Why does no one care that this movie is taking a gigantic shit

>>93185258
i totally agree with you

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends
>Misunderstanding Peter's development as Spider-Man this hard

>>93185258
>>No Spidey sense
>>No quips
You're basing this on...

>>93185584
The fifty 6 minute clips we've been shown of the movie and his appearance in Civil War.

>>93185623
Literally every moment he spoke in Civil War aside from the "responsibility" thing was a quip.

>>93185574
Yes, being Spider-Man is supposed to make him more confident, but he still shouldn't have friends.
And from what we've seen he acts exactly the same in costume as out.
Forgot to mention in the OP post:
>ANOTHER rehash of the Spider-Man 2 train scene

>>93185654
Harry, Gwen, MJ, Flash, Betty, Robbie, Johnny, etc etc. Need I go on? Peter has always had a lot of friends to juggle.

>>93185623
>>93185643
Also I forgot, in Civil War we saw Spidey "predict" things and see things coming from behind him. It's pretty obvious he'll have Spidey sense.

>>93185643
You must be from an alternate universe because he didn't quip at all in Civil War, he acted like a fanboy.
The only thing the trailers gives us "Hey, you're not the real Avengers" which is lame as fuck, especially because of his weak unconfident delivery.
He should sound like an asshole with the mask on, only Andrew Garfield got that, as bad as those movies were.

>>93185721
I agree that he should be kind of an asshole, but Spider-Man has always been kind of unfunny despite trying really hard.
He doesn't actually have to be funny to quip.

>>93185721
>He should sound like an asshole with the mask on
Instead of writing all that nonsense you could've just said you don't read Spider-Man. Would've saved both of us the trouble.

>>93185758
This sounds like the kind of excuse a bad writer would make

>>93185721
>my weakness, it's small knives
Trash

>>93185889
I think that anon is dumb but the Spider-Man persona IS an asshole. Remember how awesome and responsible and strong he thought he was when he was pulling up Gwen's corpse?

>>93185931
No one ever actually laughs at Spidey's jokes. He does it to be annoying and distracting. Sometimes there are some good ones but it's really not the point.

>>93185697
Robbie? as in Robbie Robertsen? And he started out as acquaintances with Betty at best.
Harry, MJ, Gwen were all in college. He wasn't friends with Flash till much later either.
And none of those characters besides Betty and Flash are in this movie. I wouldn't have a problem if Harry or Gwen were in this.
Peter did not have friends in high school. Liz would try to invite him places but he was such an insecure asshole he'd refuse and then get angry.

Peter Parker had no friends in high school. In college he had four then Gwen and Harry fucking died, not to mention Harry was kind of a dick.
Homecoming is high school Pete and he has a billion fucking friends and a girl that's already attracted to him before his Spider-Man confidence breaks in.

The first half of TASM almost got it right.

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>>93185758
>Spider-Man has always been kind of unfunny despite trying really hard.

>>93185258
He acts nothing like Miles.
>no quips
We must have not watched the same trailers.,

>>93186012
>Peter Parker shouldn't have any friends!
>list of some of his many friends
>Th-those were all later! Peter didn't have friends in high school! Peter didn't have friends in high school! Peter didn't have friends in high school!
I'm gonna stop this right now lol. I think you're gonna pull something.

>>93185944
It was great, and at least an attempt at a correct version of the character.

Marvel should've just did a live action adaptation of Spectacular.

>>93186038
At most Miles acts like a flimsy Peter knock off.

>>93186061
He didn't have any fucking friends in high school and 4 friends, two of which die, isn't having a lot of friends.
This movie gives him a Ganke and Peter has never had a Ganke. Harry was his best friend, but they didn't have a relationship like that. He had a pretty fucking terrible relationship with Harry actually.

>Another Spider-Man movie without Parker Luck

>>93185975
This also sounds like the kind of excuse a bad writer would make

>>93186033
In universe most people find Spider-Man unfunny.

>>93186061
Not that anon but he's talking about how he didn't have friends IN HIGH SCHOOL in the comics. At most Betty might've been his friend during that time. He started having friends after being in college.

It's only with the push to keep doing High School Spider-Man that they move all his friends over to high school era in stuff like Ultimate or Spectacular or whatever.

>>93186117
This is Ultimate Peter who had a circle of friends.

>>93186200
>>93185975
>>93185758
>>93185954
>>93185721
I seriously hope none of you are Max Landis.

>>93186236
>3 of those are me
Yeesh. What's Landis about that? I've never felt so insulted before and I feel like I need to change my opinion.

>>93186200
Yea his jokes are seen as an irritation by pretty much everyone.

>>93186223
Ultimate Peter was a piece of shit though.
Everything about Ultimate Spider-Man was terrible.

I care... I don't like the changes in Peter/Spider-Man life, it doesn't feel like him! from the school friends to his "father figure", a lot of shitty changes, if these changes were not in an MCU movie all would be offended.

I will see the movie... but I'm not hyped and I'm saying this as someone who was really excited with the addition of Spider-Man to the MCU, but not like this, not in his first individual MCU movie.

>>93186464
I think the sequel will be better

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Spiderman is a giant fanboy.
But yeah, not to hyped for the movie, to be honest

>>93186308
This is the worst taste I've ever seen, and I've spoken to people who call Steven Universe flawless.

>>93185258
> Photography
> 2017

Because anyone who actually cares about Spider-Man has long since given up trying to yell him back into shape. We're just waiting for the ride to end at this point.

>>93186966
He means too much to me to give him up.

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>>93185258

It's almost like this movie doesn't take place in the Earth-616 universe or something

It would be complete AIDS cancer if they use the same plot point's from Raimi's Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man

and that's basically what you're asking for

>>93187287
I love him too anon, but I can't keep watching him hurt himself like this. Peter needs help.

I'm not looking forward to this.

>>93187326

Exactly. Anything outside of 616 is trash

>>93187467
616 is trash my nigg

>>93187374

What's aids cancer is the shit they're giving audiences with this dumpster fire. Why call him spider-man when he's a boy. It alienates a lot of fans actually because it's a high school movie. Fuck high school movies about nerds and proms. This is essentially a children's flick.

>>93187511

This shit's going to crash and burn

>>93185258
It was shit the moment no punches was a thing.

This could be a /pol/ wet dream cast and it'd still be shit for that alone.

Can't believe only MCU movie looking forward to this year is Thor.

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>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends
You had me until that.
As if a robot could ever pull ass the way Peter did.

>>93187374
Raimi and TASM didn't do it right though.

>>93185258
Ignoring it will make it go away faster. Look what ignoring did to Fantastic Four.

>>93187383
The story was mangled but the best live action Peter I've seen was in the Broadway musical.

>>93187612
>As if a robot could ever pull ass the way Peter did.
Being Spider-Man made him more confident.

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>>93186308
Oh yeah! Ultimate Peter was so terrible, right? He was one of the few good people in the Ultimate Universe.

>>93187678
Haven't read the old stories in ages but didn't he always have a hot bitch parade around him? He just ignored them because he was too hot headed.

If anything, Peter was on the path of school shooter with the bottled up rage and ignoring of people that did care for him.

>>93187852
Liz Allan would invite him to go bowling with her and Flash and shit but being a girl being nice to you doesn't mean she wants to swallow your nut.

>>93187926
Most robots fail at getting the opposite sex to acknowledge their existence, let alone hang out. So I'd say Peter was doing better than them.

>>93185721
This guy has the audacity to claim that a character from the MCU DOESN'T quip. This is some next level shilling.

>>93187999
I've been a robot for 7 years and a girl asked me to prom a couple of months ago. Women like to fuck around for shits and giggles.
And from my experience on Facebook pretty girls can be really nice even if they're not attracted to you at all.

>>93187740
What made me mad in this is that Jessica is SUPPOSED TO BE PETER, it makes no sense for her to want Otto dead

>>93188273
She has Peter's history but she became her own person too.

I was in a test screening for it.

It's garbage.

>>93187532
>Why call him spider-man when he's a boy.

Why don't you ask Ditko or Stan Lee

>>93186554
>Marvel Adventures

was that the last time marvel was worth reading?

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>>93188374

Just depends on your personal taste

But will it be universally praised like every other Marvel movie?

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends and an interest in photography.

I was born in 95 & never grew up with a comic spiderman who acted like this

It's time to move on, grandad

>>93188468
I'm 18 nigga shut the fuck up

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>>93185258
According to the novelization, he's afraid of heights too and has to overcome it.
Spider-man.
Afraid of heights.
What a disaster.

>>93188767
He swung from a bunch of high shit in Cvil War.

>>93188767
>>93188939
Wasn't that from him climbing up the Washington Monument? I can see that being worrying for Spidey considering there aren't many places to swing from there.

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>>93185258
I agree.

Thinks I want in a Spider-Man film.
>Radioactive Spider
>Crusher Hogan
>Uncle Ben's Death wherein it's a home invasion.
>No Love Interest
>Peter stitched his own costume and it looks like a halloween version of the regular costume. As the movie progresses and he gets more and more fucked up from the villains he gradually begins replacing the lost items with their upgraded versions so by the end of the film he's wearing his classic suit.
>Mysterio as main villain with Scorpion as the muscle.
>Web Shooters
>Spider-Sense
>No Underarm webs (I can see the advantages of making them retractable but I want an all cloth costume).
>Daily Bugle and JJJ portrayed by JK SImmons
>Peter can throw a punch but it won't do much good against Scorpion.
>Norman Osborn in the background and takes the serum at the end of the movie.
>Hour and forty five runtime. Trim the fat and make this movie great.

>>93188273
She's Peter with an X chromosome. Research suggests that because women are more skilled with regard to emotion recognition/expression, therefore they are also more likely to be ruled by it. Guys unfortunatley experience emotions but rarely develop positive emotion focused strategies until they encounter someone with secure attachment.

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends and an interest in photography.

Yeah for like, 14 issues.

>>93188468

He's been a photographer for forever, this should have been in the movie. I guess he takes....selfies? That's a dumb evolution, he should be a instagram guy. Photography is still very much a thing today, even if you do it totally digitally or with a phone.

>>93189139
>Peter stitched his own costume and it looks like a halloween version of the regular costume. As the movie progresses and he gets more and more fucked up from the villains he gradually begins replacing the lost items with their upgraded versions so by the end of the film he's wearing his classic suit.

I wish they adopted the shit from Cameron's script where he had a homemade costume, but since he became famous there were more professional Spider-Man costumes in Halloween stores and takes one from there. Didn't they do that in Kick-Ass though? How was Kick-Ass the best Spider-Man film?

>>93189139
>No Love Interest

What I really want is a failed love interest.

>>93185258
>Why does no one care that this movie is

No one cares about Iron Man 7 guest starring Spider-Man because it looks terrible.

>>93189264
This is a high school movie.

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>>93185258
>Why does no one care that this movie is taking a gigantic shit on Peter Parker and Spider-Man as a character?

A Better question is why do faggots want every single mainstream iteration Peter Parker to be a proxy of 616 Peter Parker?

Jesus, sometimes even a hint originality in a new interpretation can make that interpretation interesting, and just about every MCU hero at this point has been pretty distinctive from their comic counterpart. If MCU Spidey was just an adaptation of previous versions of Spiderman, then what's the fucking point of bringing him in at all? We had that in two separate franchises already and it sucked the second time around.

>>93189587
Because neither of those franchises did it right.

>>93185258
>Even the story is taken directly from the first few Miles comics
You've never actually read any of those comics, have you?

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends

Confirmed for casual as fuck Raimifag.

Read a comic faggot.

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>>93185258
>No quips
Um...

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>>93189459
I'd be cool with that. Would you have it be with an established love interest or someone new?

>>93189587
I think what they're most upset by are the lack of certain characteristics they would say define Peter's personality that would transcend all universes because they are such a core to his being. Kinda like when Doc Ock erased Peter's mind and he only had were the ones that Ock accessed, coincidentally were the ones that mattered.

>>93189431
>How was Kick-Ass the best Spider-Man film?
I would never have thought to make the comparison but now I realize there are a ton of similarities. Sick references bro.
I am being sincere.

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>>93187678
>Being Spider-Man made him more confident.

Read a comic, dipshit.

>>93185258
>anger thread
lol no thanks /pol/

>>93189779
I own them, fuckass.

>>93185258
Why? cause i hope this movie fails so bad sony gives the rights back to marvel.

>>93189897
What are you attempting to prove by posting a picture of Peter after he became Spider-Man?
And Betty is an older woman.

>>93189801
Read some Lee & Ditko Spider-Man you piece of shit.

>>93189881
>Would you have it be with an established love interest or someone new?
Probably Liz, or maybe MJ. I actually had a Spider-Man movie series planned out that I wanted to do.
They were gonna be animated and each one stylistically was going to be based off an era of Spider-Man comics.
The first movie wouldn't take place in the 60s but the clothes would be reminiscent of the 60s and only 60s music would appear in the movie.

But that was just one of my ideas for a Spider-Man movie series. I have had a lot of ideas regarding Spider-Man.
I would script them if they weren't a waste of time.

>>93189431
>>93189881
Millar actually said his pitch for Kick-Ass was Superbad meets Spider-Man.

>>93190050
Try opening 'em up and actually reading them.

>>93190148
You should, see here troglodyte: >>93189897

>>93190334
And we got the best Spider-Man as a result.

>>93185258
Because nobody actually cares about Spider-man.

>>93189897

>Hey, where were you during that whole disaster?
>Hiding in a closet, cause I'm a pussy
> Oh FUCK DAMN PULL OUT YO DICK PETER CAUSE IMMA SUCK IT NOW

Jeez, Lee and Ditko didn't get out of the house much, huh?

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>>93185258
so saimi's spiderman is still the best one
Yes, character development seems to be no existant now a days

>>93189667
There is a happy medium somewhere in between the two franchise. Toby did the shy awkward nerd well, but didn't act all that different after becoming Spider-Man. Andrew had the confidence of Spider-Man, but lacked the shy awkward nerd part.

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends and an interest in photography.
Since fucking when?
My god you moviefags are the worst.

>tony built his webshooters
>tony built his whole suit
>tony built his costume classic design
>tony built his fucking catch frase
>tony built his dick inside aunt may

I wish Tony went mad and became Iron Goblin and act as main villain.

The right way to do this shit:
>shows pre civil war scene
>tony will just give peter one of his prototype ironman zerosuits
>left peter alone in the lab while he went doing some other shits
>peter painted the suit the way it is
>built better web shooters
>tony just built his eyelenses and mask with the voice comander

>>93194195
Homecoming should've been the happy medium, the best of the both worlds, but instead it's bullshit.
Which sucks because Tom is perfect for the role physically.

>>93185721
He quips better than in the Raimi movies
>It's you who's out Gobby!!!
>OUT OF YOUR MIIIIND

>>93194261
I like that Spiderman didnt make his own suit.
Tight fitting spandex, or whatever semi-leather clothing most movie Spidermen have- that looks expensive and complex to manufacture, and mantain. Clothing rips and tears during normal usage, Spiderman level combat probably rips it apart constantly. Peter doesnt have the funds to MAKE such shit, let alone the gear to repair it.

>>93189264
Not even then. Flash was never a bully the way these modern movies show, he was more like a friendly nemesis. Pete was often roaming the halls in the same group as Flash. Pete constantly turned down dates.

This Steve Urkle persona Pete is supposed to have is a fabrication of Sam Raimi, not any comics ever.

Also, doing a modern rendition of Spider-man in this day and age, it makes sense he'd have one or two friends. Geek and nerd culture are now more widely accepted, thus nerds hanging with each other is nothing new.

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>>93194302
He should at least create the design. His first suit being like that first one of captain america.

Them stark just improve it with a lot of shit.

>>93194261
>tony will just give peter one of his prototype ironman zerosuits
>its iron spider like, them peter says to jarvis change the color to red and blue, while looking to a picture of captain america

>>93194298
Spider-Man says shit like that all the time. It's just that Toby "Apple Cider" Maguire botched it.

>>93194361
>Geek and nerd culture are now more widely accepted, thus nerds hanging with each other is nothing new.

Peter Parker isn't INTO NERD CULTURE. HE IS A NERD. HE'S NOT A SCI-FI LOVING AUTIST. HE'S JUST A REALLY SMART KID. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY FUCKING FRIENDS. I DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING FRIENDS. THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE HIM MORE RELATABLE TO NORMIES.

Its like you guys are forgetting he's supposed to be a fucking kid.
He has a long ways to go before he can be a genuinely unfunny fuckup ya know.

>>93194482
True but even then there was hardly quipping outside that and Macho Man, which arguably was awesome but the delivery was still a bit bleh. It just felt like they tried to get the quips out of the way for the drama porion

>>93194492
You aren't even hiding your projecting. All that's missing is reeeeee. Grow up, stop acting like a child. Just because you're a complete loser doesn't mean Peter has to be. he can be a social outcast and still have some friends, you fucking autist.

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>>93194261
>tony built his webshooters

>>93195046
Peter is a loser.

>>93185258
The biggest crime is that this isn't in the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWVYfo0zd8

>>93195678
No he was an invisible resentful misfit, never a loser until Raimi.

>>93195974
>He was a loser, but not that kind of loser

PS4 Spider-Man will be a better adaptation

>>93185258
What exactly does peter parker sound like to you?

I liked Tobey Maguire's Spiderman.

>>93196084
I don't know to describe the Spider-Man voice if you don' know it.

If I recall correctly, Josh Keaton did it perfectly in Spectacular.
Drake Bell isn't too terrible at it.
Andrew Garfield attempted it and failed.

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>>93191175
Love Spider-Man 2. Favorite Spidey movies hands down. The first Spider-Man movie immediately following and stragely Spider-Man 3. I wasn't even intending to put the Raimi movies first. Now the real question is whether I deccide Amazing Spider-Man 1 or 2 was better.

While I feel like 1 was the more "solid" movie that was focused on telling a singular story, I felt like the second movie gave me more of what I enjoyed from the first and some of the most widely inconsistent acting I've ever scene. For every moment with Andrew Garfield we got another with Dehann who absolutely killed it. The movie was too concerned with trying to set up for a Sony film universe when it should habe been concerned with telling the best Spidey story they could have told.

When the 2nd movie was leaked to youtube I downloaded that like no tomorrow and I gotta say, the movie defied all expetations while simultaneously proving to be a movie without serious substance. The movie is all surface level hints and what could be a part of the universe but nothing is ever addressed in a meaningful way.

>>93194261
having peter have a relationship with tony was a mistake in the first place

>>93185258
>Peter Parker is supposed to be an almost /r9k/-tier loser with no friends and an interest in photography.
No, he isn't. He was never meant to be that. Read comics.

>>93186012
He dated Betty you idiot.

>>93185258
IWhy does no one care that this movie is taking a gigantic shit on Peter Parker and Spider-Man as a character?
This is the 500th thread since announcement asking the same retarded question. The reply is the same though. Nobody cares if spider-man doesn't live up to YOUR standards

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>>93196458
>>93196467

>>93185697
>Also I forgot, in Civil War we saw Spidey "predict" things and see things coming from behind him. It's pretty obvious he'll have Spidey sense.

It depends.

The Thor movies pushed hard on the whole "NO WE ARE NOT GODS THIS IS ALL JUST SCI-FI PLEASE DON'T MISTAKE ANY OF THIS FOR MAGIC GOD PLEASE JUST RECOGNIZE THAT NO MATTER HOW IT LOOKS IT'S ALL SCIENCE," but then we have Thor visiting a magical well of visions in a subsequent Avengers movie, and have Amora showing up in Agents of SHIELD and described as a sorceress.

Different writers/directors can and do sometimes lean different ways and include differing interpretations. It's possible the folks responsible for Homecoming will ignore what was implied in Civil War.

I'm not saying it's a certainty or that we have cause to say what will or won't be, just that we have to accept the reality that sometimes there will be this sort of dissonance between different creators' visions.

>>93194302
>Peter doesnt have the funds to MAKE such shit, let alone the gear to repair it.
Writers and artists made it a point to show him constantly sewing his own costume, or having MJ do it for him, sometimes May if she remembered he was a spider. Later on Reed gives him a suit made of unstable molecules so that doesn't happen again.

His daughter did the same till she got a literal warehouse full of her costume.

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>>93185258

I mean I WOULD be mad, but the upcoming Video Game looks like it might not be shit so Im kinda happy focusing on that

>>93185258
>They turned him into white Miles.
No, they did not. Miles is completely neurotic and never, read my goddamn lips, NEVER wanted to be Spider-Man. Ganke pushed him into it, and then he quit, and then Jessica dragged him back into it. Peter in this movie is all about being Spider-Man, and his motivation for becoming Spider-Man is still the same. He also has quips out the ass, what the fuck is wrong with you? His Spider Sense in the MCU are his ridiculously enhanced senses, by the way. That's why he has the reactive goggles.

>>93196879
It's true though. Peter was normalfag-tier. He was always that. He had hobbies and aspirations.

>>93185258
Because I dont care about this movie at all in general

In todays laughably oversaturated market, its yet another MCU bright colored cqi shitfest with an "epic" plot. To be honest if they wanted to do something different for once/ get me interested, they should have just done a street level spiderman comedy film (see: something like Superhero Movie)

You can still have Vulture as a joke villain doing heists and with a big plan

>>93186012
has one asian fat loser friend and 1 black rebel girl that doesn't fit in friend

>dude has a billion friends

stark isn't his friend he's his boss he's taking a mentor role, like anti-j.j.

i don't think you either understand spider-man or what you saw in trailers.

>>93186200
because he's making fun of that person, so they're annoyed by it. not because it isn't funny

dude you have some sort of awareness of social ques and reading comprehension issues.

>>93196444
It's called synergy

/co/ has been shitting on this movie 24/4. And every fucking day, we get a retard going "hurr am I the only one who thinks this suckz?"

>>93185258
> guys, guys, guys! I made another thread telling you why you shouldn't like this movie!

Get a fucking hobby. Is there anything other than Zack Snyder which you actually do enjoy?

>>93198292
>>93198342
Thank you for bumping the thread with your tears, mousefaggot.

>>93185258
But Anon that would require Miles to have any discernable or memorable quirks or traits other than melanin

>>93198392
> doesn't know how sage works.
> still thinks the entirety of /co/ is just him arguing with only one other person.

Honestly, now that I think about it, I'm not even sure you actually enjoy any of Zack Snyder's movies since you seem to prefer spending your time arguing about them on the internet rather than watching them.

>Tony ignoring a criminal who just fucked up a boat with dozens of people on it
Was this during Civil War so Tony couldn't afford to do something about Vulture?

>>93185623
When he was about to get hit with shield from behind he jumped it

>>93198572
Oh so you've watched the movie already huh.

It should be obvious that trolls are just making shit up now to see what will "stick" and what they can run with in their 24/7 effort to shit on the MCU movie they fear the most.

Spider-Man challenges their core belief that only the most iconic heroes exist at DC, but now that Spider-Man is no longer another company's exclusive property and has now joined their evil MCU nemesis the situation has just been escalated. And I mean, let's be honest, there's absolutely nothing this movie could do, pull off, or potentially manage that they wouldn't shit on.

If Spider-Man doesn't punch people than it's kiddy shit. If Spider-Man punches people then "it's not my Spider-Man hurrrr".

If Spider-Man uses quips then it's MCU trash. If Spider-Man doesn't use quips then "Why do they have to butcher the character to make the movie seem edgier?"

Fuck, Zack Snyder could direct this movie and they'd still hate it.

>>93188442
Yes

>>93185654

>ANOTHER REHASH OF IRON MAN FLYING
>ANOTHER REHASH OF SUPERMAN USING LASER VISION

KYS you absolute fucking retard

Man I fucking hate Spider-man 2

>WAHHHH WAAHHH I DUN WANNA BE SPIDER-MAN WAAAAAAA
>Punching each other in the head 50 times in a row with no consequence to either
>Doc-ock being able to withstand 50 punches to the head from Spider-man
>Doc-ocks shitty ""costume""

>>93185258
How many more threads like this are needed? You haven't seen shit and are jumping to conclusions. Also, not comics Spider-Man, it's movie verse. You want comic Spidey read a neck issue or current comic.

Has no quips? Shut through fuck up.

I wish it was Milo just to really, really pissed you butthurt assholes off.

>>93197194
Homecoming has like 14 different writers.

>>93197564
That's because Lee & Ditko couldn't write. All of that has been retconned at this point, and for the better. Peter Parker is supposed to be a poor loser with no real friends.

>>93197989
There's also Liz, Flash, and his other friends that we saw in the set pictures.

Peter isn't supposed to have a close friend like how Miles has Ganke.

>>93198631
spoilers are out from the novelization.

>>93198744
You're retarded as fuck and the reason why nobody takes superhero films seriously. I can't criticize Marvel without being a DC fan?
If you're a fan of something you should be even more critical about it. Sorry I don't like shit.

>>93185258
Yup. You called all the important points.
I give no shits about this film, and won't support it with my cash. It's all about sending a message, so I did pay cash for Ants! and the 3 Cap films.

>>93185654
>Another rehash of spider-man 2

Every spider-man movie except for Spiderman 3 has been a worse version of spider-man 2, a dejected scientist creates a some technology that makes him Eeeviiiill for whatever reason

>>93187648
This is the truth right here. People think that just because another adaptation used a plot point poorly, then it should just never be attempted again ever. I'll never be able to wrap my head around people thinking that the plot points themselves were what was wrong with previous adaptations.

>>93203512
Thank you. Again, I rather see Uncle Ben get shot again if it meant it a more accurate movie.

>>93203512
Honestly I'm glad they aren't doing it again, if only because I doubt they would do it with any degree of accuracy at all. They do it better justice by building it up as an ominous event hanging over Peter than thrusting another poor adaptation of it under the spotlight.

>>93204994
Weak photoshop anon All you did was change the title to Spider-Man Homecoming, but we all know it's supposed to be Iron Man Homecoming.

>>93204994
>>93205663
(you)

>>93197542
>NEVER wanted to be Spider-Man
I dont thinks that its because he didnt want to be spider-man and rather he didnt have the motivation peter did it because he felt responsible for his uncles death his only father figure, Miles only considered it when he realized he could have saved peter but peter still wasnt enough until ganke pushed him, then his mom died an unpreventable death and he found it pointless jessica then made him realize he couldn't live with letting other people die. ever since then he's just been going through the motions

>>93209470
fuck Bendis.

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Spider-Man (2002)
>Fantastic intro to a character known by most. Cast was great. Music was original. And having the Green Goblin as the first villain was genius.

Spider-Man 2 (2004)
>A sequel that improves in every way. More web slinging action. A more compelling and personal story. And a tragic villain. Best sequel ever. I'm just pissed that 15 year old me didn't quite "get it".

Spider-Man 3 (2007)
>A movie that reeks of executive meddling. Directing is always on point but the script needed some serious trimming. Still a fun movie that I've enjoyed as I've gotten older.

Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
>A movie that was made so the rights to the character wouldn't revert back to Marvel. Webb wanted to put his stamp on the series like Raimi did but he dropped the ball on the villain (although I do enjoy the Lizard).

Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
>A straight up guilty pleasure that doesn't contribute anything meaningful to the Spider-Man mythos but still tried to set up something much grander in scale. I can appreciate the ambition, but the finished project was....off.

Spider-Man Homecoming (2017)
>Haven't seen. Heard Peter doesn't throw a single punch which pisses me off. And before anyone says anything it also agitated me in the animated series because it seemed like Peter is purposely letting his villains walk all over him. Michael Keaton as Vulture has me excited though (just hope he doesn't die).

>>93210527
Keaton should've been Norman;.

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>>93185258
They even gave Vulture Ultimate Prowler's wings.

>>93210566
>Keaton should've been Norman;.
Don't tease me bro. Dafoe was brillaint but Keaton would have brought something else to the role. His portrayal of Beetlejuice is all the evidence I need that Keaton can play batshit insane and stonewall hard ass.

>>93197542
No it's not! Peter is a massive asshole in this one. He's only a glory hound trying to win a good dicking from Iron Man. He doesn't give a fuck about Uncle Ben who was fucking murdered and gave him a roof over his head because he's an ungrateful piece of shit faggot ass chicken shit cock gobbling cunt!

>>93186264
Keep it. Peter can be a colossal douche sometimes. It just depends on writer.

>>93210621
Not really. I don't see any turbine or jets there. And Vulture in Homecoming operates his wings without his hands.

>>93210625
And he looks like Norman.

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>>93189200
>She's Peter with an X chromosome

>>93210860
XX female. XY male.
She's Peter with an altered genetic makeup that is likely to affect behavior and mental processes (not severely but enough to notice). Also she had to put up with way more shit than Peter ever did in the early parts of her life (after being made in a lab), so it's pretty easy to understand why she would leave Ock to experience an absolutely horrible death wheras Peter feels compelled to act.

I definitely shouldn't have used that language in my previous comment but it makes sense why Jessica would do her own thing while Peter does his.

>>93196444
But then who would be his uncle ben ?

>>93196444
Tony is just filling the role the entire FF took in his early career.
Pete has always looked up to them and they are deeply entwined in his overall mythos.

So it's Tony instead, big damn deal.

>>93211515
>Pete has always looked up to them and they are deeply entwined in his overall mythos.
No they're fucking not.

>>93211464
Spectacular didn't need an Uncle Ben.

>>93210653
Nigga?

>>93204953
The beginning of Raimi-Man was actually almost a direct adaptation of Amazing Fantasy #15.
It was everything else that was wrong.

>>93185258
Because nobody gives a fuck about Spider-Man as a character. They just want to to web shit and quip.

>>93211647
They most certainly are.

>>93216801
HOW

>>93188080
Black Panther?

the thing that bothers me most about homecoming is that spide-man is ALWAYS CGI
like he doesn't even look real at all, he looks like shitty CG

>>93217298
He was CGI in Civil War too.

>>93217790
yeah, and he looked like garbage in CW

>>93210527
>Webb wanted to put his stamp on the series like Raimi did but he dropped the ball
nah, Webb got executive meddled to hell and back.
its 1000 times worse in TASM2 obviously

>>93216950
How are they not? All throughout his career its been the FF to help him out. The Human Torch has been his friendly nemesis since the days of Torch being one of Marvel's top draws. every time Spidey gets in trouble it was the FF that helped him out.
The FF are tied directly to the symbiote nonsense. Spidey started his heroic career trying to join the FF and then after Torch died, he DID join them. Pete directly revealed his identity to them after the OMD mindwipe bullshit.

Spidey is linked to the FF in a way he is no other character or team.

>>93217925
>nah, Webb got executive meddled to hell and back.
source?

>>93185258
No one cares because they're too busy shitting on Zendaya's obnoxious character

>>93217935
>Spidey is linked to the FF in a way he is no other character or team.
But they're not essential to his character or story.
They're entwined into his mythos, but not deeply entwined.
Their relationship isn't even as close as Spidey's is to Venom.
You need Spider-Man to have Venom. You don't need to have Fantastic Four to have Spider-Man.

>>93217979
How is her character obnoxious when we don't know anything about her?

>>93217946
i dont want to dig up articles, because its not one specific source.
basically, read what Andrew Garfield said about the movie and sony, and then go through the sony leaks for stuff about Webb, Garfield, and TASM2.

Basically, Webb couldn't do much on the first one, because that was his first big budget movie, but he and Andrew saw the shortcomings on TASM and thought they were gonna do better on the second film, but first the film got shitty rewrites(per the studio) and then they had to make a number of changes. TASM2 being a "tent-pole" film wasn't the intent of those two, but they tired to go with it.
Idk how much either of them cared afterward, Garfield was obviously pissed, you can see that because he said so then, and has mentioned it since, I dont know of anything Webb has said, but i'm going to guess that as the director, he took it harder, or just can't do much since as a director without much under his belt, he can't shittalk the studio as much as an actor can.

>>93218026
You haven't seen any trailers? She's the annoying outcast and it comes off pretentious.

>Are you hiding something, Peter?
>I'm kidding I don't care

>you guys are losers

>>93218027
That's unfortunate, Webb didn't come off as being a bad director.

>>93218062
>it comes off pretentious.
How? That's just how girls act.
The Vulturess rumor got debunked, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were still true, she's featured very prominently in promo material.

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>>93211515
Gee, look how much Peter gets down on his knees to grovel before the might Avengers!

>>93218113
>The Vulturess rumor got debunked
Source?

>>93218577
Sorry for this shitty site, hope you have adblock.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/06/12/spider-man-homecoming-zendaya-michelle/

>>93185258
I care, that's why I'm not seeing it. Sony deserve no more chances with Spidey. They've fucked him in the ass so many times now he's just a fucking prolapsed mess.

>>93218666
Thanks Anon

>>93218193
We need this Spider-Man back.
Ideally, Spider-Man should be written like Yusuke Urameshi.
I think Yusuke's dub voice is what I associate with Spider-Man actually.

This is the most Spider-Man thing to come out in relation to this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weL8D5nOTWA

>>93218090
yeah, i dont think he's a bad director at all, he just wasn't someone already established like Raimi, who could tell the studio to go fuck themselves and stay committed to his creative vision.

Thats generally why they'll hire smaller names for big-budget films, so they can be puppet directed

>>93218696
>>93218666
>Given Zendaya’s fame, many find it difficult to believe the singer would be cast in a non-canon Spider-Man role, but the MCU has scouted talent for such roles before. Pepper Potts was not known to the general public before Gwyneth Paltrow took on the character in Iron Man.

Pepper Potts was a well-established comic character....

>>93218973
>to the general public

>>93218981
yeah, but theres a big fucking difference between a new character, and a comic character the public doesn't know.

the public doesn't know most comic characters, its a fucking niche market

>>93190830
kek

>>93219094
>>93190830
so you think pete fucked her after that?
or did they just make-out?

>>93219492
They probably talked and arranged a date.
Or Pete is such a fuck up that she lost interest as soon as he kept going.
Better question, why did Lee & Ditko write 15 year old Peter into a relationship with a grown woman?
Another reason why Spectacular is the best adaptation.

>>93220461
>Better question, why did Lee & Ditko write 15 year old Peter into a relationship with a grown woman?
so, the thing is that Betty wasn't that old, she had dropped out of school to start working, so she wouldn't have been all that much older than Peter, maybe 3-6 years?
personally, my head canon is that Peter would have been 16, maybe 17 once he started doing bugle stuff (cause he was celebrity character spider-man for at least a while), and Betty was 20-ish.

But
i think it's better as SS
15 year old Peter pulling some mid-twenties ass??
whew

>>93220477
She's drawn to look quite a bit older than him.
>i think it's better as SS
Because you're a loser and hopefully underage.

>>93220493
>She's drawn to look quite a bit older than him.
i'm not going to go digging through scans just to prove it to you, but it was stated multiple times betty was young and had dropped out of school

>>93220507
I'm not arguing against what you're saying, I know it's fact, but the art doesn't reflect that well. Most comic art is garbage.

Besides, I feel like that whole her being a dropout thing was just made up to make it seem less weird after the fact.

>>93218697
>>93218697
Just tried this and found how Peter sounds in my head, so thanks for that.

>>93198744
is this a copypasta

>>93185258
Because Spiderfags are so used to something shitting on the character, they don't give a fuck anymore. I have no hope for anything Spider-related, it's been all mediocrity/shit since the OMD. Just let it all fucking burn. Make another "Sandman and Norman Osborn are related because of the hair" retcon, start Clone Saga 2.0, have Aunt May die from the heart attack caused by sex with Norman Osborn, I don't fucking care.

>>93220845
clone saga 4.0**

So what anti-Homecoming thread are you planning after this one since you seem to just keep spamming them in succession.

>>93197194
No, the Thor movies said that Asgardians don't consider magic and science to be separate things.

>>93185258
My problem is that for some reason they decided to go 180 degrees from Spider-man being a hero on his own, learning the ways on his.

That was his thing, he wasn't Iron Man's protege like Robin or Bucky, he was just Spider-man, a teenage hero on his own.

But this one is just Iron Man's Ultron 2.0.
>B-but I wanna be just liek you
>I want you to be better

>>93185721
>acted like a fanboy
Yeah, like a 15 year old kid would when he comes face to face with Captain America
>weak unconfident delivery
Yes, because he's 15 and hasn't been Spider-man for very long yet. He'll grow to be more confident as the films progress

>>93188337
Even though it's trash, I still want to know some stuff. Is JJJ in it, and who plays him?
Are any other villains set-up?
Who is Donald Glover playing?
Is Michelle really just Michelle, or is she someone important?

>>93185258
Totally agree with you anon