, to be afraid of black man.

Personally I hope all of you fucking retarded Americans kill each other off.

>>93674763
There's a lack of Black Superheroes in NY, and Panther seems much more respectable than Classic Luke Cage.

>>93673788

Sadly, I doubt it. See >>93673742

I'm from Detroit, and lately I've taken to listening to this "urban" talk radio station: 910am. It's pretty eye-opening; there is just outright hostility toward white people.

Every once in a while, they'll have a guest on (I've never heard them interview a white person, I have heard my old boss get interviewed though about a youth program he was running), and the guest will say something about how whites are not at fault and the black community needs to support themselves and bring themselves up and the host will shoot the guest down.

So yeah, I get what Priest is saying, Sadly, I have never found the Black Panther interesting.

>>93674765
I know it's useless. Then they'll turn around and bitch about black people bitching about racism because racism is totally over and we're all equal.

Last time got called a nigger was by some stupid white bitch who didn't realize I had the right of way at a 4 way intersection. But hey I deserved it for adhering to traffic laws.

>>93674668
Right. Systematically. Against black people.

>>93674822
>Why would someone call me a nasty name if I hadn't done something they perceived as wrong?
Do you immediately assume in any scenario that you're the one to blame for someone else being a dick to you?

>>93674827
Did you miss the Asian anon about a dozen posts above?

>Trump
>Actually elected due to Russian conspirators

>>93674822
Man it must be awesome being white.

>>93674714
>I would lose my mind if every white woman in the world sucked up to me
>I would lose my mind if normies were super nice to me in fear of insulting two precious minority categories at once

Oh you poor thing

>>93674693
Go ahead and post them :^)

>>93674793
Shoots you.

>>93674873
Oh my god. You actually believe that too, don't you?

>>93674855
Sorry, I forgot

>and then an Asian/Hispanic/White guy pretending to be either comes in and makes the same "I'm not white and BLACK PEOPLE ARE FUCKING GARBAGE HOLY SHIT I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM PLEASE LOVE ME" post we've seen a million times before in similar threads

>>93674190
Blacks aren't typically raised by whites, so your example doesn't make sense.

It would be more like being raised by wolves, and adopting the culture of wombats.

>>93674904
US is only 60% white anon, we aren't faking.

>>93674855
>it's a white people RP as successful Asians/self-hating blacks thread

>>93674894
>Have a degree
>Have an impeccable record
>Both parents are lawyers
>One of them is a high ranking military serviceman
Have fun bucking the statistics in prison.

>>93674904
It's funny how Asians are so ready to throw Blacks under the bus to gain favor of Whites. They are literally the Starscream of the races.

Then they want to turn around a reap every benefit for minorities that the Black man fought for.

>>93674873
It's funny that you guys try to argue that black people have warped perceptions of how the world works when you genuinely believe that this is the be all and end all of being a minority when you yourself are openly hating minorities.

>>93674792
What the Japanese didn't undergo in the USA, they had to deal with in Japan, which wasn't an all too nice place to live before or after the Meiji Restoration.

>>93674241
When is the last time that's happened anywhere, as opposed to your daily basketball American mass shooting?

>>93674560
Fucking excuses so typical of niggers. Get over that shit bitch, it didnt happen to you. Instead of crying about my parents being treated unfairly, I got an education and started a business. I make sure they live comfortably going though what they did for me. Something you monkeys will never understand. This is why your people will still be fatherless and fucking begging for money generations from now. You don't get it. You think it's a disrespect to somehow find compromise and mutual understanding. Somehow you've convinced yourself that your race is respected because of your shitty attitude, but in reality, niggers are the most hated and disrespected race in America.

Somebody just post the Kelly comic already

>>93674935
It's funny how blacks take credit for everything that other people do.

>>93674935
>Implying all minorities have to like each other because they are minorities.
That's a bit bigoted there anon.

>>93674930
So you saying what I'm doing doesn't happen to blacks? Glad you agree that you just want to bitch.

>>93674935
>non-white races aren't the big happy hivemind liberals like pretend they are
Who knew?

>>93674853
Yes. Nobody is simply a dick to another person for no reason unless they're an edgy teenager and/or socially defective. If a guy yelled "HEY FAGGOT" at me I would assume he had a problem with something I did.

>>93674871
It's not. I have to pay for college instead of going to Morehouse for free thanks to my skin tone. Also I have to pay tax dollars to keep your brother alive in the hospital after his next drive-by shooting.

>>93674935
Everyone hates blacks. The Latino gangs are actively trying to exterminate black Americans because they're shitting up they're neighborhood.

>>93673875
>Typical racist blacks, 'we make media calling you racist, you refuse to buy it because who wants to hear that shit, we call you racist for not buying it.'

These kind of people are awful and won't be satisfied with anything, here's another excerpt from Jamal Igle who created a comic called Molly Danger

>Okay, here’s my perspective such as it is: I’ve worked on black characters for major companies, I’ve worked on white characters. I’ve had black people get on my case for both. I had a woman refuse a free Superman comic for her son because she doesn’t allow him to read “those” comics. I’ve been chastised for not “supporting the cause” for creating Molly Danger. I may have been avoided at shows by black people but honestly in the end I feel like it’s their loss in the end. I think our goal long term is to appeal to the widest possible audience. However, that takes time, even with Caucasian characters. We can’t force people to support us but I also agree you should cut the lip service about there not being enough diversity in comics unless you’re willing to put your money where your mouth is.

It's from a bleedingcool article that was about black creators talking about the lack of support from black fans and it was in response to Black Stroman talking about black fans not supporting black creators.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160126102150/http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/29/asking-why-black-fans-avoid-black-creators-at-comic-cons-the-pros-speak/

>>93674945
But we're specifically talking about African Americans and the USA. It's an objective fact that Asians didn't undergo the same hardships Blacks did here. That chink up there talking about how successful his family became in one generation compared to the "5-6 generations" blacks had is a blatant example. Asians didn't have to deal with slavery and all the other civil and human rights abuses that went on for years after in this country. For fucks sake the Civil Rights Bill was only signed 53 years ago.

>>93674911
Damn, you lost me man I'm sorry. I'm assuming you're actually trying and not looking to troll me. I extrapolated my Raised By Wolves example to encompass a greater culture shifting on a macro scale. There are examples of Blacks being co-raised by Whites at a generational degree within plantations but let me create something easier to use:

Do you play RPGs? The Half-Elf race is Half Human, and Half Elf. Most Half-Elves are disowned by Elves (not important) and grow up in Human communities (is important). Generally they adopt large chunks of Human culture (Like sleeping in beds, and getting jobs, and wearing clothes made of fabrics). They possess no "Half-Elf" culture, they just own their own version of Human culture.

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>>93674979
If that's what you think I was saying, you really are an idiot.

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>>93674896
>>93674936
>Gay people suffer too gaiz

Yeah I know my friend Enrique got called a spermguzzler on Twitter yesterday.

He said he was gonna hang himself but he didn't want to ruin his highlights

>I'm not a racist but I think black people have a tendency to overexaggerate some of the lingering effects of slavery and oppression on their modern culture. I just think they should get over it and accept that racism isn't really a thing anymore.
>I'm black, and I don't really think that's true.
>OMG FUCK OFF NIGGER I'M SO SICK OF ALL YOU FUCKING NIGGERS GETTING YOUR FUCKING NIGGER BULLSHIT ALL OVER MY GLORIOUS COUNTRY DID YOU KNOW NIGGERS COMMIT 99.99999% OF ALL RAPES IN THE WORLD AND SAILED TO AMERICA TO SELL THEMSELVES INTO SLAVERY HERE'S SOME STATISTIC YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER CHRIST

It's not the racism that gets me, it's the veneer of civility and cordiality that immediately falls away the moment anyone makes a counterargument.

>>93674213
>speak with a softer voice
Don't be loud and abrasive
Well no shit. That's nothing to do with your skin color. Loud ass honkey ass rednecks are just as obnoxious and are universally disliked. It's a culture thing and, yeah, when outside of your insular community, act in a more universally accepted way. It's called manners, not racism.

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can't we all just get along?

>>93675061
Wow your strawman freaked out at the most opportune time. That's amazing! You should get into webcomics!

>>93675061
>didn't read lol: the post

And I thought marvel lacked subtlety

>>93674989
>Nobody is simply a dick to another person for no reason unless they're an edgy teenager and/or socially defective.
So you acknowledge the fact that people can be dicks to other people just because they feel like it but you're unwilling to do so without an asterisk because it would negatively impact your narrative of "black people deserve to be treated like shit and we dindu nuffin"?

>>93673523
Morgan Freeman confirming correct status.jpeg

>>93675030
>https://web.archive.org/web/20160126102150/http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/29/asking-why-black-fans-avoid-black-creators-at-comic-cons-the-pros-speak/
This is actually an interesting read, thanks anon.

>>93675061
I'm not racist, I just hate everyone.

Not being racist doesn't suddenly turn you into a humanist, you know.

>>93675083
>>93675087
Just saying. Why pretend you're open to counterarguments and different viewpoints when the immediate reaction is just going to be "nope, you're wrong, black people are cancer"

>>93674958
>Blacks are the most disrespected race in America

When was the last time a lucrative black role in Hollywood was white washed? Wheres that Asian President? That white guy who openly talked about how much he hated China did get elected though.

Face it Hideo, your race is garners no respect. You snakes only think you have it good because you cuck up to white people who dont like you deep down. You know it.

>>93673690
t liberal white

>>93674750
redwood is a fat white dude who post other peole's instagram photos

>>93675058
did he also get his ass beat because he was in the wrong neighborhood? Cause i've seen that fucking happen. If you think gay people don't have to deal with getting beaten because they look weird or harassed at their work place you're mistaken it still happens all the fucking time.

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>Asians are Starscream

>>93675058
>When you got Straight Man Syndrome and can't admit you're wrong so you drop a sorta half-joke-half-insult hoping the other guy will let you off for being clearly out of your gourd

Nigga it's not even funny.

>>93675123
>Hideo
>China

Japs hate China, you moron.

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>it's a Marvel turned political discussion thread
Though granted with an OP like that it was bound to happen

>>93675066
>Dont be loud and abrasive

That's not what I'm talking about. I have a naturally deep voice and I'm told to lighten it up.

>>93675122
Maybe, and here's a crazy thought here, you're projecting your feelings about counter-counter arguements onto the counter-argument?

>>93674935
Sure you blacks would love to take our success, but nope. That's pure bullshit. We don't have to throw you under the bus because you've put yourself there. Asians shit do shit to you. The fact is, we don't give a shit about you unless you move to our neighborhood. We are to busy working and finding success to do half the shit you niggers do.

>>93675089
People who are dicks to others for no reason don't last long in normie society. Have you seen your grade school bully around town lately? No? Well that's why.

Come to think of it, that's probably the context for this whole anti-black sentiment in recent decades

>>93675148
I think this is the only worthwhile thing this thread has produced.

>>93674935
Everybody hates African Americans, anon. Especially Africans.

>>93673523
Priest gets it. The issue is that this also applies to black culture as well. As someone who is part black I know for a fact a common belief in black communities is
>Why should I work hard, the white man will just keep me down either way
And then when they accomplish shit all in life they go
>See, I told you it was the white man!
Black culture is about being a victim to the white man and blacks wont be anything more than that until they decide they are more than that.

>>93675136
That's roasted bread newfag

>>93675066
>Don't be loud and abrasive
That's not what he said. This is the crux of the matter. You turn something completely benign and normal into an insufferable affront to your very being just because the guy doing it is black.

He said, "Speak with a softer voice," asshole.

>>93675178
>Have you seen your grade school bully around town lately?
No, because he's surely CEO of a major company in either coast.

>>93675088
Fucking idiot. All those laws were mainly directed at blacks. They were only put into place to fuck with blacks. Oh a couple chinks were killed in a certain period of time? Lynching blacks were a common thing for decades. Stupid hick.

>>93675178
So instead of just accepting the fact that people who are dicks for no reason are very much alive and well in society, you've just taken another opportunity to make a "lol black people suck" crack?

>anti-black sentiment in recent decades

What the fuck are you even talking about? This isn't a thing.

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>>93675148
I admit, I laughed too hard at that.

>Be me. Native American, one generation off the reservation.
>Never wonder why my people don't have their own month. Hell, in grade school, I had to write a paper about how wonderful Columbus was.
>Know that no one alive was responsible for what happened long ago.
>Have been called racial slurs by many, especially in Canada.
>Know it's not "the system," but that those people are assholes.

It's really not complicated. The strange thing is that I get along with a lot of blacks (even dated a black girl) because of "shared oppression." I've literally been told that "i'm cool" because I know what it's like to be oppressed by "whitey." They think we have a common enemy; fuck that.

>>93673690
>Blacks don't deal with racism constantly
They don't in most of America, blacks just see it where it doesn't exist.
>This isn't even remotely true
Name me a black comic book or TV show that doesn't mention whites as an oppressor.
>Calling things what they are
You mean the bullshit excuses blacks make that aren't supported by any actual evidence?

>>93673857
You mean that thing that every normal person is capable of doing? OUTRAGEOUS!

>>93673816
>Whites don't want the guilt trip

Maybe there big an issue with whites people if they think anything black media related is automatically associated with guilt and some kind of subliminal persecution of the white man.

>>93675176
Yeah you keep saying that whilst enjoying all those benefit the CRB affords you. You can thank MLK for that.

Oh who am I kidding Chang, you'll just praise Lydon B. Johnson for that because he's white and you love big white American cock.

>>93674577

Yeah, Obama's more of a "show your erection to flight attendants" kind of guy.

>>93675218
Lynching lasted as long as the race riots and the bigger laws effected all non European minorities you stupid bigger. It doesn't matter if it was meant to mess with bigger, it messed with Asians and spice all the same.

And they're still vastly more successful as a group than black Americans. Black Americans are the shitstain of the human race.

>>93675242
>They don't in most of America, blacks just see it where it doesn't exist.
>White people believe this

I know you're ready to call me a nigger too while dishing out some /pol/ memes.

>>93675042
>It only makes sense that they started to define their own identities by relating them to white people.

This was what was originally posted, and it makes no sense.

If they had actually adopted "white culture", instead of inventing "kill whitey culture", their communities wouldn't be such shit.

>>93675037
Fuck your weak ass excuse. Blacks have been in america for generations. Asian refugees came here not knowing the language and starting from nothing, so don't fucking give me that bullshit about black hardships. You fuckers have this whole nation catering to you. Fuck, if Asians had half the help you blacks had, we'd own every city we lived in.

>>93675137
I think your friend failed to know his situation in that case. That'd be like me wandering downtown Atlanta at night thinking nothing bad could happen.

>>93674569
If you really misunderstood that then that's on you.

>>93674253
>it took 43 presidents
But only a dozen after the civil rights movement ended and since blacks make only 10% of the nation it makes sense that they would be 1 out of a dozen. Blacks make up a disproportionate number of famous singers, athletes and movie stars.
Stop making up bullshit oppression and maybe the black community wont be so fucking shit. I am saying this as a black person.
For fuck sake, most black children don't have a dad, over 50% fucking percent. Why don't we solve our real problems instead of blaming whitey on everything?

>>93675270
You forget to use auto correct Cletus? I know you can't read but damn bro.

>>93675300
Not only this, but you can be a literal retard and get into top colleges if you're black.

Asians have to perform twice as well as everyone else to even get considered.

>>93675151
>when you're so butthurt by off color jokes that you start making made up terms

>>93674693
>>93674879
So, hey, just to note that he hasn't posted them yet, and it's because arrests for rape are of white people way more often than for black people, as reported in FBI arrest stats.

Conservatives are right in thinking that the media lies to them, but they're re-donk-ulously wrong about what those lies actually are, and how they're presented.

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2015/03/23/report-new-york-city-television-stations-contin/202553

Also, remember that arrest statistics are somewhat bullshit because they're self-reported and don't always convert to a conviction. Many smaller precincts that don't have the "right" kind of numbers simply don't report them to the FBI. The Uniform Crime Report is voluntary, which is why we don't have hard starts about how many people the police kill (or even how many people other people kill). Researchers just try to collate that shit as best they can.

>>93675300
>Asian refugees came here not knowing the language and starting from nothing

>Implying Blacks didn't do the same and face worse odds

Stupid chink learn our history.

>>93675300
that's mostly because asians have a predilection towards education and demand their kids do well.

>>93675341
>chink
>being racist

sad!

>>93675313
adopt some black kids in need of a dad, then, if you have all the answers

>>93674321
Why don't you actually give some real evidence instead of bringing up the fact that a president had people mad at him?

>>93675216
Wait, are you taking the Chad memes seriously?

>>93675214
I know what he said. When someone says "speak softly" they don't mean change pitch, they mean change volume. If "speak softer" was his problem than he has issues with being too damned loud.

>>93675165
Not the same thing as speaking softly. You're probably using that "deep" voice to talk loud as fuck, oblivious to the people around you who don't care to hear your ass. I bet you get into lively conversations on your cell in the middle of a crowd too.
Rednecks act like that too but they at least understand that their mannerisms are shitty and stay out in the boonies to themselves.

>>93675336
It wasn't a joke, it was a face-saving attempt. The kind of aw-shucks-golly-gee-I-didna-mean-it shit that a lot of people pull when they're caught red-handed but that only white dudes expect to get away with.

>>93675345

Sounds like other minority groups could stand to learn from them. Or majority groups, for that matter.

>>93675355
The answer is birth control and taking care of your god damned children.

>>93675123
Ha! stay course Jamal. I'm sure it's working out for your race. I mean, it's working so far right? BWahahahaha!!. All the while, I'm going to retire early and tip you niggers when you bring me my drink.

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>>93673188
I feel the same way about modern Ms. Marvel.

I would love her run so much if it just stuck to adorable-struggling-superheroine shenanigans. I think that's why people like her in the first place, but it's been so long since it's been remotely like that to the point where it's likely a lost cause to want it to go back to that.

>>93675319
Have no argument so you're resorting to pointing out misspelled auto corrected words?


C'mon dog, you should be able to come up with something better than that.

Love this thread

>"Racism doesn't exist! Blacks aren't trying hard enough!"
>"Well actually it's not that sim-"
>"STUPID FUCKING SUBHUMAN NIGGER! YOUR PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN CHAINS AGAIN!"

The fucking hypocrisy of racists. For the cool whites ITT you know you are and I thank you for being rational people. The racists however need some help.

>>93675219
>This isn't a thing.

Rodney king
Beltway sniper
Hurricane Katrina
The 2008 election
Trayvon Martin

>>93675363
You added abrasive. You're also failing to understand that his having to speak softly could be a step down not from loudness but from a normal tone that is interpreted as loud because of his race. Kind of like how people overestimate black boys' age.

>>93675341
Implying niggers from the 1600s have any effect on you.

This is why even Africans hate you people

4chan's narrative of African-American civil rights

>black people hung around Africa raping and murdering each other
>white people sailed over on boats and black people, blown away by their obvious superiority, immediately offered to be their slaves
>black people happily enjoyed slavery for years until they suddenly and abruptly decided it sucked and started bullying their delightful white slave masters
>said slave masters immediately decided to free black people because they didn't want no trouble
>every black slave was freed and given land, a million dollars, free therapy and an education
>unsatisfied with this show of generosity, black people gathered to meet at their secret lair hidden in a swamp and decided to rape, burgle and murder white people en masse
>confused by this sudden hostility, white people agreed to further accommodate black people by giving them nothing but positive depictions in the media, easy welfare and affirmative action, which ensures that every black person everywhere gets the exact job they want whenever they want it instead of white people
>all colleges, workforces and tv shows are now 90% black
>still ungrateful, the alien hivemind that controls all black people and makes them exactly alike continues to compel them to commit crimes
>at their wits end, white people band together and use their celestial powers to create a chocolate homunculus who can become president and lead black people to glory
>this president is voted into office with a landslide victory of 99.9% of votes, proving that NO racist white people exist
>he serves two terms in office with no one so much as making a single negative comment about his race or his heritage
>he leaves office and is replaced by Mr. Rogers
>still dissatisfied, black people band together to do 9/11 and also cocaine

Will there ever be a comic that explores the racism that goes on between the black and hispanic communities?

>>93675366

Saved.

>>93675233
What tribe?

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>>93673188
Why would Black Panther give a fuck about "the streets" in the west when he and his people don't even give a shit about the starving and needy in Africa?

>>93675291
Nice strawman. Think of an actual argument next time instead. Blacks have it just as easy as whites, in fact even easier if we count college admission bullshit.

>>93675390
>Hyperbole, strawmen, and blatant fantasy situations
Yawn. Why are these things always posted? Do they think this makes them look smart or something?

>>93675357
That was real evidence faggot.That went way past people being "mad" at him. They were literally trying to undermine the first Black president by saying he was a Kenyan born Muslim. How was that not an effort to sabotage black success?

>>93675401
Newsflash, genius: racists have always been a thing and always will be. It wasn't just a sudden realisation by good, law-abiding white guys who felt put upon by black prejudice. They were always racists and all these events just gave them an opportunity to shine.

>>93675387

Events have been ruining her.

>>93675345
Which is what is at the core of so-called "racism". It's actually not the inherent dislike of race but the culture usually associated with it.

You get black guys come over from fucking Nigeria or Zimbabwe and they own a business in no time. Black guys born and raised here, with a million government programs specifically designed to give them a headstart and generally speaking they don't achieve as much.

>>93675061
>>93675390
Samefag

>>93675401
You're going to accuse a hurricane of being racist?

>The 2008 election
Right, because McCain sure ended up winning by a landslide that time, didn't he?

>Trayvon Martin
Shooter was a Latino pinned down to the ground

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>>93675337
>>93674693
>>93674670
Blacks commit 32.9% of rapes, 55.6% of robberies, and 49.7% of murders.

Whites commit 65.0% of rapes, 43.0% of robberies, and 48.0% of murders.

But, blacks are only 12% of the population while whites are 72% (based on 2010 senses, so im sure the numbers have changed by maybe around 5%)


so blacks, proportionally, commit way more crime, including rapes.


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States
The more you know!

>>93675427
No, because hispanics aren't cucked and they don't care.

>>93675363
See I dont even know why I try to reason with you racists. I say one thing and you have to twist it around because whites can do no wrong and it's always the blacks fault.

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You know guys, maybe this is a complex issue with many roots and causes. Perhaps it's not just black and white

But seriously though it's not something that can be blamed solely on every single white person or every single black person, it's a nuanced and complex problem

>>93675376
It depends. Asians can get insane about that shit which is why japanese and korean student suicide rates are fucking tremendous. education, can definitely uplift you but that much pressure on a kid needs to be done in a way that doesn't make them suicidal.

>>93675366
I REMEMBER THAT THREAD

HOLY SHIT I'M OLD

>>93675401

>Trayvon Martin

There is no evidence to suggest that racism was involved in this case at all.

>>93675456
Agreed.

>>93675256
So what's preventing you from enjoying the same benefits you fuckwit. Face it, you're retarded race can't grasp the simple concept of civilization, and that's because instead of using what you have, you complain that no one is giving you enough hand outs. Stay hostile, while you blacks are hooting and hollering about ma respect, and ma nigga, the rest of the world and races will be moving forward.

>>93675373
I'm not gracing you with serious discussion about your made up oppression. Stop blaming whitey for your own shortcomings.

>>93675380
>Wong is pissed

But please keep going around pretending whites love you. Hey I hear that new Death Note on Netflix has a white protagonist. I'm sure that role could have went to a struggling chink actor. I'll be enjoying Black Panther though.

>>93675472
This. Hispanics don't give a fuck about racism, even if it was actually real in the modern day. We just take that shit on the chin, dust ourselves off, and get back to work.

>>93675417
Black people are far more racist than white people on average tbph.

As far as I know, our average talk shows don't revolve around how evil the black man is.

>>93675373
>I'm going to tell you what you meant!!!

sad!

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>>93675417
kek

>>93675417

Not enough mention of Jews being slavers/slave owners to be the real definitive 4chan narrative.

>>93675401
>Trayvon Martin
His girlfriend testified that he was going to go beat the shit out of Zimmerman since he thought he was a gay coming on to him.

>>93675389
Dude you clearly have a gross misunderstanding of history. I'd be wasting my time trying to convince you of something you dont want to believe.

>>93675441
>Blacks have it just as easy as whites
>White people believe this

But I thought I was a subhuman?

>>93675533
I dunno, anon, Zimmerman does look like he could suck a mean dick.

>>93675451
>give specific instances where blacks were antagonized for being black
>DAT WUZ JUSS REGULAR RACISM DOE

How do you equate actual motives of genocide to whitey crossing the street?

>>93675313
>I am saying this as a black person.
Are u tho?

>Famous singers
The musical tradition is well preserved in Black culture.
>Famous athletes
Selective breeding will do that.
>Famous movie stars
Not really. Actually pull up a spreadsheet and its swamped with Whites. Blacks do better than other non-passing minorities however, but I think that's because we have had a longer and stronger grasp of the English language.

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>>93675403
Black people are in general louder and more animated. Any black comedian will gladly tell you how much they like to flail and shout more than white people.
How many fucking black people have you even been around? I live in Richmond VA. Before that, I lived in Petersburg VA. Look up the ethnic makeup of those places.
I'm a goddamned scholar in this shit.

>>93675585
Gays should be able to defend themselves from bashing.

>>93675506
Who said I wasn't enjoying those benefits? Can you even read between those slants, Ching?

>>93675417
>no mention of jews somehow responsible for every single evil deed

Missed a key element there.

>>93675514
Unlike biggest Asians can sell their media overseas and reap profits off of that.

There's 3 live action Asian death note already you stupid nigger

>>93675573
You're only subhuman until it hurts their arguments

>>93675477
Excuse me, did anyone ask for rational thinking?
No. fuck off.

>>93675466
>Shooter was a Latino
But Twitter said he was white

>>93675471
Notice how you had to turn those into percentages so as to avoid the shock of the absolute numbers. You also left out burglary and larceny, the latter of which occurs at a rate 16,000% higher than murder.

Did I say "occur"? I meant, "arrests are made for," because these stats don't track occurrences but simple detainment. Surprising!

Finally, these are from 2011. There are newer tables available. I assume you're using this one because it's the first one that popped up in Wikipedia's ref list or whatever Stormfront lite board you frequent, and because you didn't do any actual research yourself.

>>93674531
White South African here, this is true. Tribalism runs deep in the black races. It runs so deep, that it even still exists to a point in American blacks. Despite what's going on with blacks and whites in my home country, I'll be friends with an African black over an American black any day. Especially the ones that have put away all their racial and tribal dogma in life, in favor of doing well for themselves and their families. They have a drive and work ethic that rivals Asians, same with a lot of Jamaicans I've worked with. I've rarely seen that in American blacks since I've lived in the States.

>>93675477
Wow, fucking Carlos makes the smartest post in this thread. Everyone itt but this poster needs to kill themselves as soon as possible.

>>93674473

>in Irish

Stopped reading right there

>>93675601
You're trying to compare your personal anecdotes to something I personally live with every day.

>be black
>all black catered media has to be some mix of WE WUZ and(or) pure degeneracy
>be a woman
>all female catered media has to EMPOWER, filled with flawless, dull one-dimensional characters
>white male can fill all roles, good or bad, without needing to preach some auxiliary message

I think the best part about being white is that I don't have a huge fucking self-perpetuating inferiority complex bleeding into my creative expression.
Now if I just had my dad's mediterranean tan-capable complexion instead of fucking Irish "just fuck my shit up Mr. Sun" I would be pretty set.

>>93675573
>>93675625
>More strawman
Yeah anon, you insult me based on what you perceive to be my race and I am somehow a racist
Funny thing is I am half black
>If you don't believe racist is a problem then you are a racist!
Amazing

>>93675631
That's because fucking CNN posted a photo they lightened up to make him look whiter.

>>93675537
You obviously don't know enough history beyond what you read in high school. What's the point of getting facts that you FEEL is wrong, right?

>>93674213
>Speak with a softer voice, dont dress like this, style your hair this way, etc etc.

Ive been told all this shit many times and I'm white. Hell, I've had my black friends tell me to be quiet, dress nicer for certain events, and that my hair looks gay as shit.

Hell, I'm also jewish and ive had jews tell me the opposite of this shit. Sing louder, dress more jewish, grow out my curls more, etc.


Grow a thicker skin you silly bitch.

>>93675507
You couldn't if you tried.

>>93675527
That's what smart people are able to do luv.

>>93675514
>chinese
>being a japanese protagonist
The japanese would rather be bombed again. Also BP was kind of shit as was luke cage but so was Jessica jones and iron fist and season two of dare devil why not jut go back to /tv/ instead of bothering people here?

>>93675651
But he was talking about stats in the first place.

>>93675447
>They were trying to undermine
You mean the same shit every president gets?
Oh wow, they treated THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT like they would any other? How racist

>>93675651
And this is why nothing ever changes. If this were any other demographic, that demographic would go "Holy shit, what is wrong with my people? This shit has to change."

Your typical nigger would go "dindu nuffin".

>>93675651
It was the first shit that popped up on google my dude, go ahead and present other facts. Also what would even be the point of raw numbers over percentages? Percentages make way more sense in this context you crazy person.

>>93675685
everything you've said has been anti black you silly uncle tom

>>93675489
That people believe this is why we're hurtling towards a catastrophe. I mean, even more so than innocent black people being shot to death in a church.

>>93675621
>Unlike biggest Asians can sell their media overseas and reap profits off of that.

Blacks do the same thing here with their media.

>There's 3 live action Asian death note already you stupid nigger

In Japan.


Stupid chink.

>>93675523
>work
Therein is the biggest difference.

Full disclosure my father in law is Mexican. Came over at the age of 16 and picked fruit for a living. He now owns several restaurants and became a full citizen last week.
I'm a slacker ass white guy and I can't articulate the respect I have for that kind of drive.

The previous generation or two of black people should be pissed at what the current ones are like. How are they not livid that so much of what they fought for and endured was wasted?
I bet they would have killed for the social programs that are available now.

>>93675670
>white male can fill all roles, good or bad, without needing to preach some auxiliary message
It's almost like you were never oppressed or enslaved or disenfranchised or something crazy like that.

>>93675600
So you have literally agreed about cases were blacks are over represented. This shows that they aren't oppressed

>>93675665
>You're trying to compare your personal anecdotes to my personal anecdotes
Then stop using personal anecdotes.

>>93675488
TWO THOUSAND EIGHT WAS THIRTY SEVEN YEARS AGO

>>93675709
>my people
I'll send in a complaint to the black hive-mind and hopefully someone will make it stop.

>>93674560
you must not be very familiar with how Chinese immigrants were treated during the construction of the railway systems in the 1800's.

>>93673690

Agree man, people with mall dicks are inferior :)

>>93675674
>Funny thing is I am half black

Oh and there it is.

>>93675709
>If this were any other demographic, that demographic would go "Holy shit, what is wrong with my people? This shit has to change."
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

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I don't get what's going on in this thread anymore.

>>93675736
Whites were oppressed many times throughout history. So was every other race. Read a book faggot.

>>93675466
>>93675725

It's not even that Zimmerman was a Latino (Latinos can be and often are racist against blacks), it's that Zimmerman had black friends, had dated black women, tutored black kids, voted for Obama, and personally protested the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white cop until said son was put on probation. To suggest that Zimmerman's encounter with Trayvon was one motivated by racism is patently absurd.

>>93675736
>It's almost like you were never oppressed or enslaved or disenfranchised
Neither were you.
You just suck.
Seamus McPotatohead over there is able to be more than a potatoe famine, so why can't you?

>>93675631
latinos are Schrodinger's race. We're' a unique race when sjws need us positively we're a minority when we do something they don't like we're white.

Just like asians are a Schrodinger's minority you only remember that they are half the population of the world when it makes your point invalid. It's SJW logic 101.

>>93675665
Oh I don't live with my personal life everyday. Silly me.
TOTALLY unaware that personal anecdotes didn't come about from living my life everyday.

Sweet White Jesus, get over your victim complex.

>>93675755
You haven't made a single decent argument the entire thread.
You falsely assumed I was white.

>>93675417
You forgot to add something related to the jews causing all evil in the world. Other than that, this is pretty accurate.

>>93675759
/pol/ shitting up another thread on /co/. And people will deny that that board is the most cancerous thing on this site

>>93675776
Don't forget he had a black grandparent

>>93675601
>Black people are in general louder and more animated. Any black comedian will gladly tell you how much they like to flail and shout more than white people
I'm not sure if I should start with the, "That's a gross overgeneralization" part or the "That's straight-up racist and also probably confirmation bias" part.
>How many fucking black people have you even been around?
Oh, boy, you do not want to fight this battle.

>>93675750
Some other part of the black hivemind would probably shoot it before it got there.

>>93675514
You're proud because you have one film staring a black actor. Fuck, there's whole countries and asians making asian films. the only people complaining about white washing are fuckwits like yourself who complains instead of actually doing any work to get ahead. Keep going though Jamal, I'm going to need my shoes shined.

>>93673690
If blacks are sick of people being racist towards them then they should stop being niggers.

>All evidence shows that blacks are just as able to succeed as any other race
>Blacks wont succeed because of their victim complex
Self fulfilling prophecy at it's finest.

>>93675708
>"The Birther Movement wasn't racist! Every POTUS gets that!"

Oh yeah I forgot about those times people led movements demanding Clinton, Bush, and Trump to releases their birth certificates because we had to be sure they weren't Kenyan born Muslims.

>>93675802

Great grandparent, IIRC, but yeah.

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Race relations are my favorite comics and/or cartoons

>>93674634
the thing that everyone always forgets for convenience sake is that trump was talking about starfucking groupie whores, not the average woman.

>>93675849
>Other presidents get this very specific event
No, they got their own shit just like every other president.

>>93673690
>It's not our job to make white people feel comfortable around us.
Nor is it your job to tell white people "you suck because you're not black." Not every white guy is a racist jackass. Granted the majority of voting-age white guys in America are but still.

Hear ye, hear ye! After having received many requests from noble and concerned outsiders with bold and innovative ideas, I hereby decree that no black person can ever commit a crime from this day forward. Naturally, this decree will affect all black people around the world and, of course, the inhibitor chip implanted in your dicks will ensure that you are left with no choice but to obey.

Thank you, white brothers, for using your superior intellect and knowledge to suggest that we might take a look at ourselves and fix things. Should you wish to be knighted, you need only ask.

>>93675744
The difference being you didn't experience what I experienced.

>"Hey this thing happened to me."
>"Nu uh! Impossible! I know because I saw this thing!"

That's you.

>>93675847
That's pretty much the truth right there. What they need is a good belting for failing at life. What they received was rewards for being useless and loud. This is why even Asians don't want them in our neighborhood.

>>93675911
Just when you thought this thread couldn't get more shite, we get a tripfag.

>>93675751
You must not be familiar with how Blacks were treated ever since they came to this country.

>>93674641
all the concentrated effort to villify and demasculate white males in media annoys me to no end, but i honestly can't agree with this.

I love how /pol/tards itt refuse to acknowledge the idea that maybe, just maybe, everything about race isn't about as black & white as it seems, but would rather assume that all people of a certain race acts the same, just to justify their shitposting.

What the hell does this thread even have to do with /co/ anymore? If you faggots aren't gonna discuss cartoons & comics, then fuck off.

>>93674643

Wakandans don't give a fuck about any other blacks. They only care about Wakanda. An isolationist monarchy is the greatest country in the world. Great job Marvel.

>>93675706
>Stats are percentages
No.

>>93675711
>It was the first shit that popped up on google my dude
I'll let you guess why.
>go ahead and present other facts
I don't need to, you did it for me.
>Also what would even be the point of raw numbers over percentages
Because you were talking about which race has more rapes and clearly white people get the medal on that one.
>But blacks have more rapes per capita!
Yes and I'm sure that's a great comfort to the literally twice as many victims of white rape there are in this country.

Statistically-speaking, your rapist is more likely to be white than black. End of story.

>>93675651
As of 2015, blacks commit 51.1% of murders, 28.2% of rapes, 53.5% of robberies, 32.1% of aggravated assaults, 29.5% of burglaries, & 27.4% of larceny-theft.


whites commit 45.9% of murders, 68.0% of rapes, 44.4% of robberies, 64.0% of aggravated assaults, 68.1% of burglaries, & 69.6% of larceny-thefts.

As of 2016 whites made up 76.9% of the population while blacks made up 13.3%

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/
The more you know!

>>93675804
It isn't a battle. Even IF you are actually black, its not like you would admit that blacks are generally louder, more confrontational and animated than white people.
Its why whites are characterized as stiff and lame in black media.
There is no battle here.

>>93675767
When were whites as whole oppressed in the US?

>>93675913
You're making sweeping generalizations about the entire country on a social, economic and political level using nothing but personal anecdotes, and flatout denying actual statistical and historical evidence that doesn't agree with your ridiculous nigger complex.

>>93675796
It's actually pretty intetesting to watch though. For as wise /pol/ like to advertise themselves, they really don't know how to hold an argument without coming off as a screaming autist.