Post other fictitious races/societies that'd beat the fuck

Like, any.

It's not like the Homeworld is presented as particularly powerful. The show is even straight up stating they're in decline.

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>>93182904
Hard Mode: Post races/societies that the gem empire WOULD beat.

>pic unrelated

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>>93182904
Most races from Warhammer 40k would do it in an hour

this thread seems kind of pointless and petty
>lololol STEVEN SHITVERSE SUCKS their main antagonist is FUCKING WEAK GARBAGE I hate them so much
>>93182998
>the tau
lol

>>93182998
Sorry for the picture, I couldn't find one with all the races and xenos and shit

>>93183020
What else is left, the fucking Kroot? They're part of the Tau empire.

>>93183009
Honestly, they could. They are capable with firearms. They just have to keep a distance.

>>93182998
>Orks vs Gems
>All male race of soccer hooligans vs Lesbian Space rocks
>Orks loot Gem tech
Fund it.

>>93183037
I was going to say Tyranides, but I guess Im a bit blind

>>93183037
>Jokero
>Enslavers
>Ptera Squirrels

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>>93183061
>Orks loot Gem tech
Sweet Emperor...

>>93183037
The Squats and their fabergé egg armies.

>>93183048
We've never actually seen modern homeworld in an armed conflict
>>93183061
>orks poof Quartz
>they get back up in under a couple minutes
>Quartz kill orkz
>spores mean there's more in a few days/weeks
the odds of orcs actually doing anything significant to a gem are minuscule
>>93183101
>inquisition
>who
>what
>>93183114
don't exist/imperial guard

>>93183121
They would battle endlessly.

>>93183061
>Orks loot Gem tech
>use gem shards to make spears

>>93183184
Yes. A gem force could entertain orks for thousands of years, I count that as a draw.

>>93183121
Orks not cracking gems? Orks not screwing gems to armor?

Weirdboys and mekboys also probably will make perpetuum mobile drives out of gems. By putting them into hamster wheels and placing gretchins with energy whips around.

>>93183101
Yevethans, Wookies, Geonosians, Kaminoans, Gungans.
>>93183037
Q'qol.

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>>93183102
>Gem powered Ork Lasers.

>>93183216
Throw some 'nids in there and I'll pin it to Inquisitor Kryptman.
>>93183219
>>93182953

>>93183101
These are all Rogue Trader races/species. and i remembered another one:
>Zoats

>>93182904
we really don't know enough about the Diamond Authority

like we haven't seen what the gem military looks like, beyond a few small squads, kinda like trying to judge the whole US military based on like one tank and like seven low ranking troopers, it would tell you nothing about the real crown jewels of our military, the nuclear arsenal

Also a basic problem with sci-fi is as you mix and max sci-fi you realize often that certain universes have inherent advantages over others, like Star Trek would stand no chance against Star Wars once you realize just how much greater in scale Star Wars is

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>>93182998
>>93183061
>>93183121
>>93183186
>>93183222
Okay, Now I want to know if there are any SU/40K Fan-Fictions out there. I am am fucking Intrigued.

>>93182953
Terran Federation from Starship Troopers ?

>>93183252

Fair points. But every comparison of anything in fiction on this board is based on assumption to a certain degree with the information presented in all shows involved. Even if the information isn't quite at there.

>>93183269
>Citizens of Morkagorka, We are the Crystal Gems
>ZOG OFF!!

>>93183269
There are a few, but no-one can link them.

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Very hard to keep your underlings under your thumb when yo don't remind them constantly why they should fear you.

>>93183430
>Rose resurrects an Ork
>The first pink Ork in existence happens
>Da Boyz are scared of turning into a pansy pink boy if they die
Fund it.

>>93183452
except gems don't follow the diamonds because they fear them, they follow them because they love the diamonds

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>>93183430

Emperor: Let me get this straight - The Ultrasmurfs were beaten by a newly discovered xeno-species that are literary a bunch of sentient female jewelry pieces?

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>>93183499
Ah yes, sure was a lot of love when that little rock accused her beloved diamonds of Regicide.

>>93183009
>this thread seems kind of pointless and petty
>>lololol STEVEN SHITVERSE SUCKS their main antagonist is FUCKING WEAK GARBAGE I hate them so much

Pretty much that's all these threads are so they're invalid if you're looking for real discussion and anlysis or any of that shit (lolol real discussion on 4chan?). They're just a show hate circlejerk.

I think the Gem Homeworld capabilities are really vague and since they're not shown going up against other races you can't actually tell how they do do. Meanwhile in Star Trek they show alien races at war with other races so in a "vs. Thread" you actually have feats and shit to work with.

The Gems might be able to beat a lot of races bu the show does not touch on what they can or cannot do at war with other races so these threads are a pointless circlejerk of SU backlash which fine okay, but it's not a substaintial vs. discussion.

>>93183531
I wish I new what text to speech device he used.

>>93183217
Weirdboys would probably make themselves a Steven-analog by slapping a gem on them
>>93183269
>Amethysts become strangely sneaky in the presence of orks
>completely absorb into an ork kommando unit, never to be seen again

>>93182953
africa

>>93183497
Idk about that bc Kommandoes paint themselves bright colors because they believe camo pattern paint makes them invisible.

>>93183562
he literally has it listed somewhere on his channel
>>93183549
yeah but we still get to debate gems vs orks in melee

>>93183538
That's her job

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>>93183009
All "who would win" threads and websites are garbage

>>93183667
Can Power-man defeat an eraser?

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>>93182904
The Beast, from Shadow Raiders. Most wouldn't be particularly difficult to kill. But they have numbers the Gem Empire could only wish for. Their leaders are very strong. Powerful airforce and navy. And they have a planet that can eat or blow up other planets.

>>93183711
Power Man can regenerate from nothing, as long as somebody has a memory of him (and a drawing tool).

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>>93183667
can powerman pull the broomstick out of your ass?

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Would Homeworld even stand a chance?

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>>93182998
>Be Necrons
>Together with Old Ones created this mess that we can see in 40k
>Orks n Eldar were created to battle them
>Pocket slave gods

This ain't even funny

>>93183252

We've already seen the Diamonds' nuclear option though. And it's powerful but it only affects their own kind.

>>93183565
A flail with gretchin on the end embedded with multiple gems. When screaming gretchin hits the enemy random gem effect happens.

>>93183667
ppfft two people have already beaten Taker

>>93183775
Yes

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Gems make shit trophies

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>>93182904
Posting superior rock species

>>93183922
fuck off back to /indie/ nobody loves you

>>93183252
>Star Trek would stand no chance against Star Wars
I feel like this is bait...

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>>93183841
>Gauss weapons destroy their targets on a molecular level
>a direct hit to the gem wouldn't leave any shards

>>93183957
Necrons are pretty dumb sometimes, would they target the gem?

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Given her body count, I'm sure she could solo the entire homeworld

>>93183841
Would the Necrons understand how to use Gems the same way they use C'tan shards?

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>>93183985
No. Trazyn will kill any necron who will try to destroy his future waifus.

the cabal. nuff said

>>93184014
Probably

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>>93184042
You mean the guys from Bungie's Destiny? Frankly yes, space rhino alien space marines would beat the gems with their better understanding and application of military tactics and strategy.

And judging by how the gems are presented currently, its doubtful the gems have any intricate military strategies and tactics.

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>>93183909
Word, Brother Hunter.
I took the spine of one of them once and it just puffed to nothingness.

>>93183953
how so, Star Trek fleets are pretty small compared to the literally galactic scale warfare that has gone on in Star Wars for millennium

>>93182904
C'mon, dude...even a bunch of Irkens Heavy Cruisers could whipe them out of existence.

The Burning Legion

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>>93184924
>implying

Master Hands solo.

>>93183445
Maybe someone can name a few good ones?

>>93184981
That piece of shit space craft crumbled to pieces after crushing against a old statue and was hacked by a 10.000 years old and obsolete sex toy.

>>93184355
and in a way they're kinda the same, they destroy planets just for being in the way. from what I saw, the new character in destiny 2 ( Dominus Ghaul) killed one of the cabal leadership, similar to pink diamond's shattering

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>>93183841
Would the Necrons even notice if Gems landed on one of their tomb worlds and started setting up Kindergartens? Hell would they even Care?

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>>93182904
/thread

The Aldmeri Dominion

>>93185251
You're right, autobots OR decepticons could wipe homeworld the fuck out.

>>93184917
No doubt Wars has the numbers and size but Trek's shielding and weapons are far superior.

Every space battle in Star Wars has little fighters flying along and blowing up the capital ship's laser turrets with like one or two shots.
Star Trek fights start off with pounding the enemies shields just so your can get to the meaty ship bits. Not to mention that laser based weapons, which are the bread and butter of Star Wars, literally pose no threat to standard a Trek ship.

>>93185248
As long as the gems dont wake them, they are gonna do fine

>>93183827
I think the diamonds could field this one with a musical number. I mean, spontaneous musical number generation seems to be a secondary power of all the old guard gems.

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>>93182904
The Zerg Swarm would overwhelm the jem empire

>>93185368
Holy shit! You are right!

>>93185285
Or the Star Wars weapons tech is so far beyond the shield tech that its a joke

Star Trek has weaker weapons so shields seem to be stronger

Fleets in Star Wars commonly engage in orbital bombardment and they have a ton of experience with doomsday weapons in general, meanwhile most ships in Star Trek aren't even capable of engaging in large scale orbital bombardment

>>93182904
Why the fuck do you care so much?

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>>93183121
>they get back up in under a couple minutes
Don't gems need significant time to get back their physical forms? Rushing to get their forms back together supposedly would result in their forms going haywire.

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>>93185446
Because this is a fun thing to think about, now shut up and PRAISE THE GOD-EMPEROR!

>>93185471
>Don't gems need significant time to get back their physical forms
Quartz' are quick because they are battle gems.
the longest amethyst has EVER taken is 2 hours, during a time of emotional turmoil, where as pearl has been shown to take over 2 weeks.

>>93185471
Well he did say that the orks from Warhammer 40k return from spores in roughly a few days. Some gems could come back in a few days as well

>>93185471
>Don't gems need significant time to get back their physical forms
They only need a few minutes. Their forms go haywire if they reform in seconds.

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>>93182904
SHAKARA!

>>93185433
>Or the Star Wars weapons tech is so far beyond the shield tech that its a joke

Yet a single person fighter can still fly straight into the bridge of a command ship. Try that with a Star Trek ship and the fighter and it explodes on the shield, while draining almost no power from it.
I could accept that a weapon could cut through their shields with no resistance but not a relatively slow mass of metal.

We don't see orbital bombardment because Star Trek is almost always from the perspective of Federation science vessels. And, I would presume, bombardment of an entire planet is frowned upon by the Federation.
We have seen whole cities get destroyed from a single phaser blast or photon torpedo though. It's not hard to imagine scaling that up just a bit.

>>93185497
Quartz are earth gems tho, and the strongest one out of them where shown to be Rose (unique and defunct) and Jasper (not all that impressive), why would home-world have a bunch of Quartz laying around other than the rejects from the human zoo?

>>93185518
Admittedly I don't remember very well the time that Amethyst had to reform but I remember it taking way more than a couple minutes for her to reform properly, could be wrong tho, Pearl took up to a few weeks and Garnet seemed to take too long considering that her individual gems where captured.

>>93185645
>why would home-world have a bunch of Quartz laying around
During a recession they probably don't.

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>>93185406
>the jem empire

What an outrageous typo!

>>93185634
your miss-remembering, that only happened after the shields had been taken down

>>93185493
Yeah vs threads are fun, I was more referring to the Gems part. We've had this thread like 3 times in the past month, it's becoming an obsession for OP.

>>93185110
I would still like to get some recommendations

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They've already destroyed countless other universes (or worlds if you want to be technical), how would this one be any different?

But to be fair this wouldn't end in Gemkind's extinction, just a new form of existence as one of countless shadows.

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WaKANGZda vs Homeworld who do the SJWs back??

>>93185720
It's because we all want an excuse to see / post about the real best fight: Gems vs. Orkz.

>>93185805
They'll back the blacks.

>>93185823
YES!

>>93185823
That's almost always what gets posted first in these threads anyway.

>>93185645
>I don't remember very well the time that Amethyst had to reform but I remember it taking way more than a couple minutes for her to reform properly
She got poofed during the fight with Jasper and reformed in few minutes. That I consider a baseline, since when she reformed in seconds it was consided a rush job, and when she reformed in two hours it was considered an abnormaly long period.
>Pearl took up to a few weeks
Two options: 1) Pearl is not a fighter gem, 2) She took too long because of Pearl perfectionist OCD tendencies
>Garnet seemed to take too long considering that her individual gems where captured
I doubt more than an hour had passed between when Steven got knocked out and he woke up in the cell, and Ruby and Sapphire had to have been incarcerated for quite some time then. Besides, Ruby and Sapphire, likely aren't as much of a threat when separated and could be easily restrained.

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STEP ASIDE GEM CUNTS

>>93185471
Pearl takes a significant amount of time. Amethyst is back up in seconds with minimal risk involved.
>>93185645
Quartz are literally standard battle gems, they have a lot of them. They're the primary fighting force for Homeworld. Rubys are footsoldiers. There are tougher gems above Quartz in the "big bruiser" role like Agates and Topaz.

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>>93182904
Races? It only takes one THING.

>>93185948

Is that just the cluster? Except way less cool?

>>93185982
Now that i think about it, yes. It is the cluster. Huh.

>>93185982
>cluster
>cool
Ha

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>>93185948
ruin has come to our family

>>93184009
I would literally let her rape me.

>>93183841
>the gempire and the necrons become allies thanks to their mutual disdain for ((organics)).

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>>93186272
>The Gems are then eradicated the next day because Yellow Diamnons snubbed Assholetep at a victory over organically party.

>>93183308
The novels soliders go about in large mech suits with nuclear grenades they would crush them perhaps

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stimpy could do it all on his own, in one foul swoop on account of that damn button

>>93182998
Is that a dog?
Eldars have dogs?

>>93185714
Had to look it up on youtube but you're right.
I'll admit my knowledge is woefully inadequate for a debate that has been going on for as long as this one has.

I still argue of the Star Trek side though.
Ship phasers have been shown to quickly dig through a plant's surface.
I think it's the planet destroying super weapons that are the definitive answer. Star War's is a small moon sized station. Star Trek's is a slightly larger than average torpedo that any ship can fire.
Even Trek's most devastating star destroying ship, at least most devastating I can recall, is smaller than the standard Star War capital ship.

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>>93182904

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Not sure how'd they reproduce on HW, but one Xenomorph could probably take out a few dozen gems before being killed.

Festum. Assimilation via mental probing is too good

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Wouldn't all it take to get an advantage on them is for any of the races to get a hold of one of these? They seem to carry them by the dozen in every ship even if they're barely manned. If any race where to weaponize them they'd probably win in a jiffy.

>>93185786
Haven't we discussed this one already and came to the conclusion that The Heartless would be a death sentence for ANY alien race?

>>93187063
>Do you have a keyblade?
>Yes: congratulations, you're okay
>No: better hope someone with a keyblade shows up or you'll be overwhelmed eventually
Heartless are completely broken, you just don't notice because you always have the magical macguffin

>>93182998
I feel like 'nids might actually have a tough time fighting gems, if only for the attrition involved. Assuming the gems are on the defensive, we're talking about worlds the tyranids have to invade that have NO organic matter, and NOTHING to assimilate. Combat-wise, they could handle themselves just fine, but the gems just might outlast them via attrition.

>>93182904
Speaking for cartoons there really isn't that much representation of aliens. So, there's only a couple I could think of off the top of my head. There's the Cluster of MLaaTR. It may not be that one sided because the Gems can use both magic and technology. Ben 10 has many alien races, so there has to be some that could do substantial harm to the Gems. Heatblast's race might be able to get the job done.

Monster Buster Club had a lot of aliens, but I don't know much about the show.

Then there's also MiB. I don't know what Aliens can possibly get one over on the Gems, but they might exist.

>>93182904
Yuuzhan Vong

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They wouldn't last a day.

>>93186759
>Assholetep
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

>>93186883
do gems have heat signatures?

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>>93183667
The fact that there's already a Power-man invalidates this entire comic.

>>93182943
This. Humans are just fucked on account of inability to hit back should they go orbital bombardment mode.

Any race that has their own space craft would own them pretty quickly.

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And yes, I'm referring to THIS Lombax specifically.

>>93185248
>We dug too deep...

anything with a gun

>>93187264
Could The Glorft (Megas XLR) take them on?

>>93183048
The Tau are the itty bittiest faction in 40K though, and the only ones operating without the rest of the 40K universe's "3rd grader with an invincible to everything shield" bullshit power levels. The Tau would probably couldn't even defeat the Covenant, or a Mass Effect civ.

>>93186807
>The History Eraser Button is chrono-linked to a antimatter bomb planted at the beginning of time.

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>>93185908
>not ZEON

>>93186883
Gems don't have organic organs unless they want to though. Xenomorphs would totally ignore Gems because they're not organic beings, just like they ignored Bishop in Aliens

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>>93182904
1.Crush Gems.
2.Inject Gem powder into our bodies.
3.???
4.Profit!

>>93187063
>>93187169

Well, part of the issue is with how certain abilities can be said to be "only part of this franchise" or could otherwise be expanded out on a "logical"/flavorful basis.

Like, what -is- a keyblade, and why do they do well against the Heartless?

Would Samurai Jack's sword logically work against the Heartless - because it is a divine sword meant to destroy otherwise invincible evil (such as Aku) - or is Jack shit out of luck because the sword isn't a keyblade? Or, would Jack's sword, by transformers multiversal logic, become a keyblade if he were to enter a portal to the Kingdom Hearts multiverse?

Likewise, what about light/holy-based magic, like D&D paladins, or the naaru from Warcraft?

Or the various "purify evil out from people" abilities from magical girl shows like Sailor Moon?

>>93189359
WHAT IF WE DUMPED EXTRA PHAZON ON THEM
AND THREW MORE METROIDS IN AFTER THAT

>>93184981
The Irken mothership flew through a fucking sun unscathed

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The hand ship is the largest Gem starship we've seen so far, about runabout sized. Gems wouldn't stand a chance outside of hand-to-hand combat.

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Your conquests are impressive...but with weak cause. Machines of war churning for the resources to birth more of you, for more worlds to strip bare of life for mineral presence. It is frankly pitiable that your propagation comes at such a cost.

Where I raze worlds it is for no need other than my will. The turn of my world aflame is done that I may stand atop suffering and all peoples may look upon me as their God. You know this small joy, Diamonds, as a fringe benefit to your purpose; leaving it impure and the loyalty of your vassals ultimately questionable. That is my sole purpose. Dominion with me as the tiger force at the heart of all things.

And in that state, you have stirred even my black heart. When I come it shall not be debasing myself to the scale of your lesser thralls by way of Boom Tube. I shall stand before you in true scale and glory as courtesy before I break you and your society beneath my heel.

For in the end, what is a diamond but base carbon?

>>93189540
Wrong. Arm ships are also present, which implies there is ultimately an entire body ship.

>>93188928
But can the Tau defeat the economic forces that tear apart every Communist nation eventually?

>>93187169
>No: better hope you have an artifact that is a powerful source of Light or someone with a keyblade shows up or you'll be overwhelmed eventually.

Fixed that for you, remember that Disney Castle was Heartless-free for a long time because of The Cornerstone of Light.

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>>93187469
>Ratchet and Clank taking on the Gen Homeworld

They only need a planet-sized Groovitron to do the job, the resulting fusion would probably chuck itself into the nearest pulsar out of sheer embarrassment.

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>>93182998
>>93183061
>>93183430
>>93183601
>>93185823
I'm just wondering how a fight between the Gems and the Imperial Guard(without space marines) would go.

>>93183452
Lets be honest, Frieza could wipe the gems, planets and colonies with no effort whatsoever on his own.

>>93182904
>Post other fictitious races/societies that'd beat the fuck out of the gem empire.

Literally any race that is not comprised entirely of actual retards

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>>93182904
Old School Phyrexia.

New Phyrexia was a mistake and WotC should let them stay dead.

Another empire that could also cumbstomp them would probably be the Earth Empire from Prophet at the height of one of their expansionist ages.

>>93189601
I would pay money to read this crossover with real art and good writing involving Sugar
>>93189630
the Diamond's ships have to combine like Voltron into the body ship

>>93191850
Imagine non-retarded orks with actual command staff and real vehicles, but it takes them hundreds of years to multiply their numbers instead of weeks.
They have the same "will keep coming back forever" thing tho

>>93185786
Would the Heartless work on an evil mechanical race like the Warhammer 40K Necrons or Tyranoids? They don't seem to have hearts because they're beasts/automatons.

Altho Nobodies>>>>>>>>The Heartless.
They're basically Heartless but more sentient.

>>93186831
Star trek could beat Movie Star Wars.
They stand no chance against the expanded universe and novelizations where they have Sun Eaters and solar system level doomsday devices.

>>93182904
Time Lords?
I mean when you have time machines where even the most busted model can drag planets away from a black hole what can really be done?

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A challenger approaches!

>>93192418
It's a good the the eu doesn't exit anymore then

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>HW accidentally opens a portal to Hell

>>93183452
Frieza by himself could destroy all of home world

>>93192482
"Legends" still exists. Just because they renamed it doesn't mean the fiction stops existing. Not any less than it's ordinary fictional nonexistence.

>>93187309
>gets curbstomped by five planewalkers with attitude

>>93192439
Time Lords have the power of PLOT and bullshit Deux Ex on their sides, they're also an ascended race that would trash most. The Eternals were basically a divine race of gods and even they got screwed over by the TLs.

But that makes me wonder.. How would Gems do against Cybermen or Daleks?

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>>93182904
"A horde of pastel colored rhinestones are coming to siege our bastion on Earth? Don't make me laugh Starscream; they are hardly a threat us. Soundwave, send out a rally point to our troops and prepare for assault. Now is the time to show these upstarts how to wage a TRUE galactic war!! EARTH IS OURS FOR THE TAKING!!! DECEPTICONS!! TRANSFORM AND RISE UP!!!

>>93192544
It's okay. They'll just rebuild it.
It was probably some mined, stripped and converted conquered world anyway.

>>93182904
Gem aliens get BTFO by a 12 year old girl with a sword. I'm pretty sure every semi-competent fictional society could beeat them, as well as every non-fictional country in the world. Maybe even the neighborhood watch in my hometown could beat them if it was life or death.

>>93182953
The Arachnids from Starship Troopers.
I mean, if they are as dumb as the propaganda shows them.

>>93192581
>Cybermen see Gem's as superior
>They get on their knees and beg to be Assimilated into Gems

>>93192587
But Decepticons suck at war.

>>93191850
The got shot to shit by the nigh infinite barrage of Lasgun fire. And when the guards relize that them regenerate through their gems, they get shot to shit again and had their gem smash with a Krak grenade

>>93182904
I'm having more trouble thinking of a race/society that could NOT beat the gem empire.

>>93192581
Question is it the Cybermen models with super speed?
Because then it's a win.

Nothing can challenge a Dalek but a time lord or another Dalek

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The Gem Empire going up against the Grineer? Fuck yeah I'd like to see that.

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>>93182904
I'm pretty sure Whitebeard from One Piece (or pretty much any decently strong big shot post-time skip) could solo most, if not all, of Homeworld.

One swing would pretty much shatter an army of gems.

>>93185786
>>93187063
In theory, should a race have knowledge of the heart they could manufacture a Keyblade replacment, but none come to mind.

Remember, the Heart, Soul, and Mind are all different things.

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>>93182904

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>>93189201

>>93192982
White Beard couldn't even beat the Navy.
And Big Mom is the better Yankou anyway.

>>93193052
The only ones that come to mind are all Anime.
I can count like, maybe 3 of them with strong enough magical understanding to do so.

>>93182998

The big problem with 40k isn't beating the gems, it's opening up another front in the future with ONLY WAR. If it really came down to it even the elite soldiers come off as slightly smarter orks and their casters are mostly low to lower mid tier psykers. But you'd need to divert a whole chapter of space marines that you'd need elsewhere, or like a dozen IG regiments once you factor in armor, mechanized, footsloggers, abhumans, ect.

Every one of those resources could go towards defending another imperium world, or retaking one overrun with Orks or Nids or whoever else.

Xeno races aren't much better, the Eldar plain can not afford to fight a war they could probably win handily just because of lives and resources. The Orks simply won't grow if their spores hit a world already drained to make gems, and won't reliably hit the permadeath weakspot.

The only factions that would gain from the victory are the Tau, who'd probably incorporate random bits of tech to advance further, and the Dark Eldar, who'd find an infinitely regenerating slave they don't need to feed convenient.

The only real question is if Gems can be corrupted to Chaos.

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>>93192385
>Would the Heartless work on an evil mechanical race like the Warhammer 40K Necrons or Tyranoids? They don't seem to have hearts because they're beasts/automatons.

Not exactly, they're more like a race of energy beings with assimilation functions. Remember that they're essentially the darkness in people's heart given physical form.

Also...

>Nobodies>>>>>>>>The Heartless

Only if we're talking about lower Nobodies, Organization XIII was terrible.

>>93193052

Right, and as I mentioned in >>93190168 an artifact similar to The Cornerstone of Light can also clear an area of Heartless without issue just so long as no one magically tampers with it.

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>>93182904
I could honestly think, imagine and even confidently say that any Call of Duty character and NPC in the recent future sci-fi Call of Duty games can beat the gems in general. With their high caliber guns that can shatter a gem's stone along with the use of their exo-suits.

People from Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3 and Infinite Warfare could kick gem ass.

>>93189423

The keyblade doesn't play well with other concepts. You assume it can just do other forms of evil but you have to be super conditional with immortal pirates like Barbossa and worlds with existing heroes also get wiped regularly.

Is your power directly related to hearts, souls, or light? If so you may have a shot. Is it from a god, or arcane forces, or not one degree removed from the above three? Tough titties. Your darkness and that darkness are largely exclusive and the you'll just get shitfuck'd harder because they'll probably team up.

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>>93192289
>Yawgmoth corrupted gems
Now there's a thought.

>>93182904
A more interesting question would be how many inhabited planets have the Gems drained of all resorces?

>>93193314
I wonder if some Homestucks/Sburb players and created-universes could counter them. They have Light, Heart and Hope players who can destroy souls and hearts directly or tear them out of others body, as well as Juju's and devices to infect/send themselves into others like a Horcrux.

>>93193366
Simple answer: Vague and ambigious!

>>93189423
non-keyblade weapons/magic can destroy heartless' physical forms, but it doesn't release the hearts it has consumed, thus allowing it to respawn indefinately

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>>93193264
Pic related, Johnathan Irons and his Atlas Corporation can BTFO many gems and utilize/reverse engineer gem tech and make special exosuits with gem shit.

>>93193427
Would Shinigami from Bleach be able to defeat them with their Zanpaktou?
Heartless seem like basically Hollows in an inverse sense.

>>93193431
Kevin Spacey would get his shit kicked in by Rubies.
>reverse engineer gem
Yeah not happening.
I'm not getting into why because we had a whole thread about this once.

>>93193441
If it ain't a keyblade, they aren't permanently dead.
Plus, killing enough shadows probably results in a greater heartless like the Shadow-Swarms or the Hunter in the Dark being formed from the hearts clustering together

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>>93182904
it technically only took one of these to defeat and puppet the US government

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>>93193205
>Gem-based Nobodies.
>

And I thought regular Nobodies were uncanny enough...

>>93193539
>Shadow-Swarms or the Hunter in the Dark

Those Heartless actually proper names, The Hunter in the Dark is called a Dark Hide and the Shadow swarms are called Demon Tower or Demon Tide depending on how they fight.

>>93183876
Not exactly. We have seen one weapon that they had to subjugate the enemy gems. We have also been shown the Shooting Star weapon but we don't know its strength. And there's also whatever's in the geode which was possibly a shooting star.

>>93193539
Well I mean Zanpaktou's serve a similar function, they literally purify hollows who are energy/reishi creatures that takeover via the negativity in deceased souls.

There were a race called the quincy who started 'killing' Hollows with their Bows and the Shinigami got mad as shit because it didn't release their hearts properly, it just killed them, and only their magic swords can release them which caused a lot of problems.

>>93193564
>Destroy All Humans

Damn anon, thanks for reminding me how old I'am.

>>93189648
They won't need to because they're not actually communist, that's just a meme, if anything they're more the ideal fascist state with their undying loyalty and reverence to Aun'va and his subordinates.

>>93193461
>Yeah not happening.
I'm not getting into why because we had a whole thread about this once.

And what would stop humanity from trying or attempting to reverse engineer something out of Gem tech?

>>93192319
>real art and good writing
>involving sugar
Pick one

>>93185645
Rose isn't unique. She was unique in her ideas but we see a thousand of them bubbled in the zoo.

>>93193876
Didn't they say in The Trail that the reason why it only could've been Rose Quartz was because there had only ever been one Rose Quartz soldier?

>>93192657
That is until the Gems realize that Rubies and fusions involving them are pretty much immune To lasguns, at which point it's a question of how fast can the guard transition to stubbers and bolters.

Also one factor that people never take into effect the one a psyker would have on Gems. Considering fusion is built upon Synchronization, I imagine a Psyker mindrape mighty split them up real quick again.

>>93193917
I'd have to watch it again but we explicitly see tons of them in the Zoo when Blue and Yellow is singing.

>>93193979
I remember that, it's why that scene in The Trail confused me so much, I recall the mention that she was the only one of her kind and it's why she was the only one that could've done it since people witnessed her do it. Then again it could be that the animators fucked up when animating those gems in The Zoo

>>93185786
What is a heart to a gem though? Is the gem the heart or is there something within the gem that's equal to a heart?

The Leauge of 10000 Planets and His Divine Shadow from Lexx.

>>93182904
Enough of these fucking "who can beat the shit out of gempire" threads, we get them every week.

How about if an anon was put in charge as a Diamond for the day. How would each of us go about crushing Homeworld's enemies into starjunk?

>>93193929
I'm not sure how much of an edge a fusion actually provides the gems. Homeworld gems only let same gems fuse and that just produces bigger results of the same type in the examples we've seen. It could be that when they're really at war they create massive fusions of rubies and others or that certain fusions enhance the gem's powers like Ruby's heat generation growing to full on fire. I kind of doubt that though since the only battle we've seen they used Jaspers as foot soldiers.

>>93193999
>i didn't watch the show but i'm going to criticize it anyway for a mistake that doesn't actually exist
They're explicitly referred to as rose quartzes.

>>93193564
To be fair, humanity jobs hard in those games.

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If Oryx could take a race of time-travelling jizz globs occupying ancient metal armor, I'm sure he can take gemstones with hard light projected bodies and use them for his own benefit. Maybe also give them some bullshit abilities like the other Taken.

>>93183562
i knew the guy who does the emperor text to speech videos. he's a pretty decent guy, but i wish I could say the same for the company he keeps.

>>93193999
They might be concealing the existence of an entire class of them.

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>>93183061
>Allowing filthy orcs to take advantage of any other tech that could give any edge!

BY THE FUCKING EMPEROR THIS WON'T STAND!!!!

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>>93194067

If I had the skill and charima to do it…;

First, I wouldn't be the leader…or rather the official leader. I'd keep the diamonds as powerful figureheads and keep my head low as a puppet master. Perhaps be like a pearl and condition the leaders to treat me as such so my cover isn't blown.
I'd commission sniper gems in secret. Or gems that can shape shift for an indefinite time. Fake a democratic foreign policy and have a secret group to take out the opposition from the inside. Have a 'shoot first and ask questions later' in regards to rebellious groups and set off the corrupting wave before putting troops on the ground. Perhaps aim for the rebel leader first and plant people into the rebellion to fill the power vacuum and end up puppeting the rebellion from within. Push for firearms/projectiles as summonable weapons. Make death star like weapons that aren't an unstable cluster.

>>93193314
samurai jack's sword is the righteousness of the human spirit tempered by three gods into the shape of a sword.

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>>93182904

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>>93185982
>Except way less cool?
You had it at cluster than this made it's way out.

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>>93194112
>>93194254
Upon rewatching both The Zoo and The Trail the argument Zircone makes is that there wasn't any chance for ANY Rose Quartz to have been close to Pink Diamond considering that Rose Quartz had already been a recognized treat for a couple hundred of years, so I think those WHERE actually Rose Quartz but where immediately bubbled as soon as Rose reveled meaning that Rose was in fact the only Rose Quartz gem left at the time of the shattering. Which means that I was wrong.

>>93186967
yellow diamond is probably immune to them on account of appearing to be based on her own power. they may also need her to charge them up. just like, a delivery peridot shows up at her office with a giant box on a hover cart"i got a crate of destabalizers that need charging my diamond" *YD zaps the crate* "thank you my diamond"

>>93189540
I'm pretty sure the Gems would squash the Star Wars armies. Star Wars and Gems seem to fight pretty similarly with troops on the ground and gem forces will stomp in that regard no problem.

>>93194452
>massive multi-quartz fusion wrestling with an AT-AT

>>93194452
anyone using light based weaponry would be at a disadvantage, sound based weapons would completely obliterate them, so they'd be able to be conquered by Sith pretty easily

>>93183061
Orks would shatter gems and then collect them. They'd use them as teeth. Eventually a few of the fuckers will think it give the Moar Powah. Then the reality shift happens and they start assuming the powers of the gems they have in their mouth.

>>93194493
sound based? the only time we seen a sound attack do anything is when steven's shield disrupted lapis' water clone jutsu.

>>93194493
>conquered
>Sith
the Sith manipulate, anon
they haven't done any conquering in thousands of years

>>93194531
gem weaponry is a tuning fork

>>93194532
merely a more subtle form of control

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Who would win in a fight, Gem-Knights or Homeworld

Assuming the Gem-knights have as many GK monsters as Homeworld does

>>93182904
Considering they've proven to be largely incompetent? A platoon of blind stormtroopers could probably do the job.

>>93194532

If anything manipulating gems would be pretty easy. You just need the right lack of empathy to get to the top.

>>93194589
Yeah, you could pretty quickly inspire a hedonistic rebellion ala Rose Quartz with the Force empathy powers and Sith knowledge of getting crunk as shit

>>93194563
>gem weaponry is a tuning fork
We don't know how that works.

>>93193999
>Then again it could be that the animators fucked up when animating those gems in The Zoo
No Yellow talks says she doesn't know why Blue keeps all the remaining Roses in there and that they should have shattered the whole batch but Diamond says it's because it's all they have left of Pink.

>>93194067
These threads are a million times more fun than whatever shit you want to talk about. That's why we have them a lot.

>>93194565
Literally what is that

>>93194565
Gem-Knights, no contest. Even a team of Precures, ANY team, could stomp the Homeworld flat.

>>93194628
>>93194563
we just saw, in the trial, that yellow diamond's lightning attack causes the same lines to appear on gems as destabalizers. so it is NOT a stretch to say that destabalizers are imitation of yellow diamond's power.

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>>93182904

Strong hands.

>>93183219
>Yevethans

That's the one race in Star Wars that is so idiotic that they wouldn't feel out of place in Invader Zim.

Well, them and the cheering bugs.

>>93194905
Lightning isn't sound and it's probably got some other property that makes it work that way on gems so it's probably not just electricity.

>>93193999
it sounded like as soon a Rose rebelled every other rose quartz got bubbled on the spot, meaning Rose was the only active member of her kind

>>93184041
>implying Trazyn wouldn't just make a collection of every type of gem in his tomb world

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>>93194832
They are an archetype in the Yugioh card game. Which they also happen to use fusion. They are the original gems that could fuse.

>>93185251
Borg: Can't assimilate gems, Humans can fight Borg on a good day and they usually lose because the Borg convert humans and bolster their numbers. Gems Win
>>93183827
Cromulons: Every gem has the innate ability to sing and preform (for no good reason but still) Gems win
>>93185274
Transformers: Are desolated by a never ending civil war that has left thire race numbering in the thousands, Gems Win
>>93185406
Zerg: Zerg have numbers over the Gems and are actually highly intelligent and would quickly adapt to shattering the Gems first. But they actually wouldn't care about the Gems cause they can't get essence out of them cause they aren't organic. Never the less Zerg Win
>>93187309
>>93192557
Eldrazi: Gotta agree with dude here, the Eldrazi have been canonically nerfed to shit by WoTC to the point where Gems win
>>93189045
Irkens: Master infiltrators, conquered countless world over possibly hundreds of years. I'mma give this one to the little green men cause rule of funny, Irkens win
>>93189601
Darkseid: Ok, just for that speech, anon, Darkseid wins, but also would Superman and the justice league come to Homeworld's aid if Apocalypse decided to invade. That would change the out come but With out it Darksied wins

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Would the Qu be able to defeat Homeworld, or are their strategies too reliant on genetic manipulation to stop a non-organic species?

>>93182953

The Zentradi.

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>>93182904
Vezon with the mask of life, mask of dimensional gates and the spear of fusion could solo homeworld.
But to be fair let's assume Dark Mirror's Takanuva tries to solo Homeworld. Does he?

>>93194993

That's probably where the decline of Homeworld began really especially if the Rose Quartzes were their primary healers.

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>>93195132
Who cares about Superman and the Justice League, the real question here is would Highfather and the New Gods of New Genesis defend Homeworld from Apokolips?

>>93195360
They were new with the new Diamond

>>93194822
>repeating stuff that's happened
>more fun than conquering the universe
What are you, gay?

>>93183909
>>93184883

Idiots. You poof them and then keep them in sealed display cases made to be resistant to hard-light weaponry.

>No Culture

All it would take is 1 ship.

1 S H I P

S

H

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>>93195375
>PD was the first gem to care about the survival of her race
>her existence caused the other diamonds to discover feelings and inspired gemkind to care about each other
>this is why she was killed

>>93195579
Look up what the different chakra points where each Diamond has their gem represent, I guarantee things will make more sense.

>>93183667
But can Power-Man defeat himself?

>>93193170
The Navy top brass are extremely powerful individuals, no shame in losing to them.

>>93193174
This, looking at 40k factions in a vacuum is dumb, the only reason they're interesting is because they play off each others ridiculous nature.

And yes Rose Quartz proved that a Gem can reject their gods.

>>93192479
are we talking crockercorp?
or just the hivebent trolls?

>>93194452
The only light based weapon in star wars is the light saber. All the guns shoot gas that has been turned plasma and then highly accelerated, this is why they're called blasters and not lasers.

>>93190264
A lot of the races from the Ratchet and Clank series could do some serious damage to The Gem Homeworld when you think about it.

>>93195265
They could design some pretty cool abbominations to combat the gems. It'd be a toss up though I think.

>>93195265

They also use nanotechnology, so there's a chance they could use it to turn corruption into an actual evolutionary stage for Gemkind rather than a state they can be put into.

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Aku burns their empire away, world by world, corrupting all that aren't slain.
Come to think of it, would anyone that isn't Jack or someone similarly blessed by the specific Samurai Jack deities have any chance at all of even hurting Aku?

>>93193811
Yeah they're basically communists with surf's.

>>93196011
Link with the Master Sword probably could, as well as anyone else with weaponry blessed or enchanted to be super effective against evil.

>>93195964
That's most likely what gem corruption is though. The corruption song was forced de-evolution to their primal state. Just give them another several thousand years.

>>93194155
If Trump could do it an alien could.

>>93182998
Get that weakshit outta here

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>>93196178
forgot my image

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>>93195265
REMOVE QU

>>93185241
Gahl also is light attuned, and can suck the light from guardians. Since gems are literally magic light rocks, he could probably eat their souls and decorate his armor with their gems.

So these are just the new Goku vs Superman threads I guess? Are you guys so bored you need to discuss fictional alien race wars?

>>93196311
Yes

>>93196011
Any weapon that specifically smites evil should work. The Master Sword, Keyblades, Run of the mill holy bullets, etc.

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>>93196244b
Step off, bitch.

>>93195648
but squard was able to stab him

>>93196381

Whitebeard was pretty much dying of his illness and his reaction time was way off his prime; even a few years before, Ace got his ass handed to him by the old man while the latter was asleep/

>>93194010
A "heart" in KH is basically just a metaphysical representation of one's self and bonds with others. People are normally born with one, but anything can grow a heart given enough emotional connection to others. It's how Pinocchio, Roxas, Xion, and Axel all grew hearts.

Depends on whether Gemworld would operate under KH universe rules or not.

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>>93196191
Does Humanity from a universe where Humanity doesn't fuck around count?

>>93196142
I was talking more about how human weapons were gimped in almost every way and the general incompetence they portrayed at all steps. But that works too.

>>93196311
The target of these aliens vs aliens threads is almost always SU, so it's just another way for anons to shit on the show.

>>93195868
lightsaber uses the same shit, they're not literally laser blades
dumbass

>>93196474
>Implying the roboprez wasn't impressive
And you know, mutants, robots, hologram jamming technology etc. And Majestic WAS slowly being consumed by other aliens...

>>93196487
Nobody's shitting on it though

>>93195279
>im-fucking-plying.

Tbh the black race would win because black people are just strong in general its not racist if its a compliment

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AKU WINS

>>93182953
The Na'vi without their great white savior trope, probably even with.

Barsoom, all societies involved get smoked.

Any of the cannon fodded alien forces from the MCU, like the Chitauri or the Sakaarans.

>>93195265
>>93196244
>>93196359
what the hell is this shit? looks fucking awesome

>>93182943

The gem empire on Homeworld COULD smash a lot of the fictitious races in many other series, but their greatest assets are taboo and their bureaucracy prevents adaptation.

If Homeworld got as creative as the Crystal Gems with fusion and cooperation with native species, they could create clusters of non-shattered gems that fuse willingly into planet sized goddesses who can manifest basically anything they wanted whenever they wanted to locally.

But it's a kids' show so they're all boobs and ninnys.

>>93182904
>Advanced Civilization
>Ground troops purely use tractor beams and Melee weapons in combat
>First real laser type weapon is blocked by a shield
Literally anyone. Give anyone on /k/ a gun and enough ammunition and the gempire is no longer a threat.

>>93197710

It's a book called All Tomorrows, and it gets even crazier as you continue reading it.

>>93183061
Technically the Orks are asexual. Seriously they breed by exploding spores everywhere when they die.

>>93193174
>The only real question is if Gems can be corrupted to Chaos.
Now that is interesting. How would the gems act with Chaos?

>>93197825
Technically the Gems are asexual. Seriously they breed by implanting something in the crust of a planet and sucking all the juice out of it for hundreds of years.

>Gems attempt to invade earth 1000 years ago
>Somehow fail to conquer a pre-industry planet as space farers
gems suck dick desu

>>93198247
it turns out their weakness is the human penis

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>>93198263
This man is the true MURDERCOCK

>>93198297
is emps really human

>>93198305
Well... he speaks for mankind?

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>>93198297
Sadly, his dick don't work as good as it used to

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Your power is laughable, creature-yet-not-creature. Borne from the earth, your gems give you form, purpose, compelled by false idols you plunge yourself into a life of chaos. My gift shall save you. All will be order. All will become flood. You will understand. Even now, my spores infiltrate your rock, your tether to the mortal coil. Who am I? I am a monument to your sins. All shall cower before the flood. You claim to conquer planets, yet even the implacable must surrender to natural order. I cannot be destroyed. I am infinite in scope, for I am immeasurably more than just the sum of my parts. You shall become one with the gravemind.

>>93198699
gems are immune to the spores but maybe not the Gravemind's bullshit

>>93198813
Im not too sure, but i thought the gravemind could corrupt even AI with its powers.

Im pretty sure a fully grown gravemind is up there in terms of power. Not as pwoerful as 40k, but it could wipe the floor with many races like star trek, or star wars. The sheer level of bullshit it pulls off in the forerunner books gives my theory weight.

A little background for the gravemind:

>its the corrupted essence of tbe race that created most organic life, after a catastrophe, they turned themselves into a powder that could genetically remake them after all the trouble simmered down. In essence graveminds are really just a crude facsimile of a true forerunner, but are still incredibly powerful.

>made from dead infected biomass clumped together into a massive form.

> incredibly high intellect, Has the collective knoweledge of all its hosts.

> worlds most baller orator, its sentences are smooth as silk but you know it could fuck you up. speaks in iambic pentameter.(not really a power but i mean, pretty cool)

>>93183452
This. Thought about it; his blasts have bliwn up planets (with enough force and correct aim, but still). Unless the diamonds can survive a planet buster; they are dead. Oh, sorry, shattered. Like Pink Diamond!

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So just how strong is perfect Jasper? She can move as fast as Garnet who is FTE, wrecked a mountainside by slamming into it at full speed, can jump really high, etc.

>>93199098
Depends on the booking.

>>93199040
40k isn't actually all that tough, it's just that their universe is extremely mega-super-hostile fuck-you and it WILL wreck whatever you try to put in it. Yeah Gravemind has wack powers.
>>93199098
She's dead 'ard

>>93183549
Thanks, I needed a good reason to not have to go through these threads.

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>>93182904
Behold, a version of humanity that could beat the gems
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3003

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Dan with a baseball bat and Chris

>>93199766
...infected humans?

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Can the gems defeat the Slivers if the queen and the hivelord are around?

>>93199849
worse, infected humans with access to any location in space:

>SCP-3003-4 is a facility capable of creating wormholes between an apparatus at its center and any other point in space. SCP-3003-4 occupies 113 km2 of an otherwise unused polar region of SCP-3003. Most of this is dedicated to the creation and transport of several forms of exotic matter, as well as creating brief laser pulses in the 1040 watt range, in order to stabilize wormholes for longevity and traversability. For reasons that are currently unclear to the Foundation, this has no effect on the targeted location other than the linkage of the two locations.

>Each activation of SCP-3003-4 requires approximately one zettajoule (1021 joules) of energy; in comparison, Earth's annual energy consumption is roughly 0.5 ZJ, whereas SCP-3003-3 consumes about 833 ZJ yearly. SCP-3003-3 has been using SCP-3003-4 primarily to examine planets they've identified as candidates for expansion, though they have also explored the possibility of using it for resource collection.

>>93192581
One Dalek could probably EXTERMINATE Homeworld by itself.

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-420 000 CH

Filthy Frank goes on his One-Man-Crusade against Homeworld and the Diamond Authority.

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>>93200545
He is not successful.

>>93182953

The Strogg, at least in a war of attirion since they can't use gems to replace their losses and the fact that they only have a single planet while the gempire has several

>>93189630
Good. Their ships at last will have developed the ability to physically cower and piss itself.

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>>93182904
Not a complete btfo but just to see two races wage war against eacb other.

Just imagine it.

>Hordes of Rubies rushing at a capture point while getting cut down by heavy laser fire.
>Deep striking kindergarten machines to destroy federation ground troops and to create quartz soldiers from the ground.
>Male Gazorpian infantry going toe to toe with a quartz soldier with every intent to rape.

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>>93200545
>>93200555
Pink Diamond was shattered and was replaced by a filthy lookalike: a conspiracy theory

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>>93182904
Not really a race. But this dude.

>>93201321
Looks like a black MTG card

>>93201321
Isn't this thing stuck in a vat of acid? I don't think that it can event travel to Homeworld.

>>93201367
*even travel

>>93201367
Hey hey, we aren't talking if it could get there, we're talking if it could beat it. And it could.

>>93201480
Yeah, true

>>93182904
The Earth Empire from Prophet. One character talks about a species they destroyed while flying through a bunch of wreckage shaped like limbs and sentient crystal is actually a plot point, funny enough.

>>93201480
Hey hey, anything from SCP is super lame and uninteresting.

>>93201550
You ever heard of the vending machine that can create blackholes?

>>93201567
Or hot coco?

>>93201580
Or a drink that's so good that anyone who has it kills themselves because everything else would be such a letdown?

>>93201592
I love that damn thing :)