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How does this make you feel?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pirates-ride-20170629-story,amp.html
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>>93552511
Why does Disney keep having to make Pirates worse.
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>>93552511
makes me feel like you're too much of a cunt to use the catalog, cunt
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>>93552565
Did you just use the C word at me friend?!?
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>>93552565
>>93552607
Watch your fucking language, cunts.
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>>93552659
Fuck off, cunt.
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>>93552511
Never been, can't afford it, can't care.
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No one goes to Disney for a history lesson or realism.

If this were cut from a documentary it history book, it would be shit. But Disney sells cartoon entertainment and nostalgia, and nostalgia is MADE to be revisionist.
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Just fuck my shit up.
First you fuck up The Haunted Mansion with CG atrocities, then you rape the Tower of Terror and turn it into gay lord and friends and now you go full SJW on POTC.
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>>93552511
There were badass female pirates too. Put in more pirates pillaging shit on my ride about pirates.
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>>93552999
>There were badass female pirates too.
And they can be counted on one hand.
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>>93552511
good. I'm not a sjw but little kids shouldn't see that. it even disturbed me a bit.
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>>93552511
>lets ignore this horrible awfil thing that happened because it hurts my feewings

Look. I get it. It's a ride. Not a historical account of real events, but I honestly believe that we will get to a point where we will have a "false" history taught to people in the future for the sake of not hurting anyone's feelings. Hell they already do this to grade schoolers with the "Thanksgiving" thing.
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>>93553048
The lesbian duo, the chinese one, the french one. Who else?
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>>93552511
Stop reposting the same fucking thread.
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>>93553151
>The lesbian duo, the chinese one, the french one. Who else?
The irish one.

... and yeah that's basically it.
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>>93553130
They already do it for everything by conveniently leaving out almost all inconvenient facts about history. You tend to get the cliff notes version with everything notable white washed out.
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>>93552511
>badass gun-toting lady pirate in a fabulous dress
>How does this make you feel?
Aroused.
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Disney used to be a lot darker.
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>>93553162
Fucking this
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>>93553212
With Miles and RiRi, it's looking like Disney's getting a lot darker.
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>>93553203
Seriously this. I prefer a sexy red headed pirate who will step on my balls and make me her slave than a dainty little bitch. They can say "girl power" all they want but it only makes me more erect
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>>93553130
>posting a One Piece image while bitching about pirates being sanitized
I do love a bit of good ol' fashion irony.
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>>93552511
Honestly I applaud the first ride for being so... dark. If I has a Disney land I would keep it. But It's way off tone for something as cheesey as a Disney land. That being said I'd keep it if I was a more thrill oriented mature amusement park like Universal.
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>>93552511
>>My bait thread didn't work
>>I'LL MAKE ANOTHER ONE!

Just put yourself out of our misery already.
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>>93553365
It's not bait I deliberately started a thread without stating my opinion on the matter. I just asked how all of you feel about the change
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>>93553302
Every bit of piracy One Piece sanitizes is countered by its accurate depiction of a government.
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>>93553203
Got a link for the full pic.
Don't remember seeing this one.
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>>93553433
>>93553302
Straw Hats are also one of the only genuinely righteous crews out there. The others are varying degrees of glorified robbers, and most you meet in the manga do FAR WORSE things than simply rob people.
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>>93553550
>pirates
>righteous
See, from the very start, you done fucked up. Any depiction of pirates outside of being vicious marauders no better than the governments they supposedly rebelled against, is immediate bullshit. The down with the man shit was little more than a convenient excuse.
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>>93553130
>teaching about World War II will be banned
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WE WANTS THE REDHEAD

WE WANTS THE REDHEAD
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I didn't care what Disney did before this, and I still don't care.
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>>93552511
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>>93553708
It's not theft, it's advanced negotiation. With a gun.
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>>93553170
>lesbian duo

I hardly think being Calico Jack's bitches qualifies as "badass"
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>>93553408
You knew perfectly well this is bound to inspire incendiary rhetoric from all concerned and your entire purpose was to create a flame war. It's a bait thread.
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>mfw Space Pirates dislike theft
Fuck, even in sci-fi, pirates are sanitized to shit.
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>>93553670
>I'm going to bitch about historical accuracy about a story that is written about a totally different world and remove the story's context from it so I have something to complain about.

There's a few important things about how the world of One Piece is put together. The world is like 90% water. Islands are usually not that big, seriously speaking. Sailing is an unavoidable fact of life in One Piece. The World Government is also an unrepentant piece of shit. Government endorsed and controlled slavery isn't even the biggest sin on their list of fucked up shit they like doing. To that point, if you are not sailing with the stamp of approval of the government, you are considered a pirate. It's that easy to become a pirate in that world. They even gunned down a random dingy with a child in it cause EYYYY must be a pirate if it's in our way. Said child hadn't even committed anything we'd consider an act of piracy before the government saw fit to execute him for it(via bombardment). Finally, if you are a freedom fighter, you need to sail. If you need to sail as an antigoverment group, you're a pirate by default no matter what you're doing as you sail port to port.

Essentially the government throws around the label of pirate out of convenience. Call them a pirate and shoot them. No need for any other justification, but it's also turned the label of 'pirate' in to a badge of honor because of it.
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>>93553708
>Pirates don't steal
The fuck I'm reading?
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>>93553708
A good pirate doesn't pirate things

I don't understand, what would be the point to their existence

Why not be regular sailors
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>>93553130
This. Hel, it's already happening.
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>>93553754
>it's advanced negotiation. With a gun.

lost
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>>93553754
Heh, I'm stealing this.
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>>93553130
few years ago I've read that they are gonna censor Robinson Crusoe and cut every single "slave" word and replace them with word "friend"
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>>93553963
aesthetic
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>>93553688
hel, most of it already is ignored, if not banned.

Most of it is Nazis bad, Allies (including Russia) Good!. No one talks about the shit Russia did, no one talks about the Italians at all, People barely gloss over the shit the Japanese pulled, and everything with the Germans is "Lol Holocaust."

No one actually talks about what Fascism was, or why the Fascist nations managed to pull themselves out of the Depression first via economic policies. No one talks about how Stalin took Russia from 4th world tech to 1st world army by slaughtering and enslaving his own nation.
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Nothing wrong with a qt redhead pirate
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>>93553963
>Why not be regular sailors
Doesn't sound as glamorous.

>>93553856
Hey, I'm just saying, the whole historical accuracy argument is completely invalid unless the work in question is meant to be historically accurate.

It's like when some people bitched about playable women in For Honor. Yeah, probably not a lot of female combatants back then, but there sure as fuck weren't no three way war between Knights, Vikings, and Samurai. Goddamn.
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>>93554181
>or why the Fascist nations managed to pull themselves out of the Depression first via economic policies
Silly anon. Government can't have anyone calling attention to the fact it just sits around letting it's elected officials grow fat while the common people suffer under a broken economy. It's not like people will suddenly start yearning for fascist regimes because even a fascist government is kinder than the current abuse of capitalism.

Wait.. what do you mean that's exactly what's happening?
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They probably had to counteract all the butthurt the Hall of Presidents will cause.
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>>93554198
I don't get why people get an argument rage boner whenever women warriors get brought up in fictional environments. Women warriors are fun.
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>>93553963
Because they prefered the (generally) democratic life style of a pirate ship to the constant sodomy, beatings and other authoritarian shit that the official navy's engaged in. Or because Odin/Allah/Jesus wills it.

>>93553130
Pirates are a pop culture invention.
There was no organized pirate culture where people ran about burying treasure, teaching parrots to talk, and raping cuz dat's da rules of being a Pirate.
The most successful and powerful pirate to ever live (Ching Shih) banned rape and ordered that all female captives be released. You "muh real pirates" fags are the worst.
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>>93554259
kek'd
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>4-5 threads about this so far
>no art of what should be the board's latest waifu
You people disgust me.
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>>93554316

Nice bait post

Pirates began as privateers hired by nations to raid trade routes and easy targets like colonies. When they got out of hand they were outlawed by most countries but people still did it because it was a great way of making money. There would literally never be the concept of pirate if it hadn't been organized by the various European powers trying to colonize the world. Also no one thinks of your chink faggot when they hear or say pirate they think of people like Blackbeard who was a crazy fuck.
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>>93554899
Cheesecake already exists on the ride itself
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>>93555260
>implying that's an excuse
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>>93554924
Just how underaged are you? I'm guessing 10.
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>>93552511
Is it too late to buy a gf? Wish I had known about this sooner!
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>>93552511
It wasn't historically accurate anyway. The way it actually worked back then was the opposite. The girl's father would have to pay a dowry the man's family to take her away. Women were considered a liability.
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>>93554181
>>93554086
Can you not spell hell?
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>>93553670
Are you retarded? There were plenty of pirate captains who had codes of honor and wouldn't just randomly kill and murder. Some of these people were former naval captains which continued these practices when they became pirates.
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>>93555786
I can, but different Hel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(location)
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Disney has done this before with the same ride, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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>>93553048
which can also be said for male pirates
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>>93556484
Only if you don't give a shit about pirates to begin with. But the notable female pirates are also some of the ONLY female pirates.
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>>93556612
How many notable males pirates are there? Other then Blackbeard and Bart
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>>93552955
>and nostalgia is MADE to be revisionist.
Explain.
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>>93552511
>Disneyland
And nothing of value was lost.
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>>93552511
>>93552955
This is an example of Disney giving into flavor of the minute political bullshit instead of caring about ... well... anything that was funny. Though sadly I'm less bothered by this removal and still MORE bothered by the fucking switching up of the men chasing women. That was genuinely funny before they feminized it.
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>>93556635
Well, obviously. Nostalgia is an ersatz version of a particular period of time designed to filter out all of the shitty stuff. For example, all that 1950s nostalgia crap centered on James Dean and cars with giant tail fins while completely overlooking the Cold War, duck and cover drills, people dying of diseases you can treat easily now, etc.
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>>93552511
Erasing a sex slave auction scene should be to feminism what having a happy sharecropper movie is to civil rights. They don't even deserve points from the sjw crowd.
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>>93554316
>Pirates are a pop culture invention.
>Pop culture depictions of pirates are not historically accurate
>therefore pirates are a pop culture invention
Neck yourself. Pirates started largely as privateers, then moved into the bucaneer era, and then the "Golden age of piracy." Shit even happens today with Somalian pirates raiding freighter ships in the Gulf of Aden. Do you honestly think that people who murder ship crews and steal cargo are above rape?
Also, female pirate used her husband and family's history/recognition to maneuver herself into power. Not a knock against her personally, but don't act like female pirates were the norm, she was a very special case in a unique position.
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>>93556055
Weren't these largely privateers?
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>>93553106
I liked being disturbed by it as a little kid. That was the appeal. I don't understand millenials.
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>They're teaching in schools that Cleopatra and Hannibal were full Congo Black
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>>93556624
Kidd and Morgan, I guess. I don't really care about pirates anyway, but honestly I think there's only two actually notable female pirates. That one girl who pretended to be a dude (and never actually was a captain), and Shih.
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>There are people arguing over whether or not a themepark ride should be historically accurate
What went wrong with the world?
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>>93553315
>It's way off tone for something as cheesey as a Disney land

It's one of the oldest most iconic rides. Your idea of what tone a Disney park should have is a recent development.
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>>93556742
>People are commenting on cultural trends manifesting themselves in how amusement parks choose to portray Disney-style history
Truly the end times.
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>>93556624
Captain Kidd
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>>93552511

I didn't even know this was part of the ride and I've been on it twice.
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>>93556661

So you're saying she's traveled tothe past and forced Disney to change the pirates chasing the women?
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>>93553315
>But It's way off tone for something as cheesey as a Disney land.
People seem to just assume that all children gravitate towards cutesy innocent stuff, and are terrified and ruined by anything that's remotely dark. When I was a kid, I was scared of things that LOOKED scary (orcs in Lord of the Rings, etc.), but abstract things like Bridal Sales didn't register as disturbing until I was older.

Changing the ride under the guise of "protecting the children from indecent exposure" is just an excuse. The people who are actually upset and disturbed by it are adults.
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>>93554264
They said they weren't gonna put Trump in a speaking role, right?
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>>93556792
It's an extremely minor part of the ride. At least in the one in Disney World. Afterwards, you see them chasing the pirates with brooms.
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This sucks, the pirates went from scoundrels to happy fun time panksters

If they ever touch the suicide scene in haunted mansion i'll be sad.
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>>93556770

>cultural trends

Except that they've done that before, so either sjws can time travel or it has nothing to do with "cultural trends"
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>>93555586
The "bride" part of the scene was just a joke. Nobody was interested in marrying the wenches, they were just going to rape them.
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>>93556678
Duck and cover drills are now looked back on fondly as being quaint.
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>>93552511
That's fine. What's the problem?
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>>93556656
This is happening to WDW too.
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>>93556849
wut?
People comment on cultural trends. This happens constantly. The fuck does time travel have to do with it.
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>>93556678
The Cold War gave us video games, so it wasn't all bad.
The first video game was developed by software engineers (or their precursors anyway) on equipment meant to calculate missile paths.
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>>93553688
You kidding? Who would we compare politicians too if we don't learn about hitler?
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>>93552511
>disney being family-friendly
am I supposed to be upset?
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>>93557009

The change has nothing to do with cultural trends, they've done this same thing in the past.
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>>93557057
>Perifag
>posts retarded shit
checks out
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>>93557057
Pirates were criminals, they should remove the whole attraction desu.
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>>93557076
Just because they've changed things before, doesn't mean that changes due to different societal outlooks/culture can't happen again.
Why do you think they made the change? Why now instead of years ago?
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>>93556696
A privateer is just a patriotic pirate, though yeah, they tended to be more "civilized" than normal pirates. However, there were quite a few pirates that weren't affiliated with any government that also had fairly stringent pirate codes.
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>>93557057
can't wait for the 2pac and Biggy Smalls bumper car/squirt gun ride!
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>>93556834
That sounds fairly fun.
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>>93556624
That's the problem, the notable female pirates are not notable for piracy, but notable for being female.

Let's say Brian O'Hare decides to pillage some fishing villages in bumfuck nowhere and then return to his home port. There's nothing notable about that. If Patricia O'Hare did the same thing, she would be on the list of amazing female pirates.
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>>93552511
Did a woman eat someone on the park grounds again?
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>>93552511
you just said auction and women in the same sentence. IM TRIGGERED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>93552511
BUT BEING A PIRATE AND KIDNAPPING CHICKS WAS MY ONLY VIABLE CAREER CHOICE/WAY TO GET A GF

NOW I'M GOING TO DIE POOR AND A VIRGIN
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>>93556678
>people dying of diseases

No one cares about that because the people who remember the 1950s aren't the ones who died. Also the 1950s saw those diseases getting cured so that must have been pretty sweet.
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>>93556656
Honestly I'll Disneyland over Disney World any day of the week
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>>93552511
Who the fuck cares? I'm seriously asking.

Who
the fuck
cares?
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>>93556686
You mean pirates of the Caribbean specifically. In any part of the world where shipping and oceangoing trade has existed there have been kinds of pirates.
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>>93556773
That's the thing, it's not actually clear whether Kidd was ever a pirate or if he was just a legitimate privateer convicted for political reasons.
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>>93556719
REEE TRIGGERED
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>>93557471
Plagues are always a fun plot device to have in any setting.
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>>93552511
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I never understood why Pirates and Vikings are so romanticized. They both did really horrible things like murder, rob and rape innocent people but everyone wants to gloss over that.

It's not as if they were Robin Hood-esque bands of heroes who stole from the rich and gave to the poor.
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>>93557573
Because they were white
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>>93557049
People that compare everything to Nazis don't know anything about Hitler except that he was a big, big meanie and had a funny mustache.

Bring up the word 'Schicklgruber' and watch them get confused.
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>>93553130
https://youtu.be/HphgaZ96-4M
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>still no art
>only whining
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>>93557595
tumblr go and stay go
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>>93552511
at least they're not shoehorning Johnny Depp all over the fucking place
oh wait
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>>93554127
Some pirate you are.
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>>93557499
tumblr does, therefore 4chan does
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I wonder if in the future, narcos will be as romanticized and family-friendly as pirates are today
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>>93557595
And yet millions of white people also glamorize drug dealers-turned musicians like Snoop Dogg
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>>93557867
>foreigners bringing in drugs from the outside

There's a reason we don't glamorize 1980s South American drug lords
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>>93557867
>in the future
Heh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido
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>>93552511
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>>93556624
Amaro Pargo
Black Sam
Calico Jack
Francis Drake
Felix von Luckner
Grutter Pier
Hippolyte Bouchard
John Hawkins
Yermak Timofeyevich
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>>93557573
Ever noticed how the people that romanticize vikings the most are either snowniggers or American wannabe snowniggers that think that the fact that their grandmother, a proud harbor whore if there ever was one, once sucked a Norwegian dick makes them 100% Nordic and part of the Aryan master race.
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>>93554188
??? There are black pi-
>remembers Somalia
Oh
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They are PIRATES, not good people. Should've kept it in the ride.
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>>93554264
>>93556832
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-have-speaking-role-in-disney-worlds-hall-of-presidents/
http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/on-the-town/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2017/6/25/trump_to_have_speaki.html

Speaking confirmed.
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>>93554181
Idk where you're from, but my high school (NJ) did teach that stuff. They didn't talk about the British engineered famine of India though.
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>>93558669
Who fucking cares? Like 80% of the people who see shit lit Hall of Presidents are foreigners who don't give a shit.

My main gripe is how terrible Obama looks and I don't even like the guy.
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>>93557118
Source? Not doubting, genuinely curious.
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>>93558988
> the British engineered the drought
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>>93555336
>no counterargument
>calls poster underage

Nice debating skills friendo
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>>93558988
>>93559193
England fucked everything up
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I say good. Problematic and toxic historical concepts like these shouldn't be laid bare in public for the world to see, let alone little kids.

I mean imagine the damage that could spring into life when a little girl sees something like this. She could internalize that misogyny for the rest of her life.
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>>93559029
>Who fucking cares?
There was a change.org petition demanding that "Drumpf" be silenced and not allowed to speak with around 14k signatures
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I honestly thought Disney got rid of Pirates of the Caribbean ride years ago.
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>>93559412
>change.org
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>>93552511
This isn't even vaguely /co/ related.
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>>93556437
True, but that happened more than 20 years ago with that change.
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>>93558411
A lot of pirates were former slaves.
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>>93559029
they gave him the eyes of a chimpanzee
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>>93552511
It's not like it was ever meant to be historically accurate, the ride was always about story tall tale depictions of pirates, it just went from Treasure Island to Pirates of the Carribean: The Movie.
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>>93557815
I'm sorry, your right.

I'd like to use this until I no longer see the need for in anymore, please and thank you.
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>>93559521
But that's wrong faggot we have Disney park threads ALL THE TIME lurk moar
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>>93553130
we are already there friend
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>>93559902
>>93552511
>>>/trv/. This is barely /co/ related.
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>>93552971
What'd they do to Tower of Terror?
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>>93561413
It's GotG in DL
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>>93552607
CATALOG, CATALOG, CATALOG
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>>93561543
MY EYES! WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY EYES?!
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