Can someone explain the "Carol Danvers is a shit hero" meme to a relative outsider?
What all has she done to earn he rep? As a base breaker, both to piss off millions and at the same time earn some unwavering admiration from select fans?
Carol thread right?
>>92941936
Carol was best when she was killed people and drank a lot and fucked up everything
Now there's a new captain marvel named Carl Danvers who's nothing like Carol and he sucks
Illuminated thread?
>>92942048
>>92942048
Whenever I think he's reached his peak, he manages to hit it even further out the park.
>>92941936
>Roman Reins of the Marvel universe
>Keeps being pushed because of Brie Larson movie
>Not gaining traction
>Civil War 2
>Takes the side of a Inhuman because he can see the future
>Locks up most people like Minority Report
>Tries to cover up some of the Inhuman's premonition were wrong
>Tries to lock up Miles because of a a vision
>Almost kills Tony who was holding back
>Tony is a vegetable because of her.
>Also gets War Machine killed and almost kills She-Hulk when they try to take on Thanos because of a vision of Thanos killing people.
>Banner killed because of her.
Basically you inject a character into every plot and it only makes the reader sick of her. To put the icing on the cake you make her an unreasonable bitch who gets people killed.
>>92942255
Carol did nothing wrong, Tonyfag.
>>92942255
Civil War II Carol was totally in character
>>92942322
>>92942255
>>92942109
>>92942428
>>92941936
She began as a D-list extra in the Captain Marvel mythos. Genis-Vell and Rick Jones was known more as Captain Marvel than her. A major turning point in the character's life was when Busiek put her on his Avengers and made her a drunken failure who got kicked off the team for being a drunken failure.
Bendis liked her for some reason and she started to get pushed a lot appearing in his Avengers, in Superhero Squad, in the Ultimate Alliance games, and its probably from these that people know her the most from.
Cue current Marvel where the company is hungry for lefty virtue signalling good boy points and badly wants a big, powerful, showy female to be their Wonder Woman equivalent that isn't a mutant or Susan Storm. Given her status as "the chick in the Marvel games that throws energy and is on the Avengers" Carol was a natural choice for a push.
So she started to be pushed as this big time hero-even being called the greatest and most popular in-universe hero in some books. This of course clashed with her previous characterization as a loser. She got a dyke cut to virtue signal to the lefty crowd and became the idol of their new hip young new reader introduction character Kamala Khan.
Then comes Civil War 2 where she's basically in Tony's position from Civil War 1 where she does an awful lot that should put her in jail for the rest of her life but is forgiven for plot reasons.
People hate her because Marvel keeps trying to push her and it doesn't work and they can't find a balance for the character's personality so she oscillates from perfect idol to dictator bitch to drunken loser.
She's Marvel's Roman Reigns basically.
>>92943170
>Busiek put her on his Avengers and made her a drunken failure who got kicked off the team for being a drunken failure.
And then got into AA, cleaned herself up and became a great hero again. Including winning the world war against Kang.
>>92942669
>>92943170
You forgot the time when she was raped by the guy she ended up giving birth to. Or the time when Rogue took her powers and put her in a coma.
>>92941936
Just DCbros spreading the false rumor because Carol is more interesting and better character than Wonder Woman. Don't believe a word.