Did the Samurai Jack fanbase deserve everything they got

Yes.

It was pretty great

>>92817053
Yes and then some
Such a cancerous fan base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6QqVxGUzN0

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>>92820006
>MULAN SZECHUAN SAUCE MORTY

>>92820006
Fucking kek this cant be real

>>92820006
LOL

Peak /co/

>>92820187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIm-sUNHUZE

>>92817053
S5 and binge watch "fans"? I guess. They ranged from overzealous to obnoxious the entire time.
S1 - 4 fans? I can't see how, they were quiet and behaved all these years and were just glad to see their show getting a continuation and possible conclusion.

>>92820285
Do you think the S5 and Binge watch fans were the ones posting on /a/ about Samurai Jack and all the "SAMURAI KINO" threads on /tv/?

>>92820322
Maybe?
Like I said all these years SJ fans didn't make a peep about the show, there was that marathon followed by the first episode of Season 1 and suddenly a very vocal group had stars in their eyes about the show saving animation.

>fanbase
Season five created the "fanbase", and everything terrible that word implies; before that, there were just fans.

>>92820285
>>92820384
>>92821208
These are correct
Everyone who had been in the (tiny) fandom before season 5 was announced loved it
Casuals, newcomers, and normies had varying reactions, probably because it didn't feel like the continuation of an old story to them, and they hadn't actively waited a decade for any new Samurai Jack content. For most people, the show was a distant and fuzzy albeit fond memory.

The people that hopped on board just to watch season 5, sure. God just those fucking "SJ meme" threads that were just twitter memes with an SJ coat of paint alone justified their assmad.

>>92820322
Yes, absolutely.

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We got 3 episodes of some of the best western drawn animation and storytelling in the last decade.
Then 7 episodes of average plot and some fanservice.

I'm just happy we got a season 5 at all really. The start of the season boosted my expectations sky high so that's mainly why episode 4 onward feels so mediocre to me.

>>92821760
Don't forget the Fujoshit and PLZ SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT ASHI threads

>>92821710
I watched Jack the first time it air and didn't love season 5. But I didn't think it needed an ending anyway. I don't understand why anyone cared about the overarching plot when the show was overwhelmingly more about episodic adventures.

>>92821930
Just because it isn't sickdark doesn't mean it sucks

>>92822870
Nobody cared about the plot until it ruined the entire show.

>>92824188
how did it ruin anything?

>>92824235
it killed off what made us like it in the first place

>>92824849
oh

>>92817053
If they were okay with the final then yes, they deserved that shit seaon.

>>92825393
The season was much worse than the finale.

>>92824171
Just because it's not sickdark doesn't mean it's not shit. There was a way to make this season light-hearted and good, Genndy failed that.

And you know, all of Jack's friends in the future are dead at best, so the ending was pretty fucking sickdark in my opinion.

>>92825433
>everybody is dead meme
>when no cartoon that deals with time travel ever uses this trope

>>92821997
At least those fujo threads were pretty funny

I was a fan of the original and enjoyed the new season greatly. So, I guess I got what I deserved, maybe?

>>92825433
In the end, Jack became a bigger villain than Aku.
Kind of ironic, huh?

>>92825433
>>92825519
You futurefags need to keep it in your fanfics.

>>92825542
When fanfics sound better than the real thing then you know something is wrong

>>92825603
That's your opinion.

>>92825451
I don't remember a cartoon that did time travel in a satisfactory way, but I remember an episode where Jack saves two monks and gives up going back to the past with the portal they were trying to reach. So since we have seen no scene where the future characters are alvie and happy I'm just assuming that, based on what I've been shown before, that the future that is Aku still exist and that Aku killed everyone attacking him. Or they got erased from reality, which isn't much better.

The fact that the majority of S5 fans are literally Tumblr circlejerks proves how cancerous it was
>muh Jashi

>>92825451
It did in this show and it used it horribly. There's no split timeline in this shows time travel. All they had to say was Ashi died from overexertong herself but instead they go full retard and say Ashi disappears from the timeline

>>92825711
Nah, Ashi wouldn't have disappeared if future Aku was still there. Jack saving the monks instead of going back to the past is just Jack being Jack. He's too nice for his own good. Aku has fucked himself over quite a few times for being too evil; same's happened to Jack for being too good.

Season 5 was a mistake that should be treated as fan fiction.

>>92825763
>Fan fiction
>made by the original creator
Like it or not, you can't call it fanfiction without being in denial.

>>92825754
If Aku didn't exist Ashi wouldn't exist either so Jack wouldn't have been able to get back to the past. Your logic is flawed, jsut like the finale for arbitraly sparing Jack and killing Ashi even though both of them lived the majority.of their life in the future that is Aku.

>>92820006
every fandom is cancer, anon

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>>92820285
>muh "s5 fans" vs "true fans" comparison

>>92825763
>>92825792
You probably think LOK is official material too, don't you? Fucking plebs, when will they learn.

>>92825848
t.s5 babby

>>92825804
Jack is spared from paradoxes on the virtue of belonging to another timeline; the same reason why he doesn't age.

>>92825433
GOTTA STAY
GOTTA STAY IN THE FUTURE
SAMURAI JACK

WACHA!

>>92825881
>I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE IT WITH MY OWN

>>92825433
>And you know, all of Jack's friends in the future are dead at best, so the ending was pretty fucking sickdark in my opinion.

sounds like you didn't get it.

>>92825924
If 99% of /co/ says it, actual reality no longer matters much. Everyone knows opinions are PC outside of 4chan.

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>>92825744
I'm not talking about splitting time travel. Most of the time when someone goes back to the past to change the future in cartoons, the characters still exist with different lives.

Pic related is an exact example of the same thing with Samurai Jack.

>>92825924
If you want a season that was utterly trash and that made four previous seasons non existent as canon, then i pity you.

>>92826054
I didn't think it was trash; I'm so grateful your opinion is completely meaningless to me.

>>92817053
I genuinely don't understand how people think this was good. With the bad pacing, ham-fisted romance, and myriad of other problems people have talked about to death here, I just don't get how people can still think that it's good. I've always thought people had low standards if any, but when something is this unabashedly bad I usually see at least a decent amount of backlash, I just don't get it.

>>92826219
>daily threads hating it
>not a decent amount of backlash

>>92826245
Do you see any backlash anywhere but here? Every review says it's amazing it has a 100% percent on Rotten Tomatoes and every written review is the same, every video on it basically heralds it as the second coming of cartoons. Even on here when someone says it's bad they're called a contrarian and ignored. I don't care about reviews but it's part of a larger problem with standards of quality that people have ignored for a long time that I just can't stand.

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>>92826397
>100% percent on Rotten Tomatoes

>>92826397
Just look on youtube, or any comments section, really.

>>92820322
Yes

>>92826557
I have, have you? Because the majority still day it's good.
>>92826522
Great response, because a perfect review on a large reviewer with a 93% viewer grade means absolutely nothing because you don't care about it. I think the majority of review sites are stupid but pretending they mean nothing and aren't indicative of a larger problem is downright retarded. But what am I thinking, this is 4 chan, can't actually take anything seriously, better to just pretend everything we don't like doesn't exist and ignore them until they become too large to.

Rebel Taxi just made a retrospect on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFdSKRueRQ

>>92826738
Jesus, you are butt hurt

>muh critics like it

Is that you Genndy?

I'm confused. What did the Samurai Jack fanbase get that they "had coming to them?"

I loved season 5 up until the last half of the finale. And even though I hated and have ranted about the ending there are plenty if other fans that liked or even loved the ending. Yes, I hated the ending and yes it soured me on the show, but it's hard for me to look back and call season 5 terrible because of it. Especially when I had so much fun watching the new episodes every week..

>>92825982
That's just even worse time traveling. The butterfly effect means that none of those people would be born

>>92817053
After Rickgate, yeah, I have no sympathy for them

>>92826801
What are you talking about? Did read a thing I wrote? I think it's garbage you moron, pay attention.

>>92826870
Your droning on and on like a little butt hurt bitch tends to make people just skim over the crap you type.

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>>92817053
If the final season was done in 2005 it would have been much better

>>92826960
So I'm butthurt if I liked it and butthurt if I hate it. You can't even spend 25 seconds reading the comments you're responding to, you're a joke.

So much ashi that jack didnt even get a scene with his parents

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>>92821930
E4 really isn't any worse than E1-3

>>92827073
Because you all would have been 12 years younger and had lower standards like you did when you liked the show in the first place.

>>92817053
>Did the Samurai Jack fanbase deserve everything they got coming to them?

A decent final season with an expected ending?
Yeah sure, why not

>>92827221
I hate when people say shit like this. You have no argument so you just say its because of age

It would have at least been different with the guardian and jack the king

>>92826054
But it was because of the actions of those previous 4 seasons that got Jack is (mostly) happy ending, so there's that...

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A shitty season with a rushing ending and bad writing?

Honestly, maybe, the fact that so many people ate it up and called it masterpiece even in the worst episodes made me disgusted. Truly the western animation industry has the audience it deserves.

>>92826839
Aren't many things in Jack's world already predetermined?

>>92826738
>Because the majority still day it's good.

Are u sure about that?

It may not have been perfect, obviously some people are going to have some issues, but overall it was pretty fr*cken gud.

>>92827310
Genndy has stated on several occasions that the Guardian ep wasn't an actual build-up to anything and he didn't have a clear ending in mind at the time.

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>>92827189
There's having an opinion and then there's being objectively wrong anon.

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>>92821710
>it didn't feel like the continuation of an old story to them
it didn't for oldfans either

>but muhh lyrics in the opening

>>92827475
Don't act like you speak for all oldfans. I'm an oldfan & I am happy with the season 5 ending & I loved S5 as a whole.

>>92820285
>I can't see how
How about worshipping a mediocre cartoon as if it were the second coming of Christ? How about autistically screaming and throwing a fit whenever anyone points out the shows numerous, glaring flaws?

SJ isn't bad. It's okay. Like, MLAATR-tier. But the way the fandom is always sucking Genndy's dick makes it Rick & Morty-tier terrible.

>>92827588
>Rick & Morty-tier terrible

Hello /pol/

>>92827454
You got a link to an interview or something?

>>92827621
What are you talking about? /pol/ loves Ricky & Morty

>>92827439
I'm confused, do you think the majority of people don't think its's good? I personally think it was bad all around but as I said, though misspelled, the majority of people I hear talk about it say they think it's good, as did you.

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>>92827528
even though it doesn't mesh with the entirety of the plot of samurai jack, sans the intro?

>>92827588
>mediocre

but that's where you're wrong

shit was lit

>>92827454
>post-episode interview cop out

How to identify a Hack 101

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>>92825451
>>92825982
I'm not sure if I've seen it in cartoons, but I've seen some other media address how horrifying the idea of snuffing out potential futures and rewriting people out of existence can be.

In a lot of time-travel stories, all the characters exist in both the good and bad future because the the point of divergence took place after the characters had already been born. But if it takes place before their births? In that case butterfly effect should kick in and make everything unpredictable. And that is the case with the future cast of Samurai Jack; the story takes place so long after Jack's original era that anything could change. Maybe Jack defeating Aku meant that the Earth stays mundane and human, instead of being occupied by tons of aliens and robots. Maybe people don't need to have as large families in the new timeline, and all of the Scotsman's daughters are gone. Maybe one of his ancestors was supposed to meet his wife at a hospital after being attacked by Aku's minions, but in the new timeline that never happens so the lineage that leads to the Scotsman won't exist. Who knows. If the show had given any confirmation in the form of an epilogue, we would know for sure how the future ended up, but now we'll just have to keep guessing.

>>92827663
>Jack went back to the past
>Defeated Aku & prevented centuries of suffering in the future
>doesn't mesh

>>92827663
>it doesn't mesh with the entirety of the plot of samurai jack

The part about finding a time portal and killing Aku?
You're saying some pretty retarded stuff, my man

>>92827701
It's time travel, I don't know why people are analyzing it so hard. It's just a cartoon lol.

Besides, ashi's spirit lives on in that ladybug

>>92827630
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/10/14881920/samurai-jack-season-five-genndy-tartakovsky-cartoon-network-adult-swim

>>92827724
>>92827752
>every time jack rejects a portal he does so in favor of the future, minus the ending
>ashi's redemption arc hinges on there being hope and jack improving the future
>jack doesn't kill himself precisely because he isn't failing at saving people
>the tone of the entire series is romantically optimistic until the abrupt morally utilitarian ending
you're conflating the plot with a plot device

>>92827925
>hurrr duurrr there was hope so all the people that died before hand and that we are reminded of every intro don't matter -_-

You are stupid, back to fanfiction.net with you.

>>92827925
the series could have ended the first time jack came across a portal and forewent it for something more pressing

>>92827925
>Jack rejecting time portal
Because in times like the episode with the monks, it was Jack being the hero that he is & the finale was Jacks last chance of ever going back, unlike every other time he rejected a portal.

>the tone of the entire series is romantically optimistic until the abrupt morally utilitarian ending

The ending in some ways was positive. Yes, Ashi & all of Jacks friends died/were erased. But despite that, Jack going back & slaying Aku created a world that Ashi & his friends would've wanted. A world that wasn't ruled by a shogun of sorrow, a world of peace. And despite the friends Jack made & his love being gone, he created a better future.

>>92827998
>hurrr duurrr it's good to save the dead but erase the living just like he always did when he found a portal and its accompanying moral dilemma

>>92827998
It kinda makes all those times Jack ignored getting back to the past to save someone in the future pretty retarded if he just wipes the slate clean at the end anyway

>>92828108
Genndy had an "excuse", which is that the show is episodic so not ending in episode 8 makes sense.

If you thought he wasn't going back in the endgame you are delusional.

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>>92827998
>>92828085
yeah the show was really leading up to this ending the whole time and the ending wasn't at all artificial and shoehorned in

>>92828183
Correct.

>>92828183
Considering that going back was Jack's goal from day one, yes. It was leading up to it. Whenever Jack saved people it was because they were in immediate danger & Jack, being the good guy he is, wanted to help them. But in the end, his mind was still on going back & undoing all the shit Aku did to the world.

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>>Show is about a guy trying to unmake the future that is Aku
>Much more screentime is devoted to muh new friends, muh power of love, muh unmitigated altruism than lamenting the dead and utilitarian morality (bad outweighing the good, etc.) because jack comes across countless devastated villages and always moves right on with bettering things, which he in fact does, and the whole thing about him committing sudoku (the entirety of episode 6) culminates in him realizing he didn't actually fail the dead like he thought he did, and he also saved ashi's life just by giving her hope
>at this point the show is sending a mixed message between the intro and the development of the story but retards on the internet assert the intro is more valid because it's older
>when the inconsistency could just be reconciled with some shit like figuratively undoing the future by way of virtuousness instead of literally sci-fi erasing it

>>92828228
>>92828234
>but muhh lyrics in the opening means it's good writing

>>92828285
>the show is sending a mixed message
Not really, because Jack was always about getting back. Hell, in the scene where Aku destroyed the last time portal, Jack was trying to get back.

>>92828323
Explain how it is bad writing.

>>92828108
They were fully retarded to begin with, showing Jack's primitive morality system at the time. Reality taught him that you can't always have your cake and eat it.

>>92828325
>Not really, because Jack was always about getting back
how was he "always about getting back" when the development of the story shows otherwise

>>92828340
>>92828285

>>92828363
>>92828157
I'm not saying it's good writing that he didn't go in those episodes, but him going eventually it's good writing.

>>92828323
Where in my post did I mention the opening intro? I'm talking about how in the show itself, Jack's main goal was always about getting back & undoing the damage Aku had done to the world. I get being disappointed by the ending, but you're acting like a little bitch right now, anon.

>>92828363
Because that was the one thing he was focused on above all else in the entire series?

>>92828386
>Jack being the epitome of a flat character with no arc is good writing.

>>92828401
>Because that was the one thing he was focused on above all else in the entire series?
Really? He wasn't focused on saving people, making friends and the best of any situation? He was just focused on jumping into the first plot device portal he found?

>>92828285
>kills Aku in the past
>doesn't kill Aku in the future
They still didn't explain this.

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>>92828489
>Jack being the epitome of a flat character with no arc is good writing
(You) are getting desperate, Mr. Headcanon.

>>92828285
>sending mixed messages
>HOPE IS LOST
>GOTTA GET BACK
>BACK TO THE PAST
>AKU'S EVIL CHOKES THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE

Yeah, Jack was all about this lovely future alright.

>>92828489
He wanted to save people, but at the end of the day, he still wanted to go back.

>He was just focused on the jumping into the first plot device portal he found?
If no one is in danger like the monks, then that would be his number one focus.

>>92828401
>Because that was the one thing he was focused on above all else in the entire series?
except all those times saving people took precedence to taking a time portal
if he was really fully focused on getting back, he would have just hopped in the first portal he found at that would have been that, he would have saved himself half a century of bullshit and us a decade of waiting.

>>92828597
What part of: Jack is also a good guy who will help people in immediate danger do you not get? He wanted to always go back, but if someone needs his help, he will help them because he's a good guy.

>>92828401
>>92828517
Every time Jack came across a portal while there were innocents in danger, he let the portal go in favor of his friends, except for the very last time he finds one and is FORCED into it. He is given no agency so a shitty preconceived gut-punch ending can happen inorganically. Do you not see how this stands out against Jack's ACTIONS throughout the entirety of the series? Or are you just going to continue to cling to the non-argument "muh intro is older" addressed here >>92828285

You can't have the narrative constantly give you evidence that the future is salvageable and then expect people to simply accept that the past was the only solution.
It wasn't, and if you chose the past it should at least be done in a manner that acknowledges the themes and characters that you have portrayed, not a last second Deus Ex Machina that forces a choice on a character that has been shown conflicted about said choice before.
Otherwise what was the point of Jack forfeiting all the other portals for the sake of the future people?
If the end comes to Ashi kicking him through a portal only for her to die a minute later then what was her weight in the story as a character? You could replace her with a random Spartan and the result could have been exactly the same since at the end of the journey Jack simply "accepts" everything for what it is and moves on.
And whether the future or the past is the better option shouldn't be a debate because it should have been Jack's choice, not a forced circumstance, and the plot should have been leading towards that particular end in ways that go beyond the opening track.
There was no point in showing/creating a hopeful future because you disregard it at the end without a thought.
There was no point in going back after you dedicate the biggest sub-plot to Jack accepting that the future is just as much worth saving.
There was no point to his over 50 years in the future because at the end he did nothing that he wasn't capable of at the pilot, nor did he learn anything meaningful from his quest.
The season was visually appealing, the soundtrack was great, and I enjoyed all the characters, but the conclusion had been written separately from the journey and was hammered into it instead of carefully painted with the strokes made by Jack's path.
"What choices you make, and the actions that follow, are a reflection of your soul." Yet Jack made no choice when it mattered the most.
Bravo, Genndy.

>>92828658
>>92828157

In the end we got a great final season that pissed off all the more cancerous parts of the fanbase (futurefags, /r9k/, shippers etc.).

>>92828685
>it was salvageable

When are you faggots going to understand that Jack wasn't about "fixing" but about "preventing"?
Like holy shit.

>>92828685
The future was salvageable, but it was still a shit future. The world would've been better (and is better) by it not happening at all. Which was Jack's whole mission, to prevent the bad future from occurring at all.

>>92828703
Right, it's categorically bad writing. The themes shown in the story become meaningless with the ending that never even goes anywhere from the starting point. The ending waters down the message of the show to what could literally be 1 episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGZ51MUWPjU

There would be no difference.

>>92828734
The PLOT DEVICE of the show was preventing. JACK was about fixing. Did you even watch the show?

>>92828832
Jack saw that some of future was worth saving, but in the end, it would've been better if the future never needed fixing to begin with. Which is why he still wanted to go back & prevent it all from happening.

>>92828832
>JACK was about fixing
Then why was he searching for portals in the first place?

>>92827474
This scene is pure kino tho:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6lZRXaFIw

>>92828815
>a show about killing the baddie in the past to prevent the future is bad because then there's no future because it was prevented by killing the baddie

are you retarded

>>92828902
Exactly. Jack never learns anything, grows, or develops as a character and all of his travels may as well have not happened, because in the end he goes from A to B and everything else is meaningless dramatic filler.

>>92828976
Doesn't matter. Choosing to forego a portal betrays what is more important to him.

>>92829105
>Choosing to forego a portal betrays what is more important to him.
Good thing he went to the past in the finale anyway, Genndy might be a hack on episodic writing but stays true to the character's goals in the continuous arc, even if everything else was shit.

>>92829098
>flat characters are good writing

are you retarded

>>92829157
>set goals make characters flat
Stop.

>>92829150
You have it backwards. Some of the episodic writing actually had something deeper going on than plot device ridden shitty time travel. Achieving goals by way of trying over and over without character growth is not an arc.

>>92829285
>without character growth
Okay so you didn't watch SJ, you should've started there.
Also I said almost every time travel focus episode was stupid, not the non-time travel episodes.

>>92829331
flat character
noun
1.
an easily recognized character type in fiction who may not be fully delineated but is useful in carrying out some narrative purpose of the author.

Maybe if Jack decided to say fuck you to all his friends and stopped being an altruist at the end he'd have changed as a character.

>>92829414
>simple = flat
God futurefags are retarded

stay mad faggot

>>92828685
PRECISELY why the ending pissed me off as much as it did and why it felt so unsatisfying.

>>92829456
Name some ways in which he changed.

Pastfags are fine with kids' show popcorn entertainment.

>>92829098
It was about going on adventures in a wacky future and constantly sacrificing chances to go back to the past in order to better the future

Jacks only real quest was to slay aku. That was the quest given by his father, and reforced by his teachers and the gods.

The idea of returning to the past was entirely his own. An idea created by a 20 something years old optimistic boy with no real knowledge of time lines fuckery or philosophical implications of it.

He fucking talk with his fathers ghost in a previous season and he is all chill in HEAVEN and tell jack to not blame himself for what aku has done, that he is doing his best.

>>92820285
Honestly, I used to loathe how underappreciated Samurai Jack was. Now I just wish it could return to the old days where everyone didn't love it so much just because everyone else loved it. I'll be honest, I thought the ending was underwhelming and a cop-out on several levels. It was exactly what was expected, which is okay if you just got into the show, but I kind of wish they had gone the route of keeping Jack in the future after defeating Aku and accepting it. But I guess I'm in the minority of viewers now, so what do I know.

>>92829617
>He fucking talk with his fathers ghost in a previous season
That was Jack's memories of them consoling him while Aku was literally infecting his soul. He never actually met them in some afterlife

>>92828658
but he loved Ashi, so it's a bit different in this case

>>92829617
Exactly, he never learns to let go of the past, that everything that he's been doing IS undoing the future that is Aku, he never gets to save the past and alternate versions of his friends while losing the girl for the bittersweetness or some shit, etc. He essentially manages to break even after some bad shit happened and everything in between is pointless besides giving him memories and rubbing salt in the wound.

>>92828976
>Then why was he searching for portals in the first place?
Because they are a plot device used to show samurai's adventures in the future. Gee, that was a really difficult question.

>>92825542
So what do you think happened? That they were erased from existence? I would never wish that on my worst enemies, much less the billions or trillions of inhabitants of Aku's world?

>>92829840
Wasn't part of the show, doesn't matter.

>literally the entire show but the premise is about the future
>whenever there's a chance to go back to the past the protagonist (often willingly) doesn't do it, because he's saving the future and because literally the entire show show is about the future
>no one but complete spergs and retards care about the past, why the fuck would you, the show gives you zero reasons to do so
>"the show was about the past, fututrfags are hopeless"

Yeah OK

>>92829840
>That they were erased from existence
This can be assumed since they're not shown after the time fuckery is resolved, and Jack is essentially alone with his memories

>>92829617
see
>>92829760

It's somewhat ambiguous if it's merely a memory, but his father and mother's shade assert that they live on in his heart. Still, they take a notably non-Jack perspective in rallying him.

>>92828812
Yes, but there were plenty of good people in that future, people with their own moral stakes and agendas, people with whom Jack had a mutual respect and friendship, that were just erased from existence. If you were in Jack's place, wouldn't you think twice?

>>92830061
>that were just erased from existence

you don't know that.

>>92829955
I don't understand your argument? You're saying that as long as we don't SEE them getting wiped out, that it never happened? You realize that the point of nonexistence is that they never came to be and that their perspective was erased as soon as Jack jumped into the portal? Why are you so thick-headed?

>>92817053

I got what I wanted. Jack got back to the past, not even in the games was he allowed to do that because of Genndy.

>>92830104
My point is it's a cartoon.

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>>92817053
Did we?

>>92830130

But anon-chan, pls explain about all the other time portals. They were only broken when Jack was near them so is time travel wrong!?

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At least they addressed this blue fuck

>>92827632
Anything I don't like is /pol/, man, that's how things roll

>>92830256
oh him? yeah he dead. just forget about that weird image of jack with a crown lmao i don't even know why that was even there desu
Kino

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Considering the rampant spam and autism they spewed for 3 months, yes.

>>92827790
What a hack.

>>92829755
I don't feel like he needed to stay in the future, I personally wanted him to get back to the past and finally succeed at saving his home. But I was hoping they'd do something a little more interesting with the whole thing like for example address the dangers of rewriting history, show Jack and his allies pointing out that danger and accepting the potential sacrifices they'd face, do something with the king Jack concept, make future Aku follow Jack into the past to defend his younger self, or whatever. The way the events unfolded felt so disappointingly simple and sudden. And I've already seen Gurren Lagann, so copying their ending didn't particularly impress me either.

>>92829955
Do you think that's an acceptable way to end a story? Resolution isn't showed and that supposedly means that it doesn't matter what happens to the characters that people cared about?

>>92830083
Nice headcanon. If they weren't then they would have been shown.

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I have a hunch that the people bitching would be the same guys posting shit like this if he just killed Aku in the future.
>gotta get back
>doesn't actually go back to the past
BRAVO GENNDY

Just shitposting.

>>92830387
There was resolution though.

>>92830620
>If they weren't then they would have been shown.

why?

>>92830713
I find this image far funnier than I probably should lol.

>>92830387
I'd have been happier if Jack saved the past but also didn't get to live in it. Erasing everyone in the future ended up kind of nonsensical. Maybe killing Aku erases his whole presence in the timeline or something, so his family knows Jack saved the day and he ends up as a martyr to them, and the bittersweetness is he has to cope and let go of the past.

And Ashi, but I don't give a fuck about her, she can still die.

>>92830997
>Erasing everyone in the future ended up kind of nonsensical.

We don't know for sure that happened though

>>92830735
What happened to the Scotsman, his daughters, the talking dogs, the Spartans, and everybody else in the new timeline?

>>92831034
Something better than what happened in the Aku timeline i would imagine

>>92831024
I'm with >>92830620
>>92831034

If they were around, we'd have had alternate versions or the "tons of daughters" joke in the time between Aku dying and the wedding. That was supposedly a long period and we see all of Jack's past mentors, but no future guys anywhere.

>>92831079
>but no future guys anywhere.

probably because it's not the future anymore?

>>92831141
Ashi's timing was completely arbitrary, and you could get around what you're saying with timeless characters like the guardian (though he has baggage) and robots, aliens, sea monsters, geographic locations, etc. There could have been hints and we didn't see any.

>>92831274
>There could have been hints and we didn't see any.

doesn't mean they no longer exist

>>92831302
If we were supposed to have closure we'd have gotten it. The ending is all about him letting go as well.

>>92831580
He got to the past and killed Aku, that sounds like closure to me

>>92831612
Closure regarding the future dudes, my dude.

>>92831668
sure, but again, my point is that doesn't mean they were wiped out, just haven't been born yet.

>>92831812
What makes you believe the same characters will be born desipte the timeline being changed.

>>92831812
If he didn't want them to be erased, why didn't he show us? The point of an ending is to tie up all the loose ends. Shit like the butterfly effect is a household term and it's a part of audience expectations whenever time travel fuckery gets brought up.

>>92831877
What makes you think they won't?

>>92831935
>why didn't he show us?

There's only so many minutes per episode (that said they sure wasted a lot of time showing various characters running to the TV)

>>92832022
Come on man, they wouldn't have cut information like that considering everything else in the episode. It wouldn't even take long.

>>92829105
Typical defender of primitive morality system >>92828362

>>92832079
You don't have to explicitly spell everything out, the ladybug scene basically did that already anyway

>>92831935
to leave place for interpretation. maybe you're an edgelord and want all those focking good goys ded.

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>>92817053
>Bring back a series thats been dead for 13 years for only a 10 episode season.
>Spend half the season focused on some baboon faced, literally who, no one cares about
>Add a cringy forced romance to appease shippingfags
>Blatantly rip off an anime ending for the finale.

Yeah

>>92832205
>nobody cares about

there was a huge Ashi appreciation thread just yesterday full of anons crying over her

>>92832136
and what do you think the ladybug scene conveyed in relation to those characters

>>92832125
The fuck? For all we know Jack is still an altruistic moralfag at the end. He didn't get taught shit.

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>>92832205
Or maybe this is the kind of closure and rounding off the series needed - Jack's emotional and literal journey is over. He's known sorrow, despair and love, and learned to be at peace with the world that he helped to restore.

Better to have loved and lost than to not have loved at all.

>>92832318
the good stuff from the future lives on

>>92832157
Yeah nah, I interpret the ending as grimdark but I'd rather Jack didn't get fucked so hard.

>>92832389
It was him letting go of Ashi etc. There's a female vocal playing over that scene that says “renchaku ha na hanasa na”, which is Japanese for “your love has been set free" or something to that effect.

>>92832389
>>92832511
And the ladybug was always used symbolically in scenes with Ashi

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>>92817053
Yeah it was pretty great
it was all worth it

>>92833372
not for Jack it wasn't!!!

I've never watched Samurai Jack, but I've heard that the ending was shit, anyone wanna explain why?.

>>92832257
*Nobody with taste cares about

>>92835127
The ending is basically a 200 hour long movie made episodes that somehow manages to feel rushed as fuck, for some reason they thought it would be a good idea to set the season 50 years into the future, introduce a female romance interest nobody ever asked for and of course have her take about half the entire screen time of the whole thing. Oh yeah and they ripped of TTGL in the very end.

It was just a really poor use of time by Genndy and their team, they had an idea of how to do the finale but they didn't have the writing skill to pull it of.

Also a bunch of retards got mad that Jack fulfilled his mission of going back to the past because the shitty romance interest died because of it, when him going back is probably the one thing the whole season got right aside from the visuals.

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>>92817053
No fan base ever deserves bad things. If fans are your problem, learn to filter and ignore little things that bother you. You'll be happier that way.

>>92835481
I think they just didn't have the episodes to make it work. People complain about 'wasted' time, but all the things they bitch about are either classic Jack humor or combat, or else part of the season's character building. If each ep had been an ACTUAL 30 minutes, they would have had freer reign and some parts (like the last 4 minutes) would have felt less compacted and unsatisfying.

>>92835722
I mean I do say they wasted time with Ashi, as in holy fuck who asked for this character, if you would to remove her then you could tell a kick ass story with good writing and well developed arcs. But people shut the argument down by saying Ashi is essential to the story when what I'm saying is that that is the problem in the first place.

>>92835127
Shippers

If you've never watched it before you'll love the shit out of the last season for sure

>>92828085
I wanna add on to your post to say that after saving the world, Jack could easily find someone else because there aren't bounty hunters trying to bring him to Aku all the time.

>>92836427
uhm

he's also a king

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>>92836595
oops! stupid name field

Yea. Think a few went over to /a/ to pretend it was hot shit

Shame it was hot shit after episode 3

>>92836595
Yeah, cinsidering he's actually a prince. Like he told his evil hallucination:
>It always seems bad at first, but I find a way

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>>92836705

>>92836705
*considering

>Jack could have gone full madman, making the future earth travel to the past
>We got THAT

>>92836815
let it go.

By the middle of the second episode I had come to terms with the fact that there was no way he could resolve everything in 10 epsiodes at the pace he was going.

>>92827663
You fucking see, this is why I hate these season 5 bandwagoners. They are so fucking incompetent to understand that there is no fucking plot to samurai jack that isn't explained EVERY FUCKING EPISODE FOR 4 GOD DAMN SEASONS that they keep doing shit like this pretending there is some deep story or lore to fucking SJ.

Keep being cancer /co/ and while you are at it to take a Shakespearean classic and try to discern a new meaning from the story you assholes.

>>92837270
I think someone is butthurt.

>>92837071
I don't think you understand that jack's goal is literally resolved within 15 minutes of an episode. The 10 episode stretch wasn't made to have 10 episodes of resolution, it was made to be a ride to watch so you can finally see the resolution that literally takes 10 minutes to show at the end of 40% of the episodes if jack should choose to forsake their allies who are helping him get to the portal to kill aku in the past.

>>92837337
he has a point tho

there's more to a story than plot

Why do we have Ashi appreciation threads?

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>>92837485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9hFRw5jeRQ

>>92825915
>I prefer the solutions to morally ambiguous choices told to me in a catchy theme song

>>92828976
https://youtu.be/xTVTbLOMVaY?t=2m14s

>>92829991
we literally know like 2 people from the past: Jack's parents. His mentors don't count because they had less than 2 mins of screentime each.

How Genndy can just shit all over the characters that viewers actually give a fuck about is beyond me.

>>92840064
but they were all there in the finale, what else could you want?

Remember that time when Nia faded out of existence at Simon's wedding because they defeated the anti-spiral?

>>92821710
The show was ruined after episode 3, the last good episode. The quality took a massive dip after that and only got worse

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>>92817053
Did we?

>>92828502
I can try to explain.

Aku was much more powerful in the future than in the past, for Past Aku's eye lasers only set things on fire, and Aku only used shapeshifting and lasers in his first fights, and was only active for around 20 years before sending Jack into the future, so he had a small range of powers. But Future Aku? He's had thousands of years to get a full grasp on what he is capable of, including more destructive eye beams, that spike rain thing he did, and turning others into smaller versions of himself.

There.

>>92826397
Plenty of people dislike it. I personally think it was a good season, had some great scenes and all in all managed to give Jack a proper conclusion. Although I might be a minority here.

>>92830713
"NO, WAIT!"

>>92827073
If it had been done in 2005 it would have just been another season of episodic stories and then a two parter to conclude the series. Whether you'd prefer that to what we got, that's up to you. I would have accepted gratefully anything to be honest; more Jack is always good.

>>92841100
Oh, and a wider range of shapeshifting.

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>>92820006
Why do people choose to record their autism.
Why do people choose to share their autism with the world.

>>92817094
FPBP

The only people who like SJ are oldfags with their nostalgia glasses welded to their faces, and edgy teens who will latch onto anything that isn't too "tumblr" regardless of quality

>>92840704
No because that anime is garbage.

>>92841100
Ashi would even the odds in the future fight though given that she was shown to have many powers on par with Aku.

>>92841379
Good taste

>>92840888
Man, why couldn't the whole season have been like episode 2

>>92817053
Honest Answer: Yes
Brutally Honest Answer: Fuck yes. You abandoned The Loud House and alienated Loud House and other shows you guys got what you deserved!

Beforehand, maybe not. But retroactively, yes because of how they reacted for getting an ending at all.

>>92843532
go back to /trash/

>>92843699
Lie to me but don't lie to yourself. You know it's the truth!

>>92841375
>t. Tumblr

Sam Jack's ending provided closure to the series. Im happy to see it end. I'm also yearning for more. They ending should of had a few loose ends as a way for more seasons to be introduced. Tartakvsky will likely end his career on this high note. But damnit i want more.

>>92844073
That's the vibe I got to, I really want more but at the same time I'm glad it's finished in a somber tone

At this point it seems that Samurai Jack's last season was fine.

I am seeing more and more support as time goes on.

Is it just contrarianfags shitposting again?

>>92837485
Because I really really like Ashi, and I was really really pissed off at the conclusion of her arc.

>>92817053
We got a conclusion.
Was it good, no.
But at least that closes the desire for an ending.

>>92841365
Obviously because they don't know they're autistic. They think they're being enthusiastic and (((unique))).

>>92845802
It's like the old saying goes, "give it time to ferment like wine and it'll be fine"

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Holy shit, half this episode and a majority of the series is cringey bullshit.
But these 10 seconds are fucking gold.

>>92849535
Did they ever even fug?

>>92843480
Because then it would have been 3 seasons instead of 1.

>>92849747
Shame, this would've been great. Ashi would get more development too.

>>92829840
>Trillions of inhabitants slaughtered & oppressed over eons
>Trillions of future-inhabitants not coming into existence because the slaughter & oppression was prevented
Anon you're retarded if you think the latter is worse.
What happens to Aku's future is literally meaningless.
To be honest though, I'm surprised they didn't go with a "she perpetuates Aku's seed & the timeloop becomes cyclical" meme.

>>92841100
On top of this, notice how past Aku stood and fought against Jack. Future Aku learned from his mistake in trying to take on Jack one-on-one as long as he had his sword, so literally any time Jack has the upper hand he fucked off to regain his strength and waste more of Jack's time. He even says this outright in Jack vs Aku.

In other words, future Aku was literally impossible to defeat since he'll just run away from any losing battle.

>>92849777
Yeah. You can tell they had enough material to do it, depending on what the producers wanted. Notice how quick Ashi turned from hatred to crush? 1, 2 episodes?
How she did a half-episode montage to see all the shit jack had done? That could have easily been 2-4 episodes if they'd wanted as much fluff as was in the original.

>>92846338
What about any of that is remotely jewish?

Samurai Jack was never a story-driven/serialzed cartoon. Getting back to the past was never much more than a pretext for the plot of each episode, so I never really cared about getting some sort of grand conclusion to Samurai Jack.

I was one of the many fans banging the drum for Genndy's long-gestating SJ movie, which eventually became season 5, but not because I wanted to see the story end, I just wanted more Samurai Jack.

I guess what I'm saying is I never really had expectations for season 5 but it ended up letting me down because it didn't play to the original's strengths. To be honest if the series had to end definitively, I would've much preferred it to happen in the span of a single 22 minute episode.

>>92849829
>Anon you're retarded if you think the latter is worse.

You're fucking retarded. The trillions who were slaughtered and oppressed are already dead being erased doesn't matter to them, though it does shit all over their memories. There were still billions of living people in the future that Jack erased. And he did it to save, what, a dozen thousand people in the past? Maybe? You're one stupid animal.

>>92830344
Eh visions are notoriously...cryptic.

>>92849937
>because it didn't play to the original's strengths

It never could, because it was never created with that in mind. You are right about the show being episodic, but that was not the intention of this season and for people to see a linear story puts a certain expectation on what the story will be.

Genndy wanted a grandiose finish and that needed solid development. We started to see it and we got the end result that isn't bad by any means, but hobbled by the lack of space to properly fulfil itself.

That and disappearing Ashi, fuck you Genndy.

>>92832205
>literally who
Does it disturb you to know she was the actual hero of Aku's future?
>prophesied samurai fag stomps around for 50 years failing to do anything
>eventually goes insane, gives up, tries to commit sudoku
>literally-who prevents this, gets his fabled sword back, and then poofs them both back to the past with her special evil-for-good powers so he could do his fucking job
>proceeds to disappear right before the shipping bone in ultimate mary-suedom
kek

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>>92849977
Can't tell if I'm being baited.

>>92837270
The fuck? Take off your nostalgia goggles retard and use your brain. How can you not even recognize that Jack is your archetypal moralfag? They fucking hit you over the head with it in EVERY episode INCLUDING and ESPECIALLY in the new season. And it's fine that they made him morally simplistic, because this is fiction, and they are showing you an ideal. Jack is a righteous dude and he is one by his own volition, because he gets to make choices with every situation he encounters. He's a hero by choice. He always chooses to help the innocent and the disadvantaged and to make the best of things. And that's what the plot is: the main events of the story consist of Jack helping people out. That's literally it. Then the ending goes and cheapens the entire experience by FORCING Jack into a contrived plot device so Genndy can get his preconceived ending where some bitch contrivedly disappears, and he doesn't even tie up the loose ends regarding what happened to the rest of the characters we were made to care about. That's straight up bad storytelling and the amount of people wanting NOT a happier ending but better RESOLUTION should tell you something.

>>92851001
Dude, they all didn't exist.
Or rather, they have yet to exist, in a better future.
That's the resolution.

>>92851064
>Or rather, they have yet to exist, in a better future.
Headcanon isn't resolution.

Didn't think the ending was particularly well done, but asides from shamelessly ripping off gurren laggan everything that happened was exactly what should have happened.

Jack should have absolutely completed his quest, got back to the past and undid the evil that is Aku.

>>92851081
You really have to have it spelled out for you that Aku being dead results in a better future?
Or that the show which spent that last 8 episodes of the last season servicing fans by bringing back old characters & giving them happy endings/superpowers would never bring back the exact same characters in a rosier setting after good triumped?
Come on man, 1 2 3 4 _ what comes next?
Do you REALLY need the 5?

>>92851285
Butterfly effect. You're still making up headcanon and justifying a cliffhanger ending.

>>92851317
>cliffhanger
Anon that is exactly how they'd handle it (you know it, I know it, everyone that actually gives it a THINK knows it) and they just spared us 2 minutes of agonizingly redundant fanservice by sticking with their artsy bullshit instead.

Hm, would have fit as an epilogue. But then they would have lost the meme-tree ending pic.

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>>92820006
lol

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>>92851317
I bet you think Sopranos ended on a cliffhanger also

>>92849829
wow nice headcanon

>>92851549
It's the same principle. What happens to the future timeline is left ambiguous.

>>92851866
That's not a cliffhanger

>>92851881
It literally would be if we didn't get it from Genndy that this is the last season. All that's missing is the cliff.

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>>92851915
what?

>>92851934
we don't know
whether
the people in the future
were erased
or not

>>92825965
Wew, get the fuck out of here

>>92851965
it doesn't matter

>>92851996
are you a psychopath

>>92852034
no, you just didn't get it

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>>92852056

>>92851965
Of course they were.
You dumb?
But if/when they re-appear, it'll be in a better future.

>>92851965
THEY ALL FUCKING DIED BUT IT WAS BETTER THAN LIVING FOREVER UNDER THE LITERAL DEVIL IN A LITERAL HELL ON EARTH.

Even if they didn't die but were "reborn under different circumstances" they wouldn't BE the same people. Do you really need a scene of the fucking Scotsman living in modern Edinburgh as an accountant?

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>>92831935
>Shit like the butterfly effect is a household term and it's a part of audience expectations whenever time travel fuckery gets brought up.


99% OF shows that revolved around time travel ignore all the implications of Butterfly Effect and pick and choose whatever they want in the new future, usually with moat major characters still alive.


SHOW ME a cartoon where someone getting back to the past and avoiding a dystopia ended up killing someone other than the Vilain (and people directly created from the Vilain, like Ashi).

I challenge you.

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>>92852542
If they have to end up rewritten into nonexistence or into alternate versions of themselves, there were ways to make the audience accept the destruction of an entire timeline, or even celebrate it. For example, show an exchange like the one here >>92827663
Either a scene where Jack's allies want to take down Aku so badly that they accept the risks involved, or a scene that shows them with happier lives in a good future. Playing a little more with the whole thing could've improved the story a lot, and we wouldn't have to have these threads.

>>92852586
/co/-related but not a cartoon; Sonic comics have multiple times messed with reality-rewriting, which has resulted in characters turning into a different person or not existing anymore.

Here's a page where Sonic rewrites the world and replaces it with a different one. The characters are pictured dealing with it calmly and assuring that this is how things are meant to be. Their reactions make it easier for the reader to deal with this world's death. Besides, Sonic's returning into a world where alternate versions of his friends still continue to exist. Jack returned into the distant past and will never see his future friends again. He didn't even get to say goodbye, nor will he know how his friends would turn out in this new timeline. And the audience doesn't either. There's no closure.

>>92853261
>Playing a little more with the whole thing could've improved the story a lot

not really

>>92852542
>IT WAS BETTER THAN LIVING FOREVER UNDER THE LITERAL DEVIL IN A LITERAL HELL ON EARTH.
Nice headcanon

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>>92853261
>/co/-related but not a cartoon
I'm asking for a cartoon mate, as I said you couldn't even get an example of this happening on a cartoon.

All that you managed to get was a comic that most people barely talk about, while I can give you MULTIPLE examples of time travel picking and choosing what to do with butterfly effect, like JLU (at least 2 times), Jack Chan, Mystery Inc and so.

You are the one being a giant drama queen here, because your best case would be saying that you have no idea on what happened, instead of being a faggot screaming "b-but they were all erased!" When you doesn't have proof, and most shows (including Genndy'said own work) doesn't do this.

If anything, it's look like a personal issues of yours, because you got traumatised with a sonic comic.

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>>92853261
>sonic

>>92852586
>>92854299
Are you being intentionally stupid? What bearing do the events in other cartoons have on the events in Samurai Jack? The only effect they have on Samurai Jack is the way they COLOR AUDIENCE EXPECTATIONS

And it's the fucking writer's job to deal with those, especially when he has some shitty hamfisted ending in mind where the fate of the characters we were supposed to care about is left ambiguous in the last episode of the show.

Look at this shit you braindead fuck
>>92830187
>>92840888

We KNOW tons of characters were erased without Aku to set in motion the events that would bring them into existence. Logically, it is LIKELY the other characters won't exist either, and that's why people are justifiably pissed off about the ending. You're a dickless moron and you don't have an argument.

>"THE ENDING IS SHIT BECAUSE HE LEFT ALL HIS FRIENDS TO DIE WTF"

people somehow failed to notice that Aku was literally crushing people to death and raining spikes on them. It's not very far-fetched to imagine that the majority of people that fought Aku in the last episode are dead.

>>92854682
Please ignore any and all pastfags, they literally all have autism from sucking Gendys cock for too long

>>92854735
Well they're dead now that Jack cowardly dipped out in the final fucking battle.

How the fuck is anyone so surprised that he went back to the past. He literally says that he's got to get back, back to the past in the opening. It's the whole fucking theme song

>>92854735
>ashi creates the portal
>portal covers jack and ashi
>jack looks around confused at the destruction and his friends
>scotsman gives him an approving nod
>everythings continues the same

it literally would have taken 5 seconds to not only give jack agency but give the audience closure regarding the future

the ending is shit because it doesn't even make sense. going through the portal is not something jack would do because he never ever did that in similar situations, there are nonsensical unresolved time travel paradoxes, and no one knows what happened to the future. turn on your brain

>>92854682
Dude, you are aware that this is all your Headcanon right?

>>92854884
google headcanon so you can find the definition retard

>>92854682
>Logically,
>when talking about time travel

pls

>>92854865
no, that's dumb.

>muh metaphors
>muh Jack is worse than hitler
>not muh headcanon

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>Literally inventing headcanon just so you have an excuse to hate the show.

>>92855120
Which is why we should have gotten closure without plot device forced time portals so we would still be willing to accept handwave-y cartoon logic

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>>92854039
Keep in mind that Ashi vanished due to a time paradox. That means the people behind the show decided that they wanted to employ the nastier consequences of time travel for drama, instead of simply ignoring them. But the scene they wrote didn't have much impact because it felt like a mediocre ripoff of TTGL.

It would've been possible to write something more interesting and satisfying than the lazy ending we got. I've seen random /co/ shitposters coming up with a lot of better concepts. I don't personally like all the ones in this picture, but most of them at least display more effort than the show itself.

>>92854299
Shrek agreed to change his past in Shrek 4, unwittingly getting Fiona's parents killed and his own children never being born. Haruhi Suzumiya movie had the protagonist forced to pick between two alternate timelines, which meant erasing one of the timelines out of existence and rewriting his friends (as well as hurting one of them pretty badly). You mentioned JLU; that show had a pleasant future version of Vandal Savage fading into nonexistence after Superman changed the past. But that ending was satisfying because Savage was at peace with the idea of sacrificing himself for the world.

Butterfly effect has been done in a lot of works, but usually the heroes are given a happy ending, and the writers attempt to push away all the uncomfortable implications so that the audience can either ignore or forgive them. People are upset with SJ's handling of it because it's hard to ignore the fact that nobody knows what happened to the future characters.

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>>92855188
>just turn off your brain bro lol headcanon idk

>>92855202
dude, forced time portals are a main part of the plot since day 1. There's more to a story than plot.

>>92855223
>lazy ending we got.

hey, that's your opinion. I thought the ending was a great ep of SJ

>>92855202
>>92855223
Fucking thank you. Time travel was always going to be retarded but they didn't even try to tie things up and make you willing to overlook it

>>92855296
>There's more to a story than plot.
Exactly, and plot is all we got. The story is unresolved.

>>92855374
no sweetie

>>92855345
They did though. You'd understand if you had even a passing familiarity of Buddhism

>>92855374
How is it unresolved? Jack went back to the past, killed Aku and saved the world. It seems pretty definite to me. Sure, you could argue about what's going to happen to Jack next, but it's pretty clear he's a prince. His destiny is quite clear.
Although I've been thinking about writing a fan fic about it

>>92852542
>Do you really need a scene of the fucking Scotsman living in modern Edinburgh as an accountant?

You act as if that wouldn't be hilarious

>>92827475
kek

>>92854865
>going through the portal is not something jack would do because he never ever did that in similar situations

He never jumped in the portals because there was the imediate risk of people getting killed if he did. This wouldn't be the case in the final fight since everyone was dead or soon-to-be dead anyway.

>>92849718
She lived far longer than Nia ever did, I'm sure they smashed before she disappeared from existence.

>>92855754
>This wouldn't be the case in the final fight since everyone was dead or soon-to-be dead anyway.
nice headcanon

>>92855754
>imediate risk of people getting killed
>everyone was dead or soon-to-be dead
Are you even reading what you're posting?

>>92855842
To be fair, the only ones who survived that final Aku attack were the Spartans, the Scotsman daughters and the Scotsman himself. And we didn't even get to see the Spartans survive.

>>92855842
It's not headcanon, you moron, it literally happened in the episode. Aku was obliterating everyone effortlessly. It's not hard to assume that only the most battle-hardened ones there (scot's daughters, spartans) managed to survive.

>>92856890
>It's not hard to assume
nice headcanon

>>92827475

You know I just realized, with the whole immortal thing it would have been kinda shitty to leave Jack in the future after killing Aku.

I mean he'd outlive everyone he knows and wouldn't even have a purpose because despite being a prince I can't see him ever going god emperor of earth, and he never tried to leave the planet before.

>>92857885
Man, if you need everything ever explained to you or else it is regarded as headcanon you must only be able to enjoy entertainment for 3 year old.s

>>92817053

I re-watched the first 4 seasons with my gf before watching Season 5, we saw the finale last night.

I don't think S5 was perfect but my biggest complaints would actually be the change in artistic direction (I loved the old style and was excited to see that in a decent aspect ratio), though they did put together some cool scenes, especially early on when he's fighting the 7 daughters.

Didn't like the replacement voice actor for Aku, was iffy on the mix of lighthearted Aku evil and the "killing real people" stuff, wasn't crazy about Ashi, but I was beaming when they started playing Dean Martin at the end of episode 8 (8 I think?).

And the ending with all of his old allies showing up to save him was pretty much what I wanted, but it felt rushed, and the ending with Ashii didn't make a lot of sense. Plus I just wanted Jack to have his happy ending after all this time :(

>>92856890
That's not where my head was at, at all. I assumed that once he went back to the past that he undid the future that was Aku.

You could still argue that some of the characters wouldn't end up existing, might have been nice to see an after the credits scene of the Scotsman or something.

>>92843532
The fuck is Loud House?

>>92860279
A show on Nick that held on it's own against Spongebob

>>92860279
waifu bait

>>92827230
This. Apparently some anons do not know there some series that have much shittier and intolerable contents and ending. One particular manga ran for 13 years, but more than half of its content (aka, 6+ years) is disgustingly terrible, not to mention the ending is a complete disaster.

>>92859682
>It's not hard to assume that only the most battle-hardened ones there (scot's daughters, spartans) managed to survive.
Literally textbook headcanon. Make some more shit up why don't you

>>92860894
I'm sorry, did you see their corpses?

>>92860930
Seems like without Jack's time travelling intervention that they would all have been killed fairly easily, I mean none of them have any way of hurting him.

I sort of hoped the Scotsmans sword would have had an effect on him.

>>92860995
Of course they would; I'm not arguing that they'd all be dead. I'm just saying before Jack jumped in a few of them were probably alive.
Also, we never saw if it had an effect on him, but the Stone Samurai was magical in nature and was able of harming Aku even if it wasn't permanent, so I'm guessing the same applies to his sword.

>>92860894
I got one for you
>Ashi survives and tells jack she loves him
>Jack is no longer a virgin

>>92862612
nice headcanon

>>92860894
>Genndy isn't a hack

>>92863022
thats just your headcanon

>>92863022
Hacks can't manage consistency. The animation and pacing for S5 was pretty much on par with the older seasons, ergo Genndy is not a hack animation director.
Hack script writer? That's up for debate.

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You tell me, OP.
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>>92864568
have memes gone too far

>>92866300
It's all been down hill for awhile la

ITT /v/

>>92829755
Why would you say "now"?

Do you think at one point most people wanted him to stay cause man I remember when the comic book first got posted and a lot of people were disappointed that he didn't go back to the past, though more were disappointed they didn't depict the final battle.

>>92840064
Because it's okay to have characters like people that the audience doesn't