Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase? He's not supposed

>>93377574
Because he represents a part of the reader that can't let it go, that's why it's grows so much in autistic types.

Fanbases.

I think there's something genuinely admirable about his unwillingness to compromise his principles, however deranged they are. And I think it's meant to be admirable, too. None of the characters in Watchmen are truly good or truly bad, they're all complex with shades of gray.

>He's not supposed to be likeable.

You mean like everybody on Invader Zim?

>>93377574
is this loss?

>>93377599
>Ted Cruz cites Rorschach as one of his favorite heroes
>Ted Cruz does this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwF-Lib-lxI

It was the coolest fucking thing, before he gave in and endorsed Trump right before the election.

>>93377574

Becouse edge

>>93377606
Everyone in invader zim it's amazingly sympathetic.

Even the robot.

>>93377574
his fanbase is consisted of teenagers who found out about him on the web but didn't actually read Watchmen

>>93377574
See: Antihero
He operates on a personal (flawed) version of morality and the sum of his actions benefit the story.

>>93377650
>Even the robot
On hindsight. Gir is really terrifying.

Also I fucking see what you did there, OP. I see it.

>>93377574

most people can overlook a person torturing individuals and having mommy issues if they're the only person in the book that thinks genocide is wrong

>>93377574
>He's not supposed to be likeable
You mean like the majority of debauched and degenerate pop-icons today?
What the flying fuck do you mean?

>>93377676
>most people can overlook a person torturing individuals and having mommy issues if they're the only person in the book that thinks genocide is wrong
No one's saying it wasn't wrong. We're saying it was the lesser of two evils. The alternative was MORE genocide.

>>93377574
Because I like faceless character

>>93377694

this, characters who the entire story is about them being shitheads have huge fan bases like Walter White, Tony Montana and Patrick Bateman because they are le badass

>>93377638
>Ted Cruz cites Rorschach as one of his favorite heroes
source?

>>93377574
when it comes to satire there will always be people who agree with what you say instead of what you mean

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>>93377808
The alternative was POTENTIAL genocide. And what Ozy did was only a temporary solution anyway. Tensions will rise again because nothing was really resolved.

>>93377638
Oh, man. It was so sweet to see El Rato bow down to Big League Trump. Ted was Batman and Trump was Bane. And he broke him.

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>>93377574
>tfw you can relate to Rorschach's abusive childhood, stilted taciturn way of talking, pessimistic outlook, discomfort with sexuality, only having one friend who's obviously just putting up with you because he's a bit of a loser, having an alternate persona you consider your real self, constantly getting into fights and, worst of all, being a ginger

>>93377945
>And we remember how Rorschach took some asshole in a prison trying to make a name for himself and melted his face off.

Op you son of a bitch you tought i wouldn't notice

Fuck you

I like Rorschach.

He represents the question whether it is worth saving the world.

Veidt should have just pulled an ark with the best and brightest and asked Dr. Manhattan to take them to an Earth 2.0 while Earth itself burns in thermonuclear fire.

Of course Veidt's ego demands the saving of Earth itself, but still. Rorschach shows the world isn't worth saving, and the nuclear war will happen eventually (but not because of Ror's book. That is just a red herring).

>>93377574
Hes one of the most human and realistic superheroes of all time, he almost feel like a real person unlike most fictional vigilantes

>>93377574
A lie is a lie is a lie.

>>93377638
DAHHNAAALLDDD THE DELLEGAAATES

>>93377945
Hot damn, I can relate to that except being ginger. I got off lucky.

>>93377574
I agree and I think it's a pretty good neckbeard litmus test for somebody if they admire him. Although I'm at a loss over that picture you just posted.

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>>93377892
I don't normally do other people's homework, but this literally took 2 seconds to do.

Is there any other easy-to-google thing you need help with today????

>>93379189
>That Polygon headline
Typical

>>93377574
Why /co/ become butthurt when you like Rorschach and more generally every kind of rogue or "Edgy" characters?
It's like to pass as "more mature" you're supposed to like neutral, soft, justicier like Superman or some shit like that.
The autists here share some deep hatred of everything who remind them of late 80's and 90's because they associate this with the japanese edginess mongrels of middle 2000's.

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You can still like fictional characters you wouldn't want to meet in real life.

Rorschach is an interesting character. Unlike most 'edgy' anti-heroes, he's not just presented as this badass guy who beats up bad people and has a bit of a grey morality, but a deeply disturbed, hypocritical, lonely, sexually stunted and pathetic individual. People around him don't look at him and go "what a fucking badass'',but react to him like you would with a mentally disturbed person. They're uncomfortable.

He isn't even this 'lone wolf' who doesn't give a fuck and wants to do things by himself either. He misses having a partner and values Daniel as his only friend.

One thing I didn't like about his portrayal in the movie is how much 'cooler'r he is compared to the comic. Like when he jumps out of the window, In the comic he jumps out and immediately gets BTFO by the cops while they mock his plateau shoes and hideous smell. In the movie he flies at them and beats a bunch up.

>>93379517
I think that's what one of the biggest problems with the Watchmen movie was. It knew that most of the audience would be walking in looking for just another superhero movie, so it dumbed it down. It completely removed any parts that may be confusing or boring and replaced them with things that they thought would look cool.

>>93377574
>He's not supposed to be likeable.
that doesn't influence whether or not he's a good or interesting character

>>93377945
I never realized until now that Rorschach is what happens when Carnage turns out right.

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>>93377574
Fucker

>>93379284
If you think the only problem with Rorschach is the fact that he's "edgy" you really missed the point of the character. Also, why are these retarded posts always made by Mexicans with broken English?

>>93377574
>He's not supposed to be likeable.
In-universe.
To the reader it doesn't matter if he's likable or nice, we don't interact with him, we watch him and he's relatable.

It's the same with characters like Damian and other edgy characters with actual depth.

>Lonely and angry virgin
>Everyone is a degenerate but me!
> All women are succubus!
>Obsessively writing down long rants about this

Really makes you think.

My favorite character was Dr. Manhattan cause I genuinely felt for him and his predicament.

>>93379957
I know it's some busted-ass English, but he likes Rorschach and dislikes people who pass off anything that isn't Superman-tier boy-scouty as edgy bullshit.

>>93377574
What's the difference between liking Rorschach and liking the Punisher

>>93377676

So Rorschach was antifa all along...

>>93377574
He's the main narrator of the story and has a semi-noble death, plus he was a bad ass, he was fucked up and a bad dude but he never gave up on the Watchmen and wanted to do what was right. Way more likeable than that cuck Nightowl or that douche Manhatten.

>>93377574
You could say the message was loss on them.

>>93377599
This. It's not that he's right or good, it's that he sticks to who he is throughout the story and never changes his perceptions to please other people. He did what he genuinely believed to be the right thing, even when everyone else told him he was wrong. Even Ozy did things out of a sense of arrogance and superiority, whereas Rorschach only did what he thought would be best for others.

>>93377574
Effectively he's the perfect authoritarian. While others such as Manhattan tired of humanity, and were emblematic of egoist-anarchist freedom.
People like him because he's unwavering in his dedication to one singular goal, in the same way that an authoritarian state is united in one aim.
The key difference between him and Ozymandias is the difference between National and International socialism. Ozzy is concerned with the fate of the globe, as opposed to Rorschach who is more nationality based within his concerns.
I think he appeals to Americans and Western audiences far more than he does other cultures.

>>93380419
The Punisher wouldn't exist if he hadn't gotten laid.

Rorschach wouldn't exist if he had gotten laid.

>>93380781
>best for others
Nah he just had an objective morality. He didn't care about others at least not at that point. He simply did what he thought was right regardless if it helped anyone.
Also he's a hypocrite.

>>93377574
He was the only one who stood by his morals in the entire book

>>93377574
like wolverine, batman, lobo, etc. like >>93377587
said

>>93380782
the truth!

>>93377808
the problem with choosing to commit mass murder is that you're choosing to commit mass murder. Ozymandias was not and actor with perfect knowledge of all of the factors and how all events would pan out, it was his overwhelming hubris that allowed him to reach the conclusions he did, and in the likelihood that he got it wrong, all he did was spend a whole lot of time and effort becoming the worst sort of monster.

>>93377574
Alan Moore is a hack and accidentally made his strawman too cool.

>>93377599
Pretty much this. Rorschach didn't let the world corrupt his morals and fought tooth and nail against the degeneration of society.

>>93381660
The irony was that Rorschach was born out of the degeneration of society, and was an active part of the degeneration of society.

Literally using shit water to flush away a sewer spill.

>>93381680
Being a product of degeneracy doesn't mean you can rail against it.

>>93381680
>Being born into something means you can't shittalk it
Are you for real

>>93377574
Maybe, but he was written to be worthy of sympathy. And sympathy is not too far from actual admiration for many people.

Also, nice loss.

>>93381708
It just means your efforts are wasted

>>93377599
>None of the characters in Watchmen are truly good or truly bad,

The Comedian is pretty bad anon, just because Moore makes him his mouthpiece doesn't excuse him.

I don't get what the ink blots on OP's pic is suppose to be.

>>93382509
It's Morse code for 69. You know, the funny joke number. Good joke.

>>93382509
Yeah, I'm at a loss for words, too.

>>93377574
>character meant to be unlikable becomes the most liked
Yeah, never heard of that happening before.

>>93377574
He's well written and has a cool mask

>>93377921
So in the end Cruz will come back stronger than before and kick Trump's ass?

>>93377694
He is a manchild that wants superman to hug him when he feels sad. He doesn't understand that others may like something else than a father figure.

>>93377945
>all my fav characters I like because I can relate to them
>they're all awful people
Interesting.

>>93377945
People who describe themselves like this are the ones who look up to Rorschach. They think he's supposed to be a totally cool mysterious badass and not a disgusting autistic weirdo. It's like the kids back in the MySpace days who described themselves in a way they thought made them look like aloof anime heroes but really just made them come across as socially unaware at best and mental patients at worst.

>>93379605
See also the Comedian fighting back against his murderer. His suicide-by-passivity is extremely important to his character which in turn is extremely important to the whole story.

>>93381871
His younger self with implication he grew into a lonely goverment stooge.

>>93381871
He has complexity, though. His supposed sneering nihilism is a lie or he wouldn't have been so horrified at Ozymandias' scheme.

His behavior when he meets Laurie is also *relatively* sympathetic. He really did just want to talk to his daughter but when he's accused of wanting to fuck her he has a very abashed response (compare to his violent temper elsewhere). His "only once" defense of himself when Laurie condemns him for his attempted rape also has this plaintive, pathetic quality.

>>93377632
No, it's a Rorschach test, you see what you want to see, your brain gives it shape.

>>93383916
When I look at it, I see a profound emptiness, like a great sense of loss.

>>93380419
Rorschach is a parody of characters like punisher

>>93379605
I can't fault their casting for Rorschach looks-wise, though. I can't imagine someone who would fit him better.

>>93377654
People who read the book should probably like Daniel better

>>93384969
Nah, Rorschach was still great there.

>>93385150
Of course he is, he's a million times better. No one's saying Rorschach is a bad character, that's not the point of the thread. They're just saying he's a bad person. And not in an epic cool sociopath way, in a disgusting sad little autist way.

>>93379517
>>93379605
>>93383444

And also the minute long slow mo martial arts fight in the prison that has a basis in one single small panel on one page.

And also slo-mo in the fire rescue when in the comic Laurie never left the ship.

>>93383444
I never thought about that. I always thought that he didn't fight back because Ozy took him by surprise.

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>>93386426
He uncovered Ozymandias' plan and should have known there'd be retaliation. When he's attacked he's wearing nothing but bathrobe when he could have been hiding out somewhere with all his gear.

He didn't want to live in a world where an Ozymandias could do what he was planning. That he just let events in the form of Ozymandias overtake him instead of making at attempt to change them is another thing to think about.

>>93377574
>A character that is created to mock a certain group of people becomes an icon to them
People are dumbasses, not a surprise

>>93380146
Yeah but Rorschach at least had a friend who previously enjoyed his company.

And Rorschach is an active participant in his life.

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>>93379957
>always made by Mexicans with broken English?
>Hi i'm a self-centered fatass burger who believe mexicans are the only non-anglos browsing that chinese cartoon board and make some irrelevant mistake with my saxonic barbarian language.

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>>93378954
A lie of a lie

>>93388743
You clearly used English words in your post but all I can read is "jajajaja ese enchilada decapitacion Saint Seiya".

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>>93388786
>americans take bacon & fried eggs at breakfast
>americans support warmongers stuff of every president they have just because is their president.
>americans constantly talk forcing their reactions like on some MTV show and often with nigger slangs.
>americans says "freedom fries" instead of "french fries" just because some politicians were butthurt about the no for iraq war.
>americans are the only ones not interested on football and says "soccer" for it and believe only beaners call it like that.
>2/3 of the american population is overweight
>americans think black people are cool just because they don't gives a shit about "moral rules" concerning sex and alcohol when white americans need to wait their 21 years old.
>americans says "coke" for coca cola
>In america fruits and veggies are more expensive than meat and fat products.
>americans need a car to have a normal life.
>americans have just two holiday weeks on one year of working.
>americans prays god before every meals.
>americans eat junkfood every weeks.
>americans have delivery mans for McDonald.
>americans believe every other languages than english is spanish.
>americans are so self-centered that they invent special snowflakes meme accents for cities area like brooklyn accent or some shit.
>americans eat burgers and soda at toilet.
>americans believe they have invented pizzas.
>americans think their forced reality tv acting on their shows is real.
>americans can't drink alcohol and smoke on the outside.
>americans can't says "hell" at TV.
>americans transformed their own flag on a brand symbol.
>americans dads teaches to their childs how to use weapons and considers it's exactly like playing baseball with them.
>americans have the only dog breed with natural mental issues: the pitbull and it's still legal.
really make you think.

>>93388829
If only I could get you to take half the time you spent writing that and get you to spend it learning English instead, Hernandez.

>>93388829
>>americans have just two holiday weeks on one year of working.

Try zero

>>93388892
Zero mandated by federal law, other than national holidays. Most middle-class jobs have at least a week.

>>93388829
>americans dads teaches to their childs how to use weapons and considers it's exactly like playing baseball with them.

Can you please just take a breather and stop raping the English language so fucking hard? She's a slut and sure, you could say she's asking for it, but you're going to break her at this pace.

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>>93388885
>mfw when burgers are so fat to write a text about real facts concerning their strange specie because their fatness make them losing too much energy.
you need to chill out with the McDonald, Kevin McSmith Tyrone.

>>93388996
But your grammar is annoying.
also what the fuck it's your problem with not being phonetic? you saxonic piece of shit, go back to northern germany!

>>93377574
>Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase?

Well, one of the themes of the comic was that the characters were caught up in superhero-comic mentality and were never able to grow out of it. They stick to their immature and simplistic look on life desipte the world all around them being much more complex than that. They're caught up in their comic book world.
It's basically a cautionary tale read as an exemplary one.

>he's not supposed to be likeable

That's not the point, my dude.

The whole point of Rorschach is that he is the most 'human'. He is the only 'pure' hero, in that he remains true to his ideals and that his ideals were never corrupted. It just happens that that actually made him the biggest monster.

He is reflective of the reader in a way that most of the other characters aren't because everybody likes to believe that they would never compromise on their morals, when in reality most people would be like Nite Owl or Silk Specter and just be content to stay alive, have sex with somebody who they think understands them, and allow the world to just do as it does at the hands of more driven people.

why in every threads about watchmens involving Rorschach, there's a lot of people repeating:
>you not understand that character
why are enjoying it so much to play the 2deep contrarians? and there is always a different explanation written on an arrogant passive-agressive style.

>>93390783
It's not 2deep or arrogant, it just comes off that way to you because you can't speak English worth shit.

>>93390908
Shut up grammar nazi!
i'm shit at writing but good at reading, and I noticed it's always the same thing; with everything different interpretations of that character by people who believe they are right.
let's be honest, it's just a fag with a mask who behave like a serial killer only with criminals, we don't care if he's likeable or not likeable, he's cool and he has a hat.
that's it, why wanting to complicate it more?

i'm pretty sure the ones who complains because he kills people and still admired are batshit fans.
that gay mad man dressed like a bat who still can't handle the death of his parents at 40 years old and promote status quo moral for IRL commercial reasons.

>>93391156
>with everything
with EVERYTIMES

>>93391156
If you were "good at reading" you wouldn't somehow have missed the point of fucking Watchmen.

>>93377632
HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST NOTICED THAT

>>93390622
Solid post, my nig.

>>93391232
BUT I KNOW OZYMANDIAS WAS RIGHT YEAH!
anyway, I think the greatest dick is actually Dr Manhattan, not even Ozzy or Rorschach.
but it's more subtle to notice.

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>>93377574
I think it's pretty telling that Manhattan, basically Moore's self-insert as he clearly thinks of himself as a great creator far removed from the common limited human being, murders everything that he hates embodied by Rorschach.

Rorschach was a right-wing nutjob spawned by the gutter of humanity and dead set on combating depravity and hypocrisy. But he was honest and uncompromising. This always carries more respect than being some lenient wanker bending morals for the sake of the moment.

Funny thing is that with all his bullshit and nonsensical uncompromising politics Moore is more Rorschach than this grandiose superhuman persona he'd like to see himself as.

>never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon.

MUH PRINCIPLES is the very thing that shapes conservatism, as opposed to the "Greater Good" mindset of modern day liberals.

>>93392614
Yeah, Moore martyred Rorschach by making him, a flesh and blood human being a threat to Manhattan and Ozymandias by choosing to tell the truth.

>>93377857
Me too boi

>>93392614
>Manhattan being a self-insert
>Spends most of his life with no backbone

>>93392614
Manhattan sounds like based in those eastern religions when your spirit is so evolved that you lost interest in the material world

>>93393755
He became very materialistic though, it's all atoms and equations. Hardly spiritual.

>>93377868

So wrong to group White and Bateman in with Tony Montana. Walter White did some terrible shit but it was all in the name of providing for his family. No matter how deep he sunk into the monstrous persona that he became, he never truly gave up on his famiy, even offering his entire fortune for Hank's life when Hank considered him to be worse than dirt

Patrick Bateman was a wimp who had delusions of grandeur; if you read the book it's debatable whether he even did any of those murderous acts or if they were all just a product of frustration at being continuously overshadowed and shat on by his superficial peers who did it right to his face because they didn't even recognize him as Bateman.

Compared to that, Tony Montana was just a glorified thug.

>>93394348

if walt gave a shit about his family he woulda taken the money from what's her name and his former partner in like episode 3

>>93377638
Talked big game until his career was at stake.
Fucking coward.

>>93388829
>Being this fucking butthurt about being called a spic.

You third-worlders are something else.

>>93394396

Not true. Family was always what he valued most, but pride blinded him. He could never take Elliott's money because even though Elliott built Grey Matter on the back of Walter's work and stole the love of his life, Walter could never accept anything that he deemed as charity. This is why in the final episode, though he finally sees that he cooked for so long because of the the thrill and the power he felt to the detriment of his family, he explicitly forbids Elliott and Glenda from using any of their money to provide for Walter Jr and Holly.

If Walter truly didn't care about family, Jesse would have been dead by season 2, but because Jesse was like a second son to him, one that he thought he could fix instead of the broken down heap that was Walter Jr, Walt always had his back and put himself at risk to save Jesse whenever he fucked up. Even at the end he could have easily killed Jesse or let him get cut down by the SAW, but he didn't.

>>93392918
The "Greater good" was killing millions of people and leaving millions more scarred for a few years until someone pieces it all together and they go back to war. This time everyone dies.

If that's the case then you should've just let them have their little war. There'd probably be more survivors.

>>93377574
He's the last 15 seconds of train wreck footage. Edgelords and teenagers on /pol/ love that shit.

>>93392974
wtf are you talking about? Moore didn't approve of Rorschach's ideology. The praise the character received disgusted him. Look it up, dummy.

>>93395193

umm.....do you know anything about nuclear weapons?

I think it's pretty easy to sympathize with him. Dude had an awful past. It also doesn't help that the motion comic's delivery added a level of self-awareness that almost makes him redeemable at times, imo.

No matter what piece of media you make, there's always going to be people that take the wrong message from it. Look at all those people that watch Fight Club and think that joining an anarchist cult is a good idea? I don't want to be like them. I watch Fight Club and I feel confident in my decisions to carefully be a part of society while remaining cautious about what cultures are pressing onto me

Fuck Mark Millar

>>93395548
A better example is Camus' The Stranger
>nothing matters!
>who cares if your mom died whenever
>Go kill an arab
Like what the fuck? No.

>>93377574
Because Rorschach wasn't "the smartest man in the world" or a god. He was just some guy with a shitty childhood who got tired of scum raping and killing women and children and dedicated his life to getting them off the street. He had a lot of problems with women thanks to his fucked up mother but a women getting killed and nobody doing anything was what set him on the path to becoming a superhero, he even used the material from one of her dresses to be his symbol. He was one of the most unlikeable superheroes, one that never tried to make friends, yet he was one of the only superheroes who actually became friends with another superhero. He was someone who embraced nihilism, someone who stared into the void and accepted that life was objectively meaningless, yet while some would fall in despair he found strength, he had hope humans could overcome their circumstance and live their lives according to a moral code. That's the point of his conversation with Malcolm Long, Long is disturbed by Rorschach at first but he is later inspired by him to become a better person and then he gets killed by a narcissist who believes he has to kill millions of people in a false flag because he's so much smarter than the other 5 billion people in the world.

Rorschach views other humans though a glass darkly but thinks they can rise above and become better if they try, Ozymandias views other humans as children that he must guide. How you view the world determines which character you prefer.

>>93394348
>>93394348
>Walter White did some terrible shit but it was all in the name of providing for his family. No matter how deep he sunk into the monstrous persona that he became, he never truly gave up on his famiy, even offering his entire fortune for Hank's life when Hank considered him to be worse than dirt

Nope Walt had plenty of chances to take a huge payday and walk away from the drug trade. Walt was mainly motivated by his ego.

>>93396032

I'm not sure you understood what I was saying.

Family wasn't always his top priority, because like I said he got consumed by the power he felt as the best cook in the southwestern US, if not the world.

But though he had numerous opportunities to cash out, like you said, he also placed those he saw as his family above his lust for power. He stuck his neck out by killing Gus' guys to save Jesse when Jesse had gone rogue, he turned himself in to Hank and tried to save him with his entire fortune when Jack was going to kill him. You could even argue that he let Jane die to save Jesse, since Walt thought that Jane was going to get Jesse killed by OD.

He ALWAYS kept family as a core motivation even if he was also motivated by his own ego.

>>93395829
i really liked this analysis.

>>93396421
I think most, if not all of those times were not because he cared about his family more than the meth business, but so he could delude himself into thinking that he did. If he truly cared he would have cashed out. But he couldn't let himself think that he cared more about the meth than his family. It would cause a moral crisis and probably a complete breakdown. So he did those things just so he could sleep at night.

>>93377574
Same reason people like batman over superman

They think they look mature by doing it.

>>93377808
It's always funny how many people support mass murder when in RL we managed to get through the Cold War without nukes.

But nope, it's ok to kill millions to placate the Russians for 10-20 years until they get bored of waiting for aliens and start spreading communism again.

>>93377868

and Stringer Bell, and Omar, and hell, even McNulty

>>93377632
sheet

>>93398211
Batman is a far more interesting character and has better villains and stories.

>>93377574
that's because the people who like him aren't likable either.

>>93389051
Wir wollen diese Arschlöcher nicht! Norddeutschland hat sich schon weiterentwickelt.

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>>93398810
>Norddeutschland hat sich schon weiterentwickelt.

>>93378828
>whether the world is worth saving
What's the alternative? Letting it die? Then what? There would be no life in the universe to think and feel and create meaning. Yeah, I get the edginess of letting the world die, but if you really want the world to be quiet then you can just commit suicide instead.

>>93377574
He's Batman without Batman's golden rule and money.

>>93394869
It's funny because english is spoken by a lot of third world countries.
Also why are you so focused on the american continent ? People from other parts of the World browse that board you know? English is also an european language.

>>93392974
>Rorschach
>a threat

He's completely impotent.

Manhattan kills Rorschach as an annoyance, an insect. His notebook will not change a thing.

>>93377574
He's the best character in the story because all the others are worse.

>>93377632
>>93382839
...dammit
12/10

>>93377574
>Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase
Because he was right.
>He's not supposed to be likeable
Leave, faggot.

>>93400473
>His notebook will not change a thing.
The journal being found and Jon's final words say otherwise

>>93388829
>freedom fries
Kek I'm going to start calling them that

>>93402838
How old are you?

>>93402318
He was wrong you dumb trogladite

>>93403062
How was he wrong? Did you even read the fucking comic?
Fucking libtard.

>>93403088
He would've made all those people die in vain

>>93404375

That doesn't make Rorschach wrong. Dress it up with whatever fancy justifications you'd like; in the end Ozymandias is still a mass murderer. What he did was monstrous, devoid of justice, a perversion of the utilitarian philosophy.

Rorschach revealing the truth would have made those deaths "meaningless", but his actions would have been just. He was doing the right thing for the right reasons, but everything around him was wrong.