It sounds like Pixar has a bad one on their hands and they know it.
They've been pushing trailers for the Disney Frozen Olaf short that comes before Pixar's Coco. Sad part is, it has a better trailer than Coco itself.
Pulling out Frozen to push this movie is like Plan B. The emergency parachute.
>>93311947
What does Pixar need to do to regain its late 2000s status?
Hopefully it's good, but is "Day of the Dead" really the only thing people can think to set in Mexico?
>>93311963
Make good movies.
Also fix their character designs.
>>93312045
Drug cartel disney movie when?
This short was made to boost winter sales of Frozen merchandise, not to help Coco.
>>93312061
You can't fix mexicans
>>93311947
Worse than dory Last dinosaur and cars 3?
>>93312099
Lil coco the cocain bag who wants to make it to LA but ends up in Las Vegas
>>93311963
It needs a new leading group of directors/storytellers that can rival the founding members.
A new generation with there own creativity to continue the tradition of new original films.
But that is very unlikely to happen.
>>93312045
They're loudly broadcasting Diversity with this kind of production lately, but they're still unable to not make the movie about extremely -literally to a cartoonish extent- culturally supercharged themes.
Why not finding an interesting story about WHATEVER, and then just making the protagonist a spanish kid? The only worth they can think of for these cultures is their novelty value, like Disney with Moana; they simply latch by default into the possibilities for exaggerated colorfulness and pat themselves in the back for how progressive they are for "acknowledging" them
>>93312238
Where to find them though? Creatives are currently being raised on an inverted formula of worth: you start from the the "worth" (i.e. themes and elements that guarantee exposure) and then slap a (best-case-scenario) functional but bland story on top.
Real originality is simply not a priority anymore.
>>93312045
I want my fucking Lucha Libre movie, damn it.
>>93312617
WHAT ABOUT A MOVIE ABOUT LUCHA LIBRE BETWEEN CHILACAS AND THEY EAT TACOS AND SALSA
>>93311963
Nothing. They're owned by Disney now. All their talent will be poached. They mustn't outshine the bosses.
>>93312314
They started making this movie a long time before the "diversity push" people like you enjoy screeching about.
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>>93312238
Last time I saw something creative in terms of story it was in a cartoon from Malaysia about racing animal people.
>>93312045
I'd like a mexican horror film about La Llorona or better yet The White Death
>>93312314
Pixar was praised for their portrayal of an Asian-American boy in Up because he was just your typical overzealous boy.
>>93312314
Because then they're "acting white". It's a lose lose situation and there's less chance for gratuitous negative feedback if they make it extremely cultural
>>93312728
Up is from 2009; studios didn't feel the need to manically underline that sort of thing for attention yet.
>>93311947
They lost me when they tried to trademark the Day of the Dead
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/10/us/disney-trademark-day-dead/index.html
>>93312314
.>chord fingering is: EABbEbBA
Jesus that kid sucks at guitar
>>93312314
he looks like my cousin when he was a kid
>>93312675
>>93311963
all what's Pixar doing nowadays is making toy commercials and telling WDAS what to (not) do.
Sad to see them to like that.
>>93312314
>Why not finding an interesting story about WHATEVER, and then just making the protagonist a spanish kid?
Lilo and Stitch kind of did that is your tipical kid an her alien friend that just happend to take place on hawaii
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>>93312617
Already made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aoS52EX16g
>but no living person has ever visited Their world. Until Now.
Oh really?
>>93312314
>>93312774
The funny thing is that progressives can't even agree. The die-hards would say that Disney using the Day of the Dead to tell a story is appropriative but center left dems will just gush how cute it all is.
>>93315016
>So a Mexican walks into a US customs and border control
>>93312045
They could just make absolutely any movie like they always have but make the human characters Mexican.
This is the problem when they want to make a movie for a specific target audience. They go 10 times further trying to capture that target culture so much that their movie becomes almost a parody like that.
Just make something like Up or Ratatouille, a story driven piece that takes that closer look into the world of ...something, only make the main character a latino instead of generic guy #28175.
>>93312798
You're fucking stupid
>>93311947
>They've been pushing trailers for the Disney Frozen Olaf short that comes before Pixar's Coco.
That was just announced a fucking week ago dumbass
>>93311947
Why the fuck would a Pixar movie need help? Its fucking Pixar. The Olaf short is for Frozen
>>93315456
subtle, isnt it?
>>93312798
Nah they were doing this in the 90's too. After a while they saw Disney made Persian movie, Chinese movie, Native American movie, Africa movie and made similar complaints about films only being made to pander to a culture and not to tell a story.
Not enough people gave a shit to listen back then.
>>93311947
itll probably make money
>>93315501
Russel from Up is Asian but you'd literally never notice because they don't focus on it. It's a nice detail.
>>93311963
Cut the sappy. Just take a look at TGD.
>>93317741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHyY6pKp_x8
they just love this shit.
>>93311963
It's pretty much impossible at this point since the other animation studios are producing Pixar-quality films.
>>93318035
>other animation studios are producing Pixar-quality films.
errr.. like who?
What's the deal with all these Mexican folklore films?
>>93318043
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>>93318083
BOL creator is butthurt about Coco.
eh, more visual porn. cool.
>>93318147
More skeleton sisters you mean.
>>93318267
yay, more gurrl power.
If both Pixar movies this year are meh, then maybe we will finally have a foreign or indie film win an Oscar after so many years.
>>93312045
Honestly it's better than little dirty kids selling chewing gum, street vendors selling Chinese shit at a 50% markup, and explosive diarrhea.
>>93318147
He's actually really cool with Coco. It's the Tumblr fanbase that was butthurt about it.
Between them raising a stink about it and Fox no longer having the distribution rights for Dreamworks movies, they seem more willing to fund Reel FX's efforts.
>>93318332
Hey man, the more sugar tits we get the better.
>>93318592
ah, that's okay.
also fuckign Tumblr, i dont even know how to use it, i keep getting ads promoting trans and divershit.
>>93318526
dude.. it's pretty obvious what people think of animation as a whole, academy is no different.
https://youtu.be/Gk6jsoXPz-g
>>93311947
I haven't even heard of this movie, that's not a great sign (Like the good dinosaur, i only heard about it for two seconds when it was in theaters, and then not again until cinemasins on youtube covered it and it reminded me i hadn't watched it yet. It sucked.
Pixar needs to stop trying to drown its films in whimsy and focus on making good stories. Also their character designs are too bulgey and getting weird.
I'd rather Disney go back to 2D animation once in awhile overall.
>>93318839
oh my sweet summer child.
if you look for 2d animation forget about disney, for good.
>>93311947
Anybody else tempted to go to the theater, watch the short, and then go to the lobby and ask for a refund before its too far along in the actual movie?
>>93319116
worth a try.I'm seriously more interested in Lego Ninjago movie than Coco
I skipped Cars 3 already.
>>93312859
/mu/ please go, we don't like you
>>93319116
Nah. I don't even like Frozen all that much.
>>93318059
Probably that animation studio that made Despicable Me or the spin-off like Minions.
>>93320265
Belzebub! Illumination makes "movies" that are equivalent of hotdogs sold from a rusted trailer standing in the middle of street.
>>93320265
>>93320407
That gives it charm and crunch, compared to those overtly sterile weiners in tasteless bread that is modern Pixar.
Plus other derogatory remarks and food comparisons about Pixar or whatever.
>>93315799
Those eyes are seriously unsettling. Especially when contrasted against Book of Life's skeleton eyes, which look fantastic (especially Xibalba, with his little skulls for eyes, that's genius). It's really something when Pixar gets outdone visually by a fucking Z level studio who's made 2 movies; Book of Life and goddamn Free Birds.
>>93312045
Isn't Emperor's New Groove in Mexico? Or central america generally?
>>93315016
He wasn't alive, though
>>93321372
It's set in the Incas, so South American.
>>93318059
Despicable Me/HTTYD is on the same level as like, Finding Dory and Cars.
No one will ever match prime Pixar though.
>TFW you're genuinely looking more fowards to this then a fucking Pixar movie.
>>93312045
>He doesn't know about Legend Quest
>He doesn't know about the only kino Mexican cartoon that explore all Mexican mythology and traditions
>>93321452
That's a fake poster.
I thought there was just talk about it, but no confirmation.
>>93321467
I hate waifufags so fucking much. Legend Quest better be good, I'm gonna watch it right now..
>>93321519
https://moviepilot.com/p/the-book-of-life-2-is-officially-happening/4296713
>>93318679
>Naveen isn't human
>>93319105
Oh trust me I'm not delusional to believe it'll make a comeback but i keep holding out for some kind of Enchanted sequel where it's mostly animation with a few live action scenes (Or even a blend of the two Roger Rabbit style).
It's a pipedream, something that will never happen, but can you blame me for dreaming? It'd be a breath of fresh air but the problem is children don't give a shit.
I think the only way they'd do it would be if the company started bombing (Release enough "the good dinosaurs" and they're gonna lose a lot movie wise).
But again, just a dream. Sigh~
>>93319116
>>93319778
It'd be funny though if people did it en-masse which might happen anyway.
I like to see everything though but i'm waiting until it comes to redbox
>>93318839
>I haven't even heard of this movie,
Then you have been living under a rock
>>93319116
No? Because I don't like Frozen
>>93322293
>It'd be funny though if people did it en-masse which might happen anyway.
Its Pixar movie dumbass. People will go see it because its Pixar but continue on your delusion that Frozen will help elevate awareness.
>>93320859
>That gives it charm and crunch,
Not really. They're largely forgettable
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>>93319116
I think its really cute how this ant-iPixar anon tries so hard in every Coco thread
>>93321452
Nah, Book of Life wasn't good and the sequel doesn't look any better. /co/ was BTFO with Inside Out and Dory turned out to be good and I'm sure Coco will be the same but then you guys will still call it shit regardless.