It's a; >Smuggling people over the Mexican border is

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>>93076537
>It's a Lois is ok with her 14 year old son becoming the daddy of two rape babies and quitting school to support them
>It's not a joke, its the moral of the episode

Because it's centered around a single person, which /is/ a victimless crime

The only reason illegal immigration is a problem is because it's happening so much (now)

>>93076576

>When you push the agenda a little too far & people start to notice.

>>93076597

Mexicans aren't people.

>Alternately. Three people! Are babies not people to you? What are you some kinda baby hating monster?

>>93076653
No, they're not honestly

Not sure at what age I draw the line because I've never really thought about it before, but I don't think I would refer to a baby as a person

>>93076597
>Because it's centered around a single person, which /is/ a victimless crime
When they don't pay taxes, refuse to assimilate, take health care and takes a job that could be filled by a citizen, it's crime.

And then they contradict themselves with the part about the hole in the fence.

>>93076816
I didn't say it's not a crime, just that it really isn't an actual issue on micro-scale
And thus that creating stories about individual i-immigrants is misleading since they're not a problem individually, they only are as a group

It's the exact equivalent of taking a picture of 3 endangered animals in one place and using it as """"evidence"""" that the species isn't endangered because look there's three of em right there

>>93076816

>A Crime

It's multiple crimes. Come to think of it, didn't that cartoon bordertown get cancelled recently too? That was a Seth MacFarlane cartoon wasn't it.

>>93076999
>it really isn't an actual issue on micro-scale
>Islamic terror attacks are just a part of living in the big city, we need to get use to it
>If there weren't so many people coming into america to mail all their earnings back to their families in mexico it wouldn't be a problem
>it' isn't an actual issue on micro-scale

As someone who's had friends killed by heroine introduced into my town by illegals, I can't take you seriously. This isn't a message a cartoon should be encouraging.

>>93077084
>implying it's the dealers' fault your friends were retards
no offence

>>93076576
>she's gonna need both hands out stretched in the stock pose to justify this moral

>victimless crimes means it's okay to commit them

>>93076537
It's a anonymous complains about social issues post

>>93077084
Are you inferring I agree with the message? Because if so I strongly recommend that you make a second attempt at reading my post.

>>93076576

I turned it off right there.

>you can't raise a baby!

not

>These aren't your kids, this is illegal, you shouldn't drop out of school, this is going to bankrupt us, she may never come back for them, etc, etc.

>>93076537
its a>>93076653

>>im offended by this show doing jokes about opinions thread

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>>93077278
stay triggered, snowflake

>>93076597
Improper entry is a crime, a misdemeanor but still a crime, a felony for repeat offenses and I'm not sure but I think it was a repeat offense in the episode.

>>93077208
>>93077278
This.

doesn't matter what any of you think. the immigrants are the ones having the babies, so no matter what you do, you're all fucked regardless.

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>>93077346
At what point did having a criticism of something become synonymous with an infantile emotional breakdown? In a couple of years le triggered is going to be looked back on with the same embarrassment as trollface and ''u mad bro''.

>>93077369
>triggered
Enjoying your first week here friendo!

This is a bait and politics thread. MODS DELETE BEFORE OP GETS MORE (You)s.

>>93077524
>At what point did having a criticism of something become synonymous with an infantile emotional breakdown?
Right around the time you thought Family Guy was worthy of an in-depth analysis as a mean to justify your current ban on /pol/.

>>93077084
>As someone who's had friends killed by heroine introduced into my town by illegals,
Lol I bet you blame McDonald's for how fat you are.

>>93077524
>In a couple of years le triggered is going to be looked back on with the same embarrassment as trollface and ''u mad bro''.
Yeah if you have autism I guess

>>93077601
>Right around the time you thought Family Guy was worthy of an in-depth analysis
That is basically what Mr Enter does.

>>93077635
u mad bro?

>>93077635
Anon i am sorry to say it to you, be we all have autism.

>>93077524
It already is. The only people who haven't stopped finding it funny or still think it's edgy are so socially-inept that they'll keep using it until someone explains why they're the only one still saying it.
Eventually it will be hated by almost everyone, not because it's insulting but because everyone will start to associate it with all the awkward and embarrassing people in their life.

And then it will become a Hot Topic shirt.

>they smuggle these people over the border but then complain about how easy it is for people to get over the border

So the moral is that only certain Mexicans should get to break the law?

>>93077692
Say its not true, phoneposter

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Family Guy seems to hate the southern United States while American Dad doesn't. Weird

>>93078231
can't be anti illegal aliens when you have an actually ALIEN in the cast.

>>93077672
and he's a fucking tosser, what's your point

>>93078231

American Dad is pretty obviously a parody of the Republican party, Seth is pretty keen about mocking conservatives in his shows every chance he can.

>>93078507
well he grew up with pretty conservative parents and I wouldn't bat an eye if he was gay because of all the preaching he does on that shit or incest considering most of his casting choices for Brian's GFs have always been his sister, and his Sister plays Haley in American dad where they have had at least 3 episode humming on the idea of Stan and her doing it.

It's funny because nobody talk about the fence on Mexico's southern border to not allow the entering of Guatemalans and Salvadorans illegals, and the racism of mexicans to them.

also nobody talk about the fucking Cholos and their drug trades between the americano-mexican borders, it's like all illegals are gentle people with competent worker capacities and not just another losers who will spawn new filthy chicanos criminals on california.

Chicanos are not real mexicans, they are anglicized mestizos who behave like niggers, and illegals are mostly useless trash who don't even works to get a legal visa.

Why do most American liberals hate the idea of enforcing country borders? Do they really not see an issue with people moving in and living in a country without the country knowing or having them pay taxes with no background checks?

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>>93077084
>As someone who's had friends killed by heroine introduced into my town by illegals

>>93078778
American leftists have been brainwashed into thinking that there's literally no aspect to border control aside from irrational prejudicial hatred of people with different skin colours.

>>93077346
>>93077369
>look mom I learned a new word!

>>93076537
The worst thing about Trump's election is how insufferable everyone in the entertainment industry is right now. If him getting impeached would shut them up, I'm all for it.

>>93078778
>>93078809
I don't even like Trump but it's amazing that wanting to enforce a countries border laws means you hate Mexicans.

>>93078778
Because since i don't know what fucking year, some numerous people started to thinks all forms of order and authority are considered racism.
pure emotionnal but absolutly not any logical reasoning behind this.

>>93078842
Don't because it means they will do it for everything if it turned out to work.

>>93078847
I'm fairly certain liberals are just spiteful of the concept of nations at all, given all of weedman's insistence that FUCKEN LEAFnada is a "post-nation state".

>>93078891
>"post-nation state"
That doesn't even make sense.
What the hell?

>>93078876
Exactly. All we have to do is wait it out, they can't bitch forever.

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>>93078761
>Chicanos are not real mexicans, they are anglicized mestizos who behave like niggers, and illegals are mostly useless trash who don't even works to get a legal visa.

Can confirm, chicanos are a cancer that needs to be amputated.

>t. spic

>>93078778
>>93078847
>>93078778

Just for once I'd like someone to bitch about the 60,000+ illegal immigrant canadians in this country. Since 100% of the bitching is solely focused on the southen border, it does come off as a "I dont like brown people" thing.

>>93078842
You just made the case for anime. Politics in anime is rare. Even when politics is mentioned, the vast majority of the time it's Japanese politics and the US viewers are blissfully unaware.

>>93078914
The implication is that Canada is just some arbitrarily decided mass of land that shares the same federal government but has no national identity or real borders.

It's fucking nonsense and I wish we'd get rid of this massive retard. Justin Castro is a fucking joke.

>>93078934
That is because those are the ones that you see getting defended in the media. Both are wrong but again, which one does the media like to protect like in the OP.

>>93078778
>>93078809
>>93078847
>>93078855
We live in a post-globalized world. Having processes and procedures to get into a country is just fine, but if you seriously think you're going to keep people out with medieval shit like walls and fences you're sadly mistaken. If you're really that bothered by people staying here illegally, go get mad at some Irish people or something.

>>93078983
>B-but the media!

Form your own fucking opinions instead of being a reactionary, dude.

>>93079016
>/co/ is a board that talks about comics and cartoons
>Cartoon addresses Mexican illegal immigrants
>Wonder why that is what the discussion is about on /co/

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>>93078988
why not getting mad at some yiddish on new york city?

>>93078847
I know. You can't talk about it in any capacity without being branded a racist.

>It just makes sense that we know who is and is not entering our country for security purposes, since there are people who actively want to come here to do harm.
>RACIST!

>>93079081
English not your first language, Ivan?

>>93079107
>If my saxonic barbarian language is broken, it must be a mexican, becaus i'm self-centered.
>if my saxonic barbarian language is broken, it must be some slavshit, probably a russian because my burger paranoia is focused on them.
the world is big anon, very very big.
why /co/ believe there are only burgers on 4chan?

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Let's all come on and reply to the op, /co/!


WE'RE HAVIN' SLOPPY JOES!

>>93077524
It already is anon. It always has been

>>93077601
>The moment you thought a stupid cartoon was worthy of talking about
Where do you think we are

>>93078980
The best part is that Canada has stricter immigration policies than the USA and Canada is ranked 15th by number of refugees admitted per year while the USA is ranked 2nd.

>>93078778
Because their entire strategy for getting votes is appealing to the minority vote. It's estimated that they're going to outnumber whites eventually which is why they stopped focusing on them as they were pre 1970. Anyone who thinks that rich white left politicians care about helping the poc are actual idiots

>>93079664
>"we'll keep those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years!"

So what happens when minorities become large enough and successful enough that republican policies become more advantageous for them despite skin colour?

>>93079703
Most blacks actually are very conservative in every way that doesn't include welfare. I forgot the source but 80% of blacks don't like gays or mexicans, are very religious and hate trans people. Honestly, all republicans would need to get the black vote is going more pro Welfare.

>>93079703
I assume they're not intelligent enough to think that far ahead anon. Besides most of the politicians currently appealing to this shit will probably be dead by the time it becomes an actual problem for them

>>93079834
>>93079805
>poor people have been voting democrat for fifty years and they're still poor
>-Charles Barkley

>>93079896
Sounds like Democrats aren't far enough left to me. The people who want to take away accessible health-care and food stamps sure as fuck can't be any better, unless they can literally pull well paying jobs out of their ass.

>>93078934
Because you can hardly tell a leaf from any other American. They have almost the same culture and accent as legal Americans, where as spics turn the places they come into to Mexico 2 and refuse to integrate while sending American money back to Mexico.

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>>93076537
who gives a shit? american dad is exponentially better.

>>93078507
They can at least be funny about it. I'd say I'm generally right winged and american dad is still one of my favorite shows. Rarely does an agenda ruin an episode

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>>93078855
>>93079096
Liberals would accept the "we just want to enforce our borders" rhetoric but every time we believe right wingers when they say their ideology isn't racist, we wait a bit, and lo and behold they turn out to be totally fucking racist. For instance I see anti Mexican racism threads every goddamned day here but this would be the first time I have heard right wingers talk about border control in months, but apparently the right is just poor and misunderstood.

We are fine with border control, we just don't believe anything that comes out of your mouth.

>>93082985
What happens if people are racist but also right?

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>>93082998
Then they destroy their own legitimacy needlessly. People think politics is just being right but there is also the component of being able to lead those ideas with poise and without mixing them with retarded ideas. This is arguably even more important.

It is why Trump is hated so much. It isn't so much that people disagree with his policies(though that is a major factor). It's that he completely lacks the decorum and respect which is necessary for the office. No amount of rightness could overcome his shitheadedness.

>>93083096
See it's funny, based primarily on anecdotal evidence most people I know who support Trump specifically like his disagreeable nature and lack of decorum. I think that's probably just them being single-issue voters and seeing him as the backlash against PC culture candidate though.

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>Texas and California have a shit load of immigrants
>demand less federal aid than states like Mississippi
hmmmmmmmm.....

>>93083197
illegal immigrants*

>>93076653
Disregarding how fucking retarded you are for a sec, how about the fact that over 70% of us agriculture being performed by hispanics

>>93083124
Sounds like they're assholes who want to live vicariously through a successful asshole

>>93083254
It's always funny when im driving up the I-5 and I see a bunch of MAGA signs and Congress created the Dust Bowl stuff but right next to them is a bunch of really dark hispanic people working the fields who are no doubt illegal

>>93083197
some illegal immigrants know better than to vote.

they're content with simply not paying taxes and otherwise exploiting the kindness of naive individuals

>>93077084
As someone who’s never had this experience having lived on the border for the majority of my life I have to say I can’t take you seriously.

Aren’t personal anecdotes just great?

>>93083283
>the kindness of naive individuals
can you quantify that in any meaningful way so you don't sound like an idiot?

>>93077524
>In a couple of years le triggered is going to be looked back on with the same embarrassment as trollface and ''u mad bro''.
Good. Wake me up in a couple of fucking years because this meme was shit the day it came out.

>>93083283
>exploiting

You’re fucking cute you know that

You should look at this
>>93083254

>>93083283

They pay sales taxes, and a portion of their rent goes to pay property taxes for whatever housing they use.

In addition, those who work with a fake social security number (or just an ITIN) pay income and payroll taxes, due to the automated manner in which they are extracted from the paycheck.

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>>93083124
Which actually goes back to the point I made here >>93082985

We have a voter base which styled itself as the party of family values, honoring the veterans, and getting corporate fat cats out of Washington but voted in a Wall Street millionaire, lech who openly disparaged POWs.

The only thing of note left about him is his history with racism and comments about the Mexicans. Then supporters cheered a travel ban which stranded American citizens in foreign countries because it kept "terrorists" out even though the major sources of terrorism were left out of the ban. We are now supposed to swallow the idea that they are totally not racist and just want to make america great again, even though they proudly support a candidate who shares none of their values except for having strong opinions on the brown people. Also if you mention this disconnect in any way you are a coastal elitist or racist against white people.

>>93076999
That's like saying stealing isn't an actual issue on a micro-scale. If everyone stole an item from a store, there would be nothing left after all.

>>93083329
it's a way of life for someone who lives in a nation without documentation. either exploit people, be exploited or fuck off back where you came from.

and all the while, they're sending as much money as they can back to their own country. it's guerrilla economic warfare.

>>93083433
It's a clusterfuck on all sides because if you call them out on it all they have to do is point to Europe to justify their islamophobia

>>93083329
>>93083254
>70% of us agriculture being performed by hispanics
Post a source you lying faggots. Most agriculture is done by machinery and family owned farms. Spics only pick the shitty fruit that grows on trees.

>>93076537
Fuck Family Shit. MacFaggot doesn't know jack shit about all the border violence or the millions of Americans driven out of work, assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered over the years thanks to cheap illegal alien labor. All race baiting edgelord leftists like him care about is pandering to the racist anti-American Altzlan agenda. All his pretentious pseudo intellectual hipster bullshit yet he's still an idiot who knows nothing about the Hispanidad and tries too hard with MUH DIVERSITY. He portrays obnoxious beaner wetback caricatures not as something to laugh at but as something intended to be taken seriously as part of some SJW message, and as such is far more offensive and disrespectful than Trump or any anti-amnesty conservative could ever possibly be.

>>93083521
https://www.farmworkerjustice.org/sites/default/files/NAWS%20data%20factsht%201-13-15FINAL.pdf

I feel sorry for the earth's population
'Cause so few live in the U.S.A.
At least the foreigners can copy our morality
They can visit but they cannot stay

>>93078761
>It's funny because nobody talk about the fence on Mexico's southern border to not allow the entering of Guatemalans and Salvadorans illegals

Well, it doesn't seem to work.

>set up a fence on my backyard
>set up a sign in my backyard that reads "do not cross"
>people cross it anyway
>i get upset and call the police
>somehow i'm being racist

lol?

>>93083547
Kek. You lack reading comprehension. That stat says 70% of the workforce is illegal, not that 70% of farming is done by illegals. 1 dude in a tractor does infinitely more farming than 100 hand-pickers.

>>93083605
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanised_agriculture

You have a direction going to mechanized production but it’s not the majority untless you only eat tomatoes

>>93083669
>there are only 8 crops, most of them fruits
>what is corn?
>what is wheat?
>what is every variety of grain crop?
Are you actually retarded that you think most crop output comes from unskilled laborers?
>mobile poster
I should have known.

The only reason you are able to stay in a comfy room all day and shitpost is because the tractors and combines can harvest more food than people can ever consume, eliminating the need for people to live near farms and move into cities.

>>93083288
You don't shit in your back yard. Us on the border (except in Commiefornia) are usually safe when it comes to drugs, as we are the most patrolled areas for such things. Port cities, like Miami and the like, are where druggies want to go, they just have to boat/take land routes/fly (not as much anymore)

>>93082985
>/pol/
>representative of the right wing at all

>>93078950
Now if only they could do something about the terrible characters, stories, and visuals.

>>93083254
Yeah its a real fucking problem then isn't it

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>>93077084
>"As someone who's had friends killed by heroine introduced into my town by illegals"
I bet your type II diabetes was caused by the undocumented Mexicans working at McDonalds, too

>>93076537
The real joke is that she got deported

Before Trump that literally never happened. DHS was actually contracting transportation companies to take them anywhere they wanted to go, and it was proven they were being shipped to areas that would give them Driver's licenses so they could vote.

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>>93083483
This pisses me off so much. It's two entirely different issues, yet they insist José is going to jump that wall sporting a bomb vest or some shit.

The US and Mexico have had unregulated immigration as circular flow for decades. If anything, going full medieval has been the reason as to why there's so many illegal immigrants still in the country.

>>93084660
Pretty sure that's true. The US stopped having an open border with Mexico in the 70's. When it became harder to get into America any immgrant just stayed here. Most illegal immigrants didn't even cross the border illegally, they just let their green cards expire.

>>93084660
>they insist José is going to jump that wall sporting a bomb vest
No one says this. They don't want Jose in because of the drugs and gang violence he brings, the taxpayer money that's spent on him, the money he takes back home, and because "he took their jobs".

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>>93083483
>all they have to do is point to Europe to justify their islamophobia

That term doesn't really make sense, it's like calling someone firephobic because they don't touch a redhot stove, or calling someone deathphobic because they try to survive.

A phobia is an irrational fear, being afraid of something that wants to kill you and upend your society isn't rational

>>93085287
Irrational*, fuck.

why do people care about illegals when its nignogs who cause the most damage?

>>93076597
No, its not "its not a crime if only a few people do it" its "Its a crime because its against the law, and its a law because its a precedent for being bad in the past". Even if its only one its bad.

>>93076537

I don't see the problem with sending a mexican back home

>>93079508
Source? Because this is an interesting tidbit.

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>>93085287
>Austria, Poland, and Slovakia haven't been attacked
I think I have an answer for Austria and Poland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

>>93085234
Taxpayer money isn't spent on illegals. They're illegal because they're undocumented, ergo not part of the system. They themselves have to pay taxes while bein unable to reap any of the benefits.

I know you're brainwashed on this topic but illegal immigrants can't both steal jobs and be lazy and leech off of welfare at the same time.

>>93085637
The economy is more complex than that. By simply being present within the borders of a nation, they are taking advantage of a whole host of government funded infrastructure and programs.

Roads, nigger.

>>93085637
>libtard calling others brainwashed
That would be funny if I didn't see the joke every day.
First of all, I was listing the reasons why others wouldn't want illegal immigrants in their country, correcting the other anon's (You?) strawman about people not wanting them only because of terrorism concerns. I never said I agreed with any of those points.

Second, you're retarded if you think taxes just means welfare. Taxes go to infrastructure that they use, education that they take advantage of, and a whole other host of government programs. Also illegal immigrants get cash paying jobs to avoid a papertrail so the income tax doesn't apply to them.

Do you even try to take the other side's argument into account or do you just see yourself as a supremely educated gentlemen who is never wrong?

>>93076597
2 becomes 7 within a generation

>>93078231
Family Guy is made for people in the northeast while American Dad is a red state show

>>93085287
>That term doesn't really make sense, it's like calling someone firephobic because they don't touch a redhot stove, or calling someone deathphobic because they try to survive.
>A phobia is an irrational fear, being afraid of something that wants to kill you and upend your society isn't rational
Arachnophobia. There are plenty of arachnids who will fuck your shit if you get near them and some that won't bother you

>>93085637
how are so called "enlightened" liberals so catastrophically ignorant?

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>>93076537
>people trafficking is done by well meaning individuals for entirely altruistic reasons

>>93083982
You're right, most right wingers don't know how to use a computer.

>>93077524
Becuase people can't read emotion on text and if they are autistic enough they think any text that is disagreeing with the point must be mad and angry, thus you must be some emotional child that flips out when you disagree with shit.
Also these kids a thristy shitposters wanting (You)s in a real bad way.

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>>93086466
This spider is barely an inch across, and it's totally harmless, but thanks to the magic of HD photography, now the source of your nightmares

>>93086489
In the USA... maybe?

Over here in Europe it certainly isn't. The whole refugee trafficking industry is run by the Italian mafia, the Russian mafia and biker gangs.

Ironically, they also supply various terrorist organisations with weapons, drugs and medicine.

They're making billions off the war in Syria. And because the Russian mafia is involved, that automatically means that Russian government officials (not the Russian government itself) are making millions off the war in Syria.

>>93078311
Considering that Roger's antics are balanced out by the severe good he does for the family on occasion, I figure it's OK.

His relationship with the family is very kiss-kiss-slap, but as a whole Roger flies under the radar on Earth

>>93087060
>MUG RASHUNS
jesus fucking christ you are fucking retarded and/or incredibly diluted.
The vast majority of the people smuggling nonsense is done through the EU itself and NGOs funded by everybody's favourite Soros.
They patrol 12 miles of the coast of Libya just to ship them to Italy.

>>93076537
Its a
> /pol/ trojan horse
Episode.
We get that Trump winning makes you feel your shitty ethos has been validated but this here's a board for talking bout cartoons and comics.

>>93087217
>jesus fucking christ you are fucking retarded and/or incredibly diluted.
>The vast majority of the people smuggling nonsense is done through the EU itself and NGOs funded by everybody's favourite Soros.
>They patrol 12 miles of the coast of Libya just to ship them to Italy.
Hahaha, no.

Ever since the Russian economy crashed with no survivors and kept crashing with no survivors, the Russian plutocrats have been scrambling for new money.

For fucks sake. I'm not even a /pol/ack but America needs to get their shit toegether with illegals. We can't have millions of undocumented people coming into the country. That's a security risk. I'm also sick of these fucking spics coming into my job and tearing in the fucking place.

Blumpf better make good on his promise and send those fuckers back. I have no problem with them comng in but they need to come in the legal way.

Sadly America is doomed because neither the Right nor Left wants to do anything about illegal immigration because they both benefit from it. If Trump really wanted to do something about it then he would make a federal law that fucks employers for hiring illegals.

>>93087270
>Blumpf better make good on his promise
Hahahaha.
>If Trump really wanted to do something about it then he would make a federal law that fucks employers for hiring illegals.
Never going to happen. The Republicans would tear Flumph's soul apart.

>>93087270
America is never going to get it's shit together until an illegal Mexican commits something on the level of 9/11 and finally scares white people enough to get off their asses.

>>93087239
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-boat-rescue-charities-medicins-sans-frontieres-save-the-children-mediterranean-sea-migrants-a7699571.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/23/italy-prosecutor-says-rescue-boats-contact-people-smugglers/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39686239
russian biker gangs allright

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>be legal immigrant
>people lump you in with illegals anyway
>or asume you're pro illegal immigration

immigration in and of itself is kind of poison since it encourages people who could improve their countries to just abandon it and come to another country. But if you're going to do it, have the decency to wait in like like everyone else.

Also illegals are inherently criminals and associate with criminals because that's the only other way to get into the country, through back channel paths run by criminals. And since they come in illegaly they usually either steal identities or get involved in drug trade to get by, or have those oh so honorable and tolerant leftist companies hire them... just under the counter and for less, of course :)

Even other illegals and legals fuck over their own kind by essentially corralling them into small communities. You know, the pockets in america where you can only speak spanish. They encourage newcomers to take shitty jobs and be part of the problem and are usually buddy buddy with the mob. Its disgusting.

You either come to america to make an honest living with honest paperwork for an honest fucking future, or you're a crook, simple as that.

>>93076597
When it is only one person it is less of a problem, but it still is one, otherwise many people would not be a big problem either.

My country created Mexico the Philipines, Colombia, Puerto Rico and so on.

We also invented the name America.

>>93087295
#3, cunt. Piss off.

>>93087286
>Never going to happen. The Republicans would tear Flumph's soul apart.
Wait, republicans have voted against such egislation?

People can't batlantly be that hyppocrite.

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>americans bitch about illegals all day every day
>most of them will probably move to small south american countries once the next recession hits anyway

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>>93087318
>gets proven wrong
>get back to /po/
errytym

>>93087270
>m not even a /pol/ack but America needs to get their shit toegether with illegals. We can't have millions of undocumented people coming into the country.
dude, the whole point of America is to be a nation ofimmigrantwho can come have their own american dream and launch their own business/get a job in the land of freedom.

You can't go "nope, doesn't cont anymore, you can't have what we ben,efited from, it's too late fro your turn, now".

You think stopping immigration will resolve anything. It wiill only stop the law abidding one from coming. The criminal who want to hurt the country still will come anyway.

>>93083254
How about the fact that your agriculture sector can not compete internally or even turn a profit and is 100% artificially kept alive with tax payer money as a welfare program, in order to avoid a massive loss of jobs and votes. Your society would be better without it.

>>93079805
It'd make so much sense for the Right to appeal to blacks but they dont want to lose their racist hick voter base.

Hence why you get people like Trump doing the Southern Strategy while saying "huh? why dont blacks like me?"

>>93076537
>even being aware of the synopsis of a new Family Guy episode

Kys

>>93087326
What, and get murdered for being outsiders?

>>93087350
Do you not what overpopulation is? Do you not understand why illegal immigration is a security risk? Go back to tumblr. You want to be a bleeding heart so bad? Go live in those shitty border towns ruined by fucking illegal spics.

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>>93087350
>really believing the melting pot revision
>when it was only used as economic terrorism on foreign enemies to bolster the US economy while also fucking over the immigrants by just using them as cheap labor anyway

the problem is the people on healthcare are too numerous now, they werent meant to live this long and the addition of more and more immigrants is literally killing the country.

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>>93087295
>>93087328
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gangs-russia-ruthless-mafia-networks-extending-their-influence-1495644
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10567021/Syrias-civil-war-being-fought-with-fighters-high-on-drugs.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189802.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/refugee-smuggling-a-big-business-in-the-balkans-a-1051461.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/20/refugees-greek-camps-targeted-mafia-gangs
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/refugee-crisis-a-multibillion-dollar-honeypot-for-italian-mafia/article27186445/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/598655/Refugee-shot-smuggling-gangs-fight-turf-wars
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201512211032111168-turkey-mafia-refugees-boats-crimes-investigation/
http://time.com/4134503/mafia-millions-migrants/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mediterranean-migrant-crisis-human-smuggling-arranged-by-global-mafia-via-skype-whatsapp-1498209
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-and-italy-s-mafia-working-together-to-smuggle-cannabis-through-north-africa-into-europe-a6991451.html
https://samandimp.com/2010/07/02/powerful-russian-mafia-working-with-terrorists-and-drug-cartels/

Two can play the linkspam game. I win.

>>93087350

Do you not know what "undocumented" means, dipshit?

Regular immigrants are fine. Illegals are the problem.

>>93087366
>implying that happens

unlike america where anglos are getting cucked, most south american countries will give you more opportunity if you're white because spanish tradition, and even if you're not, you still have a ton of mestizos who've got your back.

If you're black you're stuck with the haitians tho

>>93083433
I'm saving this. This is is so goddamn true.

>>93087382
>Do you not what overpopulation is?
Somethign that is not chappening. Learn age cruves and age pyrmaid. Alsmot eveyr nation in the world are beyond their peak of nativity rate and is slowing down. Humanity will never reach 12 Billions.

Overpopulations was never goign to be a problem.

>>93087386
>the problem is the people on healthcare are too numerous now,
That's not a problem. the more there are on Healthcare, the better it work.
>and the addition of more and more immigrants is literally killing the country.
Most of them actually rjuvenile the working population, and were they legal, their taxes would actually help the retirement money.

>>93087394
>Do you not know what "undocumented" means, dipshit?
>Regular immigrants are fine. Illegals are the problem.
They are only illegal because the countryy make them so.

Let's say "undocumented" were only to pay a fine and to regularise their situation instead of being deported, it would result in a boodst of economy and tax-payer.

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>>93087390
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gangs-russia-ruthless-mafia-networks-extending-their-influence-1495644
>IT IS ALLEGED
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10567021/Syrias-civil-war-being-fought-with-fighters-high-on-drugs.html
this has nothing to do with people smuggling
>http://www.voltairenet.org/article189802.html
this has nothing to do with people smuggling; we as loyal US allies are obliged to arm various terrorist organisations that disrupt the regional stability
>http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/refugee-smuggling-a-big-business-in-the-balkans-a-1051461.html
this has nothing to do with the russian nor italian mafia; you retarded american
>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/20/refugees-greek-camps-targeted-mafia-gangs
greece is russia or italy now
>https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/refugee-crisis-a-multibillion-dollar-honeypot-for-italian-mafia/article27186445/
wow, it took you 6 links to finally find something that is on point?

>>93087457
>They are only illegal because the countryy make them so.

Were you born retarded?

Mexico is a disgusting cancer that needs to be removed. Or nuked.

>>93087483
>this has nothing to do with people smuggling
Yes it has. The same gangs that smuggle immigrants provide ISIS with drugs.

>this has nothing to do with the russian nor italian mafia; you retarded american
Yes it has. It's about the scale of the problem, you fucking retard.

>greece is russia or italy now
Where the fuck do you think the mafia comes from? Greek mafia? Hahahahah. The mafia in the Greek camps is either Italian or Russian.

Fucking learn how the world works, you retarded /pol/ Americuck.

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>>93087390
>http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/598655/Refugee-shot-smuggling-gangs-fight-turf-wars
england is russia or italy now
>https://sputniknews.com/europe/201512211032111168-turkey-mafia-refugees-boats-crimes-investigation/
turkey is italy or russia now
>http://time.com/4134503/mafia-millions-migrants/
wow, second on point article, I'm impressed
>http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mediterranean-migrant-crisis-human-smuggling-arranged-by-global-mafia-via-skype-whatsapp-1498209
wow, third italian mafia article, I will comment on that later
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-and-italy-s-mafia-working-together-to-smuggle-cannabis-through-north-africa-into-europe-a6991451.html
cannabis is not people
https://samandimp.com/2010/07/02/powerful-russian-mafia-working-with-terrorists-and-drug-cartels/
this is an article pre-dating the syrian war/migrant crisis, based on a 1993 (!) report

I never contradicted you on the Italian mafia thing in the first place. In your bitch-fit you made yourself to look like a dumbass posting articles on how criminals from BULGARIA, TURKEY, GREECE AND THE UK, 4 nations that are clearly not RUSSIA OR ITALY abuse the migrant crisis.

>>93083433
>Implying being racist against people illegally entering your country is in anyway relevant
fucking dropped

>>93087574
>he actually thinks the russian and italian mafia only operate in their respective countries

Hahahaha.

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>>93087616
>the mafia is exclusively a russian or italian thing
>mafia is never used to refer to an organised criminal organisation in another nation
>>93087535
>/pol/ Americuck
ooga booga, where da wyte women at

>>93087588
You literally just missed the entire point of his post.

>>93083433
>The only thing of note left about him is his history with racism and comments about the Mexicans.
You are absolutely retarded if you think the only reason Trump got elected was because of racism.

>>93087667
Shouldn't you be busy stealing TV's in the UK or some shit?

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>>93087698
Well, Trump mostly got elected because he promised to fix the Rust Belt.

Hahahahahah. Hahahahahahah. Hahahahahah.

Which he will. If he fucking nukes it. Hahahahahah.

>>93087719
>Rust Belt.
I still don't understand how anyone could look at those backwoods hicks and say "Yes, these people are worth catering to". The Midwest has literally nothing of value, and nobody would care if they all got swept up in a tornado or something.

>>93087235
>It's a person who can't understand that if a cartoon becomes about politics it can be talked about on /co/ episode
This is easily my least favorite part of the show.

>>93083288
>Aren’t personal anecdotes just great?
Ive always found that to be a really frustrating argument. One the one hand, I get it, people can easily fabricate stories to support their points, but on the other, if personal experiences can fuel our own opinions and decisions, then what does?

>>93087763
>I still don't understand how anyone could look at those backwoods hicks and say "Yes, these people are worth catering to". The Midwest has literally nothing of value, and nobody would care if they all got swept up in a tornado or something.

And that's what lost you the election. A lack of compassion. Sociopathic dismissal.

>>93087763
kill yourself, faggot.
You probably don't contribute anything, yourself

>>93083096
No fuck that. Playing decorum and allowing the left some moral highground gets us Cologne Rape Parties and MS-13 in our backyards. Civic nationslism only gets us to the mush rubes that much faster. Culture is blood and soil and much as idea, and some cultures are better than others.

You don't get to pretend 'dat's raciss' is an argument anymore. Everything is racist these days, it's time you tell me why racism is a bad idea when all the good ideas are racist to you.

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>MFW Reading another "BOO HOO, ICE DETAINED AN ILLEGAL WHEN HE WAS DOING SOMETHING" and being incapable of giving a fuck
They can't arrest you if you don't illegally break into a country

>>93077084
Was your friend sick on the rain day they played "cartoon all-stars to the rescue" or was the Mexican dealer just THAT good of a salesman?

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>>93087350
Yeah, the US has never had any immigration standards whatsoever and we always just wantonly let in every miserable faggot who dreamed of apple pie.

>>93083433
>Also if you mention this disconnect in any way you are a coastal elitist or racist against white people.
See>>93087719 >>93087763

>>93087938
>I value all human life, especially the racist redneck Klansmen in Iowa!

>>93087949
At least I don't fuck my sisters and pretend the resulting incest babies are A-OK.

>>93089394
>the left still thinks demonizing the rural working class is a winning strategy
Looks like we're getting 8 years after all.

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>>93076537
>the border between Rhode Island and Mexico

>>93089131
Wait, if the US isn't about wanting miserable faggots in, then what the hell are you doing here?

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>>93088962

>>93089521
>Savas
More like Savage.

>>93089439
>implying that's not our goal
if we cold ensure trump control america for the next hundred years we would.

>>93089439
Rural Americans can fuck goats for all I care so long as they remember their place in the hierarchy and don't try to foist their backwards bullshit onto the civilized world. The fact that they were a major part of Trump's success in the election is an absolute fucking travesty, hence why they should not be allowed to have any opinions in national elections.

>>93089773
We should just make it so a few hundred richest individuals controlled the government so now matter which 'revolutionary' was elected it wouldn't change shit.
Oh wait.
Your elitism has already reached its natural conclusion and no theatrics will mask that fact.

>>93078507
They dropped that concept pretty early. Like 2nd season
Stan is just your typical chauvinistic father who is also apart of the CIA

>>93083433
>We have a voter base which styled itself as the party of family values, honoring the veterans, and getting corporate fat cats out of Washington but voted in a Wall Street millionaire, lech who openly disparaged POWs.
I'm pretty sure they want more control over their lives and better jobs. Mexicans are a boogiman for the job thing, and 'liberals' are a boogiman for the control over their lives. The reason the border was such an effective tool to generate votes is because they could combine the two things by point out sanctuary cities.

>>93076816
It's the opposite actually

Most illegal immigrants actually pay taxes but never are able to collect any of the benefits.

"Every year, the Social Security Administration collects billions of dollars in taxes that it doesn’t know who paid. Whenever employers send in W-2 forms that have Social Security numbers that don’t match with anyone on record, the agency routes the paperwork to what’s called the Earnings Suspense File, where it sits until people can prove the wages were theirs, allowing them to one day collect retirement benefits."

>>93077084
>someone who has had friends killed by heroine
Your friend shouldn't have taken heroine then. Blame our medical system for leaning on painkillers so much. There would be no supply if there was no demand

>>93076537
Seth MacFarlane is a raging turbo liberal, what did you expect?

>>93090089
Why isn't the employer running the SSN to make sure it's valid? You can't legally hire someone unless it is.

>>93077084
>killed by heroine
Motherfucker killed himself by doing heroine. That heroine didn't do a damn thing.

>>93085287
It becomes irrational when someone starts screaming at a Muslim on a bus then stab bystanders that try to get them to fuck off.
Islamophobia is real. I just wouldn't call your garden variety rednecks who are just all talk islamophobes.

>>93090145
>You can't legally hire someone unless it is.
Small businesses?

>>93090145
$$$$$$$$$
It pays to "overlook" this discretion. You now have someone who cant complain and will work for slave wages.

>>93090089
You are confused. Welfare programs are not the only thing governments spend money on. The roads that allow illegal immigrants to travel from place to place are paid for with taxes. The police who investigate crimes and enforce laws are paid for with taxes. The military that keeps the nation from being invaded by Russia is paid for with taxes. They are absolutely taking advantage of taxpayer money while necessarily not paying what they owe.

All of which is moot because they shouldn't be in the country in the fucking first place.

>>93087885
Statistics

Only random sample surveys of populations, with higher participant counts and double blind tests can be accepted


I get why personal anecdotes shape our views and opinions but it crosses over when you're presented proof, or at least a more reliable representation of reality based on the accumulation of many randomly chosen account, and don't change your own views

When presented with the possibility that your experience was an outlier and you refuse to entertain that potential situation,that's when it becomes an issue

A classic example is how registered voters near southern Texas tend to be more liberal than those in the northern districts. Why? Because they tend to know a lot of illegals and they are more likely to know them as people rather than laborers

Inversely, voters in northern Texas are more likely to either not see illegals or to see them only in the context of being cheap laborers and form a different anecdotal experience. Neither of them have a wholly accurate understanding of the situation

>>93089521
Nice.

>>93090145
The employer doesn't have that obligation. It's an extra process that might cost them a newly filled position

They accept the labor for its cost, fill out the forms for the payroll tax

>>93083283
Kelly?

>>93090164
Small businesses still need to verify SSN of their employees.

>>93090196
That's all true but if we're debating over who deserves to use the road, the rich should be using them 50% of the time since that's about how much they paid for it.

Rich people should be entitled to using 50% of all federal public projects where everyone else gets to use it the exact amount that their income bracket allows for

Second of all, congress regularly dips into social security to pay for all manner of public projects, it's one of the big issues that a couple of candidates discussed since they're flippant spending of what's supposed to be an untouchable account is why they're having to debate whether to raise the retirement age or increase social security taxing. Illegal immigrant dosh has likely been used to help subsidize public works projects

Two facts that both sides need to acknowledge.

>Every country has a right to enforce its own borders and determine who can and cannot enter. It is like choosing who is allowed into your home. It is a fundamental right.

>If illegal immigrants came from another white, english speaking country, like Canada, Americans wouldn't give a fuck and there would not be nearly as much uproar.

>>93090445
>>If illegal immigrants came from another white, english speaking country, like Canada, Americans wouldn't give a fuck and there would not be nearly as much uproar.

Yeah, because failing to integrate into our culture is one of the reasons we don't want them here. I'd much prefer polite, illegal canadians than a mexican who can't speak english and lives in a glorified ghetto.

>>93090445
I'm not saying you can't protect your borders but the right makes it into a moral issue beyond that.

Just say you don't want to let poor people into your country, just admit it beyond saying they're leeches or don't contribute to this country.

Like stronger border security is fine, I like Rick Perry's solution better where you use a more high tech solution to find people who come over the border itself illegally.

>>93090479
Most illegals are integrated. They come over on visas and just never leave but they integrate over the period that they were allowed under their visa.

>>93090445
We already don't care about illegal immigrants from Canada. We have an open border with Canada so it's real easy to enter and exit the US from there. A lot of people crossing don't have or have expired green cards but no one cares because they are not obligated to stay for long and usually don't. I heard that one or two years ago there was more illegal immigrants coming from the northern border than the southern one but I don't have a satisfact to snack that up.

>>93090536

Bullshit. I worked as a teacher in a town with a large hispanic population, and about 50% of the kids who were considered "challenge" students were actually just the children of immigrants who couldn't speak fucking english.

>>93090593
>Bullshit, here's my anecdote.

>>93090445
I have never met a leftist who thought that the border should be unmonitored or open. Ever. They just want immigration reform and the ability for long term illegals to find a way to citizenship.
Its just more right wing bullshit.

>>93090536
As someone who grew up in a border town, BULLSHIT!
The ones who DO integrate are fine, but that's not MOST of them. Most of them are exactly what the conservatives think they are. Criminals who don't give a shit about others.

>>93090618
So, at their rallies, when they say things like 'NO BORDERS!' they're just lying?

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>>93090611

Oh right, I forgot baseless assertions beat anecdotes, my bad.

>>93090593


What kinda fucked up backwards school system you have that lumps challenged students with those that need ESL classes?

>>93090657
Don't blame me because you thought "I-I SAW IT" was a good argument.

>>93090641
Their just extremists. Just like how you guys have a problem with people hitler saluting in public, we also have our retards.

>>93090659

A poor one with lots of children of illegals.

>>93090629
>The ones who DO integrate are fine
And how do you tell the ones who integrate and follow the laws from the ones who don't respect the law and are criminals?

>>93076537
It's a;
>Smuggling /pol/ threads over the /co/ border is a victimless crime episode.

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>>93090675

Still not hearing any counter examples other than "Nuh uh" so pic related

>>93090687
When cartoonists stop shoving politics into cartoons you'll stop seeing /pol/ threads.

>>93090629
That's just how mexicans are. There are Mexican's whose families have been here since before any white pioneer stepped foot on the land, but that doesn't stop from being poor and a piece of shit. Just like black people, it's just a type of person you have to deal with.
t.mexican

>>93090699
The burden of proof is on you, my meme image friend. I have nothing to prove here.

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>>93090728

You're the one saying they're integrating, so the burden is firmly on you here.

>>93090747
>You're the one
How embarrassing.

>>93090752

I don't even know what you're implying I typed wrong there. You're is a valid contraction of "you are."

>>93090725
There have been white families, rednecks and white trash, that have also been poor their entire lineage.

It's all mostly located in the south though.

>>93090778
There's more than one person in this thread.

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>>93090861

I see, so instead of anyone actually refuting my claim you try to discredit it because the format of the website we're using makes it impossible to tell when you're having a conversation with more than one person and criticizing my use of a single pronoun instead of a plural one. 10/10, clearly I was wrong /s

>>93085348
Autism. Your president is breaking the emoluments clause, and laws don't matter anymore.

I'd happily replace 1 million Trump voters with twice that many illegals.

Who cares if mexicans integrate?

Mexicans should be trying to make Mexico great again not trying to turn America into Mexico.

Id rather mexicans not integrate with america because our culture is degenerate and disgusting jew created crap.

>>93090963
>I'd happily replace 1 million Trump voters with twice that many illegals.
Do you think of the long term?

Mexicans are not your friends they are human meaning racist, mexicans want a land of only mexicans in it meaning your white butt is on the chopping block once they get enough government power. You will see apartheid in America only spics will live in the nice areas while we whites will be dumped into shitholes along with blacks and be given zero human rights at all.

>>93089439
You know Trump isn't getting re elected

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>>93091069

He is if the left doesn't get it's shit together.

>>93091069
thats the mentally that allowed him to get elected.

>>93091025
Mexicans don't even like being near other Mexicans.
t.Mexican

>>93091082
Racial tribalism is a powerful instinct, and spics do like living around their own kind since there are hispanic majority areas in America.

>>93090705
Thats been going on since the beginning of human civilization faggot

>>93091079
It's Hillary being a shitty candidate that allowed him to get elected.

We need to have a spic Holocaust.

>>93091282
Well of course, but people underestimated Trump as well. No one saw it coming, really

t. Didn't vote for anyone, thought Hillary would win

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>>93091282

Seriously, as bad as Trump can be, never forget that Hillary ran a campaign so bad that she *lost* to Trump.

Why is /pol/ blue now

>>93091325
She got too cocky and it blew up in her face. As a rule of thumb; don't make your campaign slogan all about how the people are with you instead of the other way around.

Why is Mexico always depicted in media as a barely functioning third world shit hole?

I've been across Mexico from Yucatan to Point Banda.and I travelled by perfectly fine highways from town to town stopping at theme parks and day spas and resorts and hotels.

It's got a slightly higher homeless population and they warn you about water born parasites in the tap water that may or may not give you the squirts. But apart from that it's pretty comparable to the United States.

>>93091125
People also hate what is almost like them, but not quite like them. This is why we have all these internal racial divisions and feuds.

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>>93079081
>tfw williamsburg
kikeville USA

>>93091923
Parts of it are fine (and those are probably the parts you saw/the parts there isn't much illegal immigration from), but other parts are barely functioning third world shit holes ruled by gangs and/or lamas.

A few years ago, there was a big protest against having basic standards for teachers, because while most of them would pass easily, some places are so shitty they don't have teachers who can do basic math or science, and it's not fair to them to fire the only people willing to teach anything at all.

>>93091923
we kinda are, there extreme poberty in the country, paradoxically, this normally is next to the extrem rich, and in the north of México is more notorious, so basically is what USA can see of us above the borderwall without getting in

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>>93087363
the one thing that divides people more than anything is economic issues, not social ones. blacks align with the republicans on most core social issues, but because republicans would cut the gibs they don't vote for them. if the republicans offered more gibs, they'd lose their core white base who don't want to pay for tyrone and shaquanda's 23 crack babies. gaining the black vote at the cost of the white vote is not worth it in any circumstance.
things clearly haven't gotten much better for blacks under gib friendly democrats, but because the gibs keep coming, so do the votes.

>>93091923
Because it is, all of the fancy stuff you see is due to the nearly white elite in Mexico wanting some tourism money, the actual native spics live in crime ridden hellholes.

>>93092196
>blacks align with the republicans on most core social issues
> blacks align with the republicans on most core social issues

Translation:Blacks align with anything that helps blacks

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>>93092246
i can't really blame them for doing so, but all i'm saying is calling for republicans to pander to nogs is stupid and a waste of campaign money.

>>93083096
>No amount of rightness could overcome his shitheadedness.
i don't agree. if you're right, you're right, even if you're a dick about it.

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>>93087350
>dude, the whole point of America is to be a nation ofimmigrantwho can come have their own american dream and launch their own business/get a job in the land of freedom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE CITY OF LIBERALS IN THE CURRENT YEAR 2017

>>93076597
Right, it's like the opposite of that "One death is a tragity, one million is a statistic" quote. One immigrant might be a great guy, but one million of them systematically drive down wages for jobs which require hard physical labor but little to no real skill.

>>93083521
I assume that's 70% of the people are Hispanic. Which makes sense, since machinery means you can do almost all the work except picking the fruit with only a few farmers.

>>93077524
mad af

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It's a
>I'm watching Family Guy like an idiot when I could be watching literally anything else episode

People will still try to justify objective criminals staying in America. Lol.

>>93087350
>dude, the whole point of America is to be a nation ofimmigrantwho can come have their own american dream and launch their own business/get a job in the land of freedom.
You are aware that School House Rock is not always a reliable source of historical information, right?

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>>93092196
They can push harder on the "welfare is slavery" narrative. More black people than they expected voted for Trump and the left pushed really hard on the racist narrative. It really did nothing in the end.

>>93087035
Deinopidae are probably my favorite arachnids, I actually find them kind of cute

>>93092800
>More black people than they expected voted for Trump
As an aside, the fallout from that and from more women voting for Trump than expected is still fucking hilarious.

>"WE GAVE YOU EVERYTHING, AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY US!?"

>>93090160
But hating islam is justified.
They are a cancerous culture with nothing good, they do not deserve to exist.

>>93089521
>"We'll take Juan for the road"

>>93090160
>It becomes irrational when someone starts screaming at a Muslim on a bus then stab bystanders that try to get them to fuck off.
you mean the exact opposite thing that happened last month is London?

>>93087763
Midwesterner here, can confirm. It's a shame, too, because the Great Lakes region is actually really beautiful.

>>93093594
That happened in Portland last week

>>93093643
Maybe muslims should stop being terrorists if they don't want people to bite back.
Let's hope Israel and muslims finally go to war and destroy each other.

>>93093708
He stabbed three people (killing two) that were trying to defend two muslim girls he was yelling at. One of the victims was a veteran.

>>93093643
It finally happened?
After all those terrorist attacks and BBC's "think of the islams/islams are the real victims" crocodile tears, somebody finally lashed out AND NO MUSLIMS WERE HARMED?

>>93077084
>hurr it's the dealer's fault not my junkie friend

Glad your friend is dead desu. Junkies are a bigger leech on the system than Mexican day laborers.

>>93093801
Most anti-muslims attack usually end up with no dead muslims. The most recent successful one was the one in Canada.

>>93077084
>As someone who's had friends killed by heroine

your friends were fucking idiots unless the heroin was sentient and stabbed them to death or something

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>Be American with Mexican ethnicity
>generally agree with better border security
>have to share the same podium as "hurr fuck lazy spics, deport them all XD" and "I'm not racist but statistically Mexicans are destructive, uneducated, dumber, tumors on society" whites

>It's a Family Guy episode

>>93077208

It does though

>believe Congress to be corrupt
>still allow them to tell you what is moral

you cannot possibly be a bigger cuck than that

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>>93093591
Apparently they didn't find Carlos

>>93078761
Mexico does treat their illegal immigrants like shit and it's something that is just starting to be talked about.

Not to mention the US illegal immigrants living in in Baja and Sinaloa including all those retired American vets who aren't suppose to legally be there since Trump is ruffling feathers.

And Mexico doesn't have a fence/wall in the south.

>>93093607
I heard that funding for upkeep of the lakes has been taken away as part of the whole EPA cuts thing, I hope the lakes aren't too badly affected

>>93093607

Hey now, Colorado is pretty fucking great.

>>93095172
>I hope the lakes aren't too badly affected

They will be. The Great Lakes have been facing problems for years, be it from invasive species like lampreys or factory runoff. In fact, one of the biggest problems is still up in the air- there's an old, unkempt oil pipeline going right under Mackinaw that could potentially break in the near future and cause major problems for the entire region. Of course, that doesn't matter to Michiganders and other midwesterners because muh 1,000 coal mining jobs.

>>93095245
Does Colorado count? I generally consider the midwest to be the Great Lakes region plus some of the Great Plains, but I didn't think it stretched out to the Rockies.

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>>93095172
The EPA pollutes more than any private entity ever has, it should be abolished.

The well being of the great lakes is the responsibility of the states bordering it and no one elses.

>>93085297
Last time I checked, nig nogs didn't 'make upl 50% of the population and could potentially overtake the US

>>93093801
Terrorism is a meme, ayyrabs in Europe are more cancerous than niggers in the violent crime department.

>>93087035
it's the red eyes caused by the camera. They make everyone creepy. Photoshop them out and you'll get those innocent peepers back.

>>93087382
>Do you not what overpopulation is?
Not him but this is a fucking meme. We're not 6 meter giants that each need 1000 square kilometers of space. The entire world population can fit within the area of Texas. The US isn't going to run out of space.

If you don't like living in crowded spaces, move to Midwestern America.

Wow bros, nice job, you made a racist thread, nice *clap clap*

Really nice. Very nice. Epic, I'd say.

Epic racism, bros.

>>93083433
I legit don't think you understand the whole western intellectual system.

It doesn't matter who says it, or how prejudiced they are, what matters if their proof.

>>93085637
But that's wrong, their children use the system.
So they get the benefits, without having to pay taxes.

>>93096022
shut up, you niggerjew.

>>93076558
>>93077524
It's coming to the point where I'm realizing Family Guy is easy bait.

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>>93077084
>heroine

>>93087350
You do understand we only accepted the best and let them starve if they didn't work.

>>93078842
But all the cool kids are doing it, anon!

>>93096117
Saying slur words is assured to improve your quality of life and self esteem.

So keep on doing that, my friend.

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>>93096060
You missed their point. They said facts lost their impact on the public if they were brought alongside dumb rhetorics like racism and other sleazy agendas.

If you want your points to be recognized and your persona to be respected, either drop your prejudice or hide it. This isn't the 20th century, sperging out isn't socially acceptable anymore.

>>93096022
>Can't actually argue
>Makes a passive aggressive jab instead
Seth, is that you?

>>93090089
>Most illegal immigrants actually pay taxes but never are able to collect any of the benefits.

But that's wrong retard, most are payed in cash

>>93087350
>America is a country of immigrants
>That means we have no border laws and can't ever have any border laws even hundreds of years after we formally created a government and colonized the land
People like you are why people hate liberals and why Trump won.

>>93096226
>sperging out isn't socially acceptable anymore.
why'd trump win then
all of the shit you're saying is demonstratively false

>>93090611
plural of anecdote is data

>>93096173
stinky hat

>>93096226
>They said facts lost their impact on the public if they were brought alongside dumb rhetorics like racism and other sleazy agendas

There was no racism that wasn't invented by the cable media. They would just take a clip of something sensible/common sense Trump would say and go "racist racist racist nazi hitler racist" 24/7 with all the newspaper headlines going "racist man says something racist"

Racism as an attack has completely lost all of it's meaning from overuse. Whenever I see a source call someone racist I already know I'm being lied to and that the person who is supposedly racist probably just wants to lower taxes or something

Whenever I imagine someone defending illegal immigrants I always imagine some white trust-fund baby.
>OH NO, NOW WHO WILL CHEAPLY CLEAN MY HOUSE AND LOOK AFTER MY WHELPS AND CLEAN MY SHIT?
They're the only ones who benefit from illegal immigrants being here.

>>93096226
Again, the liberal intellectual system thrives no more on prejudice then cool detachment.
I'm not talking how it is right now, I'm talking how it was and should be, this whole new system is dangerous.

someone should set up camp on Seth MacFarlane's lawn.

tell him to stop being racist and xenophobic and that you have a right to live on his land. property lines are a social construct.

>>93096332
They're also the same people who think the US should keep destroying the Middle East and then bitch about the millions of refugees it creates and accuse everyone of being responsible for importing them.
We are in Hell.

>>93096411
Oh yea, it's always the rich fucktards.
>WE NEED TO TAKE IN MORE REFUGEES, JUST DON'T PUT THEM ANYWHERE NEAR ME BECAUSE THAT'S PATRIARCHY!
Nothing makes my blood boil more than those fucktards and the dumbfucks they brainwash.

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>>93096262
Because of the very reason sperging out isn't socially acceptable, how are you not getting this? Look at all the people who voted for him, they're not all racist or whatever, but they all have one thing in common: they see change as a negative thing (hello, >>93096361). They're reactionaries in one way or another.

Why do you think Trump and other right-wing populists always win rural America? Because they fear change, and they promise them they don't have to do anything personally to change their situation, often pinning the blame for their struggles on some foreign force.

>>93096325
This just conveniently ignores every single time Trump has fucked up or being legitimately antagonistic towards a group of people.

>>93096464
>This just conveniently ignores every single time Trump has fucked up or being legitimately antagonistic towards a group of people.
Which is significantly less times than people think. Worst thing he did in regards to a group of people was his post-Orlando tweet but that wasn't even directly related to gays or Muslims but him getting overexcited that another terrorist attack was going to give him a Flordia boost. Trump's "bad" remarks towards minorities are the kinds of statements that are only racist if you frame it to be racist. At worst he's just rude.

>>93096464
>They see change as a negative thing
Have you not been paying attention to /pol/? Change is literally all they want.

>>93096242
Stating that the sky is blue is not a jab at the sky, isn't it? Now, I hold you, a stranger capable of operating a PC, navigating the Internet and roaming the recesses of imageboards, on high regard enough to expect you to agree on me with this simple notion.
Stating facts does not necessarily imply making fun of people or things, and it isn't the case the vast majority of the times. Also, I'm pretty sure it qualifies as an argument on its own, doesn't it? The argument is bringing up to the public's attention the fact itself.

And what I did there, was stating that this thread has been conjured by the minds of racist people, who provided a good portion of the posts which makes it up, and most importantly spurred the discussion away from the subject of cartoons and comics, the primary focus of this board, and instead directed it towards real life issues in a way that was sure, in their minds, to promote their own political agenda. This is a fact and an undeniable truth, deny it in front of this anonymous collective at your own credibility's risk.

Going back to your own post:
>Can't actually argue
This >>93096022 is what I stated, and this my argument. I'm clearly able of holding a conversation and picking up contextual cues.
>Makes a passive aggressive jab instead
As proved above, a statement isn't a passive aggressive jab, you're mistaken.
Before this rather unsatisfacting conversation end, I pray you to take this bit of personal advice to hearth: you can't chalk up every argument you dislike to a passive aggressive remark and expect any consequence other than passing as a foolish moron who can't make an argument for himself.

Good day.

>>93096464
Somehow people like you have started to think that "liberal" means nice. And that our liberal intellectual systems should foster things like sensitivity, tolerance, etc. However while sensitvity, tolerance are good goals in and of themselves, they are fundamentally incompatible with the peaceful and productive advancement of human knowledge. To advance knowledge we must sometimes suffer, and worse still sometimes inflict suffering on others.

Also change isn't a always a good thing, you probably think that the Weimer Repblic changing into nazi germany was good because it's "change"

>>93096464
>This just conveniently ignores every single time Trump has fucked up or being legitimately antagonistic towards a group of people.

No it doesn't, I loved the fact that he is openly antagonistic to media liars, globalist madmen, worthless government employees. And his(actual) fuckups are completely forgivable. I could give a shit that groupie whores let him feel them up.

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>>93096464
Oh wait I'm getting baited

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>>93096691
This post is literally everything that's wrong with America.
I could not sound more purposefull idiotic if I tried my darn hardest.

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>>93096749

>>93096659
>Which is significantly less times than people think.
But it has still happened.

>Worst thing he did in regards to a group of people was his post-Orlando tweet but that wasn't even directly related to gays or Muslims but him getting overexcited that another terrorist attack was going to give him a Flordia boost.
He has a strange hate boner for Mexicans, for starters. Anytime some country's leader/organization tells him "no" the retard will threaten or actually remove the US out of diplomacy with said people, which often goes against the benefit of Americans and America's allies (see the Paris Treaty). I could go on. You can make the argument that he's not racist, but he's extremely trigger-happy.

>At worst he's just rude.
But you want this man to represent the most important country of the Western world?

>>93096794
>"Funny" pic
>No argument
Every time.

>>93096806
>He has a strange hate boner for Mexicans, for starters.
Not him, but his hate boner for Mexicans isn't strange, no one likes Mexicans.
Though I hate Puerto Ricans much more, especially since they all fled up here to MA and fucking ruined western Mass.

>>93096699
>I don't have a way to retort this
>It must be bait
Nice.

>>93096666
Except this thread is about Family Guy, a genuinely awful show, and a genuinely awful plot point. It's your OPINION that this thread is racist, making it no longer a statement and making your point moot.

You're assuming that disliking people illegally crossing over the border = racism, when it could mean a variety of things, which is ultimately the downfall of your post and what cements it in the realm of opinion and not fact, as you desperately proclaim it is.

>>93096675
>>93096892
But I did

>>93096904
Lmao what a passive aggressive little bitch

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>>93096806
>But it has still happened.
LBJ, one of the biggest pushers for civil rights among blacks, was once quoted for saying "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for 200 years". Fucking Bill Maher who couldn't be more obnoxiously progressive literally just said the N word on TV and Colbert made a cock sucking joke without realizing it. All your fucking idols are racist and have done racist things, it's impossible not to when you're an icon. I guarantee that 90% of the people who whine and bitch about Trump would've acted twice as racist during their campaign because they wouldn't be able compose themselves properly. There's a fucking Avenue Q song about everyone being racist, it's true. Thinking you're not racist or that anyone is incapable of it is almost as ignorant as racism itself. Trump is tackling very delicate issues with a tenacity and composure we've never seen in politics before, it's astounding. He walks right up to the line of the Overton Window and knows exactly where to stop.
>He has a strange hate boner for Mexicans, for starters
I could write a 30 page thesis on why illegal Mexican immigration is bad for everyone but I won't because anyone educated understands why it's bad.
>Anytime some country's leader/organization tells him "no" the retard will threaten or actually remove the US out of diplomacy with said people, which often goes against the benefit of Americans and America's allies (see the Paris Treaty).
If you don't understand why he's doing what he's doing then you need to read up on what the Paris Treaty actually means. Also, how was leaving things like TPP and renegotiating NAFTA bad exactly? Trump doesn't want America run by global interests, there's lots of legitimate reasons to disagree with that but fact is many Americans would prefer America do what's in our own interest rather than what the rest of the world wants.
>>93096829
Pic related

>>93096904
Again, what's so bad about being racist.

I doubt this anon is assaulting people IRL

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>>93097059
>Trump is tackling very delicate issues with a tenacity and composure we've never seen in politics before, it's astounding

>>93096969
But how am I being passive aggressive by attacking your arguments directly?