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>TAAO is almost over >Lost Light gets more unbearable each

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>TAAO is almost over
>Lost Light gets more unbearable each issue
>Optimus Prime is consistently meh

Are transformers comics a dying breed?
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I don't think they dying anytime soon seeing how well they're selling but they definitely need a shake up to get things going again. I feel Optimus Prime is in the meh zone at the moment because it's so calm and monotone with very little action compared to the fun, chaos that was exrid S2 and it's finale. Lost Lights biggest mistake, I feel, was kicking things back off in an alternate universe arc instead of maybe an issue or 2 of just everyone recooperating and getting familiar with the new guys. Shame TAAO is being murdered because the other books could learn a thing or two from it.
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>>93042242
>Lost Lights biggest mistake, I feel, was kicking things back off in an alternate universe arc instead of maybe an issue or 2 of just everyone recooperating and getting familiar with the new guy

after a long tiring 5/6 parter, Roberts thought it'd be smart to start the new season off with another one.

Fucking Stop Please.

How he started off Season 2 was a lot better, it gave us a bit of time to recooperate and understand the current situation.
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>>93042354
>>93042369

End
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>>93042354
Nosecone is a sadist.
What manner of mind games are these? Reminds me of highschool chicks and silent treatment.
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>TAAO is almost over, because Scott can't figure out switching the story over to the colonies that desperately need it.
>Lost Light keeps grabbing my attention
>OP is consistently great
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Lost Light #6 and Hasbro Heroes Scourcebook #1 came out today, and the latter has spoilers for stuff that hasn't been released yet.
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>>93042424
Holy shit, did you read the new LL? I think it's time to go after the mutineers!
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>>93042116
>Optimus Prime is consistently meh
Well, I loved the first 5 issues, it's just that 6 didn't really stick the landing and 7 was just okay. I'm still enjoying it.
And, you know, at least we have Revolutionaries...
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>>93043589
>the latter has spoilers for stuff that hasn't been released yet.
Why does IDW always pull this shit? But yeah I figured seeing how someone posted HoS Bumblebees entire Revolutionary profile just the other day.
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>>93043652

fuck that should have been the start of the season.

also story time when?
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>>93044084
>also story time when?
Only Lost Light #6.

If you want to storytime the Sourcebook, ROM #11, and any other non-TF Hasbro Shared Universe comics, do so in a new thread.
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>>93044211
The Scourcebook has several TF character bios that are new. But again, possible spoilers.
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>>93044211

that's fine i only care about the TRANSFORMERS comics.
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>>93044211
Thanks, anon.
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>>93042369
Aw. The way the beastformers are riding on the vehicle-modes is adorable...
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>>93044368
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>>93044331
>first of all how dare he
I hate Anode so much.
The Necrobot came across a body presumably abandoned and clearly without a proper burial and mutilated. Having a funeral for a random abandoned corpse and ensuring it an afterlife from the Necrobots point of view is a kind act.
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>>93042116
Yes. Sales are drastically down. Once it it IDW's top franchise, not its barely in the top 300. Not a single Hasbro Universe title sells well right now. It's hitting a breaking point where most of them are about to be cancelled.
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The end, thanks for reading
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>>93044598
>"Peace through empathy"
Oh come off it.
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>>93044598
>Megatron gets to start life over alongside Optimus as friends
That's pretty feelsy.
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>>93044598
huh?
I don't get it.
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wow i really wasn't expecting Megatron to stay behind.

well I'm fine with this, Megatron's taking up too much screen time as is.

It's time for the comic to get back to Rodimus and the rest.

I expect Megatron will probably show up again in the future back in their world. Probably in a moment akin to Ratchet and Drift's return in Dying of the Light.
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>>93044559
TAAO made 19th place on Comixology this month.
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>>93044578

Glitch is there with Megatron in this universe.

It's also another timeline where he didn't become the monster known as Tarn.
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>>93044716
It's Functionist universe Orion Pax. Megatron has Rollers walkie talkie for some reason.
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>>93044559

It's IDW's own damn fault tho.

The reason why they were so successful was because, unlike the previous years of IDW transforemers RID & MTMTE felt like two genuine creator owned books like something you'd see come from Image.

They both had consistent art styles, they had two writers (one who was the main editor for Transformers) who were leading the franchise steadily into the future. And the fandom, and the new kids bought into it. Because that's what people want from comics. They want the manga model of following a single story via a single book, and not following 20 billion different stories across 20 books.

But IDW had to cock it up by trying to use the success of Transformers to jumpstart their other shitty Hasbro brands that they had the rights to, so they're now doing the Marvel model of 10 books with constant crossovers and events and relaunches and all the people who were into it went "nope, I don't want this" and bailed.

Combined with dumping Milne it was obvious that the new editors and staff at IDW doesn't understand what made Transformers stand out and popular and are now killing their main cash cow.
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>>93044745
>It's Functionist universe Orion Pax. Megatron has Rollers walkie talkie for some reason.
That's what I don't understand. That's our Roller's walkie, not a functionist version's. And to that end why would functionist Orion have our Roller's "number"?
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>>93044563

I'm confused here.

so Lug is...alive sorta now?
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>>93044817
>And to that end why would functionist Orion have our Roller's "number"?
Maybe Roller is always destined to have that number regardless of which universe he's in and because it's the same number and the normal universe is completely sealed away I'd imagine the walkie talkie could work.

Although, the fact that something from another universe can exist within a foreign one without disappearing or breaking some law within existence is already strange to begin with.
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>>93044857
Lug's a foetus.
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>>93044598
it feels kinda forced all of this, like Roberts it's really trying so hard but I don't see the comic getting better.
fujoshits and tumblr killed MTMTE/LL long time ago but Roberts is making anything he can to not let this comic die but it's just matter of time.
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>>93044767
This.
I actually like all the other Hasbro properties (with the exception of M.A.S.K) and don't particularly mind a shared universe with maybe easter eggs here and there but all these planned crossovers are terrible, especially when they promised the books would be self contained and doing their own thing most of the time. It hasn't even been a whole year since Revolution and we're already getting another event? Let alone one involving Cobra attacking Cybertron.
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>>93044492
Am I suppose to feel sad that this Rung is dead because the art style is making me laugh more than anything.

Like...there's nothing wrong with the new guy's art but it just does NOT fit the tone of this comic at all. I can't take it seriously. I feel kinda bad about it.
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>>93044817
Roller's been trying to contact him.
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Holy cow, those Anode/Lug pages were so boring they completely cocked up the flow of the story. Does anyone have any interest at all in those characters?

This has been yet another wet fart from Roberts. I think I'm done with this series now. Congrats to IDW and their team for driving the Transformers franchise back into the ground again.
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So... Megatron's free now? He gets a second chance, scott-free?

What the fuck is the comic going to be now? I always assumed the comic was going to end with Megatron like, accepting his execution or something. He just gets to have a free ride in a universe that doesn't know what he did?

Jesus, man. This comic's gone to shit.
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>>93045244
You could almost feel Robert stroking his cock while writing this issue
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>>93044767
>they're now doing the Marvel model of 10 books with constant crossovers and events and relaunches
This model includes delays.
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>>93045319
yeah i wonder what the hell they are going to do now that they have lost megaton. Getting him to the knights of cybrertron was the whole point. i guess dealing with the mutiny is one thing on the list but after that then what? also thanks to the anon who storytimed
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>>93044563
>tailgate no longer has glorious wide hips and thicker than a bowl of oatmeal thighs

what's the point of living
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>>93044857
A Transformer's spark is their physical soul, with all the memories and personality that individual had. They need a brain to correctly process all of that and the outside world, but you can usually jam a spark into a new body and have that individual walking around again.

It remains to be seen how much of Lug survived though, considering it was just a fragment of spark energy that had been degrading in a flower for centuries.
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>>93044598
lolwut
this book is a complete fucking joke, you can't even read it ironically anymore
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>>93045472
>It remains to be seen how much of Lug survived though, considering it was just a fragment of spark energy that had been degrading in a flower for centuries.
Not to mention it was said that it takes twelve sparks to power one flower I believe. So who knows who else got sucked in there along with Lug.
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>>93045491
She could have been filtered out from the others.
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>>93045400
>knights of cybrertron
that's not the main reason for their journey since a long time ago, actually they don't have any goals anymore
just like one piece
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>>93044857
>>93045472
This is how they revived Optimus Primal into his transmetal body, his spark was pulled back from death and stuck into an inert goo fetus
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>MtMtE S1 was great
>MtMtE S2 was fun seeing Megatron being good
>This shit is shit
I put it off a bit once Milne was gone because I love his art, same when Burcham left for S2 because I love his colors. This, this is just bad.
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>>93045400
>>93045617

the endgame for this series gets harder and harder to figure out.

but i have a feeling Megatron will come back later on probably not this season but next more like it. Probably a big damn hero moment or a oh shit moment.

I want to believe Megatron once this revolution is settled peacefully will leave to go back to the regular universe and go to the knights.

I mean this might score him more brownie points if he can show, i helped change another universe for the better.
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>>93045244
The franchise needs...a savior.
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>>93045924
Pic unrelated?
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>>93045924
even furman can't save it now
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>>93045319
>>93044598
The Megatron parts seemed way too rushed. The art's not helping either. It's like some short 6 parter you'd find at a kid's TF magazine
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>>93045924
>Implying Roberts isn't just the Bendis of IDW
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>>93046060
This. Milne dodged a bullet by getting axed off of MTMTE/LL. At least now he won't be associated with this turd as it goes stale.
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>>93046155
Here's hoping Rom vs TF is good!
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>>93046155
Didn't he make a passive aggrssive tweet in regards to his thoughts for Lost Light and the cancellation of TAAO?
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>>93046155

isn't Milne doing the mutineers issue though?
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>>93046221
screen shot?
>>93046246
is this confirmed or is he just doing a cover?
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>>93045924
>implying Barber isn't more superior than Roberts and Furman when he has the liberty to write what he wants

also, even if Furman make a really good history tumblr will scream until he will be kicked out of idw.
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>>93046302
From the storytime for TAAO. If I remember correctly, the writer for TAAO said she was done with the story and moving on, then a fan said she could totally try and write in for future Lost Light, to which Milne says "She could do way better than that."
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>>93046395
>"She could do way better than that."
Yeah, she can go write for Marvel.
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>>93046421
She could though, by leaving comics to people who have at least a little bit of talent.
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>>93046533
Jimbob is that you?
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>>93046395
Can you blame him for being bitter? James didn't even fight for him to stay on as the artist for his comic. If it wasn't for Milne MTMTE wouldn't have gathered the large audience it had. A lot of fans credit Alex's art as the reason they even looked into the comic.
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>>93044496
To be entirely fair, she's had a really rough couple of days.
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>>93044514
>Rodimus getting triggered
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If IDW goes under, I hope Milne, Pitre, and Kei Zama as well can jump ship and work on the new companies comics.
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>>93046655
>fight for him
He wanted him off. Jack Lawrence is an old friend of his.
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Didn't see that coming.

Think you guys will like it more now that Megs is gone?
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>>93046808
Only if some new writer saves him from this shithole/
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>>93046726
Agreed. They're the best artists IDW has had in a good while.
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>>93042381
That cunt witch again. I wish she and her ugly colour scheme end soon.
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>>93046725
that's not what triggered means

you know what, i've been having to say the often enough recently, i'm just gonna make a fucking image to save on typing
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>>93046950
He felt a negative reaction to something because of existing biases he had
What else would it be called?
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>>93046808
Heavens no.
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>>93046808
>Think you guys will like it more now that Megs is gone?

I'll like it more when they actually start getting some plot progression, actually get started on the journey to get their ship back.

I expect Megatron will return eventually, but he's been the focus for the last 3 years now.

It's time everyone else had a shot.
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>>93044538
>Terminus deliberately took them to the wrong teleporter so he could keep Megatron

That old selfish fuck.
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>>93044598
>>"Peace through empathy"
Pfffffff. Is this a satire or what?
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>>93047284

as dumb as it sounds, it works for what Megatron wants to do.

granted will things turn out fine or will things get worse this time around?
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>>93044767
this
this so much
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>>93044977
>fujoshits and tumblr killed MTMTE/LL
Roberts not being able to write a good fulfilling conclusion to any of his arcs is what killed mtmte/LL.
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>>93046950
>(of a response) caused by particular action, process, or situation
That's exactly what it means
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>>93046725

Considering how Getaway is who orchestrated the mess their in and that Megatron is one of the many reasons, they busted their asses for Megatron and Rodimus truly believed he had Megatron's word.

It's not surprising how much angrier and fustrated Rodimus is getting, everyone he thinks he can count on doublecrosses him.

I'm hoping this development grows somewhere, like him getting more rash or getting more unreasonable in his orders eventually either getting himself hurt or someone else hurt, possibly even killed.

It could then be the realization why everyone's getting fucked for him, it's him.
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>>93047454
this.
he took 6 issues to tell a story that could have fitted in 3(at most) with weird side stories we don't care about.
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>>93047478
He already has bad guy color scheme.
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fact is that a lot of folks i know who loved MTMTE have been very disappointed with the direction it's headed.

Roberts is doing TFCon DC this year, hopefully someone can convince Roberts to get back to the old style of his writing.
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>>93045491
>>93045515
Kaput said he isolated her from the others.
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>>93047491

I agree. If Roberts instead took the main important points of the functionist universe and focused solely on that it'd be about 3 issues.

then we could have had other issues/plotlines going on and more focus on that.

he can't juggle all this shit.
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>>93047562
you wouldn't see any change any time soon, there's significant lead time from writing to publishing
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>>93047562
Roberts only listens to praise. He won't acknowledge anyone who says things he doesn't like or agree with.
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>>93043652
Two issues of Scavengers first.
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>>93047832

well at least it's a change of pace.

shame we couldn't get one issue of Rodimus and the rest just figuring out the next course of action.

but the Scavangers are fun.
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>>93042354
Is Nosecone /ourguy/?
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>>93047832

Sweet. Love those guys. I genuinely like 95% of Roberts' stuff, but ya can't say that anymore.

So...any juicy spoilers from that Sourcebook thing?
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>>93047881
I really wish he'd follow Yost's writing style for what he did on Scarlet Spider. He'd do his story arc and then have a cooldown issue that had things happen in the background to build up future arcs. An issue dedicated on how to move forward after a long arc is never a bad thing.
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Are Anode and Lug ever going to grow on us or not?
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>>93048102
Why not just read it yourself and NOT invite spoilers into a thread, hmm?
>>93048149
Lug's growing on Anode now, that's for sure.
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>>93048149
Lug, yes. Anode, no.
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>>93048232
Or someone could just post relevant sourcebook pages here.
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>>93045924
that old fuck couldnt write to save his life at this point
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>>93044598
Wow. I think I must feel sad and joy for Anode but I feel nothing.

Sadly, it's the same case for the Megatron deal. I'm not moved or happy, or nothing.
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>>93048785
Megatron was the most interesting character there, and he's just been written out of the universe. The mutiny plot is probably going to end in a cop out now with the entire reason for the mutiny gone.
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>>93048232
>Lug's growing on Anode now, that's for sure.
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>>93049294
Well they have a ship in the shape of a moon now. So at least they have that going for them.
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>>93048134

man that would help this comic out.
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>>93049496
He did pretty well with it. Kaine is a pretty angsty guy, and after an arc he had an issue where he goes to a rodeo. Was supposed to be a date with his love interest but it's not going good. Villain "attacks" the rodeo looking for his ex. He intervenes, clears up some of his own doubts about himself as a character, and then in the background he's got a letter from Madame Web about Shathra that he never received. It helped set up what followed pretty well.
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>Terminus' smug little smirk
You fucker. Returninus and the whole functionist universe were a mistake.
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>>93047881
>Scavengers
OH THANK GOD YES
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>>93044598
This book used to be so good. What happened?
>>93046395
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>>93050035
>MTMTE fans still expect Roberts and Milne to ever work together again
lmao
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http://www.cbr.com/first-strike-idw-hasbro-new-series-tie-ins/

EXCLUSIVE: IDW Reveals First Strike Tie-Ins, New Ongoing Hasbro Series

IDW Publishing’s next Hasbro crossover is looming, and it looks to have an even bigger impact on the line than fans might have initially guessed. First Strike, which brings together Transformers, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K. and more, gets going next week with a #0 issue from co-writers Mairghread Scott & David A. Rodriguez and artist Max Dunbar, also the creative team of the main six-issue First Strike miniseries which kicks off with twice-monthly issues in August.

Along with the imminent debut comes the news that some of IDW’s current licensed Hasbro books will end in August — due to a “seasonal” model and in-story changes brought by the events of First Strike. August will bring the last issues of G.I. Joe (with #9), M.A.S.K. (#10), Micronauts: Wrath of Karza (#5) and Rom (#14).

But those characters, naturally, aren’t going away for good — September sees a G.I. Joe: First Strike by Aubrey Sitterson and Ilias Kyriazis and a Micronauts: First Strike one-shot by Christos Gage and Chris Panda; October follows with a M.A.S.K.: First Strike one-shot from Sitterson and Kyriazis and Rom: First Strike from Christos Gage and Chris Panda. Additionally, a Optimus Prime: First Strike one-shot is scheduled for September from John Barber and Guido Guidi; Barber is joined by artist Guido Guidi in October for the Revolutionaries: First Strike one-shot in October.

Then in November, a new series titled G.I. Joe: Unmasked (uniting G.I. Joe and M.A.S.K.) is set to debut in the wake of First Strike, and Rom & The Micronauts is slated for December. Transformers: Till All Are One will also end with July’s issue #12, as revealed recently by Mairghread Scott on her personal website, where she disclosed that she declined a First Strike follow-up for the series.
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>>93047238
Or maybe, Roller told him the wrong teleporter, to keep him safe.
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CBR caught up with IDW Editor-in-Chief David Hedgecock, for further insight on First Strike — which sees Cobra invading Cybertron after targeting the race for termination, and the Transformers, G.I. Joe and M.A.S.K. uniting to save that world and Earth — and how it’ll affect the Hasbro action publishing line as a whole. CBR also has the solicitation text and covers for the G.I. Joe: First Strike, Micronauts: First Strike and Optimus Prime: First Strike one-shots, all set for release in September.

CBR: David, how did IDW decide on the “scope” of First Strike — the number of tie-ins, characters it would affect, etc.?

David Hedgecock: The inspiration for First Strike came early on in a series of group meetings we had with all the Hasbro writing teams prior even to the Revolution event. It was always about serving the story itself. That was the priority. The characters we used and who was affected always came from the place of telling the most compelling stories.

As for deciding the mechanics of publishing, we knew we wanted to do an event that fans of the existing material could really latch onto that was also 100 percent accessible to new fans. To that end, we started looking at our line of Hasbro titles in terms of “seasons.” We are currently in our first season, where we’re learning about this new world and all the possibilities it contains. As our first season reaches its satisfying conclusion, so too will a handful of titles like Transformers: Till All Are One, G.I. Joe, ROM, M.A.S.K. and Micronauts: Wrath of Karza. This felt like the perfect spot to complete these series for two main reasons:
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1. We knew we wanted to do a big event book with some surrounding one-shots. However, we didn’t want to ask the fans to buy into the event and still try to keep up with all the ongoing books at the same time. Instead, we’ve chosen to allow people to enjoy the event without asking them to take out a second mortgage on their house (OK, maybe comics aren’t quite that expensive yet, but you know what I mean!). While First Strike is in play, we’re asking fans to buy roughly the same amount of books they would have bought if they were already taking a dive into this universe (about 4 titles per month, give or take).

2. For story reasons that will become clear during First Strike, the titles we’re drawing to a close won’t really make any sense any more! After the events of First Strike, we’ve got plans for radically new, fresh takes on some of these properties and we want to signify how important the changes are. We couldn’t do that and keep the current series titles in place.

And it won’t just be the stories that are new either. Along with some of your favorite creators like the incredibly talented Mairghread Scott and John Barber, we’re bringing in exciting new creators to further strengthen our line and add their ideas to the rich tapestry already being woven.

This is coming a year after Revolution — are you planning on annual Hasbro events?

We have a three-year story arc in mind for the shared Hasbro universe. First Strike is the second act. While Revolution brought everything together, First Strike is the first chance we get to see the ramifications of this bold direction we’ve undertaken, and it leads us directly into… well, I can’t wait to tell you what it leads us into but I can’t just yet!
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I just realized. The force field collapsing is what killed Lug, right?

Censere went then twice. He tried to rescue them both, got just Anode, and then had to go back again...for Lug. Far as he ever knew, she was dead because he hadn't been fast enough to save both.
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Anything you can tease about the impact this story is planned to have on the line as a whole?

First Strike will see old alliances break down and new surprising alliances form. We’re introducing incredible new stories that no one will have thought possible with a licensed property. Starting with First Strike, we’re embarking on a non-stop, roller coaster thrill ride that will keep readers on the edge of their seats and gasping for more!

It all starts next week with First Strike #0, which sets the stage for the event, and if you want a hint of what’s to come, check out the checklist at the back of the #0 issue which unveils some new #1s which pick up where First Strike leaves off.

G.I. JOE: First Strike #1—Cover A: Drew Johnson—SPOTLIGHT
Aubrey Sitterson (w) • Ilias Kyriazis (a) • Drew Johnson (c)
As Scarlett heads off to Cybertron to confront the events of First Strike, her G.I. Joe team on Earth faces an unusual enemy… V.E.N.O.M.! With the help of a former M.A.S.K. member, G.I. Joe looks to put an end to Miles Mayhem’s sinister group once and for all, in the Greatest Crossover One-Shot Of All Time!
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/27/17

G.I. JOE: First Strike #1—Cover B: Ilias Kyriazis
Aubrey Sitterson (w) • Ilias Kyriazis (a & c)
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/27/17
*Retailer incentives: Order 10 copies, get one free variant cover by Nick Bradshaw!
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Micronauts: First Strike #1—Cover A: Nelson Daniel—SPOTLIGHT
Christos Gage (w) • Chris Panda (a) • Nelson Daniel (c)
Rom, remaining on Earth as the events of First Strike take place, finds himself in a most unusual team-up… with Earth’s smallest heroes, The Micronauts! Together, these two forces must prevent a catastrophe on Earth even while Cybertron descends into chaos!
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/13/17
Micronauts: First Strike #1—Cover B: Chris Panda
Christos Gage (w) • Chris Panda (a & c)
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/13/17
*Retailer incentives: Order 10 copies, get one free variant cover by Nick Bradshaw!

Optimus Prime: First Strike #1—Cover A: Sara Pitre-Durocher—SPOTLIGHT
John Barber (w) • Guido Guidi (a) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (c)
With Cybertron under siege by Baron Ironblood’s forces, Optimus Prime and Arcee defend their homeland! Caught in the middle is the human/Transformer team known as the Revolutionaries—and one of them has a secret that puts everyone at risk!
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/20/17

Optimus Prime: First Strike #1—Cover B: Guido Guidi
John Barber (w) • Guido Guidi (a & c)
*Retailers: See your order form for incentive information.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Expected in-store date: 9/20/17
*Retailer incentives: Order 10 copies, get one free variant cover by Nick Bradshaw!
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>>93050241
>Single planet organics trying to wipe out Cybertronian when entire galaxy tried and can't do it.
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>>93044767
That sums it up rather well. I quit reading X-Men ages ago because they expected me to follow twenty zillion events, tie-ins and constant new, amazing, uncanny number 1 issues. This extended mess is giving me very unfortunate flashbacks.

Recently TAAO has been the only book that I've liked, and now that it's ending, I don't know if I'll bother to follow the comics anymore. I wanted to give LL a chance, but this arc was a Rung-size disappointment.
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>>93050064
How's the relationship between Alex and the former MTMTE crew?
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>>93050459

Milne is still cool with all of the artists as far as I know but he HATES Roberts.

He hated him before too, but now it's gone into overdrive.
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>>93050485
Why? I never kept up with twitter so I've got no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Is this why Roberts pushed to have him replaced?
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>>93050512
Because Milne is a bitter old fanboy with different ideas of what Transformers should be than Robert's relatively flexible ideas.
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When will jro stop trying to make Anode and Lug happen?
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>>93050512
He's said before that he suggested a bunch of ideas, and Roberts pretty much just nodded his head and said "that's nice."

It sounds like he likes working on that Transformers/Rom mini more because he feels like a lot much bigger part of the creative process, as them doing it 60s Marvel style lets him put in more of his own ideas.
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>>93050749
>My original character is a Cybertronian from a lost colony who was raised as a member of the Sol order like a changeling and she has super-special power
A mistake
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I actually like Anode for how selfish, abrasive and blunt she is.

She's just fucking rude. All she gives a shit about is herself.

She's a fairly realistically written character, it's refreshing.

The only thing I can't stand is that Nautica was trying to be nice to her and she spat it back in her face there. Nobody does that to my waifu.
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>>93050118
No fucking way it was Roller, look at Terminus's face is the following panels. He did it and he's happy.
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>>93050851

Nautica is for bullying

Her best friend is horrible to her
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>>93050835
Milne didn't make her, anon.
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>>93050851
This. I like that Anode is a bitch, all the females we've had in mtmte/ll thus far have been the same cookie-cutter nicey-nice boring type. They shouldn't all be little waifus, it's gets hella boring.
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>>93050835
>jro writes her into the story
>instantly kills her in an offhand way
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>>93050954
I just wish she'd been introduced later in the story. This last arc has had some weird pacing pulling us out of the story with her and Lug's drama.
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>>93050954
Velocity has a personality?
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>>93050706

UUUUGGGGGHHHHHH.

Why couldn't we get an adventure with Fangry and Rapidfire instead. These two IMO have so much potential

I mean you know have Decepticons with the main crew, without Megatron.

fuck they already wasted having them come to terms with Megatron being an Autobot.

Roberts why even put them in the comic?
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>>93051112
So they can play cards with Slapdash and Speedstream
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>>93051109

I'll admit Velocity only exists for 2 reasons.

1.) Nautica's friend, someone from her homeworld she connects with

2.) they needed a medic after Ratchet and First Aid left.

I mean Ratchet's back, and the only thing about Velocity's personality is that she's kind of a mediocre doctor, she like failed the doctor's exam a few times before passing.

Anode has a personality yes, but she's just not likeable enough and feels really forced this addition.

originally Roberts wanted Anode to appear on the mutiny Lost Light which honestly he should have done instead. she'd fit a lot more right in. Plus it'd be more interesting have a character who wasn't present beforehand and only takes Getaway and the rest's word on things, and definitely resists when Rodimus and co. try to claim their ship back.
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>a few hours later
>WE CANT LET HIM GET AWAY
>He'S BETRAYED US, i'm sure NOTHING BAD could have happened to him, let's definitely NOT comm him to see where he is
Magnus, what the fuck.
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>>93051147
>So they can play cards with Slapdash and Speedstream

I don't remember this at all.

the tf wiki doesn't even Speedstream them in IDW continiuity.
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>>93051243

Oh god....that is such a jarring shift in tone.

Man Roberts couldn't even remember such a minor but important detail.
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>>93044514
>>93044538
>I gave them the exact coordinates
>Nearby
So is Terminus a suspicious, manipulative bastard or a loving friend insisting on letting Megatron get a second chance?
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>>93051243
>implying he didn't deliberately say "get away" to trigger Rodimus and get him off Megs's back
Magnus and Megatron: bros to the end.
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>>93051063
Oh Im not disputing that at all, her being introduced now has KILLED the pacing.

>>93051109
She almost does. Almost.
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>>93051345

Both.

I think he does actually cares about Megatron but is selfish as fuck.

Plus Terminus didn't really care that Megatron became Robot Hitler/Stalin incarnate.

His sense of morality might be a bit warped already.
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Actually, now i've thought about it more...is Magnus also trying to get Megatron left behind so he can do good?

Kinda fucked up nobody's letting Megs make his own decisions in this matter.
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>>93051243
>>93051291
Minimus was deliberately playing Rodimus's ego to get him to leave you idiots.

>>93051345
Both.
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>>93050512
I have no idea how it was before, but I do know that this particular arc was something Milne really wanted to do, since the comic that introduced this alternate universe was like an anniversary issue to him (which is why it had so many Unicron Trilogy characters). When they finally get to do an actual arc of it, he gets booted out. Milne was clearly depressed over it (one of the comments on his twitter at the time cement it, don't have it on hand, sadly).
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>>93051493
I don't know why he would blame jro for it. The writers do not make those choices.
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>>93051390

Yeah it's actually really fucked up in that regard.

You know i could also interpret this as Let's go and get Get Away, reminding Rodimus of their current endgame goal.

Seriously I want to know what they'll do next and how will they go about it from here. do they then go back to Cybertron...well I doubt it since a whole years past since then in Optimus prime while this comic is still stuck in May 2016 (BTW it's canonically in May because the Brainstorm Day quote from the last issue occured on May 10th but it'd still have to be last year since only a few days passed between MTMTE 50 and LL 6. ) they would have mentioned something if they got back with contact in the other comics.

will they time skip a year later?

honestly i have no clue what happens next?
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>>93043694
MEGA updated again new this week:
Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook 001 (2017) (digital)
Jem - The Misfits 05 (2017) (digital)
ROM 011 (2017) (digital)
The Transformers - Lost Light 006 (2017) (digital)


Removed:
G.I. Joe Season 4 consisting of:
(2014-2015) G.I. Joe v4 [#1-8]
(2015) G.I. Joe - Snake Eyes, Agent of Cobra [#1-5]

Because we needed the space and s4 a shit anyway. I'll delete a season as needed rather than take all of pre-Rev G.I. Joe down at once.


>And, you know, at least we have Revolutionaries...
About that anon... it's into 4k sales alongside M.A.S.K. which means both are about to be dying literally any issue now. They might try to give it a followup like they have with Micronauts, but the sales for that mini haven't improved so I dunno.
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>>93042116
I am liking Optimus Prime so I'm good there.

Only Lost Light has been a dud for me.
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>>93051651
>MEGA updated again new this week
Forgot MEGA link for those who don't have it already:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ
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>>93051534
>Autovolt
HE LIVES!
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Why is Roberts pushing Minimus/Megatron so hard? It makes zero fucking sense to me.
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Can some explain the "Hi, I'm Windblade" meme to me? I keep seeing it on twitter.
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>>93050127
I'm going to tune in for the possible Skywarp, TC and Starscream reunion (also because Action Man is in this and he might be gone soon).
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>>93051888
So Starscream can be "smug anime girl.jpg" to the other two and Skywarp and hide Buster?
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>>93051063
This story was supposed to be a jump-on point, weirdly enough. That's why she was in it, to be the exposition target.
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>>93050512

Alex likes having some input in the comic and not just be a machine.

Roberts is a control freak that doesn't allow the artist a single bit of improvisation.

It was never a good match but it worked for a bit
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>>93051804
a guy called freddery did a youtube parody of the combiner wars cartoon, replacing basically every line of dialogue she has with "HI I'M WINDBLADE".
It caught on because people thought it made sense with how hard Hasbro was pushing the character in their marketing.
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>>93052105
Why ever else?
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>>93052153

ironic without Milne, Roberts wouldn't be where he is now.

seriously talk if Lawrence was there from the start, would you have been reading?

I probably would since people said how great the writing was at the start but i'm curious your thoughts.
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>>93051888
What about Acid Storm?
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>>93052132

I know but honestly trying to cram at least half of her development in this first arc was a mistake.

besides Roller or Fangry could have had THAT spot.

Roller hasn't done much, hell I can't tell what his personality is outside of having an addiction problem.
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>>93044578
Hm.
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>>93051390
He's using Rodimus' trick against him where Rodimus woukd say poor grammar. Minimus just parrots his own words back to him.
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>>93052366

fuck i never picked up on the rest of them outside of Glitch/Tarn.
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>>93052281
>ironic without Milne, Roberts wouldn't be where he is now.

Milne and Burcham desu. Burcham's washed out colours were exciting and atmospheric to me compared to the blandness of RID, despite anons bitching about hurr urr mud colours hurr.

If Roche stayed as an artist I think it'd still be a success tho because again the selling point of MTMTE was how unique it was both in the writing and in the unorthodox art/colour style.

Once Burcham's colours were gone a good chunk of MTMTE's atmosphere went with it, and now with Milne gone we're only left with the writing which isn't nearly as strong or as fun as it used to be.
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>>93052397
We should give him ravioli.
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>>93052390
its hard to with this terrible art
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>>93052281
>ironic without Milne, Roberts wouldn't be where he is now.
tumblrfag detected
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>>93052698
its true anon. also does this mean youre actually standing up for Roberts? that makes you the tumblrfag more than anything
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>>93052698
Recognizing reality isn't tumblrs strong side you know.
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>>93052833
reality is a lie
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>Anode, Velocity,Nautica, Lug solo
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>>93053307
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>>93044598
almost feels like the beginning of an alternate shattered glass universe
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>>93053307
If this first arc wasn't so fucking long i woukdnt say much about a two issue arc for some of the characters. They can have Brainstorm remodelling Luna-2 to serve as their new ship during those issues. But after such a long time why not show us a few pages of the LL without Rodimus and crew and how that has effected everything?
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>>93053307
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>>93053354
I was thinking the same thing just a bit ago. If Optimus was recruited into the Primal Vanguard does that mean he's been running around space with Sentinel?
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I'm glad ROM is being left out of this 'First Strike' nonsense.

No so much that the ongoing is ending. Grumble mumble.
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>>93053468
ROMs comics are being killed too?!
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>>93052281
>seriously talk if Lawrence was there from the start, would you have been reading?
Probably.
There were multiple selling points to the first season of MTMTE, mostly to do with all the plot strands left from LSOTW (Overlord, Fort Max, Grimlock), also we learned everything about Tyrest himself, so another name that had been popping up before.

Then the book went to shit and never recovered.

Mediocre artwork doesn't help, but neither would Milne when the book was becoming more and more sloppy and is plain bad after the relaunch.
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>>93053597

Man, who the fuck knows. IDW is pulling their vague "nothing will be the same!" bullshit with First Strike, saying that the ROM ongoing is ending "or is it?"

14 is the last issue, then something. Hopefully just a renumbering, although thats bullshit too.
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>>93052319
Agreed.
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>>93053393
See, now, I want to see THAT Megatron show up somehow. Make it a new character, I dunno. Put him together with Barney Megs and give them an evil version of Primus Apotheosis, I don't care. Just get 'em into IDW.
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>>93053660

They noticed that the million ongoings thing doesn't work so they are stream lining that shit.

At best the transformers will continue as ongoings and the other franchises will be like 4-5 issue mini seires from now on.
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>Got rid of Megatron
He's been the only consistently interesting part of season 2
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>>93053858
Jro's deluded himself into thinking Lug and Anode's solo adventure will be as big of a draw. As fucking Megatron.
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>>93053849

Mother fuck.

Sometimes I really, truly hate IDW.
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>>93053660

They are colapsing the titles.

So Optimus & Lost Light will continue with TAAO's plotline probably being showed into Optimus.

Mask & GI Joe are being colapsed into GI Joe Unmasked

Micronauts & Rom are being collapsed into one book.

So that's going to be what 4 ongoings? After this event?

Much more manageable than 9-10 before it.
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>tfw rodimus is having an embarrassing bitchfit and you need to leave this universe state before it gets worse
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>>93054056

Is this stuff confirmed?
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>>93054056
>Micronauts & Rom are being collapsed into one book.
There's no way.
How would that even work? The 2 books have entirely different goals established that don't even mesh.
IDW you utter fools.
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>>93054076
Drift's color scheme is so bad.
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>>93051651
Revolutionaries is still fucking great as a 8-issue series, though. Which seems to be the planned length anyway.
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>>93052153
Bullshit. Alex and Roberts have both said that even though his scripts are controlling Alex was free to go off-script whenever he thought it was best for the comic.
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>>93054102
They didn't get the nickname of ItDoesntWork early on for no reason.
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>>93054103
It's the darker face that ruins everything. It works for some characters but looks particularly terrible on Drift.
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>>93053897
At least it's being done by the Rom authors instead of Bunn. Plus, it was seeded in Rom with Grunt's implications that he'd be recruting them to help him.
And, you know, let's be fair. 5 ongoings for D-list properties plus 3 Transformers titles was never sustainable. It's not ideal, but it's probably that or have Micronauts drop off the face of the Earth.
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>>93054223

But ROM was doing well, wasn't it? I don't care about the rest, just keep his series going!

Fuck.
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>>93042399
>>93042354
What did he meant by this?
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>>93054274
Rom is safe, its most recent issue we have figures for was 6.5k in print sales, which is similar to the TF books. IDW don't cancel until a book is looking to fall below 5k for an ongoing, and if it's a long running series they might keep it running for a bit even around their usual cancel line.
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>>93054362

With a renumber, I assume?

>“Long Roads to Ruin” finale! Is this the last issue of Rom? Yes… and no! First Strike is upon us and out of that momentous event, a new Rom will arise! But before that, the fate of the Knights of the Solstar Order!

Stop dancing around the answer, IDW.

And ya know the worst part? The very same list of solicits have TMNT #73.
>The IDW TMNT ongoing is now the longest-running TMNT series of ALL TIME!

Way to kick a guy when he's down, guys.
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>>93054433
It's becoming "Rom and the Micronauts". It's been explicitly spelled out.
Not clear if it's a ongoing or a miniseries yet though.
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>>93054300
That Nosecone is a bitch.
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>>93054519
Got a link for that?
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>>93054433
>With a renumber, I assume?
I can't say. I know IDW want the sales to go up on the Hasbro stuff and they might do things to try and bring that about. But Rom and TF sales are both at a point neither is in any danger of going away. Jem's the only other "safe" Hasbro property well and MLP which is IDW's second biggest seller of everything, the others are almost all in cancel sales except G.I. Joe which is getting there and might eventually return to what it had been for years where there's no IDW original Joe and just more Hama Marvel continuation.

>And ya know the worst part? The very same list of solicits have TMNT #73.
I uh, don't see the problem, and TMNT is IDW's biggest seller so they don't have to worry about trying to counter sales bleed.

Relaunches happen because they do genuinely lessen sales bleed, they don't prevent it, but it does help. What can limp to 20 issues as a single ongoing can probably stretch to 30+ with a relaunch or 2 to help it out.
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>>93044718
This. Megatron shows up in Drift's vision for the season 3 endgame, right?

R-right?
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>>93054575

It just sucks that they can proudly keep TMNT going, but have to constantly relaunch their Hasbro stuff, even if sales are equal. Some kind of stupid double standard.
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>>93054651
>even if sales are equal
TMNT is like 15k above the best selling Hasbro stuff currently. They are nowhere near equal.
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>>93054715
That is if we're not including MLP which is a Hasbro property way closer to TMNT's sales level. But everything else isn't even close to what TMNT does.
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>>93054166
Really?
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>>93054715
>>93054734

Hm. Shame.

I'm afraid to ask how Ghostbusters does.

And Godzilla, assuming IDW even has the fucking license anymore.
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>>93053307
>?? returns to the L/Light

First Aid?
Tripodeca??
Smegmatron?
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>>93054767
Yeah it makes his facial features really hard to see next to his bright red-white body.
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>>93053307
So he's not doing an issue on the Decepticons currently shackled with them? The guys who would probably bolt now that Megatron's gone?
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>>93054774
>And Godzilla, assuming IDW even has the fucking license anymore.

Nope, they lost the license. I was hoping that Fran would now start getting some TF work but no such like.
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>>93054965
The guy that drew those ugly pictures for some Funpub thing?
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>>93054965

Have they said that?
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>>93054715
>>93054774
Also sorry not 15k, TMNT Batman crossover was 15k more. Regular stuff is about double the Hasbro average and 3k over MLP.

Godzilla the sales for Oblivion started on 10k and were 8k by issue 5, so unless they lost the license I don't see a way they don't do more Godzilla because those are good sales for IDW.
>>93054965
Well that'd explain the lack of follow up.

Ghostbusters International slipped into the 4k cancel line and the annual also did poorly but #1 for 101 was up to 8k sales which means there definitely is still a market for more Ghostbusters just now.
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>>93054648
What issue was Drift's vision?
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>>93055029

>the sales for Oblivion started on 10k and were 8k by issue 5

I hope you mean Rage Across Time.
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>>93044276
>>93044351
So was Terminus's shot here not accident?

I don't trust him.
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>>93053858
He didn't just get rid of him from the comic either, he removed him from the universe so noone else can use him either.
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>>93044368
What.
>>93044391
Oh god, this is true.
>>93044423
"I liked him better when he was useless."
OK, that actually got a chuckle out of me.
>>93044492
RIP in pieces, badass!Rung.
>>93044538
>leaving Megs behind
Welp, there goes like 85% of my reason to care about Rodimus' group.
>>93044598
Thanks for the dump, anon.
>"Peace through empathy."
Lol this sounds so hilariously cheesy, but I can see where it's coming from for Megatron as he is now.
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>>93054842
Ambulon???
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>>93055179
Lost Light part 1
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>>93055303
Oh I just used CMX to check what the most recent Godzilla series was then looked up sales for that. I've not read since Half Century War. For some reason CMX doesn't have RAT. RAT was generally 8k across.
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>>93055491

Then why the fuck did they drop the license? I know Oblivion was shit in a printer, but RAT was a decent series. I don't get it.

WHY MUST EVERYTHING I LOVE DIE?!?
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>>93045319
I'm assuming Megatron will come back later, something like what this anon said here >>93045864
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>>93055536
Because of who you are. Now shut up.
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>>93046808
I actually still like(d) MTMTE/LL unlike most people around here, but now with Megs gone for the foreseeable future I might lose interest.
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>>93054842
>>93055426
OVERLORD.
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>>93046808
No. He was one of the reasons that I liked it, and there have been less and less reasons to do so.
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>>93053387
It's a waste really.

I'm more interested in literally everything else going on than what was being shown and done.
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>>93054921
I can see them ditching only to end up either with the Scavangers or Deathsaurus's forces.
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>>93054648
No Megatron in Drift's vision. Just Pharma and Grimlock.
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>>93054546
There's a link right here. >>93050070 All of this was posted before.
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>>93056303
Well darn it all to heck. Can I at least hope that he doesn't come back as a deus ex machinanima final-page reveal when shit hits the fan,

or is that exactly what's going to happen
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>>93056330
My money says Megatron's the machina that evil Optimus is going to deus ex out of
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>>93047233
I can honestly see Meg's coming back in some kind of "Big Damn Heroes" moment. Which will, of course, save the day, but be the cause of major problems later.

Honestly I've always been more interested in MTMTE and TAAO than Lost Light, but the character arcs they were building in them in regards to Starscream and Megatron I think were both pretty great. now TAAO is ending and who knows where those plot lines will go, and Megatron's been put on the bus, really what is there to tune in for?
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>>93056401
Rodimus finally getting shit together and take back what is his....or rather earn it.

Admit if Roberts tried, Rodimus could actually have the best arc this season,
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>>93056087
What is Deathsaurus up to anyway? I forgot.
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>>93056401

The Scavengers. And the humorous writing.

>>93056491

He saw the DJD get slaughtered and said "Fuck this, I'm going home".
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>>93056487
>Rodimus finally getting shit together
I gave up on this happening a looooong time ago. I really did believe we were gonna see Rodimus grow and change over the course of the run, but after it being stressed to me how much Rodimus has learned or at least been changed by what he's gone through only to go on and show he hasn't repeatedly, I really just got tired of waiting for it.
I do really love MTMTE, but Roberts does often fail to progress characters. It's not true of everyone, but there are some it gets really stressed like it's gonna happen then just doesn't.
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>>93056487
>if Roberts tried
Well that's a pipe dream.

As someone who had Hot Rod as one of my top two favorite characters ever since the movie, I really just don't like Rodimus in the comics.
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>>93056487
Rehashing his "getting his shit together" arc for the 3rd time?
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>>93056567
>As someone who had Hot Rod as one of my top two favorite characters ever since the movie

....Why?
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>>93056567
I love Rodimus and I was alright with it because Barber's and Roberts' new era of IDW was all built out of what came before and it was being built on the Rodimus they had to work with.

But after so long of Rodimus running in place as a character while telling me these things are going to change him it really did hurt my enthusiasm for the guy.
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>>93044767

To be fair to IDW, it may not be completely their fault. Hasbro wants to make their own cinematic universe stemming from the Bayverse movies, so they're clearly using the comics for ideas to mine, not unlike how Marvel's properties go.

The events at the very least don't seem to have affected the Transformer properties all too much, I think. Cybertron was insulated from the Revolution, with only Windblade heading to Earth for a bit and then coming back when it was over; Lost Light does have a plot point in its "crossover", but it's one that would easily fit in a panel or two when the story returns to the scavengers. Heck, as-is there are only two non-Transformers G.I. Joe members who are in Optimus's book.

I mean I guess it can be troublesome if you're attached to Skywarp and Astrotrain and the other books but...

>>93044538

Either Terminus lied, or Roller did. We can't really be sure either way.

>>93044817

Roller may still be alive in this Cybertron, instead of having been whisked away by the Necrobot. So both of them probably have the same number, since the point of divergence is after Roller and Optimus met.

Also Roller probably left his number on whatever voice mail he has.

>>93045319

I don't think it's that bad, though a bit sad given how Megatron is usually part of the core of most Transformer series.

The fact that humans never got to give their own victim impact statements in the trial, and Megatron doing anything more than wait in jail, already shows that the universe isn't all that interested in any form of justice.

>>93046808

My interest in the story is unaffected by Megatron's fate. I've overall liked the writing, despite the flaws here and there.

I do hope we get breathing room for other bots.
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>>93056604
I don't really know.
I think it was mostly because he turned into a cool car with flames and I was six. and he was the young brash protagonist kid. You know, classic kid cartoon stuff. He's only my second favorite though.

>>93056620
I mean, I love myself a flawed character, someone that is clearly shown "Yeah he's a good guy, but he's also kind of shit, you know?" Those are the best ones to watch grow and change. But like you said, if you're only ever told it's happening, but watching the character do the exact same shit over and over, why bother? Especially when you have other characters in the same story that are actually actively trying to change?

My only guess is that for the other stories they wanted to tell they needed Rodimus to be who he was, but you never really got the storyline where he needed to become something else, so he never got to grow.
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>>93056620
>New era of IDW was all built out of what came before and it was being built on the Rodimus they had to work with

Not entirely true, Roberts ruined the development from the end of the Chaos event. By then, he should have had a more leveled head on his shoulders, and got back into a position of command (something he avoided after his trauma) yet he's acting like buffoon or a brat for most of the run.

After the whole Overlord situation, Rodimus should have been having panic attacks or ptsd over what happened before, but he barely seemed faced by it.
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>>93056574
Yeah but this time they actually do it.

I get why it went to shit for him season 2, granted he's got keep falling lower and lower till he's finally able to rise.

Everything's happens that ruins whatever change he's about to go through.
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>>93050186

Poor dude must have been upset once he realized that.
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>>93050328

The galaxy hates the transformers as a whole, but never actually tried to exterminate them en-masse.

If anything the cybertronians were trying to exterminate THEMSELVES.
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>>93056775
I think if it's time to have a proper status quo shake up, it'd be a full on war with the Galactic Council.

Starscream is overthrown, Optimus is now a political prisoner. Earth has to side with the Autobots.

Granted the one thing that needs to happen is Megatron returning to get judged by the knights, and the knights are willing to forgive on the condition Megatron is the one who leads The Transformers race against the council.

Also I had this idea of Unicron being the councils superweapon.
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>>93056699
Yeah most of what Overlord did happened so long ago now, nothing matters now.

Rewinds alive thanks to the alternate universe

Chromedome is reunited with his husbando

Drifts back.

And Pipes is still dead.
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>>93056876
>on the condition Megatron is the one who leads The Transformers race against the council.
For some reason this would really bug me.
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>>93057104
Yeah considering he's the councils most hated Transformer, it'd make sense.

The guy who caused everything to go to shit has to be the one that saves their race.
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>>93056491
It was annoying how he left the fight.
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>>93056303
How do you expect everything comes together?
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I'm glad Megatron is gone, I was so sick of his self righteous self hatred sad sack attitude that he kept using and just generally being a know it all to Rodimus despite the fact that he's fucking Megatron the war criminal who shouldn't be able to say anything to anybody. Maybe its just how Roberts writes him but I'm glad we won't have to see him for awhile.
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>>93058808
Just because he is a war criminal doesn't mean that he isn't a superior tactician than a flame-decorated idiot.
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>>93057208
But then you just know it'll end with him being redeemed in Cybertron's eyes and accepted as a hero.

Meanwhile every other bastard who didn't get commissioned by the Knights to go save the day will get their asses kicked/imprisoned/tortured/killed and it'll all be zip and dandy because they're not Megatron.
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>>93058890
He can comment on stuff all he wants but it was the way he did it and the way Magnus sucked his dick over it.
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>>93059081
Agree 100%. The entire thing with Magnus warming up to Megatron was so OOC. It's like reading a fanfiction.
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>>93058808
lol aren't you going to be disappointed when he comes back
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>>93058808
It bugs me that all the development, Megs learning he can't run from his past, the crew begrudgingly beginning to trust him was cancelled out by him just hiding from it all in another universe.
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>>93060075
>him just hiding from it all
Well I mean, that isn't really the case. He clearly fully intended to keep his word.
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>>93060153
But then Terminus and Magnus decided for him.

So either that was a good thing which really, Megatron has not yet and may never earn, or more likely, it's going to have unintended negative consequences and Megatron will inevitably come back and have to make even more amends. And now we have to wait around for that to happen.
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>>93059632
I already am because we all know it's going to happen.
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So what the FUCK was Rung's altmode?!!!!!!!
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>>93061699
a crystal making stick
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They got Luna-2. How about they refit it, paint it, and hunt down Getaway in the new Rodpod?
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Genocidal tyrant wages war across the universe.

But he's good now.
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>>93061957
Well most if not all organic species they encountered were inferior to them. Holy living machines of war.
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>>93056876

Personally I don't think it's necessary, though I would like the addition of some off-cybertronian politics too. Not war with the Galactic Council, but them showing up and trying to be bullies or whatever. Or other alien races (like the Adurian rocs) showing up to try to settle portions of Cybertron not reclaimed by Starscream's government, and pointing to Shockwave ruining their world as justification.

Also I really wanted Starscream and Megatron to talk to each other.
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>>93061752
Anon I love you.

Imagine Rodimus's face chasing you but it's the size of a moon.
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>>93061957
>literally kills untold billions, probably trillions, by causing an inter-galactic war that also as a byproduct harvests entire planets to convert into oil-I mean, energon-to fuel themselves so they can continue to war
>and no one ever manages to execute him for it
>also we're letting him run loose in an entire other universe

If I were a non-TF alien species, I'd be mad as fuck. Well, you know, if I wasn't too busy being harvested for fuel and shunted into space or tossed into an industrial meat grinder to juice the last bits of fuel from my organic hide.
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I don't like the idea of combining books post First strike.

I've been enjoying Gi Joe but Mask is the worst book in the entire line so combinging them is only going to drag Gi Joe down.

And both Micronauts and Rom have been good on their own. I don't mind them occasionally teaming up but having them have to share the same book will make things too cramed
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>>93062663
I'm surprised there's no fleshie djd style team put together especially for hunting down and killing Megs
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>>93062663
If I'm not mistaken, there are still Decepticons scattered around the universe conquering planets, aren't there?
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>>93062751
>I've been enjoying Gi Joe but Mask is the worst book in the entire line so combinging them is only going to drag Gi Joe down.
Now you know how Transformers fans feel about all these other properties being forced in to keep them alive but it dragging down the tf stories.
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>>93061957
That's some classic Roberts logic for you.
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>>93063087

Probably. Gotta be some places so far out they didn't get the memo, so to speak, that the war is over.
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>Rodimus is now gonna have to eplain to Optimus that he lost Megatron
>Starscream when he realises Megatron is probably happily fucking his alternate universe self right now
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so how will they return to status quo with Megatron gone?
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>>93042344
I'm worred for Jazz

I'm reminded of Sally Floyd's "Myspace" interview with Steve Rogers at the end of Civil War.
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>>93064332
By having him return a few issues later when jro realises Lug/Anode are't really a selling point and people are getting bored/annoyed with Rodimus's stagnating character.
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>>93061699
I thought he'd turn out to be the key to Vector Sigma.
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>>93064404
i don't think you understand how comic production works
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>>93064404
>when jro realises Lug/Anode are't really a selling point

but I thought gay thrived in IDW Transformers?
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>>93064422
Jro gets paid by the book, does he not? If it starts selling less because less people are picking it up, he's gonna bring his main selling point back in so he doesn't get canned.
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>>93064438
Only if it's established characters people give a shit about.
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>>93064458
By that time the damage will be done. He'll be known as the guy who discarded Megatron for a couple dykes. He'll bring him back and they'll see Lug and Anode still get pages and put it back down.
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>>93064458
i'm more talking about how all the issues coming up have already been completed. There's a lead time between production and distribution, comics are not made on the fly week to week or month to month. You're not going to see any sort of published reaction to reader opinion in the span of a few issues.

Not everything works like South Park. In fact, South Park is pretty much the only thing that works like South Park.
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>>93064486
>He'll be known as the guy who discarded Megatron for a couple dykes.
Well you're just a fun person aren't you.
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>>93064512
Well, yeah, he seems to have at least 4-5 issues completed currently given the hints on twitter, but I doubt he has the whole run finished.

Seriously though, who does he think is going to buy the fembot solo adventure when it's just another delay to what people actually wanted to see (mutineers, megatron drama, rod pod squad), starring the characters who fucked up all the pacing of the last arc?
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>>93064594
me. i want to see the fembot adventure.

we were never going to see the mutineers quickly, that was the whole concept of lost light
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>>93064576
I'm not saying I'm calling them dykes. I'm just predicting what the meme woukd probably be. And if Anode was supposed to be the character new readers were supposed to latch onto you can't say I'm that far off the mark.
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>>93064637
But now there's no actual point to the mutiny because Megatron has been trapped in his own megop fanfic.
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>>93064637
Nautica might be cute, but I fear for another bad arc
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>>93064651
I honestly don't see how that works. People who hop onto transformers comics are probably gonna want to see transformers they know about, and are just gonna be fucking confused at what happened this arc.

Say if we'd had a character like bumblebee dragged in from an alt universe in her place, that would be a good jumping on character for new readers.
As it stands she's a pretty "meh" character who cluttered up an arc that was overfull anyway.
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>>93064656
the mutineers don't know that
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There's been another new trailer. It had Wreck-Gar.
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>>93064865
It makes me tired because it seems to bring out the worst in people because of who's drawn doing who.
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>>93064861
there's been like, 2465463457 new trailers, they need to chill the fuck out
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>>93052366
Sooo they become the baddest of asses Justice League of Cybertron in this universe then?
FUCK now I want a mini comic of just that... just the Justice Friends style alternate DJD.
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>>93064891
Same. I like seeing robot men getting fucked in the robot pussy, but every so often tumblr teens decide to start a new crusade over who's robot dick is being rubbed all over who's plating and the good artists start giving up and leaving.
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>>93064921
Dominus sure got bigger and buffer if that's truly him.
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>>93064923
Only thing you can say is it's not just the transformers fandom; same thing is happening in all the other too, especially anything really popular.
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>>93056401
Megatron just shows up on Earth murder fucks Pyra Magna. Slaps Optimus and tells him to get his shit back together "or so help me I will beat you like a redheaded stepchild". Tells the president she is kind of a cunt. Beats Screamer. Obliterates Cobra and Baron Whats-his-Face. Beats Screamer some more. Teleports Getaway and his fuckboys right into a court hearing by the Knights for them.

And then challenges all the Primes to a drinking contest and drinks them under the table for the fate of the Universe.

Then goes home hangs up his helm and has passionate robot sex with his hot robot wife, wakes up the next day and drives his two kids to school before heading out on a superhero adventure with the alternate DJD.

Bends space time to kick Starscream's ass.
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>>93062256
Magnus is going to have a freaking aneurysm...

WHERE DID HE EVEN GET THAT MUCH PAINT!!!????
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>>93064936
He is likely due to his brother the Superman or Batman of the group.
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>>93063092
Lost Light and TAAO had nothing to do with any of the other properties, and Optimus Prime added a grand total of three characters that weren't in it before, two of whom are background character and one that's Marissa's dad. So... how's it dragging down TF, again?
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>>93064171

I have to wonder at what point are they ever getting back in contact, there's no excuse right now for them not to contact Cybertron at least.

Unless Rodimus decided not to until they either get their ship back or the off chance Megatron returns.
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>>93064637

a fembot adventure could be fun if it was much later.

Roberts really underestimate what a lot of fans are more interested in.
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>Tfw the Functionist universe will probably be better than the normal universe overall thanks to Megatron because there is no organic genocide across the universe AND the Decepticon-Autobot war will never happen hence peace for all who would have potentially fought for the dumbest war ever.
>except for Starscream
>and Overlord who will probably always be a deranged madman
Wew.
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Gonna post this and the page featuring the Transformer pets.
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>>93065876
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>>93065888
>no mention of Cosmos
Weak.
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>>93065898
Poor Cosmos is always forgotten.
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>>93050706
The least appealing characters in two back-to-back issues? Blegh. Not picking those up.
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>>93066052
He wants people to like them so badly but doesn't realize the vast majority despise Anode and Lug.
>tfw the new focus character could have been Roller
SIGH.
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>>93064637
So the concept was shit from the beginning?
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>>93065876
Right amount of thigh.
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>>93065784
>>except for Starscream
>>and Overlord who will probably always be a deranged madman

I'm curious how they would work in this continuity.
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>>93066434
Iirc, though it's not the functionist universe per se, Shattered glass Overlord was still a sadist.
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>>93066477
Or would that make og universe Overlord a secret masochist?
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>>93066707

the relaunches only seem to do well the first issue and lose interest fast.


interesting how 45 & 46 we're in the 10,000 range. They were the Scavangers two parter.
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>>93066799
>the relaunches only seem to do well the first issue and lose interest fast.

That's how relaunched work. People get hyped for a new #1 thinking it'll be an easy jumping on point, then they realise that they need to actually read 100 other books before they can get anything and give up.

Relaunches and events are the cancer of modern books. People want a single comic with a single story. Beginning, middle, end, done. No events, no crossover, no nothing.
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>>93066888
>Relaunches and events are the cancer of modern books. People want a single comic with a single story. Beginning, middle, end, done. No events, no crossover, no nothing.
You think they would learn by now. Till this day I wonder why IDW did what they did. If it's not broken why fix it? Exrid and MTMTE were selling fine and renaming them added confusion to anyone hopping on because these books have become so continuity heavy.
The first arc of Lost Light would make absolutely no sense to a newcomer. Optimus Prime would probably be a better jumping on point but it's still pretty continuity heavy.
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>>93067033

exactly.

if they'd stop doing this we'd still have TAAO going.
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>>93061749
Suddenly it all makes sense.
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>>93065888
Posting the rest of the Transformers only from the first issue of the Sourcebook.


You can storytime it in full in a new thread (the short comic is not entirely TF-related by the way).
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>>93067160

To be continued next month (?).
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>>93067138
Why does Onyx Prime have such a huge fetish for Earth?
>tfw Optimus vs. Onyx showdown will just be punching each other over who loves and deserves Earth more
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>>93053858
I know the feeling. So much of season 2 was based around megs and fleshing out his character to be something other than the main big bad of the ft universe.

That said he did take up a tonne of time in that comic so I'll be interested to see the focus shift onto some other characters again. It's a pretty good place to leave megs until he's needed in the main universe again as least Roberts didn't murder him for shock-value.
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>>93067272
>as least Roberts didn't murder him for shock-value.

it's sad when you can say that as a plus.

I mean i'm glad Megatron is alive but still.
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>>93067470
Ouch. This hurts to look at considering I like all these titles with the exception of M.A.S.K. On the brightside if G.I Joe dies we'll get Skywarp back in exrid possibly joining the main cast now that he's willing to help humanity.
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>>93067470
How come the sales for Micronauts 1 and Rom 1 were that high? Did they have that many alternative covers or special editions?
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>>93067548
Rom #1 had 24 covers, Micronauts #1 had 13. I guess that's the secret to success!
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>>93067272
>>93067409
>Killing off Megatron
>Allowed by Hasbro and IDW

Nah man, there's something more infuriating than a major character's death:

Amnesia
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>>93067548
Both originally belonged to Marvel so I can imagine some old fans of the original catching whiff of it and checking it out. Clearly a lot of them weren't satisfied.
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>>93067627
>amnesia
>>93067172 WEW.
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>>93067470
G.I. Joe #4 was released last April. Because of that slow as fuck artist it has basically become a bimonthly comic (unless last-minute fill-in artists intervene).

Also Micronauts #10 and #11 were delayed by a month each, as do the first three issues of Revolutionaries. #4 of the latter title was released last month, and #5 will be next week.
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>>93067619
Man, I would hate to be a completist. A sure path to bankruptcy.
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>>93067727
Even a trade completionist route would drain me.
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>>93067033
>You think they would learn by now. Till this day I wonder why IDW did what they did. If it's not broken why fix it?

Because Hasbro's retarded and are trying for year to use the success of Transformers to launch their other failed propreties into action.

The problem is that every other property they have is shit and is only "fondly" remembered because of nostalgia.

Dreamwave resurected Transformers in comic form because when DW came out the anime & 80nostalgia boom was at it's peak, and they combined the two and that created a momentum for all future comics.

There is no 80s nostalgia anymore among the new comic book reading fans, and the old fans that are nostalgic for the 80s are now bitter angry 40-50 year olds to whome literally ANY change to how they precieved that franchise is deamer childhood rape (see the nigger Trakker, see ROM not having mittens, see geewunn) so there is no way to resurect any of the franchises without a STRONG book.

But a STRONG book demands spectacular writing and good art, something that IDW is not famous for. So they tried to instead artificially create hype by events and using Transformers as jumping on point.

The audience is clearly showing them "we don't want this shit, go back to RID/MTMTE model of old" but IDW is going "lalalalalal can't hear we wan dat (nonexistant) Marvel money"
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Why did IDW think the premise of First Strike would be a good idea?
Cobra invading Cybertron?
Who is this supposed to appeal to? It just pisses me off and I love G.I Joe. It worked for Scioli but that's because Transformers vs. G.I Joe was meant to be nonsensical and absurd.
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>>93067725
The dates shown are cover dates not publication dates. ?,??? means it did not chart, blank means it's forthcoming or the sales data is not yet available from Comichron.
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>>93067774
I like the mental image of a bunch of cobra goons trying to get their annexation taken seriously while being treated like lost pets.
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>>93067843
>they arrive on Cybertron
>realize they were way in over their heads
>run around avoiding getting crushed by these giant robots
>have to scatter into the gutters like roaches in order to avoid getting crushed or killed
>there is now a small population of Cobra soldiers hiding in the sewers of Cybertron in fear and possibly dying of radiation poisoning from all the Cybertronian excrement which is definitely radioactive.
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>>93044712

Wait, what? That was meant to be Optimus?

This is gonna go terribly wrong, of course.

>Shattered Glass confirmed

>>93045244
>I think I'm done with this series now.

Goodbye, sourpuss. I hope you can find something that suits you better.

>>93045319

It seems a little unlikely that this is the end of his story

>TFW Megatron builds up a new, peaceful, just society
>Only to watch it all be torn from him and turned to shit by Optimus Prime after he falls to the Dark Side

"Freedom is the privilege of the powerful."
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>>93067172
wait... WHAT? that's Bee, I don't understand anything
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>>93068017
It's a Eukarian named Centurion who was mind wiped and then convinced he was Bee or something. His original at mode is that of a dinosaur like beast apparently.
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>>93067774

They are banking on 80's nostalgia of "Duuuudue what is like COBRA invaded Cybertron??!!"

Which would work if we were back in 2000s and all of the fans were 20 year olds nostalgic for GI Joe and Transformers.

But we're not. The majority of transformers comic fans don't give a shit about the 80s cartoons or anything 80s related especially not GI Joe, and the fans that would've liked that in 2002 are now like >>93067766 said bittter 40 year olds to whom IDW already raped their childhood to death by making gay robots that don't look like the cartoon.

The Hasbro verse is literally one of the dumbest things IDW ever done that continues to further shit on what made their Transformers comics popular back in 2011. Everyone in change of it should be fired.
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>>93067918
>Only to watch it all be torn from him and turned to shit by Optimus Prime after he falls to the Dark Side
That would be really sad.
It would mean they're always destined to fight each other no matter what. The only Optimus and Megatron who managed to avoid that were the Transtech ones.
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>>93067918
Evil Optimus is becoming a theme now, and he doesn't even have to change his color to black and purple.
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I left off this series with Megatron still being a good guy. Is he still a good guy?
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>>93065876
IDW Arcee is so fucking cool
Should be the standard for future Arcees
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>>93067884
>Starscream gets sick of receiving complaints about stray cobras
>calls the seekers for advice
>Skywarp advises introducing GI Joes to control the population
>Thundercracker just says he has a great idea for a sitcom and hangs up
>Thrust and Dirge remain zombie clones
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>>93068121
Yes.
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>>93068109
Evil mind controlled Optimus has been a thing since G1.
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>>93068208
Sorry I mean nowadays.
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>>93068080
I can't believe they just ruin Heart of Steel like that.
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>>93068109

Rather liking the character renders this time around.

Much more photorealistic.
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Two new series possibly coming up:
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/07/rescue-bots-academy-another-new-transformers-show-coming-soon-341056

Any guesses what the second might be? I just hope that it isn't related to that Combiner wars travesty.
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>>93069676
G1 remake so we can finally appease the grandpas and shut them up for good.
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IDW need a clean slate.

Have ONE ongoing simple titles TRANSFORMERS no subtitles no anything just TRANSFORMERS #1 and NOTHING ELSE for at least 3-4 years until it gathers enough following and interest before even thinking of spreading out to mini series and other bullshit.

Have ONE consistent writing team working on it. At this point (regarless of what people say) that would be Roberts because he's the only one that's well liked by the current comic reading population, that's known outside of transfomers circles. He's their golden cow. Give him a harsher editor that will reign in all of his bullshit, have Barber and Roche in as a co-creators to maybe come up with stories or something.

Have a single CONSISTEN art style for the book for the entire of the run. This is important because kids now fall for the art style as much as they do for the writing, that's why Stone's Windblade did ganbusters while everything since did like shit.

So it means Milne & Perez (or Burcham but his style isn't as popular as JAWSH's overall) as the main art theme with the others like Roche, Sara and the other (NO RAVILIO) as back ups every once in a while.

And the biggest one, as much as I hate to say it, is go back to basics. Autobots VS Decepticons as a secret war on Earth. No GI joe bullshit no other aliens no nothing, just Autobots & Decepticons doing shit with a small main human cast of maybe one or two people.

I know that this sounds super basic and like something we already seen with DW & IDW but that's what's popular now. Just look at DC. People don't want new innovative, groundbreaking stories, they want "legacy" characters acting and looking like "legacy characters". It's one of the main complaint I keep seeing is "this was fun but I want to go back to war".

Once you get enough people on the ride you may start again with someting cool, but this is the only way I can see IDW recaptucting the 2011 spark of MTMTE/RID.
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>>93069866

The only thing that will shut them up is to re-rair G1.
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>>93069676
Wish I could get into Rescue Bots. My friends say it's great but I'm just never driven to pay much attention. Also those designs are pretty fucking ugly looking.

Though it could easily be an "teen/adult" show in the style of Prime to run alongside RID, with whatever is happening with Cybertron. Or a remake of Combiner Wars that isn't all shitty apart from Megatron.
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>>93069939

Won't work anon.

Transformers fans never forgive and never forget. They will NEVER give IDW a chance ever again regardless of what they do or what choices they make now because they did gay robots and bayformers style robots at one point. THEY WILL NEVER FORGIVE.

The only way for Transformers comic to get out of the shitter at this point is to for them to go another company...that the gewuunnigers will hate again because it's not G1 enough.
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>>93069939
This would be a good idea if we weren't so invested in what we already have.
You've basically described early IDW which was fantastic with Furman but again, that already exists and people shold just reread that. What IDW needs to do is just cut it out with the topical political themes which are bogging down the book and making both OP and LL a fucking snore fest.
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>>93070223
Why? 80s Transformers was influenced heavily by energy crisis and late cold-war and middle east wars.
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>>93070387
Because Barber and Roberts don't know how to make it fun anymore nor is it thought provoking. Scott managed to make it fun with Starscreams schemes and Windblade working around that but Scotts book is ending so.
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>>93069866
They will never ever shut up because nothing will ever be good enough for them because it's impossible to make something based off the nostalgia fantasies you get from shows you watched as a kid.
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>>93070223
>we weren't so invested in what we already have.

But people obviously aren't invested in what's happening now. The only reason why anyone is reading it to see "the end" which if the sales continue the way they are now will be in 2 years at best. The hype and excitment of the reborn IDW universe is dead, everyone is going thogh motion now trying to recapture that easly 2012 feel when everything was cool and fresh and there were endless posibilies.

Now there no possibilities. The los light will meanger about, tying up story elements in unsatisfactory manner while referencing shitty sitcoms, TAAO is dead and Optimus is just boring.

IDW needs something new, something cool and something FRESH just like how Barber & Roberts were, and the Hasbroverse isn't that.
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>>93070776
>something based off the nostalgia fantasies you get from shows you watched as a kid.

Even if they do make their mystical G1 cartoon they will only cry "IT'S NOT THE SAME ANYMORE MUH GEEEEEEWUNN!!!!". Just like what happened with Samurai Jack.

Trying to recapture something old will never work, you need to take the old thing and make it feel new.
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>>93069939
>and the other

Kei Zama please.
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>>93070776

You can make a good G1 style show tho.

Take what works from G1, replace what doesn't with some of your own ideas, put in take most of the design ques from the Generations lines, make a good functional TV show and it'll do good.

Bascially do a Voltron. Of course the manbabies will hate it, call it a raper of childhoods and will continue to cry for it and want it to be cancelled so that they can get a TRUE G1 show, only to repeat the same process when the next show comes.
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>>93070828
Thing is that comic books always have highs and lows.I feel the best thing to do while the current IDW comics are still salvageable is to put Barber back on editing, give Roche his own book or co writing with Roberts, give Optimus Prime a competent co writer, and cut out all these events.
I personally wouldn't mind a whole new series altogether, starting over like you suggested, but I sure as hell would be pissed I never saw the conclusion of this established world.
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>>93070990
>You can make a good G1 style show tho.
You can but the budget and amount of time needed to figure out every little thing with the writing to make it work would be off the charts and no one is going to touch that task.
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>>93071012
At this point I'd mostly be pissed if anymore of my favorites were killed or throw away; I'm really only reading each of the books for one character at this point because I'm so tired of the writing. Highs and lows are one thing but if they've killed off everyone you gave two shits about it's hard to feel like getting invested anymore.
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>>93071116
>Skids fan
I understand now.
Or was it Shockwave?
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>>93067470
Why sales variate so much from #1 to #2? People buy #1 only to know how storys begins then just dropped it?
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>>93067160
What happened with Blitzwing? His curretn state is still MASK's hostage?
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>>93071199

People buy it to see if it's a story that they can get into thinking it'll be a continuous story that starts there.

It's like how how if you wanted to read I dunno One Piece you won't start from #345 but from #1.

They they read it, realize that it's not a new story, it's not a clean start and that they need to read 5 events and 5 million other comics that came before it to get it and decide "nope".

It's why say MTMTE managed to be good. You buy #1 and you see that it's a story about a bunch of robot getting on a ship to fly off into adventures. You meet all of the cast right there, you get the story right there and you get a set up. So it's easy to jump in.

It's why Lost Light isn't. You buy the hot new #1 and instead of being greeted with "this is the story we're telling, these are the characters, this is briefly what happened before summed up in 3 pannels" you are greeted by a story 50 issues in the making.
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>>93071171
Ravage actually, but Skids and Shockwave were equally annoying since I liked both as well.
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>>93071291

Lost Light should've started with the Mutineers and Anode joining the Lost Light as a new character/audience as a POV.

Doing the fuctionist universe as a opening was the dumbest of the dumb moves.
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>>93071442
>Lost Light should've started with the Mutineers and Anode joining the Lost Light as a new character/audience as a POV.

That was what Roberts WAS going to do.

Roller or Fangry should have been the POV character for whats going on Rodimus's watch.
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>>93069939

The entirety of Transformers right now is in this retarded state of the comapnies flailing arond now knowing what to do.

It's like with the Sonic franchise the fans are CLEARLY telling them what they want, back to the old Genesis games & lore, but SEGA continued to pump out shitty nonfuncioning Adventure clones for years and year.

Same thing with Transformers. The fans want a new G1-esque cartoon but with a new spin (ala Animated) but they keep getting Bayshit, Power Rangers and whatever the fuck Combiner Wars was.

The fans want to go back to MTMTE/RID style of "semi-creator owned" simple stories that go on and build on themselves with a consisten art style, but they keeping shitty crossovers, events to promote toys up the ass with all Ravioli all the time.

And then Hasbro wonders why nobody buys their toys and goes to 3rd party shit instead. They seem to think that their toys are so good that people want to see them in fiction, instead of the other way around.
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>>93071619
>entire first arc is just a massive rug to sweep Megatron under
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>>93044598
It would be kind of amusing if there was a reversal of the main universe, whereas the Functionist!Orion Pax becomes the next Megatron, like a Shattered Glass type thing.
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>>93072217
Most smart money is on it.
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>It's another "not-the-real-Joe" episode
This is like Revolution all over again but bigger.
I swear the only thing I'm looking forward to in this event is Soundwave since he and Optimus seem to be the main Transformers in this event. More Soundwave is always good.
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Remember when people bought Transformers comics?
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>>93068123
Oh for fucks sake... as Earths humans have proven introducing one invasive species to combat another NEVER FUCKING WORKS! It just makes it worse... so very much worse.

Just dump poison into the sewers until the citizens get sick or start a Human Lives Matter group.
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>>93073025
Remember when some people continued to buy Transformers comics?
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>>93073068
It looks like people stopped buying Transformers comics... I wonder why?
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>>93073102
Mike Costas run scared off the Furman crowd.
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>>93073039
> start a Human Lives Matter group
I'd give a kidney away just to see Starscream do this.
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>>93071784

why couldn't it have been shorter if that's all it's meant to do.
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>>93073025
>>93073068
>>93073102
Anon none of these had digital sales like we do now right? Not exactly a good example until we get the current digital sales tallies...which IDW wont give us for some reason.
But either way both Roberts and IDW have comment before that with the digital sales added in books like mtmte and TAAO are doing well and they're happy with them. No comment on the Transformers book but I imagine its doing just as well or better.
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>>93074333
>Not exactly a good example until we get the current digital sales tallies...which IDW wont give us for some reason.
No publisher gives sales figures, anon. Even the physical ones are just estimates done by one site.
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>>93068123
Dirge is alive and well on Cybertron. Ramjet is the zombie clone.
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>>93074581
And Thrust.
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>When July sales data came in, it turned out All Hail Megatron #1, the heavily-promoted new-reader-friendly jump-on point to draw in New Readers... had sold one copy less than Devastation #1 in the North American direct market.
>>93074581
>>93068123
Dirge and Thurst aren't zombie clones, they're just straight up dead. The seeker drones are recreations, not reanimations or legit clones.
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>>93074556
Might be a stupid question but why dont they give those out?
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>>93074581
My bad, coneheads are seldom mentioned so I get them confused.
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>>93074622
>Dirge and Thurst aren't zombie clones, they're just straight up dead.
Anon, I just said Dirge isn't dead. His last appearance was hanging out at Wheeljack's comeback party.
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>>93074879
Shit I fucked up, I meant Ramjet and Thrust
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>>93074696
>Might be a stupid question but why dont they give those out?
Because publishers have no reason to share them with the public.
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>>93074906
the same could be said for print numbers. it's just weird to share one and not the other
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>>93074930
Anon, as said in the earlier post, they don't share print numbers. Those are just estimates done by a site based on Diamond's rankings.
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>>93074333
TAAO is cancelled after #12. IDW obviously figures digital sales into their profitability estimates. Do Lost Light's sales look substantially better to you? Do you think Lost Light has a bigger proportion of digital sales compared to TAAO?
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MEGATRON GONE
FINALLY
I hate Roberts' Megatron. It's so OOC and squicky.
I hope Lost Light gets back on track now.
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I do not understand who said that Revolution has damaged ransformers. You are not required to read the other titles to understand the comics of Transformers, maybe Revolutionaries that you would be forced to read and this is practically a comic of Transformers because of the 4 main characters 3 are characters of Transformers (and the writer is Jon Barber).
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>>93075767
>copy-pasting from that favored website
For what purpose?
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https://previewsworld.com/Article/195468-Lasting-Impressions-From-A-Furious-First-Strike#.WTlywRwabZU.twitter

It was Steven Speilberg and George Lucas who warned Hollywood that super special effects spectaculars did not a movie make. The film had to have soul. It had to breathe. The same could be said for comics. Sure, you could get, like, these cool Hasbro toys you used to play with as a kid, and bash them together to say “Cool! Megatron just crushed Snake Eyes’ head!” But would it a comic make? The answer for making such an over-the-top Hasbro toy story — if you were writers Mairghread Scott and David Rodriguez — would be to make an epic tale that’s big on action, as well as big on pulling on the heart strings. This one-two punch is what truly makes a great comic, and in this PREVIEWSworld Exclusive interview with both writers, they tell us how they crafted IDW Publishing’ First Strike (JUN170430), which hits comic shops near you on August 9.

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Vince Brusio: What core idea helped to first strike sparks for this story? How did the concept of this Hasbro crossover first begin, and then grow to the point where it took two writers to make it all fit?

Mairghread Scott: The core concept is two-fold: IDW and Hasbro very much wanted G.I. Joe on Cybertron – a fight so big it dragged all the other Hasbro brands into it, and that idea is super-fun! The two franchises have a long history together and it’s definitely something I was interested in exploring. But I wanted to bring a second, more personal, layer to the story and so we hit on our central theme. Scarlett, the head of G.I. Joe is now being pitted against her own mentor, Joe Colton, who seems to be hell-bent on dragging Earth into an interplanetary war!
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>>93075912
Finally, the fans are getting what they've been clamoring for: human beings on Cybertron. Next stop, the Lost Light!
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So it’s not just a question of saving the Transformers, or saving all of Earth, it’s also a question of saving one man in the midst of this who means the world to you. Is it really Colton doing this? Could he be brainwashed or coerced? If not, can he be redeemed? That balance is one we’re really striving for in this book. Big action, but with a big heart behind it.

David Rodriguez: It gives the entire story a great, emotional core. We’re all for piles of ninjas (so many ninjas) and explosions, but having this conflict that the series pivots on grounds it in stakes that are relatable on a human level. And to make matters more interesting, Colton is not a supervillain with a grandiose or cartoonish plan. He is thoughtful, tactical and incredibly dangerous. He’s spent years planning and assembling the execution of this mission. And Scarlett knows that Colton would not have pulled the trigger unless he knew he had a reasonable shot at pulling this off. So even though the Transformers think the humans pose little to no threat to Cybertron, the reality is that the entire planet is in very real and immediate danger.

Mairghread Scott: In terms of our collaboration, David and I are on several projects and it was important to us that this book not get dragged out or delayed in any way. Two writers ensure the writing not only gets done faster, but has a second set of eyes to keep all our other moving parts moving properly. There’s an added bonus in that David is a bit more dialogue-focused and I’m a bit more action-driven. Together we keep up a good banter while still giving you great visuals on every page.
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David Rodriguez: We were also able to combine our knowledges when passing scripts back and forth. Mairghread is a Transformer-Pedia of knowledge and has such a handle on all of those characters and I've spent a lot of time absorbing Joe and M.A.S.K lore (from sometime in the 80's if we want to get really specific) that it really streamlines our process. There have been several times already where I've counted on Mairghread to just know things... like what a Camien would use for an expletive, which is a very handy thing to know! Between us we are able to juggle and refine the great big pile of characters from the Hasbro Universe that all appear in First Strike.

Vince Brusio: What can you tell us about the characters in this story, both the A-List stars, and the supporting characters? Is there an ego war getting in the way of the real one?

Mairghread Scott: Well, fighting global genocide should never take away from petty squabbling. Naturally our primary heroes (Scarlett and her team from G.I. Joe, Matt and Gloria from MASK, Soundwave and Optimus from Transformers) get along fairly well, they’re not without conflict. Lady Jaye throws a lot of shade at people and Soundwave is not a fan of humans, but his character is weirdly adorable. (He’s really trying to be respectful of these vastly inferior, squishable things but…ugh.)

On the bad guys’ side, keeping competing minds like Storm Shadow from GI Joe and Shazraella from Micronauts (who gets a big upgrade in our story) together is a tall order. Miles Mayhem totally lives up to his name and it’s a joy to write whenever he gets cut down a peg. But they’re not the only people causing trouble. Elita One ends up throwing a wrench in everyone’s works when she steamrolls in with her own agenda. Let’s just say she makes Starscream seem like an upright citizen.
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I'm always asking myself, why is it that Transformers comics spend so much time focusing on the robots? Why not add some human characters?
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>>93075912
Does IDW hate us? Why do they do the exact opposite of what anyone wants. Humans make sense on Earth which is why they're completely acceptable and even likeable in Optimus Prime since they assist in reminding you that these are indeed, aliens. But Cybertron? WHY?
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David Rodriguez: The twins (Skyburst and Stormclash) might be my new favorites. I wasn't really familiar with them before the series, but after researching them and seeing them in action in the story I am totally smitten. They have so much energy in their designs and personality that its hard not to enjoy every panel that they're on. But what is great about the human characters is that they hold their own in every scene. Any normal person would be dwarfed (in every sense) by the Transformers, but there really isn't anything “normal” about Scarlett and her team. They rise to the occasion and stand shoulder to shoulder with their robot allies. (Well, metaphorically. In the literal sense they sometimes stand on their shoulders. But that's purely tactical). The other duo that caught me by surprise are Stormshadow and Shaz. They need to have their own, buddy-villain, spin-off after this is said and done. Luckily vans and talking animals are easy to come by.

Vince Brusio: The scale of this story is huge, and the solicitation text tells us to expect a high Transformer body count. So what were some of the models reviewed in creating this level of destruction among the machines? Or was it more fun to discard the templates, and throw all the players together to see what rust bucket was most likely to be the last one standing? You know, Fantasy Football style.

David Rodriguez: I don't think we pre-planned out any deaths or destructions of any specific characters and there weren't any mandates for characters to be scrapped or anything. (Except for Wheelie. If he shows up, I don't know what's going to happen to him.) But in all seriousness, we knew which characters we got to play with when we started and we knew the end point. There was still plenty of room within those boundaries for exploration and surprise and anything that happens, including fatalities, are to serve the story and not meet a body count expectation.
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Man, I remember S2 starting pretty well. Fleshed out the new characters and the another Lost Light was extremely strong with mood. And "there is no Alternate Universe" meme was fun AF. But then pretty much every other arc fell flat.
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Mairghread Scott: Writing, for me at least, isn’t quite that mystical an experience. Characters tend to speak in fairly consistent speech patterns, so it’s more about reading what’s been written to pick out people’s mindsets rather than a spiritual communion. Roadblock is famous for his delightful asides and Aubrey clearly saw Lady Jaye as the kind of woman who always has a sly comment on the situation. On the other hand, Brandon wrote a really warm character in Matt Trakker whose central conflict is focused on not wanting to be manipulated. Soundwave is a very earnest character and has really come a long way now that he’s joined forces with Optimus, but he still spent years thinking humans weren’t even really worth calling alive; that doesn’t just go away.

I think there’s a dangerous myth in the comics industry that the writer is a channel for some kind of shamanistic zeitgeist, but that kind of mindset (in my view) leads to rather pedantic storytelling. Stories are about people and we’re trying to show that these brands aren’t just gimmicks to sell toys, they’re vibrant tales of people fighting for what they believe in. They just all believe in different things.

David Rodriguez: I agree with Mairghread. If you know the characters, if you understand the things they love, hate, fear and so forth, then you can write them from an informed place and understand how they'd react in most situations. You can make them relatable. The particular speech patterns and personalities of these characters have been pretty well established by a lot of great writers, so it helps to do your homework so that you can stay on voice. But if you guys DO locate any shamanistic zeitgeist out there that will help me hit deadlines, please hook me up.
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>>93076001
>Does IDW hate us?
Yeah. You were supposed to start forking over money for the six new ongoings, not stop buying the original two!
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>>93076013
>fatalities
>characters are going to die during an event
WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

Also I'm placing my bets on Ironhide.
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Vince Brusio: What is it about this story that made you want to jump off a bridge? Or do you remember having the exact opposite experience? Was there a time during production that you were so proud of yourself that you were ready to renounce your citizenship and book a ticket to Cybertron?

David Rodriguez: The experience has been fantastic and the team is amazing. It's also been a little overwhelming working on a series of this scope with these icons. But you forget any and every stressful part of the process when one of Max's awesome pages shows up and brings one of our ideas to life. No matter what size a character is supposed to be gets the scale right. And then he puts so much detail and humor into the pages that seeing them appear in my mailbox is a high point of my day. It almost makes me forget how many plates we've got spinning with these multiple continuities and making sure we don't drop any in the process.

Mairghread Scott: Well, there is certainly a lot of moving parts and continuities to sort through, but David Hedgecock, Carlos Guzman and John Barber has kept us far enough away from the edge. I think what I’m most proud of is being able to write an event book that you’ll love even without any of the tie-ins. We wanted to be the story fans looked forward to, not the required reading they had to get through before they got back to their own lines and I think we nailed that. So if you’re reading every book IDW’s ever put out, or you’ve never jumped in our end of the pool before, First Strike is a great read that gives you the flavor of a lot of our lines while still delivering on a story all its own.
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IDW's going to have a Literally Whoman kill your favorite Transformer in a big dumb crossover with five 80s properties you don't care about. It's what the fans demand!
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>>93076054
>I think there’s a dangerous myth in the comics industry that the writer is a channel for some kind of shamanistic zeitgeist, but that kind of mindset (in my view) leads to rather pedantic storytelling. Stories are about people and we’re trying to show that these brands aren’t just gimmicks to sell toys, they’re vibrant tales of people fighting for what they believe in. They just all believe in different things.

What the hell does this mean?
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>>93076119
Dude! That's just what I wanted!
>Random Cobra Mook blows up Blurrs bar with 20 bots inside including Blurr himself
EPIC.
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>>93076185
Don't worry though, the ghost of Blurr will become a regular character in M.A.S.K. vs The Inhumanoids.
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>>93076172
Philosophy of an airhead.
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Do you guys ever sit back and think about how there's an apocalyptic event on Cybertron literally every month. These people have rebuild their houses from rubble everytime. What is even the point of migrating here from any of the colony worlds?
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I think that writers should write good scripts and artists should draw good art. But what the fuck do I know, I read Transformers comics.
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>>93076274
At least it's got energon. That's also why they keep going back to Earth.
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>>93076119
Is Literally Whoman at least a cute girl Transformer?
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>>93076367
No it's Matt Trakker.
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>>93076399
Can Matt Trakker at least be kidnapped by a bad guy organization and turned into a cute monster girl cyborg against his will?
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>>93076461
Simon, is that you?
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>>93067172
wait does this mean that Optimus Primal is...??
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>>93075988
I know, right? I sure can't relate to all of them robbuts, so I'll need a human POV character or seventy.
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>>93075958
Who the fuck is the bot on the left?
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>>93076783
It actually kind of looks like Antagony???
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>>93076474
WAY too skinny for that.
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>>93076274

I don't think there have been that many since Cybertron came alive.

There have been a few riots, Megatron's final bid for control, the exploding energy due to Luna 1 not being around, Metroplex almost killing everyone outside of him, some combiner on combiner action, the titans' return, and finally First Strike.

Anyone know the in-universe dates for those?
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>>93076053
After issue 40, it begins to lose focus.

The Scavangers issues, 47, the holiday special and 50 were great but it's been uneven or crap since.
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>>93067172
>>93076515

Huge if true.
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>>93075686
If it does, it's likely to be very slight. It does seem to sell in trades somewhat, however. Well, MTMTE did. I don't see LL doing as well. The interest just isn't there in general, I think.
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>>93076013
>le epic wheelie meme
Finger on the pulse, guys.
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>>93075985
>Elita being a bigger bitch than Starscream
I like it.
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>>93077847
Which have been talked about as if they are months apart if not years.
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>>93075912
>Hasbro very much wanted G.I. Joe on Cybertron – a fight so big it dragged all the other Hasbro brands into it, and that idea is super-fun!
>a fight so big it dragged
>super-fun!
This is either Hasbro propaganda or she really is an incredibly stupid person.

>>93076119
>>93076185
>>93076251
I hate IDW and all these shitty little hasbro properties so much right now.
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>>93076013

Hey, if it gives us more Rust Renegade character development for someone who ISN'T Pyra Magna...I'm up for it.
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>>93079854
Im certain it's months and not years seeing how in OP they bring said catastrophes.
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>>93065916
Hey, Barber has been shipping Soundwave and Cosmos together lately.

And I'm diggin it.
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>>93067803
Who the fuck cares about cover dates in this day and age?
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>>93081564
The table looks prettier when it shows when the comics were supposed to come out instead of when you could actually buy them.
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>>93042116
Don't badmouth Lost Light. It's excellent. I didn't get into All are one, but Lost Light is perfect Transformers. The only flaw with the two comics is the writers keep pushing their "robots in love" nonsense. There's a number of different things they could be doing, things mentioned in the cartoon, and that's not any of them.
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>>93081683
What if it's actually not good, though? What if it's bad?
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>>93081231
It's only a matter of time before Optimus tries to cuck Cosmos.
Titans Return and Revolution got pretty cozy with those two.
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>>93073632
I know... it would be just so fucking stupidly funny.
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>>93081867
Then I'm reading a different comic from what you are reading. Possibly including some sort of a parallel universe version of the "More than meets the eye" series because it was consistently good.
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>>93082122
MTMTE was good for a couple years. Then it was bad! And Lost Light is worse; I don't like the art, I don't care about Anode, and I don't care about Megatron anymore.
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Saw someone bring this up. Six sparks in those flowers. Rung's crystals can hold a spark. All those dead cybertronians could be possibly brought back, six at a time, using cold constructed bodies. This got me wondering as well, that if you could make synthetic sentio metallico and recreate the hotspot conditions, what would happen to a constructed cold spark. Would a flyer actually be naturally aquatic or a grounder or a microscope?
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>>93083890
There aren't sparks in the flowers, just residual energy from the sparks.
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>>93084599
Then explain Lug 2.0.
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>>93084618
Remains to be seen if it's literally just going to be Lug in a new body or essentially a completely new being.

Also, didn't the issue make it clear this process is actually something pretty hard to do?
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>>93084762
Yes but they also explicitly said they isolated her spark.
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>>93084806
Earlier issues also explicitly said it's just residual spark energy in the flowers.

Roberts probably isn't going to follow up on this at all, especially when it'd make death much more of a joke in IDW.
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>>93083890
>Six sparks in those flowers.
12, and only a fragment of energy
>All those dead cybertronians could be possibly brought back,
Not all of them, Lug wasn't in there long enough to degrade enough, as far as we know
>Would a flyer actually be naturally aquatic or a grounder or a microscope?
Body swapping shows people can adjust enough
>>93084618
>>93084762
We don't even know if she'll come out mentally healthy, considering she's only got a sliver of soul. As far as I can remember, the only time a spark's been artificially split was BW Rampage, who a) had a special spark and b) is in a different universe with different rules
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Fuck these shitty crossover events.
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>>93084858
You don't need to copy Windows, you just need to copy all the personal data, the unique things. It is a point that we don't know what the side effects and after-effects of getting more thoroughly killed than Starscream, will be.
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>>93086137
u wot m8
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I like the idea of crossover.
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>>93086659
Do you like the harsh reality of crossover?
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