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Goddamn, this was a lot darker than I remembered it being, especially

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Goddamn, this was a lot darker than I remembered it being, especially for a kids show.
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>>93423158
>it's a terry beats a drug related villain by making them overdose episode
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Most of the DCAU actually fits that description.
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>>93423298
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>>93423158
Creators had enough control in the 1990s to fuck with networks.

Batman Beyond
>We want a more kid friendly Batman with a teenager young people can relate to. You know, something lighter and more fun.
>Fuck you. This is now the darkest show in the DCAU.

Rocko's Modern Life
>We want a female character with a hook to her.
>Fuck you. Here is a nurse with a hook for a hand.

Exo Squad
>Please make a Star Wars cartoon with spaceships and adventure.
>Fuck you. This is now a show about alien Hitler staging human genocide by launching them into the sun.
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>>93424480
You'd think there'd be labels on those things.
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>>93424639
>Dr. Hutchinson
>nurse
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It's not called Bad End Beyond for nothing.
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>>93424639
This. It seems like creators have very little to no control these days.
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>>93423158
I used to always nick name the series "BadendBeyond" someone is always getting fucked over by the end.
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>>93424758
>pay for hyena
>get mouse

Yeah, probably a good idea.
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>>93423298
>Kids, if you so drugs you'll overdose and die
Pretty good theme tbqh famigo
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>>93423158
just like justice league is full of sexual innuendo for a kids show.
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Any excuse to post.
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>>93425153
Yeah, but a third of those had later reappearances. Especially Inque, the Hunter, and the sound guy.
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>>93425153

I don't remember it well, wasn't it implied that Terry get mel's ass? Or maybe it was just a kiss.
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>>93425153
He never get Marina's ass too.
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>>93425279
I haven't watched in a while, but I recall that they stayed up through pretty much the entire night in his room at one point.

They were both in rough places and very into each other. Either they shagged or they spent a long night lamenting to each other as kindred spirits.

Or both. Both is good.
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>>93423298
Oh man, that really did happen more than once, didn't it?
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>>93424976
They really don't. If you take a look at what's 'popular' right now (Loud House, TTG, SU, Rebels, etc.) you'll see that they're very safe in both content and humor. Hell; Rebels is practically a fluffy hugbox when compared to Clone Wars and that was cancelled only a few years ago. I guess it pleases the twenty-thirty something year old neckbeard crowd (let's face it, they're the ones watching cartoons) who are terrified of change.
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>>93423158
Of course it was dark. Most of the fights took place at night.
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>>93425601
/thread
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>>93425339
I always thought they banged together that night, even as a child.

Terry thought it was over with Dana.
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>>93426763
Me too, desu
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>>93424480
>he fucking explodes
>only after turning into a Tetsuo monster
Jesus Christ, Terry.
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Anyone here think that Batman Beyond could've had a better rogues gallery? Blight was really the only good recurring villain. Shreik and Spellbinder had neat designs and gimmicks, but lacked personality.
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>>93428298
The problem was a lot of his rogues just ended up dying before they could establish themselves.
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Kobra could've been an interesting group for Terry to fight. Until you realize their evil plan is to turn into dinosaurs, for whatever reason. It doesn't help that Blight never returned after season 1.
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>>93428346
That just means Terry does his job well.
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>>93428298
The real problem with most of Batman Beyond's villains is that it was their very first iteration. Think about Batman's regular rogues gallery, a lot of those characters were not good the first time they showed up. It took a lot of different people handling the characters over time and messing with their back stories over and over before the definitive version of them formed. Like take a guy like Mr. Freeze for example, he was basically a guy with an ice gimmick when he first showed up. But over time he's become a very beloved villain and somewhat of a fan favorite even because of how they adjusted his back story over the years.

There's a lot of potential in Batman Beyond's villains to be the same thing, but a lot of them need more of an actual story than just being villain of the week.
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>>93423158
Its also terribly fucking written.
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>>93429429
>The real problem with most of Batman Beyond's villains is that it was their very first iteration.
No, the real problem with most of Batman Beyond's villains is that they're shitty knockoffs of preexisting ones.
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>>93430025
The only thing terrible here is your taste.
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>It's a "Villian suffers a horrific ironic fate" episode
That one where the dude sinks through the floor still fucks with me.
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>>93424639
>Exo Squad
>Please make a Star Wars cartoon with spaceships and adventure.
>Fuck you. This is now a show about alien Hitler staging human genocide by launching them into the sun.


we are friends now, anon

the contract is sealed
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One question I've got is what happened to Batman rogue gallery besides joker, Harley, freeze and Bane we never got any answers about what happened to them
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>>93424480
Why was Bruce so lenient on Terry body count
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>>93432749
Because he's too old to care.

Young Bruce would still try to save somebody even if he knows in the back of his head that he won't make it in time. Old Bruce doesn't even make the effort since he knows he can't make it.
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>>93432749
It's a different time. Gotham's changed, Terry's far less trained than his other wards, and in this dystopian cyberpunk future people do not fuck around. If he has to kill someone to make it back alive, so be it. And Bruce is a whole lot less morally scrupulous in his old age, and even before he was never averse to the odd bit of brutalization or permanent disfigurement.
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>>93425153
Never tapping dat ass is the worst ending.
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>>93423158
Remember the sequel movie were it was revealed Tim got fucking tortured to the point of insanity by joker and eventually killed him what was Timms problem
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>>93425153
>that oily slime woman episode
>anon just wanted to help his waifu
>she ded
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>>93432749
This is a Batman who's so beaten down and battered by the realities of life that he almost used a gun.
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>>93433031
Oh yeah. Man, that was fucked.
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So when did Superman get possessed by Starro?
After JLU?
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>>93432749
Most wwere not really his fault, and he either tried to save them or he had to fuck them up to even live.

Infact some were already dead anyways.
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>>93425153
>pulled into center of the earth
Christ, even as I watched that I felt bad for the guy. He didn't even really deserve it. He was just a thief. He's going to be trapped in the center of the earth forever. All the heat and all the pressure, and unable to die. Fuck.
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>>93434939
Not long before Beyond. He was wearing the black and white suit, so he had been getting up there in years.
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>>93424639
>MFW well never get to finish Exosquad or ever get Exopirates

It hurts Anon, the show was so fucking cool. Wolf Bronski is like the greatest name for a Pilot ive ever heard.
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>>93425226
While I see your point, I don't think it's implying anyone was deafened to death. Though shriek does return, his deafened state is consistent.
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Funny I just finish watching pic-related.

Thoughts?
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>>93425226
Read the asterisk on top, idiot
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>>93437104
more Joker wank

one of the best things about Beyond was that it wasn't pandering to Joker fans like the rest of the DC shows until this.
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>>93438142
Except it completely shits on joker during the climax.
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>>93439748
This

Terry was a perfect foil. How many other people have managed to get under Joker's skin that badly?
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*Hits the upgrade button*
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>>93428298
He turned the Stalker from a rogue into a super friend who, admittedly, did want to be the one to kill him, but that's sweet.
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>>93432696
Presumably dead, retired or serving multiple life sentences.
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>>93437104
That's not funny.

>>93438142
Yeah, all we got were the Jokerz which I liked, especially that one coward that leads Static and Terry into the trap during Static's time travel crossover.
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>>93435040
That was the only ending that stuck with me. Some of those people may have died gruesome deaths, but polka dot phase shift guy is getting sucked into a giant flaming ball of metal to be stuck there until he dies (if he can even die at this point), is completely powerless to stop it, and no one will ever care. That's fucked up.
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>>93444164
To be fair, he shouldn't have been such a dick.
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>>93440509
>upgrade

lolno, BB got the "edgy" just right without being hammy.
Only flaw it really has is many of the new villains have second to none backstory
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So how's Batman Beyond Rebirth? Anyone reading it?
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>>93425153
If it'll make anyone happy, Terry tapped dat ass in the comics when she came back and they entered a relationship.

Then Futures End happened and then Rebirth and now Dana is the waifu again
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>>93434939
>>93435054
My theory is that Staros couldn't control him all the time, but stillmake his existence unoticed. so there were moment when superman was actually himself and this is one of those moment he started to suspect there was a mole inside and asked for Terry's help, not knowing, HE was the problem.
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>>93444834
I am. If only for the nostalgia.

It's mediocre so far. But its ramping up. Seems to be taking place in an entirely different canon from the cartoon. More connected to the mainline comics.

Tim was never brainwashed, Joker was...."killed" in a car crash, Superman is Jon,
and Damian is present
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>>93432696
Mr. Freeze came back and later redeemed himself

Bane was dying due to all the Venom in him

Harley got old and her granddaughters are evil
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>>93444920
He asked about what happened to the rogues OTHER than the ones you listed.
Obviously he already knows that, you fuckwit.
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>>93424639
Paul Dini didn't have too much control, he just knew how WB at network censors worked; they basically only pay attention JUST long enough to see that their "standards" are being met, but once you meet them their ADD and their basic inability to focus on actual subtext or read scripts or overall lack of knowledge about scriptwriting means that they tended to get bored and look away after that, letting you get away with some pretty funny shit if you're clever about it.
Greg Weissman once said he discussed it with Dini, and Dini basically said it's all about placating them just enough so they feel like they've accomplished something by being there since moral watchdogs never really serve any other purpose and once you throw them their bone they feel satiated.
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>>93425153
Man, the terrific trio one was just brutal. Terry must've known what he did would kill them.
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>>93444875
Which comics?
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>>93445362
The ones before Futures End. Dick Grayson is around, there's a Catwoman who could multiply herself 9 times. Joe Chill's son is The Vigilante.
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>>93437104
I just rewatched it recently.

It was better than I remembered it being.
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>>93435040
>He didn't even really deserve it.

This is a guy who killed someone for the technology he used just so he could blackmail anyone he wanted for a sleazy talk show, and he was going to ruin the lives of Bruce and Terry just for lulz.

Fuck Ian Peek.
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>>93432696
>>93440590
The TAS comics deal with some of them.

>Clayface wound up stuck as a statue of the Grey Ghost
>Poison Ivy retired from crime back during House & Garden. The version in TNBA is a plant clone that gets killed by Batgirl using herbicide on it.
>Penguin becomes mayor, but is impeached because Batman is a lying, manipulative faggot. Despite that, he does manage to improve Gotham.
>Riddler reforms, but gets stabbed by Clock King when he investigates how Penguin became mayor since it was a bid to get Hill out of office.

Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.
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>>93444875
Really?
I have those comics and can't remember that.
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>>93445603
Very schway for terry and dana
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>>93423158
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>>93435040
Let's be fair, he had it coming when he tried to kill bruce. Speaking of bruce, how the heck did he get down to the bottom floor so fast while terry was rushing like a maniac?
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>>93446313
He took the elevator.
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>>93437104
What Joker did to Tim was heatbreaking.
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>>93446342
...I will accept this headcanon
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>>93430041

I remember on the show's commentary they said all the rogues were based off original ones but changed enough to be different.
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>>93445844
I don't remember what happened to Two-Face, Scarecrow, and Killer Croc at all, though.
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Did Bruce ever acknowledge that he was used to spermjack Terry's dad so Terry could inherit stately wayne manor?
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>>93446818
not canon
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>>93446818
I don't think Bruce knew at first, but I wouldn't be surprised if he learned about it before terry.
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>>93446954
It's canon.
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>>93446975
go to bed Waller
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Was the killer hired by Amanda any specific character I would have missed out?
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>>93446955
He did know, shortly after meeting Terry IIRC.
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>>93447361
Forgot pic.
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>>93447361
You know that red head from mask of the phantom?
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>>93447361

Andrea Beaumont, the phantasm
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>>93447402
Source?
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>>93447475
>>93447482
I doubt that's the same person. they just re-used the disguise. At least that's what I am getting from that.

I doubt Amanda would have purposely taken someone close to Bruce to make such a re-enactment.
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>>93447485
It'd be in the comics, hence the "IIRC".
I've seen the show a thousand times and it's not in there so it only stands to reason that, if I recall correctly, it's in the comics.
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>>93447511

Well it doesn't really make sense for someone to use the phantasm disguise instead of just being a random thug
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>>93447516
>IIRC
I have never known what it ever stood for.

Seeing the amount of BS, I saw in those, I have never considred any of the comic canon to the DCAU. Except that one who was adapted in an episode, and that other where Question and Flash explore Bruce's Christmas.
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>>93447591
if i recall correctly
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>>93447591
Why didn't you just Google it?
I mean, that's literally what Google and other search engines are for.

And hey, you don't have to consider them canon, just come to peace with them for what they are.
Semi-canon but it doesn't matter because the DCAU is dead and nothing will ever bring it back. We were lucky to get tie-in comics in the first place.
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>>93447531
Phantasm's appearance was known ever since her action in Gotham. I thought Waller was the one who gave her that costume.

So, you are saying, it actually was Beaumont who was contracted for the Kill and Waller didn't actually knew her connection with Bruce?

And Beaumont kept being a killer for hire after the Phantasm movie?
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>>93437104
I like it, but the idea that the Joker could make a chip like that is a little off-putting.
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>>93447736
Probably stole the tech from someone.

He had a lot of contact with evil criminals in Arkham and you just don't mind-torture a kid without some good tech.
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>>93447736
>>93447824
'Epilogue' implies he stole it from Cadmus.
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>>93435040
If he isn't killed by the heat and pressure when he gets there, he'll probably at least die of starvation.
Having to wait to die of old age is horrifying, but unlikely. And just being trapped forever is the worst end, but very improbable.
No villain deserves to be trapped forever, no matter what they did.
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>>93428480
They said they got sick of doing corporate villains, I can't really blame them honestly.
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>>93425153
Terry and Ten definitely fucked.
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>>93425153
Who was crushed by the building?
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>>93446954
Much like the entire DCAU.
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>>93425153
Who was the electricity chick?
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>>93425153
incomplete tranformation was the worst
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>>93424639
With Batman Beyond, Bruce and Dini wanted Terry to be an adult male character. However, they were told to make him younger for the kids to relate. All they did was take their original ideas and put it in a high school setting, basically.

It weren't a fuck you to the networks because they worked their way around it and didn't complain all too much to try to fuck with whoever. At the time, they found that it worked out making Terry a teenager because they could implant the thematics better i.e., effects on drugs/drugs are bad, dealing with relationship, family and the lose of a love one to children better that way without getting preachy. The episode where Terry had to take care of an egg actually won a few awards for being one of the best episodes.

They talk about it on the DVD commentary. Although, they did try to fight for minor shit, like one episode Terry was thrown through glass and the glass shattered in a realistic way with him getting minor cuts and bleedding and they were told "not to animate the glass that way."
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>>93448025
This. I always thought it were heavily implied in that episode too.
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>>93448224
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>>93448089
Terry's beta friend got a robo-waifu.
Girl got crazy obsessed and eventually blew herself up becuase friend dumped her
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>>93448025
>>93448280
And she's probably the best person too. Leaves her family but only because she knows they'll ruin her life and her future. Then works a low-tier job, and proceeds to give her brother the same chance.
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>>93437104
Held up surprisingly well.
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>>93448403
Oh, yeah, I remember.
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I want to be hired by DC so I can unfuck the Batman Beyond comics.
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>>93435040
Peek killed the guy who invented the whole phasing belt and staged it so to make it look like it was an accident. All to get those hot materials for his show.

Fuck Peek.

>>93445044
Weren't they becoming slowly unstable on multiple levels?
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>>93448224
Be glad he didn't caught a Red Lantern Ring's attention
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>>93448842
You know you're fucking crazy when a red ring doesn't want you.
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>>93445844
TAS Clock king vs Riddler sounds hilarious. Battle of the bowlers.
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>>93437104
Teenage me loved it for the super edgy Tim stuff. And while that's actually held up pretty well, adult me also loves it for its excellent character arc for Terry, and the final fight being Terry accepting the mantle of Batman on his own terms and delivering a 10/10 verbal beatdown in the process.
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>>93447626
Not him but, yes. It's fucking obvious. There is no other reasonable explanation.
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>>93449043
That being said, there are parts where the frame rate drops to like 10 and it's super noticeable. It would be cool if someone could upgrade that.
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>>93449120
I think he was talking about the animated movie, not the game it is adapted from.
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>>93449160
I'm talking about the movie too. There are bits where background characters are more jerky in their motion than cheap anime.
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>>93446708
Twoface sent himself to prison and probably finally got help after the whole executioner thing
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>>93445844
I think there's a page with the mad hatter older and frozen down in ice in some sort of prison or what have you.
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What happened to Paxton Power?
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>they somehow make Mr. Freeze suffer even more in this series
He was always my favorite recurring character in the DCAU which made his suffering all the worse
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>>93449524
I thought he got arrested
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>>93449984
Yeah, the Royal Flush Gang kidnap him and he hints at some valuable artefacts he got illegally and Terry gets him busted. Presumably this is how Bruce gets the chance to retake the company in ROTJ after a period of instability
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>>93432749
Batman's reasoning is that since prisons can't hold criminals, then hospital beds will. In the future not even hospital beds will stop some criminals but a grave will.
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>>93447438
Jesus did anyone from BTAS get a happy ending?
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>>93449550
Why could t they give him a happy fucking ending they should've just let him dick around here in the artic with those polar bears or at least reconcile with his wife
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>>93450526
We never saw nightwing on beyond did we? I wonder if he just started hating Bruce so much that he severed all ties with him including Tim and Barbara
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>>93447438
Isn't that Barb?
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>>93450580
Uhh yeah about that
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>>93450602
not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon not canon
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>>93450580
They briefly mention him in Return of the Joker, Terry saying all are bitter about Bruce, and Barbara suggesting it's even worst for Grayson, but we don't know much more.
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inque has a daughter that about the same age with Terry, maybe even older, yet she looks so young and hot that she could probably pose as an older teen without problems what's the deal here ? And Terry's mom is pretty hot and young looking too for a mother of two.
Speaking of inque's daughter, did they ever explain who's the father and what happened after that episode ?
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>>93450756
Unfortunately it is for some fucking reason
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>>93448281
I want to do such dirty things to her downstairs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObSZp6Q9WCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdqT2ryvfgs
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>>93450841
Well of course Inque doesn't have any imperfections or signs of aging, she's a fucking shapeshifter made of black goo. Why the fuck would she shapeshift wrinkles onto her goo face?
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Batman Beyond revived by Adult Swim when?

We need that final season like Samurai Jack
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>>93451014
Do we though? I didn't think there were any lingering plot threads that desperately needed resolution. "Epilogue" works fine on that front.
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>>93437104
Ace was no joke
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>>93450924
Terry was busy fussing over Dana when Max was right there.
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>>93450582
Godfuckingdamn kid, are you 12? Go watch Mask of the Phantasm holy shit
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>>93451173
I've watched it before. She just looks a lot like Granny Barb.
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>>93450929
No. Not good.
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>>93450602
>he's only been back for three
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>>93451263
Dick Grayson get turned into the Joker/Mr mxyzptlk in that one.
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>>93450756
Calm down Kitten...
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>>93450873
Might as well change his named from Dick to Cuck.

>>93450526
Ventriloquist reforms and destroys all of his Scarface jobs before having a nice, quiet career at Wayne Enterprises.
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>>93450841
Its the future, they have bio tech that allows you to splice your genes with that of an animal. Chances are good that available health care that keeps people looking and feeling young exists.
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>>93447511
That's literally the reason why she can't go through with the plan in the end. Because she's so close to Bruce.
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>>93447626
I'm pretty sure she wasn't normally a killer for hire. Waller probably just convinced her that Bruce wouldn't be around forever and this needed to be done to preserve his legacy.
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>>93432793

Naw, Bruce crossed the line awhile ago. It was heading that way which was why Dick Grayson took off in BTAS.

Then in Justice League he reprimanded himself during time travel shenanigans for not just beating the fuck out of a guy as the start of an interrogation.
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>>93447873

I always figured it was some Cadmus tech improved from Mad Hatter
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>>93451470
I can go with that, though I find it sad that she kept going making her life out of killing people... Maybe she went to become an government assassin to make things more official?

What I can go with was that Waller didn't knew about it and charged someone who was emotionally involved to do the job of a professional. Then again, maybe Waller hired her specifically because she thought Beaumont would understand the importance of creating a new Batman, though you usually don't need to explain to a professional killer the reason of their mission.

Maybe deep down, Weller wanted the mission to fail all along and subconsciously picked up the one person who will fluke the task?
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>>93435022
thats a good point, a lot of if not all the super gruesome deaths were because of the advancement of technology
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>>93451654
>Maybe deep down, Weller wanted the mission to fail all along and subconsciously picked up the one person who will fluke the task?
Could be.

I don't know if Andrea continued being the Phantasm, though. Maybe it was a "Put the costume back on one last time" kind of deal.
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>>93447438
Didn't she rape someone?
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>>93452041
which one?

And no.
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>>93424480

You anon dont know about online converters gif -> webm?
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>>93444875

Dana is the worst waifu. I'd rather have Max over Dana.
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I always thought that Curaré actually sliced and killed the police officers.
But it was shown that she "only" sliced apart their weapons, which caused them to "faint" or be "knocked unconscious".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mbx3syF04M
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>>93452817
shit like this really doesn't bother me because the author's intent is clear. they illustrate her just chopping up the weapons because it's "a kid's show", but it's obvious that the author's intent was for her to fucking butcher them
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>>93448281
>>93451106
>>93452564
desu I always thought Max was overrated. She just seemed like the corporate mandated minority sidekick mixed with Tim Drake's inexplicable hacking skills.
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>>93453094
>She just seemed like the corporate mandated minority sidekick mixed with Tim Drake's inexplicable hacking skills.
Or maybe she is just like this because they wanted too.

I mean, I know it's unrealistic to have a student actually be competent in the field they are studying, but it's a cape-comic cartoon. Have some suspension of disbelief.
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>>93453094
That's what Curare look like ? Why is Terry shock when unmask her
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>>93453733
Because she's hot.
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>>93453733
No. That's how she look like.
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>>93453733
Technically the one in the comic is Justice Lord Curare.
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>>93425153
I came here to post that.

Thank you
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>>93453930
What happened to her face ? I her origin story with her little green lantern brother, she has normal face
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>>93437104
i like how terry completely btfo of the joker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LikMS5gDDI
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>>93446007
It was after he broke up with Dana.

They broke up later too. :c
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Man, Batman Beyond is an awesome cyberpunk action show.
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>>93425153
Kinda sucks how Talia ended she really deserved better getting her personality overwritten by Ra's was a shit end for her
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>>93446955
Realizing you genetically chucked your protégés dad without even realizing it or even having sex with his mom
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Intro was hype as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMXjtvMAFlI
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>>93425153
>>93435040

>Pulled into the center of the earth
Yeap, that's what i a came for.
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>>93424480
>Doctor Shimmer-uh
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>>93432696
>Bane
He's the "Ravaged by Venom Use" in >>93425153.
>Harley
She quit, married someone, had at least one kid who is gone (dead?), tried to raise twin granddaughters with a proper upbringing but they ended up sucking Jokerz cock.
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>>93450756
Sadly it is in Beyond.

Beyond isn't the definitive Batman future (there are multiple) but Barbara's miscarriage is definitely part of Beyond's timeline.
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>>93452257
This webm is fuzzier than a furry wearing a fursuit.

Either do a proper job of converting or don't convert at all.
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>>93455269
The current comic isn't canon with the show.
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>>93450756
>>93450873
>>93458753
These comics were done without the input of anyone who worked in Batman Beyond and seem to stick closer to the regular DCU, so they're not canon with the show, just a separate continuity from it.
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Biggest problem with Beyond is that Terry didn't have a true arch nemesis like Batman did with the Joker

It doesn't even have to be the same "order vs chaos" bollocks, and for gods sake it doesn't need to be a joker rip off.

This guy would've been good as an arch enemy if he stayed alive. Could've made him similar to Norman Osborn/Green Goblin.
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>>93459136
Might be cool to have him be a corporatist archetype all about progress and profit, with Terry representing the common good and safeguarding the public.
>>
>IT'S SCHWARBAGE
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>>93459136
This is wrong because Joker wasn't Batman's archnemesis, and Batman was defined more than just the Joker rivalry.

Your complaint is like the one a few others mentioned where Terry's rogues aren't that special and barely different from Bruce's.
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>>93425153
Forgot about Bonk.
Joker straight up murdered a teenager.

I actually saw the edited version first where Joker simply used laughing gas on him so this scene was a surprise for me.
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>>93451061
Ace is one of the best things about the show that no one ever mentions. The fact that they were able to put the Bat-dog in the show in a way that felt totally natural deserves a hats off.
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>>93451061
Did Batman named Ace after the royal flush girl who dies in Justice League Unlimited?
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>>93425153
Did Bruce just stop caring or something?

The Robins never had this much leniency.

Except Damian. For some damn reason Damian is allowed to kill all he wants.
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>>93453501
Actually, Maxine Gibson WAS mandated to be put into the show. The reason season 2 of Beyond lags so far behind the first is because the honchos in charge of controlling the cartoons realized what Timm and Dini were doing, and they scrutinized the series even harder for it. The general consensus is that the first season is pretty fantastic, while the second one is mediocre at best.
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>>93459136
If Batman Beyond had gotten a third season, I'm more than certain they would have introduced a new villain that "retrieved" both Blight from the bottom of the dock and reconstituted Inque's DNA structure so they could both be back in the action.

Either that, or Paxton uses his dad's connections to find the last Lazarus Pit on the planet and throws his dad's irradiated corpse into it, unleashing a nuclear Armageddon in the process as his dad literally makes the skies burn.
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If bruce can come up with cures to so many poisons and even reverse gene splicing why couldnt he fix his shit heart so he didn't have to be so worthless
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>>93461897
>implying Batman doesn't kill
>implying he doesn't care
He doesn't make it his modus operandi to kill but he doesn't go out of his way to save a lot of them and usually let them fall off cliffs or kill themselves accidentally or let them blow up after he destroys their doomsday plan.

A lot of the bad ends are the rogues being hoisted by their own petard or is a consequence of being the only way to stop them.

Hell, in episode 1 when he's about to get beaten up, he still throws the gun away.
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>>93461897
>>93462199
Also Terry asked Bruce a few times about whether Bruce disapproved of how Terry handled a situation and Bruce usually goes "It was your call, I am fully behind whatever you do" or "I would not have done anything differently" or "Their actions caught up to them / they did it to themselves, it was out of your hands."

Except the April Moon episode.
He really didn't give a fuck at the end when he knew exactly what would happen. Not-old Bruce would've tracked down the doctor's lab and stopped him to arrest the last punk.
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>>93425153
>incomplete transformation
I felt horrible for that guy. Jesus, he just wanted to help. On the plus side, I absolutely loved that scene where he attacks her despite his incomplete form. That weird flesh colored/black tornado thing as they fought was one of the coolest things I remember seeing as a kid.

>revenge surgery
What was that? My memory's kind of fuzzy, though that does sound really familiar.
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>>93432858
>that one episode of JLU where they have time travel shenanigans
>they end up in the BB future
>Bruce tries to scare a villain into talking
>Old Bruce steps in and just starts beating the shit out of the guy
>"I can't believe I was ever this naive"
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>>93462373
April Moon
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>>93462471
I missed out on JL media when I was a kid (I blame Canada. Always missing a few shows here and there or airing them months/years after they aired in the US).

I seriously need to catch up on all that I missed out on. Sounds like I missed out on a lot.
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>>93462471
https://youtu.be/PETk8eBbfN0
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>>93425153
Forgot the hundreds of people that were probably killed in "Return of the Joker" while the Kill Satellite's beam was going through buildings.
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>>93462983
The chart clearly doesn't include the movie (and misses a couple from the TV).

We should update it.
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>>93462869
>"Wow, Batman played good cop."
>"Everything's relative."
HAHAHA THAT IS GREAT
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>>93437104
>death by gunshot was deemed too violent
>procede to edit in horrible electrocution scene
>all ok now
i don't get network censorship
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>>93432749
He was scared shitless of Terry, did you see what he did to all these super villains ? Old man Bruce knew better than to speak up against that ruthless motherfucker
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>>93432749
Old Bruce is actually Old Damian Wayne who goes by his father's name.
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>>93463716
So Damian went crazy and think himself as his father?
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>>93424639
80's was like that too.

>We want a kid friendly Ghostbusters cartoon since the movie was popular
>Fuck you. Now they fight Old Ones, Eldritch Horrors, literally go to Hell and is pretty much any anime
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>>93428480
Kobra vs blight
GETTER BEAM
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>>93462373
>quiet, shy, older bionic surgeon meets a lovely young lady
>they hit it off
>gangsters kidnap her on their anniversary
>force him to give them bionic upgrades or else they'll kill her
>he complies, they go on a crime spree
>Batman uses him as bait to lure them out and use a deadswitch phrase to blow up their upgrades
>surgeon discovers the lady he loved was part of the gang that was extorting him
>realizes he has nothing to lose
>kills the only gang member to evade Batman on the operating table, slowly, painfully, and while the guy is awake
>"I understand. Don't hold back."
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>>93444834
I missed the last couple, but it's had ups and downs in the first arc alone. Go ahead and check out out if you want
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>>93465462
Sadly the BSP nerfed the later seasons.
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>>93465577
JMS was too good for this world.
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>>93465431
It's not actually Damian.

He would've squicked out years ago when he had to bang his R'as-possessed mom.
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>>93447475
Man. I like that movie, but it sucks that the joker hijacks the story halfway through. We never got an explanation for how that mist made the phantom intangible
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