Comics have become so mature and progressive. And here I thought

Man, I really hope Slott dies in agony.

>>93027680
Better take the rest of Marvel's writers with him

>>93027650
Bobbi with powers was a mistake

>>93027650

I hate literally everything about this page.

>>93027650
>Slott will still be on ASM after legacy
>Slott will still be writing ASM fifty years from now
>Slott will write ASM forever

>>93027650
How does that even make sense in-character?

>>93027650
Wait I get it now. Peter is autistic but doesn't know he is yet. Slott will end his run with the diagnosis.

>>93027650
This is funny. It's sarcasm, isn't it?

What are comic books children read?
Moongirl, DC super hero girls, something else?

>>93028732
It doesn't.

>>93029868
my LCBS has a section for "children's comics" and they're all based on cartoons.

>>93027650

Okay seriously what the fuck even is this. Just...Fucking kill me

>>93029826
Yes. It's Spider-man. He makes jokes. That's his thing. People just like to get offended by things so they're pretending like this is SUPER SERIOUS SJW PROPAGANDA instead of just a dumb joke.

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>>93027650
Is this parody?
Is this operating on at least two maybe three layers of irony?
Or is it as straightforwardly bad as it seems?

>>93029936
Bad as it seems.

>>93029868
Squirrel Girl. Cartoon tie-ins.

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Capes talking about social issues is as old as the 70s.

>>93027825
The art's pretty good.

>>93029936

It is legitimately as bad as it seems, however those who wish to defend it will cite spiderman's personality and claim it's meant to be a joke.

You see this way they can get that sweet sweet sjw message across, and people who don't like it can just say "eh it's spiderman he wasn't serious"

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>>93029931
Nope, he was being dead serious. They actually drop what they were doing specifically because Peter felt awkward about hitting people who aren't even a minority. This is the page directly after.

>>93027650
>Comics have become so mature and progressive.
>/co/mblr at its finest
Dude, come on, it's a fucking sarcasm... I think.

>>93029982
Yeah but that's the point- Green Arrow has been socially conscious since the beginning. For Spider-man to suddenly become so WoOoOoOoOoKe out of nowhere is out of character

>>93029982
If we're operating by your logic, then wouldn't that mean people should use Spider-Man as a tool to support right wing beliefs?

I mean, personally I think all politics should be pushed avoiding in comics currently, but this is the logic you're operating on, considering Ditko.

>>93029982
green arrow used to be uniquely liberal now everyone is more left than Ollie.

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>>93029868
Anything by Raina Telgemeier. I think she makes a million dollars in book sales. In case you're wondering, it's not worth reading her shit unless you're a little girl or a librarian in charge of the kids section..

>>93030021

well it's not like they made flash a liberal or anything. I don't recall peter ever having his political views as a major visible component of his character.

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>>93030107
Ditko's Peter was an apolitical guy who thought college protestors were a bunch of fools.

>>93027650
Leave it to Slott to bring down one of the most popular characters in the world at 60k sales. Meanwhile FF was ''officially'' cancelled for selling below 40k.

>>93029982
I don't understand this 70's talk

Why does he want him specifically because he's black if not to be a token

Why is this so important to him that he has to be half obscured in shadow

Why are 2 different characters both against someone being against tokenism

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>>93030107
Ditko's objectivist views leaked into the character. Later on Stan picked up on this and would edit text post production to make Peter say exactly the opposite of what Ditko wanted him to say. This caused a lot of fighting between the two and awkward moments in the comic. One page Peter would be acting like a right winger, then the next he'd be acting like a lefty. This ultimately led to Ditko quitting, but the fact of the matter remains that the creator of the character wanted him to share his objectivist views.

>>93029891
Yes it does, if he's joking.
Never crossed your minds, huh?

>>93030254
He's not. >>93029995

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>>93030107
>>93030204
For an example of what I mean, Ditko would have moments like this.

>>93030254
>H-He was joking guys!!

You shills aren't even trying anymore.

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>>93030294
But then moments later, Stan would edit the text later on to reveal that Peter didn't mean what he said.

>>93030294
That sequence wasn't by Ditko but >>93030204 was.

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>>93030318
But then it's evident that the original purpose was for Peter to be in disagreement, because later on Ditko would go on to demonize the protesters. Then the process would repeat.

>>93030303
>shills
Nice job removing any validity that your post could ever have, moron.

>>93029826
You have a pretty low bar for comedy.

>>93029826
>>93029931
>>93030254
What a fucking disgraceful attempt at defending that comic.

>>93030268
She obviously mentioned the guys wearing masks place because it was already in the plans to go there. Or you think they just dropped their job and went around Hong Kong looking for illegal activities with masked men?

>>93030380
Sure thing, shill.

>>93030406
Yes, that's exactly what they did. Did you not read the damn comic? The entire reason they were doing that was because they were going around beating random thugs to get information about where Goblin was, only to find out he was within Parker Industries the whole time (like always)
Seriously, fuck this Tony Stark lite crap.

>>93030294
You do realize Ditko would draw it so Stan thought Peter was saying something counterculture then after the dialogue was written Ditko would do the finished drawing and Peter would be speaking the "establishment is good/positive" phrase or talking shit about he protestors.

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>>93030424
I think, you're lost. Here is echo-chamber you're looking for, inbreed mother fucker.
>>>/pol/

>>93027650
Jesus fuck, that's racist.

>>93030203

Two different ideas, and I am going to throw some shade in explaining them in order to be brief.

Diversification vs Tokenism.

On the one hand you can naturally include people not normally included by keeping those people in mind when it comes to evaluation. Tokenism is including someone because you are looking to fill a quota.

So I assume this was happening when the league had humans who were only white on it and people were pointing it out. So Arrow suggests Black Lightning because not only is he capable, but because his inclusion also diversifies the league.

Flash implies Arrow is doing it only to fill the quota, which upsets Arrow because Arrow tries to be socially aware. Also the wording MIGHT imply the flash is racist.

To see a real world example of diversity vs tokenism compare and contrast how Marvel and DC handle the introduction of new characters, especially minorities.

>>93030496
>THIS IS A JOKE GUYS
>SHILL
>G-GO BACK TO /pol/

My mistake, you're not a shill, you're a half-assed shill, in panic.

>>93029982
Ollie was always a dirty hippie faggot hypocrite and I say that as a leftist.

I thought this was funny. You guys are really pushing it.

>>93030464
No, I didn't, only the two pages posted here. And they didn't convince me he was being totes serious. Considering it's Spider-man delivering that dialogue, mostly.

>>93030575
That's not me, it's a consensus that you're a retard.

>>93027650
This reminds me of people complaining about the FMA live action movie having non-european actors in it
>"omggggg this is so shit edward and al are obviously european why are they casting japanese people for thissssssssss"
>"yellow washing hurrr ba durrrrrrrrrr"
>japanese studio based on japan

>>93030643
>That's not me

Sure it isn't.

>>93029982
I dont understand this page. What is Ollie's intention here? He clearly wanted the guy in because he's black. Why is he getting offended that people are calling him out for it?

>>93030615
>And they didn't convince me he was being totes serious.

Bullshit.

>>93030204
>This ultimately led to Ditko quitting
Ditko left because he wasn't getting the royalties for the Spider-Man cartoon.

He and Stan did feud from time to time, but those feuds were not what made him quit.

>>93030643
>>93030496

>>93030780
See
>>93030563

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>>93030773
Here, inbred negro scaly wag.

Ditko is given too much credit. The Romita/Lee issues are all way better, with the exception of the master planner saga.

>>93030912
>>93030496
>accuses someone of being from /pol/
>then acts racist

Highly suspicious

>>93030987
Just because I'm tolerant, doesn't mean that I'm blinded by PC/SJW propganda.

>>93031093
You're defending the comic, so you're definitely blinded by it, /pol/.

>>93029868
This isn't a children's book, dumbass.

This ain't your grandpa's faggot ass kiddie comics.

This comic is DEEP and MATURE (like me).

>>93027825
I like Mockingbird's design.

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>>93032375
The deepest and most mature comic.

>>93030204
Stan only edited the text because Ditko would change the fucking characters on Lee and make Peter in line with the establishment, it's easy to see when you notice how certain characters are talking like Lee had intended Peter to be the voice of reason/support.

>>93027650
>Slott has written ASM longer than Roger Stern

Kill me now.

>>93033628
Slott's going for the record. Marvel will have to drag him off screaming before he gives it up.

>>93029982
Except Ollie is defined by his obnoxious and hypocritical sjw behavior. He always has.

Slapping it into random dialogue to make a point is entirely different.

>>93030152
He stayed that way in later Lee/Romita and Conway stuff. Peter's focused on his own life, and just straight up doesn't care about whining all over campuses and streets about things.

>>93033678
They're gonna need a few trucks if they want to drag Slott away.

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>>93027761