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>begin a universe-wide genocide targeting organics, killing

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>begin a universe-wide genocide targeting organics, killing everything that might get in the way. Trillions of lifeforms now extinct.
>this wages on for 4 million years
>he gets completely away with it, never suffers for his crimes, and has a happy ending
Is this okay, /co/?
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>>93087854
He's put through a fucking wringer post-conversion. Humiliated, stepped on, betrayed, losing his way, losing his friends, being in charge of a mission that has no foreseeable end and is surrounded by people that hate his guts while thinking he deserves some sort of comeuppance.

He's an old man who's lived too long.

He knows he should be dead by now.

God, IDW is so good at making me like him.
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>>93087854
>he gets completely away with it, never suffers for his crimes, and has a happy ending

Not really. He was all set to pay for his sins, but Starscream had to be a little bitch so everything post Dark Cybertron has been Megatron flipping his old lieutenant one last giant middle finger.
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>>93087891
I agree with everything else but,
>betrayed
BY WHOM?
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>>93087917
To be completely fair, anyone would let the Galaxy burn before they would let Starscream have the opportunity to be smug.
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>>93087925
His Knights of Cybertron classroom was part of the mutiny.
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To be fair, he was forced into the happy megop fanfic universe by Magnus and Terminus.

He'll be back in a few arcs when Ijro realises he can't sell Lug/Anode shit and people don't like angry brat Rodimus. Also, the whole point of the mutiny is moot without Megatron being there.
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>>93087966
Hmm.
It's not like he really had a bond with them though. Someone like Soundwave declaring he despises Megatron would probably sting a lot more, luckily Megs wasn't around to hear that.
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>this smug face
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>>93088009
When did he say that? I probably missed it, given how I tend to sort of scroll through the Optimus comics recently.
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>>93088017
>You now remember the cross-epoch vox Megatron had with Orion.

Fuck Naruto and Sasuke. This is what a tragic friendship looks like.
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>>93088030
Right at the end of Dark Cybertron. Soundwave had the same face the Cleveland fans did when LeBron took his 3-5 ass to South Beach.
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>>93088030
Soundwave never SAID he despises Megatron but he did make it very clear how asspained he was about Megs turning Autobot. When Soundwave arrived back on Earth he declared Megatron as one of his enemies lumping him along with the rest of the Autobots. He also sent Ravage to kill Megs if he truly was an Autobot. Luckily, Ravage has a soft spot for Megatron.
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>>93088088
Don't you dare post that page, you shitter.
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>>93088062
>tfw in Miami
>tfw Lebron left us and we can't win in straight rows anymore
>tfw you can't wear the Lebron jersey in South beach anymore or risk getting shanked
Also that comparison killed me anon. Thank you.
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>>93088039
>the phonecall between megatron and orion where he tries to explain how he had been at least partially shadowplayed by trepan and would eventually join him
>optimus spends the next millions of years of war hoping his friend will join him and always avoids killing him outright because of something megatron hasn't even done yet
>eventually megatron turns himself in after optimus breaks down and tries to strangle him fruitlessly

Megatron and Optimus Prime will always be a true tragic romance/friendship/whatever it is they have. Which is why it feels off for him to now be stuck in a universe without his Optimus Prime in it.


>Rodimus when he has to explain to Optimus he lost Megatron somewhere in the multiverse
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>>93088088
>a short time later, Soundwave pledges loyalty to autobot Optimus Prime anyway
He truly is the biggest Megatron fan.
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>>93087998
>Ijro realises he can't sell Lug/Anode shit and people don't like angry brat Rodimus

Lug/Anode suck but Angry Rodimus honestly shows potential, granted he'll squander it but let's wait and see.

as for the mutiny, I think it might make things easier on their end getting back to the ship without Megatron since the mutineers hated Megatron most.
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>>93088184
Optimus swooned him like he did Megatron
God help Starscream if Prime wants to make him his bitch too
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>>93088152
>>the phonecall between megatron and orion where he tries to explain how he had been at least partially shadowplayed by trepan and would eventually join him
>>optimus spends the next millions of years of war hoping his friend will join him and always avoids killing him outright because of something megatron hasn't even done yet
>>eventually megatron turns himself in after optimus breaks down and tries to strangle him fruitlessly
>Megatron and Optimus Prime will always be a true tragic romance/friendship/whatever it is they have. Which is why it feels off for him to now be stuck in a universe without his Optimus Prime in it.

Oh fuck, that's right. That explains why Optimus gave him the second chance, the one day I'll join your side thing from way back.
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>>93087854
Sure, remember when we let Hitler off the hook.
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>>93088184
Soundwave pledged loyalty to Optimus because he believes Optimus is a true prime. That and Optimus killed Galvatron which probably scored Optimus some points in the Soundbowl.

The actual reason though? Clearly Soundwave has a fetish for men in power and probably likes being ordered around and dominated. Either that or Stockholm syndrome.
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>>93088184
>>93088274
Also fucking Optimus Blackmail Prime. Loved how he cut Soundwave down to size with that.
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>>93088271
The concept of angry Rodimus making shitty choices is good,but he's always making shitty choices anyway. Nobody expects anything serious to come of it any more.

Also the entire reason for the mutiny was based around Megatron, so it takes alot of the potential drama/storylines away from the mutiny already if he's conveniently been put on a bus. And it takes away from Rodimus, too, if he doesn't have a foil to bounce off of. Magnus seems more like he's damage controlling Roddy and Drift is just casually along for the ride.
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Never forget how bald Soundwave is.
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>>93088342

CURSED IMAGE
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>>93088322
>>93088327
Say no to this Anons, come on
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>>93088330
>Nobody expects anything serious to come of it any more.

what if it gets someone killed though, like Rodimus does an order that's too dangerous and risky, someone like say Tailgate does it, gets killed.

Then what?

This could truly be the wake up call.

think about if Tailgate (the guy Getaway & Atomizer set up as a sacrificial lamb to get Megatron off the ship) died at Rodimus's hands, it'd be that oh shit what have i done moment.

plus Tailgate is kind of annoying these days, if he died, it'd also mean Cyclonus would lose his shit.
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>>93088363
Nobody has been able to resist it save for Pyra Magna but clearly she's insane so it all adds up.
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>>93088413
Saying no made her crazy
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>>93088407
Nah, Tailgate's death would be way too unpopular. Also he seems to have some unresolved magical girl powers to deal with. Cyclonus getting killed, though...
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>>93088428
Is that why Prowl finally hit rock bottom too? I'm starting to see a pattern here.
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>>93088274
> the adventures of Optimus Prime and his loyal ex-con harem
> with Starscream
Fund it right now.
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Reminder.

>tfw Cosmos is now taking care of Soundwaves casette kids while he fucks off to places with Optimus
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>Rodimus gets Cyclonus killed by being an angry bitch
>Tailgate snaps and beats the shit out of Rodimus and kills half the crew, mutineers and all
>including Lug

>Megatron returns through some shenanigans
>walks in on the remains of the crew trying to contain a berserk tailgate
>Nevermind
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>>93088494
>Tailgate killing Lug
Please. Also Anode while he's at it.
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>>93088437
>Nah, Tailgate's death would be way too unpopular.

I think it'd should real consequences, a bot who never saw the war time, only lived in peace time, one of the "pure innocent" characters left being killed off like a senseless death would be heartbreaking and I know a few people who'd probably would be fine with this.
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>>93088573

also not only that, it'd make Rodimus realize he was no better than Getaway who tried to use Tailgate for selfish purposes.
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>>93088462
I'd read it.
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>tfw no Megatron and Optimus's autobot honeymoon adventure book
>we will never get to see the new dynamic between a more brutal Optimus and a pacifistic Megatron working together
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>>93088589
>Rodimus goes the Anakin route and becomes the antagonist
WEW.
But really could you imagine? He already has the shattered glass colors.
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>>93088455
Prowl hit rock bottom because his alt mode is a cop car in this decade:

https://youtu.be/sg0D1PpgCXs?t=160
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>>93088302
I never even realized this until now. Damn.
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>>93088668
Decepticon lives matter, pig.
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>>93088713
I'm uncomfortable now.

That being said, Shockwaves would probably be even bigger than that.
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>>93088589
>>93088640

well I doubt he'd go beyond this, it'd be the low point for the character in his journey but this would be what would make him either do one of two things either become a real leader or relinquish that spot to someone else.
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>>93088749
I forgot the picture.
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>>93088713
Transformer lives don't matter
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>>93087854
>Rodimus gets punished more by the narrative for his mistakes than space hitler
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>>93088973
>tfw it hasn't even been his fault once
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>>93088973
>space hitler
Megatron is probably closer to a space Che Guevara. A revolutionary who's war killed many innocents but ends up idolised and loved anyway.

There are probably mechs who have never faced war back on Cybertron who get Megatron-style detailing.
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>>93089056
Being Rodimus is suffering.
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>>93088767
>look mom, I posted it again!
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>>93087854
did they forgot they're supposed to find the knights of cybertron so THEY will be the ones to judge and punish megatron?

or they just dropped it because he's proven that he's changed now?
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>>93089112
didn't megatron preach things about being anti-organic?

something that Tarn reminded to Deathsaurus' army when he presented nickel (sole survivor of a colony destroyed by organic aliens)?
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>>93089148
Oh come on this image is not posted enough to give me such a sarcastic remark.
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>>93089156
Well, the Lost Light was already looking for the Knights of Cybertron. Guess they'll just ditch the trial part. I can't wait to see Primes reaction to Megs "escape".
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>>93087854
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>>93089112
No Megatron was definitely space Hitler. His whole goal was to technoform everything and eradicate all the organics. He was anot extreme techno supremacist.
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>>93089148
I bet you are a meatbag-loving weakling that doesn't want to fondle Shockwave's breastplate.
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>>93089205
i meant the knights will be the ones to hold a trial for megatron (some sort of BS about only they can judge him). since the lost light was looking for them...two birds with one stone.

so if megatron's still good and they find the knights, will anyone actually remember to do their secondary objective?
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How come the mass-produced Thrust and Ramjet clones still look like lifeforms if they are piloted weapons?
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>>93089182
He also seemed to legitimately believe organic life was a direct threat to technological life and didn't have anything like emotions (I suppose in the same way a human might believe robots are soulless and only dictated by coding, robot sees a human and thinks it is only directed by chemistry). Which is why he only truly repents after "experiencing" the combined pain he caused to organic life with that nonsense beam.

So I don't think he works as a direct parallel to Hitler. Maybe more Lenin, though.
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>>93088973
>>93089056
>>93089134

Outside of the Overlord thing yeah.

He's always written to be in the wrong every single time even when he's not in the wrong.
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>>93088749
>>93088767
>>93089256
I wish my tits were as big as my husbandos
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>>93087854
he was never targeting organics. he didn't even care about organics. the civil war he started was because he refused to be defined by his alt-mode.
do you know nothing of the functionists?

it's not even a happy ending for him. he's literally back where he started fomenting a rebellion against nearly the exact same group. the only difference is that he's seen where the war led before and can hopefully avoid that this time.
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>>93088342
Delet this
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>>93088455
You either lust for the Prime or you go crazy wanting it but saying no
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>>93089482
He started targeting organics later during the war when he believed they were essentially evil and anti-cybertronian/mech, both as part of expanding territory for cybertronians and for defending cybertron.
Also, the cons needed resources and organics did not want to share, so they just went in and took em.
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>>93088492
>that dialogue
S-Should I catch up on this.
>tfw I stopped reading so far behind I'm still in the early RID portion
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>>93089583
You fool! The Prime will get you too!
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>>93088612
Why must you hurt me like this...
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>>93089597
Oh I wouldn't mind.
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Can i get a must consume list for Transformers media? I'm looking to start on the timeline.
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Is it me or is this thread going as gay for Optimus as Megatron is?
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>>93089583
Yes.
There's also plenty more of Optimus acting super creepy when it comes to Soundwave.
Not related but I just remembered this about Revolution,
>Jazz lost his arm twice and not once does Optimus even show the slightest concern
>Meanwhile Soundwave LITERALLY gets a few scratches and Prime is giving him a shoulder to hold onto and shows concern.
I'm starting to think Optimus has some weird bias for all the main Decepticons with the exception of Starscream.
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>>93089752
Optimus just wants all of Megatron's stuff, since his husbando is out of reach.

Starscream will be next.
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>>93089743
When we're not complaining about Transformers. We're lewding the Transformers.
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>>93089743
Either that or gay for Shockwave
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>>93089793
....My god we are Megatron all along
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>>93089668
There's a useful chronological reading list for IDW Transformers. Someone else should probably dump it in the thread since the one I have is super old and pre-Revolution.
>>93089793
This.
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>>93089777
Prowl must be pissed.
All these Decepticons running around his former boss. The symbol of the Autobot movement. Absolutely disgusting.
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>Be Optimus Prime
>husbando Megatron for millions of years because he once promised to come be at your side
>finally get him to turn to your side and have to be separated from him because everybody believes you're clanging/to make sure he survives
>stick him with your stupid nephew and assume no harm will come to him
>quickly make sure you lock down all his other love interests before he gets back
>Rodimus manages to lose him anyway

So how long until Optimus starts wearing a decepticon badge?
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>>93089777
>them trips
No! Stay back!
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>>93089777
I'd reply to you with that
> you fucked my wife so now I need to fuck you to make her mine again
manga page but I don't have it.
Will somebody help me out?
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>>93089926
>Megatron returns to find Optimus has stolen and fucked his entire harem
Does this sort of thing even have a name?
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Ultra Magnus and Rodimus must be on the fuck-into-submission list by now.

Lost Light finale confirmed for Optimus sex rampage.
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>>93090024
It's almost NTR, except not because Optimus is just fucking everybody to get them out of the way.
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>>93089917
Being Optimus is suffering.
All of his friends are always left stranded in other dimensions.
That being said I don't know what situation Optimus would have to find himself in to consider becoming a Decepticon.
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>>93090071
He does it to make them all his bitches
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>>93090030
I love how this thread has basically declared Optimus as some sex crazed lunatic establishing dominance. This is what happens when you have 3 straight threads of negative screeching. We went from complaining to full blown degenarates.

Im okay with it.
Also,
>It's not even Ultra Magnus but rather Minimus out of the power suit. Brace for pain.
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>>93090071
>cybertron under starscream makes a move against the earth colony movement
>start an all-out war with prime's faction of loyal waifus and zealots
>optimus slowly starts to lose faith in the autobots as his friends at home turn against him
>eventually an autobot team kills Soundwave
>takes up his badge in a parallel of Megatron taking up bumblebee's
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>>93090118
We all may be pissed off about various shitty things within the tf continuity right now, but we can all agree Optimus Prime desperately wants to marry Megatron.
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>>93090120
>Coup on Starscream
This would be wild.
>Soundwave dying
PLEASE NO.
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>>93090024
> Megatron returns to find Optimus has stolen and fucked his entire harem
> but he clearly did for the greater good
> they finally fuck and co-rule the harem together
> harem doesn't have the opportunity or motivation to go on murderous treacherous rampages
> all is well

> Does this sort of thing even have a name?
Best ending.
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>>93090155
I actually feel Megatron has the stronger urge for marriage of the two. Did you see that face when he heard Orions voice over the phone? Megatron knew he could start over on a clean slate and woo Orion the same way he did back in his own universe. Only this time things would work out because they're friends and not trying to slay each other at every given opportunity.
>tfw the Functionist is literally going to be all of Megs dreams come true
>8 months later and the LL return to pick him up
>Rodimus finds Megs living a happy domestic life with Optimus. This disturbs Rodimus.
>Megs doesn't want to leave
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>>93090204
IDW TF was actually just an ecchi harem anime all along.
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>>93090221
But would he prefer the cute and admiring Orion Pax of the functionist world, or his true husband who he has fought and lusted over for millenia?

I believe this would only end in an Orion Pax sandwich once Optimus realised somebody else was holding hands with his husbando. It's acceptable Megatron has wifed his alternate universe self, but only just.

Either way, Rodimus has to watch.
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>>93090221
Well then Megs will just have to marry both Optimuses.
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>>93090299
Rodimus is just pissed he doesn't have a Megatron to lust after
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>>93090299
It's like that game Catherine.
Old, busted true waifu Optimus Prime or Cutie, idealized Orion Pax.
>>93090327
That's a better idea.
>>93090333
Rodimus can at least turn to Drift if anything.
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>>93090333
That's why he's so pissed at losing Megs in the functionist universe. Best waifu, gone.
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>>93090382
Well lets look at the first time Hot Rod met Megatron
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>>93090382
Please tell me there's a pic somewhere of a little Megatron squished between Optimus' big comfy windshields.
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>>93090420
Didn't he almost become a decepticon but pussed out when they killed a spy?
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>>93090429
Can I order the same but with Shockwave?
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>>93090443
Think so and then we have this
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>>93090527
>SHOT THROUGH THE SPARK

I kind of loved how Megatron absolutely did not care about him or really the stolen Matrix, because he was on his way to punch Starscream in the face.
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>>93090577
Now lets look at it this way
Megatron used his cannon to make Hot Rod into a man
For Megatron it was just another Autobot
But for Hot Rod, it turned him into Rodimus
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>>93088342
NOOOOO
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>>93090645
>Megatron used his cannon to make Hot Rod into a man
That's the gayest sentence in this whole thread.
Well done anon.
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>>93090711
Now that I've set the bar, it's up to you to reach it
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Why are we sexualizing giant robots? I mean really guys, there are plenty of other things to corrupt. Arguably better things. Can Cybertronians even take pleasure from physical intimacy?
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>>93090800
>Why are we sexualizing giant robots?
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>>93090800
>Why are we sexualizing giant robots?
Why wouldn't we?

At the very least they clearly derive pleasure from emotional intimacy, considering they get married. I believe various things have been mentioned about native cybertronian animals like turbofoxes being "in heat". There's probably some kind of sex equivalent. Spark merging?
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>>93090845
I'm just so confused anon. I can't imagine modular transforming machines fucking. Scratch that, i can, but it's not pleasent
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>>93090845
Animated Optimus sure was a cute little twink.
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>>93090800
Because robots are cute, anon.
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>>93090893
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>>93090886
> it's not pleasent
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEAUJy6f1E4
"Frankly, I find it repulsive. The whole idea of you fleshies... interfacing... Ew"
Also, from the very same episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChEaL-aq7Nk
"So go on, big M, tell me you love me more than Starscream."
Prime Knockout is fun.
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I still don't like that Megatron was made captain of a privately owned vessel. He was a convicted war criminal on probation. He shouldn't have been given ANY sort of command position. I understand Optimus wanted him off Cybertron and away from mass assassination attempts, but if he's going to get mad at Rodimus for "losing" him after all they've been through that has ended up saving Cybertron over and over...i hope Rodimus is just done with him.
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>>93091300

yeah the only reason he was made co-captain was that Optimus was pissed with Rodimus and everything that went on in Season 1.

If he was just a prisoner in the brig somewhere, I don't think the mutiny would have happened or rather there would be less justification for it.
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>>93091300
One Megatron wasn't convicted. Two the Autobots are still a military force and Optimus is still nominally in charge so he could still dictate to Hot Rodimus via the chain of command.
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>>93091471
I was fine with him teaching a class. There's four million years worth of knowledge he can teach someone. I'm fine with him being a resource that the leadership could rely on. Just not actual command. And Optimus making him captain just to be petty is pretty out of character for him. The broke the matrix thing was okay, but if I remember right he never asked Rodimus to elaborate. Losing half the matrix to save every single constructed cold spark seemed like a good deal to me. Plus everything else they'd achieved at that point. At the very least confirming what a world without Megatron would be like.
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>>93091300
Optimus wanted proof his precious husband was reformed, so he put him in charge of a moving frat party as proof. And if Megatron kills a bunch of B-listers, he probably wouldnt feel so bad.
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>>93091612
It's a PRIVATE vessel. It is owned by an Autobots, Drift, and captained by another Autobots, yes. But it is not a military vessel. Furthermore the matrix isn't an Autobots relic but a cybertronian one. Optimus had no right to command that vessel especially in a post war environment.
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>>93091696
>>93091895

Agreed.

there's a reason I don't like IDW Optimus, this is why.
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>>93091300
Optimus considers captaining the Lost Light to be community service.

He also probably considered it a position of safety for his waifu, as he couldn't guarantee the crew wouldn't just abuse the shit out of him as a prisoner. And Megatron is an efficient commander, and Optimus sees Roddy is pretty inefficient at command and assigns him a teacher he's forced to at least kinda listen to.
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>>93092113
I'm not saying make him a prisoner. He could have been the cabin boy for all I care. Just not command.
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I think I'm more annoyed Megatron STILL hasn't transformed. Then again this is IDW...
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>>93090030
>that pic
>sakamoto did like three issues of mtmte
>never drew nautica
>IDW purposefully assigned a bad artist to Lost Light in order to drive up sales of their shittier but better drawn comics
>now Lost Light's writing has gone to shit too
>Roberets is clearly afraid to end the story or make any significant progress in it
>mfw Lost Light will get canceled looking hideous and reading even worse and Sakamoto will never draw Nautica
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>>93092466
Oh shit, yeah. I'm assuming he's a nice beefy tank, but i'd like to see it.
And maybe since I believe Milne will be drawing at least one further arc on lost Light, we'll get to see it.

>>93092570
Did we ever find the lewds Sakamoto drew of Blurr?
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>>93087854
I bet that IDW coudn't make us feel sympathetic on Megatron with a G1 design.
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>>93092570

Twittumblr threw a shitty fit over him and refused to buy his issues.

When your only fanbase doesn't buy the book it's a problem.
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>>93092594

I only found these links

https://www.doujinshi.org/book/496294/BLURR/

https://www.doujinshi.org/book/534808/B.O.T/
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>>93092986

Also the reason why Zoner's Lost Light cover was never used. People raged at IDW to hell and back over her two other covers.

Probably had a sexy Nauitca cover and IDW wen "nope, not having it again"
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>>93093018
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>>93092957
it is the same design, just more detailed
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>>93092570
>IDW purposefully assigned a bad artist to Lost Light in order to drive up sales of their shittier but better drawn comics

IDW wanted a faggot to draw their faggoty book and Roberts campaigned for lawrence to draw MTMTE for years.

Simple as that.
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>>93091147
I forgot how much I miss him.
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>>93093042
Who the hell even is Zoner?
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>>93091895
100% agree, still wonder how it was allowed and why Roddy didn't call him on it, or at least Ratchet- Ratchet surely would have said something.
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>>93093042
Was this it? Cause I like it.
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>>93093042
This is hilarious, they hate him because he draws "sexy" robots, and yet they love the #valveplug tag. Then whine about the fact he drew some yaoi when he was younger, like none of them ever would EVER draw porn of their favourite cartoon characters fucking.

>>93093134
Everybody on the command staff wanted to fuck Megatron too badly to whinge too bad about it.
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>>93093133
A shitty chink artist with a horrible attitude in general; she thinks she's *the* hot new shit artist and was bragging when she first got to do those covers but then threw a massive childish tantrum when people tried to offer her constructive criticism. It turned into angry criticism when she straight up told people to fuck off. All this came from her side tumblr and twitter, most of which has been deleted now.
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>>93093200
China getting removed from existence when?
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>>93093178
>Then whine about the fact he drew some yaoi when he was younger,
uhh anon he still draws little boys being fucked by adult men to this day
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>>93093212
>>93093260
I really wish I hadnt read any of this.
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>>93093042
What was wrong with that cover? Other than the feet, anyway.
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>>93093512
Dude use a pastebin holy fuck
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>>93093548
This, we really did not need all this shit here especially when its some tumblrites stupid headcanon bullshit.
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Fandoms were a mistake.
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>>93092570
??? Sakamoto's drawn Nautica several times, what are you talking about.
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>>93093212
>>93093260
>>93093284
>>93093308
>>93093325
>>93093348
>>93093368
>>93093393
>>93093413
>>93093440
>>93093460
>>93093489
>>93093512
stop spamming actual fanfic bullshit
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Why do tumblr has to stick a dick or vagina to everything they find? i mean, this is a show about a goddamn bunch of hoodlum robots fighting for dominance for gods sake
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>>93093903
The only way they know how to humanize characters and have them show empathy is to include sex.
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>>93087998
Wouldn't it make it worse because they let Megatron go and escape justice?
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>>93093903
You say that as thought other sites don't as well. Case in point: A lot of people on 4chan, on the Combaticon situation in TAAO.
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>>93093808
>>93092570
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>>93088713
WTF did his crash airbag go off?
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>>93094092
>crash airbag
funny joke
>WTF did
fake reaction that made it seem amazingly lame
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>>93093903
>>93093964
same reason horny guys need tits and asses on their female bots
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>>93093903
I mean USB port aint so different from dick vagina if anything its a lot less mess to clean up
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>>93090895
I am not a fleshie/former person but I wouldn't mind if something like this happened with Marissa and TC.

Although I'm worried now that Pyra is moving in on Marissa that she might take her offer since Marissa is not exactly happy with Optimus (I just hope she's smart enough to know she's being played).
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>>93091895
Regardless of how "private" it's crewed and commanded by Autobots and Optimus is still the commander of the Autobots so yes they still have to listen to him. They are not private citizens they are still members of a military force with a chain of command.
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>>93094141
Not trying to amuse you, legitimately asking what's going on there.

But I guess it's just the artist wanting to put weird squishy boobs on a robot (not really my thing I like the big hard chests).
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>>93094606
oh, in that case you're just fucking stupid
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>>93094606
>I like the big hard chests
Anon you are in for a treat
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>>93094169
If they have interesting designs, then having anthropomorphic traits like breasts or defined buttocks would be surplus to requirements. However, a lot of them have rather generic looking designs that lack interesting mechanical parts.

Strika is the default one cited since doesn't have a particularly oversexed design, but has a legitimately interesting one with elements such as extremely long and powerful upper body and arms, gasmask-like head, wheels for feet, and either another set of wheels or cannons mounted to the back.
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>>93094047
Twoface Nautica was best Nautica
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>>93092570
>>mfw Lost Light will get canceled looking hideous and reading even worse and Sakamoto will never draw Nautica

just hope Takara releases their own Nautica based on the TR one.
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>>93095419
Exposed mechanisms are so lewd.
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>>93094330
Wasn't Bumblee commander of the Autobots before the who dying thing occurred? Optimus was fresh back from fucking off to space at that point.
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>>93087854
I want to get into these comics so goddamn bad but just know absolutely nothing. Threads like these make this stuff sound so goddamn cool.
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>>93096565
Check out this post >>93096565
IDW's main Transformers series is it's own universe that doesn't need prior knowledge or experience with Transformers, so you don't need to have read/watched/played anything beforehand.
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>>93096643
I didn't know that it was a standalone thing! That's way better than I thought.

But you linked to my post twice by accident. Which post should I check out?
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>>93096692
whoops
>>93092018
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>>93094898
>Being this butthurt over robo boobs.
What a loser

>>93094931
That's what I'm talking about.
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>>93096757
But I wasn't?
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>>93088342
Oh god that is possibly worse than Gay -off and mind raped into being gay Onslaught
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>>93096321
>Am I Bumblebee?
>Shockwave: Lol sure why not?
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>>93096816
You seem pretty hostile over norhing then friendo.
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>MtMtE is shit now
>TaaO is canceled
>Prime is boring
>TLK might be amazing
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>>93088342
>>93088347
>>93089503
>>93090667
>>93096872
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>>93096816
Is that a question or a statement? Do you not know yourself if you're mad?
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>>93096963
At least he doesn't have a mouth.
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>>93096948
I'm sad about TaaO.

Kind of enjoying OP myself but I see the problems with it.
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>>93096948
>TLK might be amazing
lmao

Also OP is still pretty entertaining.
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>>93096981
But what if he must scream?
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>>93096947
thanx
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>>93097047
He, uh.... Uses a casset con to play a recorded scream
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>>93097047
that's what starscream is for
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>>93096706
Thanks a ton!
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>>93096179
wait... that's Big Convoy?
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>>93096981
Soundwave does have a mouth under the mask in IDW though.
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>>93098088
>/
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>>93098181
>Ravage
Oh right.
He's dead.
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>>93096963
JUST
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>>93098181
N-no he isn't...
>tfw fucking Lug is returning from the dead and not Ravage or even Skids
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>>93087891

Somehow I doubt everyone in that class still hates him or they wouldn't go.

And that's the anoother thing, Megatron, the genocidal murderer of triillions, who thought no sacrifice was too great to win the war, no means unacceptable, who ravaged his own planet to the point of rendering it inhabitable.A guy who refered to himself in the third person. Is now... TEACHING. A. CLASS?!
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>>93098655
>one-time (literal) special snowflake resurrection of a transformer
>aside from every spark flower ever, we have ravage, skids and dominus ambus recently deceased interesting characters
>brings back the backpack
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The gems get away with it.
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>>93098924
>wasted Pipes' return potential
Terrible.
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>>93098773
>be Riptide
>huge crush on professor
>promises to speak to you after class
>punches ambus and goes to med bay instead
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>>93099074
I'm still holding out hope for Pipes, Tripodeca and Ambulon.
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>>93098924
>Skids could have been revived
>Get Lug instead
SIGH.
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>>93099190
>Ambulon
That wouldn't be half bad, anon!
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Can someone explain to me why I can't help but ship transformers?

Am I just mentally impaired?
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>>93099420
>Can someone explain to me why I can't help but ship transformers?
>Am I just mentally impaired?

Quite possibly, the next step is applying for a job as an IDW staff writer.
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>>93099539
>the next step is applying for a job as an IDW staff writer
Trust me anon, you don't want that.
Not unless you want more story lines staring Starscream.
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>>93099610
I just want Soundwave and the cassettes' adventures on earth.
and also for him and Megatron to have a talk.
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So Megs is now stranded on the functionist universe?

Did Terminus intentionally lead him to the wrong transporter?

And that call from Orion.

What did they mean with it?
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>>93099973
Yes, he did. Magnus also played Rodimus so he didn't go back for him by dropping Getaway's name.

The call from Orion was just something nice for Megatron.
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>>93100050
What?

IDW continuity is too convoluted for me to remember everything. Why does mentioning Getaway convince Rodimus to leave?
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>>93100134
Are you retarded?
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>>93100182
No, I just haven't read that.

edgy cunt.
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>>93100300
Nah I'm with, >>93100182. Are you like the one person who actually jumped onto Lost Light before reading MTMTE?
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>>93099663
Soundwaves casettes are currently pissed at Soundwave for joining Prime as his second in command.
As for talking to Megs...Well, we'll have to wait for Megs to get back to the normal universe.
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>>93100134

Getaway started a mutiny that got Rodimus and the rest stranded on the Necroworld.

Getaway is more or less the bane of Rodimus's existence.
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>>93100563
You're leaving out Getaway is responsible for the deaths of some of his crew and attempted to murder Tailgate.
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>All these anons attacking Getaway
Getaway did nothing wrong and took justice into his own hands by disposing a murderous tyrant and his sympathizers. None of this would have happened had Optimus listened to the well thought out advice of his ADVISORS and not made such poor decisions.
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>>93100892
None of it would have happened if Optimus wasn't a cunt who made Megatron Captain of a ship that wasn't his.
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>>93099136
Riptide just wants the endless tests and failures to end. He said something dumb like Megatron killed more Transformers than ever lived about him.
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>>93100584

Skids and Ravage technically were killed by the DJD, granted Getawaymwas still responsible for them ending up where they were.

>>93100892
>>93100955

You are right, they wouldn't be in this situation if it wasn't for Optimus. Poor decision all round.
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>>93101109
>killed more Transformers than ever lived
That doesn't even make sense.
Is Riptide an idiot?
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>>93101617
Yes. He was born to die and got unsatisfactory marks even for that.
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>>93101727
MTO's were a mistake.
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>>93101617
>>93101727

Riptide is a Knave what did James Roberts mean by that?
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>>93099236
Ok well now I'm just mad.
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>>93099236
It'll turn out that Skids was actually in the flower, and then he'll live in Lug's body. Roberts has already used him to make a bunch of Doctor Who references, so now he'll be "regenerated."
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>>93087854
>Implying that Megatron was ever about genocide against organic life forms.

Megatron was never fucking about murdering organics. He was about murdering anything and everything that got in his way to power. There is a difference.

He had disdain for organic life forms and would kill them as soon as look at them. But he didn't go out of his way to butcher them.

His goal was simple; Destroy the Autobots and every legacy left of the old regimes of Prime rulership. Lead Cybertron and his people into a new golden age of freedom and conquest and power.

He didn't give a shit about organic or non-organic. He just killed everyone and anything that got in his way.
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>>93102558
MTMTE #39 literally had a scene about how Megatron decided it was in the Cons' best interests to wipe out all organics.
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>>93097509
>>93097536
I could obviate that new comic, "Salvation", but I always wanted to see a gestalt fighting a Titan. So i´m in.
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>>93102674
Well, after dealing with Earth, they would... But before then, it was never about murdering organics. Earth changed their mind.
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>>93102738
No. That scene was long before Earth. Megatron was anti-organic for a long time.
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>>93102761
name one good thing organics have ever done for the universe
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>>93102783
Not be an entire race of savages who can only kill
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>>93102683
It would be pretty funny since the Titan would still be alot bigger. It'd be like a toddler trying to fight an 8 year old.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kEAC7pEPLI
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>>93102870
Have you fucking seen organics? The only things they do is murder each other.
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>>93102674
Wasn't that sort of mutual? The council seem to be out to murder every transformer they can get away with.
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>>93102890
Yeah. Anyway, looking at the size of the jaw, I find the relation between Devastator and Trypticon exaggerate.
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>>93098655
>>93099236
They couldn'y bring back someone who wasn't flowered, and Censure was dead before Skids and Ravage died.
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>>93103026
The council hates Transformers thanks to their 4 million year long war that gets a lot of organics killed along the way. The galactic council has always been justified.

Transformers bring destruction wherever they go even transformers realize this.
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>>93102783
>name one good thing organics have ever done for the universe
Form the Solstar order along with banning Cybertronians from the galactic council.
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>>93104248
>Solstar order
Organics form a group to murder slightly shittier organics to prevent them from murdering yet more organics.
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>>93104471
And it was a good idea. Dire Wraiths are bad and invasive.
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>>93088342
WHAT IN GODS NAME HAPPENED TO HIM
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>>93105449
Nothing, he just took his helmet off. It's right there. Chill out.
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>>93105449
Transformer heads are just Helmets. Chromia does the same thing in TAAO thought it didnt look anywhere as stupid because Sara is a good artist. Megatron is also just wearing a helmet and removed it in his origin story.
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>>93105782
>>93105632
I've seen Megs without his helmet but seeing Soundwave without his just scared me.
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>>93105848
Now we need Starscream no helmet.
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>>93106191
They wouldn't dare.
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>>93106191
>his head is shaped like an egg
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Having them as helmets triggers me something fierce.
Even when things depict removal, still feels like that is part of their body being disconnected.
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>>93106905
Agreed. That and in the past we've seen the helmets get cut and bleed as if it were a part of their body so it feels like that was an oversight.
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>>93106905
Agreed.
I'm not a big fan of the idea. Though I think the level of baldness depicted depends on the artist.Milnes helmetless Orion looked more or less the same for example minus the antennas and face mask.
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>>93107170
To me it makes sense for Soundwave. He's got super senses so I headcanon that he uses his helmet to dull things to a tolerable level.
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>>93107211
I choose to ignore the helmet thing and pretend it never happened.
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>>93107211
I think it makes sense for Soundwave to wear the visor and face mask to dull his extreme senses but his helmet is really just his helmet. He's a stylish guy.
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I don't remember him being the one to start it
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>>93108684
Pretty sure it was Nova Prime who started it.
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>>93108709
The Galactic Council was right. Transformers are a stain on the galaxy.
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>>93087854
I want to read this shit. Any reading guide?
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>>93109163
>ctrl + f
>guide
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>>93109163
Where are you willing to start? From the very beginning or a perfect jumping on point?
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>>93109304
Kek, thanks.
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>>93087854
>>begin a universe-wide genocide targeting organics, killing everything that might get in the way. Trillions of lifeforms now extinct.

Do we have a confirm on that? I thought he was just fighting a civil war and not specifically targeting organics.

I mean, not avoiding them either, although that would have been smarter. Fighting the Autobots is hard enough, but fighting the Autobots and the rest of the Galaxy...
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>>93089230

He STARTED OUT as Che Guevara, then he became Hitler and now he's... I dunno... Gandhi? Maybe more like Mandela.

>>93089538

Except - irony of ironies - Elita One. Wait, has she even met him yet? No, they haven't met, have they?

>Elita being a stone-cold bitch who would burn down the galaxy for her people and not lose a moments' recharge time over it
>Meets Optimus
>Melts into a luke-warm puddle who makes amusing slip-ups in her conversation while Optimus clearly feels awkward
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>>93109488
The Cybertronian military was already engaged in a war to mold the universe to better fit mechanical life back when Nova and was in charge. The Prime after him, whose name I forget, was in the process of retiring parts of it to establish a more defensive oriented force but after his assassination Sentinal ramped things up again. When he 'died' most military leaders had a choice to join either the Autobots, the Decepticons, hold the line out in space so no one decides it would be a great opportunity to attack Cybertronian territory, or to fuck off and do their own thing.
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>>93089793

"Is that a gun on your arm or are you just glad to see me?"
"Not all answers are binary, anon."

>>93089917
>how long until Optimus starts wearing a decepticon badge?

I think we kind of passed that point when he annexed Earth.

>>93090024

That is literally cuckolding.
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>>93090166

>Starscream forced to be a leader

That would be sweet. Getting the thing you always wanted, and every day it's more horrible than the day before.

>>93090247

>TFW "the shot heard around the world" was basically just "Notice me, sempai!"

>>93090800

Transformers are hypermasculine. And they represent the entire spectrum of homosexual male sexual stereotypes. Optimus and Megatron for the good and bad versions of the daddy. You want bears? Lugnut and Bulkhead should do nicely. The bitch? Hello Starscream. Twinks? There's so many in MTMTE I don't even know where to start. Not to mention a whole bunch of little bots and cons if you're into the whole Boku no Tailgate thing...
And of course just a slew of just plain hunks.

If you're into chicks, you're shit out of luck. They killed off the best one a few weeks ago.
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>>93109567
>Elita being a stone-cold bitch who would burn down the galaxy for her people and not lose a moments' recharge time over it
Don'the forget shes an egomaniac. Elita-one is basically Starscream but surprisingly more evil.
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>>93090869

I just assumed those little recess box-thingies almost all Transformers have on their foreheads served that function.

>>93090886

It's probably not how organics do it. They probably just hook up a cable and 'touch' each other's Sparks in virtual space or something.

>>93091147

How does Knockout even understand the concept of marriage? Is he just using the colloquialism he learned from context?
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>>93109648
>They killed off the best one a few weeks ago.
Hey now there's still Arcee and she is super cute when drawn by the right artist.

Also Windblade is only comatose.
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>>93092271
>He could have been the cabin boy

You have a dirty mind.

>>93097813

No. It's basically a Transformer from a colony world founded by Onyx Prime (The Beast Prime out of the Thirteen) who transforms into a brachiosaur.

Shockwave 'hypnotized' him into thinking he was Optimus.
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>>93109688
>How does Knockout even understand the concept of marriage?
He's been confirmed to watch drive in movies in TFP, enough to think zombie rules worked with terrocons.

So its pretty plausible that he watched some black and white romance or a shitty romcom and learnt it there.

>>93109728
Windblade is trash, I'm sorry to break the news
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>>93109762
Then who's the dead fembot you speak of?
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>>93098943

They count. They're the Lost Tribe of Amalgamous Prime.

Think about it:
>Spark Core ("Gem")
>Can change shape
>Can combine
>World conquerors

>>93099420

If that's true, everybody on this board must be insane.

So... probably.

>>93102951

Not true. They also fuck and enslave each other.
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>>93104224

True!

>>93106482

>He has human-like ears under his helmet

>>93109579
>The Prime after him, whose name I forget,

Nominus, and he was entirely forgettable.
Shit, the only thing he ever did in the comic was dying. And not even on-screen!

>>93109728
>Arcee and she is super cute

Yes, but she is also a psychotic, sadistic killer.

>>93109762
>Windblade is trash

I liked Windblade.
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>>93109777
I'm not that anon, anon, I just don't like Windblade
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>Megatron whips of his helmet
>beautiful /m/ prince with the robo equivalent of flowing locks
>instant following of loyal decepticons

I know he shears them off later because theyre missing and he has exposed internals under his helmet when he fights Overlord, but what are the chances of him having got them back at some point now?
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Where's a good place to start with transformer comics? Decent arcs to follow?
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>>93110019

...That was so weird. I always wonder whose idea that was.
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>>93109788
Rose Quartz = Megatron (murderous revolutionary leader who lead a devastating war)
Pearl = Starscream (tsundere bird)
Garnet = Soundwave (loyal and calm, contains two smaller gems)
Amethyst = Drift/Deadlock (misbegotten failure who rises to greatness through being selected by Roseatron)
Bismuth = Soundwave (big titty purple who creates weapons for the cause and wants to logically just muder all their enemies rather than just win over them)

tl;dr WE
ARE DECEPTICONS
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>>93110112
If you want the short route, read Death of Optimus Prime followed by Robots in Disguise #1 or More than meets the eye #1. For the love of god stick to only one and complete it before reading the other one. Both have completely different tones and settings and reading both at the same time will ruin one or the other but I feel RiD in particular usually suffers the most because it's a political comic and moves at a slower pace than MTMTE.
I started with RiD first because I knew of the impending Dark Cybertron event which focused more on the RiD cast than it did the MTMTE one.

The long but more fulfilling route is just reading the entirety of IDW TF by following the reading guide that anon posted earlier. It also makes RiD a whole lot better because you actually know the context behind why certain characters behave the way they do and crap they allude to.
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>>93110192
Those are terrible match ups, only Rose kinda fits.
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>>93110167
They look fairly useful for a mining frame if they're something like long-range comms or useful for using echolocation.

Also, who doesn't love beautiful Megatron? He spends the whole of his origins comics run looking like a robo heartthrob.
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>>93110192
Now I want a jokey parody TF mini series inspired by G1 that's exactly the same as the typical Autobot-Decepticon war only everything is sparkly and everyone is forced to use girly mahou shoujo weaponry.
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>>93109788
Forgot some
>They fight a civil war on earth
>Always dealing with the issue of resources
>Have to deal with a caste system in their society
>Basically immortal until killed
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>Roberts on twitter getting butt blasted about people not liking the first arc of lost light, megatron, etc
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>>93110297
NO FUCKING WAY
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>>93110297
Well, what did he expect? People love Megatron in MTMTE/LL because he is awkwardly working to better himself and in a situation we never ever see Megatron in. Sweeping him under a giant rug and pushing Blueberry Rodimus to one side in favour of your new ocs (whom people dislike anyway as they fucked up the pacing/content of the last arc) is a terrible way to go about things.
Is he gonna rage just as hard when people don't buy the lug/anode 2 issue adventure? Can't wait for that.
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>>93109567
>>Elita being a stone-cold bitch who would burn down the galaxy for her people and not lose a moments' recharge time over it
>>Meets Optimus
>>Melts into a luke-warm puddle who makes amusing slip-ups in her conversation while Optimus clearly feels awkward

I want this more than anything now.
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>>93110297

watch issue 10 actually be the best issue this year.

and it's because he's going back to a plot point he should have focused on at the begining.
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>>93110297
Screenshots, post haste.
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>>93110326

a part of me hopes he takes the hint and just drops Anode and Lug.

they just disappear altogether, no killing off, no mention....nothing. This is a rare example of them pulling a Chuck Cunningham would work.
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>>93110376
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>>93110388
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>>93110376

I assume he's refering to this.
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>>93110381
They might leave on their own adventure later on, which I think would be for the best. He already fucked up by making them a key focus of an arc that should have had way WAY more focus on alternate characters we already know (like the fates of Starscream, the DJD, Bumblebee etc), and Megatron trying to balance his rage and fear and hate over functionism and his new pacifism.

But instead it felt like a lot of exposition crammed into a small space. In any case, would it not have made more sense for Megatron to do what alternate universe Rung did? That way he could have been "out" of the story and in a coma or something without dumping him permanently in fanfic land.
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>>93110381

I like Anode and Lug.
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>>93110457
James, pls.
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Is it just me or do we know next to nothing about Velocity compared to the rest of the cast?
>Be James
>Develop new characters before ones you already have.
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>>93110192
I feel like this is a better list of Gem/Cybertronian matches.

Pear=Prowl
Garnet=Jazz mixed with Soundwave
Amethyst=Skywarp
Bismuth=Grimlock
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>>93110510

all we know about Velocity is this:

1.) She's a medic
2.) she's not the brightest bulb, she failed her medic exams a few times before finally getting it right
3.) she and Nautica are friends.
4.) she only exists for Nautica to talk to and be the medic when Ratchet and First Aid were away.

Yeah it's a shame he chose to focus on Anode and Lug over literally every other character.

Velocity, Roller, Fangry, Rapidfire and most of the mutineers i wish had even half of the focus Anode and Lug got.
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You know reading this theory made me a sad Rodimus may never get good.
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>>93110727
>tfw early IDW Rodimus was reckless but brilliant
What the hell happened?
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>>93110727
>all the steamy delicious potential of the functionist au
>we got possibly the worst-written and more boring shit of jro's robot enterprise run.

Rodimus even got zapped by the functionist matrix, and absolutely nothing interesting happened. Unless he starts getting mind controlled bythe functionist council from another dimension at some point, in which case I take it back because that would be interesting.
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>>93110727
> i-i've totally been a Prime all along, so p-please pay attention to me, senpai!
> y-you don't even need other Primes anymore, r-right?
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>>93110727
Being Rodimus is suffering.
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>>93110837
>that spoiler

not a bad idea actually, could be interesting.

but Roberts wouldn't do that.

why did we let tumblr be the audience he writes for and not us?
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hey does anyone have a link to the previous Lost Light thread?
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>>93110967
It was just an IDW TF thread but we storytimed it there.
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>>93111067

well yeah thats what i meant.
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>>93110911
>why did we let tumblr be the audience he writes for and not us?
From my knowledge (which is basically all that my friend tells me), Tumblr more or less has the same opinions as /tfg/. The only difference is shipping. I'm pretty sure the earlier anons would be hanged on that sit for discussing Optimus/Soundwave.
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>>93111078
If I had my laptop I would ctrl+f its name on the archive but alas I am mobile posting
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>>93111130

ok fair enough.
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>>93110911
Tumblr and /tfg/ share alot of opinions, I use both Because I create and consume lots of gross robot porn. There's a few shitkids in tumblr who love to invent discourse and a few geewunners in /tfg/ that don't fit into the audience, but the audience seems pretty similar.
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>>93111111
It sucks that OP/SW only seems to have any real presence here of all places, it's really not that questionable compared to other, more popular things.

>>93111156
>>93044211
Here.
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>>93111226

Thank you.
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>>93111226
People have noticed it on Twitter but it's one of those "evil" ships because apparently it's "abusive".
Yes. Let that sink in.
>tfw Optimus has been nothing but super kind and caring towards Soundwave the moment they teamed up
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>>93111313
>abusive

How are they justifying that mindset? The blackmail? Soundwave was being a shit and got called on it and now they're besties.
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>>93111353
Yep its because of the blackmail.
Apparently that's abusive even though it wasn't even in the context of abuse and Soundwave would have never been in that position had he not killed his own damn teammate. It was a golden example of karma.
That being said it's like their completely ignoring literally EVERYTHING that came right after that.
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>>93111434
>their
They're.
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>>93111434
That's fuckin' dumb, yo.
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>>93111434
>tfw they obviously trust each other now and care about each other's safety
Soundwave is now Optimus' SIC and considers him a friend (even after all the betrayals he's had recently!!), and all the backstory in OP suggests they could've gotten along from the start if they didn't have conflicting interests at the time.

I think these people just aren't reading Optimus Prime.
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>>93110806
His character development went to hell when Autocracy depicted Hot Rod completely different from his Spotlight/Maximum Dinobots appearances.
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>>93111532
>I think these people just aren't reading Optimus Prime.
I just think they're not accepting what they're reading.
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There are very few arts and fanfiction of Optimus/Soundwave.
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True.
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>>93112033
Yeah and there's so little Shockwave/Megatron too I wish I had money to pay for them to exist
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TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS ep 2 - Characters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkYXzRQikZc
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>>93113990
McFeely has a surprisingly soothing voice.
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What is with Roberts lately?
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>>93114879
Wild.
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>>93112033
Parcivale is the only mainstream TF artist who has patrician taste in Soundwave ships.
But seriously, look at how good Optimus and Soundwave look together. Where is all the lewd?!
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>>93114879
He isn't wrong though.
How the hell could LL's narrative trigger you? Maybe if Megatron reminds you of your abuser but in that case you'd have to avoid any media in which a villain receives a redemption arc because villains by nature of being villains are always going to be abusive towards someone or something.
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>>93115341
Didn't mean to imply that he's wrong. Just meant that he's had more bite to his posts lately. Makes me wonder if something's going on that he's not talking about?
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>>93114879
>>93114924
>>93115341
>>93115464
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>>93114227
This issue is going to be so good. I love it already.
Barber writes best when he's having fun and not sunk in by the depressing political life of Optimus.
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>>93108932
>war for fucking ever over politics
>civil war escalates into galactic war
>decimate one planet
>nearly destroy another countless times
>bring the dominant race of that planet into your war, putting their entire people in jeopardy
>literal countless lives lost, Cybertronian or otherwise
They're right.
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>>93115464
>Makes me wonder if something's going on that he's not talking about?

When your entire fanbase is nothing but angry shippers and tumblrites you get that.

That's what happens when you pander to a single group of insane fans thinking that they will suck your dick all day every day and neglect the people who made you big. You get entitles pieces of shit that think they can use your comic for their own gains.
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>>93116375
I'm just baffled by how someone can read a character, it reminds them of their abuser or something, making it about them, and then accuse the writer of being unempathetic and apologetic for something they have literally 0 control or awareness over. These people are so fucking crazy. Who takes imaginary robot communists this personally?
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>>93114227
Who wants to bet money they're setting Jazz up?
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>>93117638
Doubt it. I think them using Hector Ramirez spells out this is legit rather than it just being a military trap or whatever.
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>>93117900
I don't think that can be called a given, seeing what they've done with Spike Blackrock and so on.
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>>93117949
I guess, but we've already had Sofia not wanting to bring him into an interview because she hates Cybertronians; that doesn't make much sense if it was actually a trap.

Also, that is a lot less interesting than this just being Jazz having an honest conversation with the media.
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>>93118013
yeah, but this is IDW, who insists on making Cybertronians suffer.
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>>93087854
He deserves none of this.
It's a completely EUGH ending to a completely OOC storyline.
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>>93114879
Some people are genuinely triggered by the plotline? I'm really shocked.
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>>93110388
>>93110402
>>93110410
I honestly thought he would have gotten more hate over the end of issue 55 and how lackluster it was.

And other anon who said he was booty-blasted...this is hardly that as far as I can tell, I was expecting him to actually be angry and now Im disappointed.
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>>93096179
>>93096212
>>93096321
Aw yeah, Guidi is back. In my opinion the best transformers artist.

And I love when the artist make flashbacks using the Marvel old style.
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>>93110911
>why did we let tumblr be the audience he writes for and not us?
Because we are tumblr anon. Most of the people here also have tumblrs and shitpost over there regularly.
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>>93120967
>I honestly thought he would have gotten more hate over the end of issue 55 and how lackluster it was.

He did. A lot of people jumped ship for good becuse of how he handled the DJD. That's why the sales are shit now (among other things)

The entire comic is just getting shittier and shittier and the fandom is noticing it too so that's why Roberts is much more on edge and snappy now. He's used to getting his dick sucks 24/7 which isn't happening anymore.
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>>93121394

he's a fool then for not understanding why.
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>>93121394
Thing is, Megatron literally tearing the DJD apart and breaking his vow of pacifism could have been a really good bit of story, and actually contributed really well to his arc.

Instead we got the mistake that was a revived Terminus.
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>>93121394
>He did. A lot of people jumped ship for good becuse of how he handled the DJD.
I dont frequent twitter so I didn't know but at least people did complain then too. I know people here were having what were nearly meltdowns over how the DJD were killed, and how Skids death was such a stupid waste.
I'd almost like to see Roberts bring them back somehow but no way it wouldn't be a total asspull this late in.
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>>93121591

Terminus showing up was a mistake, least they could have done was after Megatron flipped the table when Ravage died, it was the last scene we see of those character in the end of the season.
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>>93121477

It's fairly common with writers that become famous over night. They all seem to think that people like THEM and then by extension their work, instead of the other way around.

That's why his S2 centered so much about bullshit he likes like sitcoms, Community references, hipster music and other shit instead of telling a story. He got too enruped in the dick sucking "you like my stories because you like me and how fun and quirky I am".

And since Milne left, a lot of fans got the "emperor has no clothes" from it.

Same with Scott and Stone. The moment Stone's art was gone everyone turned on Scott.
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>>93121591
>Thing is, Megatron literally tearing the DJD apart and breaking his vow of pacifism could have been a really good bit of story
No not really. If you were going to do something like that it should have been at least two issues and slaughtering the entirety of the djd after how much he teased them for 3, almost 4 years was insane. There was no payoff, no nothing.
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>>93121625
>Same with Scott and Stone. The moment Stone's art was gone everyone turned on Scott.

granted Scott ended up getting pretty good more recently and now i'm sad her book is ending. Scott did end up taking the criticisms seriously (see Chromia).
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>>93121625
>The moment Stone's art was gone everyone turned on Scott.
Heh yeah those were fun times.
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>>93121625
>The moment Stone's art was gone everyone turned on Scott.
Not everyone. Some saw her for the hack she is right from the get-go.
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>>93114263

>Transformers' names in English are approximations of their Cybertronian names

Makes you wonder. Is Bumblebee really named for an alien insect? How do you translate 'Optimus Prime'? Also, Megatron literally said his name ended in "tron as in -neutron bomb-".
Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave could of course easily be straight translations.
>Xaaron is a typical Cybertronian name which was never translated because he never visited Earth
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>>93121667

Anyone watched the "Sherlock is a shit show" video? Where a dude tears Moffat 3 new assholes for every show he ever did?

Watching it I realized that all the shit that he said about Moffat's Sherlock/Who is a PERFECT 1-to-1 reflection of Roberts writing. It's all about teasing, hints, background stories that NEVER pay off and are in the end of thing never explored, never exciting and only serve as a "oh if you keep watching/reading something COOL will happen".

But then it doesn't happen and instead of it you again get some vague teasing that something cool will happen LATER but then it doesn't happen and it keeps going and going.

There is literally not substance in Robert's writing. It's just constant teasing of big things that lead to nothing while the middle is filled with overwritten dialogue, unfunny jokes and obscure references.

And just like how it took 4 season of Sherlock for people to retroactively realize that the show was always shit, it took 50 issues to realize that Roberts doesn't actually know how to write an ongoing comic.
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>>93121625
To me Scott improved over time. I still thought her beginning stories were good, just not great. And now she has a great handle on the characters she writes. As much as I want to see Starscream grow and change having him do what he did to Blast Off means she still understands how he is left to his own devices. And I loved it.
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>>93121667
>There was no payoff, no nothing.

Maybe that in itself was a payoff.

Those assholes effectively fought for nothing. For a shadow, a spectre. They fought to fight - they killed, to kill. To give them some kind of glorious send-off would be giving them too much credit.

Instead they died trapped inside a bubble with someone who had shed the skin they were still worshiping, and who proceeded to strip them of the names they hid their ugly, petty selves behind.

Even Overlord was like "I am over this".
...Heh, didn't even realize that before.

The DJD was a remnant and it needed to be destroyed; Megatron's final act of murderous violence, the destruction of a monster he himself created.

No, it's not fair that he gets off so lightly, but he knows that, too. He's suspected it from the talk he had with Optimus inside Omega Supreme and he reflected "Sweet Primus, what has become of me?" and it really hit home when he stood in the middle of that endless field of flowers, each of which represented several lives he had taken.

It's one thing to be an absolute monster. But remember what he said in 'Megatron Origin'. "It was unintentional".

Things... got out of hand. What do you do if you discover you are an absolute monster only because you took the time to think about it - and you don't want to be one?

What's he supposed to to? Hop into a trash compactor? I think he's gonna try to do as much good as he can... it'll never make up for what he did, but at least it will be something.
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>>93121805
>Anyone watched the "Sherlock is a shit show" video?

No, but I am 100% behind it already.
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>>93122091

from a meta standpoint that was probably the intention but the fans wanted to see some real action after being built up.
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>>93122178
Personally I would have been fine with Megatron disabling them. He was able to disable a fuel intake chip without surgery by a good smack. You can't tell me he's not capable of nonlethal self defense.
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>>93121477

He is so unable to accept criticism that he searches his own name/his series and then butts into people criticism him who didn't even @ him and starts complaining abut them "not getting it".

He used to do this for YEARS that's why there were people who didn't like him even back when his writing was good but then he was the gay king of all transformers so it was ok. Now that he fucked up it's not ok anymore.
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>>93089668
Transformers vs GI Joe is a top recommendation in my opinion
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>>93122240
Wonder what the DJD would have done/added to the plot once incapacitated. Genuinely curious because I liked the idea of those guys.
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>>93122373
>he searches his own name
Holy crap, he's Dan Slott.
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>>93088342
I do not like that in the slightest. And here I thought Optimus having a retractable faceplate was dumb.
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>>93121667

Problem is Roberts thinks he's writing a TV show. It was cute for a while but then you realize that a TV show doesn't work the sam way as a comic.

An average TV season is around 26 episodes per year. In a single episode of a tv show you can fit as much as 2 comics.

You on the other hand have 12 comics per year. So you would literally take 2 years to tell what a TV does in 6 months. And vice versa what a show tells in a year you need 4 years in comic time.

So Roberts obsession with "down time" and "filler" issues where nothing happens like Swearth & Personality Ticks & Hedonia really is moronic. TV Shows use breather episodes because you only have a week between episodes. You can't have all plot all the time or it gets overwhelming. You need a downtime from time to time.

You don't need that in comics because you have an ENTIRE MONTH to cool down between story arc. There is no need for months after months of nothing happening just because you conviced yourself that you're writing a TV show.

Yes one off stories are GOOD when they are about characters and when they grow them, but so many of "breather" issues of MTMTE/LL are just "the crew fucks around doing nothing and making references and le funny maymay jokes".

Comparing bullshit like Swearth to the beautiful character pieces of Before & After or Interiors shows just how much Roberts sucked on his own dick.
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>>93114263
>having the in-story interview be spread out and written like an actual magazine interview
I really like this. Actually surprised I haven't seen it done more.
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>>93122955
>Problem is Roberts thinks he's writing a TV show. It was cute for a while but then you realize that a TV show doesn't work the sam way as a comic.

I thought that as well. He clearly writes more like a tv show than a comic.

He uses seasons, has head canon music for it....

I'm sure he'd fail writing a proper tv show but i have to wonder how he'd do.

also i'm convinced if you adapted MTMTE into a proper tv show it'd be much better.
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>>93122091
>Even Overlord was like "I am over this".
and Deathsaurusm too, gets fed with all that and decides the lives of his people were more important than the ghost they were chasing.
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>>93123304

I'm a bit sad Deathsaurus never saw Megatron stand and be heroic in the end.

Could have seen Megatron has grown to become a respectable leader, good to his men type that he is. Could have become allies.

The only thing i hope happens now is when Deathsaurus shows up again, he gets to fight Star Saber.
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>>93109648
Hypermasculine =! hypergay, stop spreading such drivel, you goddamn baboon.
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>>93122091
>Those assholes effectively fought for nothing. For a shadow, a spectre. They fought to fight - they killed, to kill. To give them some kind of glorious send-off would be giving them too much credit.
Ive seen this excuse brought out more than once for 55 conclusion and you know what, no, No, Roberts doesn't get to hand wave it like that. It was 4 years (I think one of the earlier anons said 3 but it was actually 4 fucking years the DJD were teased to us) and for them to be ended like they were is just straight up tone deaf to your entire audience bad writing.
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>>93122595
I loved the idea of a group of boogy man style decepticons always lurking out there, such a shame.
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>>93123426
>I'm a bit sad Deathsaurus never saw Megatron stand and be heroic in the end.
I prefer this, actually. Deathsaurus "growing" by himself.
Megatron doesn't need to be the catalyst for everything.

>The only thing i hope happens now is when Deathsaurus shows up again, he gets to fight Star Saber.
Can Deathsaurus redeem Star Saber? What about Victory Leo?
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>>93122955
This.
The last thing we need in a comic book is filler. Roberts was much better at writing his slice of life, cozy comedy moments into interesting and plotted arcs than he is now.

Also have you anons noticed only a few characters have a distinct "voice" now? Everyone is so quippy now that I swear if you took straight quotes out of LL half of the time you wouldn't be able to tell who said it. Even Cyclonus is losing his unique voice ever so slightly.
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>>93121802
Well, Bumblebee might not even be an insectlike name, but refering to the plump bodies and yellow coloration, with a name like "lemonpuff" also being a viable translation. Optimus Prime probably is in an older language compared to the others. Megatron might be a literal translation since neutrons are universal and Mega just denotes a number.
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>>93123304

...That fits his manga characterization.

>>93123438

It's not what I meant, buddy. They ARE hypermasculine, AND this can be interpreted as hyper-gay. Which they kind of are: where are the 'hetero' relationships?

>TFW relationships between a 'male' and a 'female' transformers are viewed as outlandish and immoral by at least some 'bots

>>93123465

Well, how would you have done it? Epically?

Bet your balls this gets lampshaded when Overlord shows up again.
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>>93087854
Well, they are not humans. Obviously.

When you live that long you live several lifetimes of several different people as you change.
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>>93123549
>only a few characters have a distinct "voice" now?

Back in 2013 when he started the whole "teasing" of lines from the comic I could always 100% guess who said what line.

I literally cannon do that anymore. Everyone sound exactly the same.
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>>93123545
>Can Deathsaurus redeem Star Saber? What about Victory Leo?
That would be sweet but judging by the fact that Roberts made this Star Saber based on the evil, lunatic crusader Star Saber from his Transformers fanfic from way back when, I doubt it.
'Wonder how that fanfic ended because it could give us a hint at what's to come.
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>>93123590
>Lemonpuff
That's a fucking great name
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>>93123590
LEMONPUFF.
Now I really wish this was Bumblebees actual name.
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>>93123652
I believe in Lemonpuff Prime
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>>93123697
Lemonus Prime is his upgraded form's name.
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>>93123590

But a million neutrons is almost nothing.

Maybe it's like classic Native American names.

"Little yellow scout who has more courage than strength"
"One who leaps off a tall precipice without looking (because he doesn't give a fuck)"
"He who stalks his prey quietly and surely"
"Dark-mooded one whose massive jaws, upon closing, never release their prey"
"He whose mind is as a swirling vortex"
"He who appears handsome as a shining star but has a voice like a whining gear"
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>>93123549

it also bothers me how characters like Chromedome and Rewind don't have much to do, they're nearly complete as characters.
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>>93123590
Old Cybertronian translating to Latin, then?

>>93123627
>...That fits his manga characterization.
exactly what I was thinking.
After throwing an unexpected curve ball with Star Saber being a psycho, they go full Manga Deathsaurus. I wonder if he already has a waifu and kids?
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>>93123733
>He who play with himself
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>2017

>There is no Transformer named Jackknife
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>>93123767

Because Roberts thinks a character's personal quest can only end in death or being exiled into nothingness. They feel like that because he doesn't know what to do with them.

In fact I think he legit doesn't know what to do with ANY of the characters, they have all become samey, have no bacgrounds anymore and the plots they had are now solved so he has nothing else for them to do so they just hang around because he thinks people want them to be around because they are "the main characters".

Back in season 1 of MTMTE I tough that we'd have a new crew every season. Some characters would die, some character would go away, some new characters with new plots would come along. I tough it'd be a rotating cast with only the big names like Rodimus and Magnus being constantly around. That was the charm of using Z list characters nobody but die hard geewunn autists cared about, you could literally do whatever you want with them.

But for some reason James became too scared to kill off any of them and too incompetent to have their stories end in any other way so now they all hang around in the background doing jack shit. All the while he continues to pump in new characters that have all the uniqueness of a stool
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>>93123966
He should have the Mutiny ship find the Knights or lack of it while Rodimus and company have been going on silly side-quests like usual and then when they catch up, Rodimus feels bummed he lost his purpose and gets given a scrap piece of paper with Megatron's judgement written on it.
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>>93123769
>I wonder if he already has a waifu and kids?

I doubt it unless they made Esmeral from one of the colony homeworlds.

also Leozack and Lyzack would have to be from another colony world too since they're siblings.
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>>93123966
>tfw he killed Trailbreaker and Skids who are the only characters in the main cast who definitely still had more left to be explored
What a waste.
Also a rotating cast is such a good idea. Seeing a few LL characters migrate to OP and vice-versa would be interesting. You know as much as a lot of people seem to hate Earth based stories, it does constantly give the characters new shit to deal and work with.
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>>93122091
>The DJD was a remnant and it needed to be destroyed; Megatron's final act of murderous violence, the destruction of a monster he himself created.
See I understand this, and yet something about seeing the DJD die as props for Megatron's character transformation strikes me as off. The story has a point in that they where at least partially self-volunteering props and yet it still bothers me and I can't put my finger on it.

On the whole while I like the idea of Megatron getting an redemption arc, it always feels as though it's happening because Megatron is an icon of the Transformers franchise and is beloved by all. If a character turned up in with the equivalent background and the equivalent actions but as a side character; they'd never get the same shot at redemption.
That's why I'm looking forward to Megatron and Starscream meeting again. I know some on this board want Megatron to show up and awesomely kick Starscream's ass because that is one of the rules of the Transformers franchise, yet I don't think they can do that without negating Megatron's change.
Starscream is one of the few characters with enough popularity power to stand as his own character against him and not become another Decepticon symbol for Megatron to take down.
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>>93123966

Yeah I agree with you, Season 1 and some of Season 2 worked for me because they had new characters/obscure characters, every getting a shot but after a while it just became sterile.

I mean I think it could have been nice if Chromedome and Rewind stayed behind in the functionist universe to live a more quiet life.
>>93124053

I like the idea of Getaway and the mutineers doing all the obvious fast paced leads but get nowhere while Rodimus bummed out doing all the silly side quests ends up finding the Knights first.
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>>93123769
>I wonder if he already has a waifu and kids?
Could have a waifu in Esmarel if she was a wandering Camien he came about and conjuxed. Kids however? I'm almost certain IDW Transformers have no sense of parenthood, the only one who did was Tarantulas and I'm pretty sure he was seen as even more of a degenarate because of that and how much of an "organic" thing it is.

All that being said Solon's mech WAS in the background in Deathsaurus' army but it probably won't be his son.
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>>93124109
>Also a rotating cast is such a good idea. Seeing a few LL characters migrate to OP and vice-versa would be interesting. You know as much as a lot of people seem to hate Earth based stories, it does constantly give the characters new shit to deal and work with.

Oh man totally this.

I'd love to have seen more Cons onboard the Lost Light. Octane or Tall Tankor and maybe Fat Tankor too.

as much as I love Ratchet here, it would have been cool if he went back to Optimus.

seriously talk, how would you change rosters if you could choose cast swaps?
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>>93124096
Just have them be male then. You people are too hung up on genders.
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>>93124261
>seriously talk, how would you change rosters if you could choose cast swaps?

From LL to OP:
-Chromedome and Rewind
-Ratchet, if he hadn't just returned.
-Nightbeat since there's so much weird shit coming back from the past to once again haunt Cybertron and Earth. However there's plenty also happening on the LL and I feel the story would suffer without him there.
>Just give OP Roller since clearly you'd rather focus on Anode and Lug, James.

OP to Lost Light is actually a bit more difficult since most of the cast between OP and TAAO actually feel vital.

OP to LL
>Wheeljack
>Flatline
>Octane
>Cliffjumper
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>>93124613
>>Just give OP Roller since clearly you'd rather focus on Anode and Lug, James.

OH GOD THIS.

Optimus would be thrilled to know his old buddy is back.

again based on how very little time has passed, I assume Lost Light is still in 2016 while Optimus Prime is in 2017.

If they got into contact with Prime, we would have known.

Yeah Roller would benefit from being in Optimus Prime more. Him finding out what happened to Optimus would be great.

>>93124613
>OP to LL
>>Wheeljack
>>Flatline
>>Octane
>>Cliffjumper

Wheeljack was suppose to have Brainstorm's role originally funnily enough.

also what happened to Cliffjumper, i'd love to see him again. He could be like a perfect hybrid of Ultra Magnus, Red Alert and Whirl all in one.
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>>93124786
>Yeah Roller would benefit from being in Optimus Prime more. Him finding out what happened to Optimus would be great.
That and judging by all the sketchy stuff Prime has done lately I feel Roller would make for an excellent moral compass to turn to.
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>>93124096
I'll have it, Deathsaurus&co going full MANGA.

>>93124192
Deathsaurus ends up adopting the Headmaster Jrs in lieu of Overlord.
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>>93125434
>tfw this went from being one of my most hated ships to one of my favorites thanks to TAAO
I think Windblade is the only other person Starscream has ever sincerely praised in this continuity besides Wheeljack.
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>>93093018
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1061888281&ref=list

Found it if someone buys it...please post scans
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>>93093042
I thought tumblr liked Zoner? She draws porn of knockout after all.
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>>93125782

Tumblr loves artists when they draw dude robots getting fucked.

Tumblr HATES artists when they draw girl robots getting fucked.
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>>93125893
That makes honestly no sense tumblrinas tend to be bi Zoner draws girl and guy robots getting fucked, tumblr doesn't like Zoner

Then again this is tumblr we're talking about so
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>>93125926
It's probably because the girls getting fucked are feminine and curvaceous.
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>>93125659
Technically Megatron when he couldn't say his name without stuttering. But yeah I like it as a ship. Mostly as a they could be friends kinda ship. Screamer has way too many trust issues about everything to be ready for a romantic relationship to have anything good come from it.
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>>93087854
He doesn't have his robo waifu at his side right now so Megatron is still best boy, he did nothing wrong and deserves to be happy.
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>>93100563
>tfw hate all the characters in this comic so much have no problem siding with Getaway
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>>93126005
Isn't that how they already look in canon?
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I haven't read any of the TF comics but I just wanted to say that I hope they let Starscream win, or be treated nicely sometimes. I'll take him being treated nicely once even.
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Point me to the porn, I want it.
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>>93125434

Remember how Starscream was forced to become more heroic after he stole the Matrix and used it to become super-powerful?

Maybe this is a slower version of that.

>>93126028

I wonder why Starscream joined the Decepticons in the first place. We have so little backstory on him.

My headcanon - wayyyyyy back when - was that Starscream was the Liege Machimo's attempt to recapture the perfection he had made in Megatron, but he just fell short... except in one regard: his hate, a hate that burned so bright his spark could never be extinguished...
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>>93125434
If the Windblade figures weren't so terrilbe, I'd have my figures shipping this, instead of Starscream and Arcee.
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>>93110837

First, the Functionists never found the actual Matrix. They just murdered Nominous alongside the Senate and took the fake Matrix.

In my view the biggest issue with the Functionist AU is that - Anode aside - there weren't any actual copies of people we knew in that AU that didn't die horribly or were just cameos.

Raising Metroplex? That would have been awesome, and a good way to change the status quo quite a bit.

Or having Chief Judge Tyrest or Ultra Magnus show up, even as enemies. Or Dai Atlas and Shockwave, who probably would have bailed on the Senate just after the vote to seal away the Matrix. Heck, why not Functionist Hot Rod? Dude was pretty clever in Autocracy, he could have had a few cool moves to pull in this.

Or people who would have joined the Decepticons had they existed. You know the Seeker trio, Triple Changers, fucking Overlord...

Or they could have included some colonists, like Functionist Windblade (now no longer allowed to be a cityspeaker), the Mistress of Flame, Nautica...
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>>93126414
Of all the characters to not even try to give a backstory, Starscream is the most baffling. I'd even go so far as to say that he's the one that people want to know about the most.
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>>93126494
If the divergent point was long before the war, then it stands to reason many of the characters never came to be in the first place.
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>>93122955

Hedonia had a plot purpose, though. We were introduced to the Stentarians and their Cybertronian parallels (anyone else think that Primus had a kid brother named Secundus who just HAD to make his metal-people better?).

Whirl killed the Terradore equivalent of Optimus Prime, and the Terradores stopped fucking around. So the Ammonites, in their desperation, turned to Soundwave, and so they became part of the Dark Cybertron plot.

>>93109648

What chick was that?

>>93126617

That's true, anyone who was constructed cold after the war's start couldn't exist due to the military campaigns no longer occurring.

That said, everyone I've named existed before the war, or exist independently of it. There was no actual "whoah, that's a different version of X!", or "hey, Y is alive here!".
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>>93123966
>James became too scared to kill off any of them
As some one who's favorite characters were Pipes and Skids, go fuck yourself.
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>>93125782
zoner threw a major bitchfit on tumblr and everyone decided shes a cunt
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>>93126531
I forget which writer it was that said it but they explained no one wants to touch Starscream's backstory for fear of fucking it up. There are too many fans of his and everyone has a different idea of what it should be that no writer wants to be the one that "ruined Starscream" forever.
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>>93091147
My favorite KO moment is when Bulkhead becomes autistic and scribbles on Knockout's paint.
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>>93127087
Elaborate, if you will.
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>>93126461
Thiccblade incoming.
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>>93127781
I don't think her articulation will support a birdal carry.

Plus I'm concerned that she'll look out of place next to Prime Scream.
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>>93123697
Can somebody shoop this logo into the obvious?
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>>93127665
i vaguely remember when the arcee and windblade covers came out some people asked her why she drew windblade like a scared sexy child and why arcee was drawn at the awkward angle she was and instead of answering the questions or saying that she didnt want to comment she exploded and blocked anyone who said anything negative and posted a long rant about how she was hired to the job and she could do what ever she wanted so fuck you guys
she deleted that post within a day or two and any evidence of the arguments but i think some of it is still floating around from the original posts of the covers if you really want to dig it up
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>>93127781
the face is ok but all the rest of it is ugly as fuck.
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>>93126023
>Windblade has those visions when plugging into the titan on earth
>One of them is Starscream hugging her and in tears or something, I guess?

They knew and they were pushing it, if for nothing more than the minor amount of sales it would generate from deplorable shippers like me.
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>>93126461
I just can't stand the RiD2015 figures. Some of them are good molds and then they ruin it with a fuckhuge badge.
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>>93127134
Understandable but that's also easily remedied. Go back to his roots and make him scientifically curious but stuck in the air force because he's a fighter jet. Ally with the decepticon cause and have him be too fond of having a leadership role and actually doing things in Megatron's organisation. Don't need to spice it up much more than that. Oh, and make him friends with Jetfire.
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>>93127931
>not wanting thicc transformers with killer thighs
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>>93128339
In IDW we know he was on the senate (or very, very closely involved) along with a bunch of other tiny details that you just know would triggered the autists to no end if even one was forgotten. So even as easy as it seems, theres so much more to consider that most people don't even think about.
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>>93128339
The trouble is that everyone has a different headcanon for Starscream. How did he start out? Did he ever have good intentions? Was he always just a self-centered douche? Why did he join the Decepticons? If you provide solid answers, you might piss off a chunk of the readers.
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>>93128454
He was a delegate after killing the previous Senate. If he was on the Senate he wouldn't have needed Shockwave to kill everyone but Ratbat. After that he was probably a Decepticon delegate to Sentinel's new Senate as a ploy by Megatron to keep the option of political solutions. Starscream at one point did say he pushed Megatron for peace or an armistice several times and wasn't challenged on that. He might have gotten Megatron to give him the delegate responsibility on the chance of being able to recruit members of Sentinel's new Senate into the decepticon cause.
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>>93128713
Anon maybe you should write Spotlight Starscream.
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>>93128681
Personally I'd rather he start out as a somewhat good bot that's kinda selfish and more or less gets his aspirations crushed by the system. This leads him to Megatron who defies the system. Megatron gives him a role to change everything and he takes. And he should be a pathological liar as a defense mechanism before meeting Megatron to survive the Functionist systems in place.
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>>93128773
To be honest I've kinda wanted to write a fic that's mostly IDW in startup but just as soon as the civil war really gets going Quintesson's and whatever slave races they have attack and take Cybertron. The planet is effectively ruined and the Quints spend the next millions of years hunting and enslaving or killing cybertronians. Neither side is fully willing to ally to combat this threat and Starscream decides to betray Megatron. He goes to Shockwave for help, and asks him how long until they lose everything. Then colluded with Shockwave and his most trusted Seekers to get to cybertronian relics and colonies and make a fighting force that will either force an armistice between Autobots and Decepticons or retake Cybertron without them and rebuild it, thereby undermining Megatron.

At the point it splits from IDW I'd like to add in things from the history of TF I kinda like overall. And also if want it to shift between character perspectives between Autobots, Decepticons, and Starscream's more neutral faction. Thing is I'm afraid I'd fuck it up, and I don't know what bots to choose for Screamer's faction or even what colony I should have him go to first or even have the Primes involved...
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>>93127902
I also remember her going on a rant on twitter a while later about how "people you draw sexy women are an oppressed minority akin to gay people" which was wild.
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>>93122373
He searches up things like Megatron and lost light and mtmte as well to start passive aggressive shit with people. Then he has the nerve to get mad when people @ him instead of the other way around?
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>>93130913
Thats uhh...thats something alright. Maybe she's not all there upstairs.
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>>93130474
Dude you should totally write this fanfic I would read it %100.
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>>93131600
That's my guess. She's got some very interesting world views to put it lightly.
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>>93130913
Well hanging around on tumblr, I can almost understand how you'd start to feel that way.

I mean, if a woman wants to draw sexy women, she should be allowed to do it without getting bitched out. I mean, comparing it to the plight of gay folks is dumb as hell and painting a target on your forehead, but I can see how you'd be paranoid about it.
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>>93132106
Theres no way you can make a statement like she did and not be a totally self absorbed cunt, no excuses.
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Redpill me on Transformers
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>>93132106
>Well hanging around on tumblr, I can almost understand how you'd start to feel that way.
See I don't get this. I have seen people on tumblr be equally fine with male and female transformers sexytimes art. Genuinely! The only time I see issue is when certain things become too human-y and weird on the robots. That's where a lot of the disdain for this artist stems I think. Giving robots weird belly buttons, inflatable tits, etc. People find looking at that to be uncomfortable and I can't say I blame them. And it's not just about female transformers either. Tumblr caused an equal shitstorm over that time a dude drew what has been henceforth known as a "jelly dick".
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>>93132934
They're robots in disguise but there's more than meets the eye.
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>>93133219
>a dude drew what has been henceforth known as a "jelly dick"
Ahah I remember that. He then claimed it was the most logical way to draw transformers dicks because he was a guy and obviously only guys know how to draw dicks correctly (he seriously said this) and that everyone should stop what they're doing and only draw it like he did.
Dude was actually crazy.
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>>93132934
There are giant robots and sometimes they fight!
and sometimes they kiss...
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>>93133485
Yeah! It was wild. Peak tf fandom discourse if I'm honest. Right up there with the "do robots have buttholes?" discourse. Christ.
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>>93134416
>Right up there with the "do robots have buttholes?" discourse. Christ.
Man that one sure pissed of /y/, it was great.
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>>93098773
All right this page sold me. How do I get started on IDW transformers?
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>>93134607
I swear, /y/ is the easiest board to piss off.
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>>93132934
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/To_sell_toys
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>>93134607
Was this a recent thing? What exactly happened?
The phrase
> "do robots have buttholes?" discourse
conveys the general idea pretty damn well but maybe there's an archive link or something.
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>>93134653
Read this >>93110228.
And this is the reading guide >>93092018.
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>>93134653

https://zandergb.tumblr.com/post/47509563684/check-back-to-the-original-post-for-updates-before

mega:#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ

The Mega is there. You can also try http://readcomiconline.to/ but it does not have all the issues.
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>>93134888
>>93134913
Thank you.
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>>93134659
They are, they usually deserve it too.

>>93134817
A bunch of faggots got mad when people argued that transformers dont need buttholes, and these guys from /y/ went on a giant woman-hating tirade because "those damn tumblr fujoshits only draw porn they like, they never draw transformers with big juicy gaping buttholes like we want!" and continued on complaining how they should be catered to and tried to get the artists to never draw the tfs with more female anatomy down there. Keep in mind it wasn't that they tried to commission these artists and they said no, they were just complaining they weren't getting free transformer butthole porn. This was maybe 3 years ago and it's mostly died down now.
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>>93126908
>What chick was that?

Wingblade.

>Primus had a kid brother named Secundus

It WAS a weird contrivance. But in retrospect they were probably just an early offshoot. In the Hasbro age, Cybertronian history goes back billions of years rather than millions.

..Actually I suspect Micronus Prime. That little shit has left a trail of devastation across the galaxy and we haven't even seen official minicons yet...

>>93127781

They seriously need to come up with a better transformation schematic for her.

Or... make her a Seeker-type?

Bringing her back should be easy: Titans Return II.
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>>93130474
>I'm afraid I'd fuck it up

It is better to try and fuck up than to never have fucked up at all.

>>93135000
>A bunch of faggots got mad when people argued that transformers dont need buttholes

Okay, screencapped...
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>>93135350
>Wingblade.

Windblade.
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>>93135447

No, I'm pretty sure it was Wingblade.
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>>93135547
Okay, I can't help but audibly laugh.
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>>93135350
Minicons are dead, anon. Nickel is one of the few left.
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>>93135615
This is some Assassin's Creed shit we got here
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Well at least IDW's OP run is still pretty fun for me. Meanwhile TLK's coming and I'm already taking potshots on what the tomatometer's gonna be.
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>>93135631
what's the difference between a minicon and a minibot?
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>>93135715
...this requires research. Although minicons do traditionally enhance a larger bot or form a weapon.
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>>93135631

If she is a Minicon, and not just a Transformer of short stature, ie a Micromaster.

>>93135715

Minicons can join with their partner and give him or her super-powers - kinda like Titan Masters, but they kind of skipped over that entirely. Maybe they're saving the concept.

>A new Colony world is discovered
>Its inhabitants are all the size of humans and not very strong
>However, if they join with a regular Transformer, they together become an Outlier with unpredictable powers
>Starscream has multiple orgasm

>>93135615

As a fan of Dante Alighieri I was seriously offended.
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>>93135715
>>93135743
Ok so minibots are a you line. Cons are the characters.
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>>93135754
Remember the duobot in OP? Wonder what would happen if he got a minicon partner.
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>>93135631
>Minicons are dead
Oh damn...
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>>93135813
Better yet, they were left for dead by their prime, Micronus who went off to form his own miniature universe. He later begged Optimus to help save his universe because everyone in it is dying due to this energy storm- Optimus refused and went full "not muh Earth".
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>>93135841
This is why I side with Megatron, ultimately Optimus will abandon his role, as a prime.
Megs may be a tyrant, but at least he can protect his thralls.
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>>93135841
>. He later begged Optimus to help save his universe because everyone in it is dying due to this energy storm- Optimus refused and went full "not muh Earth".

Just read Revolution #3 and that's not true. It was a half 'Not muh Earth' at most.
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>>93135865
Eh.It's clear Optimus is going to have a major crash at some point, nearly lose hope, and then come back better than ever fulfilling his role as the arisen.
Cliche as that sounds I think it's the best thing they can do for him as a character since he's been depressed and uncertain about everything since his first appearance in this continuity.
>>93135912
>Just read Revolution #3
You mean the TAAO tie-in for Revolution.
It wasn't entirely "muh Earth" but it was still a dick move on his part. Though he does have every right to be suspicious of Primes. Especially since he knows the dirt on Micronus.
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>>93136009
>You mean the TAAO tie-in for Revolution.

No, I meant 'Revolution' #3.

Look. He goes from this...
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>>93136239
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>>93136245

Through this...
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>>93136259
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>>93136267

To this.
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>>93136239
This is less 'fuck their world'
and more 'we need more data, OH SHIT'
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>>93136391
The entirety of Revolution was just a series of "Oh SHIT" moments. Especially the ending. Karza is a beast.
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Oh yeah... that issue where Windblade was tied up and tortured by a sadistic submicroscopic baroness...
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>>93128681
I do kind of agree with them.

I always thought it's be fun to have a Spotlight where Windblade (whenever she get's back) and her cohorts go digging up dirt on Starscream and decide to start right in the beginning.

So they travel everywhere to speak to different characters that might know, but each one has a different story that sounds just about plausible for SS but wildly contradicts the others. One of them is grand in scale and another is quite mundane, one is tragic & sympathetic and the over dark and cynical, one says he was a scientist the other says nobility etc. Reflecting the different ideas you see in fandom and the different interpretations of his character you get.
At the end ominously realise they have no real idea where this bot came from, only the stuff he's been up to since then.

Then if a writer comes up with a good idea later they could give that then.
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Written by Maighread Scott.

Of course, this kind of scene is a staple.
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>>93136648

I support this 100%.

Kind of like 'Citizen Kane'.
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>>93136648
We are all Starscream when you get down to it
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>>93136674

Yeah, we WISH.
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Aaaand escape effected by means of faceless-but-heroic-slave.
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>>93136674
> We are all Starscream when you get down to it
His determination is levels above that of a 4chan user.
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>>93136776
Because Starscream is many of you put together instead of alone. Much bigger than a human-sized body.
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>>93136783
Stop making me feel good about myself anon, that's unhealthy.
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