https://moviepilot.com/p/spider-man -homecoming-spoilers-lea

>>93092922
You know what, I just don't even give a shit any more. They can pull whatever stupid-ass "surprise" characters they want, it won't change the fact that every time they do it just ends up ruining the movie, and this isn't going to be any different.

>>93092922
As long as she ain't MJ, I'm okay.

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>>93092922
I don't know why this makes me mad, but it does.

THANK FUCK! Please say she gets killed in an accident that'll drive Toomes into a homicidal rage.

>Mary Jane is Vulture's daughter
What do you think about this?

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She's cute in the comics

>>93092922
>Raimi won in the end
Is this pottery?

>>93093136
Poofy shoulders.

>>93092922
keep it in one thread you nigger

>>93092922
So if Toomes is basically Norman, does that make Zenyada's character Harry?

Why the fuck would Zendaya sign up to be a character that'll probably gone after 1 movie? She could have waited for a bigger role, whatever.

>>93093157
Nah, Raimi wanted the Vulture's daughter to be Felicia Hardy. Who would also become the Vulture.

>>93093935
Who says she's gone after one film? For all we know, she's set up for a bigger villain.

>>93093935
Maybe Toomes dies at the end of the movie, """killed by Spider-Man""" and she becomes Rule 63 Harry Osborn - Vulture Edition and becomes Vulture Jr. in the sequel that will never happen because Sony's going to reboot Spider-Man a third time

>>93094231

No, that was cleared when Rami's storyboards for 4 leaked. He wanted Anne Hathaway to be Black Cat. The Vulturess rumors were just that, rumors. Malkovich as vulture.

Doesn't Vulture have a daughter in some continuity that ends up becoming a female Vulture? I could have sworn I remember seeing that before or maybe it was just a rumor?

Kid Vulture could be cool, Zendaya as a villain seems weird though.

Who gives a fuck at this point

>>93093030
You are a stupid bitch.

>>93092981
>it won't change the fact that every time they do it just ends up ruining the movie,
how is it ruining the movie?

>>93094436
>Anne Hathaway to be Black Cat
oh my dick

>>93093157
Raimi's Spider-Man was a beta who spent 2/3 of his film series being cucked and couldn't even hold his relationship together in the last 1/3.

>>93092922
All those fuckin' faggots claiming she would be MJ. Goddamn gullible idiots.

>>93092922
>Theyre actually doing Vultress from Spiderman 4
The madmen

Buy for real shell just be miles first love interest under a new name. Just like how Ned is Ganke under a new name

>>93094963
>This is my daughter, Michelle Jane Toomes!
No anon, YOU are deluded. She is MJ.

>>93094686
This. Fuck Raimi's films. They took a gargantuan shit on Peter and his entire supporting cast.

>>93095023
Kek. Cry harder, faggot.

Vulture confirmed for not dying

the tone would be so fucked

>>93093238
Just realized they wasted Kiton on fucking vulture
what a shame

>>93095066
Why would I be crying if I'm right? She's MJ. It's just misdirection.

>>93092922
Who cares now?
They literally spoiled whole movie in trailers
even if its 10\10 im not gonna see it in cinema

>>93095167
>Babby's First Iron Man , with no punches allowed because they don't want to scare the little ones.
>having any chance of being anything resembling good.
You're dodging a dumpster fire here.

>>93095217
Civil War was somehow considered great, so im not sure about anyging anymore

>>93092922
History trivia:

When the Washington Monument was created, the very top was crafted from aluminum. While relatively cheap now, at the time of construction, the modern methods of extracting aluminum from bauxite had not yet been invented, and thus it was one of the most valuable metals available.

Spiderman himself was not added to the monument until sometime after 1903.

>>93095297
This one has nothing going for it though. RDJ's co-star Holland is a bad actor. He can't possibly handle a leading role, and I doubt RDJ will be enough to carry him through the movie no matter how hard he tries.

Vulture is kill

>>93095396
Damn and I like Keaton too. All we can do is hope he takes Iron Man's sidekick with him.

>>93095436
yeah, Stark kills Toomes

>>93095453
>you're welcome, Peter!

>>93095453
>>93095472

Based Tony don't send a boy to do a MAN's job.

>>93095543
Tony kills the Vulture as he's flying away

>>93094686
>Peter being cucked
>He literally gets the girl at the end of SM1 and dismisses her

Mhh how about no?

>>93095046
Yes, its called Peter luck. The support cast was top notch. Aunt May, Ben might as well be the definitive version of those characters. Flash was great too even if underused. Harry was great. The villains were all great excluding Venom, and if we think of Venom as an alternative not muh comic version, he is quite good too.

>>93093086
Because like your pic, you're a retarded ape

>>93095595
>Peter takes hours just getting his ass pounded by the Vulture
>Tony takes him out under two minutes, so fast it gives Peter whiplash.
Can anyone even compete with Master Stark?

>>93095453
If Stark just shoots Vulture in the head, I will stand up and clap.

>>93095634
>if we think of Venom as an alternative not muh comic version, he is quite good too.
I like Raimi too, but no. Venom was unsalvageable. He kept peeling his Venom face away to chatter. Topher Grace didn't come off as all that intimidating.

>>93095664
that's literally what happens

>>93095840
Why did anyone want Spiderboy in the MCU again? He's totally useless. lol

>>93095453
prove it nigger

>>93092922
Hm, that's...interesting? I guess there is a conflict now that Spidey presumably causes the death of her father. It's like a Captain Stacy sort of deal.

>>93093030
Same
>>93094530
?

>>93096026
see
>>93095595
>>93095453

>>93094474
I highly doubt she'll become a villain, mainly because right now it looks like that character arc will feel laughable. Imagine Zendaya putting on some wings and trying to be a menacing villain.

>>93096078
Don't you get it anon Spiderman is a FUNNY character. They WANT her to be laughable because they want it to be a John Hughes style FUNNY movie.

>>93095396
no

>>93096078
Silly, anon, reports says that 86% of millennials would wish for the power of flying and combined with the current trend of multiculturalism is expected to bring another billion to the potentially 2 billion Sinister Six two parter.

>>93095676
I would laugh so hard if the film gets horrendously dark after that.

>>93096135
16 Candles John Hughes?

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>>93095014
>Ned is Ganke under a new name
>new name

>>93096172
yeah, tony shoots him in the back as he flys away and he falls to his death

>>93096298
>It's a billionaires killing working class americans episode.

>>93094436
Early drafts had her as the Vulturess, later drafts had her as Black Cat, but all of them featured Felicia as Toomes' adoptive daughter.

>>93096298
>>Vulture dies
>>Peter and Tony high five.
>>Zendaya starts to cry
>>All characters begin to dance to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0K8uYEZWw

>>93096359
Raimi does it again!

>>93096384
you're not wrong, vulture's death is kinda played for laughs

>>93095351
Underrated post.

>>93096424
I'm sorry, but I find that extremely unlikely. The villain deaths in the MCU have never really been treated like jokes (outside Taserface). And if this character is the Vulture's kid, I would find it extremely tone deaf to kill him off as a joke.

>>93094474
That was Blackies daughter, in the MC2 I think? Raptor or something

>>93096548
The whole movie is tonedeaf. It'll fit right in.

>>93096548
You're getting worked, mark.

Has the rest of the novel been leaked yet

>>93093136
Looks like a character from Darkest Dungeons.

>>93096571
What else is tone deaf?

>>93094436
>Anne Hathaway to be Black Cat
>Ends up as Catwoman

POETRY

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>>93096549
uhf

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>>93093030
This

>>93092922
>everyone is wrong
No, fuck you. They said over a year ago multiple times, she's not MJ.

Its not my fault the majority of this board is full of retards.

>>93096218
>reports says that 86% of millennials would wish for the power of flying
flying is such a shit tier power on it's own.
If you can only pick one, shapeshifting is highest tier

>>93096689
Too bland looking to be MJ.

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Don't worry guys, video james will save us,

>>93096726
It was a joke, anon. And if anything mind control is the highest tier.
Shapeshifting will do shit to you if you have the social skills of a 30 year old virgin NEET.

>>93096751
I'm not a sociopath, so mind control would make me feel too guilty.

>>93096731
At this point, I've made peace with the fact everything with Spider-Man in it will be shitty. However, the only thing that might still have a chance is this game.
I hope it's really good. the video games are the last thing before I swear off Spidey completely.

How exactly is Zendaya Michael Keaton's daughter?

>>93096896
Stuck his dick in a black woman at some point obviously.

>>93096813
... But impersonating other people to get advantage of the world does not?
You've got yourself some dubious morals, my man.

And you don't have to be a sociopath to make use of mind control.
>be in line for the bank
>see worker lazying around
>suggest him to start working his ass
>someone comes to rob it/shoot it/whatever
>make the robber shoot his own leg and call the police
Of course it's easy to do bad with that kind of power but so is with any of them.

>>93096896
Zendaya is half white/half black in real life. It's not rocket science buddy.

>>93096896
>movie with an old man with giant wings who flies, a kid who can crawl through walls and also has super strength and a super genius billionaire who made up a battle armor out of a box of scraps in the desert
>b-but why she back tho?

>>93096964
>... But impersonating other people to get advantage of the world does not?
I wouldn't do that either. Shapeshifting has a lot of functions outside of imitating someone's appearance or manipulating people. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Shapeshifting

I wouldn't want to strictly be a hero either, I just want to fuck around and do cool shit.

>>93097018
the only place Holland-man is crawling to is back into his crib, while Papa Tony stops the bad birdman.

If the junior novelization of the movie is out, can somebody post info about the movie, please?

>>93096298
>>Loki kills many and causes an alien invasion
>>Still alive.
>>Vulture tries to rob the Avengers.
>>Killed.

>>93097036
Well, so do I with my mind control. I don't see how that's sociopathic at all.

> I just want to fuck around and do cool shit.
Like what?

>>93097052
S-Sorry anon I actually meant "black" not back.

>>93097049
>can't afford to fund his grandchilds cancer treatments
>can get himself new armor

>>93097114
>loki is a literal god (alien) whose super powered brother still cares about him and was present at the moment of his defeat
>vulture is an old man with a nigger daughter

>>93097192
Could be on loan. But that makes good material for Spidey banter still.

>>93096298
Does Peter try to save him?

>>93097241
he wishes he was in a good enough state to banter, Felicia had to come save him

>>93097258
nope, just lets him fall. Then tony cracks a joke

>>93097140
Turn into whatever I want and have fun? shapeshift wings/into a bird if I want to fly, dabble around in superheroing if I feel like it, improve my body's performance through experimentation overtime, etc.

The thing about mind control is you need to use other people, and you can severely fuck up other people's lives in the process. You're your own man with shapeshifting.

>>93097211
Also, Iron man put him out of business as well, so it's more Iron Man's fault.

>>93097300
>Turn into whatever I want
Careful with the identity crisis.

>>93097286
>>93097258
bullshit. i call fucking bullshit

this is what causes Spidey to stop hanging out with Tony I guarantee it

>>93097286
That seems really out of character for someone as guilt-ridden as Peter.

I'm not expecting the movie to be good anymore but I think it'll cause massive waves of butthurt once the hundreds of millions come and the reviews praise it as above average.

You guys are shitposting and baiting too much. You're setting yourself up to get angry at its success

I'll be honest, /co/. I am sure op is bullshitting. But I genuinely think it'd be a cool twist.

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>thinking a movie where they have Spidey use a new form of fighting that's more kid-friendly has Iron Man ice the father of Spidey's friend

>>93097414
do you only browse 4chan for news?

>>93097381
Haven'ty you learned the cycle.
>Movie is announced.
>"lol, they're making a movie out of THAT? Incoming flop."

>Director is announced.
>"lol, what a studio-whipped hack, his style is terrible, movie is doomed."

>Cast is announced.
>"Literally meme actors and paycheck grabbers. Art is dead."

>First pictures come out.
>"Looks like shit, it's like a TV show, too much filters, too fun/too grimdark, the capeshit bubble will burst."

>First trailer comes out.
>"SHIT FUCK ASS CUNT SUCK IT'S HORRIBLE I HATE YOU *INSERT STUDIO, DIRECTOR, CAST AND/OR CHARACTER*"

>More pics and trailers come out.
>"Hmn... That actually didn't look that bad. Maybe it's going to be cool."

>Critics get in, generally positive.
>"Alright, I'm getting a little hyped here. Might be good..."

>Movie comes out.
>"BEST MOVIE EVER, 10/10 *INSERT STUDIO* DID IT AGAIN, *INSERT DIRECTOR* IS A GENIOUS, *INSERT ACTOR/ACTRESS* IS MY HUSBANDU/WAIFU*"

>DVD comes out.
>"Still pretty cool, but you know, I didn't like this, and this was stupid, and let's not even mention this..."

>At about six months later.
>"Shit movie, I always hated it, critics were bribed, box office was forged, everyone who likes is a sheep. The world is stupid, except for me."
RINSE AND REPEAT.

Remind me to peruse the local Walmart to find a junior novelization. I found one for Beauty and the Beast before it was in theaters.

>>93097469
So the movie was bad to start with.

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>>93096298
>>93097258
>>93097286
This sounds insanely fake.

>>93096726
Please. The best power is unlimited teleportation and you can't tell me otherwise.

>implying Tony killing Vulture wouldn't be the perfect catalyst for Spidey losing faith in him and going back to his old ways

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>>93097448
I don't understand how that's a response to what I said.

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>>93097498
How can I remind you?

>>93097544
>teleport
>get shot

nice one

>>93097544
time stop

>>93097552
nah, he stays friends with tony. Like, Tony kills the vulture, makes a joke, and the scene ends.

So is she basically just a female Harry? Not a bad plot setup for the next couple films honestly.

Plus I get to laugh at all the people assblasted that they didn't actually cast a black MJ

>>93097560
By being yourself, sticking true to your convictions, and posting Taylor Swift pictures.

>>93097570
Teleport right to the hospital

>>93097300
>The thing about mind control is you need to use other people, and you can severely fuck up other people's lives in the process
Only if you go full Maximus on them. Slightly suggesting a clerk to be more nice, lift the mood of someone you care about a little, make the smelly merchant actually tell the truth about the product you're about to buy, make yourself stop procrastinating and get to work already. I don't see how that fucks up lives forever.
But of course if I go heroing around I wouldn't care less of what happens to the psyche of the nigger that's trying to rape a girl.

So, with the fact that we're goody-two-shoes responsible people with our powers it comes down to usefulness and certainly if I get a shot at powers I wouldn't waste it to become a fucking bird. And how does that work anyways? OK You become one now what? don't you have to master the ability to fly? get used to to your new body? learn to deal with wind, etc? Sounds like a hassle.

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>>93097583

>>93097595
that doesn't sound fun at all, what's the point?

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I will actually drop the MCU if they have Tony murder Vulture and he gets away with it. It's all bullshit from the "leaker" here but it has a chance of happening.

>>93097660
An easier life.

>>93097660
he seems like a real stick in the mud desu

>>93097570
>Teleport out of any situation that might be remotely dangerous
Please

>>93097696
>get literally stabbed in the back
Teleport that one out, faggot.

>>93097687

Do you REALLY think they are going to have Iron Man kill the first villain of the first Spider-Man MCU tie in?

Are you really that fucking retarded?

>>93097764
>Going anywhere/doing anything that would even put me in that situation

>>93097691
I'm a simple dude with simple needs.

But of course there's always the DELETE option.

>>93097766
yes, because he's too expensive

>>93097766
He does though.

>>93097794
Just wanted to point out you're no immune to damage.
>use your power in public
>make the news
>be hunted by every single agency in the world
Hope you like the runaway life.

no one pays attention to me anyway so if I could teleport would it really make any difference?

>>93097933
DA OC tier backstory, m8.

>>93097990
no retard, do you honestly eye everyone you see on the street? would you notice if you blinked and one was gone? would you care for more than a few seconds

>>93094584
She doesn't have the tits. Catwoman suits her better. Dat waist!

>>93098004
>stranger #12545457 didn't paid attention to me
>nobody cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wew lad.

>>93095676
Right in front of his "daughter". Who, it turns out, the vulture adopted after her father was killed while being forced to drive a tank for the Ten Rings in the first movie. By TONY STARK!!!!

>You've killed my father again, Stark. I will have my revenge!!

>>93098043
>doubling down
yikes

>Vulture puts civilians in mortal peril
>Only way to save them is to kill him
>Peter can't make the choice
>Tony flies in and kills Vulture to free him of the moral crisis
>"Pete, these are the kind of calls you have to make if you want to be a hero; with great power comes great responsibility"

>>93099135
We already got that speech from peter himself. It'd ve redundant to repeat it.

>>93099135
Iron man or not, I'll be very pissed if the speech is about killing people to save more people. it's the most unSpider-man thing possible to be associated with the phrase.

>>93096052
It was confirmed she wasn't from the beginning. If you thought she was you are a stupid bitch

>>93093030

Fucking this.

>>93093223
What's wrong with that? It doesn't sound like a problem to me. I don't know.

>>93099455
Oh please, people lie about movie plots to keep them secret literally all the time.

>>93092922
>as the junior novelization is out
Don't novelizations end up having a lot of differences with the movies due to using early version of the script?

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>>93097580
This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azesI46Vds4

Thread theme.

>>93097469
and saved

>>93098004
If there's a security camera and a person suddenly disappeared in thin air, they may call the MiB....

Congrats on the Iron Man 6, Feige

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>>93099669
>tfw you'll never be a pervert with time manipulation abilities

>>93093030
seriously this

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>>93096731
>video james

>>93092922
>fucking your new arch enemy's daughter
lewd.

>>93096978
wait isn't she playing MJ?

>>93101379
No...where the fuck did you get that? /co/?

Reddit says this is fake

>>93096078
>>93094474
In Spider-girl yeah but shes a good guy so

>>93096964
I wouldn't impersonate people, I'd just make myself taller, more handsome, larger dong, and keep my hair at bay so I wouldn't have to pay for haircuts or shave better, heck I could probably get rid of my acne too.

>>93093030
include me in the screencap

>>93092922
bump

Peter meets MJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ec-oyB8a4

>>93095932
a properly done Spidey could take down everyone in the MCU barring Loki and Thor, find a way to make him Other Spidey and we're reaching opplsnerf status

>>93102691
link