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This is the best superhero game ever. Prove me wrong

Protip: You can't
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>>92842013
When it came to ensure the quality of our fair board, did the OP have a plan? No! He relied on a bait. A Bat-bait!
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>>92842013
Not OP, but posting because this is the best fucking superhero game ever. You should prove him wrong although,

Pro tip: you can't
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>>92842013
>>92842071
Asylum is better
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>>92842067
Devito Penguin was the best performance of the character
Prove me wrong /co/
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Not posting Marvel Vs Capcom 2
OP Please leave
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>>92842067
Why bait? What is your favorite superhero-related game?
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>>92842134
>talking about Marlel vs Crapcum 2

Please depart this thread
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>>92842013
but I can
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>>92842109
Asylum have less side quests. It gets boring more easily. The Scarecrow sequences are amazing though,
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>>92842276
>less side quests
so? It's still the better game.
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>>92842426
Fun, but wrong.
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>>92842013
I really liked the X-men Legends and MUA games. That said, the Arkham series still wins out.
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>>92842276
Brevity is the soul of wit
Arkham City is just
>hey, let's put in Mad Hatter!
>hey, let's put in Bane!
>hey, let's put in Azreal!
>hey, let's put in Deadshot!
>hey, let's put in Hush!
>hey, let's put in Black Mask!
It is literally Shoehorning: The Game
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>>92842013
The best super hero game ever made was Saints Row 4.
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Arkham City > Arkham Asylum > Arkham Knight

No one cares about origins.
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>>92842276
>The Scarecrow sequences are amazing though
Love and Hated this

Grew up with the classic Nintendo cartridge glitching, and was a victim of the 360's shitty craftsmanship, was on my 3rd console when I played Asylum, and when it got to the glitch reset hallucination scene I legitimately panicked thinking something was wrong, leapt up and shut off the console
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>>92842539
Asylum > Origins > City > Knight
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>>92842539
Origins is better than City.
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I prefer MvC 2 desu
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>>92842569
>>92842569

Is Arkham Knight that bad?
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>>92842510
No, Saints Row 4 is the best Crackdown game.
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>>92842013
>When you can't even talk about games on /v/
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>>92842615
Batmobile Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots really, really brought the game down
After the hype of City, Hush was a catastrophic letdown
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Asylum has a better story and atmosphere

City just has better gameplay

Outside of Joker turning himself into a big monster at the end because video games
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>>92842482
>shoehorning

What the fuck? What's the problem with more content and characters showing up? Some characters aren't fit to be main villains, but are just perfect for minor quests. Zasz is a great example of it.
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>>92842615
No. If not for the tank, it would've been the best. The tank just really brings shit down.
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>>92842647
>mfw it was nothing, just a QTE and a cutscene. His master plan was to steal some cash.
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>>92842189
Great customization, love the power skill trees, very little variety in quests. Felt like I was fighting the same baddie over and over again.
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>>92842792
enemy variety gets better as you get higher in level
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>>92842681
>City just has better gameplay
Unless the game is dependent on story like Telltale games, a mechanic-heavy game with better gameplay but a worse story will still be better than the reverse.

Paper Mario: TTYD's story is as dry as it comes, still better than Super Paper Mario.
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>>92842681
>Outside of Joker turning himself into a big monster at the end because video games

Unfortunately, both Asylum and City have shitty endings. The Clayface final boss was really lame. Sure, it was surprising to see the healty Joker was just a double, but using Clayface as the final boss really came out of nowhere
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>>92842830

If the gameplay difference is a slim one like between Mario 3 and Mario World then the argument always comes down to which game's aesthetics you like more
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>>92842681
>>92842830
City's gameplay isn't even that much better, just altered more to suit the world style
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>>92842929
I don't think it's unreasonable to claim that Mr. Freeze was the best boss in the series
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>>92843009

It's too bad they couldn't top that, to the tune of doing it in every game afterwards
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>>92842929
Many video games have shit final bosses and I think part of it comes from some realization companies made a long time ago that a high percentage of gamers drop games they play after a certain time span, so it leads to a ton of stuff having amazing beginnings, lackluster middles, and shit finales.
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>>92843062

It's a shame, the final boss is always gonna stick with the person who beats the game, so you'd think you want to make sure it's strong

I can still to this day hum the bars of the Double Dragon 2 boss music because that boss was fucking satisfying
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I can't forgive Arkham City for utterly wasting Hugo Strange in his one chance to actually be cool in a well-received and influential medium, and seriously mishandling Ra's as hard as they did with that irrelevant "Wonder City" bullshit. It might otherwise been a technically better game with stronger variety overall, but in terms of enjoying the ride from beginning to end where the plot is concerned, Asylum beat it's sequels by a mile.
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>>92843062
>a high percentage of gamers drop games they play after a certain time span
God I hope your just pulled this out of your ass, or are only taking about multiplayer games...
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What bothers me about City is how fucking omnipresent the Riddler He's all around the town. Even in the Wonder Tower there are Riddler trophies.
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>>92842426
oh no
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>>92843267

Not that anon, but the major consoles started showing trophy completion data a while back and it is damning
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>>92843319
His shit-talking was absolutely fucking quality in the Arkham games, I genuinely burst out laughing during some of his sequences
>You should know Dark Knight that I'm recording all of your failures for posterity. And for my social media presence of course.
>You are performing just below my expectations. Keep it up and I may let you help me find my socks!
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>>92843243
>utterly wasting
>the guy is literally the main villain, along the Joker

What, you wanted him to use the titan formula and brawl with Batman like the Joker did?
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>>92843410
Jesus, it's $90 for a base game at launch where I live, unless you're a kid whose parents just piss away money to keep you quiet I don't know how anyone could justify throwing away money on something and not finishing it.

As long as it has a decent campaign, I could play and replay it for hours on end. Even if I don't like it I'll still play it till 90% of the achievements are unlocked.
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>>92843538
>multiplayer achievements
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>>92843558
Yep, and I'm someone who can't stand that shit, more than an hour of it and I'm ready to slit my wrists...
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>>92843009
Mr. Freeze and Solomon Grundy are both awesome in this game.

Grundy's corpse could've been used again
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>>92842539
Origins is better than Knight
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Is Return to Arkham worth buying?
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Arkham Asylum and Arkham City have bad gameplay

They're both poorly written Joker wank (with Asylum having an excuse for it, but City features the worst Batman copout: The main bad guy wasn't the real bad guy all along lmao!!!1)

I like button mashing, sure, but if you think any of the Batman games are top 10 in anyway, either from a story or gameplay perspective, you are just ignorant about video games, period. (And maybe comics)
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>>92843968

Do you have a PC capable of running the games without it looking like a slideshow

If the answer is yes, then no, absolutely not
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>>92843448
>he spends the whole game getting hyped the fuck up as the main antagonist, pulling at all the strings from off-screen (and during those interviews)
>actually, he was just Ra's Al Ghul's lap dog who was completely dependent on his master for all the resources necessary for him to get as far as he did
That shit was almost as bad as the Iron Man 3 twist, only it let the Fu-Manchu archetype actually be the bad guy. I didn't really expect to throw down with Strange or anything (unless maybe they went down the "he's emulating Batman" route, which might have been either better or far worse than TITAN Joker)... But it would have at least been nice to know he had his own hidden agenda planned, like maybe he had a legit scheme to kill Batman, double cross Ra's, and become his successor to serve some higher end game. But no, instead he was just stabbed in the back for some bullshit anti-climatic plot "twist", and then The Joker stole the spotlight again, which by then was really just the pinch of salt in the wound that knocked Strange down from "disappointing" to "irrelevant" by the time the game's finally over.
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>>92844063
At least he had cool audio tapes
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>>92844063
Ra's had no reason to be involved with the finale beyond a soap opera esque shock twist because the developers/writers have no interesting philosophy to get across about Batman or Strange, they just need a quick way to wipe them out of the story so they can do the awful Joker portion (which should have been a new game+ alt ending)
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Arkham City for sure gave us the best Catwoman.
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>>92844106
Fuck forgot the link
https://youtu.be/oj3u9U5eIfo
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>>92844013
To make an addendum, if you put the Arkham games in a top 10 comic video games, then I understand completely.
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>>92844013
>Le button mashing meme

Stun baton enemies, shield enemies, knife enemies all require different tactics and become regular enemies as the game goes on.
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>>92842426
Literally any other answer that isn't this game is wrong.
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>>92842013
I think I enjoyed Lego Batman 2 more, but that's 'cause I could play it along with my nephew and it was like being a kid again.
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That cancelled Flash game would've been amazing
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>>92844188
Batswarm, weapon break. Yawn.

The only time these chumps even remotely present a threat is unupgraded Batman or the DLC characters who are kind of poorly thought out.
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>Arkham Origins
>"oh boy Black Mask is the villain finally someone who isn't Joker"
>nevermind it was Joker all along
>Arkham Knight
>"at least he's dead and he won't be in the game this time"
>nope nevermind he haunts you the entire game
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>>92844263
>Using the supermoves that instantly win fights and saying the game is easy.

You type like a Redditor too, you should probably go back.
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>>92844314
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>>92844314
Joker needed to be in knight. Scarecrow and Todd sucked as villains.
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>Running into people at 90 MPH with the batmobile
>That electric shock that is somehow supposed to convince me they aren't fucking dead.
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>OH NO BATMAN YOU HAVE FOILED ME AGAIN WITH THIS FLIMSY LOOKING FENCE - THERE'S NO WAY I CAN ESCAPE FROM THIS LIKE I DID THAT PRISON DESPITE LOOKING LIKE THE HULK!

Anyone that likes this game is an idiot.
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>>92844314

At that point it'd been so long since I'd heard Hamill and that was a genuine surprise I was okay with it

But Scarecrow was so fucking boring in comparison
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>>92844373
>Using the game mechanics???? What a cheater you are!!!1

Should I tie Batmans arm behind his back as well?

And that's your big come back Tumblrony? "YOU'RE FROM A DIFFERENT SITE!"?
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>>92842628
I've been avoiding /v/ since P5's NA release. Has it actually gotten worse?
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>>92842482
>brevity is the soul of wit

Sorry, stupid pet peeve here. That is a quote from Hamlet where Hamlet, the most long winded and the most witty character, was being sarcastic. It is not clever or deep, it's sarcasm.

Anyway, just bugs the hell out of me when people say that like it's supposed to be a serious quote from one of the greatest of all time wordsmiths.
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>>92844567
Polonius is the most long winded and the least witty character, and it's his line
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>>92844540
>These filenames
>That comeback
>Actually playing a game he hates this much.

Autism.

>>92844567
It's still a true statement.
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>>92844479
That's a really nitpicky thing to denounce an entire game over
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>>92844013
I'm more annoyed with how fucking boring the fights get and adding more trophies for those tedious as fuck medals.
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>>92844567
The joke is that he's right, but he also never shuts up, showing that he's not nearly as witty as he believes himself to be
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>>92844013
I had fun playing them, so I'd say they had good gameplay.
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>>92844582
>>Actually playing a game he hates this much.

I don't hate the Arkham games, I just realise they're not very good.

They're junk food like McDonalds, but /co/ and sometimes /v/ like to elevate them beyond that.

Like pic related - this shit character is introduced and I'm supposed to be sad Batmans girlfriend is dead or something

And yes I know who she is from the comic and cartoon, but why should I give a shit about THIS interpretation of her?
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>>92844638
Because they're relying on you KNOWING about those interpretations because Dini isn't very intuitive in his writing.
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>>92842013
I'm not entirely sure why but the Arkham series games have zero fucking appeal to me.
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I think at the end of the day, the reason people love Asylum and to a greater extent City so much isn't their writing or even their gameplay, but the fact that the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. Everything together- combat, characters, stories, and most of all atmosphere REALLY sell you on the whole "Batman simulator" thing. When you're zipping around Arkham, it becomes really easy to just feel like Batman.

I think that's why there was such a backlash against Knight - driving a battle tank doesn't "feel" like Batman.
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>>92844638

That's part of the reason why I think Asylum is better

Asylum was plotted as a Batman game that could easily fit in with any knowledge of the character, that's why it had a bunch of references because you just assumed that at some point (for instance) Batman sword fought an immortal man bare-chested on desert sands like he did in the comics or the cartoon

Then they had to make it it's own universe and bring in their own edgier interpretations
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>>92844691
Agreed. Dini hasn't worked out his quirks, as he has a clear problem going back to BTAS with writing Bane for example.

I don't believe for a second that the Asylum/City version of Bane EVER broke Batmans back.

>>92844693
>I'm not entirely sure why but the Arkham series games have zero fucking appeal to me.

It's Batgod at its worst (unless you like Batgod, then you probably should play them)
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>>92844579
Point to you. It is still, however supposed to be sarcastic.
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>>92842156
Shattered Dimensions
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>>92842426
Shadows was better.
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>>92842189
suck a great game
end game was lacking so hard, thats why it failed
thats why i'm sad
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>>92844914
it lasted for 8 years and finally got endgame rolling in a real way in the last few
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>>92843267
>>92843538
I'm not going to force myself to play something I'm not enjoying, but then I almost never pay full price.
>parents
Nigga 90$ is about 4 hours of work in my country, even if I make the mistake of buying a bad game full price it's not that much of an investment. We aren't talking about buying a car here.

I do have a couple of games where I've logged 600+ hours in anyway so it all balances out.

>achievements
Jesus Christ, I'll never understand how they managed to make people care so much about something more worthless than a fucking sticker that says "good job".
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I don't do this kind of autistic multi replies often, but i love Batman: Arkham.

>>92842013

It is, but /v/ crossboarders will deny that very fact.

>>92842111

He doesn't act like the Penguin, it's more like Killer Croc with some Burton OC creature taken from his emo/goth movies. Arkhamverse Penguin is my favorite version (bottle monocle aside).

>>92842134 >>92842606

Good fighting game, but gets boring soon.

>>92842426

A close contender, but being a movie tie-in product rest points in my book.

>>92842539

All of them, including Origins, do some things better and some worse. The perfect Batman game is hidden between all of them and the Splinter Cell series for the stealth.

>>92844013

Gameplay is not solely about the combat, and even then, the combat in Batman: Arkham is elegantly designed, i love it. It could be hard if the devs wanted it.

>>92844479

Good point, but not good enough to ruin the whole game.
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>>92844623
I get that, but there is a deeper irony to the words, particularly in hamlet. Where the title character is so smart he's able to literally dazzle people with his words, insulting them right to their faces without them understanding the joke. It is quite literally demonstrated by a clever character that the statement is false. While the statement is uttered by a foolish character in an ironic fashion. The point is that wit is not derived from amount of words, but from the quality.

Do you really think that Shakespeare of all people was saying that a large amount of words means you are less witty? If so, he paints himself as the character who uttered the line.
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>>92844772
Agreed - the setting had restraint and knew which characters worked and didn't work for it

Even from a gameplay perspective it makes me feel more human as Batman compared to Nightcrawlerman in City.
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>>92844373
Gamers naturally veer towards the strategy that yields the most reward. If you put an instawin technique people WILL use it and overuse it and get bored with the game. And it won't be their fault, it will be yours as a game designer.
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>>92844953
>Gameplay is not solely about the combat

You mean the brain dead """"stealth"""" with the x-ray vision that has no cooldown? Or the hotspot detective bullshit?
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>>92843319
His autism can't be contained
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>>92844063
I agree Ra's Al Ghul and Talia were two huge mistakes. They didn't add shit to the game. Strange wasn't so bad tho, he technically killed Ra's.
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>>92844930
>Jesus Christ, I'll never understand how they managed to make people care so much about something more worthless than a fucking sticker that says "good job".

You don't even know the half of it. Achievements require a budget and testing - its why cheat codes disappeared.

It's actually kind of messed up where Microsoft forced developers to include achievements, but didn't spring for the development cost OF THEM.
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>>92842013
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>>92844826
I mean, I can be okay with Batgod but I think it's more that I don't see Batman as being interesting when he's someone who beats his ennemy by just punching them repeatedly, and that seems to be most of the gameplay except some "press X to doubt".
That and the artstyle/designs which I find horrendous.
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>>92845094
>mfw this really exists

Is it good or are you just memeing? I'm down for anything related to Jack Kirby.
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>>92844638
That's why so many villains suck in these games. That and Rocksteady's inability to make good boss fights.
For instance, I love Two-Face. He's one of my favourite Batman villains, but why the fuck should I care about the game version of him?
That particular version is a one-dimensional jobber with only basic traits of the character.
The game spends so much time on Joker, it forgets to put any effort into other characters.
I'm not asking for BTAS or TDK levels of character work in a videogame, but more characterization for the sake of making the universe feel more fleshed out would've been nice.
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>>92845163
Game is awesome and you can even make your own original character do not steal

Mine was "The Human Spider" with a red face mask with the Spider-Man eyes and a white outfit. He could climb walls and was a good fighter in general, but was easily scared by overwhelming odds
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>>92845038
That's ironic considering some of my best cheat code memories are from Microsoft games.
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>>92845163
He's not memeing. It's not a perfect game but it's still great.
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>>92845262
>Have big daddy
>Enemy priest overtakes them
>They disappear from my radar

Legit scariest shit
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>>92844826
If I were to guess, it's the lack of tension and shitty boss fights. Batman is way too OP and enemies are too predictable, even on harder difficulties. I prefer games where I get my shit pushed in and have to overcome in order to win (like DMC 3) not cakewalk everything.
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>>92845203
I unironically believe that Aaron Eckhart stole TDK and was one of Harvey's best iterations
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>>92844906
Web of Shadows is one of the worst and most boring Spider-Man games along with Spider-Man 3.
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How can you say that when
>pic related
exists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LDfQE0VjM
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Is there any amount of... you know stealth in these games? Is it an important mechanic?

Cause when I think Batman I think guy who has to hide in the shadows, use gadgets, and use surprise and/or deception otherwise he's liable to get killed even by some mook, but this game seems to have him more in a pure brawler role and I don't think that interests me.
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>>92845223
Can I edit the characters in photoshop or is there at least RGB or Hex code in the character creator?
I'm autistic enough to want an exact particular shade for my character.
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>>92842013
Origins is the best in the series
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>>92845006

The stealth has some neat things that make it appealing: the thugs get more scared while you progress and they don't forget you exist as in MGS and Splinter Cell. By fixing some shitty levels where you enter through the main door, and removing the gargoyles, it would be perfect.

I love detective mode (it fits for the technology aspect of Batman), but i agree they should let to the player to put more input in the investigations.
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>>92845422
>Transformers

NOT

A REAL

COMIC SERIES
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>>92845422
>wants to convince people a game is good
>posts a cutscene montage set to some shitty Linkin Park/Evanescence hybrid music
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>>92845508

There are designated fight sections and dedicated stealth sections and the open area where you can do either in all of the games
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>>92845519
Never modded my own character, but there were HUGE sites dedicated to it back in the day and I assume its easy.

>>92845543
Joker DLC in Arkham Asylum is how I kind of wished Batman played.

His X-ray specs require him to stand still and he can't zipline out of getting caught.
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>>92845422

Ugh, I don't know what version of The Touch that is but it should burn in the fires of time
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>>92845589
>Joker DLC on PC never
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>>92845567
Thanks.
But is it a mechanic you *want* to use? As in does it make your life harder or easier to pick stealth over brute force when you have the choice? Does the game reward a stealthy approach?
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>>92842276
>Asylum have less side quests
This is good.
>It gets boring more easily.
No it doesn't.

Fuck, it doesn't matter. the NES had a better Batman game then both of them.
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>>92845560
>posts a cutscene montage set to some shitty Linkin Park/Evanescence hybrid music
>Linkin Park/Evanescence
Newfags should lurk more before posting.
Idiot.
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>>92845589

Batman without a grappling gun?. I disagree, it's iconic to Batman and cool from a gameplay perspective, but there shouldn't be such stupidly obvious and stupid looking hiding spots in the levels. You should be forced to find your own and be creative.
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>>92845203
because two-face wasn't the main antagonist of the game. he was more of just a side character and a device for a side mission. you were not suppose to care about him, you were suppose to care about the joker. each game is a story arch focusing on different subject not the entire universe.
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>>92845680
NES Batman's gameplay is pretty clunky. Returns on SNES though? Now we're talking.
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>>92845643

You can access to it with a mod, taken from the Macintosh version.
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>>92845422
Someone is ruining that song. God damn.
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>>92845643

My nig that shit's been cracked for years, it was in the Mac version so upstanding citizens got it running in the Windows one

I mean, if you want to buy it legit on Steam or whatever I guess you're out of luck
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>>92845643
>You can actually mod in Joker to Arkham Asylum on the PC using a MAC version of the game
>But the instructions are so complicated I just bought the PS3 version in a bargain bin
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>>92845680
>>92845713

>any 2d sidescroller better than muh Bamham

The /v/tard opinion that makes my blood boil. It's a good thing that studios don't listen to your kind.
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>>92845713
I don't remember an SNES Batman game. Also, clunky? Are you kidding? It's probably the best platformer for the system.
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>>92845715
>>92845731
>>92845742
well I guess it's time to replay Asylum
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>>92845684
>how dare you not appreacieate this soft metal cover of a shitty 80s power rock soundtrack from a franchise you obviously aren't familiar with
I don't know anon, beats me. No amount of lurking would have changed that, I don't do /m/ faggotry.
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>>92845696
It's iconic, yes, but they don't do it in the way I wanted in how he would swing almost like Spider-Man ala BTAS

>>92845707
But that literally is just degrading the character by treating them as such a non-entity
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>>92845725
>>92845612
>>92845560
>within the span of ten minutes
>samefagging has never been this easy
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>>92845684
Are you implying I should know that band? They're god awful and should be sent to the corner to think about how badly they butchered a part of my childhood.
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>>92845747
>It's probably the best platformer for the system.
Certainly didn't feel that way when I played it.
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>>92845744
Can't deny they have great music though.
https://youtu.be/-bNCGR1D9WE
https://youtu.be/MlGDKfgz4fA (The DS version of Brave & The Bold remixes this btw)
https://youtu.be/DZSWvGn8P68
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>>92845747

It's literally a reskined Ninja Gaiden. And objectibly inferior to Bamham, i mean, come on.
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>>92845770
I'm sorry you were forced to watch the entire video.
If I'd known you were incapable of making your own choices, I'd have asked your mom first after I climbed off her
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>>92845787
There's at least two people there. One of them is me.

I honestly can't believe someone could like that shit.
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>>92845744
Why the fuck would a studio ever listen to a group of people they know won't buy their games?
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>>92845787
>getting a persecution complex over people not liking your AMV
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>>92845845

Oh yeah, i sometimes just emulate them for the music. Streets of desolation is GOAT.
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>>92845203
Even though Telltale Batman was pretty mediocre, I was at least glad they actually treated Two-Face with respect. He was the best villain and his voice acting was spot on.
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>>92845875
>>92845828
>look, I'm shitposting on my own
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>>92845865
>I'm sorry you were forced to watch the entire video.
Nobody implied that dude, I just scurred it for some gameplay and found none. I'm allowed to call your shitty video shitty without you getting all uppity.

>ur mum
How cute.
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>>92845787

I'm the second one, who knew what song it was and doesn't use periods

Sorry we didn't like the sweet music choice in your vid, dude
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>>92845876

I don't know, but apparently they do, with the SJW thing.
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>>92845890
>getting all defensive when called out faggotry
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>>92842482
Nah they work and highlight the absurdity of a nightly patrol for Batman if one looks at every comic he shows up in a a single man's life.
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>>92845906
Those ARE both me.
I honestly don't see how disliking bad music is shitposting, especially a shitty version of a song I grew up listening to.

>>92845864
I thought the first one was way better. The open world was really dull and traveling was a waste of time.

>>92845830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA0WDnTxbGU
I dunno. Maybe I'm biased because of how much I played it as a kid.
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>>92845994
>being this mad over people not liking "my first AMV pls like subsrcibe and comment"
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>>92845994
>editing in yous
Jesus buddy. Do you have to try that hard?
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>>92846023
>Maybe I'm biased because of how much I played it as a kid.
And maybe I'm biased because I played Returns as a kid and Batman only as an adult.
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>>92842013
>This is the best superhero game ever. Prove me wrong
>Protip: You can't


City of Heroes was the best superhero game ever, by a wide margin.
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>>92844923
>>>92844914
>it lasted for 8 years and finally got endgame rolling in a real way in the last few


Holy shit, did it ever.

The Incarnate system of the endgame was fucking incredible, and the endgame quests!

To this day, the Hamidon Trial is the most fun I've ever had in a videogame of any description. Holy shit.
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>>92846162
The MMO? That barely qualifies as a game. Fuck I only ever just used the character creator as wank fodder. Don't judge me, I have a character creator fetish.
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>>92846132

Batman on NES was the first game that I didn't sleep while playing and I was like 5 or 6

But it's a mean ass motherfucker of a game, at least Returns is somewhat beatable

Adventures of Batman and Robin on Genesis is the superior version of both though
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>>92846162

>MMORPG

Disqualified. Better luck next time.
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>>92846254
I never had a Genesis. My mother bought into the Nintendo vs Sega hype and thought she had to take a side.
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>>92845654

But is it a mechanic you *want* to use? As in does it make your life harder or easier to pick stealth over brute force when you have the choice? Does the game reward a stealthy approach?

Yes to all.
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>>92846232
>>92846283
plebs
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Fuck this shitty OP.
What's the worst superhero game?
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>>92846305

Aw dude, you missed out

That is one of the few games that Genesis had a better version of than SNES

Soundtrack, gameplay, graphics are all top tier
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>>92846394
I've heard it's between Aquaman Battle For Atlantis, Superman 64 and Batman: Dark Tomorrow
Honorable mention goes to Superman Returns: Fortress of Solitude, which isn't bad, but it's literally Sudoku.
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>>92846394

Superman for the NES. I think it's worse than Superman 64, at least the latter one is fun for being bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyWqiHQs7c
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>>92845203
This is true. Penguin and Two-Face were very similar, personality-wise. Talia and Catwoman were also the same character. Clayface and Bane didn't have personality at all. Only Mr. Freeze had some characterization.
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>>92846462
I love Superman NES

I literally had no idea what I was doing, but it was awesome all the same. Kind of a first open world game, but you play superman.
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>>92846400

Genesis had better action, but the SNES one had the series music, fun plataforming and got the vibe of the series better. Both are good.
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>>92846325
Cool. Maybe I'll give this series a try then. Which one should I play first.
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>>92845203

>Rocksteady's inability to make good boss fights.

Grundy, Freeze and Clayface were fun. And they got Deadshot right, killing you with one shot.
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>>92846305
>My mother bought into the Nintendo vs Sega hype and thought she had to take a side.
That's kind of heartwarming in a weird way.
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>>92846571

Asylum, absolutely
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>>92846571

Relase order, so, play Asylum. You will appreciate the improvements more. I played them that way blindly (no recommendation from anyone) and i fell in love of this series.
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>>92846529
Meanwhile, the Sega CD version was Returns CD's driving levels.
Music and graphics are pretty good though.
https://youtu.be/rUdUZOyexgg (Longplay for those curious.)
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>>92846615
>>92846623
Thanks. Will probably buy it during the big summer steam sale.
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Adventures of Batman and Robin on SNES is at least one of the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5AC80K5JtI
>>92846394
I have no idea if it's THE worst, but Kick-Ass 2 is the first game I have ever deleted immediately after playing a little bit and I have some tolerance to shitty games. Just remembering it makes me angry.
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Sure
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>>92846525

No, you play as a leprechaun named Clark Kent. Fuck that game. But i get you, as a kid i loved the Howard the Duck movie.
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>>92846529

I don't know, you call your game the Adventures of Batman and Robin and it's not a two player game I feel like ya dun goofed from the get-go
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>>92846654

Oh yeah, and it's basically a "lost episode" of the series, for the cutscenes.

I'm trying to beat the game to see the whole thing, but those driving levels are a bitch, thanks to all those civilians.
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>Based OST
>Dat Duo Team Attack
>Dem Assist Characters
>Dat Onslaught fight
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>>92846394
I don't know about worst, but the most aggravating superhero game I ever played was the SNES The Tick. I never even got through the ninjas. I don't even know if you can; they were endless.
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>>92846797
I was super sad the new one is 3D. That's such a fucking waste.
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>>92846797
>>92846818

Do you really like 90s-style fight games or are you just being hipsters?
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>>92845654
Yeah you'll want to use stealth. I forgot how it was in the previous games but I'm playing Knight right now and enemies will light you up with bullets if you go in brawling. You need to whittle their defenses down with stealth before even attempting to brawl.

I know boss fights like Mr. Freeze in City rely purely on stealth.
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>>92846844

Not them, but the answer is: both.
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>>92842013
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>>92846844
Not them either but option 1.
Doesn't mean I don't like 3D fighting games but the gameplay just isn't as tight.
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>>92846887
Neato.
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>>92843417

>die dad!, i-i mean, die Batman!.
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>>92846844
I just like sprite animation. I never really cared for fighting games, I just liked the look and feel of Marvel vs Capcom.
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>>92847051
>literally just played that part
stupid hivemind
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>>92846462
Why is it so difficult to make a good Superman game? Fuck, they could even shoehorn Batman if they felt like it, but shouldn't be that hard to make a good Superman solo game.
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>>92843417

As he unknowingly awaits for the Batman's arrival at his hideout:

"Cogs? No, he'll work that out. I could steal that shark from Penguin. There's no way he could get past a shark, could he? No, it's got to be better that that. Too many variables. What if he has some kind of shark repellent? He'll get past it. Lasers? Yes. Lasers. Or dogs? Dogs with lasers? No. That's not good enough. Think harder, Edward. You can do this".
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>>92847323

There's that one that was iOS for like a hot second

That game was pretty much exactly what a Superman game should be
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>>92847323

I think not even current technology could do justice to some of his powers, like his speed. Also, if he's invulnerable, the game is boring, if he's not, you don't feel like playing as Superman.

Some good idea, i think, was that from Superman Returns of giving the health bar to Metropolis. We could start from there.
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>>92847323
It's not hard, most game developers are just kind of shit.
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>>92846797
lmao how big is juggernaut's fucking head?
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>>92847357
Fuck, I read it in his voice
The best part is, he probably would think this
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>>92845203
Only Japanese designers and Retro Studios seem to know how to design bosses.

Rocksteady use the Big Guy helped by re-spawning mooks trope too often.

Western designers just make the boss a "super-mook" with little unique about them.
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>>92847456
About Hulk's head size without the helmet, which is like a fuckhuge punch bowl.
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>>92845550
Transformers comics (especially classic Marvel UK and IDW) are loved by true comic fans.

The War and Fall of Cybertron games were heavily inspired by the comics, strongly emulating the sombre tone and gritty aesthetic of the comics.
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>>92846254
Batman Returns on Mega CD

> Go to menu
> Select driving stages only
> Enjoy one of the most hardcore driving action games ever
> The sewer level with the Bat ski boat is fucking god tier level design.
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>>92847603
>true comic fans.
You should never use that phrase. You're a faggot.
>inb4 u mad casual
I've read shit you've never heard of, and I wouldn't consider you not a true comic fan if it happens you didn't like those.
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>Scarecrow finally gets the spotlight in Knight
>LOLJK it's Joker again and a half assed Jason Todd Red Hood adaptation
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>>92842426
Batman was better for fan service, but gameplay wise this is much better.
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>>92842615
The Batmobile shit killed it.
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>>92842539
Origins actually became my favorite. Granted I played it 3 years after it came out when I bought it on Steam for $5. So most of the glitches and shit I think were patched out. Batman's early years are always more entertaining to me story wise. I liked the detective stuff a little more and it had the best batsuit out of the games.
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>>92847908

>gameplay wise

The main story and the web slinging make it good, but the combat is no better than Arkham and the shitty repetitive random crimes kinda ruin the experience. Also, i don't recall a good bossfight.

I say it's a draw in the gameplay departament. Both represent the character well.
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>>92842013
>the same fights against multiple goons over and over again
>400 fucking riddler trophies
>"muh joker"

>best superhero game ever
>a bunch of villains put in the game just for the sake of it

For Christ sake, OP, at least try to hide your shit taste.
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>>92848154

>the same fights against multiple goons over and over again

That's a given in street level super hero games.

>400 fucking riddler trophies

They are fun to get. I don't know why people has a hateboner against Riddler, i loved his sidequest in City and Knight.

>muh Joker
Yeah, muh Joker. THE Batman villan.

>best superhero game ever
>Implying it isn't

>a bunch of villains put in the game just for the sake of it
They were well implemented.

For Christ sake, /v/irgin, at least try to hide your contrarianism.
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>>92846578
>Freeze
Yes
>Grundy and Clayface
No.
>Deadshot
Not even a real boss. Just a shitty puzzle.
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>>92848663

How would you do a bossfight against Deadshot, then?. I don't like Origins style, where he's just another thug with a health bar.
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>>92848853
Not make it garbage like every other boss in those shit games and take hints from something like DMC instead?
Get rid of the "press X to win" shitty combat system for casuals and replace it with someting good?
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>>92848983

I don't imagine Batman hitting Deadshot in midair and teleporting around, you uncreative weeb fucker.

The current combat is just fine in design. I don't want retarded cuhraze animeshit on my Batman games. I want to see martial arts.
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>>92848312
>That's a given in street level super hero games.
The problem is that good superhero games are at least challenging or nowhere near as repetitive.
>it's okay to force a shitty villain instead of giving other characters a chance because MUH ICONIC
Kill yourself.
>They were well implemented.
Stop having shit taste if you really believe that.
>>92849085
>uncreative
Oh, god. That's rich coming from an idiot who thinks a shitty puzzle is a boss fight and can't be improved in any way
>I don't want retarded cuhraze animeshit on my Batman games
That was never implied, you shitstain.
>I want to see martial arts.
Correction: you want to see shitty unchallenging garbage like shitty cutscene bosses.
>The current combat is just fine in design.
Jesus Christ, Arkhamshitters are such delusional retards.
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>>92849172
Did someone hurt you?
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>>92842615
>here's a totally new character, you'll never g-
>literally the first person you'd guess it'd be

So much lost potential in that game. Looks and feels good a lot of the time but by the end it felt like a chore. Also felt like they just couldn't figure out how to actually design a game where you're Batman in Gotham as a living city so just copped out and made it only criminals again.
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>>92849172
Let's play "spot the /v/ crossboarder"
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>>92842562
>when it got to the glitch reset hallucination scene I legitimately panicked thinking something was wrong, leapt up and shut off the console

But that's the point Scarecrow can do generic scary stuff to scare Batman and characters within the game but he actually managed to scare you with a fear at that moment that was very real to you.

Those little things like that are what Dini and Rocksteady did that gave both City and Asylum these fucking really nice little touches that made them both so great.
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>>92849931
>So much potential

I think the loose threads in City paint the idea that Dini had a radically different plot set out than what Rocksteady ended up going with.

>Hush - Relegated to a single mission that was just a cutscene
>Azreal - Sidequest
>Pregnant Harley - Scrapped altogether
>Ra's vanishing not mentioned until DLC
>Calander Man relegated to an easter egg in a cutscene (likely wouldn't have had a large impact, but could have easily had something what with the game being set on Halloween)

The Hush and Azreal elements really piss me off, as I feel they could have easily have been woven into the main story.
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>>92848312
>They are fun to get
They're not though. The ones that actually make you solve a puzzle are fun to get, but most of them are just monotonous "blow up wall, get trophy" trophies. And each game adds a shitton of the monotonous ones.
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>>92849947
>if you disagree with my shit taste, you must be /v/
Embarrassing. Good to know that you have no argument other than "m-muh /v/" and "it's popular so it's the best thing ever"
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>>92848312
>collecting 400 trophies to see a shitty side mission is fun

What kind of autism one must have to find this shit fun?
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>>92850584
I don't have autism but the riddler is my favorite bat villain so I felt obligated to complete his quests. The batmobile races were bullshit
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>>92842615
It's the best combat and stealth but the game suffers from over using the batmobile if you remove most the tank battles and leave the initial tanks on bleake island, the cobra tank fight on miagami and then cloudburst on founders before the big attack on good at the end and replace all the other missions in the game with stealth and combat senarios it would be the best game in the series.
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>>92842698
Just like every use of Elliot after batman:hush and heart of hush.
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>>92846465
In the Italian version Talia and Catwoman even had the same VA, almost a joke about how generic they were

And about Selina, i managed to play her DLC only recently. I really expected more, she was fun to control but her sessions were like 5 minutes each and only focused on a non-story about collecting pointless shit. When i couldn't play as her i thought "wow, Ivy has an entire palace you can explore only as Catwoman, i wonder what's inside"... a two minutes fight against the usual inmates. I can't imagine how mad i would've been if i actually paid to play as her
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Anyone else used to like the Ghost Rider game? I played it when I was younger. I don't remember much, but I remember I used to love the race stages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5SeBs09nkc
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>>92849947
>people can only post on one board
lmao
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>>92842698
>Spend years killing people and mutilating your own face
>Go through intense mental torture in order to lose yourself and become the man you hate more than anything
>Just to walk past his receptionist

BRAVO
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>>92850818
I've never played the non-DLC version.There is no Catwoman in it? Who saves Batman in Steel Mill?
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>>92849931
>so just copped out and made it only criminals again.

I mean they pretty much have to do that because of the inclusion of the Batmobile. I dont want to have to worry about crashing into civilians while I'm zipping around the city.
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>>92842615
It's an objectively well-made game. The Batmobile is fun to use and I can see why Rocksteady got so attached to it since they clearly spent a lot of time designing it. Problem is the Batmobile is shoehorned too much into the game. Batman can't do a fucking main mission without "MUH BATMOBILE!"

While I was playing the game I kept thinking to myself, "If a normie saw me playing this I could literally tell them the game is called Batman racing and they wouldn't bat an eye"
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>>92851434
She appears when interacting with Batman but you never impersonate her, so Ivy is never mentioned and Two-face never reappers after you save Selina from him
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>>92851701
That feels a bit lazy game-design-wise. It'd only be annoying with the way they had done Batmobile driving
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>>92842562
that part was 200% scary*

*only on xbox 360
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Scarecrow was pretty good in Knight and had several awesome lines. John Noble needs to voice Scarecrow more. And he had the calm but sinister tone that really suited Scarecrow.
It's just a shame they didn't involve him nearly enough in the actual game and was overshadowed by Joker and Jason.
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>>92843324
M r. C o n n o r ' s c l a s s
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>>92842426
PIZZA TIME
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>>92842109
City feels like a natural expansion from Asylum. Asylum is a great exploration of a singular, iconic location from the Batman mythos, City feels like you're getting a lot more because it lets you run around in Gotham itself.

And because of the villain takeover, Gotham maintains the atmosphere that the Asylum had, so it works all over the board.

In any case, I think the two go together perfectly.
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>>92843243
Nobody cares
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>>92844962
>Tweedledee, Tweedledum, and Humpty Dumpty will never be boss fights in a legit batman game.
Kill me now.
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>>92846394
The Minority Report game lets you have a superhero costume, does that qualify it?
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Best superhero game ever. And much more difficult than Arkham games.
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>>92842013
It's the worst of the trilogy. In scaling up from Asylum it loses much of what made Asylum so good, and has trouble handling many of it's new elements. Asylum is a tightly wrapped experience, it's tense, it's atmospheric, it's well paced. Every element works together.

Asylum's story isn't thematically interesting or anything, but it doesn't try to be, or need to be. It's an excuse to put as in Batman's shoes and have a series of Batman-y events happen in a thrilling manner. City tries to tell a genuinely interesting story, and it absolutely falls flat on it's face.

Asylum's pacing was very highly controlled, fitting the plot's tense nature. As you progress and events scale up, you gain access to more of the map, which is made up of mostly semi-linear maps with a very specific way you progress through them. The game knows exactly what you'll be doing and when you'll be doing it at pretty much every time. When the stakes are high, you move quickly. When things are less urgent, you have more time to explore. The atmosphere of whatever environment you're in matches the current tone of the story. But City is a sandbox game with sidequests. The map isn't as atmospheric, and the story isn't as focused. There's a plot thread about Batman dying from a poison and having hours to live, but the game encourages you to do a ton of new side quests between every story mission, so you have Batman constantly focusing on really low-priority things equally, completely breaking any sense of tension or urgency, creating a disconnect between the player's experience and Batman's as presented in the cutscenes, and ultimately taking you out of Batman's shoes.

The map isn't as atmospheric and well designed as the one in Asylum, the submaps are still there, but most of those aren't as memorable outside the underground city stuff and maybe the museum.

Though it's gliding mechanics are incredibly intuitive and fun, and it made some nice additions to stealth.
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>>92850538

Shit this, shit that, learn new words, weeb.

>That was never implied, you shitstain.
>Muh DMC

No, i want to see martial arts, Arkham delivers, Donte doesn't.

The combat it is perfectly designed: attacking and defense, that's all you need, elegant. It literally only needs to change the aggressivity of the enemies to be perfect, but not change it completely.

I still don't see arguments on your side, Ken Sama. Come up with a better way to fight Deadshot or shut your whore trap.
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>>92844314
Don't forget that Arkham City was advertised as a Hugo Strange story and Assault on Arkham was advertised as a Suicide Squad movie.
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>>92844826
Of course this was TAS Bane, who did say it had to be accurate? The game was great anyway and the writer has some freedom here and then
The Dark Knight didn't have our usually joker neither. Bane wasn't important for Dini so what? We can read Knightfall for a better Bane, with or without Bane it was the best game of its class
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>>92856914
City was a No man land game I always wanted No man Land in a good movie or game, the situation is interesting
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People who say Asylum is better haven't played those boss fights in a while.

>that entire Poison Ivy bossfight
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>>92858412
Asylum is a strong enough game that the weak bosses don't drag it down too much.

On the other hand, outside of Mr. Freeze, the bosses in City are just as bad, and it has other weaknesses that also bring it down.
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>>92842109
I gotta disagree senpai. The rooftop swinging and flying around alone made me love the game. So satisfying to be flying around then you drop on some goons from out of nowhere.
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>>92842426
>>92853855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y
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>>92842013
It gave us the SFM video of Harley sucking off dogs, didn't it? Yeah, a classic.
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I think yhe new spiderman game on ps4 lookz like it may surpass it but i liked arkham knight too
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>>92859642
You have to be 18 to post here.
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>>92842013
The first two Arkham games are quality, MVC is fun, the first two Infamous games were great, Prototype was fun, Spiderman 2 is nearly GOAT but they're not Hulk: Ultimate Destruction.
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>>92857788
>LE WEEB
Keep being an idiot, which is expected of an Arkhamfag.
>Arkham delivers
If you have low standards.
> that's all you need, elegant.
No, retard. All you need is challenge. Arkhamshit combat will never be able to provide that. No matter how aggressive the goons are, they will always be predictable and every fight will be the exact same forgettable thing.
>I still don't see arguments on your side
Must have something to do with you being a complete idiot.
> Come up with a better way to fight Deadshot
Oh, I already did. You're just ignoring and screeching "weeb" like an autist you are. But go on, pretend a shitty puzzle and a QTE is a boss. Not like your shitty games capable of having good bosses anyway.
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>>92857788
>>92860799
girls, girls, you're both very pretty
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>>92858412
I mean, Freeze is one of the best boss fights of the last decade, but yeah the others are really weak.

>I dunno... just make Joker a giant monster or something
>I dunno... just make Joker into a giant monster or something... except it's Clayface
>I dunno... just make Joker into a giant mosnter or something... except the monster is actually within Batmans mind as he struggles to fight for control of his very being against the man who is both so different and so alike, all whilst being pumped full of toxins by the man who has just revealed Bruce Wayne to the entire world

Was pretty dope when he started using the sword in City though.
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>>92860799
The only defense I can make of BamHam's combat is that it would feel weird to see Batman pull off sick combos a la Dante or Bayo.
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>>92842189
Wew, totally forgot this
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>>92845094
>make a slow and sluggish but powerful hero
>pit him against the Flash equivalent
>slow hero punches the speedster out in a matter of minutes
Okay, it IS a pretty comic-booky game.
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>>92844542
Yes
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>>92860984
Look, it's not about combos. It's about it being very easy and enemies being the most predictable things in the world. They are never surprising. You just learn how to deal with an X type of enemy and rinse and repeat it the whole game.
There's a reason people like Freeze so much. He's lets you escape from all this monotone by making you think on your feet, especially on New Game+.
And yes, Arkham combat looks cool for about an hour or so. Then it goes on and on and on and it becomes monotonous and you feel like you're invincible even on hard difficulties.
If Arkham were straight-up stealth games, I'd like them much more. Stealth is always more fun.
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>>92842013
Asylum was better. oh someone already beat me to it.
>>92842109
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>>92858317

This. City was literally a dream game from my childhood come true. I'd always wanted a No Man's Land game.
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>>92861350

Nah, I think it emulates very perfectly how Batman must feel when he's dealing with henchmen and thugs.

It actually gets pretty interesting when there's tons of different enemy types thrown into the mix.
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>>92842013
I liked Asylum more.
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>>92858412
At least it wasn't lazy as Arkham City's Poison Ivy "boss fight".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFCN8Hh2TM
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