>yfw you realize 80% of Marvel books are selling less than

>>93141700
I'm the closest I've ever been to dropping capeshit entirely from my ongoing reading list and I'm happy for it.

>>93141933
So no DC? They're putting out some decent stuff like Deathstoke and New Super-man

>>93142019
Only Young Animal for me.

>>93142056
Same, right now Bug is the only Big 2 book I'm reading since Future Quest ended.

>>93141933
Do it. I did it like two years ago and it's a smart decision. Once you stop exhausting yourself keeping up with all their shit you have so much time to actually read comics.

>>93141700
They became shit. As simple as that. If it's not social justice bullshit, it's bad plots and passive aggressive remarks against the readership.

Right now, Marvel is like this: "So we are not selling? What the hell is wrong with you?!"

When it should be: "We are not selling? What's wrong with our books?"

>>93141700
I use to buy 30 marvel books a month now I buy 2 know why? Shit stories, characters I grew up with & enjoyed for over 20 years got suddenly replaced with nobodies from out of no where or had their characterization completely changed in clickbait attempts to pander so they are unrecognizable outside their codename.

Who gives a fuck about Marvel? There are tons of superior indieshit comics.

>>93142087
So much this Marvel's become one of those restaurants that sells cold disgusting food & complains it's the customers fault they don't like it, not the stores for serving food people don't like

>>93142266
Like Mockingbird killing her lover to hide the fact that she actually cheated on her boyfriend and then said that he raped her courtesy of Kelly Sue Deconick? Or Whor?

>>93141700
>retarded PR tactics
>doing "big events" every 6 months at the very best
>hiring people with absolutely 0 experience or ability to write/illustrate
>releasing absolutely garbage comics more frequently than not
>trying to make tumblr snowflakes buy comics

did I miss anything?

>>93141933
I'm only pulling Kamandi and Doom Patrol from the Big 2. Is anyone else fatigued from these standard superhero stories? I have no idea how these characters have endured this long

>>93142341
talk shit properly man
mockingbird was cain
deconnick just doesn't sell kek

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>>93141700
The incestuous Bendis family that worked so well for them has now descended into complete genetic failure.

They have the motherfucking Allreds on a Silver Surfer book, and they've saddled them with the Slott for fucks sake.

>>93142474
p r i e s t r o k e

>>93142549
Mockingbird killed man that fucked her while she was in a relationship and then killed him because she did not wanted to go through a break up. Then she said that her victim raped her.

I talk shit however i want, you fat cunt. I will kick your ass.

>>93142598
I know everyone saying this probably seems like a rabid faggot at this point but it really is good

>>93141700
Perlmutter gutting editorial in 2012, over-extending writers and employing people who've never worked in the medium before has sent quality plummeting.

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>>93141700

>>93142679
that anon was complaining about standard superhero fare and deathstroke definitely isn't

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You know there's something wrong when the japs make better capeshit than the big 2

>>93142841
Nah, the Japs have good eye. But they still have issues with writing capeshit. Your example is not capeshit, it's pure unfiltered shonen with the tropes and cliches of the shonen action genre.

>>93142776
Lol. Pussies.

>>93141700
I would buy Marvel Comics, but none of them have ever appealed to me. From some of the art to the stories themselves.

>>93142266
das racist

>>93141700
I don't get why people still read cape comics.

>>93142635
You seem to have completely missed that that guy told you that Deconick didn't write Mockingbird.
He never remotely defended that choice by Cain to terribly retcon Bobbie in that comment

>>93142283
like..

>>93142986
No, she did. I know more than you two.

My biggest problem with Marvel is the ducking art and writing. That's over half of the problems right there.

>>93142999
Copra.
>tfw a suicide squad fanfic is better than anything on current Marvel

>>93141700
The comic industry is finally dying.
It's gotten so bad that at this point i'm almost happy.

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>>93143040
>ducking

>>93143203
Maybe if it dies, it can be revived into something better.

>>93142877
Maybe shonen lends itself to capeshit?

>>93142084
>you have so much time to actually read comics.
Which comics?

>>93143053
>ss
>marvel

>>93143281
I never said that ss was on marvel.

>>93143203
It's only the American comic market which is falling. Other comic markets are doing incredibly well. It is extremly pathetic when a comic series in Germany casually hits 250.000 per month while comics on the American market struggle to break the 200k line with thier comics despite having 4 times more people.

>>93143569
>burgerclaps of all are the only ones realizing modern comics are garbage

>>93142841
That guy's power is just having a tail, why is he in the same class as the girl who can make anything, the dude with absolute mastery over fire and ice and the crow dude with the ridiculous shadow powers?

Also why isn't there a stretchy dude?

>>93143586
Nah, burgerclaps just focus way too much on Capeshit. And they really suck at distributing thier comics.

When do sales for the month come out? It's usually the first weekend of the month after right? Shouldn't it be this weekend?

>>93142841
>Crying protagonist the anime.

Yeah, no. Fuck that shit.

>>93141700
Marvel now resents their fans and is trying to bring in a new audience who will never /ever/ buy comics by shunning their previous fans.

>>93141700
Forced sales gimmicks, crossovers, and reboots
I would still be reading Deadpool if they didn't have that massive crossover and 10 dollar comics every six months

>>93143040
>Art and writing

That is all a comic is. What's left after that?

>>93143915
Editing.

>>93143053
>Look this up
Holy fuck why are trades literally a million dollars?

>>93144502
What? Each trade is like 20 bucks.

>>93141700
There are a limited number of readers with a limited amount of money, so the more spinoff titles they publish the less any title will sell.

So Black Panther was a sales success, but then they tried to capitalize on that success by doing spinoffs, which don't sell and also cause the main title to sell less.

The editors know they could have bigger sales successes if they published fewer titles, but they're obviously under orders to put as much crap on the market as they can.