wait, so ice king isn't simon because simon is actually

>>93116413
It's like Alzheimer's.

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>>93116432
Wow, how did you figure that one out.

i dont get it

>>93117730
AT is shit.

>>93117730
what do you not understand

>>93117917
it's average

>>93118001
how simons trapped in the crown shouldn't he be the ice king himself?

>>93118077
He is. The crown keeps copies of everyone who ever wore it. That's the Simon in the crown. Ice King himself is also Simon. It's why they gave crown-Simon his own little happy ending right in that episode. We'll never see him again, but he'll go on existing indefinitely (along with all the other people trapped in the crown).

>>93117917
This. I don't understand how anyone watched it past the Flame Princess shit.

>>93118141
oh ok i see now thanks <3

>>93118178
Because it's a good show with character development and worldbuilding along with being pretty funny? I know half of you are contrarians but you really should try harder.

>>93118178
I watch it in the hopes of seeing PB's feet.

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>>93118178
I'm surprised anyone watches AT at all with CN's current schedule

>>93118141
oooh, that makes sense now

>>93118178
The flame princess episodes were boring but it got good again once they were over

>>93118279
>with character development
lol

>>93118279
Hello, reddit.

>>93118707
>>93118775
Neither of these are good arguments (but I'm on 4chan so that's to be expected.) Also, reddit the whole 'le reddit is what u r lawl' is the most retarded way to insult someone I've ever seen and It shows who the manchildren of this board are imo. contrarianfags

>>93118707
>it got good again once they were over

>Gunter is now t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m
>Finn is an immortal reincarnating deity

How can one man have such shit taste?

>>93118357
Holy fuck that looks awful

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>>93118357

what the fuck i thought this was a meme
is this seriously what you guys have to live with in the US?

>>93120450
You're describing one episode out of like 150

>>93121252
Lmao apparently AT has had literally no reruns (besides April 1) since last July

>>93121252

What we've been through in the past is way worse than that.

The most unforgivable thing about that schedule is that abomination that is the Live-Action Cat in the Hat movie.

>>93121252
Yes. Good thing Spongebob still runs over on Nick: It's basically the last good cartoon still on air

This is actually really interesting because it comes out of almost nowhere, the Simon story exist as somewhat proxy redemption arc for the Ice King, and this episode unintentionally points of the major flaw in this because the Ice King is not Simon, it doesn't make Ice King sympathetic to know the backstory of Simon. Instead what it did was muddy the waters of the way people treated a man with no control of his actions. It meant the show had to neuter him, he could no longer be the evil wizard kidnapper and instead becomes a senile old man, despite this not being a character arc.

>>93118357

I remember reading a YouTube comment that said something like "Did you know Cartoon Network has been airing new episodes of Adventure Time every weeknight for the past two weeks? I didn't... Because CN doesn't advertise anything on TV that's not Teen Titans Go!"

Apparently, one has to be following them on Twitter or Facebook to get that news.

>>93121457
see >>93118141

>>93118279
hahahahaha

>>93120353

Shut the fuck up, lol

The only thing I care about AT are the girls and the cheesecake/porn that comes with it

This show is a good example of an attemptn to explain questions about the past that wasn't necessary or impactful on the character

This is why "I remember you" is such a bad episode besides being boarded by Sugar and the crying singing bullshit that comes with her.

The episode begins to tell a story about a relationship that never existed in the story, it detaches from the story because viewers have no previous attachment to their shared story. So besides the parts of the story which are confusing, it's difficult to care about "Simon" because he is so starkly different from the Ice King, he serves the role a new char, and we know what happens to both of them, the only question the flashbacks answers are questions it brings up itself, like why do IK and Marcy know eachother? And in the end there is no growth from either of them, just a bit of exposition that no one in the context of the series ever asked for or was brought up prior.

The Simon backstory doesn't add anything to the series it's not even necessary to the story of the Lich, only to the alternate wish reality, in which it didn't matter anyway because nothing in that universe mattered and no growth resulted from it.

>>93121832
It's never stated that those are copies.

>>93122543

Is this pasta? How could you have so little inside of your heart? What has happened to you that I Remember You is your least favorite episode of Adventure Time?

>>93122543
Have you watched the modern show at all? Their backstory for sure had an impact on their characters; aside from the fact that we knew more about their history and what made them who they are in the modern show, it changed how other characters looked at the Ice King and Marceline had character development to become nicer and more willing to reconnect with people.

Even then, judging AT episode by how much they add to the series is retarded. Thank You is one of the best episodes of the show but it adds nothing to the show at large, just a good self contained story.

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Simon is basically like a Gunther (the original) acting like what he thinks the original Ice Elemental acted like, the crown only mimics him and keeps the real person sealed within it.

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>>93122919
>that total lack of respect to the early seasons
Nah, don't care about what this fag says, especially since he acts like Steven Universe is the greatest thing ever.

It's telling that the only parts of AT he claimed to like at all was the Simon and Marcy stuff and Bubbline, aka the most overhyped parts of the entire show. Probably saw that those aspects are what are most discussed and acted like he was into them for the fan cred or some shit.

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>>93123092

He roasted SU too, AT is just a worse show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKpQ_FwoPAU

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>>93118279
A "good" story is mapped out and has purpose. AT is what happens when someone just keeps writing for years.

>>93123188
>He roasted SU too
>By playfully pointing out like 3 flaws of the series
With AT he took a shit on pretty much every aspect of it, not even in a playfully joking manner like every other So This is Basically video. Even if you think AT is worse there's SOME good to it and that fag acted like it was the worst thing ever which is just untrue, it brought CN back from the brink for a reason.

what i don't get about it is
why is the crown connected to the internet

>>93122155
Real nice rebuttal there junior.

>>93123945
And don't you forget it, bitch

>>93123286
That has zero basis in reality though. They can certainly evolve over time and morph and change into something new. Just because you don't like that doesn't mean it's not true.

>>93122919
>"As Rebecca Sugar tries to give the show redeeming qualities"
Does this guy actually think she made a single good episode that isn't massively overrated just like her own show?

>>93124094
He's a fag but so are you if you think Sucrose didn't make good AT episodes back in the day.

>>93122649
The fact that I never asked why the evil wizard was an evil wizard because we didn't need a shitty backstory that changes nothing about who he is now and only tangentially related to the garbage Lich plotline.

The fact that singing and crying is not character development which is all Rebecca Sugar fucking writes because she is a fucking inept writer who has to use cheap tricks like that instead of creating legitimately compelling story/character arcs.

>>93124029
Stories can evolve over time, but AT's lack of planning and bullshit retcons are self-evident. "Just because you like that doesn't mean it's not true.

>>93122868
But there is no value as a self-contained story to Simon's backstory, it's predictable there is exist no tension because the only two characters involved are alive and you know what will happen to Ice King. The episodes weren't funny. They weren't even really that cute.

>Ice King had character development
No he didn't, nothing in the episodes suggest Ice King even had any idea what the hell was going on, he didn't learn some lesson about right and wrong or fighting his obsession with Princesses, those changes happened over the course of the show with absolutely no catalyst.

>Marceline had character development to become nicer and more willing to reconnect with people
This was never shown to be a character flaw of Marceline's prior to the arc, in fact in the episode "what was missing" we'd already seen that Marceline desired to reconnect with PB for whatever reason PB avoided her. There was no lesson for Marceline, at most, there was the chance for her to say a proper goodbye to the old Simon in the episode with Betty. But her characterization prior to the revelation of the Ice King backstory didn't ever even implied she was hung up on someone or something or was holding herself back because of it.

None of the character changes related to these characters can be seen to have these episodes as a catalyst, must rather that the change occurred out of nowhere.

>>93122543
>This is why "I remember you" is such a bad episode

Are you insane or retarded? That episode will forever be considered one of the best of the show. I remember how weeks after it premiered the internet was crazy. Fuck you and your shit taste lol you are lonely on it, virgin!

>>93124462
>it's predictable there is exist no tension because the only two characters involved are alive and you know what will happen to Ice King
You're fucking stupid, making the viewer wonder "Oh will this character die this episode" isn't the only way to create tension. Flashbacks like this can still be interesting on their own and they can show where characters came from and how they ended up the way they did, the fact that we know how the characters end up doesn't make them worthless.

I didn't say IK had character development, but it did have an impact on him. Because of that episode and others like it people started treating Ice King better instead of just looking down on him and disliking him. It impacted the way others in the show viewed him.
As for Marceline, it did change her character too. It's true that this aspect of her character wasn't shown before this episode, but it still caused her to become more mellow and willing to open up to people. With Bubblegum the end of What Was Missing didn't show them having a desire to reconnect, it just relieved some of the tension they were feeling toward each other. Marcy and PB only start to reconnect in Sky Witch and episodes after I Remember You, so to me the character development seems to have stuck.

The show does have character development come out of nowhere at times but I don't think this is a flaw of I Remember You, for me it does a decent job of telling interesting backstory on Marcy and IK while also changing their characters a decent deal. It wasn't all smoothly done but that's just part of the cost of doing business with Adventure Time.

>>93124122
I assume Sucrose is Rebecca Sugar? Because she's only made like 3 or 4 good episodes
>It came from the Nightosphere
>Daddy's little monster
>Mortal folly (Was ok)
>What was missing (Was ok)

She also wrote some of the worst episodes
>Gotcha!
>Incendium
>Simon & Marcy
>I remember you
>Jake The Dog

>>93124675
>"Oh will this character die this episode" isn't the only way to create tension.
You're right you can create tension by having characters into a situation where you don't know how it will turn out for them, they could lose something important or otherwise, they're relationship to another character, a relationship viewers have an investment in, could be damaged, etc.

But the problem is, this doesn't exist in I remember you.
Prior to this episode the audience is given no chance to invest in IK and Marcy's relationship. So when Marceline begins interacting with him in this way it doesn't seem to be much more than weird. If you watch this episode without watching Simon & Marcy you have no emotional stake in their relationship and so the tension between the two characters is hard to sympathize with, even harder when one of the characters himself doesn't.

>people started treating Ice King better instead of just looking down on him and disliking him
What does this make better? This dynamic change is completely unwarranted as the Ice King himself remains the exact same as before (but the Ice King's characters has morphed dramatically due to the writer's having no idea what to do with him), the only justifiable reason to treat Ice King differently is because he stopped capturing princesses or being evil, which was a completely inexplicable change. But otherwise, Ice King has always been a crazy old guy looking for someone to love him.

>caused her to become more mellow and willing to open up to people
Why? This wasn't something that was shown to be a problem with her before, and nothing in the episode explains why change?

>>93124675
>What Was Missing didn't show them having a desire to reconnect
>>"But I shouldn't have to be the one that makes up with you"
>>"So... why do I want to?
Why do I want to..."

Marceline wasn't hung up on hating PB, she had the desire to reconnect with her far before the Simon backstory.

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>>93124650
People having shit taste doesn't make the episode good

Popular =/= Good

"Fuck you and your shit taste lol you are lonely on it, virgin!"
Is that supposed to be an argument?

>>93125303
Good AT episodes Sugar made:
>Power Animal
>Chamber of the Frozen Blades
>The Real You
>Susan Strong
>Morituri Te Salutamus
>Fionna and Cake (only the first one)

Most of the episodes you say are some of the worst are just fine, decent at worst. You have some truly odd opinions to actually think those episodes are bad at all, let alone terrible. The only episode she did that I think is actually terrible is Bad Little Boy.

>>93123286
>Watching AT for the """story"""
See, this is where you went wrong.

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>>93125979
>Susan Strong
>Fionna and Cake
>Good

Bad little boy only as bad as the original Fionna and Cake, except it, had an actually good song because Marshal Lee had a great voice actor.

New eps when?

>>93126355
We don't know. Probably in a month or two.

>>93126299
Are we really at the point where we're acting like episodes like Susan Strong aren't great? Come on man. It's classic Adventure Time right there with well done emotional beats.

And Fionna and Cake is much better than BLB, F/C handled the genderbend characters in an interesting enough way and the ending is amazing. BLB was lazy pandering to fangirls who wanted more Marshall Lee and little more than that. The song didn't save the episode.

>>93126420
>we're acting like episodes like Susan Strong aren't great?

Come on now, Susan Strong was a good episode, but hardly great. Especially when you consider how they botched her character in the later seasons.

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>>93116413
The Simon in the crown is merely a self-aware digital copy of the original Simon.

>>93127213
I think it's unfair to shit on an episode because of what other episodes did later. I try to judge them on their own merits and shit.
And yeah, I'd totally say it was great. Not 11/10 best episode ever but easily like a high 8/10 or something. Good laughs, did lots of interesting stuff with Finn's character, introducing humanity in the setting besides just Finn, his and Susan's charming relationship, and the ending which was pretty heavy.

Opinions and all but I definitely consider it great.

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>>93118357
Everytime I turn to CN and see
>YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW
I die a little inside

>>93127233
but is he a tiny clone of hitler?

>>93121404
I'd rather watch that abortion than the cancer that is TTG
>>93121441
Only if your lucky and they're playing an episode from one of the earlier seasons, otherwise it makes no difference.

>>93126420
Fionna and Cake didn't handle genderbends well because genderbends are just a meme and they were nothing but fan-service to begin with. It's fine as a joke but Fionna and Cake wasn't a funny episode, and probably would have been funnier if it was just a normal episode, Bad little boy was more interesting because it was still in a way a Finn and Marceline episode, which have been some of the best episodes of the show.

Susan Strong was interesting because we got to see how much Finn actually cared about finding other humans, and it was interesting in that regard but compared to other episodes of that season it doesn't hold up. But I'll admit it's better than Season 4 or 5 episodes (a lot of them at least).

>>93127607
Fionna and Cake handled the genderbends well because the characters were still like their original forms but changed in ways that make sense with the sex change. It was interesting to see, and the novelty factor outweighs the fact that the episode wasn't too funny or anything. Plus, like I said before, ending is GOAT.
BLB doesn't have novelty factor and is much more agressive pandering than the first episode because all of it is look how hunky and cool Marshall Lee is, oooh look at him flirting with Fionna so the female fans can self insert as her, look at him rap and be a bad boy with a heart of gold, it was just boring.
>Bad little boy was more interesting because it was still in a way a Finn and Marceline episode
It wasn't at all, the characters were too warped for that to fit. Marceline has never so agressively flirted with Finn and Finn has never been so firm in resisting her. Your statement is only true on a surface level. I agree with you that Finn/Marcy episodes are great, may they rest in peace, but BLB wasn't that, it was a Twilight knockoff. BLB was shit.

As for Susan Strong it's pretty good and easily above the more mediocre/boring episodes of season 2, like The Pods or Silent King or Blood Under the Skin and what have you. Ultimately this is a terrible argument for arguing that it isn't great, because all you're saying is that it isn't the best episode of the season. It's still pretty great though.

>>93126164
No argument there. Unfortunately they also shat on all the characters too, though.

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>>93118357
>this is real

>>93129345
Islands and Elements are some of the best anything related with AT. Period.

>>93129473
>some of the best anything related with AT. Period.
You forgot
>Period. Period. If someone has shit taste

>>93129555
I can't tell if you are a nostalgiafag that saw AT years ago or just a retard. Islands was fantastic. Kill yourself.

>>93129649
Some tasteless dumbass who loves hamfisted drama is hardly worth killing myself for.

>>93129649
Islands was good, but it wasn't as good as first few seasons of AT.

>>93120450
That Gunter thing was foreshadowed as far back as that episode with Marceline's dad.

>>93129717
You are overrating the fuck out of the first seasons, yes, they were good, but they weren't incredible. Stop.

>>93129731
Wrong. It was a one-off joke they decided to later give some significance too, like everything else in AT.

>>93129731
It was a joke that they retroactively made be foreshadowing many years later, it wasn't planned from the start
And that doesn't prevent the concept from being stupid

>>93129717
I prefer modern AT.

>>93128228
>The Pods
>Silent King
>Mediocre
Are you trolling?

Also, you misunderstand, I didn't say it was good, I said specifically that it wasn't good early earlier, it just has some interesting elements that make it not as bad as some later episodes of Adventure time.

Also comparing Bad Little Boy to Twilight is the biggest reach I've ever seen.
Not to mention every fault you've pointed out in Bad Little Boy exist in Fionna and Cake.

>>93129753
>Early AT
>Not Incredible
Shit Opinion

>>93129917
Different Strokes

>>93130103
Take off the nostalgia googles, nigga.

>>93129788
>>93129804
They actually did this a lot in later AT and it was really fucking pretentious.

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>>93130140
>Nostalgia
>Wasn't even young when AT started

Nice meme. But that's not an argument.

>>93130172
It's only pretentious depending on how they execute it. I hated the Gunther thing because it was so obvious they pulled it out of their ass but in other situations they're able to work stuff in with older lore in ways that are a lot better.

>>93130204
>You have to be young to feel nostalgia
Retard statement checks out, as always.

>>93130140
Remove your sense of childlike wonder, junior.

>>93130031
Yeah, for season 2 standards those episodes are very mediocre. Nothing that memorable or interesting in them, most of season 2 is leagues above them.
You're gonna sit there and tell me those two were good and Susan Strong wasn't? You're a weird one.

And it's not that hard to compare the two. Sexy vampire guy, regular human girl, I never watched Twilight so that's all I know about it but still.

Fionna and Cake gains more points than BLB because only the concept itself was pandering, not the entire episode, it was a great thing to do as a one off for novelty and the ending was really funny. BLB doesn't have much going for it in comparison.

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>>93130232
>Anything you currently like that you've watched in the past is nostalgia
Do they let you eat soup without water wings?

>>93130328
>faggot in the internet thinks something good that came out 7 years ago it's fucking incredible
You can keep pretending all you want, AT came out in a time were good cartoons were nowhere to be found and it got mainstream fast, that's it, it wasn't ground breaking aside from being the only good cartoon in a while.

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How long have you been on the train?

>>93130204
>>93130245
>gets mad about him not making an argument
>doesn't make an argument
I haven't watched the show enough to form an opinion but come on guys

>>93130293
Did you even listen to Prince Bubblegum(Ice Queen technically) sing to Fionna, but that wasn't pandering? Are you joking?

Also being a vampire and human does not make Twilight, there was so much more wrong with those fucking movies than just a human dating a vampire. It's like comparing teletubbies and game of thrones because they both were filmed with a camera.

>>93130492
I actually came to /co/ because of the season 3 finale. Hard to believe it's been 5 years, even harder to believe that I still really love this show.

>>93130409
>>faggot in the internet thinks something good that came out 7 years ago it's fucking incredible
English motherfucker, do you speak it?

What part of what you just said makes the cartoon bad? How does the state of western animation have to do with the quality of ONE SPECIFIC SHOW?

And, a show doesn't have to be ground breaking to be incredible. Groundbreaking just means being new or innovative, but doing a classic idea incredibly well can be just as valuable.

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>>93130498
>Guys, why aren't you responding to random dumbasses seriously?

>>93130701
>I said it was bad

Do you know how to read?

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>>93130593

I remember talking about the pilot here when it aired on Nicktoons.

God, help me.

>>93120450
>How can one man have such shit taste?
One could also ask how one man can have such needless spite for a silly cartoon.

>>93130577
Yeah I guess that song is pretty pander-ey too actually. But it was also used by Ice Queen to lower Fionna's guard and make the reveal more shocking to her, it wasn't just "Gumball is a dreamboat" which is what Marshall's songs seemed more like.

And that's a real stupid statement, I just picked out a much more specific simularity they have, it's more like comparing Teletubbies with Sesame Street because they're both shows for small children that feature people in costumes.

>>93130766
Tell me your wisdom, ancient one. Was /co/ really love?

>>93130805
Teletubbies and Sesame Street are two incredibly different shows too....

But the camera analogy is far more proportionate to the comparison you were making.

Teletubbies and Sesame Street at least appeal to the same age demographic.

>>93130964
Twilight and that episode were both squarely aimed at the teenage girl demographic guy.

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>>93130843

/co/ was love and then some.

Moot was in his prime. Couldn't swing a cat without smacking an eager drawfag. Comic recommendation graphics were up to date and plentiful. We had real board culture back then. Community work shopped OC's, flying cities and underground lairs. Storytimes flowed like waterfalls. No generals, no captchas and nobody knew what waifu meant.

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>Rewatching Bad little boy
>Ice King didn't believe in Gob
>Bad guy scientist turned wizard was an atheist all along
>Behaves completely unethically and has no moral compass
>Can't find love
Is this the most accurate portrayal of an atheist in recent cartoons?

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>>93131651
Bad Little Boy is definitely worth being considered a good episode, I almost forgot how fun this show can be when it isn't taken itself really seriously like in the recent miniseries.

>>93131651
Simon is a kind-hearted soul. Probably the most ethical character in the show. It's not his fault he went crazy.

>>93131651
the most accurate part is that as soon as he sees a sign that Glob might be real he immediately breaks down and starts begging for forgiveness
AT is real red-pilled to depict athiests as the cowards they really are

>>93129753
they were though. early AT is pure happiness and freedom in cartoon form. with killer music.

>>93132423
Christcucks please leave.

>>93132516
this is a Christian board my lily-livered friend

>>93132556
I'm not your friend, buddy.

>>93132636
you ain't trapping me with this charade again you fornicator, I've learned since last time
this conversation is over

>>93132667
Good. This board is comics and cartoons.

>>93131520
What a beautiful image but, nothing last forever

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Why was Marshall Lee more like Marceline than Marceline has been since then.

>>93132877
She was exaggerating her negative character traits because she's emo or whatever
Could be read as a commentary on her and Finn's relationship where she feels like she's unworthy of being his friend and the faith he has that she's a good person or something

>>93132877
Good writers replaced by hacks like (((Sugar)))

>>93132925
She took his house and made him homeless for what seemed like days, and took his dog and tried to drain it of its blood, she spent an entire episode forcing him to compromise on his morals and do things that seemed to be outside of his hero compass just to fuck with him, that wasn't an exaggeration.

Also, Marshall Lee was clearly not just made of her negative personality traits, he contained her positive traits too. He behaves like Marceline was shown to behave before Nu-AT got to her.

>>93133083
Yeah but that was before she was actually Finn's friend. Marshall is much more of a dick because the episode established that he was already buddies with Fionna yet he still acts like a huge asshole to her and even makes her think he died. The worst thing Marceline did to Finn after they were friends was prank him.
She did play up her asshole traits in the story.

>>93122919
I respect that not everyone likes AT and there are plenty of reasons to criticise it, but this guy comes across as Sugar's biggest brown-noser, so it's hard for me to take him seriously.

>>93118141
But why does a magical crown created to grant the wearer's (not even multiple ones, just the first) deepest wish make copies of its multiple wearers throught the years?

>>93133796
It's magic (or science? magic powered by science? who knows anymore) nigga, they don't gotta explain shit

>>93123312
>By playfully pointing out like 3 flaws of the series
Nigga what
He pointed out the major flaws the series has (all character development being done through signing and/or crying, wworldbuilding a fucking fat shit, lots of characters a fucking fat shit) in a comedic manner, just as he did with AT.

>>93123188
>SU
>better than AT
You taste is shit, and you should feel shit.

>>93135167
SU is objectively better than AT. AT is more iconic though (because it appeals to normalfags)

>>93116413
what >>93127233 said
the Simon in the crown is merely an imprint of Simon's original personality

>>93118357
The best part is, this schedule is actually more diverse than in used to be not too long ago

>>93136057
SU is okay for the first season, but the quality drops like a lead balloon after that. It has certainly not reached the heights that AT has, and nowhere near as consistent IMO.

>>93136161
SU only got better as it went on, with the only quality drop so far being the first half of season 4.

>>93136057
Even as someone who does not hate SU, I have to say that AT is better

The world building is better, and the fluff episodes are actually fun and can stand on its own

When AT is not advancing the main plot, it still delivers some fun one-off adventures, when SU is not advancing the main plot, you are stuck in Beach city solving the same old personal drama of the same old handful of background characters (cause that's what they are for the purposes of the main plot)

>>93136169
Only if you care for teen drama tho

>>93136184
That's the thing. Most post season1 SU episodes are plot related, and post season1 SU is good only when it is plot related. AT, whether plot or not, rarely manages to be good, having higher chances with standalone episodes.

>>93136169
I feel the opposite is true. S2 had its moments, but s3 was pretty meh and s4 was plain bad. I only watch out of habit at this point.

>>93136221
I'd rather watch any AT episode trhan a post season 1 SU filler episode
And due to the way SU is being aired, we are sometimes stuck with only filler episodes for months

SU COULD be better than AT, if the filler episodes were more like they used to be back in season 1, but they are not, and that just drags the whole overal quality of the show overall
The worst AT episode is still an above average SU filler episode, and when AT gets good, then it gets REALLY good

>>93133796
Narrative convenience.

>>93136266
your fault for actually following it on the network

>>93118357
>TTG 20 times
>Gumball ~20 times
who is sucking their dick

>>93133796
It is sufficiently advanced elemental technology.

... I'm still not sure how or why candy is an element... Though, there is that theory of it being the four humors.

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>>93136368
>who is sucking their dick

any doubts?

>>93116413

The entire Simon imprisoned story arc sickens me...

Simon is trapped within the crown, but it isn't at all inhospitable inside the crown. It's like a bloody holiday resort populated by the previous owners of the crown. Not to mention that Betty's brain clone is in there with him...

The writers completely fucked up what could have been an interesting, sobering plotline in every way conceivable...

Simon isn't in a state of duress due to being imprisoned within the crown, there is no impetus for him to attempt to escape it, and even if he were to break free Simon being in Ooo won't actually accomplish anything of any particular note. So essentially what I am trying to get at is that this entire arc was literally nothing...

>>93118357
geez i'm sorry fo CN that's sound awfull i hope they change the director soon

>>93132029
>Elements
>serious

Lol, no. Kinda pretentious and overly self aware, yes, but serious no.

>>93136495
So just like any Adventure Time episode then.