Wow I never thought I'd see a DCEU film that 100% understands

>>92915907
I thought the soundtrack would be trash since Zimmer and Junkie weren't involved, but got a pleasant surprise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmxDWGjnJsk
It actually sounds a lot like Junkie's work. I'm also glad the movie wasn't "anti-men" like the semen slurpers at /tv/ were claiming, though I guess given the events of present DCEU it couldn't ever have been that

>>92915947
feminist director really made her shine since no guy could have done it better

>>92915947
This is what MoS should have been, really.

>>92915998
/co/ is going to eat you alive for this but I agree. You can tell Jenkins spent a lot of time studying Diana. Snyder would have made her into another depressed one dimensional killer.

>>92915947
>Shield and sword
Not 100%

>>92916149
The sword gets destroyed. Now its just lasso and shield

>>92916063
i hated MoS, liked it for a bit, then am deeply disappointed in it after having seen WW

>>92916063
Nah, I still love MoS for what it is. The only thing I hate about the movie is how some of the scenes were obviously rush-edited; an extended cut for MoS would be top tier

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>>92915947
Real talk, I'd like to actually enjoy a DCEU movie instead of shitpost endlessly about how bad it was.

Gadot can't act. I've seen BvS, the one Furious movie she was in and Joneses. Is she actually good in this? Like, she somehow learned how to not do pic related?

Also I'm a huge Ruckafag, is there anything from his 2000s run in this movie?

>>92915998
Fucking this. I am so goddamn glad that for once the focus on a strong, independent lead woman was actually done well and RECEIVED well, because usually it's a fucking shitshow.

>>92916547

All movies you mentioned were bad movies. Looks like she needed a competent director.

>>92916547
This has Post-COIE Ares but Diana has her New52 origin (kinda, she's Zeus' daughter, her mother lies to her that she's made from clay).

>>92916547
She still needs to work on her acting but she's not terrible. She does do your pic related alot. I'm starting to think that's just how she naturally looks because she couldn't stop doing it.

She's charming and cute when she's acting naive which is most of the film but a little eh when it comes to serious scenes.

>>92915991
>wasn't anti-men

Thank the lord. Some writers and people nowadays seem to confuse feminism with anti-masculinity. I'm actually excited to see a good movie now.

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>>92916063
>>92916283
>>92915947
>MoS doesn't understand the character

>>92916283
>>92916063
>>92915947
>Just because there was a dark tone at times somehow means it wasn't sincere like WW


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAva_gO8Qk

>>92917656
>posts a fucking reaction video

But does she have an ICONIC moment?

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>>92917663
and? Is a baby's enjoyment not one of the most sincere things ever? Babies cant fucking lie. But here, more in-movie proof.

>>92917748
Yes

>>92915947
yeah, all it took was Snyder not directing

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>>92917808

>>92915947
The score was thrash compared to bvs and Mos, but that's only due the fact bvs and Mos had fantastic scores, it's funny sumer name name dbatman didn't got themes, but bvs's wondy song is the best song in the WW movie

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>>92917934
hahah you are so right, fuck Superman for letting badguys create collateral damage and not being 100% perfect and avoiding damage like he is in the comics... oh wait....

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>>92917934
Superman's battles OFTEN get big and destructive anon, read more comics...

>>92917808
Babies are kinda dumb. You can make them smile just by smiling at them.
Anyway, you have a good DCEU movie now. You don't have to pretend anymore.

>>92916149
I know you retards don't get it, but the sword and shield are not just cool bullshit, those are there to make her look really different from superman, all league characters have extremely distinctive features and design styles and that's its a good thing, cyborg thought, looks like shit, becouse they really didn't want to make him look like iron man.

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>>92917934
>things get destroyed in a battle of super people

SAY IT AINT SO!

>>92917995
That picture you posted isn't collateral damage.
Collateral damage is third party. This is him attacking the bad guy directly.

Although Zack doesn't know the difference either (his star wars comment) so I can understand your confusion.

>>92918049
we have 3 good ones now

>>92918085
wow you are retarded, pic was related to THIS part of the sentence "not being 100% perfect and avoiding damage"


you a dumb monkey

>>92918049
>hurr durr the movie is bad because a baby liked it


sad...

>>92917995
10k or 100k died in the death of superman arc, 3 millions died in DC one million, people isn't mad at superman, is mad at zack showing destruction porn that everybody loves as something grim and terrible.

>>92918085
>Collateral damage is third party.

No...

"Collateral damage is a general term for deaths, injuries, or other damage inflicted on an unintended target. In American military terminology, it is used for the incidental killing or wounding of non-combatants or damage to non-combatant property during an attack on a legitimate military target."
Collateral damage is any damage done to the unintended target you retard

>>92918156
yes exactly, people cant handle it when a movie actually shows destruction porn as a bad thing with negative consequences.


They want consequence free superhero movies.

>WW
>character
Yeah, her character is so good that a thread about it can be easily taken over by talk about a different character only a few posts in.

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>>92917934
>>92918085

>>92918165
>"Collateral damage is a general term for deaths, injuries, or other damage inflicted on an unintended target.
...Uh. Yes. Exactly.
And the intended target in the picture I'm replying to is the guy driving that car.
So it's not collateral damage.

>>92918127
Nor is it a problem if he damages a bad guy's shit. It's only when innocent people get hurt that it becomes questionable.

>>92918140
It's not bad because a baby liked it. It's just not good because a baby liked it. It's nothing. It's neutral.

>>92917635
But that's BvS

>>92918255
>It's only when innocent people get hurt that it becomes questionable.


Anon, this happens all the time. See >>92918156
and read more comics

>>92918345
>implying the rabid haters differentiate between the two

as far as they are concerned its all the same snyder shit

>>92918185
We see Clark breaking an small mountain with his head and not being damaged in first flight, not even his hair moves, I really don't understand what they expect from a fight between two kryptonians. I do believe the kiss should had been less romantic and portrayed as two people seeking confort, that was a problem with Snyder direction and a real valid criticism

>>92918057
She has lasso and bracelets. She doesn't need that shit

>>92918255
>well thats not TECHNICALLY collateral damage....

like that in anyway proves the larger point? You are arguing semantics like a child.

Superman never hurt any civilians in the movies, you dumb ass

>>92918417
>and portrayed as two people seeking confort

But it wasnt just that. They just destroyed the terminating scout ship and are feeling relieved and happy they just saved THE WORLD. People have a hard time with context.

>>92917635
>>92917656

not what im saying anon

>>92918109
>DCEUfag can't count

Wonder Woman is one honey.

>>92918185
>"Muh powers have consequences!" meme

Edgy.

>>92915947
>Wow I never thought I'd see a DCEU film that 100% understands it's character.

Wonder Woman are anorexic in comics?
with saggy tits and negative ass?

>>92918543
>he doesnt like MoS and BvS

sad....

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>mfw I get to explain WW to cute girl once she sees the movie

>>92918576
nope, not about the powers having consequences, its about alien invaders having consequences you absolute dumbass. And its the opposite of edgy, desu, it shows the PROBLEMS with violence, while edgyness revels in it.

>>92917808
mos and bvs had excellent superman being a hero momentd but thatd not where the problem lie

also i likrd BvS and Mos slightly maybe except.for stop invincible son

>>92918582
MoS is ok. BvS is a pile of garbage and you should feel bad for liking it.

>Daily reminder Lois somehow knew to get the Kryptonite spear to kill Doomsday despite not knowing what the fuck was going on.

>>92918419
Visually distinctive. You are being dense. You are driven by hate m8. This is the right choice, also the sword and shield are her battle mode, just like batman has a normal suit and one armored one, aquaman has the 90s and classic look and a royal armor (like mera), cyborg has a battle mode, and If the guesses of /co/ are correct flash will have different colored lightning when he goes ftl. From an artistic and storywise point of view it makes sense and its nice, toy makers love it, and hardcore fans still get mostly classic looks for everyone outside flash and cyborg. Stop bitching.

>>92918424
If it's not collateral then why are you calling it as such?>>92918417
>We see Clark breaking an small mountain with his head and not being damaged in first flight, not even his hair moves, I really don't understand what they expect from a fight between two kryptonians.

That they cancel each other out. Kryptonian versus Kryptonian has always come down to skill and they're able to hurt each other.

>>92918631
>Daily reminder Lois somehow knew to get the Kryptonite spear to kill Doomsday despite not knowing what the fuck was going on.

Anon are you dumb? Its really not hard to put together logically, especially for the world's greatest reporter.


>hurr durr shit is going down at the alien space ship site
>the same alien space ship that delivered alien invaders who previously escaped the same phantom zone they are currently in
>hmmmm this is probably alien related, i should get the one thing that i know hurts these aliens just in case


I get it if you are dumb anon and wouldnt be able to figure that out, but not every character/person is

>>92918403
His character wasn't bad in BvS except for some plot induced stupidity but MoS was pretty shit, not necessarily in the story it was trying to tell but more in how it told it. The actual story beats it was trying to hit were solid, but they either were set up in contrived ways, delivered sloppy, were too ham fisted and too obvious. The actual directing (shaky cam for two people sitting down talking about a serious issue), editing (lens flares and muted colours even when it was supposed to be up lifting, nothing to contrast the dour shit later with) and pacing (the second half of the movie needs to slow down and stop for a bit) were all legit concerns as well. The actual character they were trying to convey was fine and actually has been done and handled well in comics, it just wasn't written well or properly portrayed in the movie.

>death of the dad proving he can't save everyone
Perfect, except done in a shoddy way
>confused talk with no easy answers about when and how to use powers
Great, except the camera can't stop moving, there's lens flare for a serious scene that didn't need anything other than focus on a father to son talk
>Supes has the weight of the world on his shoulders to be this perfect being
Fantastic, Jesus imagery does work here, except it's constantly showed and people in the movie still keep telling him his responsibilities to the world. The Superman film earlier in the 00s despite it's problems actually nailed this a lot better with him out at space looking over the world and his "I hear everything" line.
>is forced to face reality that he can't save everyone and may have to dirty his hands to keep the world safe
This gets not much time to actually set in and not much impact after he initially does it shows on his mind. Also the family literally sitting in one spot and not moving at all was contrived as fuck.

It was more to do with the writing, editing, pacing and directing rather than what they aimed to do with the characterization.

>>92918611
stop invincible son wasnt that bad just poorly executed.

honestly i liked his death better than in the donner movie where pa kent dies for literally no reason and clark doesnt even TRY to save him (and we know he had super speed there)


in MoS we dont know the full extent of his powers at the time and Pa Kent dies to protect his son AND teaches him that all life is worth saving.

>>92916103
Wonder Woman is first DCEU movie where Snyder touched script, but nice try.

>>92918724
>>death of the dad proving he can't save everyone
For lack of trying. That's the real issue.
Clark can fail to save people but he doesn't even try because he's scared. A guy with that much power being controlled by fear isn't a good look.

>>92918712
>Anon are you dumb? Its really not hard to put together logically, especially for the world's greatest reporter.
This movie asks us to believe the world's greatest detective doesn't think Superman could possibly have a secret identity, despite the fact that he has one himself.

So yeah, the competence of characters is already questionable.

>>92918665
Kryptonnians are as durable as any other flying break with fighting each other, it's just that the bio aura doesn't work. But they don't cancel each other. 2 trucks clashing will still make a mess. When they flight towars space they are moving 300 times faster than sound, even without superstrenght or the bio aura and pretending their denser bodies weight the same as normal humans the mass they would reach at that speed is already huge. Kryptonnians fighting will rekt a city.

>>92918825
he wasnt scared at all, he was listening to his father out of respect. In contrast to the leading up scene where he is like YOU ARE NOT MY REAL DAD mad ISNT listening to him. Its about him trusting and respecting his dad.


Are you so dumb you cant remember what happened immediately before that scene?

>>92918712
That is a fucking jump in logic and you know it. She hasn't even seen Doomsday and knows literally nothing about him.

Fucking Snyderfucks I swear...

>>92918724
>Fantastic, Jesus imagery does work here, except it's constantly showed and people in the movie still keep telling him his responsibilities to the world.

Wow, that was not the point of the jesus imagery. First off there are maybe 2 whole jesus images in BvS, and the point is that people CANT stop comparing Superman to jesus despite him not wanting anything to do with it. Its about how people perceive him, the movie isnt TELLING you he is jesus and it sure as hell isnt shoving the imagery down your throat.
>is forced to face reality that he can't save everyone and may have to dirty his hands to keep the world safe
Again you got it wrong, him killing Zod is a mistake. Its one he made for the right reasons, but it directly leads into the creation of Doomsday and ends up killing Superman showing that even HE cant escape his mistakes. That was the point. That even Superman makes mistakes and isnt perfect.

>>92918857
No, the movie shows you that batman doesn't care about that anymore. He doesn't care about superman origin, he doesn't care about superman as a person, it's easier to kill a faceless monster. Also compare Lex and Bruce, even as a fallen hero Bruce thinks if facing superman, invastigates his weaknesses, meanwhile Lex thinks of using his love ones as tools to hurt him. Is not that batman doesn't think superman may have a family, it's just that it doesn't matter, it's not relevant.

>>92918857
>This movie asks us to believe the world's greatest detective doesn't think Superman could possibly have a secret identity, despite the fact that he has one himself.


There is 0 reason to believe he has one, especially when the other metahumans he observes later in the movie dont seem to have any secret identities either.
This is the same conceit that all comics have to why the MAJORITY of the people in them dont think to investigate secret identities. Most of Superman's villains dont think or care that he has a secret identity.
Read more comics man, this is a central conceit of the genre.
And again, Batman's feelings on Superman are meant to reflect how inhuman he sees Superman. He sees Superman as so detached that he thinks Superman would never WANT a secret identity to be among humans.

>>92918866
Whatever man. Clark's exact words are that he LET his father die. You can doll it up with trust but at the end of the day that's never going to be the same as failing to save him, and therefore should not be regarded as being the same.

>>92918985
>>92918988
>>92918857
additionally, its a projection of Batman's own detachment. Notice that throughout the movie he only refers to himself as Batman, while its everyone else that refers to him as Bruce.


And then notice how after Superman's death, in the JL trailer, he is referring to himself as Bruce again.

>>92918863
>But they don't cancel each other. 2 trucks clashing will still make a mess.
Yes, to the trucks. That's my point
The collateral damage, yeah, that's a thing that happens in cape fights. But the fact that Clark doesn't even get his hair messy is just poor visual language because it ends up looking like he wasn't struggling or getting hurt, just his surroundings.

Which furthers the idea that it's not a good thing. If the civilians are going to suffer the hero needs to as well.

>>92919002
what do you mean? if he failed to act out of fear than that wouldnt be LETTING his father die. "Let" implies he could have stopped it but chose not to, which only supports my point that he was following his father's wishes.

>>92918874
how is it a jump in logic? what other threat should she assume is coming from the KRYPTONIAN ship other than a KRYPTONIAN one?

>>92919069
>"Let" implies he could have stopped it but chose not to
Yes. That's exactly what happened.

He failed to act and LET his father die because he was scared of what might happen. He trusted that his father's fears were justified, and became afraid himself. This isn't hard. I shouldn't have to spoonfeed it to someone that's supposedly so much smarter than me because they liked a crappy movie.

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>>92915947
Gal Gadot might not be the best actress in the world but her thighs sold this movie for me.

>>92918874
>hurr durr it didnt make sense to me so it wont make sense to anyone!!

I was actually super relieved when Lois went after the spear. Im tired of characters in movies acting like idiots and lacking basic logic. If I saw some shit going down at the alien crash site, I would sure as hell go get my super alien weakness weapon ready

>>92919063
You are getting it wrong, it's not that Clark doesn't get hurt, it's that zod doesn't get hurt either, if the continued zod would eventually reach the point his skill is enough to beat Clark's superior strength, zod wasn't hurt by a fall from space, there was only one way for a rookie superman to stop him.

>>92919121
Again where are you getting this fear thing from? He did it because he trust and respected his father. This is literally set up RIGHT before where as your fear thing has no support in the movie in any other scene.


Clark wasn't afraid. Pa Kent was rightfully afraid, as shown in BvS, a whole movie that more or less confirms Pa Kent's fears.

>>92919121
why do you keep pushing this "clark was afraid" narrative so hard when you have 0 proof for it? are you projecting?

Should I read Perez or 2000s Rucka first?

>>92919171
And its logical, the Kent were rising the the most important person on earth and wanted their son to be ready for anything he would eventually decide, they didn't had all the right answers. The world reacted exactly as PA though, and as the real world would, superman isn't a celebrity, it's the biggest change of world views since the discovery of fire.

>>92919233
are you retarded? literally the only thing ANYONE knew was that shit was going down AT the kryptonian ship

>>92919202
Perez first

>>92919282
Not him but you have to be autistic to not see the jump in logic you're arguing here.

Then again fans of BvS are autistic so...

>>92919347
how is it a jump in logic? Explain

>hmmm shit is going down at the KRYPTONIAN crash site
>remember these same Kryptonians escaped the phantom zone before
>but no, it would be a jump in logic to try and get the one weapon I know would hurt a kryptonian


you are a dumb person anon, it made perfect sense to me

>>92919347
>autism, which is about not recognizing social cues, means you cant into logic apparently
>coming from a person who cant understand basic social cues in regards to threat analysis and survival


really makes you think

>>92916103
>watch movie
>end credits
> co written by Zack Snyder

>>92916103
but WW was the first movie in the DCEU snyder actually wrote....

>>92916103
> Snyder would have made her into another depressed one dimensional killer.


But Superman had exactly one montage and one scene of depression, and it was justified because Senate had been bombed anon and people were treating him like a god.


Are you autistic? Can you not understand feelings and social cues? Do you think if a person isnt smiling they must be depressed?

>>92916103
>>/co/ is going to eat you alive
>guy doesnt get eaten alive
>instead you get eaten alive because of your shitty opinion
AHAHAAHAHAHAAH

>>92919431
It's a shame they cut some things in the movie, Jenkins is a coward. I'm. Mad about the Irish story.

>>92919157
If Zod is strong enough to survive a fall from space I don't know if I buy a neck snap. Plus, the villain as the underdog does not a thrilling conflict make.

>>92919171>>92919189
>Pa Kent was rightfully afraid
Right. And trust in fear *is* fear.

>>92919279
>muh realism
>muh no flying cars

>>92919455
If that's true why did his creative decision to have Diana sitting on her boney ass for a century get retconned?

>>92919543
>And trust in fear *is* fear.

Not at all. That is some retarded ass logic. Prove that statement, go give me other examples that prove that, because that is a large philosophical claim you are making. By your logic, anytime a child trusts their parent, and that parent is afraid (even if the child doesnt know it) that child is afraid. Even if that child isnt actually feeling any fear, by your logic, that child is afraid.
Fear is a FEELING anon. You cant say X always equals Y feeling. That is some autism level world engagement.

>>92919431
Johns rewrotte everything.

And it's not like Snyder actualy wrotte anything to begin with.

>>92919567
but it didnt get retconned at all? she was still absent from the world stage since WW1.....

>>92919621
>Snyder has top story credit
>NAH HE DIDNT WRITE IT!!!

wow, absolutely pathetic. Please tell me more of the inner workings of WB, person who obviously works there and isnt pulling thins out of his ass....

>>92919543
>real world reactions means the entire thing is based on MUH REALISM


you got to read more comics kid, tons and tons of them take "real world" elements or try to tell stories were a certain aspect of them reflects the real world.

Hell, the entire POINT of fiction is to interpret and deal with the real world. No fictional story is 100% divorced from reality. And to think that one "real" aspect means the whole movie is "muh realism" is absolutely over reactionary and just flat out dumb.


If you didnt notice, BvS was a reconstruction of sorts and shows the world transition to one full of hope and optimism (mostly illustrated via Batman).

>>92916962
This, I can believe. And I haven't heard anyone that would say it. But it really made me doubt the judgement of other reviews. Like if you think Gal Gadot is a good actress, what else are you wrong about. But I can totally accept overall it's a good movie despite her performance. Or just the script got the character so right it carried her performance for most of it.

>>92919621
You are a retard if you believe Johns is good with wonder woman, also you clearly have no idea how writing credits work. Johns did include some shit, like his ice cream bullshit escene that made no sense in the movie . That is being a consultant.

Johnsfags are seriously detached from reality.

>>92918068
I'd love for All-Star Bizarro (And Zibarro for that matter) to make their way into a movie rather sooner than later.

>All those slo mo sequences

Am I the only one who thinks that slo mo probably made the movie longer by at least 15 minutes

>>92919757
same, i think itll happen. They already set up the seeds with Doomsday.


Expect a movie with both clone Superboy and Bizarro

>>92916547
Jenkins made a miracle on this one

>>92919762
oh for sure, and a lot of the slow mo cgi didnt look that good, but it didnt bother me too much. I still liked the movie.

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>>92915998
Raimi brothers.

Guillermo Del Toro

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Hey guys
ICE CREAM

>>92918759

It could have been handled better. Instead of a Tornado, have Pa die from a heart attack or cancer.

>>92919618
>Prove that statement, go give me other examples that prove that, because that is a large philosophical claim you are making
When I was a kid my parents were that kind of hardcore christian that goes "yugioh is the devil you'll go to hell" so I, trusting them, was scared of that shit. Because fear was instilled in me because I trusted them.

But any examples I give won't count because BASED SNYDER is a genius and anyone that dares question our new god is retarded and autistic and a shill.

>>92919847
I agree, but i dont think the scene is as bad as people make it out to be. And at least this way Pa Kent died showing Clark that every life is worth saving, even a dog.

>>92919858
you had retarded parents anon. When I was a child and in a car accident with my dad he told me everything would be okay and I trusted in him. In retrospect (and after talking to him about it years later) he was terrified in that moment, but my trust him made me feel calm and trust that it would all work out.

>>92919858
Oh so you had shitty parents, THATS why you are projecting shitty parenting onto Pa Kent. Got it.


See I had good parents, so I knew that Pa Kent was actually trying to protect his kid from real threats, not made up demons.

>>92919858
>equating fear of real government bodies with made up, church driven fear
>equating having the world's most important and powerful son with fucking yu-gi-oh cards


Jesus christ you dumb. Your parents were right to take away your cards, I would have too if I knew my kid would grow up to be like this.

>>92919858
>no one is calling Snyder based or even amazing
>literally just arguing over a single character and a scene, something that had way more to do with the writers than Snyder
>HURR DURR YOU ARE JUST A SNYDER DICK SUCKER

wut

>>92919832
Really think it's a missed opportunity not having her play Wondy's mom.

>>92916962
>She's charming and cute when she's acting naive which is most of the film but a little eh when it comes to serious scenes.

This.

>>92919914
Yeah, and a parent that tells you things will be okay is great. I wish Clark had one.

>>92919753
>like his ice cream bullshit escene that made no sense in the movie

The ice cream scene was great you faggot!

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>>92915947
BvS understood Thomas Wayne's character.

>>92920067
He did, Pa Kent knew things would be hard at first, be he also knew that in the end his son would change the world.


Or did you completely miss the entire point of the conversation Clark was reflecting on at the mountain top? He was literally remembering Pa Kent telling him to basically never stop trying to do good even if it ends up having unintended consequences.
Just because he wanted his son to WAIT to reveal himself to the world, when he was more ready, doesnt mean he wanted him to hide forever.
You seem to be projecting a lot of your own personal history onto Pa Kent, and I am sorry for that.

>>92920156
not really.... the movie portrays Batman killing as a BAD thing, which understands Batman's character fine.


If they portrayed killing as a good and necessary thing (literally the opposite of BvS) THEN you would have Thomas Wayne.

>>92920175
>not really.... the movie portrays Batman killing as a BAD thing

Well he gets away scott free with killing goons, so...

>>92920156
Wake me when he's carrying two 9mm busting caps in mother fuckers. He didn't do anything in BVS different than Keaton or even Bale in their movies. Only Batman that didn't kill was Clooney

>>92920129
It was copied from the animated movie and you know it

>>92920175
>Implying killing all those fuckers for Martha wasn't righteous
>>92920206
Didn't Knightmare Batman have duel guns?

>>92920198
>Well he gets away scott free with killing goons

not really, Alfred almost leaves him over it. one of his batmobiles gets wrecked, and he partially blames himself for Superman's death and has to repent by making the Justice League... Also every other movie batman movie got away scott free for their murders way more than this one....


and punishment isnt the only way to portray something as a negative

>>92920129
It was terrible. In the comic, in the animated Movie and here, Diana isn't a retard.

>>92919762
You sound like a dumb kid that doesn't know how time works.

Anyway the village fight was fantastic and more in Snyder style, the final act action was pretty shitty, Mcu tier fight. >>92919858
You being retarded doesn't mean pa Kent was. You were a dumb kid, their son was an alien with superstrenght and senses. Your example is stupid, PA lent knew that realistically, the world would react in a way that very few could handle.

>>92920260
>Didn't Knightmare Batman have duel guns?

He had a rifle. But that doesnt count because it was a dream/alternate future brought on by Darkseid influencing Superman.

>>92920283
>It was terrible. In the comic, in the animated Movie and here, Diana isn't a retard.

It was QT not retarded you fucking shit bird!

>>92920291
>He had a rifle.
Assault rifle. Bog fucking difference.

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>>92916547
>Gadot can't act

>>92920198
You actually believe those were goons?

Those wee the same mercenaries that burnt the village and killed the negros.

Jenkins already signed up to direct the sequel! Hoping we get Cheetah in some form

>>92920005
Nah, It was a smart move. The less direct comparisons to people that would have been a better Wonder Woman at any time, the better.

>>92920380
I'm not excited, I want the extended cut with the Irish backstory, to see the village destroyed.

>>92916547
Well it's her first movie as a lead. I think she portrayed a qt fish out of water with a child-like innocence well enough.

>>92919495

Jenkins cut far less out of the movie than most directors might.

>>92916547
She literally sounds like Tommy Wiseau at times but she does alright. I disliked her in bvS, here she does pretty good

>>92920156
very good

>>92919455
>>92919431

>Implying Based Jenkins and Johns didn't rewrite his story.

Anyone else think it was overly Dark? And I don't mean "Dark" as in "Edgy". I mean the fucking movie was so dark I couldn't see shit. After the Island 90% of the movie is either night or wartime and it was really hard to see what the fuck was going on.

Maybe was just my theater

>>92920380
Much as I like Cheetah, she's not big bad material. Give me my girl Circe for that.

>>92923808
Probably your theater. Did you see it in 3D?

>>92915947
It might have taken them, what four? five movies?
But DC may have finally figured out the key to Marvel Studios success.

Understanding the basic fucking appeal of the characters you are adapting

Just watched the movie. It was great. I love how unapologetic it was about being a comic book movie. Like, the Marvel films treat superheroes as being childish, so their movies are child friendly and not serious. Meanwhile the Snyder films try too hard to be gritty and dark, because he feels that superheroes wouldn't be taken seriously otherwise. But Wonder Woman was neither -- no endless stream of quips and no angst.

One issue I had with the problem though was, and this is a spoiler, how underutilized Dr. Poison was. Her design was so cool in my opinion. I would have liked it if she contributed to the final fight in some way -- like maybe she was able to create a gas so potent that it could even harm gods.

>>92923914
no saw it in d-box just like a few mins ago. We were off-center so might have been that but felt like the majority of scenes in the movie were dark and hard to tell what was going on.

>>92923940
>Understanding the basic fucking appeal of the characters you are adapting
Haven't seen the film yet, but I can't express how relived I am to hear that Diana actually acts like Diana. By all accounts, this is indeed a Wonder Woman movie, and not some generic warrior chick flick with the name attached.

Went with a group of normalfags and one /co/mrade, everyone liked how Diana was portrayed.

The weak point was the CGI in the third act but I for one cackled at how comically evil Ares was. That was straight up comic book villain.

I dont get the people who make an issue of having a female director. That movie about soldiers disarming bombs in Iraq directed by James Camerons exwife, and the sequel about killing Bin Laden, are among the few movies I truly liked in the last 10 years.

I will see WW in a week (havent seen it yet), hope its good, never seen as DCU movie and only watched the first 2 Avengers one from the MCU (didnt watch Civil War). I do watch all the Fox X Men movies due to my xfaggotry.

>>92924128
>That was straight up comic book villain.
Well, yeah. From what everyone says, dude sounds like they went in a Perez direction with him.

>>92924180
There are people who take issue with a Wonder Woman movie being directed by a woman? ... Dare I ask why?

>>92923980
> I love how unapologetic it was about being a comic book movie.

That's a great point right there. I love how campy the villains were and how Diana just straight up gets into her costume and fights. No bullshit about how her costume symbolizes hope or whatever.

>>92919847
I remember someone posting a strip with Luthor finding out Superman is Clark. Cant remember it well but it has Luthor seeing Superman's greatest fear/regret/tragedy and its this scene with Clark holding his dad. Anyone got the comic for this?

>>92923894
>Much as I like Cheetah, she's not big bad material

Why not?

>I hate she in injustice 2...

It should be noted this movie is a great example of how you do a fresh origin story. I thought I was getting sick of origin movies but I turns out I was getting sick of Iron Man clones. That was my biggest problem with Ant Man and Doctor Strange. MCU fanboys of course screeched about "muh hero's journey!" as if Iron Man invented the fucking trope.

This capeshit movie felt fresh and I actually couldn't predict every beat for once.

Having seen it, if feels like a marvel movie, so I guess thats why people like it. The movie totally falls apart when she finally gets to the war and the climax is trash.

>>92924539
>>92923894
Circe as big bad, Cheetah as major supporting who has a full character arc

>>92924539
She just isn't. You'll often see her described as more or less an evil Lara Croft, and for good reason. If she's going to come up with an elaborate plan, it'll involve trying to kill Diana, or getting her claws on a valuable artifact. A secondary antagonist, sure, but not main threat levels. Plus, there'd be Speed Force shenanigans, and you'd have to explain Urtzkartagah... Just nah.

>>92924539
>>92923894
>>92920380
Well Diana has a museum/artifact shop or something in France so we are probably gonna get Minerva.

What i want for the WW3 is Steve coming back and they do a God of War movie starting Underworld to the Olympus.

>>92915947
Too bad /co/ still doesn't understand her character. This place thinks she's just supposed to be a buff warrior bitch who snaps necks.

>>92924539
Cheetah is more like Two-Face. She'd work better as a side villain that Diana is trying to redeem.

>>92924707
This i could see.

>>92915947
I don't know if I should love it or hate it, but it was okay. I thought Suicide Squad was good, when everyone else hated it. But there are some good actions scenes, like when she's in that French town and she takes out the sniper. I'm more of a Marvel guy than a DC guy, with the exception of Batman: The Movie (1966) and Batman '89.

>>92926837
Don't know about the neck snapping but i kinda like it when artists draw her buff. I like Cho's Wondy best.

>>92916547
Other than one scene early on where she's upset over an Amazon's death she actually does a fairly ok job. She's pretty cute when she's seeing all of london for the first time and they nail her characterization.

It wasn't perfect, but it was easily the best DCEU movie objectively speaking (I love MoS personally, but I get why people hate it). Other than the final fight the action scenes are good, the beginning drags slightly but overall it's at least a 7.5/10.

>>92915998
>>>/t/umblr

>>92920283
> Your example is stupid,
Now be honest. Is there ANY example that would've not been met with "but clark is an alien god!"?

>>92923980
>Like, the Marvel films treat superheroes as being childish, so their movies are child friendly and not serious.

When will this meme end?

"Wonder Woman" is no different in tone from the average Marvel movie.

>>92920322
Diana liked something. Liking things is autistic and for babies

>>92927726
>When will this meme end?
When Marvel movies stop being popular and successful and thus acceptable for the contriarian hipsters here to like unironically.

>>92926886
WW deals with Urtzkartagah as the main villain with some Cheetah on the side. How about that?

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>>92918057
>those are there to make her look really different from superman

oh no how will I ever tell them apart

So uh, spoil me her and the Amazons' general origin in the movie here?

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>>92919128
what thighs

>>92929174
Zeus created the Amazons to keep men in check.

>>92930889
More specifically man as in humanity

>>92928209
And you don't need to know anything about cheetah. Cheetah's origin is included as well.

Why didn't Wondy kill Doomsday the same way she killed Ares?

Which Oscar will it win?

>>92933206
None of them, just like any of the Marvel movies, even the really good ones.

>>92933161
If you mean the bracelet clang, that was literally her first move and he tanked it

>>92933256
She took Ares lightning and redirected it back at him tenfold. Why didn't she do that with Doomsday's beams?

>>92933280
Magic lightning and sci-fi space beams are different.